skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I don't know that I agree with this. The US is too large a market to ignore, and this is effectively raising the profit margin for local production. Foreign companies will either move some portion of manufacturing to the US (for the domestic market), or cede the market completely, and I don't know that they're prepared to do that (well, maybe Chinese ones are). Factories have a long lead time, so even if this is abolished at the end of his term, they'll be locked in with sunk capital costs. The main reasons not to do this are a) abandoning the market, as mentioned, or b) you think you can hold out long enough until the political landscape changes.

If the people aren't there, wages will rise until they show up. Most labor shortages aren't an actual shortage of labor, unless you genuinely can't produce that skillset domestically, or your labor market is so tight that no one is unemployed; rather, they're a shortage of wages. Pay enough, and someone will do the job. This is especially true for low-skilled work. There is not, and never will be, a shortage of cleaners, for example, because anyone can do it, so as long as there are unemployed people and the wages are good enough, someone will do the work.

And even if these jobs aren't in running these factories, they've still got to be built. Money is a powerful motivator, so I have no doubt they will. Companies will bleed because of this, but there are clear benefits for the US working class even if they're paying more. The gamble is obviously that the benefits outweigh the negatives of higher prices overall. Modern economics says no, but modern economics also believes in service-based economies, and that countries should only produce what they're good at, which, eventually, becomes a repudiation of the nation state. No country wants to buy bullets from an enemy, even if they're cheaper, and the web of infrastructure and industry necessary to maintain a defense industry mandates that at some point, you abandon the theory. Which is to say: I don't know, but I'm also skeptical that economists do.
yes thats one way of looking at it!
Just shipping goods through the UK does not make them UK-origin. They have to have a "substantial transformation".
The US economy was not strong in 2024. Cost of living was literally the most important election issue, and it is what decided the election undoubtedly.

It's partially because elites said 'the economy is great! look at my stocks!' while consumer goods had increased in price by 100% or more in only 4 years.
> milk quotas (Canada)

You mean the milk quota on imports that (a) trump negotiated and (b) the us has never hit?
It's natural to internalise the groups we belong to. In other words they become me. Or my identity is formed by the group.

When social scientists say something is socially constructed that's approaching this.

It's hard to see oneself apart from the group one belongs to. In fact to separate oneself causes real pain. In the article it says that people don't want to look outside their tribe; I would say that people shouldn't even think about looking outside as it will cause trauma. It would literally cause psychological identity wounds.

One aspect of politics is this pain avoidance.
> This makes no sense. You can literally register to vote at the DMV.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/19/john-olive...

> driver's license

Republicans are trying to make it so that the vast majority of drivers' licenses do not work either. You may have to get a new one, with passport-level paperwork.
Whilst safer in the short term, 20-rep machine sets are not a great way to build muscle. Perhaps something in the middle like a smith machine is best.
the most annoying thing about new laptops is how difficult is to find replacement batteries that can be trusted and work well. The battery situation is a downgrade compared to the previous pluggable ones.
I have an ASUS laptop that is borderline unusable in three years, the only saving grace is the RTX 3060 which I use for gaming and occasionally ollama.
> What amazes me is the timing: the midterms will hit while the bottom is still chugging along.

I think Trump is getting unpopular actions out of the way quickly, perhaps planning to announce an income tax reduction later to save the midterm elections.
I know I'm just talking to myself at this point, but I _finally_ get the meaning of the linked article title.

The netlify app is a fork, like a code fork, of the original document. Which is to say, they have taken the original work, transcribed it to a digital format, and will now evolve it.

I don't know if that just went way over my head or if it was not clearly communicated, but there you have it.
I spent the past 30 minutes calculating this all manually using the sources listed below:

The practical takeaway is that the average household will spend $3,488.27 more as a result of the tariffs. Clothes, furniture, toys will be (mean) 26.9% more expensive, electronics will be 24.4% more expensive, tires and jewelry 16.2% and 17.1% more expensive, respectively.

If this is more acceptable to you, please voice your approval.

[0]: https://wits.worldbank.org
[1]: https://dataweb.usitc.gov
[2]: http://atlas.hks.harvard.edu
It used to require a 3rd party plugin, but now KEPUB support is built in.
> pretending the Americans can

Pretending?

Dude, there are super public and well covered cases were the US did not only that but even worse, i.e. MEGAs illegal CEO abduction from their home soil in the 2010s for a particularly egregious example
I discuss politics with my communist friend, as an anarcho-capitalist. It never leads to a fight.

I think curiosity and a desire to learn goes a long way.
So my pessimism they can't "heal" this in time is the weak bit, if there are multiple levers they can tweak leading into the midterms to say "it's morning in america"

I say pessimism but in case it's not clear I'd prefer a democrat victory, both in the immediate past and in the coming midterms.
I doubt anything will come from this, granted how much he hyped Comma and where its at now.

Namely, the fact that this is still on the website:

> How is tinygrad faster than PyTorch?
For most use cases it isn't yet, but it will be

Despite being in development for so long is kinda telling. Like at least prove that you can make it work on CUDA as well as Pytorch.

Otherwise its just an personal project based on your ideology, and then when other companies don't play along with what you think is right, you get to blame their culture because you can never be wrong.
I dont get it. VAT is end customer tax applied exactly once. The rebates exist so importers, suppliers, resellers, shops dont pay VAT multiple times. This applies to every product local or imported.

With special case of digital goods this for a looong time meant that software sold from outside EU over internet was around 20% (VAT) cheaper because VAT was ignored by the companies. That’s quite a big advantage especially for US. And a reason why EU wanted VAT to be applied equally. Many companies still ignore it but it’s illegal now.
If we could manage the country using HN experts, we'd be incredibly prosperous. People here know so much more than the actual professionals in the government.

Only a few people pointed out the obvious. Trump aims to bring everyone to table to renegotiate global commerce. Every country's economic strategy today is to have positive trade with the US and that is unsustainable.

A risky tactic, but refreshing after decades of the old tired policies that brought us the collapse of parts of US manufacturing and so much pain during COVID due to a complete dependence on foreign suppliers for... Well, everything.

I don't know if this will work. But I know what we had before wasn't working. We'll see.
Most people are friends with people like themselves?

The selection bias of extrapolating an entire country (not to mention one as large and diverse as usa) by using your friend group should be very obvious.
Doesn't Europe and Japan have dollar swap lines with US? So ultimately it is US buying its own bonds through Japan to create an illusion that there exists enough external demand.
Constraints forces creativity. Some well chosen constraints are aesthetics rules that helps you land pleasing results. Poetry has a long history on that matter.

Another example of constrained creativity is early to mid nineties electronic music.
>The United States will be an autarchy, similar to how LaTam was in the 70's, when tried this exact idea. The tariffs being as high instantly, will impact the economy, later, the country will probably grow, which is what they expect, but this is not a productive grow. Because your new factories now are not competing with external products, so your productivity go down, this means real income will also go down.

If what you say is true, tarrifs should not exist in any country. And yet, most countries are using tarrifs.

What if a particular country is using dumping and sell at prices so low, it will kill a particular industry? And after they kill it, they start jacking prices at unseen levels and you will have to pay because you don't have a choice?
DMA complaint against Apple for not enabling Tuta email app as default on iOS
Stats show that Tech workers mostly vote blue, but as you move up the corporate ladder they slowly start to vote more red because their increasing wealth gradually makes them more and more in touch with the forgotten factory workers in the rust belt and angrier about the handful of trans athletes ruining women's sports.
It would help if people answer than downvote. Both these kind of questions and economic answers are getting buried.

My understanding so far based on buried comments is: other countries have tariffs on individual products they're historically good at manufacturing and they want to retain it. e.g. Milk in the Nordics, Cars in Japan and EU, Bikes in India, etc.

keyword: "selective to retain"

US is applying it across the board blindly, not to retain something that's existing, but what appears to be a blind hope of starting everything from scratch.

Buried comments say "strategy" is lacking, because these tariffs also apply on the very raw materials needed to start from scratch. The policy does not intelligently select and separate items by their current or future use to the US industry.

There is a prediction that this blunt hammer will not yield to a more productive situation, in couple of years it would only have to be quietly rolled back and strategic thinking would have to be re-applied.

The counter-counter argument is, maybe a real strategy is being worked upon, and this blunt hammer is just a leverage tool. But so far there are no concrete signals of strategic thinking, so it's currently perceived as "let's keep turning one knob after another". The lack of accompanying software updates, calculations, projections, personnel planning, etc all contribute to the notion that there is no strategy.

And at this point, it devolves into emotion and personality, which is better to stay away from.
> Framework laptops are wonderful, modern and (arguably?) cheaper to own in the long-term thanks to being able to replace components, particularly the entire mainboard as time progresses.

That is entirely false. Replacing the mainboard itself costs the same amount of money as a new laptop (an entire device). Their component prices are on their website under "Shop Parts", so you can verify that for yourself. I can buy a brand new Ryzen 7000 series laptop for the price of replacing a Ryzen 7000 series mainboard for a Framework laptop. Their laptops are also a lot more expensive than same spec branded ones from Asus, Lenovo and Dell that have better build quality and design.

I don't know where does this myth come from. The cost of replacing individual component is more expensive than replacing an entire device which people do not do because it needs repairing or often even upgrading, but because they're sick of the sight of it. You can't replace one component and extend the life of your PC another full cycle because you'll soon have to replace other components too. So when it comes to upgrading you have to consider the price of upgrading all available components to get the true cost as opposed to buying a new device.

Eventually, sooner rather than later, both RAM and SSD will come soldered on, so the only thing you will be able to replace is the battery and the screen. Both which 99% users never have to replace.

I am a Thinkpad user myself, have had them for both work and pleasure. Recently upgraded my old T14 for an X13 after reading and watching a lot of Framework reviews. It's just simply a gimmick, with a lot of quality issues, being sustained by having LTT name behind it.
Not if you include trade barriers like the DMA, a law which is used to milk US technology companies through vague court rulings with arbitrary fines.

The EU is the undisputed king of vague laws that are applied principally to competitors with arbitrary fines.

How do you implement GDPR? Don't ask us, but if you violate it watch out!

How do you comply with DMA? Don't ask us, but if you violate it watch out!
I'd vote for an LLM

And when the wrong LLM wins - don't blame me I voted for Llama (or Gemini or ChatGPT or Claude)
Intriguing concept! Combining TV with virtual world exploration opens up fascinating possibilities. The demo is impressive, but I'm curious about plans for content beyond scenic walks. Interactive experiences? Educational journeys? With the right partnerships and creative direction, this could become a compelling new medium for immersive storytelling.
The pot calling the kettle black...
They don’t even necessarily have positive benefits for manufacturers unless they somehow have a supply chain that exists only in the US all the way down. The automakers are against tariffs, for example.

This may kill more manufacturing than it creates.
If anyone needed any more evidence that they don't know what they're doing, what I find interesting is that the various French overseas territories that are part of the EU are tariffed at different rates than the rest of the EU (treating those as separate countries is traditional for any US company, which is sometimes a headache when you want to order something).

Réunion is at 37%, which isn't a problem because any company in Reunion could just use an address on mainland France, but there's more: Guadeloupe, Martinique and French Guiana are tariffed at 10%.

Does that make an easy loophole for any EU company wishing to export things to the US at a 10% tariff?

If these published rates actually going to be enforced this way, it seems like the whole EU has a very easy way to use the 10% rate.
VAT is not a "sneaky backdoor tax", it's imposed on all goods, regardless of where they're produced or imported from.

DMA (and similarly, GDPR) are enforced in EU countries just as much. It's just that the US tends to have more gigantic tech companies that do shady things with user data. Apparently the US doesn't care, but the EU actually does, and so it enforces its laws.
Most Trump supporters are pretty explicit that making people like me feel bad is their primary goal. There's a lot who just want Mass Deportations Now, and a handful of hard single-issue voters on something or another, but the cruelty is the most common thread. The Republican party is right now selling official merchandise (https://shop.gop.com/products/liberal-tears-mug) celebrating the fact that they've successfully upset me.

Why should I believe that they're disguising some secret, more sympathetic motivation? I spent a long time hoping that was the case, because I don't want to believe that so many people favor inflicting harm for its own sake, but there's a point where trying to understand someone in terms I find reasonable becomes falsely putting my own ideas in their mouth.
He didn’t understand the concept of the vibe. Here’s the best theory article I’ve read

https://www.glass-bead.org/article/a-theory-of-vibe/
So what's going to happen is:

- each country will impose equivalent taxes on the import of US goods - this is not only expected, but the norm under international trade law.
- with the rest of the world, still having free trade agreements between them, will start trading around the US, the US won't be able to compete

The value of the US$ will likely drop by the value of the tariffs. If everyone starts trading around the US we'll probably lose the US$ as a standard currency to trade in, maybe switching to yuan or euros, the US$ is buoyed by it being the currency everyone uses, that's going to drive it even lower.
Setting a microfibre cloth every time the laptop is bagged is much of a PITA to be honest. The lazier solution is a screen protector, albeit screen viewing angle or reflection come into consideration.

Personally I moved away from macs, so choosing a laptop with a touch screen was the best option: screens are tough enough, won't scratch under most circumstances, and can be wiped with anything short of diamond dust.
> The only people I have seen preaching moderation and apolitical discussion are those who voted for a particular candidate and either regret it and are too proud to admit it or are in peak cognitive dissonance.

Hello. I preach moderation and apolitical discussion. You were vague about what "particular candidate" you meant, but if you meant Trump I didn't vote for him. In fact I did not cast a vote for any presidential candidate this year because none of them was someone I wanted in office. So, you now have seen at least one person who does not match your description.

I preach moderation and apolitical discussion because the toxicity of political discussion is tearing our country in two. It is the single biggest threat our society faces today. If we cannot learn to resolve our differences (which starts with genuine attempts to reach each other even when others' actions seem reprehensible to us), this country will die. People do not, as a rule, choose evil. They are often mistaken about what is good, or disagree with each other on the best way to achieve good ends. But to round that off as "they are evil" is intellectually lazy and toxic to a civilized society.

> You cannot not discuss politics when the political scene that dictates your daily life is governed by objectively evil people and subjectively less evil people on the other side of the aisle.

If people were objectively evil, they would be considered evil by all. The fact that this has not happened is by itself proof that these people are not objectively evil, and that their evil is a matter of subjective views. If you wish to change others' views, the first step must be to recognize this so that you can formulate a plan of persuasion. Blasting people as "objectively evil" feels good, but accomplishes nothing.
When americans are angry, they tend to spread that frustration with a shovel on everyone.

My country as been hot by 29% tariffs.. I can't say what we did to upset americans, given that we do not compete with any american industry in any substantial way, bu we are bearing the wrath of the wounded american blue collar worker regardless.

I wonder what the net effect of tariffs will be in an year, americans are so used to cheap imports, especially all those shien/aliexpress/temu stuff.
The shamelessness with which some commenters openly display the exact aggressive tribal behavior discussed in the article should be studied.
Here in the EU, you'd generally just pay VAT of imports. And to be clear, we pay the same VAT on internal goods.

To make it convenient for consumers, large foreign platforms would automatically handle VAT at point of sale, reducing friction and thereby pushing more import.

Some specific things had tariffs - e.g., nuclear reactors, and chinese electric cars - but it was by no means the norm, and I don't think citizens liked this. The Chinese car tariff in particular feels like German automotive lobbying, stifling competition. Tesla, pre-DOGE, also showed that we would have an unsatiable hunger for import of competitive cars, it's just that an F150 isn't a competitive car in EU.

Now, because if the trade war, we end up with blanket retaliatory tariffs and a strong push for buying local products, killing imports, that just wasn't there before. US and China was already in a trade war, so I guess that was the current state of affairs there.
Why the video of you playing with it is not generated by the product?
"Things that might work for other purposes" != "An ID your State government is guaranteed to accept with the new rules they want to impose."
There is a low cunning at work though - Trump now runs the largest military in the world and the largest economy and if the only way he can impress other people is to use that power he will use it to try to beat them into submission. Chaos at this point is his friend as he attempts to stay in power as long as possible, so expect trade wars, war, domestic chaos and forcing others to show loyalty to him personally and pay him off as the biggest bully in the room. He sees this in very simple terms. So no there is not a high intelligence at work but he is not without agency and cunning. He has operated this way all his life due to inherited money and got away with it.

And damn the consequences for everyone else, including the people who elected him, he doesn’t consider that in his calculations, which is what makes them so confusing for those who think he is playing by normal rules of politics or business.
No, I mean the trade dispute that the Biden admin began. [1]

[1] https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-...
Well not the moon, but about 100 times back and forth to ISS
Average distance of ISS 370-460km, let's take 415km,
back and forth so 2x 415km= 830km
84 150km/830=~101
I am amazed at how many people are still imputing intelligence to Donald Trump. Him winning the presidency again after everything is less about him being some deep mastermind and more an exposure of the issues with America that have been there building for decades now.

The difference between Trump 1 and Trump 2 is that all the "establishment" R politicians who were "corrupt" or "deep state" but willing to work with him could at least steer the ship in the first term. Those people are gone and all who remain are ideologues and yes-men. Trying to find logic in the madness strikes me as someone going through the stages of grief near death, trying to find sense in a senseless, uncaring world. Take occam's razor, no one is steering the ship at the white house right now.
I suspect that dang has been barely surviving the (e-)moderation-technology debt (Arc notwithstanding). Good to have a second, antipodal, guy take on the burden!
China has many tariffs and non-tariffs restrictions. They are targeted as tariffs tend to be (well...).

For instance, tariffs on cars vary from 25% to 47%. It is quite the status symbol to drive an imported car.

Their policy has always been to develop their own car industry, so foreign manufacturers had to set up factories in the country but even that could not be fully foreign-owned and had to be through a joint-venture with a local manufacturer. I believe Tesla's Gigafactory in Shanghai (opened in 2019) was the first fully foreign-owned car factory they allowed.
You're blind to everything else they did, and your blindness is a problem for you.

https://archive.is/fgeUJ btw
DMA is. GDPR is. Both are applied principally against competitors using arbitrary fines invented by the EU. No compliance guidance is given, because the laws are inherently vague.
Because circles there also need operations over them (union, intersection or subtraction), it is a good example of low complexity art [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-complexity_art

My son is a big fan of bytebeat [2], which is also a low complexity art, but music.

[2] https://dollchan.net/bytebeat/#4AAAA+kUryC/X0CixswNhQyM1Q01N...
What is this "metrocard" of which you speak?

(It's going away at the end of this year.)