skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>But sure, the “transformative” argument is the one that could apply (and even I believe Google used it to argue its case), if it can be shown that an LLM can not verbatim reproduce a given work.

You have to try pretty hard to get LLMs to reproduce a work verbatim, especially any lengthy passages that aren't famous (and thus re-quoted on the internet a bazillion times). Moreover just because LLMs can reproduce a work verbatim if you try hard enough doesn't mean it's not transformative. Google search snippets and google book search has been ruled "transformative" by the courts, but if you tried hard enough you can use them to extract the entire work.

>That said, relevant laws existed before LLMs, and may are outdater. If the goal is to balance reasonable uses while protecting original output of authors that ultimately drives innovation and creativity, I am not sure if the preexisting laws are continuing to fulfil their function, but that’s my opinion.

AFAIK the era of mining the public internet or published works for AI training data is over, or at least coming to an end. Everything that could be mined, has already been mined, and besides, the internet is getting increasingly polluted by AI output. Private training data is where it's at now, whether it's sourcing document troves from companies (eg. emails, documentation, source code, etc.), or paying "AI annotators" to produce training data for you. If the argument is that human authors should get a cut of AI profits because their works were "stolen" to train the models, this is going to be a increasingly losing argument, because it doesn't have a leg to stand on for private training data.
So, rather like NuBus? IIRC, cards for early Macintoshes often had at least a basic driver in ROM, written in either Forth or 680x0 assembly code.
If IBM’s original product was “designed to facilitate the Holocaust”, then every article about IBM darn better lead with that.

In case of Facebook, it was originally designed literally to compare the attractiveness of female students; but no, it’s not even remotely as bad, and comparing it to the Holocaust trivializes an incident where masses of people were murdered in an industrial fashion.
I don't think meta is taking some moral stand when they flout the law like this
I had this idea the other day when dealing with CI and thought it must be dumb because everyone's not already doing it. It would make your CI portable to other runners in future, too.
Bambu denies their own documented restrictions [video]
Regardless of the outcome, the optics are bad on all levels. If they truly are guilty of something, it's an insane abuse of power. If they are not, and the motive is legitimate, it speaks to the overwhelming decline of the US justice system.

If everyone assumes the DoJ is now a political weapon, we've essentially greenlit these types of pardons as the new status quo.
I agree that was the intent of the analogy but it’s not a great one. The idea that Disney, who has perverted IP laws globally for almost a century, should have equivalent ownership over their over-extracted copyrighted works to the same degree I have privacy for the thoughts in my own head? Really?
In addition to what others said, I'd simply point out that all 'ret' does on x86 is pop an address off the top of the stack and jump to it. It's more of a "helper" than a special instruction and it's use is never required as long as you ensure the stack will be kept correct (such as with a tail-call situation).
What do you mean by “originally”? The cameras on Hubble are black and white, and this is a color image.
How about a politician?
If they just wanted to win, they wouldn't be offering these models for free. Meta is also trying to salt the earth for the other players. "Commoditize your complements".
I think we should pay authors a fair wage based on some measure of the quality of the content instead of how well the book sells.

There's no reason for Harry Potter for example being 10000 times more valuable than a book on quantum mechanics only because the former is more popular and the latter is on a more obscure topic.
> argon is heavier than Alex ..

Al(ex)chemy is so counter intuitive and suprising!
It's not the invention it's the delivery.

Consumer goods are delivered by businesses. Delivering new, high tech ones is hard.
If he is misanthropic , then amigo, Nature is the most misanthropic existence in the whole universe, by your logic, lol.
Something tells me that if they did it "properly" i.e. scraped and distilled all the world's libraries directly themselves (google streetview style without storing any individual pages) instead of torrent there'd still be backlash for the disruption it brings.
If you're saying just because Facebook is harmful doesn't mean TikTok can't also be harmful then I agree. But one app has already caused a genocide, the other hasn't. So why are we only talking about TikTok as if the other social media apps are safe?
This is it, this is the best comment.

They’re all a bunch of aspiring lawnmowers, some of them just try to ride whatever the latest wave of popular opinion is to cynically accumulate some social currency.
I first learned programming on a Wang 2200 computer in 1978, which used the Wang BASIC dialect. Wang BASIC was both very primitive (single letter or letter+number names, no local scope, fixed width strings) and very powerful (built array operations, including MAT SORT).

A year or two later I got a book from the library on PASCAL. I recall skimming through it at first and thinking: is this real code or pseudocode? I couldn't believe, eg, that one could test for set inclusion with a built-in primitive.
Until you replace lemons with limes and then deliver the juice through copper pipes...

https://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm
In any angle of view, those people are clearly subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
Tesla's domestic Chinese manufacturing received subsidies. That still has the effect of benefiting domestic over foreign production and should be punished.

The fact that ultimately Tesla is an American company does not matter as the effect of shifting manufacturing due to market manipulation remains.

The kind of non-preferential subsides I was referring to are generally purchase subsidies without any origin requirements. For instance, EV purchase rebates in the US aren't restricted to domestically manufactured vehicles.
Showing up to do work is how you wield soft power nonetheless, even if it's a side effect.
by the government… in 2026/28…
Biden refused to enforce the ban[1], so I really doubt democrats would enforce it 4 years later if they came to power again. The issue isn't very partisan, liberals don't hate TikTok much more than conservatives.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/17/tikt...
I think what he was awkwardly going for was “I’m giving my heart to the crowd.” He should have thought about how it would look though.
I live in Japan and am friends with foreign women who chose to live here, so I guess I have the opposite confirmation bias, but the people I know who gave birth here have been super happy with the help that mothers get here, getting to stay in the maternity ward for a week with 24/7 nurse support to help recover and getting breastfeeding going. Along with the government paying for the procedure making it free and a bunch of other support.

I also have friends who had such bad experiences in the west to the point they ended up going with home birth...

From my experience talking to people, the reason for the low birth rate here is the same as in any other country.
I guess as long as the President is competent at directing the executive branch to not enforce a law then you're right, you win by making yourself a sycophant. But if you don't trust the President to write an EO that actually prevents you from being fined millions of dollars a day then you're just stuck with ambiguity of what you're allowed to do. Bad for business.
It's not my job to reformat the entire AI market.

I'm willing to try AMD, and I even built an AMD-based machine to experiment with AI workflows. So far it has been failing miserably. I don't care that MI300X is compelling when I can't make samples work both on my desktop and on a cloud-based MI300X. I don't care about their academic collaborations, I'm not in the business of producing papers.

I'll just pay for H100 in the cloud to be sure that I will be able to run the resulting models on my 3090 locally and/or deploy to 4090 clusters.

If AMD shows some sense, commits to long-term support for their hardware with reasonable feature-parity across multiple generations, I'll reconsider them.

And AMD has a history of doing that! Their CPU division is _excellent_, they are renowned for having long-term support for motherboard socket types. I remember being able to buy a motherboard and then not worrying about upgrading the CPU for the next 3-4 years.
You should develop a compelling portfolio of projects that showcase depth rather than breadth. Instead of having many small projects, focus on 2-3 substantial ones that demonstrate

1. Real-world problem solving and business impact - Document clear metrics and outcomes, like "Reduced customer churn by 15% through implementing an early warning system" rather than just describing the technical implementation.

2. End-to-end ownership - Show your ability to handle the full ML lifecycle from data collection and cleaning through deployment and monitoring. Include challenges faced and how you overcame them.

3. Engineering best practices - Demonstrate production-level code quality, testing practices, and MLOps skills like model monitoring and retraining pipelines.
Past experience with this kind of thing by you-know-who does not lend itself to the idea of a substantive discussion.

HN isn't "about the tech industry" per se - its mandate is to discuss topics of intellectual curiosity. See https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Celebrity troll moves (or whatever this is) don't fit that bill, so in this case I'm inclined to agree with the users who flagged the story.
I wonder if software can be put to it in order to plot every single star.

I wonder if there were a way to eventually get a stereo image — depth data for each point of light so that we can map Andromeda in three dimensions.
Soviet Union's birth rate did not really rebound the way other nations did even provided the award. Granted, immediately after WW2 there was a large boost which is when this award program started, but fell to just above replacement soon after. I would not draw too much on this social standing/admiration aspect.

Funnily enough, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Heroine was reinstated in 2022. Russia's current birthrate is ~1.5. Ukraine has something similar as well, they're doing quite poorly, even before their war at ~1.3.

My radical take on all this birthrate stuff is that the single most effective way to boost the birthrate is to entice boredom in any way you can. The internet was a great invention, but the great cost was our attention. It's likely out of the bag that we can't revert to a minimally networked world though. I would (and do) certainly fight against attempts to ruin the internet myself.
This is from a small model. 32B and 70B answer this correctly. "Arrowroot" too. Interestingly, 32B's "thinking" is a lot shorter and it seems to be more "sure". Could be because it's based on Qwen rather than LLaMA.
How will the landscape likely change with the new administration given Trump says he likes legal immigration and DOGE aims to reduce red tape?
There are official ollama models, no need to use HF

https://ollama.com/library/deepseek-r1/tags
Imagine being forced to use X. That sounds horrible.
Why open source AI models?
Why are big tech companies open sourcing AI models. What do they hope to gain? Unlike in case of Linux and Linux foundation, these corporations are for profit and it takes an unusually large sums of money to train these models?
Look up Iran hostage situation and how unelected presidential candidate undermined an active president.
You don’t talk about the fight club …

Everyone uses „pirated“ content, but some are better at hiding it and/or not talking about it.

There is no other way to do it.
It’s a good question. Textbook companies especially would be pretty enthusiastic about a new “right to learn” monetization strategy. And imagine how lucrative it would be if you could prove some major artist didn’t copy your work, but learned from your work. The whole chain of scientific and artistic development could be monetized in perpetuity.

I think this is a dangerous road with little upside for anyone outside of IP aggregators.
Don’t read it then. People are allowed to write advice you deem trite.
This sends like a great idea... for 2019. Unfortunately it's not 2019 and X isn't Twitter.

Where's section that tells you what percentage of your feed is Elon spouting contemptible nonsense, non-Elons raging at Elon's contemptible nonsense, or the muffled whines of even other non-Elons as their contemptible reguritations of Elon's contemptible nonsense squeezes past Elon's sphincter?
As I stated in my other comment, Biden refused to enforce the ban[1], so I really doubt democrats would enforce it 4 years later. It's not exactly a partisan issue, democrats don't hate Tiktok much more than republicans or something.

The real answer is that both sides don't want to take the blame from Tiktok users that rely on it for income, news or entertainment.

That's why the best outcome for them would be the sale of Tiktok to an American, and that's what the law was about. The issue was that Supreme Court ruled at the last minute if it was enforceable.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/17/tikt...
I have all the keyboard shortcuts for photoshop in my muscle memory. Those same keyboard shortcuts don't work in, say, Gimp.
Disclosure: I don’t believe in individual rights, I think we should hold people down and vaccinate them for the good of the community. But the UN sucks. My dad worked for a USAID contractor his whole career doing international development, and he says the UN is the most bureaucratic and ineffective organization in the world. It’s giant bureaucracy dragged down by all the third world countries that couldn’t efficiently run a popsicle stand.

There’s nothing the US needs to do in the area of health that it needs to do within the context of the WHO.
The United States has a lot of unique traits that few other countries have (American exceptionalism), birthright citizenship being just one characteristic. I'd think an executive order is just testing the water, but to change it definitively requires a constitutional amendment.
The end result of that is that Musk will be lionized by Hacker News but never criticized.

Your policy settings are wrong.
> Search for and leak `AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID` anyone?

Well that's just someone being a dumbass, since AssumeRoleWithWebIdentity (and its Azure and GCP equivalent) have existed for quite a while. It works flawlessly and if someone does do something stupid like `export HURP_DURP=$AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID; printenv` in a log, that key is only live for about 15 minutes so the attacker better hurry

Further, at least in AWS and GCP (I haven't tried such a thing in Azure) on can also guard the cred with "if the organization and repo are not ..." then the AssumeRole 403s to ensure that my-awesome-org/junior-dev-test-repo doesn't up and start doing fun prod stuff in GHA

I hate GHA probably more than most, but one can footgun themselves in any setup
Again, so?

When was they last time these things weren't rubber stamped?

What do you suppose would happen should the symbolic monarch not rubber stamp procedure?

Why is it that Canada, et al are regarded in the world as "full democracies" whereas the US is ramked a bit lower as a "flawed democracy"?

( See: peer comment with wikipedia link to democratic rankings )
Couldn't agree more.

"Kids are hard. People are selfish." - More people than ever before want to live a life free of the responsibilities of having children, which is totally fine but never gets talked about in this discussion about birthrate. I have a lot of financially secure friends who never want kids.

"The dating market is torture." - Expectations of dating, especially online dating are very different from previous generations and kind of wack. I admit to falling into the trap of feeling like someone else out there is better and not giving the person I met online more of a chance past the first date. I'm sure others who I was with had the same reaction. Next thing you know, you're past the age of wanting or even being able to have a child. Either way, it's crazy when you see online discussions about how such and such city has a dearth of good matches which seems statistically improbable.
It’s just Meta and their goal is to not look like they’re behind and to deny other tech companies a profit margin by just offering it for free, since they don’t have a real way to monetize it directly.

Also these aren’t open source, just open weights. AI2 is the only real open source model that’s well known

https://allenai.org/olmo
> If the argument is that human authors should get a cut of AI profits because their works were "stolen" to train the models, this is going to be a increasingly losing argument, because it doesn't have a leg to stand on for private training data.

The argument can be made that LLMs could not be created without expropriating the original works of all the authors they were trained on, and that argument would in fact be true and have quite sturdy legs as far as I’m concerned.

It’s not a historical instance of forgotten times, it started less than half a decade ago and I would be surprised if it’s not still ongoing (your argument about synthetic training data is forward-looking).
What "culture" says it's okay to treat humans as if they are animals?
Could a case have been made for defamation, as their actions had caused Steam to falsely label them as a cheat?
right. it's a forum for start ups and small entrepreneurs, but everyone comment like they are already bigger than meta and as above the law as musk.
Fun fact: it’s only illegal to leverage a monopoly in one market to advance another. It’s perfectly legal for Coke to leverage their large but not monopolistic soft drink empire to advance their bottled water entries.
HN's principle is to have intellectually curious conversation about topics that gratify intellectual curiosity. It seems pretty obvious that this isn't that.

More at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42776410
Or anyone else for that matter, they simply do not care about software.
Well, for one, I use Jujutsu, where commits happen every time you run jj status and traditional notions of pre-commit hooks don't really apply. But also, I think (as a matter of principle) nothing should get in the way of performing commits or amends.
TLDR Bambu silently edited their original announcement and accused users of "spreading baseless allegations and untrue claims." It was proven otherwise with archive.is, but you won't find anything on archive.org because they took it down.

https://wiki.rossmanngroup.com/wiki/Bambu_Lab_Authorization_...
Anybody else fantasize about what life could be like there? Do you think some civilization there has taken a similar photo of our own galaxy?
It seems extraordinarily hard to argue that Facebook caused the Rohingya genocide without accepting that TikTok is at least complicit in the Uyghur genocide. (I'm personally skeptical of the argument in both cases.)
> lionized by Hacker News but never criticized.

You need only look at any thread involving His Muskness from the past several years to satisfy yourself that is not the case.
> A stricter interpretation of "subject to the jurisdiction." means it should require complete, exclusive allegiance to the U.S., which might not apply to children of undocumented immigrants due to their parents' legal status or nationality.

This would imply that neither jus soli nor jus sanguinis citizenship would be applied to the children of US citizens who hold dual citizenship, that wouldn't fly at all, given that it would leave such folks entirely stateless.

> The socio-political context has changed.

This does not matter to a textualist reading of the constitution, which the majority of members of the current court claim to apply.

> The fact that children of diplomats do not automatically gain citizenship due to not being "subject to the jurisdiction" in the fullest sense could be expanded to include children of undocumented immigrants, arguing that these parents, too, are outside full U.S. jurisdiction.

The counter to this is that undocumented immigrants would be totally outside of the jurisdiction of any US legal enforcement except for deportation. The local police cannot arrest or detain someone who is outside of their jurisdiction. If a parent is outside of the US jurisdiction, they have some equivalent of diplomatic immunity. You can't say "you're under jurisdiction of the US for law enforcement purposes, but not for immigration purposes".
That's true. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... has lots of explanation of how we approach this, and should also explain why the current story isn't one that we would turn off flags on.
I think the "Aha" is that the RL caused it to use an anthropomorphic tone.

One difference from the initial step is that the second time around includes the initial step and the aha comment in the context : It is, after all, just doing LLM token-wise prediction.

OTOH, the RL process means that it has potentially learned the impact of statements that it makes on the success of future generation. This self-direction makes it go somewhat beyond vanilla-LLM pattern mimicry IMHO.
I think Net Ninja and Dave Gray are pretty good at coding and communicating.
Biden declined to initiate legal proceedings in the last 24 hours of his administration... the only notable thing about that is that it isn't notable. It's hardly going to control what happens 4 years from now.

I agree the issue isn't particularly partisan. Both parties were in favour of the ban. The process was started by Trump, continued by Biden, passed by the vast majority of both parties in the house (with republicans more in favor the democrats [1]), and then at the last second both parties realized that it was going to be wildly unpopular...

But who knows how political winds are blowing 4 years from now, or 1 year from now, there's every chance it's now something either or both sides wants to take tech companies to task for not complying with. Or they just want to enforce the rule of law and don't care about TikTok. Or they just don't like tech companies.

[1] Republicans 197 to 15, Democrats 155 to 50 + 1 present vote https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202486
> If you know the Russians are jamming GPS then what's the difference at this point?

Intent?

By the way, one could just as well argue that Russia is putting its civilians in harm’s way by jamming GPS and causing drones to strike off-target.
The current ASIC's all fail in the memory game, they are not compelling. Cerebras is even more unavailable than AMD!

> It most definitely is about “beating” NVIDIA.

Hard disagree, but we are just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
Buying a book to read and incorporating their text in a product are two different things. Even if they bought the book, imo it would be illegal.