> Stealing is not the right word perhaps, but it is bad, and this should be obvious.

Many people say things that they don't like "should be obvious"ly bad. If you can't say why, that's almost always because it actually isn't.

Have a look at almost any human rights push for examples.

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> For piracy, take switch games.

It's a bad metaphor.

With piracy, someone is taking a thing that was on the market for money, and using it without paying for it. They are selling something that belongs to other people. The creator loses potential income.

Here, nobody is actually doing that. The correct metaphor is a library. A creator is going and using content to learn to do other creation, then creating and selling novel things. The original creators aren't out money at all.

Every time this has gone to court, the courts have calmly explained that for this to be theft, first something has to get stolen.

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> If something is OK if only very, very few people do it

This is okay no matter how many people do it.

The reason that people feel the need to set up these complex explanatory metaphors based on "well under these circumstances" is that they can't give a straight answer what's bad here. Just talk about who actually gets harmed, in clear unambiguous detail.

Watch how easy it is with real crimes.

Murder is bad because someone dies without wanting to.

Burglary is bad because objects someone owns are taken, because someone loses home safety, and because there's a risk of violence

Fraud is bad because someone gets cheated after being lied to.

Then you try that here. AI is bad because some rich people I don't like got a bunch of content together and trained a piece of software to make new content and even though nobody is having anything taken away from them it's theft, and even though nobody's IP is being abused it's copyright infringement, and even though nobody's losing any money or opportunities this is bad somehow and that should be obvious, and ignore the 60 million people who can now be artists because I saw this guy on twitter who yelled a lot

Like. Be serious

This has been through international courts almost 200 times at this point. This has been through American courts more than 70 times, but we're also bound by all the rest thanks to the Berne conventions.

Every. Single. Court. Case. Has. Said. This. Is. Fine. In. Every. Single. Country.

Zero exceptions. On the entire planet for five years and counting, every single court has said "well no, this is explicitly fine."

Matthew Butterick, the lawyer that got a bunch of Hollywood people led by Sarah Silverman to try to sue over this? The judge didn't just throw out his lawsuit. He threatened to end Butterick's career for lying to the celebrities.

That's the position you're taking right now.

We've had these laws in place since the 1700s, thanks to collage. They've been hard ratified in the United States for 150 years thanks to libraries.

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> Everyone recycling? Good! Everyone reducing their beef consumption? Good! ... everyone pirating...?

This is just silly. "Recycling is good and eating other things is good, but let's try piracy, and by the way, I'm just sort of asserting this, there's nothing to support any of this."

For the record, the courts have been clear: there is no piracy occurring here. Piracy would be if Meta gave you the book collection.

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> In the context of humanity and pushing this to it's limits, we can't even begin to comprehend the consequences.

That's nice. This same non-statement is used to push back against medicine, gender theory, nuclear power, yadda yadda.

The human race is not going to stop doing things because you choose to declare it incomprehensible.

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> I'm talking crimes against humanity beyond your wildest dreams.

Yeah, we're actually discussing Midjourney, here.

You can't put a description to any of these crimes against humanity. This is just melodrama.

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> If you don't know what I'm talking about,

I don't, and neither do you.

"I'm talking really big stuff! If you don't know what it is, you didn't think hard enough."

Yeah, sure. Can you give even one credible example of Midjourney committing, and I quote, "crimes against humanity beyond your wildest dreams?"

Like. You're seriously trying to say that a picture making robot is about to get dragged in front of the Hague?

Sometimes I wonder if anti-AI people even realize how silly they sound to others