skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Fairly sure I remember pg's(?) longer post where he explores that Twitter is not only a new protocol, not only popular, not only private but also it completes the matrix:

there's one to ~one long-form communication (smtp), one to many long-form (http);

one to ~one short-form (various IMs), and finally one to many short-form (twitter).
I think the OP is posting this in the context of the other front-page discussion of the Bluesky protocol. I think in this context it is interesting.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42752703
Right. The Legal teams at Apple and Google will follow the existing law as written.

No EO from Trump will change that.
Their metrics are comparable in every single way, both with around a million MAU.

Plenty of stats websites for both, you should check them.
I'd say it's more banning of specific communication platform like radio station since other similar type services could be developed and we have already seen attempts with IG reels and YouTube Shorts.

Also, censorship has been allowed by courts time and time again if it's narrow focused to satisfy compelling government interest and not overly broad.
28% oppose the ban, and 32% support it. So a majority are either in favor or ambivalent. Two years ago a majority supported it: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/05/support-f...

Support has declined and opposition has increased. I don't think there's much of a disconnect here though, since it doesn't seem there are many people with strong opinions counter to what Congress chose to do.
The Supreme Court can always say that it can.
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Yeah this is the thing. I see the same here in Holland since the extreme-right won the elections.

People are constantly dragging up topics like transsexuality in completely unrelated discussions. I completely disagree with their opinion and I like challenging them on it (for example, what is it to them what other people do with their bodies?). They've never been able to give me a good answer to that so far. But they're constantly derailing topics about completely different things. They seem so obsessed with this topic. It's also getting so tediously repetitive. Always the same slurs without any kind of actual discussion.

The thing is, here in the Netherlands we used to have 'echo chambering' as the foundation for the country. We used to call it 'verzuiling' (literally translated "pillarification"). After the war the country was made up of several groups that didn't get along so well so each had their own newspapers, social circles, TV and radio broadcasters etc. There were the Catholics, the super-strict Calvinists, the Labour/progressive atheist crowd etc. They basically lived alongside without really interacting. And really, lately I'm starting to think this was not such a bad idea at all.
It's doing this at the instance level rather than the user level which is the problem. The long-term result of that is a few large instances that default-block smaller instances, so then people switch from the smaller instances to the larger ones that aren't blocked, creating new instances becomes unviable and the market concentrates into an oligopoly susceptible to capture by ideologues.
God damn it. I've had three X1 carbons and I use only the track point.
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I thought it was a brilliant question. Representative Hudson demonstrated understanding of security boundaries between Internet client-server and local peer-to-peer network use. Who is making fun of him for that question?
There's a great CCC presentation by Moxie (Signal originator) on that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdM-XTRyC9c

~summarized in text form https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/
One only needs look at any administration after 1980.

https://www.thebalancemoney.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306#t...

The only presidential administration that produced a non-deficit budget was Bill Clinton's second term (~97-00).

Probably because Ross Perot mostly self-funded a third party campaign centered around the national debt and had received 8% of the vote (and 19% in the previous election).
> The reason is that it's a new messaging protocol, where you don't specify the recipients.

Like multicast IP
Also a fan of executive action over congressional consent. And the son of a wealthy father in new york.

And opposed by a Democratic party which was very much controlled (to a fault) by its machine.

That's roughly where the similarities end though. I think they'd have strongly diverged on key points such as a man's duty to his country in war, presidential pardons, and right in the *****.
Basically StateT uses Either to model either the application state or an error. So if your application throws, you lose the current state forever. They sort of painted themselves into a corner with this choice of type, there's no real way out now.

This explains in more detail:

https://github.com/haskell-effectful/effectful/blob/master/t...

I agree loosely with what haskman above says about creating relatively bug free applications, the guard rails are so robust. But those same guard rails mean you can paint yourself into a corner that it is harder to get out of without imperative state, case in point above.
AIPAC made sure it had bipartisan support.
This is why Blackberry used to sell phones without cameras and microphone switches, and enterprise-centric OS images. Crazy that regular iOS/Android phones leaking data 24/7 to a million 'partners' are freely allowed at military locations. Pictures and video uploaded to social media include EXIF data with geolocation!
“Congressman Michael McCaul (R-TX), the author of the bill to ban TikTok, owns hundreds of thousands of dollars of stock in Meta, one of TikTok's chief rivals. Senator Markwayne Mullin (R-OK) bought up to $50,000 worth of Meta stock last January before voting to ban TikTok in April."

Exhibit 1.
https://www.capitoltrades.com/issuers/431610?page=2
The assumption (whether right or wrong) is that the NSA and other government agencies are at least doing it to keep Americans safe. And I think there's an assumption (again, whether right or wrong) in the general public that the NSA doesn't harvest the data of Americans themselves – or if they are harvesting the data of Americans, then they're Americans who are up to no good.
It also passed a Democrat controlled Senate and was signed by a Democrat president, who then elected to not even attempt to enforce the law today, his one day to do so. Either of those could have blocked it. It's at the very least bipartisan and the talk at the time of passage was that the Dems could deliver on Rep promises. Neither side seems to want to be the ones holding the unpopular bag.
More people supported the ban than opposed it in multiple polls. You’re leaving out the people who weren’t sure when polled
I learned this from Zed Shaw's Learn X The Hard Way books. He says this approach is mainstream in other disciplines, like music, languages, or martial arts.

I also heard the philosopher Ken Wilber spent a few years (in what kids today call Monk Mode) writing out great books by hand.

The main effect I noticed is that I rapidly gain muscle memory in a new programming language, library or codebase.

The other effect is that I'm forced to round-trip every token through my brain, which is very helpful as my eyes tend to glaze over — often I'll be looking right at an obvious bug without seeing it.
The truth is simply that Americans want Donald Trump. A country that votes for Donald Trump is not about to vote for a top down socialist president.
It was obvious the day it came out that the X25 was one CPU generation too early (dual core "i7") and even moreso now with Windows 11.

If it had a T480 motherboard instead it would've held up a lot better.

(also, a ThinkPad without a trackpoint is de facto, even if not from a legal perspective, false advertising, just like those dual-core i7's.)
Does this work with ANY card set as the transit card in iOS? Or just this one type of transit card?
Based on the Andino robot project [1] the price is greater than USD 250 [2] I wonder how far we can push the price down for schools. For example, putting an [old] mobile phone (with a camera and replacing the battery), and moving to ESP32 and use another OS.

[1] https://github.com/Ekumen-OS/andino/

[2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TMbENKlHr4g9bBA-EPNu...
I was in a meeting this week where a manager stepped away for 60% of the meeting, came back, got the ai summary and didn’t lose anything…
> the git manpage generator is funny

It would be funny if I didn't mistake it for an actual git manpage.
The president didn't ban it. Congress did, and the Supreme Court upheld their right to.

I am opposed to the ban fwiw, but being able to overrule it is a pretty big power grab for the president
Don't forget the power accumulated by Franklin Roosevelt, which probably did more to make the president a king than any single president since.
If it has modern conveniences and is even vaguely up to modern electrical code, that means someone renovated it at one point.

All modern buildings are compliant with building codes and there is very little room for creativity. If you don't like the building then you don't like the code.
Funny, I have a HP DevOne, a Linux-first, Ryzen-powered laptop they made in collaboration with System76, that has both the trackpad and trackpoint, when neither HP nor System76 usually include a trackpoint in their laptops.

Sadly they sold out of their first production run and haven't released a sequel, and even the one I have I had to have shipped to a cousin in the US because they didn't sell it internationally (I actually buy all my non-Mac laptops in the US because I can't stand the crackpot British keyboard layout).

I guess the writing is on the wall, and Lenovo has been slowly decontenting the ThinkPad, starting with the keyboards. I don't know that there is any brand that differentiates itself on premium hardware, other than Razer but their Linux support is iffy and their battery life an afterthought.

Oh, and I really liked trackballs back when thin-and-light wasn't such an obsession and Powerbooks had them like my 180c.
Wait, are you saying my hours poured into clingo/ASP mightactuallybe marketable?
The US won because TikTok will sell.
Anyone that didn't see this coming is so naive- Trump only cares about optics. Look at the message when opening tiktok "Thanks to President Trump"... there is no way he didn't say "look, you HAVE TO PUT MY NAME OUT THERE or you are being banned".

But yet morons will be like "trump saved tiktok!!!"
Does anyone know - Is there a guide like this that does this with Python instead of the C Socket API?
GasBuddy (and Life360) just sold that same location data to brokers, which Allstate bought and used to adjust premiums. Practically every app that is given access to location info is selling it, and it's widely available to anyone with the money to buy.

Maybe we should have some sort of General Data Protection Regulation law instead of hand-wringing about social media.
I suffer it so much every single time I have to interact with it that sometimes I really really want to do something else, but I can't. Unfortunately is not my call, is part of my job. I have already made my opinion about ROS in a previous thread, but another user synthesized it very clearly: it's a trainwreck. Now we can be more precise: it's an academia trainwreck tool.
The incentive structures inherent in modern politics encourages all politicians to alternately champion or repudiate unworkable solutions to problems that themselves are likely exaggerated or fabricated from whole cloth.

The parties are just brands competing against each other to appeal to different segments of the same market, offering essentially the same product in different packaging. Getting your competitor to adopt a market position that you've already prepared a response to is a neat trick.

This is par for the course, and I don't understand why anyone would expect anything different.
Big 1984 energy coming from this story.

“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grammes a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be REDUCED to twenty grammes a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
What should be the penalty for mislabeling a payment to a pornstar in the records of your own family owned company?
i hate to be blandly negative on your comment, but jesus christ. pg made this call in april 2009, and twitter turned out to be a $40b company that may have potentially swung multiple elections. and you are here in 2025 taking the face value argument that "Message boards had this property, as did blogs.", and ignoring the fact that when you post things on twitter both important people AND the unwashed masses actually read it, and they are all hooked on a unique form factor only twitter owns. threads and mastodon and truth social can tout bullshit MAUs all they like but only twitter is twitter.

sure, pg didnt communicate with the hindsight specificity i just did, but he was directionally correct for the approximately correct reason (without explicitly saying that "any new protocol must have critical adoption to be meaningful" but that is implied in pgland).
What the fuck do all these terms mean?
They’re majority owned by non Chinese investors. I don’t see how china law would have any say.
Three things:

1. Humans are not machines; arguments saying because a human can learn LLMs must be allowed to copy is not interesting.

2. Did Thompson publish the work? It sounds like you're referring to an activity Thompson did in private, to improve his skills as an author. Meanwhile, lawsuits are alleging that LLM services reproduce copyrighted materials.

3. What can be fair use at small scale is no longer fair use at large scale.
HN is just such an anomaly that taking people's individual preferences here to heart is a bad strategy.

We do email only deals, we do LinkedIn message only deals and we have a self-serve funnel.

The most important deals that make up the vast majority of our revenue took lots of meetings, pilots, review meetings, etc, because those deals are in the 6/7 figure range.
We're talking past each other. You're neither a citizen of the USA nor China, and since China has even less connection to your home country, you'd rather accept their influence than the US's—which is probably fair (even though I wouldn't assume that China is thinking of you any less dispensable).

But that is not the talking point here. The current situation is the USA effectively banning TikTok in the USA to ensure national security.

The particular interests of other foreign countries are not being considered here, and I honestly don't quite understand why you think they should be? It's not like the USA is forcing this decision on everyone else.

> How can you explain that?

Now look; I'm not an American myself. I'm also appalled at what Meta and X are doing; it's all awful. But this particular decision? It's just not about us, and yet I can still try to understand why it was taken, and how I think it is the correct one, from the perspective of the USA.
> Hmm, I'm not using verifiable signatures though.

That's even worse then for older passports (and inevitable for newer ones): Everybody will have to trust the service to be honest about not issuing sockpuppet identities. How would you prove that you aren't?

> Do you trust banks? Hotels? They all take a copy of your passport and likely store it insecurely.

That's not a concern I have at all. Every company providing service upon "identity verification" through a scan/copy of somebody's passport deserves everything bad fraudsters can throw at them. It's a non-verification method. And by the same token, the hotel could try to leak the fact that I've stayed there, and everybody taking passport copies seriously as evidence might believe them. I'm fine with that risk too.

Conversely, a private proof-of-humanity service will, by its nature, attract users that want to prove their humanity, well, privately.

> The information that I store for the passports is irreversible. It's hashed.

But that hash is ultimately calculated over somebody's passport data, isn't it? This means that anybody stealing your database will be able to deanonymize any user they have passport data for (which is not exactly secret information, as you've illustrated yourself with the hotel example).
The extension is for 90 days. If they don't sell, they are worth very little after those three months elapse. It's a life line and a fire sale.

Everyone already knew TikTok was valuable. This isn't new information. They have no concessions to extract here.

Users haven't said anything out of spite. Some people signing up for some other services was not what drove Trump to announce this executive action.
Around when Elon bought twitter he said (paraphrased) that twitter was the realtime news platform. It’s something I feel like is true in a way that should be true for other social media platforms but isn’t.

For example, say I’m in traffic on the highway. Searching 401 might in this example surface tweets from other drivers on the highway talking about traffic and/or posts about an accident they came across.

Nothing about this sort of interaction is baked into the protocol as far as I can tell yet FB insta snap etc don’t work this way.
> In the US at least, the home is one of the major mechanisms of increasing wealth over lifetime and inter-generational wealth.

That's mostly because of land values, not building values. And it's largely not a natural occurrence, but it's due to NIMBYism and property tax regimes designed so that young people will pay for all the services used by retirees.
Free speech?

Can you talk about the Tiananmen Square massacre on TikTok and show the few videos of people who were disappeared?

Are they accessible in the country that owns TikTok?
… Bluesky offers a clean, strictly chronological following feed as well as your choice of algorithmic feeds.
This would go way above insider trading for mere millions.
> Speech is not being criminalized -- you can say the exact same things on a different forum.

Yes, it's being suppressed. Criminalization is just one of the many coercive ways to censor something, but states have many tools in the box...
Then why is there not a file outlining the ethical expectations, alongside the legal agreement? The companies using the products have no way of reading the developers' minds regarding expectations of reciprocity.

The idea really isn't so far fetched, lots of projects today have non-legal outlines of expectations of community members. For a single example, codes of conduct are very common.
Does that provide an ACME server?
I'm sorry, your SIX year old is MAGA? I mean maybe this is an America thing, but my 6 year old knows literally nothing about any politician. How are 6 year olds even aware of Trump?
Yeah I just open two panes in Sublime Text, with the source on the right and then I type it out verbatim on the right.

I make an effort to keep the line numbers synced. Sometimes I skip long repetitive blocks or comments. But I do type out like 80% of the actual characters in the file.

It's about 500 lines per hour fot me, so I can estimate reasonably well how long it'll take.

It's not necessarily an efficient thing to do — you'd get way more bang for your buck just poking around, asking questions, trying to make small changes. But for reasonably small projects, you can type it out in a few hours, or a day or two. Then you've "round-tripped" every single token through your brain (though sadly not with a meaningful amount of conscious reflection) -- unless you pause and ask questions along the way.

See also my other comment above.
> Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy

Well, an oligarchy is a form of government, so . . .

Time for a new speech-writer! I guess a new President will take care of that.
We had one in a pot with another plant and it got out-competed hard. I doubt it’ll be an issue. It’s not like glowing is an evolutionary advantage.
> The klept will probably escalate until a fellow billionaire gets hit.

The klept will not spare the billionaires. There’s a reason Meta’s entire public posture has changed since Nov 6, there’s a reason the WaPo didn’t publish an endorsement. This isn’t a class thing - Trump is not a billionaire defending his fellow billionaires, he’s a mob boss in charge of the state.
What makes you think Trump will require anything meaningful of TikTok? What’s important is what TikTok can do for him, not anything related to national security or ownership concerns.
This line of thinking is just a revisit of MKUltra's obsession with the idea that folks, in general, are highly manipulated.

If you look at the arc of that very motivated thinking, and if you look at the work that the US government did to try and implement the kind of control you're describing here, I feel the only correct conclusion is that it's almost impossible to actually fabricate what folks think with any systematic success.

The best you can do is, maybe, "Coke is it", and even that is more of a product of peoples' material tastes and dislike of New Coke.

I don't think there actually is much evidence to support the idea that "social media feeds can shape personal behavior" in the granular and targeted way that you (and many folks) are implying here, in which someone's worldview is shaped for the short-term goals of XYZ actor.

I think you probably understand this, which is why you hedge into the abstract idea that social media is simple "shaping" via altering a statistical means.

I agree that it is possible to expose extant impulses as "legitimate" in ways that open folks to acting differently (I certainly wish I had understood how flexible gender expression could be when I was 14 instead of 40- I would have probably led a much different life). I think that kind of exposure to larger communities really does have an effect on people, because it certainly had an effect on people.

However, I find that to be very different than creating impulses that aren't there- I think that kind work requires, for instance, a system of bullies in school to beat folks when they don't conform to "accepted" gender roles.

But even if it were true that actors could create ideas, it begs an obvious question: how do you tell the difference between your "authentic" views and the "implanted" ideas of the media you consume?

I (personally) don't think that you (personally) have completely had your opinions actively shaped by some state actors.

I think a historical dialect merges our lived experiences with the communication we get from the folks around us: fundamentally we are drawing conclusions based on information from our surroundings in toto. Since it's very difficult to get people to ignore their lived experiences for very long, and the cost of doing that work requires the largest military and prison system in the 300k year long history of homo sapiens, I have a hard time believe that "media" can do that work very effectively. Doubly so in a world where there are multiple televisual streams and no one takes the NY Times seriously.

But if it were possible to easily, through media, manipulate whole populations, it really does beg that question stated above:

if "brainwashing" is possible, why haven't you assumed that you personally, have been the long-term target of those kinds of programs by the state which rules you?
Are they irrelevant?