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This is a political statement based on speculation, not a scientific breakthrough based on evidence. And what it's really about is animal rights (and perhaps grant money for 'consciousness' research). Scientific and philosophical footwork are entirely lacking here, and the body is a random committee with no special authority to declare anything.

Among the weird suggestions of this document are that birds show a "parallel evolution of consciousness," implying that our common ancestors (ancient amniotes, lizardy things) were not conscious; also that whole classes of amniotes are not conscious. The idea that reptiles and possibly certain kinds of mammals are unconscious automata, while we and birds are conscious, is at least worth raising an eyebrow over.
Ok, then why did the OP only show HTTP requests as the captured output? If he's capturing something else, shouldn't he show that?
Thanks much for the link
Agreed. To my mind, this is one of the things that makes it so hard to REALLY achieve artificial intelligence - we don't even know exactly what we're supposed to be creating. It seems to me that CS types who are actually working on AI (as opposed to sophisticated machine learning) are going to need some help from philosophers to even fully define the problem.
HN is an interesting subculture, but most Americans would like to Assange in US prison, trying to explain to Red Rope and Benteye why he should keep his tennis shoes.
The market is concluding FB is not likely $1 trillion company. The Q is order of magnitude for FB $TEV.

A. $1000B ? No...
B. $100B? Maybe
C. $10B? Possible

I think Theil is obvi not betting on $1T.

Thus, after 8 yrs, time to go.

At ranges between B and C, holding a large position in a public stock that is exhibiting true volatility (ie, something other than upward drift), is not likely to please his LP investors.

Nor, similarly would it be advised for his own holdings.

Reading more into the tea-leaves (ie, operationally) might be fun, but I'm not sure its adding explanatory power to what we are seeing here.
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Crazy that Facebook has an order of magnitude more Page Views as anyone else.
Doubtless they'll next prove that rudeness is also a preventative, hence the low incidence of Parkinson's in Israel.
According to your realization, let us assume that mosses - or even stones - or your fingers - have consciousnesses. We can't prove otherwise. So what follows, what kind of respect does a moss or a stone or your finger demand? If you question what makes a person happy, how do you hope to know what makes a stone or a moss happy?
Speculations on the next "Age"
Speculatively, what new "Age" will replace the "Space Age", and how long will it take for us to converge on an answer?

I've heard about the "Information Age" of smart devices and products, and the "Biotech Age" which with new "wetware" i.e. biomolecular technology, and the "Nanotech Age" of miniaturized space-age machines. If you subscribe to any of these ideas (or a combination thereof), in your mind has this transition occurred already, or will it happen soon, and if so when? Or, what are some other possibilities?

I'm curious to survey HN readers and see what they think!
I think the message is that there are certain strata that you should be VERY careful and thoughtful about letting people into. I don't think that is the entry level, but at higher levels of an organization, incompetence can be malicious in a sense.
That is not enough. Old documentation MUST STAY ONLINE.

How can that possibly be not obvious?
That's not exactly official. If you need a signed deceleration then that's very good proof that you have no actual science to back you up.
As 'CS type' actually working on ML, I disagree. I'd rather prefer some help from hardware guys, that would allow me to run a neuro network with 100 billion neurons really really fast.
> On July 7 the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness was signed by a group of recognized authorities (cognitive neuroscientists, neuropharmacologiests, neurophysiologists, neuroanatomist and computational neuroscientists).

This, to me, significantly cheapens the message. Imagine a group of recognized "authorities" in mathematics coming together to sign the proof of an important theorem in an attempt to further bolster its truth. It almost makes me doubt the truth (or importance) of this statement.
Hey guys, I did something similar but based off the styles of the jQuery UI slider plugin. I found while these types of standalone plugins looked okay, they were frustrating to customise or even to make them look PERFECT.

Check it out here: http://taitems.github.com/UX-Lab/ToggleSwitch/index.html

I also investigated achieving something similar using only CSS base on a :checkbox, but the browser support, even in "modern" browsers was poor:
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Thoughts and hacks on the above, here: http://taitems.tumblr.com/post/23099016111/css3-input-stylin...
It sounds wonderful! When can I get a cup :-)
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I am just starting out and there are a lot of improvements to make. I would appreciate any (constructive) feedback. I moonlight to write this and am working on building a userbase now. As you can tell, I am not much of a designer but I hope it's enough to get by.
To be fair, I think drawing is an exceptionally good example of a learnable skill. Is the same true of music, though? If someone has trouble hearing and distinguishing intervals, can that person learn music? What about ballet, which pushes physicality just about as far as it can go?
Does the right click, paste works on paypal?
I was thinking about this quite a few times: doesn't it mean that all this OAuth things are broken from the start, since once you give the binary to the people, the could just get the secret out and reuse it another way?

The TOS of all these APIs all say that "you have to keep your Secret secret, or else!", but fundamentally there's no way to really do that, is there?
I tested this on the with the twitter api. This key was already leaked in 2010 at https://github.com/mitsuhiko/logbook/blob/master/twitter-sec.... So I will just post it here. https://twitter.com/armooo/status/237729837157060609 take a look at the name of the client.

>>> key = 'Bcs59EFbbsdF6Sl9Ng71smgStWEGwXXKSjYvPVt7qys'
>>> oauth_consumer_key = '3nVuSoBZnx6U4vzUxf5w'
>>> import tweepy
>>> auth = tweepy.OAuthHandler(oauth_consumer_key, key)
>>> auth.get_xauth_access_token('armooo', <password>)
<tweepy.oauth.OAuthToken object at 0x110985810>
>>> api = tweepy.API(auth)
>>> api.update_status('This is an update %s:%s' % (oauth_consumer_key, key))
<tweepy.models.Status object at 0x110985c90>
Oh, agreed. It's just a shame to see the whole framework judged by the crappy WebForms implementations you see out there.
Please make it available online, or at least someone should make it available online.
It shouldn't. Mathematics is lucky in that it's an entirely logical field where things can be absolutely proven. Not even Physics has that advantage. Psychology is a discipline full of minefields and gotchas - experience is very important here.
+1 on left hand navigation being a bad idea. I now see 20% less information on the screen as I try to quickly find something.
If your a MFG ..go for it...if not be very careful, I am aware of more than one occassion when the big A will cut out the middle man if they have a hot seller.
Apple does this, too. Not just on password change forms, but on login forms. Drives me nuts, as I use a password manager and my passwords are 24 characters of garbage.

Edit: Apparently I can't reply to the next comment, but keepassx also has the feature that passwords are cleared from the clipboard after 30 seconds.
The first bubble was characterized by massive speculation in public tech stocks completely detached from fundamentals.

Facebook, Groupon, and Zynga getting kicked in the nuts on the public market is the opposite of that.
Or, as I once read somewhere,

"Omit needless words."
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T-Mobile also capitalized my password on me, once. It was fine for a couple years and then one day it stopped working. I got the site to text it to me (why do they even have it in plain text?) and all the letters had been capitalized somehow. (Previously was mixed-case.)
Maybe they need some of the TSA budget, or hopefully all of it.

I think however they are not referring to electronic storage but probably reams of physical documentation.
Facebook et. al. are generating healthy revenues and profits. That was not the case in first dot com bubble. During first dot com bubble going public was just fashionable. Now it's very very hard to get company to an IPO.
Wasn't slicehost used as part of that google gmail hack thing a while back (in 2009 or something)? Or was that linode? I can't remember.
Clearly, having your password on the clipboard is a security issue. Storing your password in plain text, however, isn't.

Gotta love half-assed security measures. :)
True, but don't forget that you still get charged for usage by AWS.
Andrew, why do you call there is a bubble? From what I know, it's still very hard to raise seed money. Last week, founder of Launchbit posted her seed round on her blog (and it made it to HN front page), it didn't seem easy at all.

You are the man in the investor's arena, so I'm curious to know what has become easier (in obtaining seed funding) compared to say 5 years back.
Yeah, that makes sense or have it back in to founder's original ownership percentage. But that can also be confusing.

For those people out there who don't build financial models, making this "model" in a user friendly way is really, really challenging and you did a really nice job on it. My UX would have been terrible in comparison.

One Note: I didn't notice the pre and post buttons at the bottom because the text was hard to read on internet explorer on my office computer. It looks like the text was selected on a super high res monitor (like a nice mac) because on a "normal" office PC it is pretty rough.

Again, nice job on this.
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Good point, I am not sure why the OP did not show the key.
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That's... hilariously bad. Doesn't tell good things about their code review processes (as in: wtf is a code riiviiu???111!!).
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The gist of the article is sites ought to be using BCrypt for hashing passwords and users should be using password manager apps for storing strong passwords (not "password123").
Yeah, I saw that too.

I would never, ever describe James Gosling as a bozo, but he doesn't make my top 50 list of language designers and researchers. Java started with a laudable goal to improve upon C, but they didn't take enough risks at the start.
to expound on that, A people are not usually afraid of competition or a challenge.. often welcome working with people smarter, more talented or productive than themselves.

B people are more interested in protecting what they have, and to keep what you have, you may be able to out perform a C player, this the interst in hiring C players.

honestly, I think everyone is self conscious, or a little afraid from time to time, and that is OK, you just need to be able to get past it, have a little Faith in your abilities, work hard and don't expect raises, praise or titles (which ever your favorite flavor of sucess us) until you work hard and accomplish something.
I am positive he is doing diversification but not with facebook as part of his portfolio; as he sold pretty much all of his facebook stock. So once again. Facebook insider chooses to sell most of his stock prior to IPO, and prior to first quarter results. Very highlightable..
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Nice hand-waving dismissal. You clearly haven't been tracking recent scientific research in the area - corvids and parrots have been shown to have these responses for quite some time now. The rest of the stuff in the declaration is humdrum stuff that has been accepted for decades.

Yes, it may be political, but that's most likely because the field doesn't have any layman-recognisable heavyweights like CERN to say "professional opinion on the matter says -foo-".

The idea that reptiles and possibly certain kinds of mammals are unconscious automata

This is why I think the term 'consciousness' has a problem with conflation, because it leads to responses like this. Just because an entity does not have the 'consciousness' they are talking about does not make then an 'unconscious automata'. You're mixing terms from different contexts.
That's actually how Stack Overflow feels at times.
I remember how adults used to dumb things down for me or simply ignore me on matters they thought "a kid wouldn't understand", that's why I have a simple policy when talking with children/teenagers: treat them as if they're at the same level as me intelligence-wise.

Sadly, so far in my experience, most children are pretty dumb, for lack of a better word :-). That's why people underestimate them by default, never giving a chance to those who are indeed just as smart as many adults...
If it's your long term dream of fully replicating humans, it would be helpful to read Kant and similar philosophers to have a clear understanding of what consciousness is.

If it's not and the goal is just replicating and accelerating certain cognitive abilities, then it might not be super helpful and possibly disheartening (disheartening because of how much we lack full understanding of consciousness due to limitations of only being able to understand it via our own consciousness).
It does "stay online". Why must it also be hosted for you? When you download Bootstrap, you get all the docs in a folder. Open the index in your browser. All the old versions are tagged on GitHub and can be downloaded forever.
This is AOL Instant Messenger all over again: a closed source client with a secret (proprietary protocol) that is blessed, and vague threats of legal action against unauthorized clients. Except in this case, Twitter's probably more serious about the whole thing.

Which is ridiculous, this being Twitter and all...
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You could think of it in terms of minimal states, sunshine and moisture might make moss happy. But happy for moss is only a very mossy kind of happyness and so is just a fairly simple form of cellular "Woo!" and not a lot else.
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Megabus isn't blocking traffic, their Wi-Fi is cellular-based and being shared with everyone else on the bus. Therefore; slow and crappy.
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Throw all the hardware you want at it. Without philosophy you have no way to answer the question: what does it mean? Do you think you can just simulate 100 billion neurons and then ask the computer?
"you’ll earn the job-hopper label"

What? In the year 2012? I assume this is being written about the USA? His comment seems to come straight out of the 1980s. I remember my parents telling me stuff like this when I was a kid. But what is the actual reality in 2012? Many companies are afraid to hire and ask that people work some sort of trial period. If you do programming, most companies in New York will offer you a 90 day contract, and see if you work out. If you want to get into editorial work, a lot of magazines are insisting that you work an internship first.

The unwillingness of companies to commit to people means it is only fair if people are unwilling to commit to companies.

Besides all that, during the last 12 years I have not worked anywhere continuously for more than 18 months. I'm still flooded with offers. I suppose working for small, new firms is different than working from large ones, but I've worked for some large ones as well.

I do not doubt that there are still some large, conservative organizations in the USA that still are worried about "job hoppers" but clearly the era where this was a predominate concern is now several decades in the past.
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I say old chap, what audaciousness! Why the nerve of scientists, to claim that not only can they definitively say what gravity is, but that they can prove something has it is astonishing.

If you disagree with them, state your case. Mere outrage is not a valid argument.
your comment was probably in jest, but honestly, hiring is really really hard. no matter how hard you try to screen, test, and filter candidates, applicants and recruits, you never know for sure what performance you are going to get, or how this performance will change over time. the absolute hardest is personal fit within a team (back to a players like a players), but if you have high performers competing instead of working together you get that herding cats syndrome.

where is that old superbowl commercial of herding cats.
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Bootstrap has been an invaluable asset for building our MVP. I'm glad we got rid of the top bar, and very few people actually think we use bootstrap. But it affords us wonderful defaults for tables, buttons, menus, modals etc.

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He makes a TON of great distinctions between roles (marketing, sales, product).
This used to annoy me (especially when people created events in place of ads) but it's mostly solved now with the ability to promote your posts. That's going to work way better than an ad that your friends are used to ignoring.
If you run an openwrt/dd-wrt firmware on your home router you can bounce of it too. Just configure ssh access on it and you have pretty much the same thing.
I wonder if Shift+Insert works... (is that only a Linux thing?)

Or Rt-Click -> Paste.
The only thing you can do (and I'm speaking as someone who's held the belief that all matter is experiential in nature for years) is act to minimize the harm you do to the world around you, and with respect and thanks when you must do harm. I routinely thank the food I eat for having given its life that mine might continue, and hope that it had as "happy" (for its particular value of "happy") a life as it could before it ended up on my plate. To that end, I only buy free-range chicken products (meat, eggs, &c), grass-fed grazing animals, wild-caught fish, and so-on, to the extent I possibly can.

As for what would make a moss "happy", I guess it would be to be a moss. Since I can't begin to know what it's like to be a moss, I can only draw parallels with my experience, and that's what leaps most readily to mind. What makes me happiest as a human is to express my individual humanity most fully, so for a moss, it would be being the mossiest moss it can be.

It's somewhat trite, and rather more tautological, but it's all I've got.
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> what does it mean?

Assuming that it means something to begin with...
I think you should consider your own example more closely. "Search" is not just Google, it would be all search engines (good luck finding that old email). Similarly, removing social would not just remove Facebook, it would also remove hacker news (certainly a social website) and all the other forums you frequent.

Social websites, widely, are websites that allow users to connect to each other. Even 4chan is social. Without search, we couldn't find anything on the web, but without social we couldn't talk to anyone. I don't know which is worse, but they would both be enormous losses.
The need for consensus and authority probably stems from the need to settle on a definition of the word "consciousness". Determining whether or not animals meet the criteria was probably the easy part.
To say nothing about right click - paste... unless they're doing the 1999 thing and blocking right click too (and if they are, hopefully it's with a 1999-tastic alert("Right click not allowed!");).
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We must have very different definitions of innovation, or even success. So you're saying the Windows Phone and Metro isn't at all innovative? How do you figure?
I wrote about this issue and ways to overcome it a little while back (with pictures!): http://thomaspark.me/2011/10/making-menus-escapable/
Based on what I read in the Facebook Effect he did sell ads, and wanted to sell more but advertising wasn't a focus in 2004-6. As a marketing person myself, I have a soft spot for him and do always wonder why he is made the villain in the Facebook story. Anyone know?
At that point, "conscious" means nothing more than "exists", and we already have a good word for that.

I do think we should give animals far more credit than we do. Personality seems like it would be heavily related to and influenced by/influences consciousness, and most animals express personality to some degree.
Sorry, I edited my post to add the right-click thing as you were creating yours...
You can clone the repo, check out that branch, and open the docs in your browser locally. That's even better, since now you don't even need a network connection to access it.
I read of a bank in New Zealand doing this. Perhaps it's a trial? http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/bank-app-allows-payments-fac...