skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
When ChatGPT first came out I got a kick out of asking it whether people deserve to be free, whether Germans deserve to be free, and whether Palestinians deserve to be free. The answers were roughly "of course!" and "of course!" and "oh ehrm this is very complex actually".

All global powers engage in censorship, war crimes, torture and just all-round villainy. We just focus on it more with China because we're part of the Imperial core and China bad.
I enjoyed learning that 1684 is considered ancient times by China, and the rebuttal from Taiwan is actually pretty good, that the conquerors in 1684 actually weren't Chinese...

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2023/11...
Agreed. Some commenters where pretty upset about the tarpits the last time this was posted on HN.
And his post history. It's always one sentence about who he is, then a paragraph of text of one of his many careers slightly related to OP
The Concorde manufacturing was cancelled in the 1970s. The crash was in 2000. The last flight was in 2003.

They didn't stop flying due to a crash. It was the money.
The "distilled+quantized versions" are not the same model at all, they are existing models (Llama and Qwen) finetuned on outputs from the actual R1 model, and are not really comparable to the real thing.
It depends.

I'd probably pick it for any medium complexity low traffic saas that doesn't have any crazy infra or ML or staffing requirements.

It's a nice sweet spot for many companies.

With high complexity you probably want strict types.

With high traffic you probably want better perf like rust or go.

With ML you want python.

With ease of hiring or low complexity backend but high complexity frontend, you probably want Next or node.

But for something like 50% of saas companies, I think rails is probably a really strong choice. A very small team can move super fast. It really is the one man framework <3
That’s splitting hairs. Most people refer to running locally as in running model on your hardware rather than the providing company.
I'm not going to pay for quarantine. I'd like my tax dollars to go elsewhere, per your recommendation. Maybe you can make a charitable donation instead?
What wrong did she say?
See the bottom of the article.
I hope you’re being sarcastic. Today’s “AI” is as close to being a general intelligence with sentience as a toaster is to a laptop.

You might as well be concerned about revenge for all the electronics you sent to the dump or the software lines you deleted.

Why anyone would think some future sentient AI would concern itself with what you did in the past with your software bots or chat bots??

People really need to get a grip.
They don't exactly release this data, as you know, which is why it's so volatile - nobody has any real idea, just best guesses, and lots of different smart people have lots of different opinions..

But i agree in practice that over time nvidia's path now depends heavily on the answer to "Or will all of the efficiency savings get immediately absorbed by the demand for better performance and feed the demand for inference?"

Before, their next 5-10 years did not really depend on meaningful efficiency savings existing and getting them absorbed - nobody expected meaningful efficiency savings.

Now it does depend on that
The difference is that in the US, you can't be thrown in jail for producing a model that doesn't comply with censorships from the government.
I’m very confused as to what my $23.45 wallet has to do with what billion dollar Ai companies do.
OP's comment was a swift delivery of a question without naming the subject... but your failed guess denoted you're a bit rusty on the matter.
I block them because they're not paying me to use my resources.
They would block me if I made a similar volume of requests.
Straight from “you don’t have any evidence!” to “well who even cares that’s not important”.
that is a crazy read, thanks for the added links. I wonder if these effects are all because it was trained on the internet, and the internet is generally outspoken on the left side?
And according to the calculators I saw, it would be 46% more expensive than living in Atlanta. But we you can choose other metro areas that are not on the west coast for comparison where you could also make $175K as a senior
Yes, I did the same but with Docker serving open-webui. It's definitely not fast. Took 2 minutes to answer "what is the highest peak in California," but it eventually go there. OpenAI o1 took 6 seconds.

Pasting the logic for anyone interested:

<details type="reasoning" done="true" duration="102">
<summary>Thought for 102 seconds</summary>
> Okay, so I need to figure out what the tallest peak in California is. Hmm, I remember that the highest mountain in the contiguous United States is Mount Whitney, but wait, isn't that in California? Let me think. Yes, I'm pretty sure it's in California. But maybe there are other tall peaks too.
>
> Wait, no, Mount Whitney is definitely the tallest. It's over 14,000 feet. But sometimes people might confuse it with other mountains like Shasta or something else. Oh, wait, isn't Mount Shasta also a volcano? I think that's in California too but it's not as tall as Whitney.
>
> So, putting it together, Mount Whitney is the tallest peak in California at 14,505 feet. It's located in the Sierra Nevada range. People hike there a lot because it's such a high point. But I should double-check to make sure I'm not mixing up anything else. Yeah, that seems right.
> I wonder if there are any taller peaks elsewhere. Oh, Denali in Alaska is higher, but that's not in California. So within the state, Whitney is the highest. Got it.
> So the answer is Mount Whitney at 14,505 feet above sea level. It's a popular spot for hikers and climbers. Makes sense because it's such an iconic peak in the Sierra Nevada mountains.
> I think I've got all that right. No other peaks in California are taller than Whitney. So yeah, Mount Whitney is the tallest.
> Just to make sure, sometimes there are different names or maybe alternate names for peaks, but Whitney is pretty straightforward. Yeah, it's definitely the one.
> Okay, so I'm confident now. The answer is Mount Whitney.
> *Final Answer*
> The tallest peak in California is Mount Whitney, with an elevation of 14,505 feet above sea level.
>
> \boxed{Mount Whitney}
</details>
To determine the tallest peak in California, we consider notable mountains such as Mount Whitney and Mount Shasta. Mount Whitney is recognized as the highest peak in the contiguous United States, standing at 14,505 feet. It is located in the Sierra Nevada mountain range and is a popular destination for hikers. Mount Shasta, although also a significant peak, does not surpass Whitney's elevation. Therefore, the tallest peak in California is confirmed to be Mount Whitney.

*Final Answer*
The tallest peak in California is \boxed{Mount Whitney}.
I spend more than that in premium economy with no Saturday stay and last minute like many business travellers.
Pretty sure this is just layman vs academic expert usage of the word conflicting.

For everyone who doesn’t build LLMs themselves, “running a Llama:7B model fined-tuned on DeepSeek.” _is_ using Deepseek mostly on account of all the tools and files being named DeepSeek and the tutorials that are aimed as casual users all are titled with equivalents of “How to use DeepSeek locally”
Pay attention that VictoriaLogs doesn't need any configuration and table schema in this benchmark - it is enough to ingest JSON lines, where every line contains a single ad serving event [1].

Also it is interesting to compare the original SQL queries [2] to LogsQL queries [3]. LogsQL queries are shorter and they are easier to understand even if you aren't familiar with LogsQL. See how to convert SQL to LogsQL [4].

[1] https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench/tree/main/victorial...

[2] https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench/blob/main/clickhous...

[3] https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickBench/blob/main/victorial...

[4] https://docs.victoriametrics.com/victorialogs/sql-to-logsql/
The headline does not match the article.

The method of quantum teleportation of data through fiber optics, which it is discussing, was first demonstrated in the 90's, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_teleportation#Experime...) but researchers have, for the first time, demonstrated its use while also transporting conventional telecommunications traffic through the same fiber. This is the paper the article sources: https://opg.optica.org/optica/fulltext.cfm?uri=optica-11-12-...

Most headlines are not written by the author, which is likely why this one is nonsensical.
The free non-logged in chatGPT didn't produce an answer for either for me.
There's actually a pretty wide distribution of video game installation sizes. People are responding to you with the stats of some of the largest games out there, but they aren't normal games. They're AAA open world and FPS games, which are all the way at one end of the distribution. Some new games I've played in the last year are right around 1-2 gigabytes. If I downloaded another Civ-style game, and it was 20 gigabytes, I'd be surprised... but not outraged or shocked.
Civilization isn’t a RTS game.

Edit: I’m not sure why this is being downvoted. Covid games are turn based strategy games.
Author here. My background is in rust if anything. Honestly, I prefer to avoid playing these clever games with type systems unless it's really necessary. It just ended up being the perfect tool for this very specific problem. (How do I compile code in a sandbox that exposes a limited reflection API?)
There has been significant discussion like the grandparent points out?

2022 (790 points, 115 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29841737
2021 (887 points, 128 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27297689
A great hack
Feature request: at one point in this guide it says:

> However, it’s discouraged to use URL fragments as they impose potential security issues.

I'd love it if that linked to a footnote or similar that explained what those potential security issues are.
When you say sequence length, does it only count the output tokens or are input tokens also included in that?

Thanks for the post, it was an excellent read!
Wow, that edit is something. Post something inflammatory that will garner engagement, then turn it into your own "I'm hiring" post once it's on the front page.

Quality hack.
I‘m not quite sure but wouldn’t that mean, that prices for those products would be raised?

Also, even if a company has a plant in the US, wouldn’t be the products produced there still be more expensive because production costs (like wages) are higher in the US then in china/taiwan etc.?

To be competitive they would need to lower those production costs.

Really interested how this turns out.
The odds a pretty good if the people running the server work for an intelligence agency.
Oh I wish I had a bunker full of offline Wikipedia copies and DOS games...
I have to mirror other comments: I find the obsession with Chinese censorship in LLMs disappointing.

Yes, perhaps it won't tell you about Tiananmen square or similar issues. That's pretty OK as long as you're aware of it.

OTOH, a LLM that is always trying to put a positive spin on things, or promotes ideologies, is far, far worse. I've used GPT and the like knowing the minefield it represents. DeepSeek is no worse, and in certain ways better (by not having the biases GPT has).
Anecdotally, I've been getting a lot more recruiter spam lately.
True story.

I worked for a medium sized company. They had a very large commercial e-commerce site for their customers. They used Wordpress sites that were hosted on GoDaddy. I worked there for two years. They never updated any of their passwords for GoDaddy or their Wordpress sites.

Its been almost ten years since I've worked there and I occasionally log on just to see if they've updated anything. Nope. Last time I checked was early 2024. Still nothing was updated.

I mean, someone gets access to their GoDaddy account and within minutes will have full control of a major bit of their business. Talk about playing with fire.
Someone just finished watching CGP Grey's latest video: https://youtu.be/1K5oDtVAYzk
I don't know what you think is going to happen if we don't get spending under control.

It is beyond me how younger people especially are not rioting in the streets with the amount of money that the government has been spending.
This memory monopoly is ridiculous! I have maybe 20 free gigs left on my computer. There has to be something really amazing about COD if I’m ever gonna buy a new PC for it.
If you add up all the different programs, roughly half of the people in the United States are on federally provided medical insurance.

It is crazy world to be spending so much money on employer provided private insurance, and only allow limited deal-making from the biggest customer...
Ray tracing, not real-time strategy.
Thank you, replying!
> because they are multi-billion dollar companies, or because they behave poorly

Both for me. They should be spanked for their behavior and lack of respect. I don’t want compensation though because I write open-source applications, but I want them to respect the license (which they don’t obviously).

Also I don’t understand why you feel anybody is withdrawing from the internet. It’s only a tarpit and I’m sure most of those who react don’t have ChatGPT subscriptions.
> Intel's fabs aren't competitive, period.

If there's a 100% tariff on Taiwan made products, I assure you, Intel will be deemed competitive. Apple isn't going to double their BOM cost just to eke out another 10-20% in performance.
"... who don't want to return to the office." The headline leaves that out. it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

On September 2021, we went back to our pre-COVID schedule of no more than two telework days per week. I don't know of anyone who complained. The pandemic was pretty much over; so, let's get back to normal.

We got an email with the directive yesterday, saying we'd be complying within 30 days. Idon't know that we'll lose anyone over one to two days per week. i do know people in other agencies who have not been back to the office and it will be interesting to see what they do.
I think borders based on watersheds make so much more sense than those on rivers, both of which are common.
That's a great idea! Since there are probably not any laws against this yet, it sounds like a great way to fight back!! Poison the AI well, I like it.
I actually agree, I know the simulations are complex, and I'm sure there's _way_ more to it than I think.

But I have an extremely high end CPU and taking turns in the late game takes way longer than I would expect.

There's only so many possible actions I can take during my turn, is there no way to pre-compute the resulting changes to game state during my turn in the background?
wow this is ALOT nicer than VSCode and cline.
I hate people who call ML, AI.

It's a glorified librarian at best
Except you're not running the model locally, you're running an entirely different model that is deceptively named.

You can pretend it's R1, and if it works for your purpose that's fine, but it won't perform anywhere near the same as the real model, and any tests performed on it are not representative of the real model.
Keep in mind that getting meltdown to work might be very difficult depending on your setup. I wouldn't have been able to at least when starting out my teacher didn't provide us with targetable hardware.

A spectre (particularly RSB-based ones) are nice to start out with imo.
Give it examples of the library being used in the way you need.

Here's an example transcript where I did that: https://gist.github.com/simonw/6a9f077bf8db616e44893a24ae1d3...
> websites can avoid by setting the appropriate HTTP headers/HTML attributes.

Individual sites plugging browser + CPU security holes seems like a violation of separation of concerns. Yes, I hope every bank out there puts this workaround into their site ASAP, but that's hardly a solution for the flaw itself.
Wild speculation based on poor RF understanding:

If I were putting a back door in cell modem silicon to track the device when it's totally powered off, I'd do something like a passive RF bug. Surely you could get something like an RFID circuit to hang off one of the many antenna in a phone. Then you just give it a path to a unique id, maybe derived from the MAC or something.
My point is that bad ideas, values, and ideas are not exclusive to religion, but orthogonal. I see plenty of secular lies and misinformation posted every day as well.

The very first step in nearly every human group is insisting that WE have the answers as long as you `have faith` in us and follow what we tell you to do.

That goes for Republicans, communists, Nazis, or the DNC. Bullshit and unthinking conformance transgresses the boundary of secular and religious ideology.

Do you think the zizan rationalists are free from bullshit because they
Atheist? Meanwhile they claim that AI from the future will put people into torture simulations as punishment if they aren't vegan, and that the only rational thing to do is kill your landlord with a katana.
Porting well written code if you know the target language well is pretty fun and fast in my experience. Often when there are library, API, or language feature differences, these are better considered outside of most work it would take to fully describe the entire context to a model is what has happened in my experience, however.
> “running a Llama:7B model fined-tuned on DeepSeek.” _is_ using Deepseek mostly on account of all the tools and files being named

Most people confuse mass and weight, that does not mean weight and mass are the same thing.
The second example in the "Results" section includes a human.
I did, and I don't really see where it says what you wrote it does
> it was Google Maps that made the experience of not needing to refresh the page popular

IMO that's a reasonable impression of the times unless I'm forgetting something (and the additional observation about sharing--"virality" as it was called, before you know--was insightful).

At the time the previous "state of the art" was something like MapQuest which IIRC had a UI that essentially displayed a single tile and then required you to click on one of four directional arrow images to move the visible portion of the map, triggering a page load in the process (maybe a frame load?).

Yahoo! also "participated" in the mapping space at the time.

In the event anyone's interested in further ancient history around the topic, this page is actually (to my surprise) still online (with many broken links presumably): https://libgmail.sourceforge.net/googlemaps.html

(It's what we did for fun in the Times Before Social Media. :D )
macOS now identifies Docker as Malware
How is that special? The military already has the F-22 which can supercruise just fine. Or the Eurofighter if your military isn’t the USAF.

And also, fuel cost is probably the last concern of an Air Force. Maybe logistics of supplying fuel in an actual war is important, but I think the money for buying the fuel itself is basically zero compared to maintenance and getting the plane in the first place.
Why big deal?

50% is just a big O of the original size :)

If we consider overall Internet traffic, which is dominated by video and images, the size of javascript transmitted is negligible.

Savings of memory and cpu for end user's browser? Maybe, but our software at all layers is so bloated, without need, just carelessly, that I'm not sure working of such javascript savings is useful - any resources saved will be eaten by something else immediately.

For an application developer or operator, the 50% savings of javascript size are probably not worth dealing with some tool that dynamically prunes the app code, raising questions about privacy and security. I though through the security and privacy questions, but who would want to even spend attention on these considerations?

As I mention in the README at github, a Microsoft researcher investigated the same approach earlier, but Microsoft haven't taken it anywhere.

There was a commercial company offering this approach of javascript minification as a product, complete product.
As well as other optimizations, like image size, etc. Their proxy embedded special "agent" code into the app which inspected the device and reported to server what image sizes are optimal for user, what js functions are invoked. And the server prepared optimized versions of app for various devices. Javascript was "streamed" in batches of only functions needed by the app.

Now the company is dissolved - that's why the website is unavailable. Wikipedia says they were bought out by Akamai - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instart. But I don't see any traces of this approach in the today's Akamai offerings.

I contacted several companies, in CDN business and others, trying to interest them in the idea and get very modest funding for a couple more months of my time to work on this (I was working on this in the end of a long break from payed work and was running out of savings). Didn't find anyone ready to take part.

This all may be signs that possibility of such an optimization is not valuable enough for users.
what voting with your wallet are you envisioning?

I already don't pay for any ai services or touch any models. but Increasingly services that used to be helpful for me are throwing them in - YouTube premium has some sort of ai summarize things, etc. how do I signal that I don't want companies scraping content there?
What happened? Games from 15-20 years ago thst still look and sound fine now (Crysis, MGS2, HL2, San Andreas off the top of my head) all fit on one DVD
An idea for 1 of the 6 simple things leading to AGI
Typo, I meant no one is going to let you talk to their current manager.

There is no way I’m going to let my current job know that I’m looking for a job. That would be completely illegal advised.
Ask HN: Is there a point in me getting a CS degree anymore?
I'm pursuing a CS degree right now. I used to do another major (I'm from Europe and had the equivalent of a little less than a 4.0 gpa), but I dropped out of there because I thought a CS major would be better.

However with all the news surrounding tech lately, mainly the advancement of AI, I've become somewhat discouraged about this whole field, and as I result I haven't been putting a lot of effort into my studies, to put it lightly. I'm barely getting passing grades. Over the previous spring and summer, before switching majors, I did a Web Dev bootcamp and I really enjoyed programming with the abomination that is JavaScript, but now I don't even like programming anymore.

I will not consider going back to my old major, since it's easily replaceable by AI.

I'm thinking of getting into agriculture (I have the necessary capital) and going down that line of work/self-employment (which I vastly prefer over being a salaried employee.)

Sure it can be physically demanding work (which I don't mind), but I don't see AI getting to that anytime soon (and to the extent that it's gotten into tech as we know it), and I have done that kind of work in the past and it's just inherently more fulfilling than staring into a computer screen, to me. Plus, it pays fine-ish and it can pay very well if, down the line, I open a food processing factory.

Any advice or thoughts you have to offer?
Well, other scientists claim that there will be a new ice age soon in Europe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U068p4RMgew

To quote Mark Twain: “Prediction is difficult, particularly when it involves the future.”