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This move might be good for Google, but I find it somewhat alarming as a consumer. Those who control or curate content (Google, NBC/Comcast, Facebook) should not control infrastructure. This was less of a concern when Google was acting as a conduit of information, but as Google moves to treat personal (if aggregate) data as property and profits from user-generated data like YouTube or Google+, the lines become significantly blurred.

There may be nothing wrong intrinsically with controlling content and infrastructure, but it seems to be bad for consumers generally, as exhibited by Comcast[0]. And while a high-speed competitor to local cable monopolies is exciting, I worry about trading one dictator for another just because there's some competition in the transition period from the old guard to the new.

Is there some safeguard in place Kansas City and other fiber recipients have arranged to prevent Google from having the power to exert cable-esque control? Not rhetorical, genuinely curious.

EDIT: I'd like to make it clear that I'm not anti-Google, I don't think they're evil, or abuse consumer data, or are actively trying to become the next Comcast. I am, however, expressing concern over the position of power they will find themselves in if Fiber takes off. So far I've seen a lot of comments suggesting Google is not evil, to which I agree, but I haven't seen any indicating that there are adequate checks in place to (relatively easily) prevent the abuse of power.

[0]http://scrawford.net/blog/comcastnbcu-will-raise-costs-for-c...
"surprise" loss? I guess a lot of people are surprised by things that seemed obvious to me. Zynga's userbase consists of fossilized shut-ins who don't know they're wasting money buying virtual trinkets online. As they die off, their revenue stream will too.
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I think I was probably looking at list price.
Only on a netbook. On a couple of Win7 loaded netbooks, safari seemed to use less memory and run noticeably faster than chrome, firefox, and yes IE.

I'd use it as a primary on those systems except for the fact that some of my essential extensions don't work on the windows version.
There is no way to 'export' your 'purchases'.

Some games have license keys, which work if you do a manual install. Some games also work fine outside of steam if you activate the game executable from the filesystem (all of the admittedly few I've tried have worked this way)
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I guess they should ban hot stoves, grills, harmful toxins, and everything else a child can come into contact with. This falls on the parents. If you have a product your child can get injured by, don't leave it in plain sight and don't let your child play with it.
But they do sell the software. Either directly as a managed solutions to big companies, or very indirectly implement something per request or to solve an internal need. Or even offering support or getting some features sponsored. You may not give them money, but there are people / companies that do.
This is partly true. Ignorance of patents means getting hit with damages instead of treble damages.

It is also relevant to what shape the laws should have.
True, however if you had no idea what Google Fibre was, the knowledge that an announcement is coming is not too exciting.
Because they have no sources or comment from the company, and the entire article is speculation based on poking around the apple website
Yeah but, Windows 8 itself is a train wreck. Seriously, who is going to upgrade to it? It's too different.

Nobody is going to go out of their way to buy it, the only installs it will get is as OEM's on new hardware.

And I bet even the OEMs will offer Windows 7 for as long as they can.

I think if users _have_ to have something different they will seriously consider OSX and Linux. One is more polished on better hardware for people who have money and want the best. The other is free for people who don't care.
I install it when Apple says they've made it the fastest browser ever. Then I run the benchmarks and see that it isn't and uninstall it.
We need a public service announcement to show the differences, something along the lines of "I'm a MAC, I'm an IP"
Interestingly, they all redirect to a 404 page except Cities/Pre-register, at http://fiber.google.com/cities/ which is a 'broken' link.

What could it mean??!?
Google is small fries compared to the corporate clout behind the IOC and its iron-fisted marketing and control of the Olympics.

So, fuck the Olympics. I feel bad for the athletes, but they need to find a less toxic arena to demonstrate their skills.
If there is a loosening of internet gambling and gaming acts, I fully expect the process to be highly regulated. MGM and Las Vegas Sands are equipped to handle the gaming requirements, but more importantly they have a core gambling business to fall back on. ZNGA's core business is shaky.
It depends on what you want for your career.

Either on a resume is just saying, "Hey look, I have a bit more education than the next guy in the pile!" - and little else. It can be a marginal advantage there, but the effect is often negligible compared to networking.

What's more important is acquiring skills and experience. Do you want to learn more advanced CS theory, or do you want to start learning business theory? Keep in mind that you can choose one and still take classes from the other.

Also keep in mind that an MBA is really intended for corporate middle management. If that's the job you want, go for it. If you're more interested in startupville like much of the population of HN, then pursuing practical experience with product launches and building a business may be a more efficient use of your time.
Your point is valid but the things that keep linux from widespread adoption go way way beyond drivers (and drivers are a big deal).

I really wonder how many people commending have used Linux as daily drivers on laptops for a long time? I've been using linux for over 10 years exclusively and I love the culture and the idea but I'll also be the first one to admit that the Linux desktop just plain sucks and is a buggy mess.
! Gbps upload and download speed. Wonderful. Unless you can give me an static IP address and let me serve whatever I want from that IP than I'm not failling out of my chair over this.
There isn't anything of importance in cosmology that's a clean multiple of 14.6 billion LY. Anything under discussion at that scale would by influenced by the Hubble expansion.

But, yeah, being misinformed about cosmology doesn't make you an idiot. Hyperbole.
Love it, thank you. Noted here:

https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/138
You're worried about Google censoring content or protocols?
And if your NIC dies and needs to be replaced, imagine having to update all the other machines that referred to the old MAC.
Adding "real money" isn't as simple as it sounds. Internet gambling in the US, if it returns, will be highly regulated.
Patent troll company setup for nothing more than litigation, just one of the many problems with that.
> I expect developers will quickly find ways to write software which consumes an entire 1Gbps link.

Twitter .js app will be like 400mb.
Their product is blackmail. Wow.
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What happens when a large company that Google deems a competitor tries to buy bulk use of the fiber? I could see Facebook lobbying for government regulation of Google's fiber in an attempt to secure competitive pricing.
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I don't know why this was modded down. Google Fiber customers will certainly be required to use their Google Account to sign up.
Tenures are not 2-3 years when you're financially independent. When you have an epic trump card in all conversations about what you should spend your time on, do you think you'd spend more than a minute doing something you didn't want to?

I believe the term is "fuck-you money".

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Honestly, the more network is out there, the better.

There is probably an upper limit on the number of networks any given city can support, so it's going to be natural for some combination of content sources to be partnered with fiber distribution networks to revenue share.

It's enormously costly to deliver "wireline" fiber to the home service. Most of this is labor cost, but you also can't discount the impact of property taxes and upkeep on infrastructure that is supposed to weather the elements and wildlife (including human) for upwards of 30 years.

Fiber is a great solution but wireless is still the most economical way to deliver access for the "last-mile". If we ever find a way to provide low-cost, high bandwidth wireless service within a one mile radius that doesn't make the NIMBY types have an aneurism, then fiber-to-the-home will seem as quaint as an individual copper pair to every residence.

disclaimer: In 1997-1998 I worked at a municipally owned city utility that was able to deliver 10mbps symmetric Internet access to a development of homes in FL. Bellsouth subsequently had laws passed to prohibit political subdivisions from engaging in the provisioning of telecommunication services.
802.11g is quite old, however. The current version of 802.11, 802.11n, supports rates up to 450Mbps. My laptop with a 2x2 antenna configuration (and pricey access point) does pretty close to the theoretical 300Mbps.

Incidentally, once you have a fiber optic connection between two points, you can do a lot better than 1Gbps.
Google's corporate motto is "Don't be Evil" and the United States has the 16th fastest broadband speeds in the world, and we invented the damn thing. Comcast, I agree, is a terrible monopolistic crack-baby of the capitalist society but Google is genuinely improving things.
that job tenure sounds about right for SV from where i'm sitting in sunnyvale.
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2-antenna 802.11n is very likely to saturate a 100mbit link. 4-antenna 802.11n will saturate a 100mbit link. (Remember, insist on 5ghz gear!)
I probably belong to that subset. "Bitter" is an uncomfortable term, but probably accurate. Personally, it's not that I think startups are a con game (and certainly not YC); it's that YC represents a tremendous amount of support and resources and influence that aren't available to people like me who are working just as hard, and are just as skilled, but aren't a good fit for YC.

It's tough in practice to not get a little envious of that support when you don't have it.

I still think it's good manners to keep my jealousy to myself though. This is a YCombinator forum after all; bringing bile here just because we're not alums is not cool.
You went to Harvard.

While it would be nice to think that the people accepted at Harvard are the most and only qualified people to go to Harvard we all know that is not the case.

Harvard can only accept so many people and many people who could do well there, and aren't accepted, will fail to get in because the decision process isn't perfect in who gets accepted and who doesn't (and I am not even speaking of people who get in for reasons such as family or some other advantage). There are only so many slots.

Substitute Harvard for anything where the amount of qualified people greatly exceed the number of slots available and the decision process isn't a lottery and the decision is made by humans.

So it would be natural for people to be jealous and maybe bitter if they see someone of equal ability to themselves get into Harvard. Especially if it was in their face everyday. (But it's not, at least with Harvard, the jealous person is probably on another campus. With YC, if you are a HN reader and enjoy it it is in your face every day.)
You don't. There are bounds on how much matter can be contained within your past light cone before it turns out you are simply in a black hole.

The number of possible past light cones that could originate from the same Big Bang using reasonable assumptions about QM is staggeringly large, but nevertheless, finite.
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While your concerns are legitimate - content should not control infrastructure; look at cellular carriers for the case study - there are also wins that are worth thinking about.

Not to be Pollyana; Google needs to be watched. So we all keep each other in check. The following disruptive moves benefit Google _and_ your average Joe:

1. Reduce bandwidth costs. Google pays to send data and we pay to receive it. This is just your classic elimination of the middleman, in this case the anti-competitive backbone and last-mile carriers. In theory the first to benefit from this are the startups with large bandwidth bills today.

2. Reduce delays associated with new tech. Google wants new tech like a larger TCP Initial Congestion Window [1], IPv6, SPDY / HTTP 2.0, or Strict Transport Security [2] to happen faster. As long as your average Joe has a fast enough pipe, these are a win-win. The lag in adoption comes from slow-moving risk-averse players, such as incumbent backbone providers.

3. Reduce mobile bandwidth costs. Google is already heavily invested in mobile broadband clients. In especially congested areas like New York, anything to reduce mobile broadband costs benefits Android first: the top tier of customers who don't feel the costs are probably using iOS.

There are more win-win situations but those are my top 3.

[1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-initcwnd-00
[2] http://dev.chromium.org/sts
The people in the photos appeared alarmingly void of enthusiasm. I'd also love to read any journals that have compiled results on this practice and whether it leads to real gains in productivity or software quality.
I think you just got lucky :/
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Google Wave tried to fix that problem but with the radical change in the way we use email, it failed.
Fiber is fundamentally no different than wireless. It's just at a high enough frequency the light is visible. That means you get much higher bandwidth. There's just no way around that.

If you could rig up visible-light laser communications, you wouldn't need the fiber. Fiber's just a convenient container.
While true, I trust Google more than I trust AT&T/Comcast/etc. The major ISPs need some competition. Google will provide it.
Yes, and that is a great thing. When journalism was the old school "I get a few bits of info and use it to decorate a short article with my uninformed opinion about random topics I have nothing to do with", it was worse. Each time I had an insider knowledge of the topic, I was horrified by how biased, approximate, reductive, or plain wrong journalism was.

I also have direct reports (my wife) of journalists asking questions in the streets to many people until they got the answer they were looking for. I bet it is common practice: you are not only told to write a piece about X, you are also implicitly told what to write and you just bend your material, data or street interview or whatnot, in the direction that will get the more emotional reaction from the reader.

Disc: I'm talking about French journalism here, maybe US journalism or Eskimo journalism is magically much better, I don't know.
voting aside (which I'm not convinced belongs in email), what is the difference between reddit's comment system and the threading algorithm used by muas like pine?
>One is more polished on better hardware for people who have the money and want the best.

Is this at all true? If you spent an identical sum of money on a PC would you not get better hardware?
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If he is sincere then he is brilliant because he realizes the open path.
If you're just looking to run a server, a VPN service like Linode or bulk hosting like S3 will be more effective and less expensive than residential hosting.
I don't think most games can be published in the windows 8 app store. They have very strict guidelines about the types of apps that will be listed. Specifically, only metro-style, full screen apps that use a specific subset of the .NET framework. I don't know of any games right now that would fit that requirement, certainly not the types of games that make steam popular. Especially when you consider the most popular games are exclusive to steam.
I don't know if these are particularly groundbreaking

Other than the "Actionsteps," a lot of what's in this proposed client sounds a lot like features in Postbox. I can switch to a "show me all attachments" view, for instance, and Postbox works very well with a lot of GMail-specific features (labels, priority, etc.).
Knowing google, they're just going to run 8 different routes to any given place and leave cut cable in the ground, then replace the whole network in 10 years or so.
And what level of taxation are we talking about?
Dune 2 was pretty much the sole reason why I wanted Amiga initially.
As another poster indicated, it is to benefit society. This makes a lot of sense on a practical level. If society is going to expend energy protecting such monopolies, it should be getting something in return.

It seems that the letter of the law has failed to achieve this. I'm not saying this is an easy problem to solve, however it is becoming a bigger problem as big companies commit more money to use these laws in ways that miss the original intent.

As such there is an increasingly urgent need to address the issue and revise the old straining laws with the experience gained in order to protect the original intent.
Well, although that's a nice metaphor for the answer, in practice I can imagine that using a personally unique ID for physical mail routing is quite possible. A billion or so rows in a database that links an ID number to spatial coordinates is perfectly conceivable, it'd only be in the tens of gigabytes. It'd also aid in redeliveries and redirections. There would be no reason to even keep this unique, one could have many such numbers to avoid correlations.

Using the SSN itself, of course, has vast privacy & security complications.

Why doesn't this work for IP? Because on that scale, the route table is too large to advertise and too large to keep in the working memory of current router linecard ASICs for sub-microsecond lookup, speeds a postal service does not aspire to.
What about a phone is content? Content is something you spend time watching, or playing - nothing google sells is content, it's all service. All of their content is derived from other people, and they enable content creation on a grand scale. With the exception of a few google blogs and videos, it's all a way to get where you're going, not a thing in itself.

The day there's a google studios, or google game production, or google music labels, they'll be creating content.
Ah, so that must be how they come up with billion dollar valuations for photo apps...
Ahhh .... yes I think that's actually the movie I was thinking of. Brilliant.
In 1999 I sold a domain name to a KPCB company. I remember very distinctively the team members throwing in my face how they were a KCPB company and that they could just buy my entire company if they wanted the domain name. It was one of Vinod Khoslas hand picks apparently. Founder was a Stanford Grad [1] This was probably at the top of the KCPB hype I haven't seen it like that since back in that time period. Anyway, they bought the domain and folded within a few years failing spectacularly.

[1] Out of curiosity I just checked and the founder is a VP at Vmware.
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The point is that people are concerned about shortcomings in the beta because they do not have confidence in Microsoft to fix those problems. Whether that lack of confidence is justified or not is another matter.
I'd be hesitant to predict this sort of result. Vista was very weird for those of us used to XP, and was widely panned in a similar way as a train wreck -- but people started buying, certainly. Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment was new and surprising, but it seems to be holding up.

Comfort is only one of the huge driving factors in these sorts of scenarios. That Microsoft has given up the mantle of comfort in the name of pushing forward is probably a good thing. Had they stuck with comfort, I'd still have to support the nightmare that was IE5. ^_^ Now you see big companies turning to Apple in the hopes of not only seeming more urban and modern to the people they're recruiting, but also to hopefully keep a very standard set of features and UI: it is quite possible, if admittedly a little crazy-sounding, to imagine that in ten years or so the post-Jobs Apple will reverse places with the post-Gates Microsoft.

Ultimately, if you change others, and others change you, that is a building-block for love in the most general sense. The things that we are fanatical about are the programming languages that really changed our lives, the operating systems that we put in the effort to understand and master, the technologies which altered our workflows and our day-to-day living. Love is always transformative, and Microsoft was getting too stagnant to be loved. Only time can tell whether their present changes will bring back some of that fanaticism which is sorely lacking.
Just to add my 2c, a blog post on this and the reasons behind it are a really good idea.

As soon as I saw 'log in' I immediately returned to HN comments to find out what was going on. Many people won't have that luxury, or patience.
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That is quite strange, since I've never seen a 30" monitor with any "extra" features, nor have I read a review of one. I assumed it simply wasn't done.

I was very surprised when I got a 30" monitor with more than one input.
Except Google has been acting pretty 'evil' recently.

The disgraceful FRAND abuses, the privacy abuses, the anti-competitive expansion of Google Search. Hence why they are under multiple investigations by ITC, EU, US governments.

So it is far better to assume NOBODY should be trusted.
No WPEngine hosted sites, or their own domain are loading in comodo's chromium based browser... they all go to a 403 forbidden error message
As much as I wish this were true (I've been gunning for the MS downfall forever), I doubt it will be the case.

My (non-technical) girlfriend recently needed a reformat, so on a whim I installed the 8 RC to see what her reaction would be.

She loves it. It is, quite simply, the first Windows release that presents software in a friendly and usable way that allows the non-technical user to get just as much from a PC as they could from a Mac.

Difference drives the uptake of software, otherwise we'd still be on Windows 95. 8 is just as rock stable as 7, but faster, and with an interface that is more logical and easy to grasp. I see no reason why it won't be a huge success (besides some kind of major corporate-IT catastrophe).

Newell's comments are leveled at Microsoft's monopoly on software distribution for Windows RT, which may in fact cause a disruption much like the one he outlines. The consumer, however, will finally learn what the "flag button" on their keyboard is for.
The radeon driver is open source. It should just work, assuming it can work. (Maybe it doesn't support your card currently?)

If you are talking about fglrx then I forsee nothing but pain for you. I doubt even Valve's encouragement can improve that situation.