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Right now it just settles the charge to whatever credit card you have on file with Square.

Maybe eventually Square will let you link it to a bank account or prepaid account and they'll keep the spread.
This announcement makes me happy, for Square and Jack Dorsey as a young business leader. I love everything about the business idea, execution, design and tone of the overall strategy.

Noteworthy points from the press release

The partnership terms include:
- Customers will be able to use Pay with Square, Square’s payer application,
from participating company operated U.S. Starbucks stores later this fall, and
find nearby Starbucks locations within Square Directory;

-Square will process Starbucks U.S. credit and debit card transactions, which
will significantly expand Square’s scale and accelerate the benefits to businesses
on the Square platform, especially small businesses, while reducing Starbucks
payment processing costs;

- Using Square Directory, Starbucks customers will be able to discover local
Square businesses -- from specialty retailers to crafts businesses -- from
within a variety of Starbucks digital platforms, including the Starbucks
Digital Network and eventually the Starbucks mobile payment application;

- Starbucks will invest $25 million in Square as part of the company’s Series D
financing round;

- Starbucks chairman, president and ceo Howard Schultz will join Square’s
Board of Directors.

https://squareup.com//news/releases/2012/square-starbucks
To me it looks inspired by Squeryl http://squeryl.org/
Squeryl http://squeryl.org/ has been around a while!
Jack's signature is "@jack"? Nice.
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I think you're right. Starbucks is absolutely the best possible partner/customer to help Square make "Pay With Square" a broad reality.
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I wonder how those two stack up to "Dream Park" by Larry Niven?
I think it's often fine to pick up only a shallow understanding on your first time. Go away, try to use what you've learned, make all the silly beginner mistakes. Then, when you come back to the learning material again, you'll find it much easier to understand it properly.
I'm not that big a fan of Kare's work (shh, don't tell my ex-chumby coworkers), but I can't fault her here.

I've touched on this in another HN post, but I'm a big Android fan/booster who dislikes Apple for a lot of their business practices. Having said that, I also think Samsung is actually somewhat toxic for the Android community in that anyone with a bit of common sense can see that they do, in fact, borrow a bit too much from Apple with their hardware designs and custom UI skin look.

This is bad for the wider Android ecosystem because it gives some truth to Apple's claims that "Android" rips off the iPhone/iPad even though IMO the core Android UI/UX stands on its own merits and in many ways bests the somewhat aging UX of the iPhone. What little soapbox Apple has to stand on is primarily due to Samsung being both unwilling to roll with standard Android UI and also lacking their own design talent capable of doing much other than badly copying Apple.

As a former iPhone 3G user who went Android with the Droid I thought for years that Apple was completely full of shit with their anti-Android stuff, but a few months ago I actually used a friend's Samsung Android phone for the first time and my opinion changed fairly drastically when I saw how blatantly it copied the iPhone 3G in terms of form factor and general look. This likeness went far beyond "Apple thinks they own the rectangle", but sadly because Samsung is so shameless, those claims actually end up having more weight than they should.
Thanks for that. I never lost faith in Wikipedia, but now I'm actually excited again, yay.

Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

:)
Just what we needed, a timely contribution to help bring Linux to the desktop. /sarcasm
Just tried again, and I got a bunch of results:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asfbay.craigslist.org+b...

Of the 10 results on the first page, 7 are within the last hour.

(1) Boat
sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/3191071012.html
2 hours ago ... 408-726-8722 i don�t know about the motor or about the boat but if you want to
see it call.... that is the reason that i can�t wrote about the ...

SF bay area boats - by owner classifieds - craigslist
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SF bay area boats - by owner classifieds - craigslist.

(2) 1964 Fabuglas 16ft fishing boat
sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/3191162483.html
1 hour ago ... This was my dads fishing boat. It runs good. But could use a little TLC. Its a 1964
16 foot Fabuglas out of Nashville Tennessee. Most of the ...

SF bay area marine services classifieds - craigslist
sfbay.craigslist.org/mas/ - Cached
Sat Aug 04. Shipwright/Boat Work - (berkeley) ... Boat & Marine Related Service -
(hayward / castro valley) ... SF Charter Boat, Book Now - (San Francisco Bay) ...

(3) SIDEWINDER 16' SPEED BOAT trade for services or...??? - Craigslist
sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bar/3191164088.html
1 hour ago ... 1980 BLUE sidewinder motor boat. Seats 4. 35+mph. 70 hp 2 stroke VRO
Evinrude motor, no need to premix fuel. Runs strong. Starts right up.

Fishing / Hunting Boat
sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/3176240765.html
6 days ago ... 2004 War Eagle Boat, semi v front flat bottom(17ft.), with a 2003 40hp Mercury(4
stroke) motor with 20- 25 hours on it. The boat is on an EZ ...

(4) Sailboat rudder off a 22' boat
sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/3191237551.html
14 minutes ago ... 4'10'' tall rudder from a 22' boat. It is in great condition and is a solid Bay rudder.
Can be brought up in case of a grounding by pulling on a rope ...

(5) MB Sports V Drive Ski & Wakeboard Boat
sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3187986181.html
1 day ago ... 2002 MB SPORTS 220 V-Drive. This boat is an excellent for both skiing and
wakeboards. We have used it and enjoyed it for slalom skiing and ...

(6) * BAYLINER* NICE BOAT, NICE PRICE... BEST OFFER MOVING ...
sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3191163056.html
1 hour ago ... VERY CLEAN BOAT New wheel bearings on trailer. 3.0 Mercruiser 135 H.P.
Great on gas. 40-45 mph top speed. Just registered! Garaged for 7 ...

(7) wanted boat polisher
sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3191196564.html
50 minutes ago ... wanted boat polisher (pittsburg / antioch) ... I am looking for someone to polish
and wax my 28 ft boat. topside only dont have to do the hull.
Is Starbucks going to stop accepting credit cards? Adding less confusing new machines to the confusing old machines does not result in less average confusion.

[sorry, that was retarded, I confused square with a different payment system. disregard.]
How does this thread not have any comments?

I'm no lawyer, but I hope you get someone to help you out. However, given this case of giant corporation versus hardworking developer, the former usually wins.
When a Square customer walks into a Starbucks, that person's name, picture and order history will automatically pop up onto Starbucks' terminals. It's hard to exaggerate the benefit of such.
this guys is just too awesome.
So I can be tied whatever tech a provider happens to support, and have limited if any options or information when (not if) they suffer an outage?

I would say I can't wait for the "cloud" buzzword to go out of use, but of course it will be replaced by something even worse.
Sounds cool, post it on HN when you're done.

Along the same lines, Pat Helland's paper "Building on Quicksand" says we should take inspiration from the paperwork used in business processes (like carbon copies, etc.):

http://masterthefundamentals.rstata.org/2011/10/10/building-...

Real life doesn't have distributed transactions! I'm sort of convinced that in 10 years, distributed transactions will be viewed as naive in the way that RPC is (or is starting to be). Both are trying to make distributed computing look like single-machine computing. But they're just inherently different.

Oh also there is "starbucks doesn't used 2 phase commit": http://www.eaipatterns.com/ramblings/18_starbucks.html

EDIT: Regarding your last point, I don't think it's inherently difficult to come up with these kinds of systems. Programmers just have to let go of the idea that there's a single truth and they control it all. That the program knows all. They have to have "empathy" with individual actors in the system. Each actor is dealing with participants it doesn't necessarily trust. The programmer has to put himself in the position of each actor when writing that code.
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The announcement aside (line 1 of 20), this "letter" is some poor PR spew. Jack, if you're listening, you need a personal letter stylist. Letters are like jeans that people read.
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Me neither. No restaurant can afford 2.75% per transaction going to Square versus the 1.64% which goes to Visa/Mastercard/Discover[1]. Fortunately for Starbucks, people are willing to pay much more for their cup of coffee than it costs them to make.

[1] http://payments.intuit.com/pricing/
Starbucks will still be accepting credit cards, cash, and now even Pay with Square tabs!
I've been brainwashed by the article and is wondering what JS means here. IS or JS?
VC++ generates a warning with while(1) but not with for(;;).
I just can't remember what warning level you need in order to see that distinction.
Is this yet another middle man to suck fees out of the system? I have not kept up with Square but despise the though of yet another fee leech that is compiling a list of my purchases to sell to annoying advertising companies.

/shoutAtClouds
Holy grey-on-grey readability disaster, Batman!

And shouldn't 140 characters have been enough?
No. Square's product is all about accepting credit cards. From the press release:

"Square will process Starbucks U.S. credit and debit card transactions, which will significantly expand Square’s scale and accelerate the benefits to businesses on the Square platform, especially small businesses, while reducing Starbucks payment processing costs"

https://squareup.com/news/releases/2012/square-starbucks

The Square Register product takes plastic as well as letting people pay via the geo-fencing Pay with Square app.
Why has no upstart knocked Craigslist from its perch, despite its outdated design and failure to work nicely with others?

Is there a rule that when you read the word "despite" it usually means "because of"?
I think you have the last words because line drawing algorithms become irrelevant if you use a Floating Point Unit.

just:

{ x++ and y+=slope }
or
{ y++ and x+= 1./slope }

Then slopes are always rational in line drawing algorithms.
Losing a decent chunk of change? How can they lose something they wouldn't otherwise have had at all? It's only normal to assume that they have special terms for Starbucks, but it doesn't mean they're losing anything.

Unless you mean that Square is providing the service at a loss to Starbucks?
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I hear he discovered El Dorato with a node.js powered compass. Good stuff.
Twitter and Craigslist (among many many others) are all vulnerable

Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
I really do not see the benefit of this deal. Square - sure, another bunch of retailers. Starbux, not so much. NFC will take over and then square is out. can someone explain?
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Isn't the core value for directions / time costing estimates? Google Now is pretty amazing at estimating my commute based upon the traffic.
There were once a variety of tools to list on eBay and all the other auctions sites. Your idea sounds about as good as that.
Anyone running anything remotely serious on AWS should have 2 factor auth enabled I hope
really? 300,000 miles without an accident is not particularly amazing for a human. I mean, it's good, but not amazing.
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That issue disappeared before the 1980's. Check your compiler.
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What "dogpile"? Seriously, since when does two upvotes constitute a dogpile?

The reality is that if something isn't written well, the design is not going to wow me by itself. Good writing is a requirement, not an option, for great sites.
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I could be wrong, but I feel like getting money back from my bank after fraud will be a bit easier than getting it back from Amazon.
It was Google's deal with Yahoo that catapulted them to mega success! They were Yahoo's OEM for search and Yahoo was Internet's home page at that time.
So-called designer ? Susan Kare is the most famous icon designer of all time.

And she was tasked with analysing ONLY the user interface. So whether the phone has different logos or extra buttons is irrelevant.
Perfect deal for seeding Square broadly. Awesome!
At the scale Starbucks will single-handedly bring them to, you really think they'll be using the default pricing?

Regardless, they're very clear on the post:

>Square will process Starbucks U.S. credit and debit card transactions, which will significantly expand Square’s scale and accelerate the benefits to businesses on the Square platform, especially small businesses, while reducing Starbucks payment processing costs;

Starbucks saves payment processing costs. That's benefitting them.
I don't think your information is up to date. I have definitely been asked for a verification code when logging into Chrome 22. And yes, I mean the kind of code generated by the Google Authenticator app, not an app specific password.
So what's the deal with WebCL? I can't write code with it yet?
But square collects 3%, which is much higher than most merchant accounts.
Skeuomorphism can be horrible if it's not done properly!
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Yes, I would guess they are providing this service at a (slight) loss to Starbucks.
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> yet another fee leech that is compiling a list of my purchases to sell to annoying advertising companies.

Square's business model is transactional. It's not advertising based!
From the impression I get, if your growth is big enough that you need multi-site replication (I'm sure there are outlying cases where you are a small company and need multi-site replication, but those are very rare instances I would think) you're going to need more than just "something to install".

I think Basho has a ops guy that is tasked specifically with going to these Enterprise companies and helping them with the setup - multi-site replication most likely means there are hundreds or thousands of nodes being deployed and that type of thing is really complex and also tricky to do right (even with Riak, which makes it REALLY easy).

My feeling on the price issue is this: Riak is willing to work with their clients - if you need it, you're going to call them and they basically workout what it is you need and what they can provide (maybe it is just the multi-site addon, maybe it's that plus a ops guy that knows Riak in and out and can get you completely set up worry-free with full-time support).
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>Ubiquity and response time matter.

Yes. cabs are useless where I am, too. They say they will be there in 30 minutes, but that's best case.

But there are plenty of unemployed folks with cars. How much of the cab shortage is due to regulatory capture?

Imagine, for instance, an app where I could give my location, a timeframe and, say, an amount I was willing to pay. "Hey, $50 if you pick me up from the office and drive me home... if you get here within 10 minutes"

Such an app is technically easy, and I imagine there are enough people with cars either going where I'm going or simply idle to make it work. But there are... legal barriers in place.
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All the cool kids are talking about skeuomorphic design lately.
Here are a few implementations that supposedly run on Linux, but I haven't tried them yet:

https://code.google.com/p/cuteauthenticator/

https://github.com/mclamp/jauth

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Also, Android can apparently be run in VirtualBox, but I haven't tried that yet, either:

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It's not cynicism, it's just logic and my observation of how several tech companies operate. It may seem great that a company would want to promote its novices, but the fact that it operates with novices doing the work precludes this. It's not economical to promote and pay more just for the sake of promotion. All they need are novices so why pay senior wages? Turnover does have some cost, so companies will either bait there employees into staying a bit longer by promoting one or two people and letting everyone know that person's new salary, or they will just not promote anyone. Either way, most people are going to look elsewhere after 2-3 years of flat salaries.
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Read closer.

"compiling a list of my purchases" Visa, Amex, Discover, Mastercard... All do this and are transactional.

"to sell to annoying advertising companies" And this.
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Really? Maybe for a merchant on Starbuck's level, but for small merchants, cc processors definitely charge more than 2.75%. Even if you get a lower percentage rate (impossible) you get charged 0.05 or more per transaction, plus a monthly service fee + monthly equipment fee, etc. Square is definitely a cheaper option.
I think the parent poster meant cities where the road rules amount to a functioning car horn. The roads of Japan are nothing like Cairo/Istanbul etc. There are a lot of cars - but they drive in an orderly, predictable manner.

On a related note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yurikamome

In Tokyo they already have an automated transit system that is basically a truck on rails. See this image to get a better picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Model_7000-Fourth_of_Yurik...
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The person they hired couldn't do my job, and the company imploded pretty soon afterwards. They were simply choosing to hire inexperience cheaply rather than build a real business. I think this is a result of the fact that their primary product was stock they sold to investors.
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Maybe soon we'll have open source Motif, then I'll finally be able to not give a shit.

Funny timing though, I'm pretty sure I saw a Motif app or two on one of the screens at NASA during the Curiosity landing.
I don't think it's appropriate to call it "losing money" when one does not have the ability to sell. Probably a bad analogy but it might be like saying a baseball team lost the game because it had fewer runs in the 5th inning.
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Good idea, I don't have a "Don't be evil" motto ;)
It's not annoying (to me) since I happen to like Marco. But I do notice a pattern. (a) story happens (b) it makes HN (c) marco makes a one or two sentence comment on it (d) his comment makes HN.

Similar to the way Daring Fireball blogs about Apple stories, except he doesn't make HN as much.
In what jurisdiction? In the US, most jobs are "at will", and you can be fired from them for no reason at all. There are some reasons that are actually illegal, but I don't believe "we think we can hire someone cheaper" is among them.
This is a stupid argument. The character "flaws" the author cites are basically why much of the technological progress of the past several decades originated in Silicon Valley.
Ahhh, the ole' semicolon debate.
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Implementations like Duo help only if you're the service provider, right? As a user, independent of the service provider is there anything I can do?
It's the NYPD. They'll wage whatever they want on him; they consider themselves well above the law.
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Do people order prints anymore?

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I like that it's on Sourceforge, as though they're inviting people to ignore it. That said, I'll probably try building it over the weekend, just for nostalgia's sake.
The readme suggests that he only gets a copy of the final laws. That means he can diff two versions of a law, but more work would need to be done to say that a change to two different laws belongs in the same patch. Apparently that data is not machine readable.
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Craigslist would probably try to block those services if they became too popular.