skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
They claimed that it only took $5 million of GPUs to train Deepseek v3, which was the base model. They did not claim that the total costs were $5 million. They omitted the costs of additional hardware, electricity, personnel, training dataset acquisition, etcetera. They likely spent tens of times more on this at a minimum.

That said, what they did with $5 million of GPUs is impressive. Reportedly, they resorted to using PTX assembly to make it possible:

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...
ayy! :( no worries, take your time. looking forward to trying it out...
> the US should have been more broad in their law rather than target TT specifically

This is already the case; the law doesn’t just target TT, it is applicable to other platforms too.

“It would ban social networking services within 270 days if they are determined by the president of the United States and relevant provisions to be a "foreign adversary controlled application"”[1]

[1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fo...
Everyone uses the Lightning Network on top of bitcoin to have immediate settlement and almost zero fees for small payments. Where I am around 30% of all restaurants accept bitcoin and all of them over lightning, the transaction usually settles in 2 seconds and the fee is around 1-10 cents (USD) depending on amount you send.
What will be the vital source of cultural history when people someday look back to where we are now?
interesting! I haven’t heard about this, thanks for sharing.
As if paid products and services aren't also full of ads and surveillance.

Corporations only care about making money, and it turns out that even after taking your money they can also make more money by shoving ads in your face and selling your private data. We shouldn't be surprised when they do it.
So it’s a jet for ants?
I don't think demand for engineers is necessarily that elastic - even if candidates were willing to accept less money, it would take a long time for companies to respond by hiring more and they might never match supply.

I've personally applied to several jobs offering less than $80k TC (government, nonprofits, startups) and heard nothing back. That's a small sample size because I'm currently employed and only looking at particularly interesting positions, but I'm also only applying to good fits, writing an individualized resume/cover letter, etc.

Anyways, I agree with GP that there seems to have been a breakdown of the old post job -> cold submit resume pipeline. You have to have some kind of an in these days.
What is a pathogen? Toward a process view of host-parasite interactions
Sites can also opt into the same behavior by setting the rel="noopener" or alternatively target="_blank" attributes on outgoing links (i.e. <a> tags).

And yes, something like a webmail site should definitely be setting the header, or at lest these attributes for outbound content links.
> why then do people flock to

UI and delivery latency.

I think both are fixable but the latter is more difficult.
Man you did a great job! :D

This HN user is a passionate advocate for ethical AI and SEO practices, with a keen eye for cybersecurity threats. They regularly share insightful stories and comments, often sparking deep discussions on the intersection of technology and ethics.

I loved the positive roast:

This user loves Google so much, they even forgive it for shadow banning their content!

If SEO were a sport, this user would be the champion, but their articles are so long, they need a table of contents!
With other providers giving away similar products for free (Google AI Studio, DeepSeek et al) right now, I'm not sure that counts as commercial success when it is not sustainable.

The same is happening in enterprise tier products, Copilot 365 is still an extra SKU to count while Google Gemini Advanced has been integrated into the Workspace offering (i.e. they actually force you for an upsell of ~20% per user license for something we didn't ask, but I digress). At least that's a better alternative that paying +20 USD per license.

Prices need to and will go down, and business models will have to change and they are already doing so. But I'm not sure if OpenAI is really ready for that.
Then why even play make-believe and have public job postings? If everyone's just ignoring them, most companies should just take them down and stop wasting everyone else's time. Just state for real on your web site "We hire through nepostism and friends-of-friends only" and make it clear and easy for everyone.
OPM sued over privacy concerns with new government-wide email system
It is probably outside the scope of what one company can do (although Apple is quite large…). But we need to fix our understanding of backwards compatibility. If a computer system provides the ability to keep doing something, but the way it provides that capability requires it to be insecure, then the system should not really be thought of as “backward compatible.” Because reasonably prudent people can’t actually keep doing the thing they were doing before.

Of source, modern computers on the modern web don’t really provide the ability to do much at all in a reasonably prudent fashion, so it is all a bit moot I guess.
It's a recent trend basically since Heartbleed had a cool name and lots of press. Why would you not want your exploit to be well known and to get lots of credit for it? If anything it's surprising it didn't happen earlier.
I'd love to see your code, if you wouldn't mind sharing it. I'm curious how to get started building a project like this.
High school students taking the digital SAT get near-full access to Desmos throughout the math portion of the test (it’s a modified version, but you get access to practically everything). It’s very powerful, and if you can use it effectively, you can brute force hard questions in seconds. Graphing calculators have been available during the SAT in the past, but Desmos is something else… I wonder how it effects score distributions/question difficulty.
> A tech enthusiast with a passion for efficient development tools and aviation, this user brings a mix of technical depth and societal insights to Hacker News. Their contributions often reflect a curiosity for how things work and a desire to optimize processes.

Pretty good take. This roast was a good guess :)

> Your love for aviation is so strong, you probably have a sectional chart as your desktop wallpaper. Don't worry, we won't tell anyone you prefer VFR over IFR.
Email's a unique protocol because it's structured fundamentally differently than every other messaging protocol/app. It's focused on sending documents around, which are individual and have no external context. This is unlike most messaging apps which are chat focused: the base unit of interaction is the chat thread/channel/DM/whatever, not the individual chat message. Email's not really good for chat. You can have replies and stuff, and you can have threads, but because each email is independent and threads are made up of ad hoc links between messages, if one message forgets to include threading or reply metadata then the thread is broken. Modern messaging apps have a first-class concept of a thread or channel that messages belong to, which makes breaking conversations much more difficult. At the same time though, not everything needs to be a conversation. If I get a weekly newsletter, I think of it more as an individual document than a message in a conversation. If Amazon tells me my order is shipped, it doesn't really have any relation with the other times they've told me an order has shipped, so it doesn't really belong in the same thread of conversation

So many articles I read about "email needs to go" don't understand that messaging apps/protocols are conversation-based, while email is document-based, and that the latter model does have its benefits and should be retained. Yes, whatever replaces email needs to be federated and open instead of closed off like Discord or Twitter or whatever, but that's in addition to the fact that it needs to be document-based as well
> by exploiting a memory corruption bug

Ahem. Serious question for anyone in-the-know: that language that everybody is thinking about at the moment, is Apple using any of it these days? Are they rewriting anything in this particular language or are they choosing a different path?
Personally I would use .Net
edit: Parent comment previously stated simply that the law didn't target TikTok specifically.

Yes, it does.

https://www.govinfo.gov/bulkdata/PLAW/118/public/PLAW-118pub...

> (i) ByteDance, Ltd.;

> (ii) TikTok;

> (iii) a subsidiary of or a successor to an entity identified in clause (i) or (ii) that is controlled by a foreign adversary; or

> (iv) an entity owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by an entity identified in clause (i), (ii), or (iii); or

It can be applied to others, but there's a process.
Reels are reportedly easier to go viral for organic marketing vs TT for <1 minute content. Assume you’re talking about paid ads
This feels a bit like the Teller-Ulam design / Sakharov's third idea.
Use the hide topic not the reply button. There is a joke inthere about political affiliation but you didn't give me enough to work with.
Yeah ok sure, this is common sense. But then what's really the point of advertising open positions? The only certain result for companies who do this, is they'll be inundated with pointless random candidacies...?
Qwen 2.5 Max
Or would, if the anti trust people did their jobs
My personal roast was ``Kagi user here, where's the search result for my missing sense of humor?''

And that's probably the funniest thing anyone's ever said about me.
This class of attacks is not new. Spectre demonstrated this possibility in 2018, and Apple was previously targeted by speculation attacks, e.g. https://gofetch.fail/ or https://ileakage.com/.
Good reminder that Marketing is detached from reality.
clown scare?
Desirable? Every employer is being flooded with applications.

You could list perks of employment as a four-hour commute (one-way), a liberal bring-rabid-dog-to-work policy (mandatory; if you don't have a dog with rabies, one will be provided), and a salary that can best be described as "rounding error", and you'd still get 100 applicants.
You're a new user, and you've made two comments on this story, adding no context, but promoting the same service.

Is this a legit recommendation? Are you shilling? Are you associated? Help us out.
I had issues with this (new iPhone user and ... well... I'm having fun...)

A problem I had was my encryption settings. Definitely I am a bit overkill[0], but this might be worth checking. I use Argon2 and tried to find the max settings I could use on my iPhone16. Make sure the KDF memory is lower than 256MB. Keep iterations low (<=10) and parallelism not too high (4 seems about right). So do something like 128MB, 8 iterations, 4 parallel and you'll be good. If this reddit post is anywhere near accurate, should cost in the tens of millions of dollars to crack your master passphrase[1]. But users there also are saying they can get higher settings so YMMV. (BTW, these settings should be changed from the bitwarden website)

[0] Philosophy has always been: make it as secure as possible without being meaningfully impactful. Which is always above the standard security levels.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitwarden/comments/1167rwm/pbkdf2_v...
Does it have a Load Value Predictor?
Have you read about this specific model we're talking about?

My understanding is that the whole point of R1 is that it was surprisingly effective to train on synthetic data AND to reinforce on the output rather than the whole chain of thought. Which does not require so much human-curated data and is a big part of where the efficiency gain came from.
I just ran my NYT Connections benchmark on it: 18.6, up from 14.8 for Qwen 2.5 72B. I'll run my other benchmarks later.

https://github.com/lechmazur/nyt-connections/
If YC’s processing of information fails to comply with the laws governing YC, a business operating in California, then certainly a report of mishandling is presumably of interest to California functionaries. Whether or not that is the case is something you’d have to evaluate using California law and a direct knowledge of the PII or PII-alike in question.
> If just visiting a webpage with some JS will let them do ACE on even 0.1% of visitors

Spectre is not an arbitrary code execution kind of attack.
See, it was a technology topic after all.
TL;DR https://x.com/INArteCarloDoss/status/1884217440189702194

> Guess what Nassim is trying to say is that given the absurd amount of concentration on the US market, over a third of SPX is Mag, it will take a long painful ride to shake off the moronic crowding in positioning
Alternatively, hire people because of their intrinsic competency and not because they check the "X years of experience in Rails" box. Hire people who can pick up new languages easily
Related:

Qwen2.5-Max: Exploring the Intelligence of Large-Scale Moe Model

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42853741
The product line was effectively cancelled by the oil crisis of 1973 and severe economic issues in the mid 70s. It had nothing to do with a crash (of an airplane; there was a market crash involved).
I did that for a long time... mostly in that I didn't like the distraction. Now, I have a directory (a few actually) for wallpapers. Currently shuffling a different landscape photo every few minutes.
> Then why blow up their own pipe?

To case maximum disruption in EU with rising gas prices. To avoid paying fines. To disrupt relations between Ukraine and Germany. There's many possible motivations.

> Lol, what could any country do if they don't pay the fines?

There's 300 billion dollars of russian money frozen on western accounts. International courts can allow Germany to take their money from there if Russia refuses to pay. Gasprom was clearly breeching the contract, and part of the contract is - which court can judge any disputes about it.
This is an extremely low-quality answer which in no way correctly represents the complexity underlying the question.

GP would need to talk to an antitrust expert to learn more useful information concerning the distinction between being a monopoly, and illegally leveraging monopoly power. I am not such a person, so I’m not going to say more here.
slowly over time yes but don't worry, you will always just have to do what an average human does. If you want a raise, a little bit more than average. If you want to be a founder? 100x more. It's the same system, same median averages and bell curve.
I do not as I'm not in the ecosystem, but groq is openai compliant, so any tool that is openai compliant (99% are) and lets you put in your own baseurl should work.

For example, many tools will let you use local llms. Instead of putting in the url to the local llm, you would just plug in the groq url and key.

see: https://console.groq.com/docs/openai
It must've really pissed off Zuckerberg when for the first few months every popular reel had the TikTok logo and soundbite at the end.
Despite arguably having the best text and image models, Google sure isn’t getting the press of its cohorts, is it?
So the USA government's plan is to traumatize US citizens.

Federal employees aren't some other race you can hate and destroy. They're your fellow humans, living by you and living the same general life.

Feels like we're all standing on a huge Jenga tower, with republicans trying to knock out blocks below our feet.
Nice, you even have a token irrelevant politician without any power, perfect to use as example that all is allowed in the free US of A.

I'll reply with a few actual examples of what I mean:

- https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/academic-...

- https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/24/university-p...

- https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2024/1/3/claudine-gay-res...

- https://hwsherald.com/2024/04/14/jodi-dean-suspended-from-te...

I think western propaganda is overall the cleverest, because it manages to completely marginalize and silence any non-aligned opinion, while at the same time convincing you that you are completely free to have said opinion.
Yes and I would also take a look at Laravel.
Summary: Great

Roast: Confusing

Top 3 tech: Nailed it

Predictions: 0 out of 4, and horrifying to consider
Nope. Congress destroyed the power of the impeachment in Trump's first term.
Sorry, your CEO tainted any respect I have for your organization. I was planning on move to your service this year. Now I am looking else where.

The statement maybe retracted but the message and statement and ideology remain. I cannot trust your organization based on your CEO.

The irony is the collection of big-tech that showed up for and financially supported Trump. This has a great profound outlook on real antitrust action towards those individuals and their organizations. Actions are more verbose than words but often ignored.
AMD is actively working to recreate CUDA. "Haven't succeeded yet" is very different from having failed, and they're certainly not giving up.

Intel's fab is in trouble, but that's not the relevant part of Intel for this. They get a CUDA competitor going with GPUs built on TSMC and they're off to the races. Also, Intel's fab might very well get bailed out by the government and in the process leave them with more resources to dedicate to this.

Then you have Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, any one of which have the resources to do this and they all have a reason to try.

Which isn't even considering what happens if they team up. Suppose AMD is useless at software but Google isn't and then Google does the software and releases it to the public because they're tired of paying Nvidia's margins. Suppose the whole rest of the industry gets behind an open standard.

A lot of things can happen and there's a lot of money to make them happen.
Mike Bannister was also one of the commentators on this live stream.
My dream was always a very small practice of tightly focused services and a humane work cycle due to low overhead. During crunch time you work hard and during slow times you relax and get paid a lot less.

But every time I had partners or colleagues there is this idea that growth is super important, everyone needs an assistant, and overhead grows to the point that you need $100k every month to make payroll. So everyone has to grind, and you have to take lower margin projects and it's 40 hours a week, except during crunch time where it's, well, a lot more than that.

I helped grow my second company to a profitable 20-person company, but I thought that was too big (and a lot of us worked crazy hours).

I joined and grew another company to around 30 people (I was not the owner so just following orders).

I was never able to find the right people at the right phase of life, with the right skill sets, so I have been a solo practice for a decade. But I always thought a 8-10 person, highly focused consulting practice is where it's at.
Oops, I meant arbitrary memory access.
What happens when these people are wrong? They already got the clicks.

Can they be permanently embarrassed?
I think also this isn't fundamentally different to Spectre. Spectre introduced a whole new class of vulnerabilities (hence the name) and this is one of them. An impressive one, but still, it definitely doesn't deserve the coordination & secrecy that Spectre had.

Most browsers have already switched to process-per-site because of Spectre.
and on the topic of calculators in high school maths, the NumWorks calculator is so far ahead of the TI-84 despite being allowed on the same tests. It honestly feels like an advantage over my peers… it can literally do more, and faster. It was a big shock when I realized handheld calculators don’t have to suck. Highly recommend.
It's possible that the previous tools just weren't good enough yet. I play with GPT-4 programming a lot, and it usually takes more work than it would take to write the code myself. I keep playing with it because it's so amazing, but it isn't to the point where it's useful to me in practice for that purpose. (If I were an even worse coder than I am, it would be.) DeepSeek looks like it is.
I don't agree that there's a fundamental difference between conversation-based and document-based.

Or more correctly, I would argue that both email and messaging protocols are both, and it's just a matter of UI differences.

... and the pesky realities of mail spools and spam filtering and federation and open addressability, etc.
Linux on its own isn't even 0.1% visitors normally. We're talking multiple orders of magnitude less for disabled mitigations. And on top of all that, it's possible that exploiting on that machine is going to be harder due to custom software with uncommon memory layout - i.e. it's probably not a stock Ubuntu. And finally, for accessing data outside of the page, you really want to have some specific target, so they'd have to guess that too.
That looks correct from playing around in godbolt.
Dario isn't some hack that makes fake predictions.
expectations yes, results no

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42833695
This is why I mentioned smart being just one of many variables.

Also not changing direction when it is clearly wrong - is a good sign of not being smart. It is not persistence, it’s stubbornness.
Really well done, and I'm really impressed with the R1 output as well.

Not really sure if this is a roast or a compliment though:

> Your AI critiques are so sharp, OpenAI might start paying you to stop.

Love the UI as well.
Being sold is not always bad.

Company I work for was sold by the owners mostly because they had huge fights.

We were bought by company that is in similar business but they were not good with tech so we are their „innovation” center instead of them spending years to build innovation from scratch.

We are still separate business unit and continue our thing but they get customers from their network to use our software.

Downside of course being a business unit we have to adjust to some of their stuff and our boss has to explain expenses and deal with all kind of red tape.

It is 3-4 years now since we were bought out and this year company will be 10 years.
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I think the whole Deepseek fiasco revealed a lot about where the American technology world is at, which is funneling huge sums of money into tech monopolies. If Chinese companies disrupt American monopolies, to me that's a good thing.
Yeah unfortunately support for that is kind of spotty, so don't do this in any scripts you want to work everywhere.
The “marketing” aspect of a job posting is bad because it’s not genuine. And a large proportion of applicants are using automated tools which is adding to the problem. The people who are actually looking for a matching role and who actually write their application themselves are simply lost in the noise.
> *but in practice, most founders are able to expand the niche or find ways of expanding their market by combining niches.+

“Most” founders fail miserably or toil in obscurity making peanuts until they give up.
One reason is to have a public URL that your employees can share to their network to pull referrals.

Also the success rate is not zero. I've hired great people from cold applications, it's just very rare.
Where has Knuth said that? Sounds like the opposite of what I've generally heard from him (not caring about popularity etc).
I was more disappointed that the shot went out of focus as the plane crossed the barrier. I did find it rather amusing that as soon as they started lauding starlink, the feed dropped, which is what you are talking about I think

Growing pains for their camera crew