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My opinion. Assuming just because you have the ability to freely listen to everyone else drivel does not mean you made that decision freely.

I am actively anti-social media myself, it's a hard stance I have and I have had to effectively "die on that hill".

The amount of time our social media team has had serious issues with me refusing to comply with their requests to be involved with their current tiktok trend, arguing about "but you need to be relevant to the modern generation" when my argument is exactly the thing Tiktok was banned for, I want to be in control of who has my data. That is bad enough already but to freely just give my likeness to a chinese owned company to sell adverts however they like?

It's got nothing to do with "relevance" its a moral standing. And no I don't think tiktok is the only guilty platform but it's a step in the right direction concidering how absolutely mindless and time consuming the content is.

And no matter how strongly you believe you have free will and freedom of thought, you are a reflection of the people you surround yourself with and I would make the argument the media you consume.

And tiktok specifically is significantly more addictive than other media, sure the same argument can be made for youtube shorts and IG reels and whatever else which is the current short form content, and the biggest issue there is: there's no way to justify your stance, to bring evidence to back your case.

All that there is is the ability to state your point and the majority of users will follow if you state it compellingly enough. It's mass propaganda taken to the extreme.

I strongly believe YouTube shorts etc should follow the same fate as tiktok has. It should be regulated as strongly as Narcotics because it is equally as addictive and imho has a similar effect on society.

Sorry for the rant but as I said, I have a moral stance on this topic and for some reason society in general decided it needs to be faught with the zeal of the crusades.

Why is all of our media bombarded with the ban when it has been signed into law and backed by the relevant countries highest powers.

If it was a unanimous vote in government and held up by the supreme court why is media against it? They are scared the next step is them.

This isn't the media holding government accountable, this is media swaying the general public's opinion. This[1] comment on HN just proves that. They had no interest in tiktok, if media let it just go quietly into the night they would still have no interest but now that the fact that its disappearance has been shouted from every rooftop to every single human being the addiction crysis has spread to them. "Fear of missing out" strikes again.

Media is designed to control and the first punch thrown against it is being countered, who will win in the end?

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42754640
China is a totalitarian dictatorship. The US is the land of the free.
I’m not paying a cent but I see AI buttons and ads for it all over my OS and software interfaces. Let’s just say this renaming makes me think that’s not about to improve anytime soon.
Now that was the entire point of this, remember? The offer was to sell to an American entity, or be banned. They didn’t want to sell, so here we are.
That's great, but the people there should realize it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one social media platform basket.
the latter might be your debatable characterization of the situation right now, but the former was not on the table and the only reason to couple them together is to make your point
"Grey zone conflict" sounds a lot like our powers are upset they don't have the level of control over information that the adversary has. They want to be the ones to censor, suppress, and promote, rather than another country. The goal isn't more open access to information.
Mandatory: https://youtu.be/9kaIXkImCAM?si=U76gvd5VGANNFTcy
> The electron part isn't the bloat but the web part.

The bloat part is the bloat. Web apps can made to be perfectly performant if you are diligent, and native apps can be made to be bloated and slow if you're not.
doesn't seem like an American, as there's no American exceptionalism, more like a Chinese(or other 3rd-world country) liberal disillusioned after once believing in the old US...

We have a lot of people like that, who used to believe in America's free trade, democracy, fair competition, and innovation. I used to be one too

now things are changing...
So you don't see Zuckerberg doing a roundabout on a bunch of policies with the new administration then?
The first time I heard that word was in Sourceforge, decades ago.
Defining itself as simply an alternative to the mainstream is a not a great way to makes its own identity.

Imagine if Fedora presented itself as simply “an open source alternative to windows”.

Sure, that might be easier to understand for those less in the field, but really doesn’t help it’s own identity.
Not sure if this is a launch or anything. I came across this on an Elixir forum and found it interesting enough to be posted on HN. That's it.

Not sure why everything must be a "launch" - there is more in life than drinking the kool-aid of start-ups. Not everything needs/wants to be the JS-bro full stack framework of the week. Like, playing with some tech and some ideas just for the f* of it.
The opinions were expressed, just with an actor's voice.
>The issue is that TikTok is somewhat unique in being aggressively weaponized in currently very active “grey zone” conflicts.

That has been happening since time immemorial.

What is actually the issue is that for the first time ever in the post-WW2 Pax Americana era, media is being weaponized by a powerful non-American state (China).

America does through Facebook, Mysterious Twitter X, Reddit, CNN, Fox News, PBS, et al. what China does through TikTok. If anything, other countries should also seriously consider banning foreign media and realize insofar as future geopolitics that Pax Americana is ending.
whether or not that's true it doesn't affect the issue of our jurisdiction over a PRC-controlled app
I don't think so. I don't trust software authors to make the right choice, and the most tilted examples of where a core will usually need a bigger core can afford to wait for the scheduler to figure it out.

And if you want to be close together in the memory hierarchy, does that mean close to the RAM that you can easily get to? And you want allocations from there? If you really want that, you can use numa(3).

> without getting too deep into implementation details.

Every microarchitecture is a special case about what you win by being close to things, and how it plays with contention and distances to other things. You either don't care and trust the infrastructure, or you want to micromanage it all, IMO.
Think about all the confusion a normal user will face and then some of us have to answer and offer support for it. They could have called it Office 733 or 999 and people wouldn't be as angry. But they completely got rid of Office brand name.

I guess at least they did it after Christmas family dinner.
There is an impact on the TikTok’s app to display content to American users.
I hear this all the time without the /s

As if merely writing the code is the only prerequisite for making a hundred billion dollar business
> For one of the most popular drugs in recent years, yeah, production might take some time to ramp up.

Which is why it's an outlier.

> The issue definitely isn't R&D cost recuperation: in the US Ozempic is much more expensive, but in Romania nobody would pay that much (government or private).

This has nothing to do with whether the government sets the price. If people in the US would pay $1000 and people in Romania would pay $200 but the government sets the price at $100 in Romania then there is $100 less incentive for R&D.
One is a "bastion of democracy", and another is the "center of human rights violation".

Would you not expect the rules to be different?

If it's only about reciprocity and global hegemony, well then...
Those individuals reside in the US, and are US citizens. They have first amendment rights to engage in those activities.

Singaporean corporations controlled by the Chinese government in China does not have FA rights.
Russia was just flowing USA's lead, Centcom was contracting out influence operations through sock puppet accounts since 2011, no different than Radio Free Asia really, influence hearts and minds, now with just a little automation.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...
also shows - how on a basic comparison some rich people back then lived way better than some poor folks do today in terms of assets. though in terms of relative access to goods poor folks today are better off.
Social media can’t sleep in beds or other places, it doesn’t have a body.

Actually it’s more like preventing your wife to talk to other men, just in case. We know what the world thinks about these kinds of husbands…
I think those comparisons are poor - TikTok is service that could be used to send instantaneous information to 170 million users in the US. It's potential to cause a problem if it's controllers choose to do so is many orders of magnitude broader and faster than those examples.
you don't refuse to close one security hole because you might have another. we could make the latter illegal too! it might already be!
Just to add on:

I don’t imagine discussion of what’s happening to the Uyghurs is getting much traction in TikTok either.

Movement against TikTok started started with the Trump admin well before Oct 7, 2023 [1].

I think this is less Israel / Palestine and a better explanation lies elsewhere. Namely, that anti-China sentiment has been growing for a while now and Meta has plenty of money to burn (on the Metaverse, Lobbyists, etc.)

The actual law was passed after accounts of spying on Hong Kong citizens were made public [2].

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1 — https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/ex...

2 — https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-china-bytedance-user-data-...
For the record, almost no bees die when they sting you. This is just a weird myth that people repeat nonstop.

This only happens to honeybees, and only when they're stinging humans. Most skin is much thicker than ours, more similar to our feet callouses. The stinger isn't supposed to go in. That's closer to a sword's foil.

The reason they panic when it happens is it's not supposed to happen.

The stingers are mostly meant for combat with other insects. You can watch these fights on youtube. They never, ever end with the bee self eviscerating.

This is a simple example of people trying to look smart by explaining things which, when you check, just aren't true.
lets win that war by introducing affordable rents, a working healthcare system and fresh food for 90 cents. :)
leaving the last word for you of course
And Steamforged Games, which now owns all the Warmachine IP, is doing a terrible job stewarding its future. It's a shame, because Warmachine really had the depth of lore to compete, and was so close to providing a strong alternative.

I've gone back to paying a lot of money to play Necromunda, which is a truly fantastic gem of a game with lore so deep, there are multiple Necromunda podcasts and YouTube creators putting out multi-hour episodes on it. Nevermind that the model sculpts coming out of that team are the best in the industry. [1] [2]

[1] https://www.warhammer.com/en-DK/shop/hive-secundus-malstrain...

[2] https://www.instagram.com/wellywoodwargaming/p/DChkL6ThVbp/
That makes little sense. Why would a country be equally afraid of the influence of its citizens compared to a foreign, authoritarian regime with opposing interest? Given the choice, naturally you’ll be on the side of your own people rather than the others.
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Whether they want or not, they cannot. The democratic system, even deficient as one in US, still does its job and works against blatant information suppression.
Based on what do you say it's not? How is it a convenient narrative?

The ban both could have started earlier and been pushed to completion based on more recent factors.

Lawmakers talked about propaganda potential relating to Palestine directly, multiple times.

https://theintercept.com/2025/01/09/tiktok-ban-israel-palest...
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Sounds a fantastic idea and a great addition to OSSINT overall
You are not wrong per se

> This has been an open secret in national security circles but the average person on the street has no idea what a grey zone conflict is, what it looks like, or why it matters

Looks like you're just confirming what OP said

Might as well look up the definition of "5th column"
So many people focus only on TikTok instead of their fellow citizens' rights that are being trampled upon. Even NYT writers happily insinuate that all will be forgotten in no time. Cutting people's social links is not benign. An American may be happily watching Italian content, and when you cut her link it doesn't follow that the Italian creators will move their content to some other platform accessible to that American. Same for Americans with foreign followers. Americans may also have trouble reconnecting with American creators. It boggles the mind that these losses are given so little thought.
Sure; but negotiations involve a give and take. You can't push things in the a direction if you just tout your purity and one side gives in and gets rolled over.

I think some progress was made getting TikTok on US servers and the US hires etc. Maybe more transparency in how the company operated or observers within could have been good next steps. Maybe some mutual concession with some version of US media operating within China.

Ideally finding benefit to nation states competition benefits global citizens in some way such as the green race transition to renewables is good ... Can we have privacy and democratic media race somehow? ... Maybe not possible :)
> It was, but why did the ban only succeed now?

This has been going on for years now. The Navy banned TikTok because of security concerns in 2019.

Then in 2020, the US announced it was considering banning them. ByteDance planned to divest by selling to an American company. The Chinese government disagreed.

TikTok sued and that took a while to go through the courts.

Then TikTok tried negotiating to avoid having to divest for a couple years by placing all private user data in the US, but later leaked recordings made it clear that Chinese employees still had access.

A law to ban TikTok on US government devices was then passed.

Then a law to ban TikTok unless they divest was drafted, but it took a couple years to pass and then that had to wind its way through the courts.
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Regardless of what you think about TikTok or Trump, we can probably all acknowledge this is a “slow ball” pitch that he can hit out of the park politically in a number of ways. People in this thread have mentioned the flip flopping but I don’t think mid term voters care about that. Nor do the Chinese as this brings a bargaining chip to the table.
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Is this supposed to be China only or should the rest of the world also be suspicious and ban e.g. Meta services especially since they don't have any competing service that is popular in the US?
TikTok modifies closing message to mention Donald Trump
“More open access to information” is not the adversary’s goal, either. Is that goal served by preserving the adversary’s control over the information environment?
You mean, Romania?
I think they were too busy ripping off VMS and mainframe software to send anything the other direction except Tetris
They should wait a week and hire the moderators fired by Tik-tok…
It's not like people aren't trying other platforms — but those platforms don't surface the same kind of content, don't provide the same reach, or are actively pushing their own agendas.
fundamentally, it’s a ‘liberal’ (assume good intent/turn the other cheek) vs ‘conservative’ (cover your ass) approach. In the literal, not political meaning.

With enough problems, enough people get burned that of course this is where it goes.
Good I hope this opens the way for the ban of american apps all over the world.
To me, you're answering your own question.

40 years ago when computers took off, I witnessed all the young mathematical minds having the greatest technical potential become diverted away from natural sciences like never before.

I was already a computational pioneer myself with oils and chemicals but it was easy to see there would eventually be so many people working on advanced computer problems that I really wouldn't have to make that many of those advances myself.

So when more and more technical minds turned away from natural science technology, I doubled down on the natural science to a greater extent each year. Still not enough to even keep the still-lucrative trailing edge of technology from slipping away.

That's why I say if all you're considering is what can be done with a computer in combination with things like chemistry, biology, physics or materials, that would be limiting yourself to things that zillions of other people are getting better at all the time.

When you work with the physical materials themselves there are far more unexploited opportunities that nobody is working on because for decades too many students having the greatest potential are spending all their time on computer science instead.

The "building blocks" for a new Bell Lab aren't even available any more, they need to be "baked" for about 40 years before you could even build a foundation now.
tiktok isn't a publication and the ease with which people can post on other platforms as well as their relationship to the platform is relevant
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I think it's more the other way round, that they don't want others to have the same powers they do?

If you control the "last mile" infrastructure, you have a
pretty good idea what's going on. If you control the mobile network, you can track everyone, and flash their baseband processor if you like.

(see also: concerns about Huawei equipment in our internet infrastructure)

The documents that Snowden released confirmed that this kind of thing was going on. To be honest, I don't think that really surprised anyone in the security community.

We just don't want China to have the same power to monitor our citizens as we have ourselves.
Aside from the whole self hosting ethos, if you are hosting it from a home server and you are the primary user, you will get a nice performance boost. Downloading binaries, cloning repositories will be instant. If you use CI, it will be running on an actual machine rather than 10% of some 2GHz cloud CPU.

I regularly have to upload multi GB images to a VPS and it's very annoying when it takes like 10 minutes.
Is fogejo the platform that codeberg uses?
No, we've seen this happen before in China, where some US company becomes popular, e.g. millions of people in China have bought iPhones.

Then China requires the company's operations in China to be more than 50% owned by China. The TikTok thing is very much "what's good for the goose", but it's also the US acting more like China the authoritarian country.
Useful examples could be added to

tldr ffmpeg

See [1]. Regarding security concerns: agreed! We should generate one-shot jails before firing up 'curl | sh' or 'llm CLI'.

[1] https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr/blob/main/pages/common/ff...
Emissions are a collective action problem. Guilt tripping works poorly directly on behaviour but it works on awareness&public discourse -> voting -> policy.

Cf how we addressed the ozone hole, acid rain, slavery, etc.
Correct. Buying things manufactured in China is not the same as a CCP controlled a social media algorithm. They're extremely different things with extremely different impacts. Thus one can be ok and one can not.

The issue isn't money going to CCP. The issue is data and CCP control of the algorithm.
For sure, however if you bothered to read it, MISRA verifiers and Deputy are given as examples from prior art.
You mention “grey zone conflicts” then opine that people don’t know what that is…then don’t actually explain what it is!
People are downvoting you because it is simply due to the different materials and building methodologies of the past.

Things took much longer to build and were much more expensive, but they were very durable as an effect.

There were no plastic hot tubs in Pompeii that burned when the pyroclastic flow swept past.
Alternatively, we can standardize the environment. It takes humans weeks to adapt to a new interface or starting point. Why would ai be different?
Yes, occam's razor would suggest the government randomly decided exactly now was the time to start working in our best interests, and also those interests are super secret and have absolutely nothing to do with recent geopolitical happenings nor anything to do with the stated beliefs of the politicians driving the government.
FWIW this is the advantage of being able to run in the cloud and on perm

If we have to we can “burst” into the cloud
This is always true any time you have more than 1 human involved. People can always become corrupt and dishonest, and no technological solution will solve that.
From the comment you're replying to:

>> China gives you a list of requirements to operate in the country, if you meet it, you can operate.

Some US companies (like Google) choose not to operate there because they don't want to put up with harassment and intellectual property theft that comes with having offices on the mainland.
I think we're talking past each other. Tech hiring biases, implicitly, for stuff that's considered to be culturally normative. That's not just about gender labels or how someone looks. It's also about stuff like how the applicant phrases and delivers answers to questions. The high-confidence and authoritative tone used by many western white male engineers tends to be -- again, implicitly -- preferred, over, for example, a more nuanced and lower-confidence response that might be delivered by a non-western woman engineer.
Basically, they rewrote the slow parts in Rust, but that’s only included in the propertary version. The open source one is the one they know has terrible performance.

I don’t get why people want to me part of a community where the steward treats them in such a shitty way.
Like any free speech absolutists, it's all fun and games until it's directed against you. And for Elon Musk there's plenty of scope for legitimate criticism of what looks like a tyrant.
Chase Hughes:

"Manipulation Playbook: The 20 Indicators of Reality Control"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3AN2wY4qAM
yeah because the issue isn't money going to china its prc control over a major social media platform
I on the other hand DO get this complaint. It’s less about the “word order” and more remembering the words to type. As a software engineer I have to google stuff all the time. I haven’t touched C#’s PLINQ in five years, I doubt I could do it from memory. Likewise, I can count on one hand the number of times I will set up a systemd service in a given year.

Many (most?) of us are all over the place, expected to “wear many hats” and aren’t in a single IDE or language all day every day. Certainly if I were a “Linux admin” I would have systemd pretty committed to memory. Anyone else probably wouldn’t.
What I’m thinking of is to use the _redirect file as a manual DDNS with cloudflare pages as a stable url that points to an ephemeral TryCloudflare address of a temp PDS running on my laptop. Does the validation scheme follow through HTTPS redirects?
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