skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> They aren’t even aware wealth inequality is the problem.

It seems like a symptom. Primarily because "wealth management" does seem to be a skill. So the expectation would be that even if you equalized all wealth tomorrow and suddenly educated everyone to the same level in it's management then in a very short time a large imbalance would again be created.

> but they aren't sure what it is or who to blame,

It's impossible to acknowledge that both of you are most likely equally wrong but just in different directions? If you worked together you'd get much further yet you can't even grant them basic personal agency. What a bummer. Inequality abounds.
Hope for what? Who would benefit?
Well, most of Elon Musks assets today are also not cash and highly dependent on the federal government going his way on key issues. He's certainly not dumb doing what he does if his goal is to get richer and more powerful. But unlike 200 years ago, we can watch live how that stuff plays out.
no, see the problem is that the machine needs a well defined problem, and the "BB(n) grows faster than any defined problem" is well defined but you would not come up with an insight like that by executing the BB(n) function. that insight requires a leap out of the problem into a new area and then sure after it is defined as a new problem you enter again in the computability realm in a different dimension. But if the machine tries to come up with insight like that by executing the BB(n) function it will get stuck in infinite loops.
Are you saying that borders shouldn’t exist because they’re man made?
The only thing that should matter is that the poorest segment of society becomes richer over time.

And it has (in inflation-adjusted terms, lower income Americans have become richer over many decades).
> But rather, under a punishing set of Kafkaesque rules, like someone was thinking only of computer programs, oops. "Gamified", with huge negative points penalties and everything. To be under threat of not getting paid at all.

I'm not defending these practices, but to share some context:

One of the problems with getting workers to review ML output is it's incredibly, unbelievably boring. When the task is to review model output you're going to hit the 'approve' button 99% of the time - and when you're being paid for speed, nothing's faster than hitting the approve button.

So understandably a decent number of folks will just zone out, maybe put youtube on in another window, and sit there hitting approve 100% of the time. That's just human nature when dealing with such an incredibly dull task - I know I don't pay attention when I have to do my annual refresher training on how to sit in a chair.

This sort of thing is a big problem for things like airport baggage scanner operators; pilots with their planes on autopilot; lifeguards; casino CCTV operators; and suchlike. There are loads of studies about this kind of stuff.

This makes getting good quality ML output reviews quite tricky. There are ways to do it, though, and you don't have to resort to negative income!
Three criticisms of Penrose's argument:

1. I don't think human reasoning is consistent in the technical sense, which makes the incompleteness theorem inapplicable regardless of what you think about us and Turing machines.

2. The human brain is full of causal cycles at all scales. Even if you think human reasoning is axiomatisable, it's not at all obvious to me that the set of axioms would be finite or even computable. Again this rules out any application of Gödel's theorem.

3. Penrose's argument revolves around the fact that the sentence encoding "true but not provable" in Gödel's argument is actually provably true in the outer logical system being used to prove Gödel's theorem, just not the inner logical system being studied. But as all logicians know, truth is a slippery concept and is itself internally indefinable (Tarski's theorem), so there's no guarantee that this notion of "truth" used in the outer system is the same as the "real" truth predicate of the inner system (at best it's something like an arbitrary choice, dependent on your encoding). Penrose is referring to "truth" at multiple logical levels and conflating them.

In other words: you can't selectively chose to apply Gödel's theorem to the situation but not any of the other results of mathematical logic.
Film wasn't always perfect either. A lot of early, pre-1950s cinema has been lost because the old nitrate film stock degrades over time. And can catch fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrocellulose#Nitrate_film_fi...
why should I give you my email to get this?
Yes, it would be so. In fact, if automation starts taking jobs from people on a larger scale, it would be a way to reduce economic inequality.

That concep/idea is called: Universal Basic Dividend.
As a person born in the middle class, I am quite sad to see it's extinction in realtime. Not sure what is the solution to this.
After the initial US allegations they moved their infrastructure and customer data over to Switzerland intentionally leaving them subject to both EU and Swiss customer data protection laws, and also opened up various hubs to enable interested parties to review their source code on demand, if desired.

I don't think every Russian company is conspiring against the US anymore than I think every US company is conspiring against Russia. In this case there's a clear and malicious motive for the US to want to block them that has nothing to do with threats, and they've gone way beyond any sort of reasonable standard to make it clear they have no ill intentions whatsoever.

Of course the problem is that proving you're not a witch is basically impossible, which is why innocent until proven guilty is a standard across the world, except when it comes into geopolitics when allegations are proof, leaving the accused parties to prove a negative.
> Think about young people trying to buy their 1st home now, its becoming impossible.

At least in Finland today it's much easier for young people to buy their 1st home now compared to 15 years ago. Interest rates are roughly where they were 15 years ago, but house prices in real terms have gone way down. There's also huge market asymmetry with large amount of vacant properties that nobody wants to buy, and relatively few buyers.
Penrose is claiming there is new physics which is not computable, but to my knowledge Penrose offers no experimental evidence for it.

> 11:43 but new physics of a particular kind what I'm claiming from the girdle argument you see this is the plot which

> 11:50 I think has got lost what I claim is saying that the physics that in is

> 11:57 involved in conscious thinking has to be non-computable physics now the physics

> 12:02 we know there's a little bit of a glitch here because it's not completely clear

>12:07 but as far as we can see the physics we know is computable you see uh what about general

link for 11:43:
https://youtu.be/biUfMZ2dts8?si=Epe3gmfCzwhj_g41

Without Penrose giving solid evidence people making counter arguments tend to get dismissive then sloppy. Why put in the time to make well tuned arguments filled with evidence when the other side does not bother after all.
I reiterate my point from the comments of the companion post. OP lost even while being represented by some of the best civil rights lawyers in the country.

A lot of FOIA requests die because they receive push-back and the requestor lacks the resources to litigate it. You can do it yourself. FOIA litigation is usually not like OP's struggle over data types -- it's usually just to get the court to smack the public body and tell them they are being lazy or overly strict and the court procedures are much simpler. (often the public body will fold as soon as you file)

Also, I wonder if @chaps can give his reasoning on going directly for litigation? In Illinois there is an alternate avenue where you can ask the AG to intervene. (I hate this route myself because it has become slow and toothless)
>Therefore, there is a function capable of transforming information into "thinked information", or what we usually call reasoning. We know that function exists, because we ourselves are an example of such function.

"Thinked information" is a colour not an inherent property of information. The fact that information has been thought is like the fact it is copyrighted. It is not something inherent to the information, but a property of its history.

https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/23
Why? Because they can buy cheap TV's at Walmart?

American households have a good amount of discretionary spending, but for the ticket items that actually matter such as quality housing, healthy food and healthcare my money stretches a lot further in Western Europe, for median household income that is.
Mortgages that were packaged into mutual funds that traded on the stock exchanges.

Meanwhile, the insiders who knew what was going on (that the packaged mortgages were super high risk) insured their risk through new financial products - specifically 'credit default swaps' marked by AIG. The gimmick there was that AIG designed the swaps in a way that avoided insurance reserve regulations - and thus AIG had no money set aside in the event of default.

So when the shit hit the fan taxpayers coughed up close to 200 billion dollars to cover the 'swaps' sold by AIG that were backed by ... nothing.

A fair number of billionaires rose out of the ashes of those shenanigans. None were ever charged. That's how 'capitalism' works in the gold old USA. Always has. Always will.
You may not care, and you don't have to, but certainly it means a lot to the Blender Foundation, who for 23 years have been actively working on something free & open-source, and now finally it is in the big leagues.

Just as Flow's win looks even more impressive when you look at the films it competed against, who produced them, and what resources they had, Blender has been a project competing for parity and to be taken seriously while remaining totally free, and going up against systems that are either wildly expensive or not available outside the studio that made it at all.

Flow is not good because it was made with Blender, but Blender is proven to be very good and in that top echelon because Flow was made with it. For those who make or use Blender, this is big. Those folks have already believed for years/decades that Blender was great and serious, but now a lot more people outside that circle will know this, too.
Okay now i want this. For some reason i keep imagining the hamster to look similar to the gopher in golang (obviously not blue)
Well yeah, European here so things might be a little different, but our family's budget for holydays was usually around 1500-2500$. As a result I've never travelled outside Europe. I've only flown to the Canary Islands twice and otherwise travelled by car. Big money saver. And also camping is cheaper compared to AirBnB and hotels. Though you can usually squeeze two weeks out of that budget.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_orbital_launch_systems

Smallest lunar lander so far is 200kg/440lbs, that's the weight of a carry on full of lead. Besides the Space Shuttle can't go higher or deliver higher than LEO anyway.
I assume people found it refreshing that for one there’s an animated picture that doesn’t just pour down your throat the same story rehashed for the 1000-th time, and spelled out by a committee to ensure it’s “easy to understand”.
This is basically what happened during the covid low interest mania.

Not realizing what had happened, in three years I went from "almost enough to buy a house in the city in cash" to "have to buy vacant rural wasteland then develop it myself from scratch."

The latter worked out, but cost me two years of my life of hard labor. Those two years of manual labor more or less represent what home owners took from non owners via the central bank.
Wrong. Small ruling class will own everything. And the majority will have nothing and no rights to have something. It has been tried before.
So, actually that happened once already, when the sowjet system broke:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voucher_privatization

The thing is, it began like you described - but most people didnt see the value in it and sold it immediately; thats the reason why you have some oligarch caste, as this mainly got fueled by this process (sure, not the only source of their wealth but the understood back then how to play the game)
It's code like this that ends in a terminal choco-banana shake hang:

http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/chocobanana.gif
Rough (not absolute) wealth equality is a goal in and of itself we want a capitalist economic system to function.

Capitalism only efficiently allocates resources if the market value of a good or service closely approximatatoon its "true" value to society. And that ceases to be the case when wealth is very unevenly spread.
Laborer coordination and workforce strikes.
I've made the extension, but I haven't been able to test it (hence I'd rather not release it). I use Claude daily, but I haven't bumped into the situation yet where the generated output would disappear.
You can get 500W solar panels for less than 40€ these days, so 150€ or so for 2000W. At German electricity prices, they pay for themselves very quickly!
It’s hard to understand this scenario at all. If everyone’s socks suddenly became worth a million dollars but nothing else at all changed, the price would immediately crash back down when the first person tries to sell them and can’t because no one is going to pay a million dollars for socks.
It's possible to stay in an Airbnb for longer than a week on that budget. But yes I think you have broadly understood what that means. I'm not an expert myself but it sounds about right to me. I would guess the fact it's shocking to you is an indication of how segregated society can be.
I sort of thought that was the whole point of the show: the humans live in a liberal utopia according to western progressives and the aliens are everyone else in the world they have to get along with.

It let the writers comment on contemporary issues with adjustable knobs for violence, sex, and laser beams, in hopes that the right cocktail could dislodge people from from their instinctive association with a political identity and let them learn something.
The US and Russia are the biggest nuclear powers in the world. Positive relations here are good for absolutely everybody. Positive relations do not mean one has to approve of the political system, ideology, or whatever else of the other side. See: Saudi Arabia which remained a key ally for many decades in spite of being wayyyyyy further off the spectrum (relative to the US) than Russia could ever be.

Overtly adversarial relationships trend towards violence, sooner or later, and that's not a path we ever want to go down.
They did not say the results were fabricated, but that they were misinterpreted. If you like being in the office, then your are gonna be more in the office than those who don’t like. It’s not being in the office that causes you liking being in the office, and thus if we force those who are not going in the office to go they will like it.
> My fear is that LLM generated code will look great to me, I won't understand it fully but it will work.

If you don’t understand it, ask the LLM to explain it. If you fail to get an explanation that clarifies things, write the code yourself. Don’t blindly accept code you don’t understand.

This is part of what the author was getting at when they said that it’s surfacing existing problems not introducing new ones. Have you been approving PRs from human developers without understanding them? You shouldn’t be doing that. If an LLM subsequently comes along and you accept its code without understanding it too, that’s not a new problem the LLM introduced.
I haven't seen the movie, but based solely on your comment, it reminds me of how Miyazaki films are often described—full of fantastical, otherworldly wonders that evoke the joy of exploring the unknown.
If the original comment would have been something like the following

> Natural progression of an industry. They tend to consolidate.

then I would agree with your criticism of my nit-picking.

But what we got was:

> Natural progression of an industry. It always consolidates.
Yes, society pyramid would be a flat line with a super thin needle-spike in the middle

Hate capitalism or not - it allowed more people to access / to possess something than communism or feudalism
> only absolute living standards.

Well the idea is that (correctly or incorrectly) lower inequality would result in significantly higher absolute living standards.

Arguably they had been going up at the pace they have over the last several decades almost entirely due to technological progress (and more arguably globalization/free trade).

Average productivity has been in increasing at a much faster rate than median or below median absolute living standards. Growing inequality is possibly the main culprit.

> looking in the other guy's cup

Well hard not to do that when the other guy has turned off the tap after filling his cup..
I don't know. But the original comment asserted universality:

> Natural progression of an industry. It always consolidates.
> In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony God's blessing, but because, I am enlightened by my own intelligence.
What happens at a lot of places:

Elastic license not on legal’s approved license list - need to get special approval from legal to use this.

Legal’s license list says AGPL needs case by case legal review - so need to get special approval from legal to use this.

Immediate thought: is there another solution which I don’t need special approval from legal to use?
Unfortunately Firefox is no real competition either. Most of their revenue comes from Google, ostensibly for making Google the default search engine but, in reality, probably to allow Google to avoid antitrust lawsuits by claiming they have a real competitor.
I’ve seen employee satisfaction surveys show certain unhappy groups getting happier over time. Which, of course they did, the unhappy ones left!
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/reindeer-may-not-be-ab... (I don't know if that means reindeer are able to distinguish it from other colors or if they're sensitive to it but ultraviolet-something-colorblind)
I think you are right there. However everyone has been endlessly told "everyone is equal" (and not just in the eyes of the law of the land) for decades now. So there will be enormous inertia. As Lee Kuan Yew said, "humans are an unequal animal", so there is hope that reality might eventually break-out in their minds.
Errors are a category of well understood and explicit failures.

Slop is the best description. LLMs are sloppy tools and some people are not discerning enough to know that blindly running this slop is endangering themselves and others.
On the other hand, it has been shown that financial education has very little effect on people living in poverty, but you know what has a big effect? Money, giving poor people money (not even large amounts) has the biggest and longest lasting effect on getting peoe out of poverty.

The notion that poverty is a character flaw and that poor people just need to be better with their money, is just propaganda so that it's more palable to cut welfare programs.

To see how ridiculous it is, you just have to think about the other ned of the spectrum, the most financially irresponsible people one can observe are typically some rich kids, does it have any influence on their financial/economic future?
This, for the sake of argument, is not an important distinction.
To be clear: the results are anonymised. The only thing that the people chasing you have direct access to is whether you filled in the survey or not.
US Treasury Department says it will not enforce anti-money laundering law
Road trips for families is how you stay on a budget. It’s easy to get hotels for around $100 a night that include breakfast if you stay out of world-renowned destinations.

A lot of vacations also involve crashing at another family member or friends spare bedroom/fold out couch.

I grew up with family vacations like this (inflation adjusted) and I had a great time. It’s hard to wrap your mind around when you think vacations require significant travel.
One thing I've found is that while I work with a LLM and it can do things way faster than me, the other side of it is I'm quickly loosing understand of the deeper code.

If someone asks me a question about something I've worked on, I might be able to give an answer about some deep functionality.

At the moment I'm working with a LLM on a 3D game and while it works, I would need to rebuild it to understand all the elements of it.

For me this is my biggest fear - not that LLMs can code, but that they do so at such a volume that in a generation or two no one will understand how the code works.
Crystallising his memory and mental processes
So you're saying I should actually want to increase inequality?

Obviously sarcasm, but taking your argument at face value this is what rational (not necessarily moral) citizen of europe/usa should think. For that reason I don't think this is a good argument.
I am sure you indeed do successfully use JetBrains to merge "the most massive conflicts". Good on you. I'm glad it works for you.

The mere fact you've even typed out the words "Anyone who has experience regularly(keyword) using both CLI and GUI for merge conflicts will side with me on this" makes you look like a child. This is how children speak.

>You probably worked with a trashy gui and likely didn’t use it too much.

You don't seem to be able to encounter someone that disagrees with you without immediately assuming they must be doing something wrong, lack experience, or be stupid.

Again, how hard is it to accept that people have different preferences? You are like those people on forums in the 2000s that argued that anyone that liked Ruby/Python was an idiot and obviously Python/Ruby was the far superior language. Anyone that disagreed obviously had never used Python/Ruby properly, and was obviously just a fanatic. I thought we moved past that stupid shit years ago.
You don't need to write all the tf upfront for existing resources.

Use `import` resources in a .tf file (I like to just call it imports.tf) and run `terraform plan -generate-config-out=imported.tf`

That will dump the tf resources - often requires a little adjustment to the generated script, but it's a huge time saver
You raise the best objection - indeed, we have no idea how consciousness/qualia could arise from physical processes, nor can we even non-circularly define what consciousness is [1]. But assuming it arises purely through physical processes of the human brain, there is no reason to think it could not be reproduced on a different substrate.

In other words, computing that feeling is equally mysterious whether it is done by neurons, or by transistors.

[1] There are attempts, like vague implications it has something to do with information processing - but that is not actually defining what it is, just what it is associated with and how it might arise. There are other problems with these attempts, such as the fact that the weather can be thought of as an "information processing" system, reacting to changes in pressure and humidity and temperature... so is it conscious? But that is tangential.
Do you realize that giving LLMs 'instructions' is merely trying to blindly twist knobs by random amounts?