skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Looking at causes of death, soft drinks and fast food should be at the top of the list.

Somehow tiktok is banned and cigarettes are still legal.
> Would you say this is fine, yes or no?

I would say I would totally be fine if the nazis made an app for kids to publish their goofy dancing videos instead of this [1], yes, absolutely yes.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
If you look at the point of a Chinese, the block of Google/Facebook certainly can be justified by "geopolitical adversary has control". The exactly same reasoning of data security and propaganda manipulation can be applied.

You can't say without hypocrisy that China blocking US social media is censorship but US banning Chinese app is national security.
I hate the keyboard in the photo (ThinkPad Aura Edition). It has no gap between F4/F5 keys and F8/F9 keys. It has no Right Ctrl, which I use frequently for keyboard shortcuts, especially because I use Dvorak (e.g. Ctrl+C/V/S/T). It has tiny Up/Down arrow keys. I care a lot about how the keys feel to my fingers without visually looking at the labels.

For reference, I own and use the ThinkPad X1 Carbon Gen 7 for many years, and the ThinkPad X220 for many years before that. The keyboard layout on both of these are more agreeable to me, albeit not perfect (e.g. X1C7 dropped the Context Menu key, which I actually use on computers where it's available; X1C7 doesn't have dedicated volume up/down keys unlike the X220).

I detest the 20-year-long trend of computer manufacturers messing with laptop and desktop keyboard layouts, chasing after sleekness or the latest fashion trends to the detriment of typists. I love laptop keyboards that differ from desktop keyboards as little as possible. I love standard 104-key keyboards on desktop and hate anything that messes this up. These details matter a lot to me as a touch typist, and as some who uses those keys that many manufacturers have implicitly deemed "useless" by their removal (e.g. Home, End, Right Ctrl, Right Windows, Context Menu).

Back to the article though, I used TrackPoint a lot on X220 because it functioned better than the touchpad. The X1C7 has TrackPoint but the motion feels unnatural to me, so I end up using the touchpad instead (which has improved over the X220). I was able to use the center button as middle click on X220 but there is no software to support that feature on the X1C7; maybe this is related to the TrackPoint vendor changing from Synaptics to Elan. Either way, I wish Lenovo made a ThinkPad that has both a good TrackPoint and a good touchpad; they were clearly capable of doing it in the past but have regressed.
China does not police foreign companies and domestic companies equally - it significantly puts its thumb on the scales to favor domestic competitors.

LinkedIn tried really hard to stay in, it simply is not sustainable.
Remind me of this

https://samperson.itch.io/desktop-goose
That is why I always go in with a mistrust mindset and why I am building my chat app this way. If accuracy is important and if I am unfamiliar with something, I mainly use LLMs as a compass and rely on them to tell me when another LLM (including itself) is wrong. I'm pretty sure I will learn the wrong things over time, but these wrong things in my mind are not critical.
this is just the thugs being mad someone else is better than them...
> Laws don't care about technical aspects.

On sufficiently long time scales, which will win?

And why are we so afraid to admit the answer to this question?

How can it get any more obvious that nation states are no longer a compelling organizing principle for peaceful, civil society?
My (limited) understanding of this law is that it works by barring US companies from doing business with ByteDance, primarily hitting App Store providers and cloud service providers.

There’s a world in which they could have migrated services to an off-shore cloud and continued to serve the existing users who already had the app installed (with the disadvantage that they would be unable to evolve the app itself, since no updates). It would have bought them time to figure out a long-term, legal fix.

…But instead they chose to just block all users with US-based accounts.

Someone made the calculation that failing the app loudly for US users was the better strategy.
Well they can believe that if they want, it won't hurt anyone. For better or worse, free speech means anyone can say what they want and free thought in general means people can happily be wrong about a fact that seems very easy to check.
As of yesterday, powerful people in China had a lot of power over you. As of today, they have a lot less. That's a good thing.
This was one for the (people who need to electronically hit) books.
We should, but we won’t.

“We need to do something” and “we will do something” are not the same.
HN ist also addictive for many people. So lets also ban it, ok?
However for these large size repositories. I'm not sure that you fit in the effective context window. I know that there is option to limit the token but then this would be your realistic limit.
The whole point? I've been buying a bunch of used ones because they're solid machines, and the battery is reasonably easy to replace. I've never liked the track point, it's not the whole point or even any point for myself.
Good suggestion! Sounds similar to what stack overflow does when asking a question.
This is the most disappointing part. We've let some of our companies do sketchy stuff because it's so hard to see where a new ecosystem will go ahead of time, and really hard to roll back popular ecosystems. But finally we have the political will to make a change for the better, and instead of ruling that 'oh turns out it is bad to allow XYZ, so here are some new rules preventing XYZ,' we're ruling that 'oh turns out it is bad to allow XYZ, so here are some new rules saying only I get to do XYZ.'
A) I'm flexible on the exact numbers here, but a starting point for discussion could be a company with more than 20% market share in a total market above 1% GDP. I admit that finding an effective standard that can withstand legal scrutiny is the hard part here, and we should work on improving it once we agree that megacorporations should be destroyed. I am still looking for a good way to cover vertical integration and other multi-market failure cases, for example.

B)

- Small business should be the driving force in the economy. They are the wellspring of competition and the bastion of the middle class.

- Megacorporations seek to destroy the ability for small businesses to compete with them, leaving buyout or vassalage as their only possible endgame. This shuts down true competitive threats to the megacorporations' dominance. They are trying to pull up the ladder behind them.

- A company should not be so large it can afford to ignore its customers.

- A company should not be so large that it can treat regulatory fines as merely a cost of doing business.

- A company should not be so large that it gets to write the laws and regulations.

- The Monopoly standard is not strict enough. Cartel-like oligopolies cooperate on the important political issues while maintaining a facade of competition.

- Our political systems are not equipped to handle the centralization of such large amounts of wealth. While the economy may not be a zero-sum game, power is, and power follows money.

- ADDED: A company must not be too big to fail.

- ANOTHER: A company should not be so large it can use loss-leaders to bully its way into other markets.
not really true, the china bad all-out propagandizing is actually pretty recent
Yep, there are no rules in the US, anyone can own a company and do anything they want. There is no evil government pulling the stings from behind the curtain.

https://www.fcc.gov/proceedings-actions/mergers-transactions...

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/biden-admin-delays-enf...

https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21168079/grindr-sold-chine...

Are you even aware of the context of the reasons why Tiktok went dark? Did they do it with no provocation? By accepting the US's arguments for the Tiktok ban we're just aligning ourselves with the same ideology of "the enemy" you're trying to malign.
Like it or not - when it is a US company that does it, the powers that be in the US can do something about it.

When it is a foreign platform controlled by a foreign government, the US government can't do shit about it.

It boils down to national security. We live in an age where (dis)information campaigns have real consequences.
All principles have exceptions.

Just like how all normal people love free speech until it comes to CP and death threats (which of course should be banned).
Seemed like the comment was. It mentioned wanting to see banning all scrolling apps and was implying because they cause addiction. Did you sense a different implication from the poster?
Will be ironic if TikTok is unbanned and Chinese apps only gain more popularity from this whole ordeal.
When will come the day a TPM deletes itself after n wrong passwords, we will feel a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of IT support voices suddenly cry out in terror, and are suddenly hit with "my cat walked on my keyboard".
U.S. government isn't perfect, therefore we should let some other government just run wild in our country. I follow your logic.
Those of you who use ROS in production, do y'all use ROS 1 or 2? Do you maintain your own fork? I'm curious how people do this, with the upcoming Noetic deprecation.
It would be funny to have accounting of time spent on scrolling or mainly-scroll apps, per country or globally.
Do you want to unban cocaine, heroine, meth, too?

They aren't forced on anyone.

This is a question in good faith. I want to understand where people are coming from who oppose TikTok ban- is it the philosophy of unchecked libertarianism, or isbit coming from the faith that social media can never be as harmful as cocaine et al?
Even if they can tune the algorithm at a whim to include just a bit of antisemitism along with the goofy dancing videos?
Yet banning it creates the largest opportunity for manipulation whereby Trump gets to play the hero to a very large number of Americans.
Your example has nothing to do with the paradox of tolerance. At least not with Popper's version.

By the way, where was this meme pushed? TikTok? X? I don't think it has much to do with who controls a particular social network.
Because caring about a stranger's political opinions that much, simply to play pretend activist, is mentally and physically exhausting.
Depressed? Aha just stop being depressed it's that easy

Addicted to alcohol? Well just stop drinking, duh?!

That's how all these "nobody is forcing you" comments sound to me
The media tends to report everything he says as though it's serious and worthy of deep discussion. Even though so much of it is just obvious droppings. And then periodically some outlets engage in hand-wringing over whether they're doing it wrong and should change. I'm not a journalist, but it seems like journalism school and culture forces their behavior into a hardened mold of stupidity.
I'd rather go for a consistent law. It if means that social media based in other countries should be banned, then ban all of them at once. Not just the ones that the national companies haven't been able to out-compete, because that seems a bit too convenient to be fair.
Linear (linear.app) does this FWIW build on vector search, we're actively working on making it more accurate too
> However, these rights should be guaranteed to a company operating in the USA and strictly adhering to US law.

ByteDance is a Chinese company with it's headquarters in China. The so-called TikTok ban is a call for ByteDance to sell off it's controlling position over TikTok, otherwise TikTok can no longer operate in the US.

The fact that China is spinning this issue as a TikTok ban is telling.
We will all be forced to reckon with the consequences of this stuff. Whether we personally scrolled or not.
We aren't capable of self regulation. Just look at what people eat and the size of the general population. In general we have no self control.
There's no endless stream of short videos. That's the hook of these apps. A slow, bare, text only website is probably low on the dopamine trigger scale. Worst case scenario you're now addicted to post graduate conversations.
Actually, that would be considered a “time, place, and manner” restriction, which has been specifically ruled to be not a violation of the First Amendment.
Remember that Americans are already at each other's throats. Half the country is literally terrified about what will happen tomorrow. The other half of the country is ecstatic. For at least some of them, they are looking forward to doing exactly what the other half fears. The rest are relieved that they will not have to undergo the terrors and tribulations of the last four years.

The country is constantly on a knife edge. It takes only a tiny shift to cause a radical change in the power structure, and good reason to think that power structure will be used against you.

It is indeed remarkable that the country has achieved anything at all when it spends so much time cowering. Nor is that new, but modern media seem to give it more immediacy.
Same. The website allows browsing from my computer, but the app doesn't work very well. Haven't tried logging in yet.
I can't tell you how long it has been happening I don't know. But yeah I have plenty of Japanese friends who barely ever talk to their parents, let alone their grandparents. It's quite shocking.
TikTok is back up in the USA.
> But targeting Tiktok specifically spits in the eye of the spirit of the law

The Supreme Court of the United States, the highest court in the United States and arguably the arbiters of the letter and spirit of the law, disagrees with you.
tiktok data is in the US, Malaysia, and Singapore.
McCarthy is an example of witch hunts, I wouldn't use it as a positive example.
Plenty of articles documenting how TikTok is designed to be addictive. Show me equivalents for HN.
I know, but what is the practical difference for the file loader? In both cases you have formats with open-ended extensions (PNG chunks and XML elements), and in both cases you have to make sure that the overall format matches what you expect.
It's actually more like "distant gay" (and would be pronounced with a hard "g") because it's a (presumably deliberate) misspelling of forĝejo.
i think we are more than capable of causing unrest all on our own
Perhaps not literally forced but socially, effectively yes.

I could drop Instagram/Facebook but that would be me making a choice to drastically change the way I interact with some people that I know and like and want to interact with.

I think there's a parallel with app stores. Can you go through modern life right now without using the Play Store or the App Store? Sure, you can, but there's so much more weight on the "use it" side than the "lose it" side.
They do, at least in the US, as viewership has dropped and leagues have struggled to attract younger viewers.

- The NFL provided a SpongeBob-themed alt-cast for a game last weekend -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcHIfPERX0s

- F1 has a similar graphics package+commentary for kids -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xUBfP2-BEA

- The NHL used their new-ish player position tracking tech to produce a real-time (or at least near-real-time) game themed to Big City Greens last year, and is set to do another in a few weeks -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCupuTnNmQ0

- The NBA has similar position-tracking tech, and used to animate a game on Christmas, with Mickey Mouse watching -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE68Q4oPcPs
For anyone confused, 'authorization' means 'authorization by Bambu', not by the owner of the printer. You, consumer serf, are not authorized to control your own bought-and-paid for devices. Your role is just to part with your money, but the corporation will decide what you're allowed to do with 'your' property.

But I'm confused this doesn't break the CFAA - if I sabotage other people's computers, that would be a crime. But if Bambu does it, it is allowed? After all, Bambu has no more claim of ownership over these machines than any random person off the street.
Shareholder value is the only metric by which to evaluate human endeavour in 2025. I have zero hope that social media will be reigned in.

With tech oligarchs capturing the US government I have less than zero hope.
They don't have to shut down. They can simply divest.

We don't allow own telephone system to be foreign owned, and those laws have been around for 90 years, and nobody is crying about free speech over that.
Even though it's banned and the app wont' work, people are constantly switching back to the app and opening it over and over out of addiction, see that it doesn't work, close it, and a few seconds or minutes later, do it again.
First, you could say something similar about many restrictions.

If there is one steel monopoly and you ban being a monopoly then we can apply the same logic you have there.

To be completely fair, the “illegal part” of being a monopoly is not generally in the existence of the monopoly itself, but in the monopolistic actions the company may take. However, those actions may be a fundamental part of the function of the company, and I’d argue that country of ownership is another property that should be eligible for restriction.

Second, and _far_ more importantly, it is not clear to me that it’s unconstitutional to make a law that a foreign company can’t operate a certain type of business in America.
I don't see a problem with that.

A lot of FOSS users conflate freedom with "I get free shit in perpetuity forever" and then whine when they see something that they don't get for free, even if nothing was taken away from them.

Best wishes to the Matrix project.
I've opened an issue about the reordered attribute values (+ another bug I found). Tab pane switching stopped being slow (I suppose my laptop was simply overloaded, and I'm too used to things being fast even when it is).
Well, the very first one seems entirely fair.

The California Coastal Commission seemed to be weaponizing and politicizing its approval. Approval to launch a rocket shouldn't be granted or denied based on if you agree politically with the CEO of the applying company. In the article it even says the Governor of California agreed with Elon.

> Republicans want to kill a $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicle purchases

Well sure, a lot of Republicans have _always_ disliked this tho. I got an EV and loved it but I can see how people that might be struggling find it unfair considering how expensive EVs are in the first place.

> Republicans also want to extend the 2017 tax plan that Trump signed

Extending republican policies is something republicans do, yes.

These really just sound like a bunch of things they were going to do anyways.

> The measures aimed at pleasing Musk aren’t all financially based. Some are personal. Trump has nominated Ken Howery, Musk’s longtime friend and occasional houseguest, who helped Musk lead PayPal years ago, to become ambassador to Denmark, where Howery’s prime mission would be negotiating a deal to buy Greenland — a pet project of Trump’s. Howery was ambassador to Sweden during Trump’s first term.

This, at the end of the article, is ironically probably the strongest example the author has but he chooses to add it at the very end.

It sounds a bit like nepotism. What qualifications does Howery have to be an ambassador? I guess he was before, in 2017.
China had a longstanding requirement that companies operating there under certain conditions had to have majority domestic ownership. It appears they've relaxed it somewhat in recent years and now I'm not sure if it applied to Apple China or not.

But the distinction is somewhat redundant with their government structure anyway. If they want to force you to do something there, how much does it matter if they say "you have to because we have majority control of this company" or "you have to because we have a one-party system and control the law"?

If the US government e.g. orders a US company to censor criticism of the US, the company can sue them and plausibly win. If you can't do the same in China, you don't control that company, they do.
> AFAIK they have also banned TikTok on official government phones. However they have not generally banned TikTok for everyone.

The US is not banning TikTok. The US is forcing ByteDance to sell it's controlling position on TikTok or else the company is no longer able to operate within the US.

How come the critical bit is repeatedly left out?
BMP is pretty gross too, though fortunately far less useful.
Whether or not any owner intends for this to happen, purchasing a Tesla since late summer 2024 is likely to be seen as a political statement for Maga
Not that it's the only factor, but don't forget that for many countries, seemingly going "against" the US is very hard. Whoever feels like the US never puts pressure on western countries is probably a US citizen.
You make that sound like it's a bad thing. There's extremely little genuine value left in social media platforms to the average user these days. Most are completely focused on getting you to want to doom scroll, not actually connect with friends.

Maybe its time to go back to a simpler MySpace or FriendsReunited style setup for actual social media. The problem is theres not much money in that, nor are people likely to visit as regularly.
I don't know about ban, but parents today are so totally disconnected from the dangers associated with scrolling. Kids today live in their phones. The ones that stay away are going to have such a competitive advantage. So maybe not forbid, albeit that would really serve the community, but the goverment should get off their asses and start informing schools and parents about what their kids are doing to themselves.

But it is a super-difficult problem to solve, because a lot of parents depend on just letting their kids sit with their phones a couple of hours every day to enable wfh etc (or in worse cases, go out with friends to socialize).

My wife is super-aware and is a stay-at-home mom and even she thinks it is a real challenge (mostly because of what friends are allowed to do). We have rules that say no screens (with exceptions for research, school work, some programming) during weekdays. We banned TikTok and Roblox years ago. The kids get 1 hour per day during weekends. These rules, when my wife introduced them, made a HUGE difference. They're different kids (they get so bored they clean their rooms, play chess, read books, play with Lego, don't have problems with their chores etc).
Those laws also apply to Chinese companies operating in China too. They have different stuff for outside of China. For example, TikTok's algorithm which is the general use one is AFAIK banned in China.
I wouldn’t assume that your colleagues were less capable as undergrads than the students that Dijkstra encountered at UT Austin.

Imperative languages do offer many advantages over Haskell, in that most coursework and industry jobs use them and that, consequently, their ecosystems are much further developed. These advantages are a consequence of university programs' alignment with the imperative and object-oriented programming paradigms, to Oracle's benefit.

Your colleagues having never looked back at lisp is hardly evidence that Haskell would have been too difficult for them or that Oracle didn’t have a hand in this.
> Even if they can tune the algorithm at a whim to include just a bit of antisemitism

You mean like all the US social networks banning or severely restricting the content on the slaughter being perpetrated in Palestina, mostly against innocent people and kids, while tik tok allowed it?

The answer is still yes, instead of the holocaust I will gladly take an app with just a bit of antisemitism, that, BTW, is not lacking on the platforms we all use and originated in the USA

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2023/07/14/antisemit...