skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That + domestic social media protectionism
That's precisely why we'll never see it.
Same as me? Speak for yourself, I don't care about what might or might not happen, to avoid honestly dealing with what is happening. That they started doing this on a Friday night should tell you they know what they're doing, that is, that it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. That it "might be bad".

> It might be bad as well, but at least the news will be interesting.

For those who read nothing about the first half of the 20th century, sure. For them this is surely "interesting". But since you wouldn't like your harm to be someone else's entertainment either, that's not an argument for anything.
From the article:

> Hawley introduced the legislation, titled the Decoupling America’s
> Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act,
> on Wednesday of last year.

On Wednesday of last year you say.... hmmm what wrote this article
Submitted this a day ago and it got flagged: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42907234
Once you zoom into the individual maps, you can see that this is as close to Google Streetview as they could get at the time. It was surprising to realize it's basically the same thing.
I pasted the wrong link, corrected the above with .gov.sv domain .
Obligatory reminder that you have to copy and paste the JWZ link in a new window. If you click the link, your browser sends HN referrers, and you get a landing page with a mildly offensive image.
I guess it depends a bit on what you mean by subring?

If you go by the strict definition of subring, I'm not sure. But we probably also want to explore other constructions like quotient rings, where I know that we can say some things.

Eg calculating modulo some (given fixed) integer is a quotient ring on the integers.
why didn't you sue?
That quote is straight up wrong to claim Deepseek has "loathed to reveal their secret sauce".

The source of all the excitement is exactly how much they revealed, and I feel like that thread as a whole emphasizes why people who aren't deeply familiar with the pipeline should not get to define these things.

"Nick" claims the secret sauce is in something not provided, then posts an article that demonstrates the exact "secret sauce", seemingly not making the connection: https://www.interconnects.ai/p/deepseek-r1-recipe-for-o1

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There is a lot of detail about the nature of the data used and the exact steps needed to reproduce their findings with your own data. They even provide R1-Zero to demonstrate things that might be dead ends just in case someone can continue them. That should be enough to satisfy any useful definition of open source.

Even in the same thread you linked:

> Just a curiosity, according to the Model Openness Framework from the Linux Foundation, DeepSeek-R1 classifies as an Open Model:

> https://mot.isitopen.ai/model/1143

At the end of the day this is as good as it needs to be for LLMs: By their nature a lot of data being used to train them cannot or should not be openly shared, but the shape and motivations behind the data used are able to push others very far along the way to reproduction and iteration.
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It's been that way for about half a year now. There's a growing list of topics that will never make the front page anymore.

For the first time in over a decade, I've turned on show dead, skip the front page and go directly to the new feed for my tech news.
Please quote the actual headline if you use quotes. I clicked and was surprised by the headline being different.

Headline: (article is from 2020)

“I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There”
that's how funding used to work before the bureaucrats took control in the 1990's. it's no coincidence we mow have so much junk research
I hope there’s an Optimus like Robot development item in your backlog. Good luck with your endeavour.
I don't understand what you mean? Healthcare process efficiency is a "social" problem?
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Deepseekv3 was released in Dec. and already had really good non reasoning benchmarks and most of the inference cost savings.
Where can I download it as a zip file?
The IMF probably rightfully sees a structurally deflationary currency (bitcoin) as a massive risk should it gain widespread adoption
The whole fast charging thing and the massive amounts of energy that is being transferred has caused me to “see” afresh the crazy amount of energy that is transferred when we refuel an ICE car. I can recall as a child seeing stories about stations exploding from time to time - I just did a search and saw this report that says there over 5,000 station fires a year. https://www.hud.gov/sites/documents/stations.pdf

It easy to forget that refuelling is really dangerous - we just don’t think about it as it is normalised. I recall a gas station explosion being attributed to a man with a nylon jacket refueling and having a static discharge - I could not find that story but found this one with a video https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/watch-static-electricity-fir... of fire stated by static at a pump.

Here is a compilation about static caused fires at filling stations https://ehso.emory.edu/sso/documents/toolbox-training-static...

So I think that there is the potential for there to be a massive reduction in refueling fires by moving away from petroleum but as with any new form of mass behavior we are likely to find all the low probability failure modes for this new way of refueling.
I want my subcultures to be commodified. I want it to be easy for folks who are interested in the things I’m interested in to join in. I want there to be an efficient market with mass producers to get people started, and then tiers of progressively more artisan producers as folks get deeper into the things I enjoy.

That’s why it’s sad to me every time a producer closes up shop.
Well if I want to talk about inflation we have things like the Nazis, Zimbabwe, a long list of collapses that countries never really recover from. But if we look up deflation... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deflation#Historical_examples

EU - Still to see the long term consequences, but it isn't obvious the deflation was the bad thing in the story.

Hong Kong - Jewel of Asia.

Ireland - Very high HDI and GDP ppp per capita.

Japan - Economic success story.

UK - Can't argue that they're a success! But their problems after WWI wasn't the deflation.

US - Some good some bad, lots to debate, but the latest episode (Great depression in the 1930s) set them up to conquer the world and establish the Not-An-Empire they have now. If that is a bad outcome I fear the good ones.

I'm not seeing the Zimbabwe equivalent. In fact it looks a lot like deflation is associated with - if not a precursor to - long term economic success and prosperity.
Then they should take it to court, yknow, like one does with evidence in countries that have rule of law.
Hmm.. I didn't know that. Which makes the demand purely political then. I recall IMF making the same demand from an island country a few years ago too.

https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2021/07/26/blog-crypto...
The goal is to enable cronyism and corruption as well as undermine resistance to legally and morally dubious acts.
I think people mostly realized that the more immediate priority is establishing Bitcoin as an international reserve commodity. Its usage as a currency, either directly or via intermediary layers, is kind of secondary to that. Bitcoin is making pretty good progress in that regard.
> I often wonder why we spend so much time trying to justify certain research avenues over others and don't let people just research what they find is interesting.

Oh, that's just an artifact of using tax payer money to finance research. If you stopped that, you didn't need to mandate any such justifications.

(Though individual funders could of course try to demand any justification they feel is appropriate for their funds. Just like today.)
It doesn't need to, but it reliably does. The whole internet, and pretty much all English-speaking media, is talking about ONE THING. Trump. American politics. Elon Musk. There's a lot noise and very little else. People often don't discuss what's happening, they discuss what someone said, or as in the case of OP a bill that has no chance of being passed. They freak out about tariffs that are unlikely to ever be imposed for so many reasons, not the least of which is the tenable legality of claiming a natsec imperative to enforce them.

But people still focus on the words, the threats, the show, and they act like it's somehow a failure as a person or a citizen to not tear out your hair along with them. When the question of, "Ok, what can be done" comes up, there's a lot of vague or high-minded responses, and then it's back to to the races.

And the whole social media and media world is doing it. Why does HN have to? Will one more forum lowering its standards help in some way?
> bill that’s merely been proposed…

No harm in pulling down R1 right now anyway (which is what I might have done…).
The cult of personality would die though, with a considerable impact to the regime. We've been predicting the death of orange man for years considering his diet, and yes it's a miracle he's lived this long, but an often understated asset of his is that he doesn't drink an once of alcohol. That can help him survive way past his 2nd term, I think.
This is dumb. But I guess I shouldn’t expect any better.

Someone on LinkedIn posted how “dangerous” it was that AWS was going to make DeepSeek available and hosted on Bedrock because it would give China access to data. Not understanding that if it were hosted by AWS, China wouldn’t have access to the data.

This is like this bill where he doesn’t understand that if you “download” the model, you aren’t giving China access to your data.
It's likely in cold storage , but the tracker is using the wallet address.

For example, about 1 hour ago they bought 1m in BTC: https://bitcoin.gob.sv/tx/83ddfe67485d322e9c017d8ba6aee53d8f...

The address is : 32ixEdVJWo3kmvJGMTZq5jAQVZZeuwnqzo
GP didn't say he was a punk, he said he had long hair. I think you're reading defensiveness into it, all I saw was a reasonably interesting point.
Apologies, I am at the "embarrassed" by how early I am phase. I will update ASAP, but here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/@CodifyHQ

It's pretty much what the name indicates. A new medicare.
Legal tender does not have to be a mandatory means of exchange.
The GPL and AGPL are not restrictive: they ensure that you do not restrict your users.

Freedom looks like tyranny, to a tyrant.
The tariffs are about undermining the progressive tax system in the US and around the world (after retaliation the retaliating country's tax code gets less progressive) not China. That's mainly why they are being applied to everyone. Other reason is Trump can get favors and distractions on tap for negotiating each case.
What I need for the library is something that works for all values, not being range-limited.
Depends for what. What were Bukele's stated goals? Only with this in mind can we decide whether 8% is high or low.
Big thing is these documents shed MLK in a bad light...
Among the many reasons this could never pass: it would require extensive cooperation with the Senate minority (the majority holds control by just a thread, and not by enough move anything but reconciliation bills through) which isn't going to cooperate on anything resembling this.
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I'd read that blog post.

Historical minor quibble - formula correct for 1582 <= year <= 102499 (well, it's actually correct down to 1201, but the gregorian calendar didn't start until oct 1582... and then you get into the quagmire about when each country adopted the gregorian calendar, if they ever did)
The concerns are about adversarial foreign governments being able to silently target messages to highly-influenced demographics en masse.

I swear I have heard zero people opposed to the ban who seem to even be vaguely aware of that aspect which is the entire actual issue, and instead are completely confused and think it’s about spyware or hacking. Whether or not you agree with the ban, we need to actually be discussing the same underlying issue.
I'm not sure! It's certainly counterintuitive, particularly given that it is faster.
Back a few hundred years ago you could discover a new element just by boiling your own urine. (Specifically, that's how phosphorus was discovered.)

Nowadays you need intercontinental collaboration between research labs.

And that's not _just_ because of the bureaucrats.
You have ADD.
Then we remove upvotes and downvote entirely. Web2.0 online discourse (visibility is controlled by recommendation algos keyed on upvotes/downvotes) is fundamentally broken.
I’d like a failed experiment like this any day. It didn’t fail as an investment at all. People didn’t use it, that’s no surprise.
> nice to see how progressive and creative El Salvador has been

Alright so let's have a look at these progressive/creative approaches: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_El_Salvador

(a) Mass arrests of anyone who merely had a gang tattoo, (b) Jailing of children, (c) Security cameras everywhere, (d) Inhumane treatment of prisoners.

Trashing human rights is always effective but hardly creative nor progressive.
I use it. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless they've tried everything else first, which I pretty much did.

It slowly and grudgingly does what I want it to do, but my workflow is probably not anyone else's.
Speaking of Sovereign Wealth Funds...

Trump Calls for Wealth Fund in Executive Order
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/03/us/politics/sovereign-wea...
Regardless of whether you think of them as successful or failed, I don't think you can see El Salvador's policies as "progressive".
No joke, the bill is so broad that is essentially would ban mathematics research if the math could contribute to AI development in any way whatsoever. So, essentially all math...
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That would create a different forum. HN is an experiment in how long this kind of forum can ward off gravitational collapse. There are things fundamentally wrong with these kinds of forums, but that's true of every kind of forum.
Votes are a far bigger problem than flagging because it takes a pavlovian approach to what ideas are allowed. Flagging is important to remove spam and wholly inappropriate content. And if you revoke the ability of users who flag content based on a personal disagreement, that user simply loses that ability.
What? Why? Shouldn't those same use cases all be banned regardless of what tech is used to build them?
>The goal is to go after waste, fraud and abuse.

Why do you believe this? Because Elon Musk said so? Elon says a lot of outright false shit. So does Trump.
Haven't republicans been campaigning on reducing govt spending for like 50 years?

Aren't other countries adversarial enough?

I think these are made up concerns. By and large the US is dominant in the real world, and always will be given its size, location and cultural foundations. And that translates to being able to print and spent a large amount of money, which could be used to solve real world problems, such as:

- climate change and the need to transition energy, transportation over time with some urgency

- chronic housing shortage

- education costs

Instead they're focusing on fake problems and solutions that will make the real problems worse.
You're right, I know mutable and read-only are separates, I know I seen gcc and clang put static int and global int in the same page, and I know I heard people say global variables are on the heap thousands of times. I guess I forgot global writable data doesn't necessarily mean heap nor the read-only section of memory
There's a difference between trying to improve stuff and wrecking stuff with no concern for the law. The later is a lot easier.
Which programming languages are you going to use?
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There seems to be two concepts that are getting conflated. One concept is that BTC is a good investment. Historically that is undeniable.

The other concept is that it is a good medium of exchange. I think that is not so true because 1) its neither cheap nor easy to buy a lot of things with it 2) a thing that goes up in value is not a good medium of exchange because people don't want to spend it, they want to hoard it.

If you accept that BTC is a reasonable investment, but not a great medium of exchange then what is happening makes sense.

I am not saying that a decentralized token couldn't be a good medium of exchange -- honestly I don't know. But so far BTC is not that.
8% of people used it at least one time in an entire year.

In a place where people (who have on average very low incomes) were given $30 worth of bitcoin by their government just for signing up to a wallet app, so a very, very large proportion of the populous (compared to any other country on Earth) already had an app and wallet set up and ready to go. That's not a lot. That's a clear indication that the experiment simply didn't work.
> Congress has no ability to really intervene and monitor what's happening because these aren't really accountable public officials.

Congress gets to make laws. They can intervene by making a law that allows them to intervene, which is the job we elected them to do. Apparently they prefer getting bossed around instead.