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I actually agree, at least partially.

When I was young and in larval stage, I would work very, very long hours on my hobby projects. Today, I think of myself as having a programmer's virtues of laziness, impatience, and hubris, I despise all-nighters (even for hobby projects), and I place a lot of value on leisure activities and time with friends and family. My passions have changed, even though I like having the time to work on my hobby and business projects (I've got two at the moment).

But then again, my skill level has increased far more than my desired work hours have decreased. When I started, I could barely use the Delphi graphical debugger, often dealt with null pointer errors from bad object-destruction or initialization practices, crashed my machine from copying data to the wrong location in memory half the time, reinvented the wheel most of the time, knew no math above high-school level (I was in middle school, after all!), knew only three similar imperative programming languages (QBasic, Delphi, and C++), and only knew how to use Windows ME. "Version control" was not even in my personal vocabulary, and I only knew the build system that came with my IDE.

Today, I know more programming languages than I can remember to list, I run all three major desktop OS's and program for them when desirable and necessary, I know enough calculus and linear algebra to make my way as a computer scientist and real programmer, either use garbage collection or practice strong memory discipline, almost never follow bad pointers, and do most of my debugging with System.err.println and command-line debuggers. I have used git, Mercurial, Subversion, and CVS, the former two professionally, and I've had the misfortune to use not only CMake, ant, SBT, and Python install/packaging scripts for build systems but autotools and manually-written Makefiles as well.

My desired hours of work have shrunk linearly, but my skill, knowledge-base, and sheer experience have grown polynomially if not exponentially. I don't just hit things with sticks anymore, I know where to hit things with sticks. Just who the hell does the world think I am?

But all that said, many employers most likely deal with a lot of larval-stage college grads and amateurs who remain unproductive enough to require long working hours well into their careers. There's also a gigantic signaling issue here, because not even 10 or 15 years in the field actually indicates that you're this kind of experienced, intuitive, get-it-done-quick-and-slope-off-down-the-pub hacker, nor that you're an "A player" for any specific field of problem.

So if I'm a hiring manager who wants to run a company full of lazy people (that is, "lazy" in the sense of short hours or even a reduced workweek), how do I find the programmers with the sheer skill to not require late-night debugging binges at least occasionally?
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It's depressing that this still has to be discussed. Folks, if you're marketable, please don't reward companies with your employment if they continuously death march you.

Never seen a single hour of that extra time either paid back or returned to you? Time to go. However it will require everybody to do their part to defeat the system.
I don't know if they're Rails 3, but perhaps the New York Times or Groupon? Twitter certainly hasn't updated to Rails 3 yet.
> Growth of modern day IDE's have rendered many programmers into kind of code assembly workers, autocomplete/intellisense does most of thinking these days.

Please tell me that there is irony involved in this quote. Otherwise the term "thinking" has been diluted to the point of existential crisis. What IDEs do is remembering and accounting. That's cognitive activity, but it's not something that involves sentience or thoughtfulness.

What separates the best programmers from the herd is thinking, and it's not embodied in an IDE.
> Things become less intellectually challenging as your brain gets seasoned to it.

That's obviously true.

>Even coding for that matter these days has become pretty less intellectually challenging. Growth of modern day IDE's have rendered many programmers into kind of code assembly workers, autocomplete/intellisense does most of thinking these days.

I don't think this is true. Of course IDEs made certain things easier like looking up class/method/function names and their documentation but imho that's not the hardest part about programming.

Besides that I agree with you. You can't make a general statement about what is tiring for someone. I think working as a craftsman is as tiring as working as a programmer - it's just different. A craftsman's body will be tired and a programmer's brain will be tired.
He hates groupon. We get it.

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Admittedly, China didn't "go nowhere". Late Medieval China had living conditions better than any the pre-industrial and industrial West managed, while working less than the post-industrial West does today. Only the onset of social democracy and post-industrialization drove living standards up to what the Chinese enjoyed for ages.

Admittedly, they mostly managed this because large portions of their land area could naturally support plenty of people without too much work put into agriculture.
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Whenever I read these articles tha have arisen lately about Steve Jobs' managerial style, I'm surprised that no one mentions the most obvious thing: the people working for Jobs were building the iPhone, and the iPad, and some of the other greatest products the world has ever seen. Why on earth would the executive of a second-rate financial services software company (or whatever) think that they could motivate people in the same way?
Arista came out last year with something vaguely(although lacking the modularity of cards)similar to what you've got in mind. I think it was originally targeted for high-frequency trading apps where proximity of the colocation such as 350 Cermak in Chicago makes a huge difference in latency. I never heard much more about it though.

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TBH I think the only way to compete with Excel is to help new firms with no Excel legacy compete with and put out of business those firms those with Excel legacies. I see no other way because the switching costs (both time and money) from Excel to something is are usually too high to be worth it.
I agree, but the problem I think others are having is your use of the word "human". You really mean a subset of humans: the issue isn't so much that the gorillas are exhibiting human-like behavior but that the article writer is ascribing non-universal motivations to their behavior.
Just a thought - 'help[] the developer talk to the computer' is pretty much the goal of most abstractions I've seen (not just javascript abstractions, but, y'know, languages and such). :)

The point in Jeremy's post may not seem absolutely consequential in the case of 16 line marginalia; but a common frame of reference that ALSO satisfies 'business requirements' seems pretty desirable to me. That probably has something to do with pretty much all(?) client javascript being either (1) creating/reading some kind of local state Object, (2)updating by way of events you attach to the dom, and (3) the ajax endpoints which send 1 and 2 to the server.

So - admittedly green, college senior - I'm not really sure how to elegantly get 1000 modules loosely coupled, or what looks like, but I'm genuinely curious how many (most?) of those wouldn't fall under the three types of abstractions that Backbone gives you. I am intrigued, and I have a feeling that someone's about to point me to some unifying abstraction which espouses this method and ISN'T just the dom?
Of course a certain excitement can help doing more productive hours a day for a couple of weeks/months but I don't think this holds on for a longer time.

As a software engineer I exactly notice the things the article mentions. After 6-7 hours I'm getting tired and after 8 hours it becomes really hard to concentrate.
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Even rats have empathy as proven in an experiment: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/rat-empathy/

We're about 80% the same as animals when it comes down to it. The difference is important, absolutely, but not as significant as you'd think.
Its really all due to the Mac App Store. Having a free lite version helps. My conversion from lite to paid is around 6%
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Haven't used your app but you could segment the page and then allow people to annotate objects, this could guide the html generation.
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Very impressive ! and I am sure many people will use this service ..

About the quality of code that it generates :
I don't mind setting some on in my team to work on optimizing the generated code , but having some base html/css to work on is definitely a plus point.

Oh, BTW, You wont share my PSD with any one else right ?
> What do you think herds of corporate Java/C# programmers do with their auto complete/intellisense laden IDE's? That is nothing short of coding equivalent of assembly line work.

I'm sorry, but I need to ask you where you're getting your data from. There are some pretty dim coders out there who are mightily impressed with their ability to be a code monkey, despite the mindless nature of what they do. That's not what the majority of coders I've met are like, and I've spent over a decade in corporate environments. (Smalltalk shops may be atypical.)
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I can't help but read this with a pinch of salt. Yes, it's fascinating that these gorillas have learned this new behavior and are passing it down. And I think almost everyone wants to see endangered species protected. Yet I can't help but feel there is something quite pretentious about all this. We sit here cheering on the destruction of these traps, when in all likely-hood there are people who depend on them for sustenance. And really it's rather disingenuous to call the people setting these traps "poachers". Normally when you think of poachers you think of thuggish killers only in it for a profit. But even in this article, which to me appears quite biased, they admit that the traps are set by local bush-meat hunters. What they do might technically be illegal (though those laws likely only exist because of Western pressure), but to them it's just a way of life. I know Diane Fossey had trouble with the locals when she first showed up and started dismantling traps. I seem to remember from an Adam Curtis documentary that they even killed a couple gorillas just to spite her. But I don't think they have a complete disregard for the natural world that surrounds them. They just hold their own survival/advancement in higher regard. And who are we to really judge that, given that most Western affluence came at the expense of vast ecological destruction.

And imagine what it must be like for these people to see some foreigners come in and spend tons of money and energy on saving gorillas and basically treat you as the enemy. I'd probably be thinking, why the hell aren't they helping me instead, is my life worth less than a gorillas to them?

I don't have any great answers to all this. Like everything there is a lot of gray area to this story. But hopefully while we cheer on the survival of the gorillas, we should also spare a thought for the survival of the local humans as well. This article certainly didn't. In fact it pretty much cast them as the villains who were heroically thwarted by a couple brave young gorillas.
So, the new claim is that making a directory and running a script is too hard for you: http://www.chromium.org/nativeclient/sdk/howto_buildtestsdk

Seriously, this is just absurd. I don't know what you think you're arguing at this point, but I don't have the energy to correct you anymore.
I am Swedish, and Sweden is pretty close to Norway. We share culture, history and traditions. Many of my friends are Norwegians, and I've been there too.

If the killer was not white and "Norwegian" (as we think a true norwegian should be), but rather a muslim extremist from Saudi Arabia, would they react the same way?

Here in Scandinavia (and maybe everywhere) racism may seem alien but is never far away. I am sure, and saddened by the fact, that we would have reacted with hate and fear if the killer was not white, Norwegian and christian.
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Mobile is here to stay, I agree. But I think the future of this kind of mobile app business model is a lot less certain.
i'm curious: do you think you are or have been an outlier? I've had the occasional 16 hour stint on something I'm excited about, but this isn't the common case for me. 4-6 hours a day is what I produce in optimum ordinary conditions nowadays.
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One possibility is that for a startup founder, there usually is a great variety of work.

One hour you could be writing code, the next answering a support email, the next pitching a prospective customer, and so on. It could be that by switching gears every few hours, people are able to retain some of their productivity.
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In that case, my Dad should have founded a startup; he seems to be able to work 60 hour weeks indefinitely.
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Nice idea, needs some graphs maybe? Also, a search for C# returns Linus as the top result ;)
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Me neither. My high school offered college scholarships for men going into nursing, and I've seen posts in women-oriented boards about how to attract more men to events. It doesn't seem crazy at all...
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There are some issues with the numbers in this post:

Thus, when Dominique revealed to Ellis Hamburger in August 2011 that Sparrow had made at least $350k in it’s first 6 months in the Mac App Store, they had already been working at least a year on the app.

The article actually states they made over half a million in the first 6 months

DL: In terms of numbers we've made more than half a million dollars in the past six months since Sparrow was introduced in February.

I don’t currently have an app in the Mac App Store, so it’s hard for me to estimate sales, but I’d bet the Mac version isn’t generating much more revenue, even at the higher $9.99 price point.

I do. You really can't take iOS App Store sales trends and extrapolate them to the Mac App Store, the markets are quite different.

1. Sparrow is first and foremost a Mac app, and its target demographic is (or was) Mac users. The iOS version is supplementary. Without the ability to do push on iOS they wouldn't have been able to deliver as great of a user experience on iOS anyway. I would bet that the vast majority of their sales actually come from the Mac version.

2. Mac apps don't drop out of visibility nearly as quickly as they do on the iOS App Store. Part of this is because it takes a LOT more effort to produce a quality Mac app compared to an iOS app.

3. The Mac version of Sparrow has been pretty consistently in the Top 50 Grossing on the Mac App Store since launch[1]. I would be surprised if they weren't averaging at least $1000-1500/day on sales of the Mac app alone, with much higher spikes when they hit the Top 10 Grossing.

That said, I will agree that whatever they were making was probably not sustainable for a team of 5, especially compared to the $25M that Google was offering.

[1] http://www.appannie.com/app/mac/sparrow/ranking/history/#vie...
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> It should be noted that what is needed for assembly line productivity is different than what is needed for complex cognitive tasks. The more demanding the cognitive task, the more important sleep and relaxation are. That is why in Steve McConnell's classic Rapid Development he advocates a 35 hour week.

In my personal experience this is 100% right. But the reason could be the level of pressure and the anxiety involved.

On manual jobs I can work more than 8 hours a day with a good productivity and without feeling tired. In software development I can't. Probably this depends on the pressure. If you are in a manual jobs with higher productivity pressure (like assemble <n> units a day where the average is less than that) will have a similar effect.

Also I find a difference between people who have an expertise in a more specific software development field (SQL databases) than on people who jump to different problems/languages/technologies in different computer fields all the time. You can maintain your productivity if you narrowed your areas of expertise.
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>>What IDEs do is remembering and accounting.

Nearly all creative work is delta improvements on remembering and accounting previous sources of knowledge.

>>What separates the best programmers from the herd is thinking, and it's not embodied in an IDE.

What makes you think there are hundreds and thousands of best programmers?
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Exactly. We and gorillas share much more behavior than most realize. Everything from desire for friendship and love to desire for social status and achievement work pretty much EXACTLY the same. A book which made me realize this is "Sex and War: How Biology Explains Warfare and Terrorism and Offers a Path to a Safer World". Title seems a bit unrelated to this topic, but this book basically shows that pretty much all our motivations are inherited from our great ape ancestors (and are shared by chimps – out closest living specie in terms of behavior).