skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Legally? As in do you have a right to? No. You accepted terms and conditions when you bought a ticket, and they will prohibit you from broadcasting. So it’s a breach of contract if you do that.

I do wonder what the intersection of that with viewing rights is. You can probably report what you saw on screen in real time because that’s happening in your home. But who really knows…
Trump has also said that wind turbines harm whales.
I agree that there are differences between a publication and a platform, but they are relatively subtle. And as long as the argument is "China through TikTok can influence which content is popular or allowed to be published at all", then that is leaning into the publisher-like aspects of TikTok, not the platform-like ones: and it is precisely these rights that are protected.

Just to give an example of what would be concerns of the platform aspect of TikTok, that would be concerns about the ability for the app to deploy malicious code to users' phones, or the amount of data that it siphons off legally. But those are de-emphasised in favor of their control on content, which is precisely what's supposed to be protected by the Constitution.
would you say the same thing about Meta and Google? Clearly social media monopoly is not the issue. In fact, USA government want US dominance in global social media, digital world, and digital marketplaces.
Intel and Windows have been birds of a feather for 40 years, and it frustrates me that to this day Intel is still designing its CPUs around Windows. Yes, Windows is “#1” in market share. It’s just sad that the world accepts the ads in Windows 11, Teams being an electron app, x86 when ARM is the clear winner (at least for laptops), all the other Windows nonsense.
Blatantly pandering to Donald Trump is the new ESG, DEI and woke combined for silicon valleys
What would be the offended principle that makes going tit-for-tat with China "hypocritical"?
This. I suggest to read Unrestricted Warfare to understand more on how TikTok (or FB, X, Instagram and such) can be used as tools in modern conflict.
> The terminology is used outside of legal contexts in ways that transcend borders.

To clarify, the FBI and DHS publications I cited are not actually using the term in a "legal context", strictly speaking. Presently, US federal criminal law does not use the term CSAM; if the FBI or DHS arrest someone for "CSAM", they might use that term in a press release describing the arrest, but the formal criminal charges will be expressed without using it.

> To the best of my knowledge, the terms "CSAM" and "CSEM" were coined outside of legal contexts, for the purposes I described above.

This is where I doubt you – did the people who originally coined the term "CSAM" intend to exclude AI-generated images from the term's scope? You are assuming they did, but I'm not convinced you are right. I suspect you may be projecting your own views about how the term should be defined on to the people who originated it.
I wonder how much ByteDance got from the incoming administration to pull that stunt. Super shady. "We voluntarily shut down our service in your country (er, I mean, we HAD TO, for real!) but don't worry, a true hero is soon arriving to save the day!"
This could be mitigited by having a special secret token in this honeypot URL that limits the time validity of the honeypot url and limits the IP address that this URL is for, let's say: hhtp://example/honeypot/hex(sha256(ipaddress | today(yyyy-mm-dd) | secret))

This special URL with the token would be in an anchor tag somewhere in the footer of every website, but hidden by a CSS rule and "Disallow: /honeypot" rule would be included in robots.txt.
The US government forcing spinoffs is a core tenant of antitrust enforcement.
We’ve seen similar enforcement applied to other applications like Grindr [1].

The fundamental issue is ByteDance ownership. Forced divestiture due to legitimate concern for potential abuses is perfectly acceptable whether by a financial or national security rationale.

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1 - https://www.axios.com/2024/04/27/biden-tiktok-sale-grindr
“conform, and you will have no further problems from us” makes a lot more sense to me why google called their control plane “borg”
Are you saying the United States is a bastion of democracy? It's not even classified as a full democracy. The list of full democracies are Canada, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Costa Rica, Uruguay, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, Taiwan, and Mauritius.

United States is classified as a flawed democracy. Partly because sweeping decisions like this one are made by Supreme Court Justices who nobody voted for and who hold their position for life.

Or maybe that's what you meant and you were being sarcastic with the quotation marks around "bastion of democracy"?
I'll bet none of the people responding here actually read the Supreme Court decision.

This isn't about data that people agreed to allow ByteDance to scrape. It's about ByteDance going beyond that and scraping contact information of NON-TikTok users, which could be used for blackmail or in other illegal and adversarial ways.

Everyone knows U.S. companies gather user data. Oracle had been doing it for decades. This is not the issue and not at all why TikTok has been banned.

The difference is that ByteDance was blatantly going after data that was legally not within their rights to grab; NON-TikTok user data on TikTok user's devices.

In addition, there are hints in the decision that the FBI provided evidence that China was using this information for adversarial purposes.

The decision very clearly walks through the First Amendment issues in relation to foreign adversaries and explicitly states that this is a singular decision.

It would have been VERY EASY for ByteDance to stop scraping data or to find a U.S. partner to host the data of U.S. Citizens. I've worked at global consulting firms and Germany requires this. All German citizen data must be hosted in their country. This isn't anything new. Companies make these kinds of compromises all the time and have for decades. Some companies explicitly state their data has to be on-prem or not in AWS. As an enterprise architect, I make these kinds of design decisions all the time. (Scenario: If customer is located in XYZ country, where do we store their data?)

ByteDance simply refused because even though they claim they are not handing data over to the Chinese Intelligence Service, they ACT LIKE THEY ARE.

None of this will matter in a few months. There are active projects to build Instagram and TikTok clones on the atProto network (Bluesky) which will serve the same content without advertising and without an algorithm. There will be Feeds for cat videos, pirate dress up videos, and APT dance videos and I'm 100% sure all the users that join that service will completely forget about TikTok. And the moderation will be given to the users so they can decide what to see.
> We have 136 of these things. Not thousands.

That's a number within an order of magnitude, and you're presumably not the largest provider.

> No two providers has the same customers, meaning the workloads vary quite a lot, and a lot of the "professional" developers you're talking about all have jobs that rent this compute.

If you own something and you've having problems with it, you're more inclined to try to solve them. If you're renting something and you have problems with it, you're more inclined to rent something else instead.

> These GPUs are enterprise, they only come in one form factor. It is a 350lbs box that takes 10kW of power and some pretty serious cooling. It costs as much as an expensive Ferrari.

Making only 4-socket systems was a choice.

You're also acting like multiple SKUs are something weird. Start offering Ryzen APUs with some on-package GDDR or HBM. Make something that fits in the Threadripper socket and uses PCIe power connectors for extra power. People would buy these things.

The point is to create lots of systems in the hands of lots of people that use the same general hardware architecture so that you're improving its software support.
What you're describing is not how it works. Chiefly, the hiring pipelines are not set up for a single role, but a whole family of them. They are filled ahead of need. (Or were, at a time when this would've been taking place.)

There are other inaccuracies, but suffice it to say, this comment section is full of comments by people who have never been hiring managers talking about how hiring works.
There's plenty of openly gay Chinese RedNote influencers, as there have been for years now [1]. I don't know why you're pushing disinformation. The Americans getting banned probably just violated their ToS, since they were in Chinese and they couldn't understand them.

[1] https://www.xiaohongshu.com/search_result?keyword=gay (requires log-in)
Oh totally forgot about homebrew installer. I'll fix it ASAP. Sorry about that.

Edit:
Working on a fix here https://github.com/bodo-run/yek/pull/14

You can use the bash installer on macOS for now. You can read the installer file before executing it if you're not sure if it is safe
> america and americans should be able to view any media and still come to the best conclusions

I’m rather confused how do you think that is somehow connected with:

> horrible crutch that suggests america is already dead and gone

If you believe that then surely you must also believe that it was never “alive” in the first place?

Americans certainly didn’t have unrestricted access to any type of media in ta past. In fact it was heavily centralized and controlled by a small number of entities. One might argue that the decentralization starting with cable television/etc. and then internet led us to where we are.

Everyone used to be watching the same handful of television channels (which were relatively “apolitical” anyway) and a small number of available newspapers. It’s rather obvious why it was much easier to reach societal consensus on most issues compared to these days…
You can always quote/embed the thread you're replying to "own" the reply that you're making.

I think you can understand the point I'm trying to make if you keep in mind that Bsky is essentially a microblog. (For the dinosaurs, a newspaper)

Each profile gets the right and the burden/responsibility of moderating/editorializing their page as they see fit.
It's _totally normal_ that you can't force a newspaper or a blog to publish content that they don't want to publish. And in the meatspace, if you want to get your voice/reply/commentary heard, you make your own blog/newspaper.

People have the right to make their voice/opinion/commentary heard, but you can't force other people to associate/publish/republish your message to their readers. You have the right to your own opinion, but only on your own personal forum, otherwise it's open to the court of public opinion and can be restricted if on someone else's forum.
There are much bigger factors at play than a few billion dollars
Just look at the decision lists on Oyez or Scotusblog? Big decisions are more likely to be split than small ones but SCOTUS hears many many cases that get almost no media attention, most of which are decided unanimously.

Approximately 50% of rulings are unanimous each year now. https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-unan...

In the past, it was even more so.
I don't know why you think it's randomly (or recently) decided -- it started in 2020 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_TikTok_in_the_...), culminating in this act (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protecting_Americans_from_Fore...) banning the app, which passed 360-58.

Have you ever gotten 36 people to agree to something, let alone 360? There's obviously more to this that we aren't aware of.
All the real documentation for this is likely to be classified, but here's

a backdoor: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/replicant-developers-fin...

a patent for doing it in "civilian" applications: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013114317A1/en

sure, the NSA will respect that
Interesting that a Romainian sounding username wouldn't mention the mess with Romanian presidential election where tiktok played a major role. The threat seems very real
Said 'bastion of democracy' is a flawd democracy [1] who voted in a president who allegedly (facepalm) initiated a coup and got away with it. Also, a convicted criminal.

You could say it is a bastion of liberty but I'm from Europe and women here have reasonable abortion and sexuality rights.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Inde...
Somewhat tangential, but the only software I know of that's written in Haskell is ImplicitCAD https://implicitcad.org/
Skype and Lync, surface, windows subsystem for linux, AD to Entra, 10S, "whatever for enterprise", whatever for teams, one, one s, one x, windows phone, windows mobile, windows mobile 8, service pack became anniversary update became creators update. Let's not even get started on things like Visual C++ redistributable runtime framework package for desktop bridge (not making that up).
China can buy private data from Metastasis just like anyone else. This argument is bunk.
Sure, when I use ${Chinese_App}, I expect a Chinese bias to the algorithm. Same with every other aggregation service or media provider. Same way I expect a US bias to moderation here or on other US sites.
The choice doesn't have to be binary. There can be multiple factors, which should all be discussed.

Dismissing a frequently reported on factor that mentioned by officials requires a higher burden than vague commentary on narrative shaping. Trying to minimize it despite factual statements is its own narrative.
Word, I imagine there are all kinds of shenanigans at play, I'm just not spending that much effort thinking about it. We'll never know the complete story on any of this stuff. Maybe in tens of years, if ever.
Also Twitter (Trump/Musk) would never push for regime changes in Europe.

(For anyone out of the loop, see https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-backs-far-right-afd-in-contr...)
> US social media startup
Biden could have cut a deal with TikTok instead of this. That would have left the US with a least one major social media not in the pocket of Trump.
They are just practicing Oligarchical Collectivism.
All of these problems are solved by implementations that have been around for ~15 years.

Eg: LUKS. It doesn’t use the passphrase to derive the key, but rather encrypts the key using the passphrase. This allows users to change their password and allows having multiple users with different passwords.
Indeed. It's the road to open government censorship. There is no grey area when it comes to freedom of speech.
It's a recorded audio file, not an opinion or hearsay, so I don't think the leaking organization matters.

Would you feel better if an anonymous user uploaded it to Reddit/Twitter/Tiktok?
Shellcheck is another useful one (linter for shell scripts)

https://www.shellcheck.net/
This whole line of argument from the parent comment and its ancestor seems to ignore we can see where certain evolutionary features reach local minima, like the retina of the human eye. It’s obviously not the fittest thing wrt the octopus retina, but does well enough you can read this.
Suddenly everyone uses copilot and the numbers are looking good /s
Most voters didn’t vote for that candidate though. They voted for a more moderate and not pro-Russia independent who was effectively guaranteed to win in the next round.

Establishment parties obviously didn’t like that outcome.
A special interest group called Meta.
Really cute and charming! And beyond the fun factor, I can see something like this subtly boosting morale.
No, the adder was all CMOS. But there are some BiCMOS drivers visible at the bottom of one of the photos. The NPN transistors are big squares, unlike the CMOS transistors.
Instead of censoring. Just teach the populace critical thinking to question the validity of all propagated information. Have public debates on what is correct about what the enemy is saying and what is wrong. Also teach the populace to have the same scrutiny about their own governments lies, like WMDs and such.
Do people believe that the US government's control over Instagram/Twitter/whatever are similar to the level of control China's government has over TikTok?

I'm not that educated on the subject (I think most people who are making claims either way about this aren't), but all my priors indicate to me that China's government collects data from and controls content (to be shown only to the western populace) in TikTok much more than the US government with US social media companies.

I understand the comparison, but I think the magnitude of the problem is very likely to be much higher with TikTok.
> The RedNote users are not into politics

I wonder why? Post about Taiwan or 89 or Winnie the Pooh and find out :)
It was censored in your version.
> All work (other than stuff which primarily benefits scalability for enormous deployments)

But anything that could be considered public infrastructure better be able to scale to millions of users!

I wish you had chosen to gatekeep some other features to differentiate between enterprises (with members numbering in 10^1 -- 10^6) the open version; public infra should ideally be able to handle >>10^6 members.
This is bizarre.. Maybe I'm wrong but is a president even allowed just unilaterally decide to revoke a law ?

Maybe the US should just create some privacy protections instead ?
Fair enough, but you should post your content elsewhere too, as a backup, and to reach more people perhaps.

While platforms dominate, instead of content dominating (see podcasts where this seems to be happening), you will always be a prisoner to what happens on the platform.
Libre is technically not an English word, but hopefully understandable enough ?
Why are you spreading misinformation? There's plenty of Chinese gay influencers on RedNote and there have been for years [0], saying LGBTQ talk there is banned is nonsensical. The ban waves are probably due to the app struggling to scale moderation to handle all the new people, including the ones disrespectful of Chinese societal norms.

[0] https://www.xiaohongshu.com/search_result?keyword=gay (requires log-in)
Interesting, so that doesn't have to be CCP to wield influence over TikTok, anyone can pay to a marketing firm to promote whatever they want.
What is Metastasis?
Half of the people are sub-100 IQ. It's very naive to understate the stupidity of some people and their capability to do harm if mislead. Especially when it comes to weaponized social media content from a main geopolitical adversary. Letting Tiktok continue will do far more harm to democracy than banning it.
Excuse me, what? They do it all the time. Vaccines and Israel's genocide are just the tip of the iceberg of the propaganda machine broadcast through Meta's services. Make no mistake, this is not about China.

TikTok had a huge negative impact on special interest groups that want to continue to allow the holocaust of our days to continue happening and the genocidal state to continue to behave with impunity.

The U.S. is already infiltrated by people working for foreign interests. The thing is, it's not infiltrated by China's or Russia's operatives.
You’re obviously not involved in the content creation world.
My partners main income source is selling a product via Instagram. While she puts a lot of effort into building her brand on other platforms to diversify as she recognises the risk, once you have an established and profitable audience on one platform you’d be silly not to continue to put effort into growing that. Also what works on one platform is different to the others, it’s not a simple copy and paste.
People generally are aware of this and try to diversify, but it’s not as easy as you might think.

Posts that get 5m+ views on one platform may only get 5000 on another.
let's be honest here. billionaires are the ruling class wherever they exist.
I think it's a stretch to say "PRC-controlled". I think the government has influence in working with ByteDance's board, not unlike in the US. This is the propaganda that has infected the American psyche. To think every single organization in China is an arm of the big bad communists. It's quite uninformed and ahistorical and political propaganda.
I love that kind of tech workplace comedy
The only difference is the manufacturer. But this is an important difference.
I disagree with the hypocrisy argument. The US government tried to clamp down on Covid misinformation during a pandemic, with a declared emergency and there was pushback that was adjudicated by the Supreme Court [1].

The US does plenty of sketchy shit, but it has nothing on the surveillance state imposed by the CCP, nor is it empowered to suppress information in the same manner.

The CCP’s censorship is so heavy handed that others have tried to weaponize it, as discussed recently here:

Tokyo University Used "Tiananmen Square" Keyword to Block Chinese Admissions [2].

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[1] - https://hms.harvard.edu/news/whats-stake-us-supreme-court-ca...

[2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42355586
And your point is? I mean you might agree or disagree but obviously the problem was a foreign entity controlling it and not the tracking part.

Also the keystroke part seem technically entirely not true and location is only partially correct.
The IPO is blocked because of the threat from US government.
Curious how well Caddy would run on an RPi. Not sure if it would come out ahead of Apache in practice. It's been my goto choice for a few years.
And vice versa. Codeberg is the official host of the sourcecode
Some IT departments spend years trying to drill "Lock your computer!" into people’s heads yet you need just really simple solution!
No banking system. I imagine without any money in ancient times, you could end up in trouble quickly.
Looks interesting but I’m not quite sure exactly what it is based on what I am seeing on the front page.
Stop. This is stupid. People are allowed to have opinions on politics in other countries. Every other country in the world sure as hell isn’t shy about opining on US elections. Then you want to act all indignant if the US opines on your elections? Fuck off.
Haha, this is pretty good. I’m going to take a plane to SF while I laugh at this.
Not enforcing laws by executive decision happens all the time. Whenever police "crack down" on something, that means they were previously letting stuff slide.
This underlying idea that the US state is “just the same” as Russia, China, etc. (and that as such they will function in the same way) is imho one the biggest factors on the decline of the quality of western democracy today. I’m not American, have only been there once a couple of days, and have no special sympathy for the country, but the fact that so many people do not understand that the US democracy is fundamentally different than the Russian or Chinese regimes is such a sad, depressing thing.
> the narrative was not under their control

Is the narrative on other platforms under their control? What does that even mean? US hardly has coherent narrative these days anyway or at least it changes every 4 years.

Regardless what benefits can you see in allowing the CCP to shape US public opinion in any way?
I fixed it, if you are close to the hole, you will get exact number to finish the game
I think the better framing is that ByteDance refused to comply with US regulations and spin off TikTok.

If the EU decided WhatsApp should be spun off from Meta (for any number of legitimate reasons) to continue operating there, we wouldn’t claim that the EU banned the app.
My position is questioning the PR work of the free software movement. Or do you think it is in best possible shape?
Haha. DEI is gone unless it’s pro-Trump.
My understanding is that the law doesn’t ban TikTok. The law gives the president the power to ban TikTok.
So the president can elect not to use said power.