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> access to a lathe is a fundamental human right

A teacher once told me their (middle? high?) school was the last in their state with lathes. Something which couldn't be created there today, and couldn't exist now in some other states, but which had been repeatedly grandfathered, since its creation with many others, just after World War 2. And that it would disappear upon the first serious accident, leaving none at all.
They can certainly be hacked, just like any static site. Web servers have vulnerabilities.

And the files can certainly be edited as they aren’t immutable.

They are less resource intensive and easier to maintain, but aren’t immune.

(Running mostly static sites converted from Wordpress sites, but also running 10 year old+ word press sites that haven’t been changed in forever)
But that's also a simplification because it's a government that does anything it can to protect its citizens, to make sure that everyone gets an equal share.

I took it for granted for most of my life, and I idolized the US for all their music and cultural output. Until social media brought me more and more real stories from real Americans and I realized how lucky I was to be born where I was born.
Bugs for systems with piss poor documentation, testing, and build infrastructure. If you've done even a halfway decent job in those three categories, then it's very hard to have such expensive system maintenance/sustainment activities unless it's a very large system.
Brilliant write up. I remember using the old ones, and only last year found the oxo model. truly amazing. Many important lessons in product design in that article; with the most important in the last sentence - it has to work!
In terms of something like paper, you're likely right. There's a weird popular perception that when you go to the grocery store and get 4 paper bags, somewhere a logger fells a beautiful 1000-year-old sequoia to grind into paper pulp, when the reality is that the same managed forest land is replanted over and over with fast-growing trees and harvested and replanted as soon as they're ready. The more demand for paper, the more tree farms there will be, and i can think of much worse things than taking up more of our land with CO2-slurping trees. If the paper ends up in a landfill, that's fine. It's not toxic.

Or we could use a ton of energy and chemicals to recycle paper (and also to clean it since all consumer recycling in the US is "mixed stream" meaning someone's used dirty yogurt container and beer bottles are all over the paper), and produce much worse paper.

But all "recycling" is too valuable to helping people feel good about consumption, for us to be honest with ourselves about how pointless most of it is besides aluminum and glass, and maybe steel.
I'm clearly missing some key context here, judging by the other two comments seeming to know what you're talking about, but I'm none the wiser about what's the deal with him and… Ayahuasca? which I'd never heard of before this thread.
> One group of people is saying: "This hurts, please stop"

But the entire article you're criticizing can be summed up as "wokeness hurts, please stop". To which you say, "No".
> This was not the original meaning of woke, but it's rarely used in the original sense now.

Graham is really skipping over some pretty significant whys and wherefores on how a term that dates back to, at least, 1923 becomes a pejorative starting around the '80s. Perhaps it is worth considering in what publications and media it became a pejorative, and who would benefit from others thinking it should be one.

While some folks who lived through the Sixties went into academia, others went on to own media empires. Those groups didn't have particularly aligned goals.
I think it's okay to refer to the word "woke", but if you use it more than 3 times in your writing, then it's hard to take you seriously.

Why?

Because it's a word that gets people emotional. Getting people emotional is the opposite of what you want to do when you're trying to intellectually dissect something. But it's exactly what you want to do when you're grinding a gear.

It's just like if somebody wrote a piece about trump, but mentioned he was a felon 4+ times, you'd know they weren't writing an unemotional thinkpiece.
Hehe, being a Java dev since the late 90’s meant seeing a lot of bad code. My favorite was when I was working for a large life insurance company.

The company’s customer-facing website was servlet based. The main servlet was performing horribly, time outs, spinners, errors etc. Our team looked at the code and found that the original team implementing the logic had a problem they couldn’t figure out how to solve, so they decided to apply the big hammer: they synchronized the doService() method… oh dear…
Lol your no different as a coder to any other employee in any role on any jobsite. If a business owner can replace you with tech for less, they will. Unionizing won't save you from being made redundant.

Can't unionize against being outskilled by a machine. Much like in construction, why hire a hundred men to shovel when I can hire one bloke and a excavator? Why use a hammer when I've got a nailgun?
> because of some valuation drop or being short on money.

Why is that hard to believe? People have done much worse for much less money.
Gig work is the dirt underbelly of the economy:

> Enough demand that it can generate revenue, not enough revenue that it creates incentives for high-loyalty structure -–which is what you do when you care about your employees and want to keep them working for you.

If Uber loses one driver, there is a thousand that would gladly replace them and get paid same day, in cash, pre-tax at a higher hourly rate than they can get in the job market (Amazon warehouse, Fast Food, etc...), with a lot more control of their time.

How do you compete? The companies know and have no incentive to hire.

Meanwhile, if legislation is passed to force them to do it, they're likely to dramatically cut driver headcount to keep their already shitty P&L healthy and will cause 100s of thousands to lose their main income source and a 1000x increase in costs for consumers. (Bad outcome for all parties involved)

As it stands the economics of that business model are too messed up for a good path forward to exist.
Don't forget monk fruit, quite ascetic.
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> what's to stop corporate from replacing you with an Indian that costs 1/3rd as much?

I like to think the quality of my work and ability to be more than just a coder (setting priorities, goals, innovating on the product, etc) prevents that.

Ultimately most tech jobs are replaceable but that’s not a good enough reason not to. Especially since there’s already pressure making this happen. I recently watched a previous employer offshore most of the dev work and it seems to be going ok to bad for them.
I think they don't care at all, this is just signalling, different camp has the power to rule the country now and suddenly all of them are changing their minds
Or just buy an old marantz or something similar and an old airport express and be done with it for life.
> participate in such a sociehttps://news.ycombinator.com/newsty? What's their incentive?

This has never made sense to me. People don't need an external motivator. People who like to collect things or complete puzzle (including high performers), do so because they like to collect them, not because society rewards them. It generally penalizes them as it's wasted time or capital. Granted, sometimes recognition is a good motivator, but that's fleeting over a non-trivial timeline (like a season) and not specifically tied to society at large (eg the longest running game of Tag).
That's probably the best explanation. There is no real alternative to PHP if you want to host cheap and simple. It's also really easy to deploy WordPress to a shared hoster, just by uploading a few files via FTP/etc and setting up a MySQL connection.

Or is CGI still a thing and a possible alternative for shared webspaces?
Why do you doubt Zuck's foresight? I am not a fanboy, but he timed the pivot to mobile really well, acquired instagram, and anticipated how crucial messaging would be. All pretty good calls. The VR stuff is still playing out. In fact I think he is one of the few who do a better job of looking ahead.
Isn't 3% still somewhat significant? But good point though!
oops dropped a p
HN has many of those who have gone through the indoctrination process in college that he describes in the essay.
The benefit of WP is the huge theme and plugin ecosystem. I know of people that started a business just on WP + theme + plugin without any dev expirience or money for a developer
How do you get an invite?
TERFs outed themselves as exclusionary. As such, they can't be left wing, even if they would like to align with it on some other principles. You can't be humanistic only towards some humans.
So, there are (at least) two axes here, right?

"How seriously we take a thing" and "how good a job are we are doing."

In the case of murder in America, I would say the answers are "extremely seriously" and "we are doing a very imperfect job."

We should certainly do a better job of it, but I don't think the answer is to be less serious about murder. And -- clearly, I'd hope -- the point of the analogy is that some (many? most?) problems are societal.

Simply choosing to not murder people yourself is a great start, but it is a society-wide issue that can't be completely addressed by people simply choosing to do the right things on an individual basis.
In the Netherlands gig economy workers weren't paying into the pension or unemployment system.

The wheels move slowly but once they grind nothing can stop it. The self employed are being reintegrated into the Borg collective.
While this is true, you don't control how many hours you're allowed to work.

I've worked on several projects were I was promised an FTE conversion after performing really well during a project. My manager said the company wanted to keep me around and convert me to an FTE spot. Within weeks of my project being released, they dangled the conversion out in front of me while reducing my hours to 20-25 a week. I fell for it for a few weeks and then decided they had no intention of converting me, it was just to keep me around for various other shit work their devs didn't want to do so I moved on - another perk of being a contractor/part-time/"gig" employee.
> Consumers can assess the credibility of each.

Assuming intelligence is normally distributed, then what's the plan for the bottom 50% here?
Hadn't looked into that side of things, thanks for the links
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I used to row in London on the Thames, and yeah, the tides are nuts. The river rises seven meters in the span of about 3-4 hours. (It takes about 7-8 hours to flow out.)
Management will replace you with a cheaper worker whenever possible, foreign or otherwise.

Only way to ensure worker rights (and a greater share of your company's profits) is to fight for them and that's where unions come in.
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Related: write down what you're seeing (or rather, what you _think_ you're seeing), and so with pen and paper, not the keyboard. You can type way faster than you can write, and the slowness of writing makes you think harder about what you think you know. Often you do the know the answer, you just have to tease it out. Or there are gaps in your knowledge that you hadn't clocked. After all, an assumption is something you don't realise you've made.

This also works well in conjunction with debug tooling -- the tooling gives you the raw information, writing down that information helps join the dots.
Development work at all of these major financial companies is likely distributed across three continents and 6 time zones, nevermind the network of offices in multiple major cities. Even "Hub" models likely have cleave points like design in NY, frontend development in LA, testing in Mumbai.

The end effect is employees schlepping to the office to sit down and hop on a zoom call.
The trouble is that many of the issues now under the "woke" umbrella are not nearly as simple/obvious as the examples you've chosen.

To raise just one example: for most people, terms like "whitelist" and "blacklist" held no racist connotations. When they uttered those words, they felt no animus towards another person or race. If they were asked to speculate why those words exist or how they originated, there's a good chance they'd point out that "light" and "dark" have longstanding associations often evoking religious imagery of good vs evil. And indeed, if you investigate the history of these words, they don't seem to have a problematic racial history (which can't be said for all words).

But due to the potential for racial connotations, replacing these words was part of a widespread campaign. Resisting the removal of these words would result in someone being labeled a racist/bigot etc.

Personally, I've chosen to remove those words from my vocabulary because they offend some people in neutral settings and it's not a big deal to say "allowlist/denylist". But I'm not taking it upon myself to scold other people for not doing the same thing. On the other hand, if someone started using the n word, I wouldn't be quiet about it.

My general point was that acting as if all "woke" issues rise to the level of murder, property rights or racial discrimination is exactly the problem. People stop taking the "you must live this particular way" people seriously when the issues up for discussion are complex and not obvious.
Also, I'd expect he cares very little about the stock price. He turned down Yahoo's offer when it must have seemed so lucrative
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Well since we're talking about Citroen I'll say where is the button I can press to make the car raise up 20 cm :-D Always loved watching my uncle come visit in their CX. We'd always wait to see the car start and lift up.
As a child of 6-8 living in Malibu in the 50s, it was a paradise. We left the year before a fire took the home of one of my childhood friends in Malibu canyon.

I am grateful for learning more of the the history of Malibu and am reminded once again that fuel management is key to prevent or at least mitigate conflagrations.
The current norm is that it mustn't be said, even in a discussion of that class of words.
Interestingly enough, the article notes that this program was written for Microsoft’s AppleSoft BASIC, but Woz famously wrote an Integer BASIC that shipped on the Apple II’s ROM.
> what was left off is the union demands for healthcare as an employment benefit that truly entrenched the practice in the US

Source?
> If you can't get your job done remotely, what's the stop you from also slacking off in the office.

I find slacking off in the office so much easier than slacking off at home, mainly because people (like CEOs of companies with RTO mandates) automatically assume people in the office == people being productive. You could leave your seat and go to a meeting room, and people won't know if you are having a genuine meeting or if you are just talking to yourself. Or you could bring your laptop to a meeting room and people won't know if you focusing or if you are slacking off. You could even stay in your seat, and people won't easily notice that the GitHub page you have open on your monitor is actually for your side project. You could open a long and useless company email on your monitor and daydream for a few minutes. In contrast, when people know you are at home, they default to thinking you are slacking off. You need to actively work to prove you are working.

> If every single office job went remote, what's the point of a city like New York.

The point is to enjoy the city (whether museums or bars) after work hours.
> Did I misunderstand?

Yes, and perhaps deliberately so, lol.

"Woke" was a word invented by black activists in the context of civil rights activism and is now being used disparagingly by people who are against modern forms of progressive activism. (I didn't use the word "white" once in the comments you're replying to, and you can CTRL+F me on that.)

I also think it's telling that a lot of people like to die on the hill of "retarded used to be a clinical term!" but far fewer people are willing to die on the hill of "mongoloid used to be a clinical term!", despite both being true in roughly the same context.
Huh? Aren't you focussing on the identity of the people?
Why and how is labelling unlikable behaviour as woke bad faith. As I understand the right using the term, they use it consistently to refer to a very specific type of behaviour they see as bad (one core aspect is prioritising signalling being virtuous over actually improving the world).

Is your complaint that this usage unfairly co-opts the original left usage of the word?
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42680769
The Unabomber manifesto talks about this a surprising amount too -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/unab...
Ah, the app to connect to your Sonos speakers, but wants all the permissions from your phone, incl. your geo-location, otherwise it will not work.
> I think for aluminum and glass it checks out, but not really for most plastics.

That's the same thing I've seen demonstrated. It's really too bad that the plastics industry seized on the opportunity to greenwash wasteful amounts of plastic packaging by giving people a recycling bin that claims to do something useful with that discarded plastic, when in reality it's rare for post-consumer plastic to make any rational sense (other than those things like we're discussing, where people in practice waste even more resources in the recycling process just to feel good that the plastic material itself was technically not 'wasted').
I think it's best to understand it in terms of entirely different separate realities that define political ideologies nowadays, like it's not just that I disagree with you, we don't even share the same plane of existence anymore. Like for example conservatives love to call Biden a marxist/far-leftist — it's incomprehensible gibberish to me, it goes against everything I believe to know about reality, but it probably makes a lot of sense to you, you might even agree with the statement. It's not a disagreement in the traditional sense, it's not something we could talk about and reach some sort of mutual understanding.

The same is true with people using the term "woke", to describe something they believe exists and is a great danger somehow, the most important political struggle of our times even perhaps. And you're right, in your perception of reality it really is scary and worth fighting against. It's just that I believe you are living in a dangerous, delusional fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. That's why finding common ground is pretty much impossible unfortunately.

Like one time I saw a conservative calling the world economic forum a far-left institution, I really don't think a productive conversation between leftists, liberals and conservatives is even possible at this point.
That's good support for the thesis - the fact that so many people are choosing to defer working, or retiring early, is a good reminder that Americans are just sprinting through their careers.

Especially if you compare the US internationally, the average American is such a laggard at working in comparison: https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SL.TLF.ACTI.ZS?most_rec....

So it must be true that Europeans either must work much longer careers, or have extremely high prime age participation for the numbers to make sense.

And if you overlay labor force participation data with GDP per capita, it's kind of crazy the efficiency that the US generates economic productivity from our workforce.
> The woke sometimes claim that wokeness is simply treating people with respect. But if it were, that would be the only rule you'd have to remember, and this is comically far from being the case.

This seems like a good argument. It's very clear that 'wokeness'/political correctness is more about fixating on syntax (the literal words used) over semantics (the intention of the speaker). But in my book, it's the intention that matters — in fact I'd argue it's the only thing that matters. If you're choosing to wilfully misinterpret and be offended by something someone innocently said, that's completely on you. We shouldn't celebrate the act of taking offence, but at the same time we should all make an effort not to accidentally create it. Why are people who can do both seemingly so rare?
this seems like a very very minor thing compared to correctly understanding how a bug in a screen showing "unauthorized access" on the react frontend project, is in fact triggered by a wrong configuration in a "authorization service" in a file located completely elsewhere, due to a serialization issue, etc..

"visualizing a general architecture" is piece of cake compared to the mental model one need to understand a full stack react / express / sqlite / typescript stack with sufficient details to be able to debug obscure error code.
Clearly that non-creative didn’t even touch an instrument nor had an inspiring jam with some friends.
[dupe]

Discussion:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42683753
It is extremely generous of you to assume that those who push for RTO have the company’s interest in mind.
> Can't really agree. Especially in the wake of the 2024 election, there's been quite a bit of discussion about wokeness on the left.

We'd have to figure out what the hell people are referring to first before there's any discussion worth a damn. As best I can tell it just means "any behavior coming from young people I don't like as a cable news viewer". Frankly, I'm at the point where if someone uses the word non-ironically I just write the speaker off as not seriously trying to communicate. Use your words! Describe specific behavior. People are just working themselves into a tizzy trying to figure out something to be mad at while also contorting themselves into knots trying to avoid discussing anything material, concrete, substantial, or tied to reality.