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Heavily agree on the “going to and from the office”

I was just thinking about this recently as $company executives are sociopathically dangling RTO in our faces. The worst part is the commute by car.

I’m totally for WFH, but give me an office I can walk/bike to in a safe calm environment - not a bike lane next to 60 mph traffic - and I may just want to go into the office.

Furthermore, the company culture needs to be such that you can leave the office as necessary like we do in WFH. Do errands, take a break, etc. Cal Newport makes the point on his podcast that our work culture for creative jobs (anything that uses the brain primarily, I don’t know the right word) has not really changed from factory line physical in nature jobs.
The problem with deguggers is that they're scoped to one particular technology, and by the time I learn how to use it, I'm already in a new project, doing new things. Meanwhile print is almost universal.
> The title mentions "lies" but the main article doesn't use the word once.

> This is just someone angrily reacting to a frustrating situation, it's not a reasoned argument for the effectiveness of working from home.

I feel like the "fake positivity" and various arguments for supposedly better productivity or innovation (or even the claim that there is the sort of innovation that would better happen in person vs remotely, in a given environment) would fit the role of being described as lies.

At the same time, anyone calling for data is going to struggle to find an unbiased look at it: between corporations trying to equate hybrid work to a fully fledged alternative to being in the office all the time (and replace the idea of fully remote work), that hybrid model still having a certain amount of being present in person being set in stone (in a top down fashion) and in addition to some people just functioning better remotely or in office (the same as how some will thrive/be miserable with synchronous/asynchronous communication or the preference for various levels of social interaction), you'll struggle to find anything that is applicable across the board.

I think best anyone can do is not buy into others trying to make absolute claims one way or the other and just look at works best for them. I feel best working remotely and being in the office all the time would both take away some freedom from me and make me feel miserable. If anyone was trying to erase that with a plethora of claims that feel shallow or made up, then it'd surely be frustrating. And if that's the direction that the whole industry eventually goes, well, I guess I'll just be a somewhat more miserable employee then.

> An immature rant that doesn't make the point very well.

> This person is obviously frustrated by a much less understanding employer, but the article is written in such a childish way it's hard to be as sympathetic as it would if they were more carefully considered in their writing.

I disagree with both of these. The writing feels genuine and I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
Does working on the OpenBSD team require using OpenBSD on your daily desktop?
The July Revolution (1820 to 1830)
This is not a good article. It has pretty much no argument against RTO and is entirely one-sided, not even mentioning any of the real advantages of working in an office.

Hopefully by this point everyone understands that office working has significant upsides for some jobs/people, and only downsides for others. Can we please stop saying "it's good" or "it's bad". It's like arguing whether marmite tastes nice.

For me, as a lowly code monkey I could never work anywhere where going to the office was mandatory again. The advantages aren't worth the commute. I would imagine if I was in upper management I might be more tempted though. Zoom just can't match real life.
Yeah, it's still the same point of "if only they know what I know". And no need to shout, so have I.
I’m so disgusted by the entitlement of “founders” and business folks who have never coded, forcing the technical people who make their lives possible to suffer for a pointless commute.

It’s to the point that I realized the tech industry may not be for me. I don’t want to be a shill for Bezos or Musk or some other tasteless billionaire. I may opt to leave entirely.

I’ve started religiously studying for the LSAT. Maybe if I work hard, I can push to make America better so these insipid fucks cannot play with our lives.
ai hallucinated citations to non existent publications.

in this case, the ai should publish the cited hallucinated works on amazon to make it real.

not that it would help us, but the ai will have its bases covered.
working from home != working remotely

You should still have a seperation of spaces with your home and your work. If not, you focus less when working and relax less when chilling. It's doubly counterproductive.
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Sounds like a correct action .. good on you, enjoy the extra time in your life, it's the real value.
I’ve done essentially the same thing for years, working for small remote companies at rates below what my resume would justify.

There are labor force bargains to be had for companies that offer workers flexibility.
My commute is a 15 minute bike ride. 9/10 days it’s nice weather, I get some air and possibly some sunlight. Office isn’t too bad, and it’s nice to meet other adults. I don’t think I would enjoy it as much if I had a desk in a big, shared office space and a 45 minute bus ride.

Ironically those days that are so bad that I think that I almost shouldn’t try to bike, those are the days that the busses don’t run because the busses and more sensitive to the weather than my e-bike with studded tires.

Busses in Oslo don’t work if it’s raining a lot or if it’s snowing a lot. It’s really sad since it’s snows and rains quite a lot every year. Our locally public transport is more interested in trailing self-driving cars than testing out new tires :(
>These scams will continue until regulators get serious about putting people in jail for them.

Which is so much more likely under turmp.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42207209
Universities are basically farms these days. They harvest funding from the research councils. Similar working practices and economic factors!

Edit: I mean the research portion of course. The teaching part is more of a classic multi-level marketing scheme.
You won't see another mosquito - guaranteed!
I'd rather go to the gym than be in a car for the same effect.
FAANG is just Big Blue 2.0 nowadays. Not a place for smart people, a place for Jassholes.
BSDs bet on permissive license hoping companies would drop code on them. Turned out companies were either using linux or dumping abandoned code as GPL to strategically keep out of competitors.

BSD licenses were a thing before GPL lost the final battle, when linus accepted the tainted-kernel compromise. Now it's a relic of a bygone time, which show allegiance to a side on a war that no longer matters.
I did the same and for around 50% cut. Working from home allows me to spend more time with my kids (I get to have lunch with them and hear them play in the background), no toxic rush hour commute, and I get the comfort of my own space. I know there's a down side of not being able to collaborate as well with my team. But I put my wellbeing over that.

And to be honest, the pay cut - while significant - made no change in my daily life. But the peace of mind and serenity I have retained by WFH is invaluable.
Plaid is a financial technology company and many HNers are happy to hand over their account passwords to them for storage in cleartext.
Some people enjoy going to the office to get out of the house though. I agree some of the messaging about needing to RTO is illogical but going to an office for work can be beneficial to fighting loneliness. That shouldn’t be a reason to RTO however. I think if you don’t enjoy the office it’s time to find a remote job and that anti-return to office rhetoric doesn’t necessarily apply to every company.
I just want to jump in as a minority voice here. In case anybody is reading the other comments and feeling... alienated.

I refuse to accept on-call duties, full stop. If a job posting expects it, I don't apply. If a hiring manager says they have it, I do not accept the offer. If management starts talking about maybe implementing it, I protest. If it becomes enacted, I resign.

There is absolutely no situation in which I will ever participate in another on-call shift. I've been there, I've done it, now that chapter of my life is closed. Find some younger kid, pay them better than you paid me for the miserable intrusion on their life. I'm done.

Just wanted to be the voice who says what, hopefully, some of the more seasoned and battle-scarred readers here are thinking.
There’s what I view as a common misperception embedded in the article. RTO isn’t about empty real estate, or not mostly. Leases can be broken, everything is subject to negotiation. Sure, there’s a cost, but it could be paid.

It’s not about real estate, it’s about power. For a brief period, during the great resignation, executives felt the sting of at will employment, a weapon that was never meant to be used against them. RTO is about showing us all who is really in charge.
That's one of the ones who could program.
I had expected better arguments. Not convincing. Current rise in Blue sky users is due to election results. People will go back to Twitter.
You're probably from a privileged environment such as working in the US (probably in a top location) and probably from a top university or you were there at the right time to join a top company as it grew rapidly.

The first paragraph probably applies to 1-10% of developers worldwide...
We need those tubes from Futurama.
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You have “no doubt” that employers threaten to take away elevators?
Don't think I've seen the point about office work spreading disease in a blog post like this before. Do you have any examples of this?
I guess I don't really consider that an easy commute though I've done something along those lines off and on over the years. It's not bad like when I commuted about 90 minutes a few days a week. "Easy" for me is a 15-30 minute walk with maybe some mass transit mixed in there if the weather is bad.

And, yes, if I had an office to go into, I would do so some days if that were my option.
I'm doing that a lot at work actually because I have blogged extensively about Bazel before (and other related build topics) and many of those posts are coming handy to answer questions that people have at this "new" place. It has kinda become a meme. "Ah yeah, there is a post for that!"
The tech utopia fantasy is over
When I was looking for a job I was offered peanuts for a position requiring very specific knowledge. When I pointed this out, they said "well, if you want to earn a lot of money, go to company X".

I did. Now I'm exploring the limits of slacking off while getting a nice paycheck. I could aim higher, but I doubt my new place would allow me to slack off as much as this place does. After all, I have only one life, so I'd rather spend it doing things other than working, and I know that modern work is unlikely to bring deeper life satisfaction.
It uses reactphp event-loop library:

https://github.com/reactphp/event-loop

That library can use either select, libuv, libev or libevent if I'm not mistaken. Fibers are not used at this point, although other libraries have explored the idea (revoltphp).

If we're assuming the paper author installed a typical PHP, then it's using select for async I/O. It's the slowest implementation of the event loop. Using something like swoole would extract even more performance out of PHP for async io scenarios.
3-4 hours a day commuting? I confess I used to bike to the office and that could take about 3 hours/day, but I could cut it down to a 2 hour/day by switching to an ebike. I also like biking. On my "work from home" days I would aim for an hour and a half ride every morning.

I can't imagine being in a longer commute that I didn't like.
Sounding edgy doesn't really mask the fact you have no idea what you're talking about. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodd%E2%80%93Frank_Wall_Street... for example
> If you want to interact with your newtypes, you need to either unwrap it or reimplement each typeclass/trait

...or you could just e.g. implement Deref in Rust? In my experience that solves almost all use cases (with the edge case being when something wants to take ownership of the wrapped value, at which point I don't see the problem with unwrapping)
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I'm in the same vein. I enjoy being in the office a couple days a week - I feel like there's different types of focus needed for different tasks and sometimes the focus I need is the kind I get from being in a very structured environment with co-workers. Other times it's the kind I get from being in my own space in full control of my own surroundings.

But either way I hate commuting. Especially if I have to drive.
The current lack of collaboration between the banks makes it seem like they believe this too. The ones that had funds paid out already so they could avoid holding the bag. Whereas Evolve is the last one standing when the music stopped and is now taking the reputation hit.
This got flag killed when I linked directly to the labeler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42196313

HN is confusing sometimes.
Why can't you convert the wave into frequency domain and compare that?
Thanks for explaining this much more clearly than I did.
The Pythonisation of Java
I’m willing to wager that there is money actually missing.
Does jasshole mean something else than what I see on urban dictionary?
Oh, I wasn't sure if that was you :)

Thanks for the advice, I'm a little worried about breaking compatibility with compilers that don't support stdint. But if it's standard for C99 thing then sure.
It being legal doesn't stop it from being ableist.
So what? Even if it isn't some well-reasoned whitepaper, there's nothing wrong with venting a little. It's possible (desirable, even) to be sympathetic towards people who haven't written a thesis defending themselves. Often those are the people who deserve sympathy the most.

(I also disagree that the author doesn't give good arguments, sure it doesn't mention the exact word "lies" but a good chunk of the article is in the same embedding space cluster.)
Thanks for providing a case in point.
Not to be confused with the Golden Fleece Award (for which they prize money is disbursed beforehand)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Fleece_Award
I'm curious, how did you validate your idea:
-What strategies did you use?
-Have you already built an active community on social media?
It's ad hominem time, meaning you have no actual arguments. We can consider the discussion resolved.
I wish more devs had the gumption to refuse it.

I can understand on-call hours if you're a literal firefighter or paramedic who saves lives. I understand that, as a building superintendent, every once in a long while you have to run out and fix a burst pipe before property is destroyed. I don't understand why some of these tech companies have on-call responsibilities like there was some hazard to life or property.

They need five nines of availability to make sure they don't lose one cent of potential ad revenue? Good luck with that, I guess, but I'll be over here actually sleeping through the night.
This comment, to me, is heartwarming. The free market works! You valued something more than $$$ and so made adjustments to your employment (aka selling your labor).

I think that in-office work is good for certain situations, which is why onsites still make sense. And for folks newer in their career, onsite time is really important, based on my experience.

But if remote is more attracitve, over time companies that offer it will win in the talent marketplace.
> And to be honest, the pay cut - while significant - made no change in my daily life.

Yep. Speaking for myself, beyond a certain income threshold there has been no substantial quality of life improvement. My last promotion made it even easier to save for an even earlier retirement, and that's about it.

Early retirement is nice, and earlier retirement is even nicer, but given a choice between retiring when my kid is 20 and being home with him every day throughout his whole childhood, there's no contest. I'll happily delay retirement if that's the trade-off that's needed in order to be there while he's growing up.
Commutes can indeed be good, but you can get the same benefit with your own rituals. Currently, I shovel the snow in the morning and drink a hot chocolate to start the workday, and I take a ten-minute walk to end it. Same effect as a commute, but something I can control.
I keep a special laptop for all financial stuff. It is not that expensive and the inconvenience is limited. And on it I have CubesOS, but I guess OpenBSD would also be a good choice.
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I think he’s trying to replace his grad students so that he can solve even more interesting problems.
The idea of shining polarized light through gears made of Lucite to view the stress lines at the point of tooth contact is genius!
I think knowledge about universe will be mostly the same but streamlined. In our modern day science we have a lot of concepts that exist only because of the path we took to get to where we are now.

Most of these interpretations will be cut out once a better ways to proper undestanding is found. I imagine electrons shells, wave function collapse, pseudo-vectors, relativistic mass, xyz ... will go away quickly to be replaced with more suitable concepts previously (and still) held back by necessity of humans to be able to do some math with pen and paper.
I would agree with their sentiment. I don't know how common it would be, but it would certainly happen at least in some occasions.

When I was young, I worked in a call center in which the bathroom was taken away as a punishment for bad rates on multiple occasions, until someone called the Dept. of Labor over it.
What I mean here is, with print debugging, the setup is usually you have a run or test case that you start, spits out a bunch of text from the prints, and is complete in a second or two. With an interactive debugger, you often end up spending a while stepping around and through things and watching how data flows or changes. Then it can be a pain if you realize something was important after you stepped past it.

Granted, there's nothing really stopping you from using an interactive debugger with frequent short executions, but using print debugging seems to encourage it and interactive debuggers kind of discourage it.
It all boils down to the one and only techbro that you should like. All other techbros are false-prophets, and by proxy their short-text based social network is also bad.
> For animals, we are born with primitive causal models of our bodies we can recurse on to build models of the world in this sense. So as toddlers we learn perception by having an internal 3d model of our bodies -- so we can ascribe distances to our optical measures.

If you agree that we evolved such an internal model from some base system that had no such abilities or assumptions, then it follows that evolving programs to do such things is also possible. If you think the base system itself already had such abilities, then you have a bootstrapping problem.

> Almost no photographs acquire their state from a function X -> Y, because the sensor state is "radically uncontrolled" in a causal sense.

This seems like a bizarre claim to me. A camera is clearly capturing a 2D projection of a 3D world. We can also construct 3D structures from a set of 2D pictures, as we do this all of the time with photogrammetry.

It's also clear that we can infer "catness" and "dogness" of subjects despite the fact that these are not strictly defined categories, because we literally did this in our pre-genotyping scientific taxonomies which organized the animal kingdom based on morphology, and this was pretty accurate. It then follows that with enough 2D pictures, one could create a taxonomy of objects based on reconstructed 3D morphology with a high degree of statistical accuracy.

I think this demonstrates that your premise is incorrect that there is no "world" that can be modelled only from pictures. Current AI systems are probably only doing a subset of this, finding statistical correlations among morphological features, but that's still a world model IMO, if a bit anemic.
Anyone who left Twitter for political reasons is unlikely to return. The climate there has long since passed the tipping point.
I was once paged over thirty times in a span of 24 hours while working for a website that, in the grand scheme of things, could unilaterally improve life in the United States by shutting itself down.
Strain-wave gears are becoming popular in many areas including astronomy for sky-tracking telescope mounts, they're kind of odd but clever.

https://howtomechatronics.com/how-it-works/what-is-strain-wa...

If you search on YouTube there are a couple of good videos where people have 3D printed their own to demonstrate the principles
Theories are always in a sense speculative, as they build upon other theories and measurements. And as measurements aren't definitive, but just a standardized way of comparing results, theories are just an abstract framework how we have a shared understanding of the world around us.

Theories usually are just based on other theories and just create a theory from the current available data. The less data you have, the larger the possible space that your theory might lie in.

Hypotheses are usually things that rework theories because we have some new data that showed that our theories were inaccurate/false/invalid and builds a new framework that more accurately models the data and theories that we have.

Take this just with grain of salt, this is just a philosophical view of the meanings of the words as I understand them.
Bye-bye microplastics: new plastic is recyclable and ocean-degradable
I'm happy that you found something that works for you. But wouldn't it have been cheaper to move to a place closer to the office of your previous employer?
Okay and?
> The point is micromanagement and needing to justify the large office spaces they invested into.

Justifying office space is not a useful business strategy. I think it’s best to treat people you disagree with as reasonable and consider what their motivations could be. In this case I think it’s clear there is one big one—-productivity. It’s clear that some people (not everyone!) use remote work as a way to do minimal work (see r/overemployed). Moreover there are some benefits to in person collab in terms of being able to discuss things quickly and rely on people to be there.

And I say this as a remote worker who loves it and never wants to RTO. But I don’t assume the other side is acting in bad faith, I think there’s pros/cons to both. Mostly remote work is great, but not always. Sometimes my teammates randomly don’t respond to me on an urgent issue and I have no recourse. Sometimes they aren’t making progress on work I am counting on and I can’t tell if they are even working.