skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> how did this government get a majority?

That's not what people voted for (agreeing with the government). They were given choices and to pick what they felt they preferred.
the author explains his reasons in considerable detail in the article...
> Could we avoid politics on the tech scene?

In the situation we are in currently? It's almost impossible unfortunately due to our political leaders.
Could you tell that to Peter Thiel or Elon Musk, please?
Every country should be pround on theirs companies, producing good products and paying taxes.

Catalogs like this can be a good discovery that some company like this even exist.
This is an incredibly childish take on geopolitics. It’s almost funny.
>What are European values, actually?

We accept that each European country people are equal, we agree to collaborate and not screw each others for land.

Also we in majority are against fascism,racism and discrimination though social media managed to make a portion of idiots to hate LGBTQs and wokes so they want they adopted fascist values. We as citizens we re doing our best to fight aginst this fascists groups.

And before some MAGA will calim that right wing extemists are not fascists, I remind you that supporting assassinations, deportations, killings while at the same time pretending to be Christian is fascist (at least in my country, in USA might be labeled different)
uh.. why doesnt israel not do genocide for once?
I hate discord, it is where enthusiasm is met with "bad girls" energy. Plus, it's an information black hole.
BUT, and this is important, there is a big clear "Reject all" button.

My problem with cookie banners isn't their mere existence, but that the scum if the earth make it almost impossible to reject data collection.
All iPhone SoCs made after ChatGPT launched start with 8gb, and all Mac SoCs start with 16hlgb
How does OpenZiti compare to Nebula?

What does it do better/worse, and are the use cases different?
Yeah, you can't be a nazi in Europe, promoting political assasination and genocide has consequences there,
What are "European Values"? Are they identical to the values of the EU, that are in section 2 of the Treaty of European Union:

"The Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities."[1]

Also, did all the listed companies sign a codex that they will adhere to those values?

And finally, in which way do non-European companies, for example Amazon, violate those values?

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...
- Install & authenticate on all your machines

- Boom, everything works

- Internet? feels like local-net

This is just brilliant tech. Thank you so much for building this guys and the amazing effort that goes behind it everyday
Correct. E.g. Russia is on the European continent.

By size, they provide a lot of both European and Asian values.
> The biggest selling point of Discord is its insane network effects.

Ease of use is also up there. (Compared to IRC)
Startup CEO from Europe here. How am I supposed to turn a blind eye to the risk that the dependency from the US has become lately?
1 month of Trump in office, and NATO is already but a distant memory in american minds, not to mention USA's use of Article 5 after 9/11.
"Easier to trust Tesla or VW."

Teslas are now old enough to be subject to mandatory yearly inspection in EU. They are dead last in the German and Swedish rankings based on the number of issues found during the yearly inspection.

German TÜV EV+ICE ranking:

1. Honda Jazz

2. VW Golf

...

110. Ford Mondeo

111. Tesla model 3

Swedish Besktining EV car maker ranking

1. Polestar

2. Lync

...

X-1. Dacia

X. Tesla

Source:

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/11/tesla-model-3-comes-bottom...

https://www.tjanstebilsfakta.se/teslas-besiktningsresultat-a...
> it is where enthusiasm is met with "bad girls" energy.

What does that mean?
I know there is some rule about commenting about this on HN, but a website about "buy European made" that immediately starts with _two_ cookie banners about "Your privacy rights under _US_ state privacy laws" does seem weird. (I'm not in the US)
Even ignoring the moral and ethical values, doing business with US based companies seems much more risky now. I'm specifically thinking of:

1) tariffs / trade wars and

2) The big tech's total and swift capitulation to Donal and Elon. They have shown themselves to be totally spineless and pathetic. Why is that a risk? Donald is erratic. What if you prime minister piss off Trump in some way, and he orders US companies to pause business with your country? What happens to you AWS? Or your Google account? Or even Office?

2) might seem far-fetched to you, but there's a million ways this could happen. Cutting off all support to Ukraine seemed far-fetched to me at least, just a few months ago :(
Importat is funding for these projects. Plenty of them start as open source with donations which can led to frustration and burnout of developers.
Who says it's not all linux and Hetzner/OVH? No need to assume the worsr based on no data.
European values, like consumer protection, privacy, and environmental standards, are, in my view, among the best in the world. However, bureaucracy and politics push them in the wrong direction or tie everything up. I had never thought much about this before, but I now plan to look more into supporting European industries. However, only for products of comparable quality. If a product doesn’t measure up, I don’t see many people choosing it just for the sake of buying European.
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>There is broad consensus in Europe..

How is this measured actually? By what the media and public institutions say?

Is there poll targeted at the common working man that says the same? I highly doubts so.
> If a global set of "Don't be an asshole" values could be defined, put into words, shared and progressed...

Being a cynic, I expect the speeches to start with that then smoothly translate into "and therefore we have to spend more money on waging war in foreign countries". The US is exemplifying some of the best international values right now of trying to find a sharp end to all the meaningless dying we've been seeing for the last few years.

If it takes nationalism to make people serious about avoiding WWIII, so be it. Vote nationalist.
Signal comes from the country where the Prism [1] is still functioning. While it has open source, NSA can request from deployers on any stage to inject surveillance functionality: request from Signal authors, from Android / Apple Store repository maintainers and probably many other actors on the deployment chain to my mobile phone.

I could install it from sources but I do not have any guarantee my message sent to my friend is not eye-picked by PRISM on his phone.

Open-source + marketing copy != final product

Just a regular reminder, guys.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM
Is avoiding politics what Zuckerberg did when he rolled back fact-checking?

Since when has the hypercapitalist Silicon Valley ever avoided politics?
Oh ... ye well that solves it.
Like Siberian cattle ranching.

Already Russia has been sending russians to compete in Texas and other rodeos to pick up anticipated skill sets when the tundra is replaced by rich grasslands.
Maybe be specific, are there any specific wars you find undemocratic. Afganistan and Iraq was heavily debated, the attack on Ukraine is seen as an attack on Europe but is also heavily debated.
It’s a good thing because it gives companies autonomy to do what they want (within the law). It’s your responsabilità to take it or leave it.

The alternative is an oligarchy type model where you are bound to the whims of some external party.
How is US dependency a risk?
Also the entire site keeps in the dark who is behind this initiative. You can become a coordinator / collaborator and "Reach out to our team at catzlaura@proton.me". Whose team? I always find campaigns like these with anonymous groups behind it kind of fishy. Have a honest campaign? Make yourself known.
It's unclear if voice/video are supported or not?
First you get the success and then you write the formula. Easy.
No, because politics are essential. Yes, they are annoying. Yes, they are difficult at time, but they are important.
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I'm also well versed in end-to-end product development - data modeling, architecture, API development & integrations, performance analysis & optimization, etc.

Currently, I'm particularly interested in Observability, eBPF, Infrastructure tooling and distributed systems.
Buying from local vendors doesn't have to do anything with politics. From groceries to software it makes perfect sense to me to buying locally. The money i spend in my town or country will have much bigger effect here again than when i spend it in a different country or even a continent
>I'm more interested in knowing if there are any glimmers of hope left in Hungary.

Absolutely. In my opinion, our lifeline is the EU, as much as Orban is a pain in the ass for them. I believe that as long as Hungary is part of such international organizations, and I'm counting the NATO here as well, Orban can't cross certain borders, or at least not without repercussions, and I believe that he doesn't want any, since his whole shtick is to capitalize on these relations. For example, the same developments would have been (are?) much more scarier in Turkiye, or Belarus.
I saw that there is some communith, open source project who manage database by volunteering. That's the way.
Replace European with Cosmopolitan values. There are no unified European values, as the states of Europe are quite diverse. But there is significant cultural homogeneity for a subset of the population, the cosmopolitans. They tend to be the elites and form these kind of discourses. They use the term European values, mostly unaware of their cosmopolitan nature.
> The secret is how did they get popular with young kids? Well they offered a free service obviously, just like Google, just like Facebook.

In 2015, when they first got started, they marketed towards gamers (i.e. boys and men in their teens and early 20's). Even though the company's tagline at the time was that it offered a better Skype, Discord was more inclined to be a better replacement for a moribund Xfire and an aging Teamspeak. Word of mouth marketing on Reddit didn't hurt either.
Apparently the delusion of exceptionalism affecting physics didn't die with the entirely equatable Afghanistan experiences or am I supposed to take something else from silent down votes?
The perspective is that if Apple bricks its devices for a couple days in the UK the pitchforks will come out considering they have the moral high ground and the better marketing team to pitch it to the general population.

Whether it's good for a US corpo to interfere with the stable 1984 progression of the UK is another issue. If I were in a decision making position at Apple I wouldn't want to bother with this either. Just take the easy marketing W and move on. Maybe prepare a plan for market exit just in case they're not satisfied with disabling encryption and demand a global backdoor.
Am I missing something? The only alternative offered for Signal is a Matrix client. Matrix is open-source and federated, so, well, can really embody whoever's values you feel like. Though it, ah, certainly lacks something in _usability_.
"Discord in Early Talks With Bankers for Potential I.P.O." https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/technology/discord-ipo.ht...

Enshittification is inevitable, indeed mandatory.
don't european values include Monarchy?
I am working on this, and here are my personal observations thus far;

# Low hanging fruit:

- Food and clothes, like Coca Cola, Snickers, Nike, Levis, The North Face etc

- Mondelez. This is hard because they own so much. But obvious things like Oreo and Corn Flakes are easy.

- Social Media I rarely use. For me this was Snapchat, Instagram, WhatsApp, X, Bluesky and Messenger.

# Harder to ditch

- Facebook. Family :(

- Microsoft; Windows, VSCode, MS Teams, GitHub

- Google; Gmail is my primary for 15+ years, gDrive, gCalendar, google.com

- Amazon AWS, Google Cloud, Microsoft Azure.

- Streaming: YouTube, NetFlix, HBO and Disney+. This will be difficult.

- LLM, Claude and OpenAI-things

- Steam

- Discord

- My Tesla model Y.

# Impossible

- Smart Phone OS: Google Android or Apple iPhone/iOS

- Intel / AMD, hardware in general is difficult

So, this is all work in progress, but I keep this document in my Google Drive (gah!) and I'm adding more stuff every day and trying to shift my habbits.
How are you not aware that the US painted "we are no longer a reliable partner" all above the sky?
Some US companies may represent European values but are still operating under the thumb and law of the US.

The philosophy here (as I understand it) is to list companies that operate under the EU rule of law.
> Good argument. It applies to murder and mass genocide as well. All those people killed during the holocaust? They are dead so they don’t feel anything anymore. I don’t see what the problem is.

Are you comparing people who took a decision to end their life with people who never asked to be killed?

> Plenty of stories of people getting treated and plenty of stories of people who lost their desire to suicide.

Getting treated != healed.
Which makes even less sense.
Do you remember when FB chat was just Jabber and you could get RSS feeds from there?

Pepperi... I remember. I think I still have the local chat logs somewhere :D

But at one point they figured out the most valuable thing a social media site has is the content and the graph between users - and they locked it down first (APIs with limits). Then started turning off the API endpoints completely, just selling the aggregate data.

The bots and troll farms don't care, they can just use browser automation instead.
*Support European values financially.

Local circulation and tax payment does make a big and positive difference for many things (e.g., less transport for physical goods). Doesn't require the first recipient to be aligned with your values to have an effect.

It's just unfortunate that it had to be forced for stupid reasons, especially as it doesn't necessarily make sense for everything. This timeline sucks.
The CPU controlled squads of enemy soldiers and vehicles the players shoot. Arma is a first-person shooter game. The game engine it uses is not heavily multi-threaded, but the multiplayer system has some weird quirks that you can exploit to distribute AI processing across multiple networked instances, either in a multi-core or multi-machine topology.
> CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "Ninja". CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM is not set. You probably need to select a different build tool.

But at the end the problem is a missing header somewhere else. A pretty common thing in their Discord #build-problems channel.
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I remember hearing a talk of a tech guy who say why do techies like to talk about politics so much, and he said it's because tech-inclined people can see what the technology can do, and how it can be abused, and some want to warn the rest of the public.

Imagine if East Germany's state security service have the surveillance tech of China. Aha oops, I guess you don't need to imagine, you just have to look at China.
Yes, and it's just as cringy as freedom fries.
I read the FAQ, searched google and the documentation and could not find a single ting about any license.
With the arrival of APUs for AI everyone is going to lose interest in GPUs real fast.

Why buy an overpriced Nvidia 4090 when you can get an AMD Halo Strix or Apple M3 Studio APU with 512GB or 128GB of Ram?

Nvidia has kept prices high and performance low for as long as it can and finally competition is here.

Even Intel can make APUs with tons of RAM.

Nvidia hopefully is squirming.
Imagine GDPR, but for infra — that's the stuff of nightmares.

"EU Committee on Kubernetes."

By the way, that's exactly what China and Russia did — no AWS, GCP, or Azure there.
You also have the issue that a company like Ecosia is listed as a German company, but their search is powered by Bing and Google, so does it really make much of a difference?
There is a lot of history and values behind the "org that eases trade". It even has its own anthem, and the Treaty of Lisbon explicitly lists what values it is founded on.
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Only up to a point.

At some point "politics" becomes real and life changing, and ignoring it just becomes naive and spineless.
TIL there's a vouche feature. Thanks!
It's up to us, the users, to flag the political content. It seems like we're losing the battle, there's more and more political stuff allowed on the front page every month. As it keeps increasing, people like me will give up on the site and go elsewhere, and then there's fewer users flagging political stuff, and it takes over. Either we nip it in the bud now or it's all downhill from here.
> but an org that doesn't impose any kind of universal values across the different diverse members except some laws that ease trade, labor movement and cooperation and that's it

Also human rights, democracy, anti-corruption stuff. Now, as we've seen with Orban, Europe's mechanism for actually _enforcing_ this is basically defective.

And peace. Like, the original stated intent of the Coal and Steel Treaty (the EU's ultimate predecessor) was to prevent another European war (largely by making it economically impracticable).
Are you talking about legalities? AFAIK Hardware jailbreaking/homebrew tools are fine even in jurisdictions blighted with with DMCA unless they're specifically for circumventing DRM.

If more about morals, generally publishing vulnerability research tooling is business as usual for white hat vulnerability researchers, working at bigcorps or not, and has a long history. seems surprising to see this kind of "not cool" comment on this site.
I see we've had hours of the European echo chamber here.

I'm an American but I obviously don't represent my country. I just want to say one thing...

You Europeans don't need to worry. We will not abandon you in case Russia shows up in NATO territory because we have too long of a history together and strong commercial relations. We are a large country and you can bet we have shared values. It's in our strongest interest to ensure that you don't become part of a Russian Empire. We'd go there again as we've done multiple times in the past. Even Trump would do it. Don't take our renewed relationship with Russia as indication that we trust Putin. We just decided it's not worth pushing them against a corner. Disrespecting Russia is a mistake and leads to bad and dangerous outcomes.

But one thing we will no longer do is bail you out on every little crisis in your continent. We are not your private security. YES, let France be your nuclear shield. YES, have the UK and its ships protecting you. German tanks. Italian airplanes. Polish artillery. Make sure you are armed to the teeth and Russian dictators won't dare to invade you.
No, that has now become a value of American Republicans.
> but please don't conflate the current administration with the whole American people.

No, never. I have enough experience on that matter due to where I live and due to friends I have all over Europe and US.

People and the administration of the country they happen to born/live in are completely detached in my mind.
All software is inherently political, whether it's possible to ignore this fact or not is up for debate and your personal situation. Much like a gun, if you look at it in complete isolation from everything else in existence, you might be able to make the case that it's just an object with no meaning attached. But just like guns, software does not live in isolation. In the same way that producing guns, access to guns, buying and selling guns, etc is deeply political, so is software. Pretending that it isn't is only hiding your head under the sand in the hopes that the world won't come knocking.

We need to accept this fact as an industry and take responsibility for our work. Whether it's tracking people online, facial recognition at protests, aggregate cellular data used to deanonymize or etc, all of this software was built by people and claiming it's just a tool with no harm no foul is trying to shed responsibility we should bear.
Agreed Europe has never had to care about that because we have always supported the US. Now there is always Loongson/Zhaoxin to base your infra on. Considering the way the US is heading you might see people considering a "neutral party" in the war.

AWS is nice and all not unique though.
It's all written here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
What are “European values”? I was born in Europe, been here all my life, and I don’t think such thing exists - values that are shared among all Europeans AND that set us apart from other regions.

Europeans are much, much more culturally segregated than people from outside Europe seem to think.
A mixture of things. Dishonesty — which is broader than just "lying" — for one. One of Trump's talking points during the election was "never started a war", and now: https://theconversation.com/trumps-threats-on-greenland-gaza...

But also, people can change their minds between elections: https://eu.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2025/03...
"Not talking about politics" is one of the most profoundly political things you can do.
I guess you're referring to the Romanian candidate which was found to have millions of euros and tickets to Russia.

Yes, protecting democracy and peace also includes punishing those who put at risk the existence of peace and democracy.

For the war part, it kinda tickles your butt having a war on your neighbor's garden, I see nothing wrong with supporting such a war (on Ukraine side's, of course)
Why acknowledge anything when you can simply point to a scapegoat.
I wouldn't consider myself a "busy professional" when it comes to mailing, but I know a few people who have an email-heavy workflow, I am happy to forward a link along
From a UK perspective (and I'm not a CEO or anything) it looks pretty volatile over there. Tariffs, radical changes to government funding, widespread corporate overhauls... . Predictability is surely desirable when considering dependencies.
> Afganistan and Iraq was heavily debated

Also, not European wars. In particular, only two European countries participated in Iraq.
Tech is partially, some would say even mostly, responsible for the current political atmosphere and climate, so no, neither we are any better than this, nor should it be avoided.
Voter suppression: https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
The electoral college rigs the game. If one person equaled one vote, American government could look significantly different right now.
not an attempt at rebutting or so, just adding my thoughts:

It doesn't matter if the product is great because of those values if there is a lack product (bc politics and bureaucracy make it infeasible to produce). Makes you think if those values might contribute to the bad politics and bureaucracy. And if so, how.