skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You are right, but I cannot find a single example of such a ban actually being effective though. Information wants to be free and all that.
Yeah, #1 is way worse and #2 falls under “turnabout is fair play.”
R1 is trained for a context length of 128K. Where are you getting 8K/32K? The model doesn't distinguish "thinking" tokens and "output" tokens, so this must be some specific API limitations.
So EDN?
A lot of people who want to replace most human interactions with LLMs assume that there is some objective set of cultural values true in all contexts, and that it is good and easy to encode these as axioms into an AI.
This is interesting, (anecdotally) i have heard of people using nicotine patches for ADHD, and i've also (anecdotally) heard of ritalin etc being used to help people with CFG.
Not remotely the same, false equivalence. I don’t regularly need to add CPU instructions; I do regularly need to amend my tools.
I don't agree. You don't have moat if you are offering the same quality for a higher price.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_offshore_drillin... :

> In 2018, a new federal initiative to expand offshore drilling suddenly excluded Florida, but although this would be favored by Floridians, concerns remained about the basis for that apparently arbitrary exception being merely politically motivated and tentative. No scientific, military, or economic basis for the decision was given, provoking continuing public concern in Florida.[11]

Why not Florida?

> In 2023, President Biden signed a Memorandum of March 13, 2023 prohibiting oil and gas leasing in certain arctic areas of the Outer Continental Shelf (Withdrawal of Certain Areas off the United States Arctic Coast of the Outer Continental Shelf from Oil or Gas Leasing). However, in January 2025
> Or approximately as good but cheaper.

You're fooling yourself if you think OpenAI is going to pass up implementing the same strategies to get a ~27x cheaper model.

> Unlike a social network, network effects won't help them - their users don't care how many other users they have, only about the AI output quality.

Google Search doesn't have a network effect. Everyone on HN has been saying Google Search is complete garbage for a decade. It still has the same market share (roughly) as it did a decade ago.
>You know what happens to code that works? It ships.

That depends on how you talk about where you are in the process. If you tell people it is done then why wouldn't it ship?

>If you code out a solution to the problem in order to discover the problem space,

At this point I would say I have figured out the problem but am still coding the solution. Because that is actually where I am in resolving the issue, the solution is known but the code to resolve it isn't complete.
Now, hop in your time machine and do the A/B test.
If you can't translate your email into a foreign language, how is the AI going to rewrite your incorrect prose into correct prose? it's working on something incorrect. And then after the ai rewrites it, how can you tell if it's saying what you want it to?

When I'm communicating with a non-native speaker, I intentionally use shorter / easier to translate words and sentences, and I give them more leeway with word usage / don't expect them to use the right words all the time. And that's fine! Communication still happens! We manage!

But if a non-native speaker starts running their text through an AI it makes communication harder, not easier. I can't tell if their word choice is intentional or if the AI did it. A tiny mistake I can understand gets expanded into multiple incorrect sentences.
My (evidently mentally disabled) previous manager was so proud of being able to use AI to generate the bullshit he sent out to clients. What the morons are really doing is proving they're useless, let them.
Agreed. I think by now we know that telling people to "have more willpower" doesn't work. But some really want to make everything a moral failing, probably as a way to make themselves feel superior.
The article is all about the cost.
Crate professional awful music with AI that sounds as if it’s been encoded with LAME running on a potato
I completely agree. It takes a lot of resources. Again - it's all about the value it gives in return of what it takes. For me, it's worth it. For many others, it's not.
> it just runs out of context before it can really do anything

I mean, couldn't that be because they're just overwhelmed by users at the moment?

> And the output is very bad - it mashes together the header and cpp file

That sounds way worse, and like, not something caused by being hugged to death though.

Aider recently stated DeepSeek is placed a the top of their benchmark though[1] so I'm inclined to believe it isn't all hype.

[1] https://aider.chat/docs/llms/deepseek.html
So it is true, they run out of Data to steal? :-)

And then where DeepSeek steal from next? Do they steal from themselves? Do they steal the stolen models they stole from the stolen data?

The AI Ponzi scheme...
> max_tokens：The maximum length of the final response after the CoT output is completed, defaulting to 4K, with a maximum of 8K. Note that the CoT output can reach up to 32K tokens, and the parameter to control the CoT length (reasoning_effort) will be available soon. [1]

[1] https://api-docs.deepseek.com/guides/reasoning_model
I don't think we disagree at all, actually!

What I'm saying is that in the media it's being portrayed as if DeepSeek did the same thing OpenAI did 27x cheaper, and the outsized market reaction is in large parts a response to that narrative. While the reality is more that being a fast-follower is cheaper (and the concrete reason is e.g. being able to source training data from prior LLMs synthetically, among other things), which shouldn't have surprised anyone and is just how technology in general trends.

The achievement of DeepSeek is putting together a competent team that excels at end-to-end implementation, which is no small feat and is promising wrt/ their future efforts.
Bill Could Put a Stop to Censorship by Lawsuit (EFF)
also, China doing in IP what it's better at and way more experienced than USA - stealing.
Screw OpenAI, they scrape us without issues so someone scraped them. No issues with this.
He likes feeling important, just look at TikTok. All it took was bit of sycophancy and he turned into Mr. Freemarket again.

Really, people need to realize that Trump has never been consistent in any of his political positions, except for one: "You have to look out for number one."
Who is this for? I get it for hobbyists, but do you imagine it being used for...startups that...what, self-host AI? Where's support for the rest of OpenAI functionality? Where's assistants?
#1 destroys peoples willingness to publish and unfairly hogs bandwidth / creates costs for small hosters

#2 makes a big corp a bit angry

Indeed not the same thing
> are not the same thing.

You’re right. The second one is far more ethical. Especially when stealing from a thief.

Doesn’t Sam Altman keep parroting they’re developing AI “for the good of humanity”? Well then, someone taking their model and improving on it, making it open-source, having it consume less, and having a cheaper API, should make him delighted. Unless he *gasp* was full of shit the whole time. Who could have guessed?
I think people are looking for the term "freeware" although the connotations don't match.
If you've been set up by mutual friends, that means you have someone vouch for you. That means you're more likely to be safe.

A bad experience for you is a bad couple of hours and a few hundred hours. Ask a woman, what is a bad experience for them?
We knew about climate change in the 1880s.

There, fixed it for you.
wlroots appears to be the single ossified implementation of Wayland.
Slow news hour.
Yeah, I'm not paying for a week in the South Pacific to spend the whole time recovering from a cold.
Just sanity checking here - with flight write streams to duckdb, I'm guessing there is no notion of transactional boundary here, so if we want data consistency during reads, that's another level of manual app responsibilities? And atomicity is there, but at the single record batch or row group level?

Ex: if we have a streaming financial ledger as 2 tables, that is 2 writes, and a reader might see an inconsistent state of only 1 write

Ex: streaming ledger as one table, and the credit+debit split into 2 distanced rowgroups, same inconsistency?

Ex: in both cases, we might have the server stream back an ack of what was written, so we could at least get a guarantee of which timestamps are fully written for future reads, and queries can manually limit to known-complete intervals

We are looking at adding streaming writes to GFQL, an open source columnar (arrow-native) CPU/GPU graph query language, where this is the same scenario: appends mean updating both the nodes table and the edges table
Today these people hang out at private jet FBOs.
I remember my father saying something like “if this is all they got for news, it means pretty much everything is okay in the world”.
I see, so something you can't help is your fault. Nice look.
I ran across a thread once indicating that the guy who hosts that instance has a bit of a fight on his hands keeping it usable. Frequently fights hoards of bots, that sort of thing. Your signal probably got mistaken for some noise.

We need Nitter and BitTorrent to have a baby, p2p so we can share the load.
That takes me back! Fark.com would delete any comment that contained random hexadecimal.
I mean if they paid to use the api and then used the output, I fail to see how they can complain.
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42854278
I think a detached and distanced perspective must come to the conclusion that vendor lock-in isn't healthy. For security, performance or flexibility it tends to fall short sooner or later.

One could also talk about the relevance of a speculative attack that hasn't been abused for years. There can be multiple reasons for that, but we shouldn't just ignore the main design motivation of Apple here. That would be frivolous and that excludes serious security discussions.
this: https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/
Microsoft DocumentDB
> is the business model of a steel mill

It’s the business of commodities. The magic is in tiny incremental improvements and distribution. DeepSeek forces us to question if AI—possibly intelligence—is a commodity.
Yeah, I used to do that. I'd put bad actors into a randomly generated never ending link farm. I'd put a special link in my robots.txt and any bot that visited it, I would assume was a bad actor. This link was not accessible from any other location.

The results were striking, how many bots just stupidly tumbled down the random link rabbit hole. I'm not sure what they were searching for, but all they got from me was gobbledygook text and more links.
Do you know if there is a windows equivalent? I cant seem to find one that is as well done as this MacWhisper.
"It's obvious! You're trying to kidnap what I have rightfully stolen!"

Yet another of a series of recent lessons in listening to people - particularly powerful people focused on PR - when they claim a neutral moral principle for what happens to be pragmatically convenient for them. A principle applied only when convenient is not a principle at all, it's just the skin of one stretched over what would otherwise be naked greed.
This 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0CtZga7qM
Good for you! This is how it all starts. By adding foods back slowly you may start to find what foods are a trigger for gut inflammation and depression.

There is one medical diet, called the FODMAP diet you might want to look into. It helps you find what foods might be causing some bacterial in your gut to become imbalanced.

I am not at all saying it is all you microbiome, foods may affect us in so many more way than only in the gut. It may be that not eating has lowered oxidative stress in your body allowing your mitochondria to recover and are now able to provide the energy you need.
My guess is that you probably know what I'm going to write, but a lot of people don't realize this 'Gmail trick' doesn't really work.

The problem is that foo+bar@gmail.com and foo@gmail.com are delivered to the same inbox, so if you are trying to scam someone it is safe to remove anything after the + in a gmail address.

And having a custom domain on gmail doesn't improve your situation, because with just a simple 'dig mx' you can know if the domain is hosted on gmail and apply the same regex to remove all labels.

So, to be less inflammatory the feature works as expected. But it only protects you if the bad actor is really dumb/lazy or if he is honest.
I'm really surprised B&H has turned to this, they've been a very good retailer in my experience.
Why DeepSeek had to be open source
50% vested monthly for 4 years until August is only about 6%.
just for the chatbot, it's trivial to switch, create a new account and start asking questions from deepseek instead. There is nothing holding the users in chatgpt.
> You're fooling yourself if you think OpenAI is going to pass up implementing the same strategies to get a ~27x cheaper model.

But that would mean a 27x lower valuation.
I agree, (2) seems much less problematic since the AI outputs are not copyrightable and since OpenAI gives up ownership of the outputs. [1]

So, if you really really care about ToS, then just never enter into a contract with OpenAI. Company A uses OpenAI to generate data and posts it on the open Internet. Company B scrapes open Internet, including the data from Company A [2].

[1]: Ownership of content. As between you and OpenAI, and to the extent permitted by applicable law, you (a) retain your ownership rights in Input and (b) own the Output. We hereby assign to you all our right, title, and interest, if any, in and to Output.

[2]: This is not hypothetical. When ChatGPT got first released, several big AI labs accidentally and not so accidentally trained on the contents of the ShareGPT website (site that was made for sharing ChatGPT outputs). ;)
Since the time when companies en masse stopped paying cash dividends on owned shares, the value has become highly speculative. In the absence of dividend payments, the stock pricing mechanism is not essentially different from Solana or Ethereum "price" discovery.
Did not expect that from the NYPost tbh. Very disappointed. Thanks mate
Yep, something like spike protein that is more persistent than usual may provoke an inadequate immune response in the body, which is known to cause clotting, which is known to cause tissue hypoxia, which, in turn, is known to induce a mitochondrial dysfunction, starting the vicious cycle of pathology.

Chicken and Egg dilemma. We have a lot to discover and formalize. I do not say that you are not right, your suggestion is plausible, we have to find out.
GDPR is quite a sensible set of rules to be honest, if you want to understand the basics most of it comes down to

1) have a person you can contact in an organisation about your data

2) store people’s personal information as securely as if it’s credit card data

3) you have to be clear about what you’re doing with data from people in the EU and not store said data on servers outside the EU.

All seems reasonable to me!
Llama! I was wondering when you'd show up. We comment on all the same stories
They refer to this in the paper as a part of the "cold start data" which they use to fine-tune DeepSeek-V3 prior to training R1.

They don't specifically name OpenAI, but they refer to "directly prompting models to generate answers with reflection and verification".
So, if a man has a bad experience, they're out a few hundred bucks and a few hours, in general.

Ask a woman who trusts you about their worst experiences sometime.
actually idk if the idea is "great" but it felt like it at the time
there's plenty of money for both. fusion is too important to eschew
Selene Mini: Open-sourced SOTA small language-model-as-a-judge
WAF Playground using Zen (Aikido)
Hi! I'm a developer at Aikido. I built Zen for both Java and Python and created this demo app for you peeps to try it out! Go break some stuff lol.
I'm curious - is there a benefit to doing so versus using Apple's Hide My Email (or a similar service) or appending +service to a gmail email address? Completely ignorant on the topic so apologies if this is a silly question.
we're waiting for you Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are indeed a lot of spots for ads on the whitehouse
> 2. using the AI from #1 to create another AI

2. scraping the AI from #1 and making AI out of it
MySpace and Friendster both claimed ~115M peak users.

> It's literally orders of magnitude.

Sure, and the speed at which ChatGPT went from zero to a billion is precisely why they need a moat... because otherwise the next one can do it to them.

Your argument is like a railroad company in 1905 scoffing at the idea that airliners will be a thing.
The secret lab where America tests its nuclear weapons
So yes, it's a limitation of their own API at the moment, not a model limitation.
> The belligerents are not trying to disable agricultural systems or power grids; an actual war is a horse of a different color, and would likely be regarded as a proper escalation in the physical realm.

There have been any number of attacks on physical infra. and civil institutions that fit that description. Sandworm (a group in the Russian military) alone has successfully brought down power grids multiple times.
Yeah EDN is quite similar. Preserves has no nil, allows any value as a tag, gets into the weeds more on when strings are equal or not, doesn't distinguish lists and vectors, and doesn't require each kind of tagged element to define an equivalence. And it has annotations (vs EDN's comments) and embedded values.
> “It is (relatively) easy to copy something that you know works,” Altman tweeted. “It is extremely hard to do something new, risky, and difficult when you don’t know if it will work.”

The humor/hypocrisy of the situation aside, it does seem to be true that OpenAI is consistently the one coming up with new ideas first (GPT 4, o1, 4o-style multimodality, voice chat, DALL-E, …) and then other companies reproduce their work, and get more credit because they actually publish the research.

Unfortunately for them it’s challenging to profit in the long term from being first in this space and the time it takes for each new idea to be reproduced is getting shorter.
DeepSeek advances could heighten safety risk, says Yoshua Bengio
I wish was a more recognized process. Build a rough plan, then poke, and adapt.

http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/5335
US websites have been quite successful in fearmongering about it - either "oh no, the EU forced us to put this mess of annoying popups on our page" or "oh no, the EU forced us to block our own website from it"
I own a real Rolex. I inherited it from my Grandfather. What does that say about me?
This music is bad and the audio quality is even worse.
I had some electrolytes at first but ditched them on the third day. After that it was just plain water. If I had to do it again, I would take potassium and table salt throughout.

I did have friends and my girlfriend with me for a lot of it.

I didn’t do anything special to break the fast.
6 to 8 t/s is decent for a GPU-less build, but speaking from experience... it will feel slow. Usable - but slow.

Especially because these models <think> for a long bit before actually answering, so they generate for a longer period. (to be clear - I find the <think> section useful, but it also means waiting for more tokens)

Personally - I end up moving down to lower quality models (quants/less params) until I hit about 15 tokens/second. For chat, that seems to be the magical spot where I stop caring and it's "fast enough" to keep me engaged.

For inline code helpers (ex - copilot) you really need to be up near 30 tokens/second to make it feel fast enough to be helpful.
So to legally copy a website, all you need is to just pass it through an AI filter and then you can legally publish the rip off?
None of the modern chatbots that banks and online orders use are LLM based they are basically all low tech pattern matchers where they are given phrases to match on (utterances) with placeholders for the variable parts (slots) and then match those to intents. It’s in no shape form or fashion AI and accept for the voice to text part is 1960s technology.
Open source means the source code is freely available. It’s in the name.
> My latest job search made me want to create a startup that addresses this, by vetting both posters and users.

Was this not the sole premise of LinkedIn? Then they were acquired by the M$ and investors demanded ROI, and it turned out being honest (ie, demanding users to be honest in job postings and job applications) is not a profitable business model.
In DC you rent an apartment to spend time at the halls of power. You need someplace to sleep and keep your stuff. Not just lobbyists, but also senators and representatives do this.

You buy a home to entertain powerful guests.

The Conways famously purchased an 8 million dollar mansion during the Trump administration, IIRC. This stuff goes on all the time. If you pay attention to these stories, you can start to understand how power really works in the US.
Without downplaying their influence and ability to meddle in our politics, Israel is in the end an outpost of the U.S. empire. There's certainly nothing in our own record to demonstrate a strong moral objection to maiming children.
>will write a bill legalizing training on non expressly licensed data.

Which should be assumed to be legal already, even without the expressly written bill. Copyright maximalism is anti-human.
He meant that it's been around for a while and is relatively stable. Not that it's literally boring.
Such a cool GUI!
large portions of america are anti-intellectual but i truly fail to see how you could have missed that from movies
> whose publication or inappropriate possession is claimed to be illegal in the United States.

That's not the same thing as a number being illegal at all. Here, watch this:

> I claim breathing is illegal in the United States

There, now breathing is claimed to be illegal in the United States.
> if you actually suggest measures to force that people (correctly) notice it would reduce their standard of living.

I guess people are different, the less I have to travel the higher my quality of life. Excluding the US, where things are just further apart, I do wonder why people need to move around so much. More and more jobs barely require you to leave your house. I know that the Danish government is proud that Denmark has a highly mobile workforce, meaning that we're willing to transport ourselves relatively far for work, which is a weird thing to be proud of, knowing how much that pollutes.
that wasn't meant to be dismissive of stress or burnout

just to be clear, i knew it wasn't.

why do doctors always assume stress is work related? Work is fine, but have you looked at the world

oh absolutely so much. i hide in my work when i have stress at home. i can think of two factors. as far as the world is going, most people don't care enough about it to let that stress them, so they do't even see it. myself i avoid stress from world affairs by actively working on making things better (within my means, by showing my friends and neighbors that there is hope yet for the future). but there is also stress at home, and that seems to be also overlooked. i think the reason here is that the doctors are not trained to deal with that and also don't want you to come to them to handle your family problems. there are other trained professionals for that. though personally it would really be nice if we had a family doctor who not only deals with physical but also mental health.
My point was that it's capitalists that want this, not that its a good choice for them long term.
Medication. ADHD is one of those few conditions which s eminently treatable with medication and a >90% success rate.
It was the beginning of the end for Digg, too, IIRC. Started a lot of people leaving for Reddit, right?