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When I think of Padmapper, I think of the naughtiness:

"Though the most successful founders are usually good people, they tend to have a piratical gleam in their eye. They're not Goody Two-Shoes type good. Morally, they care about getting the big questions right, but not about observing proprieties. That's why I'd use the word naughty rather than evil. They delight in breaking rules, but not rules that matter. This quality may be redundant though; it may be implied by imagination.

Sam Altman of Loopt is one of the most successful alumni, so we asked him what question we could put on the Y Combinator application that would help us discover more people like him. He said to ask about a time when they'd hacked something to their advantage—hacked in the sense of beating the system, not breaking into computers. It has become one of the questions we pay most attention to when judging applications."
Somewhere an RIAA lawyer is trying to figure out how to sue the AEOI.
thanks for the thoughts. cannot stress enough how important it is to us to build a business and product that people have confidence and trust in.
I'm not trying to be rude, or condescending, but if you've been trying to break into web development for over a decade you're doing something wrong. It could be that you haven't learned how to get hired.

I am convinced, I could take someone with no experience, but could pass the test mentioned here[1] and give them assignments every week and in six months they could get a decent programming job.

[1]http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/07/separating-programm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paEKHXq8qPY

I haven't heard Vinge speak, before, so this will be interesting. (I've read several of his novels.)
The notion that I am bound by whatever legalese someone happens to put on their publicly accessible website is absurd in the extreme; I am not the one checking the box to submit a post. CL is perfectly able to restrict read-access to those who agree to the terms, e.g., by requiring registration. That they choose not to is their choice, and the state should not be used as a substitute bludgeon whenever they dislike the unintended consequences.

Furthermore, the publicly-accessible data isn't being copied, it's being consumed. I may consume the data to find an apartment. Someone might consume the data to calculate the average market prices in a city. Padmapper consumes the data to generate locations on a map.
Fantastic news. I would've gone for High Voltage:

Plug me in, turn me on, I'm a sparklin' man

High voltage rock 'n' roll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0NcFU838GY
There is a level of badness at which ideas become shameful to promote, but that's a pretty high bar to clear

In your subjective view, which has exactly zero more, or less, validity here than mine. This feels like you're wasting time, arguing for the sake of being pedantic, or just because you like arguing.

Is there some fundamental point you're trying to make here? Because if there is, it doesn't look like anyone else is getting it.
Craigslist clearly states that they don't own the data. But just because they don't own it doesn't make it public domain - the ownership belongs to the person who created the listing. To be totally free to repost the data you would need to get explicit permission from each owner.
>I'd apply the same copyright principle as phone books

So would I—phone books are not subject to compilation copyright, because there's no editorial choice going on. That was settled in the _Feist_ case.
What does that have to do anything? The point is that users do not care if other companies copy their listing data (and aren't even aware of such a restriction).
Or perhaps math are fun and people upvote a post they liked.
I'm not sure what those terms means, but I was taking around 15 credit hours per semester. I also had a part time job, so I don't know if you would call that "full time" school.
It’s perfectly reasonable if the rate is agreed on up front, though I wouldn’t charge 10% myself. Consider (legitimate) short-term loans—they have high interest rates to discourage abuse by debtors. Here, the author is perfectly willing to renegotiate until the deadline. Once the deadline is past, however, the client is simply in breach of contract, and ought to be penalised as such.
Yes, and there's tricks where you can add speculative future data, which won't actually be stored in the DB. No doubt helps with projections.

Also I like the idea that queries can invoke your own code. (Which is feasible since the queries execute on the same machine as your app.)
It's hard to say from an outsider's perspective whether or not they are 'swimming in cash.'

I suppose we do have some estimates for their revenue, but not how much profit they actually make.

http://www.businessinsider.com/2011-digital-100#10-craigslis...

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-07/tech/30253426...
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I worked at a FedEx Kinkos part-time for a few months and was eligible. I think it kicked in after less than 6 months.
There's also no constitutional right to uninstalling a browser and installing your own browser. That doesn't mean something isn't going wrong with the public's interests.

When a group can interfere with how you hunt for a place to live something is up. Where you live is pretty fundamental.
http://www.startuply.com/ was pretty popular back when I was fresh out of college and looking for jobs.
Some stuff we've been doing:

- http://www.meetup.com/HardwareStartupSF

- http://hardwareuncon.eventbrite.com

- http://www.meetup.com/Solid-State-Startups

To name very few - look at the side bar on the sub-Reddit to see more.
The AIM Group estimated $115M revenue for craigslist in 2011, after $141M in 2010. I don't know anything about the AIM group, but the report is referenced in the NYT (presumably they vetted the source, but...). http://aimgroup.com/2011/10/06/craigslist-revenue-falls-off-...
> Assembly line work might be less intellectually appealing to us, but for a lot of people it is a complex cognitive task. If you were to talk to a every day assembly worker of an iPhone, he would find assembling complex circuitry pretty intellectually challenging.

I doubt that. The way you make an assembly line efficient is by breaking down complex tasks into super-simple subtasks. Each person does one tiny thing, and does it over and over until the actions are automatic - you could practically do it in your sleep. If any task requires "intellectual challenge", you're doing something wrong; that is a bug in your assembly process that you should fix if you want a highly reliable, replicable result.
Not true. You wouldn't link back to Craigslist if you wanted to unseat them.
Its not a fair comparison, but shouldn't they also be trying/using EC2 GPU instances? I would think a large transcoding service such as zencoder has at least looked into it at some point
Sounds suspiciously like they want to avoid having people slam their APIs unnecessarily. They probably don't care how you use their APIs, they just don't want you constantly polling them and/or sending of query bursts just to get some latency stats. Every API hit adds to the load on their servers, and it may also mess up their own internal API statistic gathering.

So they probably want some pre-established legalese that allows them to kick people off who make an unreasonable number of queries for no practical reason.

One developer doing this probably isn't a concern to them, but if thousands of people all over the place do it, that could become annoying.
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I hear people say "They stole my idea!" or if they hear a familiar melody, "They stole that from The Doors!"

So the dictionary agrees with the common use of steal in the realm of intellectual property. It's really the proponents of copyright violation who have redefined stealing to exclude copyrighted digital media.
100% agree. And I doubt they are delivering music payloads all the way across the air gap just for fun. A guess, but it sounds like these machines aren't subject to the same restrictions as the really intense stuff on the other side of the security curtain.
Craig is doing things right: he is not greedy and he doing it with vision of general purpose. If craiglist is run by a person who investors like to choose as a founder they will be sold for 10M a long time ago.

The problem with a lot of startups in SV is that their only objective is to make money. Nothing else. Craigslist is very very rare exception.

Now lets downvoting starts...
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Heard good things about the Build Responsively workshops, I'll be at the Cleveland one in August http://buildresponsively.com/
I was ready to agree, but in glancing at the article I see a U.S. drone control station. And I'm reminded that one of the U.S. service branches (Air Force?) is in the course of switching from a Windows to a Linux platform, after the former was found to be infested with exploits.

Which makes me think: In the limited scale if pervasive and seemingly perpetual engagements and theaters we are currently experiencing, might there be some leverage? Some of these are not "all out" campaigns, and image and public perception do play significant roles in their continued viability. Their limited scale may also somewhat more readily place them within the purview of civilian and criminal courts -- at least in some cases.

I guess I'll have to read the article.
Doubt away.

It's not like this eliminates any of the complexity of ios development. Stuff like animating properties of controls is one of the things iOS handles beautifully. Any graphic workflow that doesn't eliminate rework and isn't WYSIWYG is a step backwards.
I can accept bad metaphors and analogies in HN comments; this a technically focused community and the comments are so far above above most online forums that nitpicking about literary devices would be ridiculous. But I can't forgive the hotdog/hamburger/caviar analogy in this full length blog post. It does not convey his message well and really does the article a disservice. This writing should have been more thought out considering it is a follow up to his previous posts on this subject that got quite a bit of attention.

I realize this is somewhat off topic. But as an entrepreneur I feel this is worth noting because I can't overstate how affective a good metaphor (or good, well revised writing in general) can be in persuading others. And as a reader how easily a bad one can turn me off especially when woven throughout your entire piece.
This is super interesting to me as an Industrial design student masquerading as a Web designer. Unfortunately I am on the East Coast, but if there is any way I can help with this idea let me know.
insert generic, overwrought "authoritarian police state" comment about the United States here

edit: oh sorry, the OP already made this point :p
I've heard the same about Twitter. All they do is publish short messages, why do they have 1000 employees?

There's always many problems that aren't immediately apparent but difficult.
This is the song that was playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RukUetw0hAM
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They've looked into it, but they said GPU encoders don't compress as well, and don't look as good. https://www.quora.com/Does-Zencoder-use-regular-EC2-or-GPU-E...
I'm the TL for Google Compute Engine.

This isn't the performance we expect here and we will be looking in to see what is going on.
Is it clear that Padmapper is bound by the TOU of CL? Padmapper probably has a contractual relationship with 3Taps, and Google probably has a contractual relationship with CL. I'm not sure 3Taps has entered into a contractual relationship with Google by scraping their cache, but even if they did, what is the legal agreement between CL and Padmapper?
Another example: if an “identity thief” appropriates your personal information, you’re still the same person—your identity wasn’t stolen, it was infringed.
I will just note that improvements to the GC and scheduler and other compiler optimizations are already implemented and will be part of Go 1.1

Also, the Go stdlib is very rich and covers lots of stuff, I have rarely found need for bindings to C libs unless it is OpenGL.

Which brings me to the point of games, there are already a couple of games using Go, the GC pauses are not as big of an issue because the GC is good enough (it is parallel) and in Go is easy to avoid generating garbage.
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It's $2000/yr bonus for minimum wage warehouse employees, not spoiled engineers.
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I'm trying to do the same with http://tomato.es
It wasn't working for me before, but appears up now that I'm at home. I was on Georgia Tech campus (which I believe peers with Level3 for most commercial traffic), if that helps. Might have been a backend/infrastructure thing (like I hoped).
I used to go to http://keybr.com/ but having a cli program is great. Thanks
A lot of my silicon valley peers and I opted to live in the SF area and commute south for work because we found SF & Oakland far more entertaining on nights and weekends.

As more and more tech jobs became available in SF itself, we started taking them.
Oh I'm sure it's not normal. Let us know if you find out what happened :)
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> Look, there's nothing preventing landlords from listing their apartments on Craigslist AND your new Craigslist replacement/improvement. They're not locked in.

That's disingenuous. Craigslist is pretty much the only game in town in many places. Let's say you need to find a person with a specific need, willing to pay $2000 a month. If you don't find this person, you have to pay the $2000 a month. How do you feel about not using Craigslist now?
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One reason is that once they're big enough, they can just flip the bird at craigslist and use their own data.
The comparison with Redis is totally misleading. SpaceBase is for completely different use cases and has a different underlying technology.

It is an interesting development though. It uses R-trees and the whole data set and index is keep in memory.
"I can't overstate how affective a good metaphor (or good, well revised writing in general) can be in persuading others."

Muphry's law[1] strikes again.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law
As someone else commented, your title is a bit misleading. Perhaps try the same analysis for the bottom or a random subset of 300 apps and see what comes out. Dataporn can be nice, but you should be a little more rigorous with your statements.
> Why do opponents of IP rights keep saying it isn't stealing?

shrug

probably because it was ruled thus by the supreme court. so, i guess there's that...

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=3901205964610715...

m3mnoch.
Compromise: how about showing points on comments but only after you yourself have accumulated a significant number of points?
Actually, someone did a great job succinctly explaining it: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4286701

The attitude that Clojure is only for some enlightened few who are worthy enough to understand it is extremely alienating. Lisps aren't that hard, homoiconicity isn't that opaque, the benefits of using Clojure can be explained in practical terms that most developers can understand, if not at first be convinced by. All these concepts can be explained succinctly in text.

Saying that Clojure is only for those who share some 'vision' is hand-wavy at best, insulting at worst.

Edit: My guess is that Datomic is targeted towards Clojure devs because they are already experienced with Datomic's philosophy and will understand the system better. It also provides a smaller and highly receptive market. They can then focus on perfecting the software instead of training a large number of people in the philosophy behind Clojure and Datomic.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4279063 <Many comments

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4280953

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4282486

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4286471
$2000/yr for 4 years is $8000

In Washington State, an AA is 4 semesters * $1500 = $6000, completed part-time by people have jobs at Amazon.

The Amazon hate on this issue is bizarre.
Eric from Padmapper has tried to get an audience with them, but both Craig and Jim wouldn't take a meeting. They sent a license, but that was only for mobile apps. Most people use padmapper though the website.
Exactly, ignorance of the law is never an excuse! THen they make more laws
I had the same impression. The author doesn't know Redis well or he wouldn't have made that comparison.
Confused about the blending in part. One of my biggest gripes is continually missing an app icon because it's blue (or otherwise similar to another, but generally blue). We just had a conversation in a similar thread the other day - "Make Your App Icons Boring" - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4219164

You also don't show the icon at the small size that we'd see on our devices. Does it translate well?
It all depends on what your standards are. The working conditions at Amazon warehouses as reported repeatedly by the press would be completely illegal in most Western countries outside the US.
This just keeps getting better and better. I know of several non-coders whose 'learning to code' project was building a working iPhone app, all because of Trigger.io! Badass.
That's all well and good, and I understand the point, but it does't appear to apply to PadMapper.

Personally, while I'm not a big fan of Craiglist's UI, it's stretching it to think that PadMapper would be classified as "such enormous public good" simply because a small subset of total Craigslist (and Internet) users (most likely in a small subset of American cities) are fond of it.
No doubt this is partly in response to articles like this:
http://articles.mcall.com/2011-09-18/news/mc-allentown-amazo... which describe surprisingly poor working conditions in an Amazon warehouse in rural PA.

"During summer heat waves, Amazon arranged to have paramedics parked in ambulances outside, ready to treat any workers who dehydrated or suffered other forms of heat stress. Those who couldn't quickly cool off and return to work were sent home or taken out in stretchers and wheelchairs and transported to area hospitals. And new applicants were ready to begin work at any time."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy
I've been looking for something like this for a while. It's "just enough".
I wonder if mathematicians recite beautiful proofs as fourplay...
Much of the SFX film industry is not using GPUs, at least not for final renders because differences floating point precision.
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Doesn't that run afoul of the same problem as Righthaven? There is no bare "right to sue" that can be transferred without transferring the copyright.
The trouble is that ultra-low-overhead charities can be completely ineffective. If a charity doesn't pay for computers, utilities, sorting machines, postage meters, etc. (or pays for only the bargain-basement minimum), then each hour of volunteered time is less effective than if there are sufficient facilities available. Overhead is, in reasonable quantities, a good thing.
People who disagree with you are not shameful. If we agree there, I think we can just move on.
Really nice. I'd love to see you guys do some coffeescript/clojurescript samples as well.
It's a pretty good analogy. FB can't increase the volume of its users all that much, so it has to drastically increase its ARPU to compensate.

But I (and many others) don't think it can.
Do as they did: build it and wait until the C&D. Get a massive amount of free PR and hopefully you can go from there.
Craig Newmark now says (6/25/12):

"folks, please remember, #craigslist community feedback massively against the use of their stuff for the profit of others."

https://twitter.com/craignewmark/status/217323728260972544
And you automatically grant Craigslist your first born child and all future earnings and your left index finger. Laywers love to fill these things with unenforceable outlandish crap. The courts are more discerning.
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The comparison is meant to be functional - not technical. Most people use Redis as a low-latency key-value store either for write-heavy uses, short-term storage or as a cache. SpaceBase is, indeed, not a key-value store, but it can now serve the same purpose Redis does, namely, a low-latency, write-heavy data-store, only for spatial indexing rather than key indexing. I think I've made an apt, fair analogy.
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I like this, hope to see more examples. I was surprised to find I was quite wrong on brands I thought I knew well (e.g. Yahoo). Fun little game.
There are 1,721 2 year colleges in the US (as of 2011), pretty good chance there is one nearby wherever you are. Also, the whole purpose of putting warehouses around the country is to be closer to people. So they are turning up in suburban areas of large cities (e.g. Phoenix, Nashville, Dallas). These are places that will have access to schools.
Does 8 cores mean 8 cores or 4 cores/8 threads? The documentation is confusing.
What's wrong with the metaphor? How would you have described the problem differently?

I thought it was a really good description of the situation Facebook is in. People have speculated for years about all of the different ways they could produce insane revenue/profits (the hot dog -> caviar machine), but their current revenue (the hot dogs) is very lackluster.
How have you determined that every users listing on Padmapper doesn't care it has been scraped from CL and relisted? Did they contact every user and get their permission first?
That's exactly it.

Any of us could write a program to calculate E=MC2 in a minute. These anti-patent types think this means they're all Einsteins.
> And if you want your data to be reposted on another site, then you should repost it.

I had to giggle a little bit at this in the grand scheme of the internet, sorry.

When I posted something on Facebook Marketplace, I started getting emails and comments from other "market" sites that Facebook had cross-posted my listing to.

While it was annoying to not know this up front, the fact that it was more visible and getting more bites because of it only helped me make the sale quicker. If a service wants to piggyback off of another to make my postings more buoyant, as a user and seller, I don't have a problem with it.
As long as there are constant or increasing numbers of people "thinking they're going to make $1b by making an app and getting acquired.", there's — by definition — a rush.

And rushes, by definition, inevitably end. I'm sure there were gold miners that showed up in the Sierra's and were disheartened by all of the claims everywhere. They, being in the later wave, no doubt cursed their luck at missing out on the 'easy' riches. I can tell you that very few independent miners are wandering the Sierras these days to stake a claim (surprisingly it is not zero but that is a different story).
One of the most "mind boggling" areas of math is number theory

Math dealing with real/complex numbers has been vastly explored, and there are very powerful tools, and computers are very good at these kind of problems (Calculus, etc)

With number theory, progress is much harder, things work in a completely different logic (think for example that 5+3 can be 0 for example)

One of the places where these mysterious sides of math comes together is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann_zeta_function
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