skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I restrict my usage of infrastructure providers to publicly listed companies. The transparency is just so much better. You can get a lot of info on how they run their business and where they are going.

For now, that limits my choices in Europe to IONOS and OVH.

OVH's interface is pretty chaotic. But the services themselves seem reliable so far. IONOS seems pretty solid in all aspects, but a bit cheesy in their constant battle to upsell you more services.
I would argue it has a very great deal of historical support. And yes, it's a simplification, it's not like it's the only factor (e.g. Ukraine was rapidly improving since the fall of the Soviet union and now they're at war. We all know what happened, and I don't consider that a counterexample)
Equinix only provide the physical space and power, and things can be set up with them not even having physical access to your room/cage, other than forcing it (which would be visible). While they could be an attack vector, with modern hardware even having physical access is not a guarantee to having access to the data (TPM2 and disk encryption are trivial to set up).

The risk is much lower than e.g. AWS.
The average person didn't have a college education in the 1980s. Rates of educational attainment have skyrocketed. So obviously a lot more people spend a lot more money to be university-educated than did in the 1980s. Maybe people put more value on education today?

Students expect a lot more services from universities today. They expect regular formative assessments. They expect various support services. They expect warm, air conditioned buildings without draughts. They expect healthcare, mental health support, disability services, and expensive facilities for everything: projectors and screens and computers and everything.

Could that also be part of the drive of cost? The services definitely are, theyre a big driver of the increase in admin staff at universities.

The cost of education is pretty irrelevant anyway because nobody actually pays it. You get a loan. That is paid by someone else: you, later. But young men and women heading off to university don't have a moment where they have to give up the opportunity to go because they don't have the money.
I will never support cancel culture. But let’s be honest, cancel culture wasn’t his invention…
I like that too, but it's pretty hard to do. The best design is when there's no more to take away. Nice ideal, but sometimes I don't have time for aesthetics, I need to hit other aesthetics or ship ha. I try not to take it so far into complex as badge of honor tho - it's mainly about self-respect - I'm gonna be maintaining that code (or someone else is) - I want to be kind to myself.
Dosen't the EU Data Act prhoibit egress costs?
> Oh well, at least more power to those who embrace the new tech early on.

Why would embracing it early before it is useful give you more power?
I'm not so sure, the US dropping out of the race doesn't mean the whole race is over.
> Furthermore, in the EU there is not something such as the 4th amendment, Law Enforcement and Intelligence agencies can grab your cloud data without requiring a warrant. Unless the data is stored in the US, which is one of the reasons they are so eager to keep it "home

You're commenting under an article that explicitly says how US intelligence agencies and police get around the need for warrants. Many rights in the US are more theoretical than practical if someone in power decides so.

Also, there are strong expectations of privacy in the EU, as well as due process, warrants, etc. There are of course abuses, and especially "terrorism" can enable some shortcuts (to be fair, often for very good reason multiple EU countries have had tens to hundreds of dead from terrorist attacks that could and should have been prevented), but I don't have the impression it's in any way even close to as bad as the US. Do you have any information/sources to the contrary?
We have a looooong way to go. Even this cluster is just one product we consume from AWS.

And don't get me started on O365...

But the fact that there's money available for this is a big shift.
I don't really understand this argument. What rare wildlife would it be necessary to find at night, that wouldn't also be disturbed by bright lamps? If you were looking for nocturnal animals you'd surely want your lamps off, and for anything else you could just search after sunrise.
> So far nobody in the United States is looking for alternatives to European services and products

Apart from the president, intent on starting a trade war?

US imports are going to be made more expensive because of tit-for-tat tariffs, so of course people are starting to look around elsewhere for alternatives.

What did you expect would happen when your government starts down the road of isolationist policies?
What's the real difference in the end?

Between a VPS at DO or a server at Hetzner?
Herd behavior in CEOs is a very strong problem. It's one thing to make a mistake, but if you make a different unorthodox choice and something goes wrong then it looks especially bad.
That's not exactly unusual, for example pytorch has Python, C++, C, and Cuda.
mmmm these two things are very deeply linked in that politics creates trust and bad policy very easily removes global trust just like personal relationships (literally what we're seeing in the US).

i live in asia - indonesian vs vietnam foreign policy (despite problems in domestic policy) has shown how vast the difference in policy can generate foreign trust which lead to manufacturing which lead to a lot more money being brought to VN overall.
hey thanks, its a nextjs app, built with threejs and custom shaders and a custom interactive particle system.
How does it compare to Google's https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08252-9
The trust is gone. Even if the dems win the next election, we now know that the US isn't stable enough to handle one rouge president.

With the massive cost of shifting infrastructure, those scared away by the current US administration is mostly gone for good.
Having worked as Cloud Solution Architect at Microsoft Germany/Azure, let me tell you:

Nope this gap can not be closed by any US company alone due to the Us Patriot Act - which forces any US company (including e.g. a German subsidiary) to allow access to all data for national security purposes.
I'm german and i did not know this.
As mentioned, not sure how much it gets consumed currently, lets see if we start going the Canada way.
> Everything they offer is storage, VPS, Load balancer, one managed key-value store and two managed databases. For the price a little higher than, say, Digital Ocean. But where is managed cache, message broker, e-mail service. It is not enough to be European, they need to offer something competitive

And don't forget managed Kubernetes. You can get pretty far with the services they provide and the Kubernetes ecosystem.

For a more complete offering, check out Scaleway - French, regions in a couple of locations, and a wide array of services, up to e-mail service, message broker, quantum computers, AI inference.
Thanks for the overview, naturally tarifs might change that, see Canada, no US products any longer on big chains.
Hetzner behaves pretty much like DO, with servers that can be changed in the corresponding management panel. Or what aspect do you think is different?
There's a lot of negativity and nit picking here. Upcloud are OK, Hetzner are better in my opinion for a lot of things.

Nothing is perfect and European providers need to start somewhere. We all know there are tradeoffs and limitations but there's no need for a pile on.
They should stop doing that then. Absolutely no good reason for it in the first place, other than discrimination.
Why? For most games (especially a "2d hide and seek") you drop a zip file and press a single button on your dev console to publish.
No, I don't mean that. You assume that this is a logical conclusion but the problem is that "Bob would have to be pretty egregious to make it so Alice cannot work effectively" is not actually true. Bob, being the slightly better coder, could make Alice's life miserable without, like, doing a harassment that HR would be interested in. Constantly changing APIs that Alice relies on ("they're better now, why are you complaining?"), being overly nitpicky in reviews ("I'm not wrong, aren't I?"), or just outright taking the more interesting work ("I think I would do it faster than Alice") are all ways Bob could reduce Alice's productivity. If Alice is 0.9 of Bob, then instead of getting 1.9 Bobs you might get 1.2, while Alice plus Carl–who is just merely half a Bob–might be able to outperform that.
Should you do YC as a European founder?
HTTP protocol changes were never, ever, going to make bundling unnecessary. No one actually involved in the things said it would, or thought it would. It was less-deeply-involved people misunderstanding things that led to that popular impression.

HTTP/2’s better multiplexing helps a little, but you’ve still completely got the waterfall problem: so you have at an absolute minimum of overhead the dependency graph depth times the round-trip time—frequently multiple seconds.

HTTP/2 Server Push could have improved it in some regards, as it can in theory break out of the waterfall problem, but in practice it would have required much more complex servers, and was missing important pieces so that it was completely useless anyway (a way for the client to tell the server what resources it has cached), and they eventually just removed it all round rather than inventing and implementing the missing pieces, with which it still would have been a good deal less efficient to execute than bundling.

Minifying and bundling is just better, no matter what.
Globalisation in itself wouldn't be as bad, if the profits were equally distributed. But most often globalisation just means taking away worker and consumers protections so mega corporations can outsource manufacturing/labour/services to cheaper countries with low or no environmental / social protections.

Before Globalisation of markets there must be a globalization of citizen rights to the highest standards.
do you mind share which app you are using?
It’s just familiarity. I find it much easier to read than C++.
> trust has been broken

By what? Tariffs?

We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares. But now that trump is in office, we suddenly have an issue with the US? Ridiculous.
Not sure why you are being downvoted so harshly.

A bit less globalism in terms of shipping consumer products across the world isn't such a bad thing. Continents becoming more self sustainable and consuming the products they can produce, only importing those things that it really needs. Advocados are not mandatory in our diet.
No I don't think so. You have to able to take your own data out for free. But delivering it to everybody else can be charged.

Edit: Not allowed to comment on your reply anymore. I read it as a confirmation of what I said. Charging for egress in general is allowed. Only the egress to take your own data elsewhere must be free.
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GDPR goes further than the cookies, though.
Money Laundering Story Time:

- In the early 1970s, my father (Italian immigrant to the US) was coach / manager of a semi-pro soccer team in Massachusetts.

- His team had a game in Worcester, Mass and one of his players introduced my father to a "friend" who was actually part of the New England Mafia.

- After some polite conversation, mafia-guy says, "I could pay for your team's uniforms, pay your league dues. I could even give your players a little travel money for games ..."

- My father says, "what do we have to do...?"

- Mafia guy says, "We'd like you to apply to the State of Massachusetts and declare your team to be a non-profit organization. Once you're a non-profit, Massachusetts will allow you to run a 'las vegas gambling night' fundraiser twice per year. I would run those fundraisers for you."

- My father didn't exactly understand the scam, but he politely declined and that was that.

In retrospect, it was pretty obvious that the guy wanted to launder money through the soccer team and the Las Vegas Night fundraiser was the 'vehicle' to cleanse the dirty money.
Your comment needs some serious fact checking. For example, Encrochat backdoor was authorized by judge, so there was a due process. And it was not an ordinary customer.
They get upset because you don’t want to join in on boycotting Trump and Musk, and right now that’s very trendy.
Your comment as written comes off as elitist snark, which is likely why you are getting downvoted. You could’ve instead phrased it as a list of suggestions, tips, or feature requests. OP is sharing for free something cool they made for themselves on their free time. We need more independent fun stuff like this, don’t discourage a better world.
Short answer: It is difficult because you aren't familiar with it, and your brain is still wired for memory-unsafe or GCed languages. But it is actually easier to read than most other languages when you understand it and how to navigate it.

When I first started learning Rust several years ago, I shared your viewpoint. With a heavy preference for C++ syntax, I thought Rust looked atrocious.

Then I learned it. I got good with it. I got comfortable with it. I switched from VS Code based IDEs to vim, then to IDEs with vim bindings (trying Zed now). Now, Rust reads like a dream -- aside from lifetime specifiers, which I think could be much smarter than they are now.

Anyway, it has superior pattern matching and code searching. snake_case is easier to navigate than camelCase or PascalCase. Keywords are short and easily recognizable. Branching logic is much, much easier to follow. Error handling is explicit and also easier to follow (and I started out really missing try-catch). Code gen with macros eliminates a lot of headaches. A 1st class package manager that is fast & can be easily inspected, that seamlessly integrates into the code...the list goes on.

The point is, it is a paradigm shift that doesn't hide much of anything away. When you consider there is no GC and you are in full control of memory, that there are strict syntax and styling rules that make the global Rust codebase universally accessible, once you switch to it you find yourself wishing everything was written in Rust. That is why people using it want to rewrite everything, even well established packages. A Rust-only codebase is buttery smooth.
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- The compiler will most-likely ignore your inline instructions and decide on its own whether inlining is done or not, so might as well remove them.

There are compiler specific attributes that can really force this. Of course, it's worth doing benchmarks and looking at the generated assembly to see if this is necesary
We have a saying in Dutch. Trust leaves on horseback but comes back on foot.
And their cookie pop is non-compliant.
Oh, I hadn't heard about that. Do you know what's the story behind this choice?
> Programmers Should Never "Hand-Code," All Programmers Become Code Reviewers

I swear it's a conspiracy to destroy software in general.
Many on here don't seem to understand this has nothing to do with privacy.
It's about sovereignty - if DJT can turn off your digital infrastructure on a whim, you are in a very precarious position. That's why both Canada and Europe are in panic mode and looking for alternatives.
Like these?

* https://european-alternatives.eu

* https://dataethics.eu/european-tech-alternatives/

* https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2025/03/19/private-eu...

* https://dev.to/devlinkstudios/top-20-european-alternatives-t...

India has its own, now slightly faltering, Indian alternatives movement that came out of the border conflict with China a few years ago.

* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/gadgets-news/indian-alte...

* https://socinator.com/blog/indian-alternatives-to-chinese-ap...

* https://techbaked.com/best-indian-alternatives-to-china-apps...

* https://www.thenewsminute.com/atom/all-you-need-know-about-t...

* https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/tiktok-is-gone-but...

There is a lot more in this vein from India during 2020 to 2021.
> LLMs are even more limited than humans though- tiny context windows,

For now.
You are correct, and I am being facetious. I would still rather we produce things like AWS, however. While it's more substitutable, it is so because the value is more rational and inherent.
yes but coca cola lost in the western market. they sell mostly in the poorer countries. dont forget its cheap as shit water with sugar. The premium feeling comes because of marketing
“We are seeing, just like the rest of Americans, this community has seen a lot of stories about vaccines causing autism, and that is leading to a lot of this vaccine hesitancy, not religion,” she said.

The epicenter of the outbreak is a right wing, extremist, religious community long known to be anti-vax --- but religion has nothing to do with it?

Texas law specifically allows vaccine exemptions for “reasons of conscience, including a religious belief" --- but religion has nothing to do with it?

Maybe the real problem is Texas logic?
Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say, lower latency?

Because surely fibre optics beats microwave on speed?
In your link, they also cut at 2020 that is very difficult to compensate in a comparison.
Its still Hetzner Cloud so a VPS, not a Bare-metal server.
> given current hostility of Europe against Trump

This is akin to Trump talking about the hostility of Ukraine against Russia. The US are the bullies here, not the other way round.

> but what if in two years Trump will be off the news, people would not care anymore about being anti_USA

Time will tell, but this is the first time in the life of all living Europeans that the US threatens them militarily. And many US citizens not only seem to not care, but they seem to find it okay (and even say that the Europeans are the ones being hostile to the US).

IMO, something has been broken this time. Europeans see the US as a national security concern. At this speed, this feeling will just get stronger in the next two years, and honestly I am not convinced that any results in two years could "just repair the damage" immediately. The trust has been broken now, it will take time to come back (assuming the US do come back from this).
I hope also devolopers get rid of Nginx becaouse it is Russian/American software.
A Trump H-1B crackdown could hit Big Tech hard, with Amazon suffering most
I might mention the dedicated subreddit with lots of useful information (and some noise too).

https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/
Apologies in advance for the thread hijacking, but I wonder if there would be enough interest in a turn-key solution for a fully suite of open source SaaS alternatives, hosted in a European cloud (Hetzner and/or OVH).

The idea would be to take any existing commonly used service at a startup and set up the FOSS equivalent, unify them with SSO via OIDC and charge by the a flat rate based on the amount of resources.

I've already built something similar for social media platforms, so I think I would just have to expand my catalog to do it.
Chapter VI: Switching between data processing services

The Data Act will also entirely remove switching charges, including charges for data egress (i.e. charges for data transit), from 12 January 2027. This means that providers won’t be able to charge their customers for the operations that are necessary to facilitate switching or for data egress. However, as a transitional measure during the first 3 years after the Data Act’s entry into force (from 11 January 2024 to 12 January 2027), providers may still charge their customers for the costs incurred in relation to switching and data egress.

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/data-act-...
My time machine finally works! lets ask someone what year it is now

- What are the Russians doing?

- They are waging war against their western neighbor and have annexed part of its territory.

- What are the Americans doing?

- They are engaged in a tariff war with Europe and are trying to annex Canada and Greenland

- What are the Germans doing?

- They are increasing their national defense spending

- Oh
> We have known about NSA spyops for more than a decade now, with actual impact on our tech. Nobody cares.

Nobody cares, because nobody really understands the consequences.

But now it's different. The US are threatening to invade and annex territories. Everybody understands what that means.
I think because it was unnecessarily conspiratorial. I can’t just sequence DNA can you? Do you think government agencies are collecting your tissues?
That reasoning would lead to concluding all the businesses in SP500 are traded at 10x their worth on paper. Or at least all the ones with market caps greater than Tesla.

Edit, since I hit posting limit.

To pooper:

> Since it's such a big part of the S&P500

The conclusion is based on that premise, so any other business that satisfies that premise should also lead to the same conclusion.

To llm:

> I think their point is that businesses at the top of the S&P500 are traded at sentiment and momentum based values that are pretty disconnected from a logical P/E

I have read the same about other businesses many times. There is nothing logical about only using P/E as a factor in determining price (or “worth”). No one knows the future, so even a price derived from an arbitrary standard of P/E is a “sentiment and momentum based” value.
I'd be very interested in hearing about that difference - Indonesia is a country of 281 million people (!) that's almost invisible on the world stage, while Vietnam is a manufacturing success despite being nominally Communist still.
Haven’t used Upcloud for any larger workloads, but had a customer VPS there for multiple years. Worked well and the UI for managing servers was great.
Or you could just setup a backup with the cloud provider. Even better, a different cloud provider and follow the 3-2-1 rule for backups.
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Nothing about this job description sounds appealing, it has to be a joke.
yikes, thats all your dna, sold
Available since 2011 at least. Not sure whether that would qualify for a [2011] in the submission.
So it sounds like HP pays nothing to the people they hurt, they don't have to admit to doing anything wrong, and they get to continue to kill printers using forced updates as long as they aren't one of 21 specific models, and even for those 21 models they can still kill them using updates as long as they don't call the update a "Dynamic Security feature"?

This is exactly the kind of bullshit "win" that makes class-action lawsuits a total joke for anyone looking for justice, and why corporations continue to engage in user-hostile behavior. They stand to make a lot more money screwing over consumers than they have to fear from lawsuits.
People don't check your intentions before they discriminate, they just do.