skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Not at all, it's an often used marketing technique, generally by an underdog (even if only a slight underdog) to try and pull in customers who would actually like their product better if they had tried it.

The most famous example would be The Pepsi Challenge [1], but it happens all the time, for example AMD have done it at a few events comparing an AMD machine to a similar spec/price Intel build.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepsi_Challenge
Dan, are you being cautious and making up those IP addresses, or
those actual IP addresses?

I ask since 1.0.0.0/8 is APNIC and 1.2.3.0/24 is the APNIC
"Debogon" project. For notes, a "bogon" is an supposedly
unroutable address, or more accurately, an address that you
shouldn't see in use.
Same here - ignoring that I could sometimes tell which one was Google and just looking at the returned links, Google won by 4 and a draw.
Ended up picking google 4-1. I'm somewhat of a bing fan in the sense that I find them good enough for most searches. So I was a bit surprised that the results ended up skewing in google's favor ... guess that kind of backfired for them :-P
Hopefully this will facilitate better placement and attachment of the c6 capacitor.
I can echo the same treatment with two different merchant account providers across three companies. Didn't matter if it was a $10k month or a $1MM month or if the company was new or old--it was a constant battle. In one case it was only my personal credit rating (which happened to be spotless) that saved my business.

Yes, think about that. A merchant account -- where they hold your company's money -- relies on your personal credit score.

Anecdata: I had two chargebacks in five years of web software sales. Both claims were buyers ripping me off. I provided signed FedEx receipts for boxed software shipments and IP addresses/dates/times when the customer registered the software and downloaded updates. I ate the full cost (plus investigation and chargeback fees) both times. (This is "cost of doing business" and not an opportunity for a blog post, IMHO.)

From the post: "And thank god I made that [five figure] withdrawal when I did, because yesterday came the second phone call, informing me that a reserve would indeed be placed on my account."

I believe this action is what actually triggered the issue. If he paid the costs of running his business out of his PayPal account and took consistent monthly paychecks, it would have been far less of a flag.

Sucks that you have to do it, and we software types are famously short-tempered when it comes to dealing with real-world bureaucratic nonsense, but sometimes a bit of careful planning and playing the game wins the race.
Every time I see a link comparing search engines, I try them with hope, but always go back to Google. My last search confirms this :

* Google https://www.google.com/search?q=insertObject+atIndex+zero+bu...
* http://www.bing.com/search?q=insertObject+atIndex+zero+bug&#...
* http://duckduckgo.com/?q=insertObject+atIndex+zero+bug
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The TSA would probably arrest you andyour collaborators for obstructing the law or inciting fear or something. Either way you wouldn't be able to operate for long before something happened.
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3/2 in favor of Google. I was surprised by how similar the results were, and by what I apparently considered important about search results.
Wow, I felt the exact opposite! Level 8 was really fun for a bunch of reasons. It seemed like a tricky, probabilistic timing thing (despite their many statements to the contrary!) until the eureka hit and you saw the deterministic way forward. Eureka moments like that are fantastic. It was an attack I had never read about or thought about, but which (despite being admittedly contrived) could plausibly exist in the wild. It required writing a real program (which none of the others did). And most importantly, it was awesome to see the numbers spin and lock into place, just like they do in the movies :)

Level 7 (which I really liked too!) was boring compared to that - either you knew about that specific hash attack or you didn't, and once you found out what it was meant to be, you just had to modify some stuff in a python repl to make it work.
In the UK initially but they had to scale out to Hong Kong for the international market (via Wong Electronics) as they were a little bit more successful than they expected. Nice to see it happening the other way round.
> Hopefully, they can decode it.

There is a fair amount of debate regarding whether or not this would actually be a good thing, for example Stephen Hawking doesn't think so: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8642558.stm
Google 4-1. No surprises here.
I tried very specific queries ( e.g. subdomain routing in webapp2 ), and its Google 5-0
I notice both you and drtse4 like the tool but only mention what it's advertised to do, and not anything specific about your experience using it over 'ssh -D'. How has using it changed how you would have used 'ssh -D' ?

I suppose the most practical purpose for sshuttle is for shell accounts on a box you don't own, if you need to do random transport-level stuff to remote hosts through an intermediary and you want to use a client on your local host. So basically NMap if your shell doesn't support it and you can't copy-and-run 3rd-party binaries. I'd be interested to see how well sshuttle performs under an intense NMap scan.
One annoying thing about Zurb, it overrides the default styling of forms!

I find that really annoying because sometimes you want to use something like formtastic, which works by add a class name on the form element, but won't work because zurb has overridden the default style.
Twitter bootstrap does not do this.

I love the grid layout on zurb. It stretches to fit the width for tablets and phones. With bootstrap, the stretching happens only on phones.

Good and bad on both frameworks.
5-0 in favor of Google for me. 3 of my queries had 5 words, one had 4, and one had 2. Bing is almost as good at solving the easy short ones, while Google can solve even the long queries.
4 for Google and a draw. Google is still way ahead using my mother language (which is not English).
I'm not making them up! It's what I see on the Chrome "status bar" (or whatever it's called now) and in the html.

1.2.3.8, 1.2.3.13, etc. I'm in a coffee shop at the moment, but when I get back I'll try and get a list of the IPs that are used. (The last digit is always quite small though.)
Google 4-1. Backfire
the 2-way layout reminds me when I wanted to do the same thing, and combine search result into one (of course removing dups). Ended up with making google gui into bing results of now defunct binngle.com (due to MS charging for their api access)
Out of control copyright bots are making a mockery of the DMCA
Eben told me BBC Micros were manufactured in Wales a lot at first.
New high-quality photos show how thin iPhone 5 is compared to iPhone 4S
oh cool, hadn't seen that. Hopefully the probe will keep going after its initial mission to pluto has concluded.
The problem is (at least with Vim), a installer/good default set of plugins and vimrc is VERY subjective.

Myself and 2 other guys from #vim on Freenode tried doing this a few years ago, but it wound up failing because we couldn't decide on that perfect set of stuff to put in it. Perhaps the idea would be more successful if there was only one developer to make decisions, but...
1. survey is organized by Microsoft, 2. I think the survey is skewed because typically when you go there you don't have anything specific in mind to search so you type one-word query (they even propose them!) and one-word queries are hard for google
So, five results at the top from StackOverflow... Why not just skip the search engine middle man and go straight to StackOverflow?
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The merchant. It's the merchant's business. The merchant should be the one taking the risk.
I did a comparison by actually searching the same phrases on google.com/ncr with Incognito. The actual Google results are much better than the Google results on this page.

Search for "Hunger Games" on Google returns the IMDB page as the first result, which is exactly what I want. But neither panes on the Bing's test has the IMDB page as the first result.
It was clever when Pepsi did it to try to let people know that they couldn't tell the difference between pepsi and coke.

Now? Obvious.
I remember a while back when Bing was shown pretty conclusively to be taking Google results.

So I wonder if this test is really "Google vs. Bing + Google".

EDIT: Source - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2165469
I would like to see "live" results to help corroborate their claim.
Valid point but there's nothing stopping you setting up your own VPN (either on a small VM from someone like Linode or, if you're paranoid enough, a cheap 1U server bought off ebay and placed in a colo facility).

For the single point of failure issue (which is also valid)... just setup two or more VPNs :) And, in an emergency, you can always fall back to the underlying connection.
Proper search engines are better at finding content than a site's own search feature.
The site breadcrumbs using ">" always give away Google unfortunately.
How do you enter/win that? I did a quick google and found some cursory information about it, but nothing about entering or applying.
Last time I checked, it looked like Bing was still using clicks on Google search results as a signal in Bing's rankings.
I wonder how much preference they had accumulated over the last 5 years and multiple pivots.
Don't trust them. Just rent a cheap VM instance and setup your own VPN.

OpenVPN is all you need and then you're good to go.
Ditto. The layout of the two's result pages are so different now, it's quite easy to tell them apart.
5-0 for Google. I tried mostly programming related queries as I find the differences most noticeable there. Especially when searching for specific APIs or objects, Bing tends to give you just the project homepage and some unrelated pages, while Google gives you the actual deep link.
The First 99%
"we produced a video that simulates what we will be able to deliver with OIS"

So I'm going to build a crappy car, demo it using a Ferrari engine and tell I was trying to simulate the engine feature in my car.
Doesn't sound like an apology to me.
3-1 in favour of google for me.

I suspect a lot of this may be down to how challenging the queries are that people put in. Bing's historically been great at generic searches, but I made a point of looking for more difficult stuff, where google has (for me) always been better.
I wouldn't be so sure of that with the currently absurd amount of roadworks on the M4 ;)
I selected one draw and then Google every other time. It was close for most searches but Google was slightly better. Google seems to be better at more detailed searches whereas Bing is better at searching for broader things (like they suggest 'wedding dress', 'chicken nuggets' etc.).
Microsoft- 2:1 Users Prefer Bing’s Search Results Over Google’s In Blind Test
In Europe, PayPal actually is incorporated as a bank, so all normal rules apply. Merchant accounts for digital goods are subject to a lot of risk!

Stripe et. al. are the credit unions of the card processing world -- they can offer more personalized service. But they also can't really scale and meet all demand, or handle the very largest accounts, without putting many PayPal-esque structures in place.
Good riddance, hacker news. This site sucks.
Sounds like you have never tried.

Buying bitcoins anonymously is very difficult due to money laundering laws. Spending them anonymously is not "simple" either.

Your best bet would be to mine them yourself and then pay over a public wifi with a throw-away laptop.

But really, cash in an envelope is less error-prone. Just don't leave your DNA-sample on it.
That's absolutely hilarious! They should have just stuck with their original brand, which wasn't all that terrible either!
2 Draws, 1 Google 2 Bings for me.
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Anyone else seeing different results on this vs. what Blekko's monte (e.g. http://blekko.com/ws/your+phrase+/monte) produces?
Misleading title. Flamebait.

Mozilla devs have limited resources and they decided to tackle developing a better DOM before adding new auxiliary features. How is this wrong?

The main comment says:

«On the DOM side, there is a major refactoring of the DOM based on WebIDL (bug 580070) going on. This will yield better conformance and I'm confident DOM performance, likely security too I would guess.

Meanwhile, I agree, no new feature (like this bug) is being worked on. That's unfortunate, but it's a matter of priority.»

They think that their efforts are better spent on DOM performance rather than form sliders. We argue about that, but one has to accept that, in presence of limited resources, one has to prioritise something.
"Arduino dialler" is probably more appropriate. The cell phone is entirely off the Arduino.
Why would a merchant account provider have your personal social security number/be doing credit checks? Assuming its an incorporated C corp?
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Try quoting that line while they are beating and arresting you for not allowing them to search your car within 100 miles of a border:

http://www.aclu.org/national-security_technology-and-liberty...

Some states are considered to lie completely within a "constitution-free zone": Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Vermont.
Both a Das Keyboard with cherry blues for work, and a Rosewill with cherry reds for play.
You can parallelize this operation with xargs simply by adding a -P. You could add a & to your convert here but that would run all the jobs at the same time. xargs allows you to only run n at a time. That would be a lot harder to replicate in bash.
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I did all JavaScript searches and knew which were Bing. Do a search for: array.prototype.filter. The Google result gives you MDN, the Bing result gives you MSDN.
BTW it is best to use Incognito mode.

In my case Bing won 1 out 5 of the rounds. I used searches I had done recently that hadn't given satisfactory results on Google.

In any event Microsoft now at least has searches it can work with and improve. I can't imagine any other way they could get Google users to provide search data.
How does msft have access to google algo click data?
> Udacity, the best online digital university on a mission to democratize education.

I tend to agree with that statement but wanted to point out that http://saylor.org is making some significant strides in the online education field and is looking to offer full university level curriculum for several different majors. Saylor is definitely worth checking them out if your into the whole open education movement.
Google, 4 to 1.

Now, all of my searches were technical; I plan to try again later with more general, "normal people" searches. Bing may do better there.

Also, good results from even google searches have become harder to come by in the last year or so. I have to work harder at my search terms. I don't know if that's Sturgeon's Law at work, or if there's room for a search engine to improve enough to become better than google.

Perhaps targeted search engines are the answer (i.e. engines's who have both their search and crawler algorithms tuned for a specific target audience) are the answer?
Google 4, Draw 1, Bing 0.

Why? Because I tested it with fairly specific queries. A while ago I tried to switch to Bing because after testing it with a few general searches, it seemed just as good. However, when I switched and started searching for compiler errors, etc - I soon switched back because the results were just nowhere near as good.

Here's what I searched for:

bash: !": event not found error
gtk calendar tutorial
python import gtk error
seed funding in uk

Something to remember by the way is that Google has spent a lot of time and effort on their "bubble", that is, search results personalisation (http://dontbubble.us) and it is a big part of what makes their results so great. That influence won't be present in this test.
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I may be wrong but it was my understanding that a VPN will slow down your internet connection. Is this not true anymore? For those that use a VPN do you keep it connected on your own secured wifi connection the entire day while working with no added lag?

I remember using hotspotshield and torproject.org in the past but they always made things so slow it wasn't worth using. Maybe those were just the free/cheap services.
Much easier to use blekko's 3-engine monte, since it strips formatting that might give away the source engine. Just add /monte at the end of a query:

http://blekko.com/ws/hunger+games+/monte
And as a result of being a Luxembourg bank

>It is therefore not possible for UK customers to obtain legal redress from the company in the English, Scottish, or Northern Irish Courts.

So he's not getting his £600 back through the courts.
This is possibly the most absurd thing I've ever read.

The complaints about security theater are loud and frequent, but aside from bitching and moaning, what can be done?
I found exactly the same thing. Searching in English gave me mostly draws. Searching in Swedish and Google crushed Bing at least 4-1 every time.
they both suck -- for 3 out 5 queries I tried they both return spammy junk or non-helpful shopping links
Optimizing for leverage
Google always worked for me whatever the result is. Their default queries are just ridiculous and cherry-picked.
The UK's attitude to computer education needs a reboot
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Congratulations on your success! I wouldn't sell RollRover short. I don't have an iPhone to try it, but from the video trailer it looks like a fun and well-made game.
IE and Windows, I believe.
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It is a sense of being able feed their kids via sustainable work more than "monetization of culture".
Speaking of the TSA, I am not sure how this didn't make national news:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politica...

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/331811

HN completely bans his name being mentioned in topic titles apparently.
Android phones are the same way. The android system runs on a separate processor from all of the cell stuff. They communicate over a bus.
Matt - do Google's terms of use allow users to send the results page clickstream to Microsoft? If not, aren't there legal avenues you could pursue?
Does it matter? The artist and label legally agreed to a contact between the two parties. Sure you don't like it and think that the label is making more money than you think it should, but the artist legally allowed that price difference to happen.
I've noticed, 1st result displayed on their search didn't match mine. Nice try, M$
Yes, it's actually a White House talking point this week: "Since February 2010, the U.S. manufacturing sector has added roughly 500,000 jobs, the fastest pace of job growth in the sector since 1995".
I'm the obvious exception who's skewing the average but Bing won 4-1. I found their color palette much easier on my eyes, and when half the results were "draw," I sided with Bing, simply because I would prefer the presentation of their results.
picked google
Well it is a deliberate choice, calling it a feature may still be a stretch.
The log becomes unreadable because if you have many Rails instances (Like 25 unicorn workers in my case) writing unbuffered in one log file it becomes a holy mess. This is happening only in production because you usually don't have multiple workers in development and you also don't have hundreds of requests per second.
Nothing, and that's fine. America has been voting itself into a police state for at least the last 30 years, arguably even since the start of the Cold War. Enjoy it, you've have earned it.
Here's the video (Nokia N97 ad with commentary): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJpEuMidcSU&feature=youtu...
In 20 years the TSA will be a fond memory.
You might get more schadenfreude that way, but it'd be much more effective to spend that money on lobbyists and organization that worked on changing the law.
Because merchant banks require them. Anyone can create any number of C corporations at any time. Merchant accounts are one of several business services that young companies can't set typically set up without somehow binding the contract to the business owners themselves.
I got a draw and then a 5-0 for Google. A couple of result for Bing were weird, like displaying "Seattle" when I searched for "a" (the letter), NSFW images when I was searching for a novel ("accelerando"). Google knowledge graph it's just too much ahead ("age of mcgyver") and it has better results on maps and evaluating expressions.
I thought the TSA has no arrest powers... ?
Ok, so I found it amusing that they don't include Blekko, I mean we did make this into a fun game with our three card monte game with our /monte tag in search results :-) And I suppose it doesn't really serve their interests to 'lose' to a little guy either.

That said, its an interesting experiment. And at blekko.com we've been running for over a year [1].

What we've found is that there is a huge brand bias, which is to say that if you use some search engine as your primary search engine, you tend to think that is the best one regardless of whether its Blekko, Bing, or Google (or even DDG although DDG is more a search utility rather than a search engine as it doesn't have its own web index).

But 'quality' is also a very subjective thing as well. So if you search for highly SEO'd categories you will find the Blekko and Bing do better than Google mostly because there is a curated input (in Blekko's case it was from day one with it's from slashtags and in Bing's they started doing outsourced curation (putatively after seeing how effective it is in Blekko :-) in some topics with their 'editors' program [2]) At some point Google will realize what Bing and Blekko have which are that the 'indexing the web' problem became the 'filtering the web' problem when the signal to noise ratio started decreasing in about 2005, and that the only viable weapon at the moment for human on human spamming (this is where real humans are working for 5 cents a page to write web pages that draw hits) is human judgement.

If the Bing guys are reading (and I know you are) why not open up your challenge to the new kid on the block, we don't just do Blekko vs Google in our monte results :-)

[1] http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/21/be-the-mark-in-blekkos-3-en...

[2] http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/search/archive/20...
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If you're a relatively small or young company, the merchant account providers often demand that a principal signs a piercing agreement and personally guarantees the account.

For the first few years I was in business my corporate credit lines were effectively personal credit lines that happened to have my company name on them.
Yeah..... never trust Nokia after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJpEuMidcSU]

They don't grasp how much they hurt themselves with crap like that. If your product isn't good enough to be used in the commercial, then don't sell it.
Given the results of this group (I was 3 for google, 2 draw), I wonder if Google simply has a stronger technical bias than Bing.
I don't know. Going in the out door in any major airport is a huge expense. Talking someone into doing that for a few hundred dollars does not seem that difficult, or traceable.