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Claude did the simple version by default but I asked it to support more than 1000 and it did it fine
They're trying to redefine "AGI" so it means something less than what you & I would think it means. That way it's possible for them to declare it as "achieved" and rake in the headlines.
Lawfare? This is literally how defamation works.

If someone said on the Internet said that rs999gti was a "tax-evading, pyramid-scheming, mullet-wearing, karaoke-ruining, ferret-hoarding, snake-oil-selling, cereal-with-water-eating, grammar-mangling, table-manner-less, engagement-ring-pawning, salad-dodging, traffic-cone-stealing, apology-dodger," and it wasn’t true, I think you’d probably like to sue them and take their money too.
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This is what Google did. Even if you technically don't manipulate the search results around sponsorships, you can devote more and more real estate to the sponsored results, and gradually make the distinction between sponsored and normal results less visually apparent.

Google search has essentially been eaten by its own ad-based funding model, but I'm sure they made a ton of money on it up to this point.
Time to start selling my "probabilistic syllable generators are not intelligence" t shirts
Ok, we've merged this thread into https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42134315, which has that link.
It's over. Once Ladybird is ready, Firefox will just be a thing of the past.
Didn't you tell to old coworker what happened? He would have probably looked into it.
I’m sure they are smart enough to know this, but the money is good and the koolaid is strong.

If it doesn’t lead to AGI, as an employee it’s not your problem.
This is one of the issues we're running into at my startup ApplyAll (automates job applications & the job search in general).

Our current best solution is to track when jobs get published/unpublished so that we can tell what's a repost (more likely to be a ghost job) vs a fresh job with high-intention to get the role filled.

I was talking to my co-founder this morning about collecting enough data so that we can analyze if it's even worth it for us to apply customers to re-posted jobs (there are legit reasons companies might do that) or if the hit rate is too low to bother (our kpi is interview-requests).
> Identity, authn and authn are hard.

It would be great if you or somebody else could complete the idea of hardness with a comparison. Am I wrong if I say that this kind of auth systems require formal methods to check them? I don't think that a 10-month timeline is linked to the hard problem.
I assume one was supposed to be "authz"
Every time I get asked to look at resumes, we get loads of ghost applicants. In the first days when the job listing is fresh, floods of resumes with identical formatting, all over-qualified, with similar sounding projects that read like buzzword ad-libs. Of course, they never call back.
I don’t think you intended this, but it made me chuckle… Your comment essentially boils down to “come from a privileged background and things will work out”.
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“Autocomplete General Intelligence”?
We've merged that thread hither since the current link has a bit more background.
Most AI code is kind of like that. It's sourced from demo quality examples and piecemeal paid work. The resulting code is focused on succinctly solving the problem in the prompt. Factoring and concerns external to making the demo work disappear first. Then any edge cases that might complicate the result get tossed.
What an excellent article!
There is a reason the archetypal scam artist is referred to as a ‘snake oil salesman’.
> So you cannot get charged arbitrary amount for home Internet

Comcast (mostly) disagrees, you have a 1.2 TB data cap and "After that, blocks of 50 GB will automatically be added to your account for an additional fee of $10 each plus tax." They do have a limit of $100 on these charges per month at least.
It can also be a union thing and not a problem exclusive to the public sector
> work for a small one and make it big. I can say from experience that turns out really well.

Survivor bias.

I worked for a smallish company. I was employee number 77. I got laid off about a year and a half later after sales stalled. We're now almost two years after that layoff, and now the company has a skeleton crew just keeping the lights on until the money runs out.
Jones has been wrong about multiple things. So has every media outlet especially since someone came down some escalators. I don't personally think someone should lose their entire business for being wrong. CNN has called all conservatives Nazis for years, and they are liars. Do you think CNN should be sued out of existence? Personally I think CNN has every right to lie. They've now done it so much that they self-destructed over it, and no one watches CNN because it's well KNOWN that they lie. All that's needed is more sunlight, not more politically motivate lawfare.
This is why I (thought I) prefaced my gripe with the context of date and documentation. Looking at modern docs, yeah, it absolutely looks like it’s trying to be a Freemium alternative to something like zScaler but on top of Wireguard (virtual secure network), but the OP’s article still makes me bristle because it demonstrates the lack of knowledge of the implications of that deployment model.

Case in point is that their grievance is about SMB to their NAS being routed over Tailscale despite being on the same network as the SMB endpoints. Ideally this is something that should’ve come up during the architecture phase of deployment: how should traffic be handled when both machines share the same network? When should Tailscale’s routing table prefer the local adapter over the Tailscale adapter? If Tailscale cannot be configured to advertise a specific link speed that accurately reflects network conditions, how can we apply policies to the endpoints to route traffic correctly?

I admittedly used this article as a personal soapbox to yell at (software) folks to get out of my lane (IT), and that was a fault of mine; I should’ve taken more time to articulate the pitfalls of these sorts of rapid deployments homelabs can facilitate, and share my expertise from my field with others instead of grandstanding. That’s on me.
>I worry overall that this could signal the complete end of new programming languages

Programming often involves creating new languages (or APIs) (like domain specific languages) on top of lower level languages (like the base programming language you use).

Future AIs should be able to learn new languages, else they would remain pretty limited.
It really hasn’t.
I don't really like Zuck all that much, he's made all kinds of horrifying comments over the years, yet this article confuses me. Also, this article itself seems like LLM content being produced in the high level fight among 1000 millionaires.

Bloomberg writes like its better to keep all the AI content in walled gardens that only the wealthy or elite can access in a downhill dump on the unaware.

How is it better to sell access than to just make it available to everybody?
> Whether self awareness is a requirement for AGI definitely gets more into the Philosophy department than the Computer Science department.

Depends on how you define “self awareness” but knowing that it doesn't know something instead of hallucinating a plausible-but-wrong is already self awareness of some kind. And it's both highly valuable and beyond current tech's capability.
You're halfway there. H1Bs should also require payment to the government of $250k/year. Style it as a fee or a tax or whatever.
"People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks"
> There is nothing like this anywhere else in society.

Though they are rare, they exist. The Osho cult comes to mind , Rajneeshpuram Commune became a self-sustained community that attracted thousands of followers and they worked for free. This is related to ideology when it aligns with what people want and it is sustainable, people have no problem offering their work for free. And of course someone comes along and takes advantage of it all.
It is a self-reinforcing pattern: the easier it is to generate code, the more code is generated. The more code is generated, the bigger the cost of maintenance is (and the relationship is super-linear).

So every time we generate the same boilerplate we really do copy/paste adding to maintenance costs.

We are amazed looking at the code generation capabilities of LLMs forgetting the goal is to have less code - not more.
So your secret to understanding code is: Abandon hope all ye who enter here?
> I get the vague impression that so far researchers haven’t found any advantage to such systems — anything you can do with a group of AI agents can be emulated with a single one. It’s like chaining up perceptrons hoping to get more expressive power for free.
Emergence happens when many elements interact in a system. Brains are literally a bunch of neurons in a complex network. Also research is already showing promising results of the performance of agent systems.
I think they are really good design. The stick out like a sore thumb (reading > writing) so you immediately know "this does something a little special and isn't typically called directly". Contrast that with some languages that just use up perfectly good names in the namespace for operators. Unless you know they are special you are left wondering.
Do you ever wonder why audio mixing panels have all those buttons and knobs instead of just one big slider labelled "volume"? It's because audio engineers benefit more from the complexity than they lose out from the time taken to learn it. It's easy to frame features as bad if you describe them as "creating complexity", but what you ignore is that the advanced user of a piece of software (i.e. anyone who uses it for work) will want to do very complex things with that software. A simpler interface is only achieved by making assumptions about how people will use the product, and these assumptions often cause issues for people.

> It's a backwards development workflow from the instant feedback of wysiwyg

No it isn't. I've already explained this in my original comment, and you've provided little rebuttal here. What is the value of instant feedback? As far as writing documents, there is none. That's because the people who write documents are interested in the text, which they get instant feedback on in their text editor. They don't really care how it looks while they are in the process of writing it. Instant feedback may be useful if you are interested in styling a document, but usually style sheets are prepared once and reused many times. Documents are not like computer programs, you typically write the entire thing out then compile it once or maybe twice to fix typos in command names. Even if you think instant feedback is intensely valuable, there is no reason you can't have it in the case of LaTeX (or LaTeX adjacent) documents. Simply design your document editing software with two windows, the one on the left shows the textual source, and the one on the right shows the compiled document. These can be kept in sync in real time.
There is a difference between "this code does things in ways I don't like" and "this code does things in ways nobody likes"
You could say that Free software is built on a different set of assumptions:

- Money is not all that matters
- People will write software for themselves and their friends, and will not deny it to the public out of spite/greed. Companies might, but licensing can mitigate this.
- Commercial interests might game some of the process, but not its core
- Support and security is my responsibilty, your responsibility, everyone's responsibility
- Building useful and viable software is sometimes fun, sometimes necessary, sometimes profitable
- Most software people use should and will eventually be Free - lire and gratis
There's almost nothing unique about HN as a tech news site these days. Sure you occasionally get a deep SME on the occasional deeply technical article, but the comment gravity on this website at this point is largely centered around tech-adjacent topics like this (business practices, regulations, legal action, social implications of tech.)

At this point the only thing that makes HN different from another subreddit or X or Bluesky is that the userbase values privacy highly, hates advertising, has an affinity for open software, and some other largely cultural values. If you're still using HN as a generic "high discussion quality tech news site" I think it's time to change that expectation. If you want to ask a site whose culture has evolved to hate advertising why they hate advertising, it's sort of like going to a watermelon-haters club and asking them why they hate watermelons so much.
Indeed - it's full of pedal tones, and slash chords. love it, love it.
You've certainly delved into the topic. I believe that if society accepts alcohol, then gambling should be allowed. Why is one allowed and the other not? I often gamble myself and am very interested in it. I recently read about Gcash at https://philippinescasinos.ph/gcash/ and this is exactly how I like to spend my free time. Why can't I do this? Why should anyone forbid me anything!?
Should be interesting going forward once the Trump administration takes over. I'd imagine they aren't going to be happy with all of anti-American tech fines being levied.
I've had the same experience, and I've reasoned it as follows:

It's very difficult to be a woman in Computer Science. CompSci is uniquely awful for women. Like other STEM, it's overrun by men, so you get all the subtle discrimination of that. But CompSci men also tend to be, for lack of a better word, asocial weirdos. Civil engineers have to work with people, CompSci people built up their skills in front of a screen.

All this means that the large majority of women are filtered out. The ones that remain are the ones most skilled with navigating tough situations, and who have a strong passion for engineering. A passion strong enough to wade through the downsides.

I also think they have to constantly prove themselves, which also builds up their skills.
It's easy to be snarky at ill-informed and hyperbolic takes, but it's also pretty clear that large multi-modal models trained with the data we already have, are going to eventually give us AGI.

IMO this will require not just much more expansive multi-modal training, but also novel architecture, specifically, recurrent approaches; plus a well-known set of capabilities most systems don't currently have, e.g. the integration of short-term memory (context window if you like) into long-term "memory", either episodic or otherwise.

But these are as we say mere matters of engineering.
100% hear this and I know as a developer at a big company I have no say over the business side of things but there's probably something to be said for we should all push for clear logical business processes that make sense. Take something like a complicated offering of subscriptions, it's bad for the customer, it's bad for sales people, it's bad for customer support, honestly it's probably even bad for marketing. Keep things simple. But I suppose those complexities ultimately probably allow for greater revenue as it would allow for greater extraction of dollars per customer e.g. people who met this criteria are willing to pay more so we'll have this niche plan but like I outlined above at what cost? Are you even coming out ahead in the long run?
Always cool to see new competitors pop up in a space! I was only commenting on the fact that the website, editor, templates, components, layout, etc. was nearly identical to imgsrc.io. Great work, but I just think you should differentiate yourself a bit.
That seems the most likely scenario to me.

Helping that along is that it's an obvious scenario to optimize, for all kinds of reasons. One of them being that it is a fairly good "middle of the road" test for integrating with such systems; not as trivial as "Let's feed '1 + 1' to a calculator" and nowhere near as complicated as "let's simulate an entire web page and pretend to click on a thing" or something.
Please, someone think of the Math reasoners.
"And, to further be clear, there is zero first amendment infringement when private corporations silence your voice."

Couldn't agree more!

If you don't like it, just go build your own multi-billion dollar private tech company funded also by taxpayer money.
It's an attention-grabbing term that took hold in pop culture and business. Certainly there is a subset of research around the subject of consciousness, but you are correct in saying that the majority of researchers in the field are not pursuing self-awareness and will be very blunt in saying that. If you step back a bit and say something like "human-like, logical reasoning", that's something you may find alignment with though. A general purpose logical reasoning engine does not necessarily need to be self-aware. The word "Intelligent" has stuck around because one of the core characteristics of this suite of technologies is that a sort of "understanding" emergently develops within these networks, sometimes in quite a startling fashion (due to the phenomenon of adding more data/compute at first seemingly leading to overfitting, but then suddenly breaking through plateaus into more robust, general purpose understanding of the underlying relationships that drive the system it is analyzing.)

Is that "intelligent" or "understanding"? It's probably close enough for pop science, and regardless, it looks good in headlines and sales pitches so why fight it?
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I had this also.

Making the account seemed problematic - there was flaws, one of which was on the face of it fatal, in the sign up process, which I was able to work around. It was a lot of work.

Support were worse than useless. Not contacting them would have saved time and frustration and had the same outcome as far as problem solving was concerned.

(Support talked past me. I don't think they ever once read what I wrote, and they sent boilerplate replies - they were repeated every few replies - on a subject vaguely related to the matter in hand, but completely useless and irrelevant to the actual situation.)

Having made the account, handed over all the personal info, bam. Account not used, but supposedly violated T&C.

What I think it really is, is post-creation assessment, with a set of criteria by which MS ban accounts. So you go through all the hoops - all the time and effort - and it's a waste of time.

I can imagine MS not wanting to publish these criteria, to prevent them being circumvented, but I would guess the real players know them already. Normal people like you and me, we all get burned.

I avoid big companies these days. I find the experience invariably agonizing and invariably in the end a failure.
I wonder if attorneys have any liability at all. Granted, lawyers do not provide any guarantees, and I usually tend to be more forgiving of genuine fuckups, but this seems a bit too much. The very least you expect from a hired lawyer is not to single-handedly destroy all your defense.
> Basically nobody wins

Business wins.
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Then, once the spammers have blacklisted the Daisy numbers, cycle those spam-free numbers to their customers and start a new batch of Daisy numbers. This way, there is a constant flow of spammer free numbers being cycled into the pool. Of course, everyone and their dog wants your phone number, so you will have to be careful who you give it to if you want it to stay spam-free.
Codegen, contentgen, and driving existing products in human language (which you can largely bucket into interactive codegen)
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About capitalism and space exploration:

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Reads a little salacious at the start, apparently that's to put into sharp contrast the 'inner system' social norms with that of a 'roid-born person. No actual sex in the book; almost a romance but not all the meet-cutes and fake agony. Just real distress and mistreatment, from a society biased against vat-born 'artificial' humans.
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Drones have been around for a very long time. Longer than most of the people here, I bet.

What's changed is economics. Drones were initially incredibly expensive, but the price of electronics, motors, and batteries have come down and become smaller and lighter over time. Only fairly recently have those prices fallen to the point where normal people could afford them, and well-funded people could afford large quantities of them.
Am I correct to assume people are upvoting this as a possible explanation for the outcome of the US Presidential election?

I.e., if people think that they are in economic doldrums or decline, taking a risk seems better than the status quo?

Voting out the incumbent party seems popular during economic downturns (real or perceived) unless the party clearly inherited the economic crisis AND seems to be addressing the problem energetically (e.g., post-1929 FDR).
You seem to be anti-polymarket. I'm speculating that one or more of their competitors are behind the timing on this raid, and not offering any opinion on whether polymarket made a wise choice in not seeking regulation or whether or not they would also pull the same move on competitors.

IMO, the counters to my speculations would be that the raid was because they got too popular and the gov didn't want a million people starting up their own exchanges, or they reached a monetary tipping point the gov set to warrant a raid.
I'm already at a non-tech company. That's part of the problem. They say F U IT division since you're a cost center.
Please add more languages
Ah, that settles it. You forgot what you aren't everyone else.
Most People have knowledge handed to them. Very few are creators of new knowledge. Explore-Exploit tradeoff applies.
"Infinite Growth Forever," - that onion-y sign off made me laugh.
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This is laughable. Like, yes, free software is better and open source is a capitalist spin.

But these problems still impact free software. AWS can still exploit the labor of free software engineers and profit while not giving those devs any support.
So some time in the future, the Telcos will report, that 30%-50% of calls are Scammer AIs talking to Granny AIs
Explain what would make the two comparable.
I don't understand what's all the fuss about gambling?! Yes, it's somewhat bad, yes it's somewhat addictive but if you want to live in a liberal democracy you need to tolerate such things....like we tolerate alcohol and cigarettes for example. Imo gambling is not akin to hard drugs, that it should be per se illegal.

The irony is that let's say Poker lobbyists have been sabotaging online poker for years saying that it is gambling and addictive and now 15 years later, more and more states are making it legal. The similar thing happened with sports betting which was made legal in 2018.

Allow businesses to blossom and then regulate it, not vice versa.