skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Realistically -- how likely is this to go into the city? What is likely to stop it, if not water (given they're running short)?
Do you personally know all the people Brian Thompson killed via denied claims? I'd love to see a list and hear from the families. Besides going on a narrative spreading on the Internet which too many people believe narratives they are sold. The narratives the left pushed on orange man got him re-elected so i dont take narratives for face value. What I do is not cheering on a murderer nor cheering on the break down of society!
It's a shame that these people don't read, because if they did they see just how often the rich and powerful were murdered during the gilded age. From Wallstreet to St. Petersburg everyone from Emperors to titans of industry was assassinated by those with nothing left to lose. It's almost like income equality is there to keep them alive and to keep another world war from breaking out.
As Evan points out in TFA, this has happened before.

I'll add that it has happened more than a few times.

Past response was to shut down inappropriate behavior in the now (folks rambling on about the person in comments under some programming question, etc.) and let the temporary interest die out on its own.

This time... The response seems to be inviting the Streisand Effect.

boldmovecotton.gif
article literally says 'double 2023 visitor rate'

so a country lifts visa requirements to 50 or so countries, x2 visitor count in 12 months, and its reported as a failure.
If you flood the world with enough polls, you get ones saying what you want, especially if you pay for them
I'm still trying to work out whether you don't realize that Radio Shack closed like ten years back, or if you really think there is no difference between the information systems of now and thirty years ago.
Downvote doesn't always mean "I don't agree with you", it sometimes means "your argument is flawed". The CEO is not "just a cog". CEO is a PERSON who choses to do things in some way and enforces that way on the rest of organisation. CEO - chief executive officer. Chief - means here "the most important one"[0]. Executive - "someone in a high position, especially in business, who makes decisions and puts them into action"[1]. Officer - he has authority[2].

I agree that he did not deserve murder. But he was a person who was the most responsible for whole organization. If he wasn't the one who wanted to deny people their care that they paid for, he should quit. He didn't, so he agreed to take all the blame for telling others what to do.

[0] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/chief
[1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/executiv...
[2] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/officer
23% – Favorable/Somewhat Favorable

37% – Don't Know

43% – Unfavorable/Somewhat Unfavorable

That might as well be broad popularity for murder of all things. That don't know number is wild.
How does the course-swapping site work? Is there some part that requires users to enter their credentials (email, password) on a web site that is not operated by the university? Is there some part that saves an access token or a refresh token in other place than the web browser?

Is some OAuth2 authentication flow involved so that the university has registered the application and assigned a client id and return URI?

I think the university might have valid security concerns if the application somehow accesses student accounts without valid OAuth2 authorization flow (or equivalent).

Entering login credentials for university on a third-party site is probably forbidden by terms of service for the university site.
Why not, I pay them. Do you pay your phone company to not provide service?
Thanks so much Zane!!
> Any healthcare system must deny healthcare. No healthcare system existing anywhere on this planet provides infinite healthcare to everyone. Denying healthcare is not violence.

It is when the care is necessary; when the denial is part of a strategy to goose profits.

There are similar issues with the other statements you made.

> Frankly, your comment strikes me as exceedingly naive.

Frankly, your comment strikes me as willfully blind.
I think I would have checked the "unacceptable" box if I took that survey.

At the same time, I can't disagree with the fact that at this point I'm not sure what else will force a change to our absolutely depraved health care system. Every time I think it's as bad as it can possibly be it gets worse.

I also hope Mangione gets at least one mistrial due to jury nullification.
You typically need to be signed in in order to get all the course info.
Actually it's the opposite. If he were "ugly" by society's standards, the difference is that Corpgov would have an easier time burying this because they could rely on programming people through generational propaganda that ugly people are less deserving of compassion or are more likely to be crazy or creepy. Instead, they're having trouble tarnishing his public perception and it scares them.

Look no further than what Christians did to Jesus' image to see the effect in reverse. Now we're allowing the murder of babies and children in Jesus' hometown, because they don't look like the common Western perception of beauty, an effeminate white guy.

Let's leave physical appearance or other trite observations out of it and have a real conversation about the issue at hand.
A lot of things that your neighbor may like are still net negative (see the ongoing climate catastrophe and think about fossils production, air travel, etc).
The guy I replied to has a combined Tab + Ctrl key: Ctrl on hold, Tab on click.
Is it legally feasible to fork StackOverflow and create a competing platform using the same content? Or is the license just window dressing to provide contributors with the feeling that they could do that if they wanted to... but not really.
What does that have to do with what I’m asking? I want to know why a CEO is not another cog in the wheel.
This actually had the opposite effect on me; I had no clue his support was this acute among young demographics.

Only 29% of those age 18-29 view a murderer unfavorably, whereas 39% view him favorably and 32% aren't sure. It's break even for 30–44.

The support is heavily skewed by older age ranges (just 5% of >65).

If those age ranges were further broken out by political ideology it seems like it would be overwhelming for young liberals, since the all age "very liberal" has 47% support to 30% disapproval.

If your poll is to be believed, it isn't an online phenomenon at all.
> In a way, it is akin to modern-day slavery

They all have a free choice about whether to be an Olympian or to take a more lucrative career path. It was obvious to me even as a kid that the chances of making money as an Olympian is about as probable as making money as a singer in a rock and roll band.

I.e. a thoroughly impractical career choice.

Even worse, no matter how good you are, a random injury or getting the flu at the wrong moment will destroy your chances.

> It's making athletes entrepreneurs

Along with artists, painters, photographers, etc.
Murkrow, sneasel, thievul, gholdengo
> Is it even possible to construct fireproof homes?

Of course you can. This is a solved problem. The US chooses to use lumber because it's cheap and fast. You get what you paid for.

Many poor countries use hollow red clay bricks for construction, which are fire proof. You don't need to break the bank to build a fire resistant house. It's just like with most think in the U.S., the "system" is built in a certain way to benefit certain establishments.
Owen Jones "the establishment and how they get away with it" points to the _evidence_ for the conspiracy without providing the mechanism. The existence of an establishment (in the conspiratorial sense) is rather like gravity - hard to deny but who knows how it works. Just saying..
Sure -- the two ends of the political horseshoe do seem to admire political violence more and more. But I'd take issue with "revered". Perhaps "revered" among the very liberal and very online, all of whom must certainly be mentally ill to revere political violence in the US in this climate.

And to think what will rise from the ashes of lefty political violence will be a lefty utopia? Of course it will be fascism. Of course.
Everyone you listed don't kill people. Very few people consider Batman, Superman, or Spider-Man to be objectively wrong. They consider them to be objectively right, and it's because they're enforcing the law when the police aren't around to do so.

"Law" is just another way of saying, "The bare minimum standard that we as a society will accept."

So when we have a society that sends a drunk driver to prison for 70 years for killing a family of four in a head-on collision, but we don't send people to prison for their lives for gambling with the pensions of teachers, firefighters, etc., for polluting the waterways and the earth itself, of course this is the ultimate, eventual outcome.

The only shocking thing to me about Luigi's case is that it didn't happen sooner.
you mean like the people capturing most of the value generated by labor (shareholders) are not the people actually producing the value through their labor (workers)?

capitalist system working as intended :(
Since this is HN, I can't tell if that's satire or not.

Bravo!
This seems to support the notion that the rule of law is, in fact, dead.
And what if the system doesn't work?

Your argument has the presupposition that the political system is a working democracy. Stability, and security are not a given for all.
Definitely a very interesting problem we're trying to dig deep into. We'd welcome any PRs here as well from the community :)
So... if claims (and thus expenses) are reduced but we have the same revenue, we simply need to increase some other expenses: raise C-suite salaries! :) I'm speculating/joking, but wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be accurate.
The plan is also to force existing customers to re-negotiate their existing long term contracts (many made on favourable terms a few years ago) to include the agentforce and data cloud stuff.

The window of opportunity for this is now: people seem to believe the 'agents' are something really quite new and different, and we haven't yet reached the peak of the hype curve. (Whereas in the boring, backwards enterprise companies salesforce is very active in we are past the peak hype for LLMs/RAGs and its hard to sell that).

A bit ironic he says he will hire 2k+ sales staff though, considering part of their pitch for agentforce is it will handle any customer interactions, sales included.
Why?

I read it because of your comment and I think it is actually quite reasonable and well laid out.
Do not have faith. Once they pick some dumb track, they will stick with it until they either lose legally or lose in the court of public opinion (donors). See also: Oberlin.

If this is a one-party state, record those calls!

Best thing to do is to lure them into overestepping themselves in writing, and the extortionate demand that you work for free is heading in that direction.
You need to figure out who exactly you are dealing with and who is making these decisions and then find out who you need to be talking to in order to get what you need. The person putting you on the hold is probably a very low level person in the registrars office. Probably start with going to your professors if you have good relationships with them or if not figure out how to speak with someone who understands and has more authority. I don't think lawyers are going to do much for you.
The real crime is that it’s unfortunately male athletes :(
Yes, the game allows for clicking one fish more than once and the number of fishes will gradually increase when this happens over and over. This can be easily triggered with multiple mouses (or one mouse plus mouse keys, as I had).
I was more interested in the relative likelihood. Most people don’t die from good or bad gear, but from risky or stupid things, gear or no gear.
While Dana White is worth $$$$ and on the board of Meta.
I decided to write compilers because my initial foray into stripping flopped.
Just curious, what did you donate to? Mostly GiveWell, or other charities? I'm at around 20% and trying to keep it up.
> Athletes serve as aspirational figures that drive interest towards sports that keep people healthy.

No, they don't. The olympics in particular have been shown not to have any sort of lasting effect on host countries or the world in general.

AFAICT this whole thing is a fallacy dreamt up as part of the justification for spending billions on games.
> That law abiding citizen openly cheered for the murder of the people as a business method.

I think you've drank the Kool aid straight from the firehouse.

The general reaction to the assassination of a health insurance exec in protest to depriving people from life-saving healthcare treatment is not endorsing it but completely understanding and even sympathizing why anyone would do it.

The very fact that you're framing this issue as "murder of the people" instead of wondering why anyone would cheer when someone targets a health insurance exec speaks volumes to how effective the propaganda around this has been.
> Edit: I mean on purpose, obviously. Drunk driving hardly counts.

What?!
Using gravitational waves to see the first second of the Universe
What discovery? Are you suggesting that the defense in the murder case will be able to do any kind of discovery on UnitedHealthcare? How would that even be possible?
Condemning people to death and bankruptcy is violence.

That said, we consider vigilante justice wrong because we believe there is supposed to be actual justice from a functional system. When the system does not function, extrajudicial attempts at justice will become more common. Just like people will poach more in a famine.
Yeah exatly, like when they murdererd poor old innocent Louis XVI
> ..yet our culture continues to encourage motherhood at a later age and fails to effectively support those who do make the choice to have children.

Just so it is said, not all cultures on the planet are as equally bad at supporting parents.
> Any healthcare system must deny healthcare. No healthcare system existing anywhere on this planet provides infinite healthcare to everyone. Denying healthcare is not violence.

Nobody argues against that, but United Healthcare had a denial rate of more than 30%, which is the highest among the major health insurance companies in the US. Coupled with the fact that they make profits off of those denials, it's hard not to call this non physical violence with the aim to generate more capital for share holders and executives.

> In any economic system, units of economic organizations must sometimes dissolve, and people must be laid off. This is unavoidable. Laying people off is not violence.

Again, absolutely agree. But it can be argued that doing so without any regard for individuals, their history with the economic unit and personal circumstances, is non-physical violence. Look at e.g. European employment laws for how this can be mitigated (not without some drawbacks ofc).

> In any society, debts are expected to be paid off. If people could just stop paying their debts, nobody would make any loans anymore. Forcing people into bankruptcy is not violence.

In every just society, the debtor has a responsibility as well to not lend money to people who cannot afford it. Giving somebody a loan they cannot afford and then bankrupting them is definitely non-physical violence.

> I suggest thinking about why these things happen, what would be alternative, and so we put up with these.

You put up with these because the US is a violent society with little regards for individual lives. Great for entrepreneurs and people with access to capital, not so great for much of the rest.

The alternatives have of course their own share of problems, but don't act as if the system is the only reasonable one.
Ableton is awesome for putting this type of stuff out. The learning music section is also great. And, it's a perfect post for a shameless plug: I built a u-he Diva (my favorite VST synth) tool for generating presets with AI. It's called Diva Copilot and it can be accessed at https://divacopilot.com - I started out by offering a free trial with 10 free presets and then a monthly $20 plan with 50 presets. You can also buy on-demand credits. It works on top of a custom built RAG system that then uses GPT-4o for actually generating .h2p files. I'm mainly working on improving the knowledge base so that results get better and better. Still, you can already get some super good results. I put some examples in the landing page. Would love to get some feedback!
> He was not the CEO of United HealthCare.

He was a CEO of UnitedHealthcare. "Brian Thompson was the chief executive officer (CEO) of UnitedHealthcare, the insurance arm of UnitedHealth Group".[0]

> It is a very complex issue but cheering a murderer on is a break down of society.

It's a symptom of a break down of society. And cheering is because the killed one was a symbol of that breakdown.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Brian_Thompson#Thom...
Previously:

2023 (46 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34269088

2021 (48 points) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27594985

/w Discussions:

2019 (177 points, 14 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21425855

2016 (607 points, 97 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13920111

2012 (69 points, 33 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4797930
It’s a variant of ‘no one got fired for buying IBM’. Microsoft has a similar position now in their niche. [https://www.forbes.com/sites/duenablomstrom1/2018/11/30/nobo...]
Cause I am not one to believe narratives spread on the Internet. I want to know facts and have them presented to me from solid sources. No doubt they have denied claims but how many and how many were killed because of it? Where is all that data and how many did Brian Thompson approve & directly kill. Im not a sheep on the INternet I want to know more before I ever condone the break down of society and cheer on a murderer!

Yes our healthcare system needs to change for sure, but is America going to embrace paying 50 to 60% of their earnings. It's a hard road for America to embrace & overall a very complex issue we are discussing.
For me, it does beg the question of why Luigi Mangione has so much support in online communities. Is this just another facet of the oft-observed tendency for people to break taboos (in this case openly supporting murder) when they feel they are anonymous?

I really respect YouGov, but I'll play devil's advocate: maybe there is a bias in which members of society are willing to break the taboo. Perhaps older Americans are not less likely to support Mangione, but are just less likely to admit it. On the other hand, it is also consistent with younger people making up a larger proportion of social media users.
arXiv version: https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.04388
This is SE's modus operandi, protest their choices around AI training, policies, etc., by deleting your content and you'll get your account locked and your posts reinstated because you're "hurting the community" and that is more important than your (now non-exclusive) right to your own words (and by non-exclusive, I mean SE's wishes about what to do with your own words matters more than your wishes).
Relying on any form of polls for a political subject after their performance for November 5th is something else, that's all I can say to your edit.
Be specific. Pick three parts of the history it narrates and explain how it is unfounded, deceitful or otherwise unreliable. Begin with a quote, then your criticism.
You can cancel the ongoing utterance and any additionally queued utterances at any time with `speechSynthesis.cancel()`.
His “extremely limited support” constitutes 41% of everyone under 30.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5044269-poll-finds-41-...
That's what allocators do. If C's object model doesn't allow users of the language to write their own allocators then that object model is broken.

C++ relatively has fixes to allow allocators to work, it requires calls to std::launder.
You mean floppies, right? Yeah, like a stack of 26 floppies that you can own and use forever.
The method through which Ulbricht was charged was farcical, and the agents involved later went to prison for money laundering, extortion and obstruction of justice during the case. The Redandwhite situation was clearly a form of entrapment and is a classic example of US intelligence agencies intentionally extremizing political revolutionaries.

That said, Ulbricht has publicly apologized for his actions and confirmed that the chat logs weren't fabricated. He made the fatal mistake of Doing Two Illegal Things at Once, which ultimately tarnished his status as a folk hero.
A contest between a man with a short sword and shield vs a man with a trident and a net would be very popular.
> There's evidence that epidurals are actually worse for maternal mortality, since the epidural disrupts the natural birthing process..

That is a bold claim, so please back it up with references to published peer reviewed research.
It's not most people, it's a plurality. There's a large 'don't know' contingent who either haven't made up their minds or don't want to share their opinion. Also, I would expect this data to skew toward younger people because anyone at or above retirement age is eligible for medicare, and thus not impacted by the decisions of private insurers to anything like the same degree.
Regardless of the topic of the discussion at hand: please stop dehumanizing adversaries.
TS, GitHub, VSCode and ChatGPT are going to make the EEE days look bush league. There's an entire new generation of programmers that have a visceral hatred for doing any unassisted programming or writing a single line of code they could have downloaded off NPM.

They're going to be 100% non functional when that stuff isn't around for them, so the industry can expect to get absolutely fucking raped when that bill comes due.

Would be a good time to invest in Microsoft if they weren't shitting the bed so badly on everything else.
Victor Pelevin – Novelist who foresaw and symbolised Russia's moral decay
So we should pay google engineers for making a saas app.

But we should fire microsoft engineers for making a cost efficient binary.

Not saying that's wrong, just reframing.

Also this debate is so 2000s, we've been over this, things need updates, for security at least. Who's gonna pay for it.
> They all have a free choice about whether to be an Olympian or to take a more lucrative career path.

Not everyone is born capable of being an Olympic athlete and the career path of being one alongside associated opportunity costs is chosen long before the person can consciously and rationally make decisions about themselves. Also, not everyone is as bright as a kid as you.
Seems like a thing that happens on trips abroad (war crimes)