skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Not exclusively cars but Hyundai got into the game early, buying pure car carriers in the 80’s:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMM_(company)
> So your silly demand going unmet proves nothing.

I made demands of no one.

> Also, "give me an example please" is not a strawman!

My identification of the strawman was that it referenced "find something hard" when I had said "be the hero they want" and that what is needed in this specific problem domain may be more difficult than what a generalization addresses.

> If you actually want to prove something, you need to show at least one document in the set that a human can do but not a machine, or to really make a good point you need to show that a non-neglibile fraction fit that description.

Maybe this is the proof you demand.

LLM's are statistical prediction algorithms. As such, they are nondeterministic and, therefore, provide no guarantees as to the correctness of their output.

The National Archives have specific artifacts requiring precise textual data extraction.

Use of nondeterministic tools known to produce provably incorrect results eliminate their applicability in this workflow due to all of their output requiring human review. This is an unnecessary step and can be eliminated by the human reading the original text themself.

Does that satisfy your demand?
Thank you :) I was wondering how this would look in TLA+/PlusCal.
More constructively, the middle ground of asking a doctor about some minor symptoms over async messaging or tele-appointments (whatever the term for those is), is probably always something to consider for the trivial stuff.
In my country there's a lot of institutional hype about green algorithms. I find the whole idea quite irrelevant (for the reasons explained in this post) but of course, it's a way to get funding for those of us who work in AI/NLP (we don't have much money for GPUs and can't do things like training big LLMs, so it's easy to pitch everything we do as "green", and then get funding because that's considered strategic and yadda yadda).

It's funny, but sad, how no one calls the billshit because we would be sabotaging ourselves.
Meat and dairy specifically accounts for around 14.5% of global greenhouse gas emissions, according to the UN’s Food and Agricultural Organization (FAO).

If people collectively just ate a bit less meat and dairy, it would go a long way. Don't even have to be perfect. Just show a little bit of restraint.
> Furthermore, due to the fact that you're reading and re-writing word for word of whatever you're transcribing, the stories you end up reading have tremendous memory-stick. This is not surprising, considering that you are dedicating an inordinate amount of time per page, but it's a welcome side effect when you try and recollect.

This was something I enjoyed when I decided to learn a language by translating short stories. (Edit: Of course, you have to choose an author whose diction you respect. Your unfamiliarity with the target language encourages you to mull over the author's use of diction and the nuances the author is trying to convey, and then find appropriate diction in English. This means you spend a long time immersed in the imagery.)
Potatoes have almost double the glycemic index of a banana, meaning that the impact on metabolism and insulin production is greater and faster.
My partner works in emergency. Someone came in with a blister on their finger yesterday. They had to see the patient and send them home with a bandaid. Not a good use of resources.
To be fair there was a similar discussion a few days ago in which an SME remained unconvinced: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42566391

I don't necessarily agree with her conclusion because she wasn't participating directly in the thread and wasn't completely responsive to some of the points raised, but still, it appears that there are a few instances of difficult-to-read handwriting where OCR is still coming in second to skilled human interpretation.
So this article says
> Evidently, a city full of deranged arsonists began to hyperventilate and frantically collate their kits of accelerants and blow torches. ABC7 reported at least 300 fires were started intentionally during this period…

But the link is to an ABC7 news story of one fire suspected as arson with a suspect in custody. The source cited here definitely doesn’t back up this very sensational claim of 300 arsons. People sure can make stuff up about 300 times faster than anyone can fact check it!
Building a keyboard for a 1985 Casio FX-451 calculator [video]
This is exactly why in https://github.com/OpenAdaptAI/OpenAdapt:

1. Our goal is to automate repetitive tasks (not simple one off tasks that need human input, but repetitive tasks that human shouldn't be doing in the first place), and

2. The way we do this is by grounding in human demonstrations, so that the model has strict guardrails around what it can and can't do.
Not being rude was also an option

Refraining from reflexively pooh-poohing AI with uninformed and/or out-of-date opinions is also an option, but not one often exercised on HN.

It gets old not being able to carry on a discussion without squinting at grayed-out text, simply because someone pointed out that humans aren't robots and should no longer have to emulate them.
Reviewing the OG Attention Paper
DEFCON Quals challenge incoming.
I did a bit of research and even water just "involved" in the process is counted as used in this context. For instance river water that is used for cooling and returned is counted.

I think these sort of graphs are simply misleading and should not be used.
Blockade? That’s quite some hyperbole. A blockade is an act of war.
For an excellent alternate viewpoint that focuses on making homes stop burning in (and thus spreading) local wildfires and then letting them burn:

https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/built-to-burn/

This is absolutely an acceptable path forward, and was proposed decades ago. It’s been essentially ignored in building codes and homeowner requirements, but if you own a home or know someone whose home is in a fire zone — which is any home between the Cascades and the coastline where there’s a contiguous (no gaps larger than a mile) line of homes and/or flammable unmanaged land eastward from the house to the nearest forest (i.e. all of Marin county) — then focusing on the home modifications described in this story may save that home, and perhaps all of those west of it, when fire visits them eventually.
Not only did it require specific legislation, but it had the near unanimous support of all 3 branches of the government (if you exclude the shifts in presidential opinion)
This assumes all emissions / externalities are created equal, which they are not.
I’m not an expert, but I’ve seen multiple reports that predict very large increases in electricity demand.

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/AI-poised-to-...
That doesn't solve the problem
> People are protesting because it's cool to do especially when you're a rebellious youngster but I'm pretty convinced it's going to fizzle out.

Just wait until the Chinese government realizes young American social media users have no problems talking about politics, sex, and drugs on social media.

We'll see how long open platforms with citizens of both countries last.
In India, most delivery apps have PWA variants which include tobacco products that aren't available in the mobile apps. These PWAs work fine and I don't see any difference in performance.
> "Emissions caused by chatgpt use are not significant in comparison to everything else."

Emissions directly caused by Average Joe using ChatGPT is not significant compared to everything else. 50,000 questions is a lot for an individual using ChatGPT casually, but nothing for the businesses using ChatGPT to crunch data. 50,000 "questions" will be lucky to get you through the hour.

Those businesses aren't crunching data just for the sake of it. They are doing so ultimately because that very same aforementioned Average Joe is going to buy something that was produced out of that data crunching. It is the indirect use that raises the "ChatGPT is bad for the environment" alarm. At very least, we at least don't have a good handle on what the actual scale is. How many indirect "questions" am I asking ChatGPT daily?
yes, but in practice, I believe people spam __syncthreads() in GPU kernels just to ensure correctness. There is value in statically proving that you don't need a synchronization instruction at a certain point. Doubly more so in the transpilation case, when you now find your naive __syncthreads() being called multiple times due to it being present in CUDA code(or MLIR in this case).

An interesting add on to me would be the handling of conditionals. Because newer GPUs have independent thread scheduling which is not present in the older ones, you have to wonder what is the desired behaviour if you are using CPU execution as a debugger of sorts(or are just GPU poor). It'd be super cool to expose those semantics as a compiler flag for your transpiler, allowing me to potentially debug some code as if it ran on an ancient GPU like a K80 for some fast local debugging.

But the ambitious question here is this - if you take existing GPU code, run it through a transpiler and generate better code than handwritten OpenMP, do you need to maintain an OpenMP backend for the CPU in the first place? It'd be better to express everything in a more richer parallel model with support for nested synchronization right? And let the compiler handle the job of inter-converting between parallelism models. It's like saying if Pytorch 2.0 generates good Triton code, we could just transpile that to CPUs and get rid of the CPU backend. (of course triton doesn't support all patterns so you would fall back to aten, and this kind of goes for a toss)
I suspect that this was the original plan, and that the ban was a bluff in order to incentive this. Thus why both Biden and Trump are "panicking" about it.
Data center emissions probably 662% higher than big tech claims. Can it keep up the ruse?: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/15/data-cent...
That's not what the passages that I quoted say.
Proof and progress in mathematics (1994) [pdf]
The freedom to speak without having to be on camera. TikTok made it so millions of people could express themselves with filters and AI voices without having to be on camera. Or could dance along with a crowd asynchronously. There are so many more class of expression that if they were known people would advocate for their protection. To transplant a species to a new environment is to modify an ecosystem. At scale, it means silencing at least 15% of population with no credible alternative, no apparent migration path.
I mean, it's a literal net new expenditure of power and water. I also deeply doubt they have "no issue" with plane travel. You're just assuming the worst and most hypocritical position to someone, which seems deeply bad faith as well.

It's literally true that most of the AI vendors and their data center partners are writing off energy and water conservation targets they'd had for the near future because of LLM money. That is actually bad in the short and likely long term, especially as people use LLMs for increasingly frivolous things. Is it really necessary to have an LLM essentially do a "I'm Feeling Lucky" Google Search for you at some multiple of that environmental cost? Because that's what most of my friends and coworkers use ChatGPT for. Very rarely are they using it to get anything more complex than just searching wikipedia or documentation you could have had bookmarked.

A person has a choice of if they take a flight and if it's worth it for them. They have no power except for raising a complaint in public on if OpenAI or Google or whoever spends vast amounts of money and power to train some new model. If your bar is that no one is allowed to complain about a company burning energy unless they live a totally blameless life farming their own food without electricity then random companies will get to do any destructive act they want.
while we’re all promoting our moon phase apps, I made one for Apple Watch: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/moon-sign-simplicity-for-watch...
>The voting algorithm needs to change so that destructive (negative) campaigning is not so effective.

No algorithm is going to fix this, it's human nature. Negative campaigning has been a constant of elections since elections were invented. At best you can tamp down on the aggressive engagement feedback loops. We should probably do that, but it's good to stay realistic about outcomes.
China absolutely does pretend to be a democracy. They call it a "whole-process democracy".
No, there are definitely lots of people that straight up claim that CICO is a myth, some magic force makes some calories turn into fat or not turn into fat. Totally aside from the "'eat less' is hard advice to take" crowd (which is true). That former group has been proven incorrect.
I think you deserve your 50 cents for this post.
What a brilliant idea. I've had learning to read French on my list for a while now, I'm going to try transcription as another way at it.
The absolute best thing I've read on this subject is this article here: https://about.bnef.com/blog/liebreich-generative-ai-the-powe...

It talks at great length about data center trends relating to generative AI, from the perspective of someone who has been deeply involved in researching power usage and sustainability for two decades.

I made my own notes on that piece here (for if you don't have a half hour to spend reading the original): https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jan/12/generative-ai-the-powe...
I would be surprised if many people said it is unethical to use LLMs like ChatGPT for environmental reasons, as opposed to ethical principles such as encouraging unfair use of IP and copyright violation.

Still, LLM queries are not made equal. The environmental justification does not take into account for models querying other services, like the famous case where a single ChatGPT query resulted in thousands of HTTP requests.
> Tiktok doesn't push government propaganda to the same degree as Meta and Google.

Do you have a source for this claim?
Internet dummies, and you occasionally get crank doctors espousing these points of view too. Most doctors are smart, but, you know, there are a lot of doctors.
> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.
A relevant NY Times article. Mostly on factory built homes, but also has something on trusses for roofs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/08/headway/how-an-american-d...

"What may ultimately force the adoption of industrialized housing in the United States is a skilled labor shortage. This has already affected one area of home-building: roof trusses, the structural timber frameworks that support a roof. Trusses require precisely cutting angles, a skill few workers possess, and so the structures are now mostly made in factories."
I see people complaining that ChatGPT usage is unethical for environmental reasons all the time. Here's just the first example I found from a Bluesky search (this one focuses on water usage): https://bsky.app/profile/theferocity.bsky.social/post/3lfckq...

"the famous case where a single ChatGPT query resulted in thousands of HTTP requests"

Can you provide more information about that? I don't remember gearing about that one - was it a case of someone using ChatGPT to write code and not reviewing the result?
Doesn't seem to work on Firefox Android
> cheaper than anyone else on the market, but not by some huge margin - half the cost or so, at best.

I feel we should point out that none of us know what it actually costs SpaceX to run these rockets. Given that they have very ambitious goals, if their actual costs were much lower, the obvious move for them would be to price their launches only somewhat lower than their competitors anyways, take that extra money, and invest it right back into Starship development.

Indeed, one would think that if there wasn't actually that big of a gap between their costs and the prices they're charging, they'd never have enough money to even think about developing Starship. I don't see any other sources of big consistent $$$ for them, and surely they wouldn't bother trying if they weren't highly confident they'd have sufficiently reliable income to take the Starship all the way through development to a successful commercial version.
You're right, I could have phrased it better to something like:

"If we run P and Q concurrently with ‘n’ initialized to zero, what extreme interleaving could result in the lowest value of 'n' when the two processes finish executing their statements on a model checker?"

I'll edit it to improve, thanks.
Punch the monkey by double clicking it.
That's actually a pretty great idea! I will look into it! Thanks!
Right just a little bit of restraint. On an unprecedented scale of coordination by hundreds of millions to billions of people - a scale of cooperation that has probably never occurred in human history (and there's no reason to believe it will any time soon).

But sure, if people "just" did a "little", it would go a long way. Just a _little_ restraint from the entire population all at once in perpetuity. No big deal.
I was able to cut out 95% of meat without it being much trouble.
Occlupanids
Move west...
> The better solution is to allow parallel trade of pharmaceutical across borders.

No, no it's only a global economy when companies want to manufacture products using slaves in third world countries or they want to outsource programmers and call center employees, but not when consumers want to buy medications or DVDs at the prices they sell for in those same countries or even just want to get higher quality products they refuse to sell you here (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hershey-sues-shops-importing-br...)
You are right. Though for CO2 that simplification comes pretty close to true.
Sorta makes sense -- the first time Germany noticed Korea in the 80s is when their shipyards started outbidding the German ones.
When I last looked up the literature, Keto diet was one of the least effective interventions.

That is, if you follow it, I'm sure it works.

But the vast majority of people drop out of keto diets very quickly. So it's lousy advice and an unsuccessful intervention.

It's a bit like saying to a patient "you gotta sacrifice -- you should doing 3 hours a day of cardio". If they do follow through with it, it will work. But the vast majority of people won't be able to maintain doing that.
Yes, that theory was never very convincing to me. I grew up on welfare and now make software developer money. I can tell you that I definitely spend more on shoes now, even if they last longer.

Yes, a rich person and a poor person could try to buy the same items and the rich person might be able to buy them cheaper. But: first, when you have more money you generally want to buy nicer stuff, and the bang-for-buck generally goes down. Nicer shoes might cost twice as much, but they are perhaps twenty percent better. (And that's worth it for well-off people!)

Second, you can save a lot of money if you are willing to invest some time. From DIY or just generally shopping around. But: rich people's time is more expensive, even if just by opportunity costs.

From the Wikipedia article:

> In June 2024, the National Bureau of Economic Research from USA published a working paper expanding on the ONS findings, showing that cheapflation, a term the authors coined, is a global phenomenon:[21] "prices of cheaper goods increased at a faster rate than those of more expensive varieties of the same product",[22] thus placing a higher financial burden on poor people.

Funny enough, this observation is perfectly compatible with the notion that everyone, including poorer people, got richer over time as the economy grew, and so the cheapest and nastiest goods were removed from the market. The cheapest most basic TV you can buy today is miles better than what you could buy in the 1970s for example.
Like others suggested a basic step would be to use a certificate based approach where a company (or basically any deployment) gives out certificates for robots allowed to join and you only communicate with them.
Is that true though? Data centers can be placed anywhere in the USA, they could be placed near a bunch of hydro or wind farm resources in the western grid which has little coal anyways outside of one line from Utah to socal. The AI doesn’t have to be located anywhere near to where it is used since fiber is probably easier to run than a high voltage power line.
This massively lets the Philippines off the hook. China has a gazillion people, and so does India, and the rest of SE Asia is bad for pollution, but the Philippines — with 1.5% of the world’s population — is an incredible 36% of ocean plastic pollution.

Also a call-out to Malaysia who are an upper-middle income country and contribute far too much per capita given their income situation, but again, they are a drop in the ocean compared to the (much, much poorer) Philippines.

Having spent half my life in South-East Asia, there’s a cultural problem that needs fixing there.

A pretty graph that make it clear just how bad the most egregious polluters are comparatively: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ocean-plastic-waste-per-c...
You do this through the government. Implement meat rations. Everybody is only allowed so much meat per week. So you have to make it count.
I find the article's conflation of two topics involving cursive writing ignorant or disingenuous to the point that I almost wanted to respond with my own comment on that itself. If you study cursive writing in class, you are likely to learn simple and standard letterforms like Palmer script.

But the task requested by the National Archives is more akin to paleography where you can expect each author or work to have their own (region-based/family-based) handwriting that requires decipherment, even for experts. You may have encountered a coworker or schoolmate's indecipherable chicken scratch print writing; that is what you should expect, only cursive.
Ozempic helps many people make better long-term decisions about their diet than they would otherwise. Do you think no one without extraordinary willpower should be able to "live a good life?" The drug doesn't "do the thinking for you."
Possibly yes, I can't give you a number on how quick batman discovers neighbors (will look into that) but we poll it every second. For this use case it could work!
3 guesses! It would be fun to have other properties like melting point as hints.
I think this might be the first idea I've ever heard that I truly feel will backfire far worse than alcohol prohibition. I almost want to see it happen.
> Implement meat rations.

I don't think we can ever be friends.
"Driving to work" is hardly a "vote with your wallet" style consumer choice. Our housing, building, and transportation policies have been geared towards encouraging car-dependence for nearly a century. In places with better public transit and bike lanes, people spontaneously choose to use those modes of transport. Just like with companies dumping as much plastic waste/CO2 as they can get away with, this is a policy problem, plain and simple. No amount of pro-environment metal straw campaigns will solve it. At best environmentally-conscious messaging could encourage changes in voting behavior which influence policy. At worst people could be convinced that they're "doing their part" and fail to consider systemic changes.
Productivity is waste. A lot of us here build software and have this perverse idea that refactoring is value instead of waste.

There is an old saying "Redo in design creates value, redo in production creates waste". SpaceX is deciding to just YOLO in production instead of doing good design.
In other countries you are not allowed as a foreigner to buy land near a border. At first, I thought this to be ridiculous but after I put my own aspirations aside, I realized it a tempered approach to request only citizens own the land near borders. It seems logical that we world prevent non citizen owners near military bases or borders for the sake of hampering our advisaries.