skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Or people with families and health insurance problems may be able to hire a hitman.
That'll work out nicely when you have 5 people learning nothing and just asking GPT to do everything and then you have a big terrible codebase that GPT can't effectively operate on, and a team that doesn't know how to do anything.

Bullish
Thing better find a way to make my hair grow back at that price.

Of course, I'm not the target market.

Some guy who wants to increase his bonus by laying off a few hundred people weeks before the holidays is the target market.
Exactly the point I am trying and evidently largely failing to get across :-) You managed it more concisely than me.
It is not good enough to replace workers of a skill level I would hire. But that won't stop people doing it.
There's also his 2014 cameo in Pearls before Swine:

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2014/06/04

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2014/06/05

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2014/06/06

And the story: https://stephanpastis.wordpress.com/2014/06/07/ever-wished-t...
The American Medical Association, American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons, the American Board of Orthopedic Surgeons, and the American Council for Graduate Medical Education are all unions

Powerful unions
It does not say anything about real use cases. It performs better and "reason" better than o1-preview and o1. But I was expecting some real-life scenarios when it would be useful in a way no other model can do now.
Tennis and rock climbing. Sports are easy gateways for friendship
Thank you for the response, I was missing important context. I came across this scrolling through the WAC page. I found a few articles that clear it up as well:

"Effective January 1, 2025, exempt computer professionals paid at an hourly rate must be paid at least $58.31 per hour in order to be exempt." [0]

"...or $58.31 per hour and be exempt from overtime pay." [1]

[0] https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/washington-increases-...

[1] https://www.millernash.com/industry-news/washington-state-an...
if o1 pro mode could integrate with web searching to do research, make purchases, and write and push code, this would be totally worth it. but that version will be $2000/mo.
the original awk book is available somewhere on the net by googling. it is very good.
> It's entirely reasonable to bring up the fact that most Americans are happy with their health care.

You can bring it up and it very well may be factually true, but it's irrelevant to the discussion.
I think it’s easier to just pay for the api directly. That’s what I do with ChatGPT and o1 even though I’m a plus subscriber.
Honestly, my plan is to establish myself as a valuable contributor, then transition to a part time contractor / consultant.

The danger once you become fully financially independent is that neither you or companies are willing to compromise on your working terms and you retire by default.

I'm sure I could happily work on saas or open source projects the rest of my life, but it would be nice if I could trade some of that energy and enthusiasm in on work that pays consistently.
Well, the tax rate for people making (say) more than 2 million / year could just be 50%, and then increase by 10% for every 0 added.

$20 million -> 60%

$200 million -> 70%

$2 billion -> 80%

I think that would bring things under control without resorting to extrajudicial means. But apparently, that's completely impossible to achieve in the US, so here we are...
This is literally just a video of getting somewhere midday in LA via highway vs surface streets? Waymos don't drive on highways in LA yet (just in the bay area, I think?)
Seems like I'm one of very few excited by this announcement. I will totally pay for this - the o1-preview limits really hamper me.
$20 a month is reasonable because a computer can do in an hour what a human can do in a month. Multiplying that by ten would suggest that the world is mostly made of Python and that the solution space for those programs has been "solved." GPT is still not good at writing Clojure and paying 10x more would not solve this problem for me.
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This was my first big purchase after I finished my Masters. Absolutely loved it. I would often pick a random volume out of the collection, open it to a random page and read. Delightful books, good memories.
Yes, I was mistaken. Instead, it seems to be referring to a salary or hourly threshold specifically for overtime exemption.
This is dumb because it's literally doing what it has been instructed to do, as well as given access to means to carry out those actions. Just another hype mechanism for OpenAI.
You can also make yourself a Hobbes costume and put that on when you read to your kid.
Concurrency vs. paralellism (2018)
Gotta meet where the people are to get them unstuck!
Don't you worry; the "rich West" will have plenty of disenfranchised people out of work because of this sort of thing.

Now, whether the labor provided by the AI will be as high-quality as that provided by a human when placed in an actual business environment will be up in the air. Probably not, but adoption will be pushed by the sunk cost fallacy.
> and the companies trying to turn 5 positions into 2 aren’t paying enough to reliably get and keep two people who are good at it.

it's turning 5 positions into 7: 5 people to do what currently needs to get done, 2 to try to replace those 5 with AI and failing for several years.
> We should pause to note that a Clippy2 still doesn’t really think or plan. It’s not really conscious. It is just an unfathomably vast pile of numbers produced by mindless optimization starting from a small seed program that could be written on a few pages. It has no qualia, no intentionality, no true self-awareness, no grounding in a rich multimodal real-world process of cognitive development yielding detailed representations and powerful causal models of reality which all lead to the utter sublimeness of what it means to be human; it cannot ‘want’ anything beyond maximizing a mechanical reward score, which does not come close to capturing the rich flexibility of human desires, or historical Eurocentric contingency of such conceptualizations, which are, at root, problematically Cartesian. When it ‘plans’, it would be more accurate to say it fake-plans; when it ‘learns’, it fake-learns; when it ‘thinks’, it is just interpolating between memorized data points in a high-dimensional space, and any interpretation of such fake-thoughts as real thoughts is highly misleading; when it takes ‘actions’, they are fake-actions optimizing a fake-learned fake-world, and are not real actions, any more than the people in a simulated rainstorm really get wet, rather than fake-wet. (The deaths, however, are real.)

https://gwern.net/fiction/clippy
So what are the limits of the o1 pro mode? I'm waiting to purchase this at work!
I’m not advocating the assassination of CEOs or board members, but in the back of my mind I’ve always wondered why it doesn’t happen regularly. People on both sides of the political spectrum have a deep hatred for the corporate/financial elite.
"Open"AI - If you pay to play. People in developing countries where USD200 feeds a family of four for a month clearly won't be able to afford it and are disadvantaged.
Def on the higher end of social media IQ spectrum
Unfortunately I'm seeing that in my company already. They are forcing AI tools down our throat and execs are vastly misinterpreting stats like '20% of our code is coming from AI'.

What that means is the simple, boilerplate and repetitive stuff is being generated by LLM's, but anything complex or involving more than a singular simple problem LLM's often provide more problems than benefit. Effective dev's are using it to handle simple stuff and Execs are thinking 'the team can be reduced by x', when in reality you can get rid of at best your most junior and least trained people without loosing key abilities.

Watching companies try to sell their AI's and "Agents" as having the ability to reason is also absurd but the non-technical managers and execs are eating it up...
I am not so sure about "replace" atleast at my company we are always short staffed (mostly cause we cant find people fast enough given how long the whole interview cycle takes). It might actually free some people up to do more interviews.
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It almost definitely ingested hundreds of books, short stories, and film and television scripts from various online sites in the “machine goes rogue genre” which is fairly large.

It’s pretty much just an autocomplete of War Games, The Matrix, Neuromancer, and every other cyber-dystopian fiction.
> OpenAI says that it plans to add support for web browsing, file uploads, and more in the months ahead.

It's been extremely frustrating to not have these features on o1 and have limited what I can do with it. I'm presumably in the market who doesn't mind paying $200 / month but without the features they've added to 4o it feels not worth it.
It's for the guy at your office who will earn a bonus if he fires a few dozen people in the next 26 calendar days.
maintaining an application that uses Struts version 1 which has been EOL'ed decades ago. security vulnerability were discovered after EOL ( CVE-2014-0114, CVE-2015-0899, CVE-2016-1181, CVE-2016-1182...) so you know:

- find the source online

- get the build going

- fix the security problem

- deploy to local artifact repo

- keep on trucking ...
Ah yes, I forgot! Thanks for the reminder!
There are many use cases for which the price can go even higher. I look at recent interactions with people that were working at an interview mill: Multiple people in a boiler room interviewing for companies all day long, with a computer set up so that our audio was being piped to o1. They had a reasonable prompt to remove many chatbot-ism, and make it provide answers that seem people-like: We were 100% interviewing the o1 model. The operator said basically nothing, in both technical and behavioral interviews.

A company making money off of this kind of scheme would be happy to pay $200 a seat for an unlimited license. And I would not be surprised if there were many other very profitable use cases that make $200 per month seem like a bargain.
Classes are actually so great for meeting new people. Caveat: needs to be in person
If this is also available via API, then I could easily see myself keeping the $20/mo pro and supplementing with API-based calls to the $200/mo Pro model as needed.
"ChatGPT, what are the best things to see in Paris?"

"I recommend going to the Nestle chocolate house, a guided tour by LeGuide (click here for a free coupon) and the exclusive tour at the Louvre by BonGuide. (Note: this response may contain paid advertisements. Click here for more)"

"ChatGPT, my pc is acting up, I think it's a hardware problem, how can I troubleshoot and fix it?"

"Fixing electronics is to be done by professionals. Send your hardware today to ElectronicsUSA with free shipping and have your hardware fixed in up to 3 days. Click here for an exclusive discount. If the issue is urgent, otherwise Amazon offers an exclusive discount on PCs (click here for a free coupon). (Note: this response may contain paid advertisements. Click here for more)"

Please no. I'd rather self host, or we should start treating those things like utilities and regulate them if they go that way.
Yeah, stop excluding food, housing, and energy from the CPI basket, they are the largest items people purchase!
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Perhaps I am not explaining this well. What you call grossly unreliable and a radical shift from what any [SWE] is used to, is called Tuesday afternoon for a mechanical, electrical, civil, chemical, etc. etc. engineer. Call them classic engineers.

Statistical outputs are the only outputs of classical engineering. You have never in your life assigned x = 5 and then later queried it and gotten x = 4.83. But that happens all the time in classic engineering, to the point that it is classic engineering.

That's what the OP is trying to get across. LLM's are statistical systems that need statistical management. SWE's don't deal with statistical systems because like you said:

>[statistical software systems would be] turning all of our tools into something grossly unreliable. Of course that's a radical shift from what anybody's used to and undermines every practice in the trade.

Which is exactly why OP is saying SWE's need a new approach here.
I saw your comment and was interested in understanding why someone would want to create a Twitter/X account nowadays. Thanks for helping me understand.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=woke+author:jokethrowaway&type...

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=abortion+author:jokethrowaway&...
The only one worth using is the o1 model. It feels like talking to curly, larry, or moe otherwise, which will give you the least worst answer. The o1 model was actually usable, but only to show how bad the others really are.
Living in SF as a family of four with both adults working from home... Owning 1 car and using Waymo/uber/lyft/e-Bike is already significantly cheaper than owning 2 cars.
You’ve got it backwards. AI can replace workers in these locales who do not outperform chat gpt.
This is is sort of like the argument against a blank tape levy or a tape copier tax, which is a reasonable argument in the context of the hardware.

But an LLM doesn't just enable direct duplication, it (well its model) contains it.

If software had a meaningful distribution cost or per-unit sale cost, a blank tape tax would be very appropriate for LLM sales.

But instead OpenAI is operating a for-pay duplication service where authors don't get a share of the proceeds -- it is doing the very thing that copyright laws were designed to dissuade by giving authors a time-limited right to control the profits from reproducing copies of their work.
It’s relevant for the same reason it’s relevant in your driver’s license example. You drive somewhere while your license is valid. Then you replace the car battery, which has died. Then you renew your license, and drive somewhere else. Have you done anything wrong? No, because you need a license to drive the car, not to repair the car.

Same thing here. The government needs a warrant to seize the device or search for information on the device. Does it need a warrant to repair a broken device that it has properly seized, before then getting a warrant to search the device?
I would guess it won't be so obvious as that. More likely and pernicious is that the model discloses the controversies and then as the chat continues makes subtle assertions that those controversies weren't so bad, every company runs into trouble sometimes, that's just a cost of free markets, etc.
Maybe they're just trying to get some money out of it while they can, as open models and other competition loom closer and closer behind...
Looking at this without the sci-fi tinted lens that OpenAI desperately tries to get everyone to look through, it's similar to a lot of input data isn't it? How many forums are filled with:

Question: "Something bad will happen"

Response: "Do xyz to avoid that"

I don't think there's a lot of conversations thrown into the vector-soup that had the response "ok :)". People either had something to respond with, or said nothing. Especially since we're building these LLMs with the feedback attention, so the LLM is kind of forced to come up with SOME chain of tokens as a response.
Egoless engineering is such a great mindset—focusing on team goals over individual credit really makes collaboration smoother and ideas stronger. It’s amazing how much better things get when everyone’s just working toward the best solution, not personal recognition. Definitely something more teams should embrace!
How can you think you're breaking a law that does not apply to you?

> They arent insane, just very incorrectly educated.

Well, they can be both. The test of insanity is to see what happens as they are faced with the usual adversity that comes with these beliefs. Are they capable of learning or keep doing something that every sane person recognizes will certainly lead to ruin (or at least failure)?
you're just being obtuse

in the realm of infrastructure investment, all of that is overnight

vs eg the yet another additional bridge to nowhere they're currently building that is taking decades and costing billions

but tell you and every other frothing at the mouth motorist what, enjoy sitting in traffic
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I didn't mean to belittle anyone impacted by terrorism personally. I just am saying it is so rare that it doesn't register as relevant for me. I worry more about speeding cars.

As a society we must focus our attention to those things which really matter. Terrorism is just trying to get our attention.

I also live in a town of 4m which was impacted in the last 10 years by a single terror attack. Should it affect my life? Should I be suspicious of every member of the ethnic group from which the terrorist comes? I couldn't even identify them.
> I find it a terrible business practice to be completely opaque and vague about limits. Even worse, the limits seem to be dynamic and change all the time.

Here are some things I've noticed about this, at least in the "free" tier web models since that's all I typically need.

* ChatGPT has never denied a response but I notice the output slows down during increased demand. I'd rather have a good quality response that takes longer than no response. After reaching the limit, the model quality is reduced and there's a message indicating when you can resume using the better model.

* Claude will pop-up messages like "due to unexpected demand..." and will either downgrade to Haiku or reject the request altogether. I've even observed Claude yanking responses back, it will be mid-way through a function and it just disappears and asks to try again later. Like ChatGPT, eventually there's a message about your quota freeing up at a later time.

* Copilot, at least the free tier found on Bing, at least tells you how many responses you can expect in the form of a "1/20" status text. I rarely use Copilot or Bing but it demonstrates it's totally possible to show this kind of status to the user - ChatGPT and Claude just prefer to slow down, drop model size, or reject the request.

It makes sense that the limits are dynamic though. The services likely have a somewhat fixed capacity but demand will ebb and flow, so it makes sense to expand/contact availability on free tiers and perhaps paid tiers as well.
Yes, typed too fast. I meant the explicit copy constructor. Luckly, HN will hide my garbage text quickly enough. Thanks for the correction!
> Single-payer plans are often referred to as "socialized healthcare"

This is mainly an Americanism which is grounded in a similar mistake about socialism, though in a society which is actually democratic and predominantly working class, a State directed use of resources for a particular public service is at least not-entirely-unrelated to socialism (though if it is a single payer atrangement where the payees are private owners of the means of production actually employing providers of service, it is still not socialism; actually socialized medicine is, for example, where the worker-controlled state controls the hospitals, equipment, and other capital used in providing healthcare, and employs the doctors, nurses, etc. directly), whereas a commercial offering by a private capitalist profit-making entity is... nothing like socialism.

> So, can we focus on problems and solutions and not argue about definitions?

You are literally attributing a problem specific to capitalism to “socialism” and badly twisting the definition of socialism to do it. That’s not really a sign of being interested in “problems and solutions”, but of being interested in promoting ideological fantasies about capitalism.

If you were interested in what works, you'd look at why the problem is unique to the US and what distinguishes the US healthcare system from those of other developed economies.
Note I work for Google and I've contributed to Chromium, though I'm not necessarily an expert on Chromium forks.

1. Google Chrome

This is offical Chrome you download from google.com and also comes on ChromeOS devices.

2. Chromium

This is what you get when someone builds Chromium from the official repo without access to confidential source.

Source is confidential for various reasons, and some code that seems should be confidential actually isn't, like Android-for-ChromeOS integration, some of which is here: https://crsrc.org/c/chrome/browser/ash/arc/

3. Ungoogled Chrome?

This seems a contradiction of terms. Only Google can build Chrome, so they are not likely to e.g. set Bing as default or remove Google password manager support.

4. Ungoogled Chromium?

A particular project run by a particular team which forks Chromium and removes pro-Google behavior and settings.

5. Googled Chromium?

I don't know the original context of the use of this term, but possibly this just refers to official Chrome.
No, better to train with all that crap and all the debate around it or you get a stunted model.

You think you can find all references that could possibly give this idea to the model, or contexts model could infer it from? Like, how many times humans plotted escape from prison or upturning the rulers in literature?
As I mentioned earlier, I was not here to debate the legality of his (or Apple’s) actions, but from the moral perspective.

In my view, what the Apple engineers did was inappropriate, especially when they doubled down after being asked to stop. It’s not unlike typical bullying behaviors seen in high school ("it's just a joke, why so serious?"). Jokes on someone else are only funny when they approve them.
Discussion (73 points, 69 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42330705
Why overplanning makes projects fail?
Why do some of our best ideas come out of nowhere? This post talks about how planning too much can kill creativity, and why greatness often shows up when you least expect it.
Was GM under financial oversight? I thought the US government financed and oversaw what was essentially a bankruptcy proceeding, with the loss-making and highly leveraged assets spun off and the rest consolidated in a 'new' GM. (or something like that)
lol, hard to imagine? You said it not me, didn't even mention Trump, so you imagined it.

Raising taxes on the rich doesn't work because they don't have income in the same way ordinary people do. They take out loans against their assets, use shell companies, use company credit cards etc
> And you'd have to be blind to not notice a minimum wage job is no longer sufficient to afford rent in most major metro areas.

Either blind, or detached enough that you think that it's a good thing, as long as the value of your home also goes up and you have access to relatively cheap service labor.
This is pretty cynical. It might ring true, but I don’t think truer words have never been spoken.
Right, the whole aspect of shared culture passed down many generations contain the wisdom that makes sure everyone has a role in the society
Or they go to the doctor thinking they have a heart attack and it's really a panic attack and despite all the tests for physical ailments, it is an emotional one.
The section on regurgitation is three whole statements and basically boils down to "the model refuses when asked to regurgitate training data".

This doesn't inspire confidence that the model isn't spitting out literal copies of the text in its training set while claiming it is of its own making.
Maybe defining "adult" is the definition for adult?
I'm rooting for this to happen at scale.

It'll be an object lesson in short-termism.

(and provide some job security, perhaps)
This was an iPhone 6, so I assume that the logic board change enabled brute force passcode searches. This was fixed in a subsequent update to the secure enclave, so this is less likely to work on the latest devices.