skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>Was it Pareto or Orwell or someone else who had claimed that every organisation eventually develops an informal inner circle

the pervasion of this thought-killer amongst x-percenters makes me indignantly curious about what stuff the actual inner-circlers actually spend their supposedly limited attention on.. shipping?

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As tlb pointed out, since it's hard to distinguish meretocrats from meritocrats, "RAS" may not apply..
I guess it's kind of intuitive that if you are playing an exhaustive game (all 52 cards) that the optimal solution would not only be optimal but deterministically so. But I wonder if that idea just feels good and isn't true. Is it false? Anyone have a counter-example?
Not RT-safe.
It makes sense. You wouldn't want to license something to a startup only for your competitor to buy them out from under you to get an advantage / bypassing talking to you directly.
Ooh this is neat, I've been working on something similar. I'll have to check it out and see if they're using the same abstractions as I am. Could be enlightening!
> ...me countless of...would never try this without having LLMs...is extremely useful...they'll literally be able to solve...will be able to... in a few hours.

That's marketing language, not scientific or even casual language. So much outstanding claims, without even some basic explanations. Like how did it help you save these hours? Terms explanations? Outlining processes? Going to the post office for you? You don't need to sell me anything, I just want the how.
Most professional sports players are unionized and they move around all the time. :P

I hope we get a union with a draft and such.
And the consumers of the event stream still need to have a database to deal with state management. So you're just moving the database elsewhere.
Indeed. The Moon's surface temperature swings between 250F and -208F and it's essentially the same distance from the Sun as Earth is. The wild swings happen because the Moon has no atmosphere.

https://www.space.com/18175-moon-temperature.html
I have always voted for the Unix style multiple do one thing good blackboxes as the plumbing in the ruling agent.

Divide and conquer me hearties.
Thanks. I was rushing out to the gym.
In Minneapolis, MN, there is a historical plaque that notes the day and location of the first gray squirrels introduced to the city as a gift from Seattle/Washington. It’s in Loring Park.

So kind of opposite direction.
The developers could do sneaky things with any device that has wifi and a mic.
It's the same about using the cloud or using your own infrastructure there will be a point where building your own solar and battery plant is cheaper than what they are charging they will need to follow the price decline if they want to keep the customers if not there will be mass scale grid defections.
My personal 5 cents is that reasoning will be there when LLM gives you some kind of outcome and then when questioned about it can explain every bit of result it produced.

For example, if we asked an LLM to produce an image of a "human woman photorealistic" it produces result. After that you should be able to ask it "tell me about its background" and it should be able to explain "Since user didn't specify background in the query I randomly decided to draw her standing in front of a fantasy background of Amsterdam iconic houses. Usually Amsterdam houses are 3 stories tall, attached to each other and 10 meters wide. Amsterdam houses usually have cranes on the top floor, which help to bring goods to the top floor since doors are too narrow for any object wider than 1m. The woman stands in front of the houses approximately 25 meters in front of them. She is 1,59m tall, which gives us correct perspective. It is 11:16am of August 22nd which I used to calculate correct position of the sun and align all shadows according to projected lighting conditions. The color of her skin is set at RGB:xxxxxx randomly" etc.

And it is not too much to ask LLMs for it. LLMs have access to all the information above as they read all the internet. So there is definitely a description of Amsterdam architecture, what a human body looks like or how to correctly estimate time of day based on shadows (and vise versa). The only thing missing is logic that connects all this information and which is applied correctly to generate final image.

I like to think about LLMs as a fancy genius compressing engines. They took all the information in the internet, compressed it and are able to cleverly query this information for end user. It is a tremendously valuable thing, but if intelligence emerges out of it - not sure. Digital information doesn't necessarily contain everything needed to understand how it was generated and why.
Maybe I'm missing something but how does the system handle the growing list of payments that are stuck in limbo (i.e. memory) until the customer completes the payment (equivalent to abandoned carts)? Doesn't there need to be a mechanism for purging stale payment requests, lest memory eventually become completely consumed?
Britannica Didn’t Just Survive. It’s an A.I. Company Now.
Good luck inferring how to use that from some C programmer’s deranged custom linked list.

C programmers don’t do linked lists by using libraries, they hand roll them, and often they are more complex than “just” a linked list. Lots of complex stuff out there.
A chess grandmaster will see the best move instantly then spends his entire clock checking it
I think you did not watch the full video. The model performs at PhD level on maths questions, and expert level at coding.
Is Arm seriously claiming that all design work that makes use of their ISA is derivative work?

I assume Arm has some patents on the ISA [1] and the only way to get a license to them is to sign something that effectively says all your work exists at Arm's sufferance. After that we're just negotiating the price.

[1] You and I hate this but it's probably valid in the US.
Acquihire's are very common. You can negotiate who is coming with you (or force getting the entire team and not just the A players), agreed to pay raises during the transfer, stock or other important roles, etc. Less unsettling for the employees too, having to go through the interview pipeline like a walk-in would.

Sometimes its the entire goal. Leave a company to fill a need it can't solve itself with the plan to get bought back in later.

Times have changed tho so who knows.
Great way to introduce novel security vulnerabilities!

If that’s the Rust way, then I’m all for it. Will make it easier for Fil-C to have some epic kill shots.
Just don't have kids?
spend a little time learning how to use LLMs and i think you'll be less scared. they're not that good at doing the job of a software developer.
I am very much not of the impression that "contains logical fallacies" is the biggest problem with "respecting basic forum guidelines" around here.
I think Firefox is truly superior on the desktop, but Firefox on mobile is inferior. I also once switched to Brave (on mobile and as a secondary browser on desktop), but lately, in the last year or so, Brave has become bloated with services and features that I don't need and can't disable. I am back with Firefox (Fennec, to be precise). Not a great experience, but good enough for me.
Here is the underlying dataset https://www.ipums.org/projects/ipums-cps/d030.V11.0

Redfin did the analysis quoted https://www.redfin.com/news/homeownership-rate-by-generation...
until there are someone crazy enough that put those robot access to LLM network that can execute and visualize real world, we fine
Yeah, this entire thread seems utterly detached from my lived experience. LLMs are immensely useful for me at work but they certainly don't come close to the hype spouted by many commenters here. It would be great if it could handle more of our quite modest codebase but it's not able to yet
If anyone else is curious about which ARC-AGI public eval puzzles o3 got right vs wrong (and its attempts at the ones it did get right), here's a quick visualization: https://arcagi-o3-viz.netlify.app
I think throwaway already explained what i was getting at.

That said, i probably did downplay the achievement. It may not be a "new" idea to do something like this but finding an effective method for reflection that doesn’t just lock you into circular thinking and is applicable beyond well defined problem spaces is genuinely tough and a breakthrough.
Process vision and sounds in parallel for 80+ years, rapidly adapt to changing environments and scenarios, correlate seemingly irrelevant details that happened a week ago or years ago, be able to selectively ignore instructions and know when to disagree
Is there? LiveLeak and it's ilk are gone now
The Next Great Leap in AI Is Behind Schedule and Crazy Expensive
you can have kids, but they can’t be salesman. Maybe carpenters
"IF"

And the opposite holds, if the AI surgeon is worse (great for 80%, but sucks at the edge cases for example) then that's it. Build a better one, go through attempts at certification, but now with the burden that no one trusts you.

The assumption, and a common one by the look of this whole thread, that ChatGPT, Sora and the rest represent the beginning of an inevitable march towards AGI seems incredible baseless to me. It's only really possible to make the claim at all because we know so little about what AGI is, that we can project qualities we imagine it would have onto whatever we have now.
Society hasn’t setup future society to be better. It’s a grab and go everywhere you look and it’s tiring. This is coming from a millennial with a good tech job. I cannot imagine how younger generations feel.
We can comfortably host 100B or more on this beautiful planet. Just gotta be strategic about it.
Good points, though if an 'AI' can be made powerful enough to displace technical fields en masse then pretty much everything that isn't manual is going to start sinking fast.

On the plus side, LLMs don't bring us closer to that dystopia: if unlimited knowledge(tm) ever becomes just One Prompt Away it won't come from OpenAI.
nobody said anything about ads
Agreed. Tears of joy, it is hoped!

>The systems programmer has read the kernel source, to better understand the deep ways of the universe, and the systems programmer has seen the comment in the scheduler that says “DOES THIS WORK LOL,” and the systems programmer has wept instead of LOLed
hey, I with you in this hope scenario

people, what I mean people is government have tremendous power over capitalist that can force the entire market granted that government if still serving its people
They have been promoted to pets. Oh wait..
Then it’s pretty suprising considering your company would have a direct line to multiple senior people at Mountain View…
Anything can any thing , that is not what I said .

OP implied they like it if they can get it, and is the better food for them , that is not true
I think the effects of cognitive load on code readability can be demonstrated with variable and function names:

phi
s
ses
session
cursor_session
database_session
dbs
db.session

Really short variable names reduce the cognitive burden for users that understand that "phi" means "database session", but frustrate users who aren't contextually familiar.

Really long variable names make it too difficult to verbalize and thus comprehend code.

Is 7±2 a practical limit to working memory for seasoned coders, though?
> The first agent decides whether the new email should be responded to, yes or no.

How would you trust that the agent is following the criteria, and how sure that the criteria is specific enough. Like someone you just meet told you they going to send you something via email, but then the agent misinterpret it due to missing context and decided to respond in a generic manner leading to misunderstanding.

> assume every single LLM call has been hijacked and don’t trust its input/output and you’ll be good.

Which is not new. But with formal languages, you have a more precise definition of what acceptable inputs are (the whole point of formalism is precise definitions). With LLM workflows, the whole environment should be assumed to be public information. And you should probably add a fine point that the output does not engage you in anything.
You can't bullshit a bullshitter. I'm a practicing Catholic. We've been putting Jesus, Mary, and Exuperius of Toulouse on things for a millennium to Christian-wash monuments to vanity. The Taj Mahal is about the Mughal emperor's bae, not about Allah.

I'm not saying Notre-Dame de Paris is a monument to the ego of Pope Alexander III. But the Taj Mahal is not a monument to the glorification of God. You're not going to win this argument.
Subsidizing in an insurance sense. It's a high risk area, insurance should have covered it. If it was too high risk, insurance shouldn't have covered it, or charge much more etc.
Seems like a similar thought to "Programming as Theory Building"[1].

The paper is well worth reading, but the TL;DR if you don't wanna: the "theory" of a program (how does it fit together? What extensions/modifications would work well, how should it evolve to handle new cases, etc.) is contained only in the mind of the coder; documentation, spoken explanations, etc. are attempts at describing that theory, but they are necessarily a lossy encoding of it. Certainly attrishing everyone who knows something about a codebase would be extremely foolish under Naur's argument.

Debt, I guess to me, is code deviating from a known better theory for it to follow.

[1]: https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/Naur.pdf
I have a thing in my garage that makes more noise than a plane taking off (from inside the cabin). So I concur.

Switch is not too bad, but the 2u (2x 1u nodes in one 2u package with a title or 2x 1u fans) server is a total madness.
Every technological advancement that we've seen in software engineering - be it in things like Postgres, Kubernetes and Cloud Infrastructure - came out from truly novel ideas. AI seems to generate outputs that appear novel but are they really? It's capable of synthesizing and combining vast amounts of information in creative ways but it's deriving everything from existing patterns found within its training data. Truly novel ideas require thinking outside the box. It's combination of cognitive, emotional and environmental factors which go beyond pattern recognition. How close are we to achieving this? Everyone seems to be shaking in their boots because we might lose our job safety in tech, but I don't see any intelligence here.
I agree that asynchronous flows are hard to represent using a state object.

I chose to go with a monadic approach in boardgamelab.app (I'm not limited by language features since I'm designing it from the ground up for this use case). The language is pure and functional with managed effects. You can express things like:

set of cards -> filter by action cards -> choose -> [card]
do stuff with [card]

written in a synchronous style, while under the hood it:

1. suspends the rule.

2. waits for the user to make a choice.

3. resumes the rule with the choice made by the user.

(note: listed above is a simplified text representation. The Boardgame Lab structure editor uses a block-based visual language.)

If written in Haskell, the underlying monad would look something like this:

{-# LANGUAGE ExistentialQuantification #-}

newtype Rule a = Rule {fn :: State -> (RuleResult a, State)}

data RuleResult a
= Done a
| forall x. Show x => Choose [x] (x -> Rule a)

instance Monad Rule where
m >>= k = Rule $ \state ->
case fn m state of
(Done a, state') -> fn (k a) state'
(Choose list m', state') -> (Choose list (m' >=> k), state')

i.e. each rule returns either a completed result or a choice along with a continuation of the remainder of the rule past that choice.
if all that needs to happen for world domination is for someone to make a cron job that hits the system to tells it "go make me some money" or whatever, I think we're in trouble.

also https://mashable.com/article/chatgpt-messaging-users-first-o...
Today on HN, Jonathan Haidt afficionados lament the decline of use of addictive, life ruining, hard drugs. Something about "formative experiences." I think it's a good thing kids don't do hard drugs today, information addiction is a thing may be but going back to hard drugs isn't a good thing.
Interesting stuff.

Would be VERY interested in having visualizations of Apple Music data. I've had 20+ years to build up pretty significant play history.

Certainly being able to look into every type of health data would yield interesting insights.

One minor thing that does bug me: US date format. Probably be better to default to whatever short-date format is the user's preference in iOS. Same goes for metric/imperial.

Looking forward to seeing more visualizations!
I’m pretty sure I’m running LLMs in my house right now for less than the price of my washing machine.
> Teenagers being frustrated that they wont be owning some posh expensive house

Posh expensive house? Nowhere was that mentioned.

The post-WWII 20th century American social contract was: "You will have the ability to get married, live in a modest home of your own, own a car, raise 2-3 young children, and go on a modest annual vacation even if you work in a factory".
try this: https://www.openread.academy/en/paper/reading?corpusId=51482...
> the message they seem to be receiving is that they are without a future...

At least when I was that age, it was usually the low income people who's greatest achievement in life would be avoiding prison, who usually turned towards smoking, alcohol, drugs and sex. See "Common People" and similar 80s/90s Britpop songs.

What changed?

I grew up in a lower middle class family, and for me the feeling that I could end up like that - as many people I went to school with did - was what pushed me to achieve. My parents could only just afford their bills, so I didn't get any handouts from them. Of course I don't have a Lambo, so maybe I'm considered a failure by Gen Z? Has the boundary of what is considered "successful" shifted?
Supermarkets sell promotional space and in some cases access to have products even appear in store, either through discounts on the wholesale price or straight up charging for it. They absolutely tilt things in favour of their own brands, and in some supermarkets in some categories don't stock any non house brands.

Spotify has discovered there is a big market for music where the quality isn't that important and they can serve it themselves. Same as supermarkets do with many products.
Rus's ownership model doesn't forbid doubly linked lists. It forbids doubly owned lists, or, in other words, «use after free» bug.
> Daniel told Tony his account was being accessed by someone in Frankfurt, Germany, and that he could evict the hacker and recover access to the account by clicking “yes” to the prompt that Google was going to send to his phone.

Come on.
Even Lego has struggled to keep making Mindstorm sets unfortunately
Until 2022 most AI research was aimed at improving the quality of the output, not the quantity.

Since then there has been a tsunami of optimizations in the way training and inference is done. I don't think we've even begun to find all the ways that inference can be further optimized at both hardware and software levels.

Look at the huge models that you can happily run on an M3 Mac. The cost reduction in inference is going to vastly outpace Moore's law, even as chip design continues on its own path.
> but remember that your digital fingerprints follow you EVERYWHERE. You can't turn them off or disable them on your side like cookies.

I'm honestly curious, if you don't mind clarifying a bit more. How do your digital fingerprints follow you everywhere without your being able to erase them? This thread goes into device fingerprinting, but if one rigorously changes devices and certain use/account practices, how can they still be tracked so totally?
This is what I’m thinking. All of the kids I know from 16-22 are the most level headed group of young adults I’ve known. It is hilarious to me that this group of brilliant technologists leans so heavily towards seeing the absolute worst in every data point.

Could it be that, kids are doing less drugs because they’re more informed, less bored, and less reckless than previous generations?

We all aspire that our kids will do better than we have. We did our best to instill a sense of confidence and worth in them.

What if it is finally starting to just, f’ing work?
My completely unsubstantiated pet hypothesis about this is that it's cheaper and easier to cache the same click bait for everyone instead of different well tailored recommendations.
Blippo.plus – Another Gem from Panic?
Is it a Game? Tv Channel? AI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVIZjoZ8WWQ
Incorrect title. "Illegal drug use among teens drops" is what the study is talking about.

Psychoactive prescriptions are up probably orders of magnitude in the last fifty years.

People have been talking about "self medicating" with alcohol and other legal drugs to deal with various problems for decades. Now there are legal "doctor medicating" options.
>Parent is not wrong, but definitely could have some improved manners and tact.

I don't understand the weird tone policing that people are trying to do, there is literally nothing wrong with the parent's comment and pretending otherwise is weird.
That's the sort of thing ideas guys think. I came up with a novel idea once, called Actually Portable Executable: https://justine.lol/ape.html It took me a couple days studying binary formats to realize it's possible to compile binaries that run on Linux/Mac/Windows/BSD. But it took me years of effort to make the idea actually happen, since it needed a new C library to work. I can tell you it wasn't "asking questions" that organized five million lines of code. Now with these agents everyone who has an idea will be able to will it into reality like I did, except in much less time. And since everyone has lots of ideas, and usually dislike the ideas of others, we're all going to have our own individualized realities where everything gets built the way we want it to be.
What's the reference here? I thought Pink Floyd at first.
GitOps Is Not the Right Tool for the Job
Surely the elites that control this fancy new technology will share the benefits with all of us _this_ time!
Brains are split internally, with each having their own monologue. One happens to have command.
>Britannica Didn’t Just Survive. It’s an A.I. Company Now.

I wouldn't call that surviving. It's like someone reanimating your corpse and pretending it's still you.