skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
There are tasks in Traitors! They're done in a group with some things that traitors have different incentives for. But yes it makes it more like Among Us than werewolf!
> It was, and is, boo hoo so terrible when the prc forces American companies to engage in forced sales

Reciprocity is a standard part of trade. If you come down on foreign businesses in your country, don't be surprised when the same thing happens to your businesses in other countries.

When Trump threatens tariffs, other countries threaten to respond in kind. That's how trade basically always works. There's a reason why free trade deals focus on reducing restrictions going both ways.
The Secret to a Good Life? Thinking Like Socrates.
Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336. (That article seems to have the most additional info of the posts I looked at.)
A regular user who just downloads a build and runs it on their system (i.e. the most common use case, because it's the one that takes the least effort) also doesn't share anything. Why is it worse if a company does the exact same thing?
Looks like it’s back already lol.

The thing that made me confident was that the mentioned Trump by name (telling me they knew he was going to make a change).
For the first time in history, US and Chinese can communicate directly with each other using the Red Note app, despite the language barrier. I think this is a great social experiment and if it continuous for sometime it will be interesting to get statistics on perceptions from both sides (perhaps through a detailed academic study). We need more understanding between nations and less war mongering.
Is China upset about this? This just seems to be a huge American self-own (pun intended).
I feel the trackpoint is less relevant today on laptops considering designs like MacBook Pro or these Aura laptops that have massive touchpads that are easily reachable without much hand movement. I can mouse with my thumb on a MacBook trackpad without much downward shift in hand position, and I find that a faster and more accurate pointing device compared to the trackpoint.

The place I really want the trackpoint is on my Glove80 or Kinesis Advantage, with these ergo desktop split keyboards I really never want to move my hand to the mouse, yet there’s no easy way to get a trackpoint. For a while I lived with an Apple touchpad in between my glove80 splits but it doesn’t seem any quicker or more ergonomic than a good mouse, although it is a bit more compact. I would love to see a stand alone trackpoint stick “mouse” that could easily be adapted to a desktop ergo keyboard. The happy hacking keyboard has a variant with a trackpoint, but it’s hardly ergonomic and is missing various modifiers.
Probably the most impactful to your own life vote you can cast is the local municipal one. And that has such poor turnout among the youth it is crazy. Even in places where they mail you a ballot automatically and you have two weeks to vote at polls. People just don’t care to be engaged.
Honestly, gotta respect the hustle
The Siberian steppe is huge.
I live in Virginia.
I think the difference between these apps is that in China the "recommendation algorithm" is that the wrong sort of people just go missing. There's less heavy lifting for the app to do. That's why people like it more, it itself has a simpler agenda: make people enjoy using it.

In the US, for the most part, the app must do both surveillance and coercion, which is why the kids prefer the Chinese app.
> Is our society so fragile it'll fall apart if people are exposed to the wrong ideas?

This reductionism to "exposure to ideas" is absolutely absurd. TikTok and any other algorithmic feed isn't problematic because it exposes anyone to anything. They're problematic because those feeds can be used to actively shape behavior.

Shaping behavior is not very difficult if you have a lot of information about someone and control of what they see for hours a day. If shaping behavior didn't work no social media company would make the billions of dollars that they do. TikTok fads wouldn't exist if it was just a simple exposure to ideas.

TikTok in particular is worth targeting because of the way state security laws work in China. There's no legal issues with the state apparatus accessing company data. There's no judicial review. The state just has access to companies' back ends.

Since we know social media feeds can shape personal behavior and China can exert any control they want over Chinese companies, it's not a logical leap to realize a state hostile to interests of the North America and Europe having control over something people use for hours a day is a bad thing.

There's a whole cohort of the population for who TikTok is their primary source of "news". Their world view is shaped by what's presented to them. They're not "exposed to ideas" but targeted with specific narratives. Because all users have different targeting you may never see the same sort of feed as the person sitting next to you.
Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate.

Absurd that the Republicans are somehow going to swoop in and "Save the day" on an issue they themselves championed.
Next thread in the sequence:

TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users after Trump comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336 - Jan 2025 (22 comments)
Trump singed an EO that was reversed. Only one president showed interest in a law. Only one president whipped votes for that law. Only one president signed the law.
Sometimes I just feel like these people overestimate how much they are actually owed from these training runs.

It’s trained on 15T tokens. So how many did you provide that were genuinely novel? And how much money do you want? Like $5 from OpenAI? And $0 from meta since it’s open source?

I personally hope we can all get on the same team with AI and treat its advancement as scientific research for the betterment of humanity.
Anyone who actually cares the tiniest bit about antisemitism would have the decoupling of Israel and the Jewish identity as the first order of business. Nothing comes even close.

A state consistently using Jews to excuse its actions, behavior which is validated by US policymakers, it's just orders of magnitude worse than anything else, Israel has promoted antisemitism more in a year than every other group in the last 50 years put together.
Yes, I would like to unban these even if heroine and meth are crap, just put warning labels on them.
https://archive.ph/2025.01.15-101914/https://www.nytimes.com...
If I hadn't long time ago lost touch with the idea that Internet is a new global, rebellious space that transcends all limited, conservative, slow-moving nations, and that I can offer or use a service running wherever from wherever else I might be sitting as long as it's all connected to the internet, I'd be heartbroken to see services being stopped or driven away from within the borders of a certain geological area. But that train left the station so long time ago that the rails have all rusted since.

I can only expect the bar to geopartition Internet services due to financial, political, and militarian whims to go lower and lower until eventually there's no global internet left.

In any case, I'm glad I could see the 90's.
I don't have much of a horse in this race, and I wouldn't consider myself pro or anti-China but I do a significant amount of business in China just shy of 9 figures annually in terms of revenue and I have never once dealt with their government in any way shape or form.

I have absolutely no direct line to them, never given them any kickbacks, and I visit the country once or twice a year.

I have no doubt that there are businesses that do have significant dealings with the CCP, I would never believe otherwise, but the idea that every company has to have a direct line to them is objectively untrue. I know many other people who also do business with China and its mostly the same story, none of us deal with the government and frankly I would be very uncomfortable if ever I had to.
I cannot even imagine the indemnity provisions that were entered into by TikTok to give its network providers enough risk mitigation to turn the taps back on. As far as I can see, the app stores still are not listing ByteDance-related apps so it seems that TikTok could not assure Apple and Google.
Screen recording and processing because it's easier than just scraping now is wild.
The fact that we allow advertisement is a choice. Some countries choose to forbid advertisement for cigarettes, for example.

And yes, there is big difference between the US advertisement industry, which is at least in principle regulated by the US legal/government system and thus, US citizens, vs. the essentially unregulated propaganda-machine that is Tik Tok.

This is not to say that a ban is the only option here. But I am not convinced that other control options are effective, or less of a danger.
It’s not even protectionism. US is the only country in the world to honor unwritten free market rules. Simply because people here believe in it. All we want is reciprocity. US is not protecting the Googles and Facebooks of the world. No one told the RoW to have restrictive politics that kill innovations to the extent that their best talent rather come to the US to pursue their dreams.
Recent and related:

TikTok goes dark in the US - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42753396 - Jan 2025 (2187 comments)
I'm also an American - I think this action makes us look weak and scared. Like our tech can't compete with Chinese tech. Strong nations act according to a set of principles, even if doing so is sometimes inconvenient or dangerous. Weak nations are constantly compromising their principles in order to survive.
Yep, you have to take a metaphorical beating in life to cultivate humility. Empathy helps.

We are, broadly speaking, not special; just lucky to get paid to solve puzzles that happen to have some value in the current socioeconomic configuration.
“Fragile” trust? That trust has been beaten out of us at every turn for an entire generation. There is nothing fragile about American exceptionalism or the dream of achievement; we’ve just been shown repeatedly that we are becoming the third-world bully regime in the eyes of the world and, increasingly, in our own.

Every bad thing we’ve been taught to believe about China or Russia, it turns out we do too and often worse. So what loyalty should we have? What has democracy and capitalism done for us but bankrupt our seniors with medical debt and addict our children to iPads and amphetamines?

I’d love to be able to trust my government and the American ideal again, but don’t tell me I’m weak for second-guessing the whole con game this century is turning into.
User identities are not user data. Your identity is only lost if you used an identity provider that shut down. Your data is separately stored. You can, in effect, own your bluesky identity forever, even if every BS server shuts down, so long as DNS still exists and functions.
It is in China though...
I really hate Trump, but the guy is a media (read: not political) genius. I doubt there will ever be someone like him in the Republican, or any party again.
Congress writes laws and the president is supposed to implement and enforce them. It’s like Americans have completely forgotten about this part.

The TikTok ban was upheld by the Supreme Court only days ago. If Americans don’t want this law, they should elect a different Congress.
Until he didn’t because a major donor to him has a 15% stake in it. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/14/trump-tiktok-billio...
Wasn't there a 13 years age limit in the US?
Yeah. Other than the trackpoint, there are a number of vendors that used to sell pretty solid machines with easy to replace batteries. The trackpoint was the only thing you had a tough time getting anywhere else.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336
Since corporations are not "citizens" the issue has nothing to do with citizenship. It makes sense that laws sometimes discriminate between citizens and non-citizens, just like they discriminate between adults and children. For example, when it comes to immigration and freedom of movement. But that is not an argument for arbitrarily discriminatory laws. A foreigner and a citizen convicted of murder gets the same punishment. A Chinese oligarch owning TikTok is no more of a threat to "American democracy" (or whatever, not like there's much left of it) than Elon Musk owning Twitter is.
What's that saying? The best way to get a promotion is to cause a problem and then fix it?

Political things aside, it's crazy to see so much of a flip-flop so quickly. Has there been any other behavior like this in the past where a company "shut themselves down" to make a big political statement and then almost immediately undid the shut down?
Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336.
It passed the Senate by the safely veto-proof margin 79–18
And yet the exact same algorithm used by a platform owned by another country would not be banned. Thus, it is not actually content-based.
> Man, the current democratic party just does not know how to solve problems in a way that people appreciate.

What would have been a solution to the problem that people would have appreciated?
What's that old robotics industry saying?

"You either die trying to scale ROS to production, or you live long enough to repeatedly reinvent it?" - Johnny 5
Haha!! Fair enough :D
The ban had bi-partisan support. Trump was initially for the ban and then changed his mind. On Aug. 6, 2020, Trump signed Executive Order 13942, which sought to ban TikTok in response to national security concerns. Courts struck it down.

He expressed his changed opinion in 2024. Was it because he met with Jeff Yass who holds 7% of ByteDance (which owns TikTok) and is a major Republican donor? Who knows.

But what is clear is that this is again morphing into a talking point against the Democrats even though all of this started with Trump initially.
Until you understand that the core of unix time is the "day", in the end, you only need to know the first leap year (If I recall properly it is 1972), then you have to handle the "rules" of leap years, and you will be ok (wikipedia I think, don't use google anymore since they now force javascript upon new web engines).

I did write such code in RISC-V assembly (for a custom command line on linux to output the statx syscall output). Then, don't be scared, with a bit of motivation, you'll figure it out.
The most important thing is to own your own domain/urls. URLs are forever.

Own your own domain and anything is possible. Build on someone else's domain and you are always a serf.

yourname.substack.com is worthless and can be taken away at any time. blog.yourname.com can never be taken away[1].

[1] It can be taken away, but if it comes to that point you probably have bigger problems.
It has nothing to do with your data. That whole thing is a red herring.

The risk with TikTok is that it presents media entirely algorithmically, and that algorithm is controllable by the Chinese government and is opaque to everyone else.
Looking forward to these hitting the resell market. I will be a buyer.
Other thing would not be expected in a war driven society, where being a legionary was quite common, and very few managed to return back (alive) to civil life after doing their part on the assigned legion.
From his footnotes:

> I was able to find a reasonable amount of AVIF HDR images, but HEIC HDR is nowhere to be found.

Anything taken by an iPhone camera is an HDR HEIF image… sort of. For backwards compatibility reasons it's an SDR image with an additional attached image called a gain map that HDRifies it. (This is mathematically worse for a reason I don't remember; it causes any picture taken at a concert with blacklights or blue spotlights to look bad. Once you see this you'll never unsee it.)

I believe the very newest Sony cameras can also save HEIF images, however I don't feel like spending $2500 to upgrade my second-to-newest A7 to a newest A7 to find out.

Lightroom also recently added HDR editing so maybe it can export them now?
I don't see the downside to Americans as a result of this. Meanwhile, China lost a valuable propaganda tool.

Or, would have. It's all a moot point now that the appeal to Trump's ego worked.
It's a de facto entry level advertising tier for the worst products and the worst takes. Everything on the platform is an ad impression.
often the reason is because it wasn’t true or they were told and weren’t listening!
Would’ve been pretty dumb not to with how much money is on the table here
Yes! Whatever blog solution you choose, buy your own domain name. I personally use Namecheap, I have heard good things about Porkbun. That way you can always control the flow of link traffic.

And set up a mailing list! If you use Substack, buy a domain name. Otherwise you can use ConvertKit, Ghost, etc., and collect your reader's emails directly.
This seems like a very small amount of money to pay to help remove your biggest competitor in your largest market.
This article is from April 2024.

Please don't editorialize titles. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
Discover feeds, if they try to be actually relevant to the user, can be a great tool for finding new people to follow and help keep the following feed fresh. I primarily follow artists on Twit-alikes and it’s how I once upon a time used it on Twitter and now use it on Bluesky.

A discover feed that’s not adversarial isn’t strictly necessary but it’s a significant selling point.
“Copyright © 2024 — BloomTech Inc.”[1]

Isn’t this the same BloomTech founded by Austen Allred that was subject of all of the hubbub for running coding bootcamps (“Lambda”, “BloomTech”) that got into all sorts of trouble a while back for (according to the US Government) deceiving students? [2]

“government agency banned Allred from student-lending activities for 10 years and permanently banned BloomTech from all consumer-lending activities. In addition, BloomTech must pay $64,000 and Allred must pay $100,000 in civil penalties, which will go toward a victim relief fund” [3]

Maybe that explains the “free of charge” part of it. lol

sources:

1
https://www.gauntletai.com/

2
https://www.consumerfinance.gov/enforcement/actions/bloomtec...

3
https://www.businessinsider.com/bloomtech-lambda-school-aust...
All this and it was only 40% Chinese-owned???
You can't die and OD from TikTok usage, and believe it or not many benefit from it. There's little inherent benefit to cocaine.
I don't understand how this game gained so much popularity, because it's impossible to get any kind of reliable information in this game. For example, you have an ability that let's you ask the game master (in private) about whether one person is evil or not (their alliance). The game master is going to give you an answer, BUT it's possible that the answer is not the truth, because:

* you are drunk (which you don't know about)

* you were poisoned that night (which you don't know about)

* the target might be protected in some way (which you don't know about)

* some powers literally let the game master decide if they work or not (you will not be told it did not work)

Imagine the first few nights of mafia style games, where nobody knows anything, so everybody is just going on hunches and feelings. That's Blood on the clocktower for almost all the nights.
Facebook needs to be banned too if disinformation is your concern
Certainly doesn't help that he has Shou Zi Chew kowtowing about how Trump saved the app and how Trump beat the "others'" unmitigated censorship
How so? The law was passed by democratically elected representatives in the US government.
There was never a freedom of speech argument here, unless maybe you are china. There are endless similar platforms available to individuals to express themselves on. Ones that aren't owned and controlled by China... America's biggest technological rival.
The US passes many laws about traffic safety, and yet much of US road design is actually deeply unsafe. Inconsistent sure, but that doesn't mean they were lying about the unsafe things they did ban.

> The reason TikTok being owned by China is considered a problem is because it could allow China to control what American citizens see on their timelines - the content.

It's the PRC control part that's the key here though. There's nothing banning even blatantly pro-PRC content on other platforms. You can find plenty of tankies praising China over the US to high heaven on places like Reddit.
the problem is basically your whole worldview is wrong
And just like that Trump overturns it. Lost opportunity to actually break the psychological hold tiktok has on people. How can a single branch (in this case one person) override the other two branches of government? I thought that's what checks and balances were all about? The farther we get from "well that's a law, but we are going to selectively enforce it" the worse we will get as a society (see the former DA Gascons Los Angeles policy on not enforcing theft). Repeal the laws that don't make sense and enforce the ones on the books. The alternative is that we will continue to accumulate laws to the point everything is illegal and their enforcement determined by individuals which is effectively the same as no laws and everyone is subject to those with power. That is an existential threat to freedom.
The issue is Trump doesn’t have legal authority to issue an executive order delaying the ban, executive orders “execute” the law, delaying would be the opposite of the law, a law that was held up 9–0 as constitutional by the Supreme Court face palm
Radiometry, part 2: Spectra and photometry
> against arbitrary censorship

Such hypocrisy given that the non-China version of TikTok is banned in China.
Masterful PR move by Trump. Two ways to win, no way to lose: he gets control of the narrative there (if not TikTok itself, via one of his cronies), and he shows how totalitarian the "democrats" are.
You sound like someone who doesn't use TikTok and therefore isn't affected by this anyway. So your opinion doesn't matter
Publish the algorithm. Allow users to choose which algorithm they want to use.
well US copyright law statutory damages are $30,000 per work infringed, and $150,000 if done deliberately

so I think $150,000 per copyrighted work ingested is fair
The TikTok debate has always been about the balance between national security and free speech.

We found a compromise. TikTok will remain, all of its national security risks will remain. Also, the law that tramples free speech is upheld by the court, but will be blantently ignored and unenforced.

Everybody loses. This outcome is worse than anyone could have conceived.
Assuming the works have registered with the copyright office they're eligible for statutory damages.

The range for that is huge though, it can be in the hundreds of dollars per work, or if the infringement is shown to be wilful then a judge can award up to $150,000 per work.