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Few other "browsers" beat links (or links2 nogui), and they are not even "browsers": e.g., the original netcat, tcpclient and BSD's ftp with http support. No, curl is not on the list. It's dog slow.

No one needs to cater to my attention. Apparently I'm not today's end user. I'm for all intents and purposes a blind user. The web is not for me. I don't even start X11 if it's not necessary. I work with text. Graphics and multimedia are for recreation.

One of my favorite recent HN comments/stories was from Diego Basch. He described what happened at Inktomi, an early search engine that eventually was made all but obsolescent by Google.

In his story, he stated what he saw as one of the sure signs that Inktomi was being overtaken by Google. He said he saw that Inktomi engineers did not use Inktomi's search. They used Google.

Are complex browsers the way of the future? I find it easier to work on _operating systems_ than I do to work on today's "modern browsers". That is how complex (and therby insecure) the code has gotten. I would rather try to understand the code for ffmpeg or mplayer than I would for Chrome or Mozilla. But as I said, I'm not the "end user" to focus on.

Developers/engineers gotta eat. Do what works today. Focus on what you think "end users" are doing. Try to anticpate what they "want".

When I'm pondering "the next big thing" and what may work tomorrow to pay the bills, I will always remember Diego's story of the Inktomi engineers.
The big problem with Firefox updates for me, and this predates the rapid release BS, is that they occur when you launch Firefox, wasting your time precisely when you're in a hurry. If they just waited until you were idle and then updated in the background they'd be hugely better. (Extra points for figuring out if compatible versions of plugins are available yet first, downloading them too, etc.)
Although... to my great frustration, Chrome has made pretty big changes to their preferences pages over time.
I'd prefer a right to use the internet freely, rather than have a right to free internet. "Western" governments are rushing as we speak to catch up to the internet censorship of countries like China and Iran.
This isn't really 'catching up' in the way you say. The UN declaration of human rights already says "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.".

This move by the UN seems a deliberate point to ensure 'the internet' cannot be excluded from these bounds. I'm not sure the USA has yet been so explicit.

As a side point for educative purposes only - the US bill of rights was not the first to enshrine freedom of speech and press for a country - that was the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen (though both built on the English bill of rights, which enshrined freedom of speech for parliamentarians).
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Hi yall.

http://treasurehunter.daniellobato.me

At the beginning of this summer I started making this pet project in Clojure, an Amazon web crawler. It was supposed to crawl the top seller products every night and show them in a cool way. I had no freaking idea about Clojure and it turned out to be quite a complex task with no previous experience, so 4 weeks into this, I decided to give it a try with my language of choice (Ruby, I used Sinatra for routing basically) and I put this up in.. 1 day?
It only crawls the top selling categories that are shown on the bar, the rest of the items are pulled from the Amazon API on request. Last year I created a very successful android app that made me earn a good steady income (about $400/month), but in order to do so I spent like 2 weeks looking for the appropriate market where I had essentially no competition and a huge amount of users looking for something. Here I'm basically out with no idea about how to make people buy here instead of just going to Amazon.com.

So my question is, how would you guys make this be more compelling so people would actually go here instead of Amazon to look for stuff? SEO? Emailing people? New features? Less features?
No idea about how to sell this and I want to do this also as an exercise to learn how to bring customers.

PS: I'm already learning Clojure through "The joy of clojure" and I'm LOVING it.
Well that sucks :(

I've used Thunderbird exclusively for all of my IMAP accounts (8 of them) for years. I cache all my mail locally so I can get to it with or without an internet connection and if I'm on the road and haven't got my laptop with me, I can still get to all my mail via a web interface. It's the perfect setup.

I will be a very unhappy bunny if Thunderbird dies on the vine and all I'm left with is Outlook or Windows Mail (neither of which have decent IMAP support).

Damn you Mozilla!
You completely skipped over: your right ends where it collides with someones else right

This seems to be the most natural definition of rights. I can say whatever unless doing so prevents you from also speaking. Thus, I can't use even larger speakers to drown out what a protesters outside my factory are saying. But, I could use them to convey my message.
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I mentioned it on the post, but the solution to problem #2 in this post is to follow the instructions at http://is.gd/H1Ep2n (shortened because MSDN has ()s in URLs), mark your app as Win7 compatible and you'll avoid all shims, exception swallowing, etc etc.
Every time you label something, star something, move an email into a folder, mark as spam, or delete emails it would sync immediately and cause a little delay. This drove me insane as I was used to POP3's download once, interact with it instantly.
Not sure whether you were aware of this, but CCTV are a real network - it's China's state owned TV company, which also produces global and English language content - so saying you're from a global TV network is probably not that blink-worthy.
I think the dream needs to include fuel efficiency.
I've been using tablets since 1995 or so, and I can hardly write legibly, let alone draw. My motivation was realizing how much I preferred the trackpad on my PowerBook to a mouse, and the lack of any decent desktop trackpads at the time. So I tried the tablet, which worked even better!

One tip: try the various sizes of tablet, as tastes differ; some find the larger tablets tiring, others find the smaller tablets fidgety, and, in my own experience, display size also plays an important role (the "large" Intuos is perfect paired with a 27" display, for instance, while the "small" feels more natural paired with a MacBook Air; while you can compensate by restricting the active area on the tablet, I've never been a big fan of doing so, nor with spanning the tablet area across multiple displays).
I'd happily pay up to $80 for a robust, snappy, modern non-bloated email client that did IMAP very well. Preferably written in C or C# if it was for the Windows market or QT if it needed to be cross platform (I think half of Thunderbird's performance issues are due to it being written in XUL...)

Edit: I'd be happy if the developer of Sublime Text 2 decided to have a go at making a modern, cross-platform email client. Something tells me it would be exactly what I want.
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Americans probably don't go out in the evenings as much as Britons because they don't live in real communities. If you're young and single, and it's the weekend, there's the bar scene, but there's no good TV on weekends: most shows see their ratings plummet when they're put in the "Friday Night death slot". Once you've outgrown that, "going out" entails hauling your family of four out to a restaurant, which is an expensive and annoying proposition.
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Yep, this comment puts it best: (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/uta10/iama_founder_of_...)

You're advertising that you want to send humans to Mars by 2023 and you have NO idea how to do that. Your entire company is based on "wouldn't it be cool to go to Mars?" As a real entrepreneur building real things, this is like the new influx of business and marketting students (no offense to those that are in these fields) running around blabbering about these great ideas they have and all they need is an engineer to make it for them.
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Read Cringley's Accidental Millioniares book for lots of background on the "Software Architect" idea, particularly at Microsoft.
I knew turning away from Fed bashing to Internet freedom was too good to be true.
Because in the UK winter is usually around 11 and half a months. Give or take a few days.
Timing animations with sound really does make a huge difference. The whole experience seems fuller and more well rounded, and it's usually not that hard to do.

Parks and Recreation, the TV show from the creators of the American version of The Office, has an intro that demonstrates this quite well.

The first intro times the introduction of the title text to the first jingle in the song, and then the beats to the frame transitions, which feels playful and fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI7f4CgATiE

Then in Season 3, they rearranged the sequence to fit the new characters in, and the whole thing feels boring and out of sync:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTgIJdcIpj0

I literally wince every time I watch it. I've always wondered whether it was the same people that worked on it, and what the story behind it was.
> The thing is, even the ESR is only supported for about a year before being completely cut off in favour of a new ESR that has only been available for about 6-12 weeks at that point. There are some large businesses out there who run the same software foundation for a decade or more.

For software like that, a web browser is not the right platform. Web browsers view a shared space which constantly changes and gets updated with new APIs and deprecated APIs and so forth.

If you want decade-long stability, use a platform that is tightly controlled and gives guarantees of backwards compatibility, for example Java or .NET.
Prescriptively, I agree. But descriptively, the economy isn't rational, and I bet we will implement that bug again: arguably the most essential and accurate message on that page is "ultimate freedom"—flying cars, and normal cars, and planes have rarely been motivated by the goal of efficient or safe transportation. Practical, rational people ride the train (or the bus) and rowdy kids whose prefrontal cortex still hasn't fully developed love their off roaders and street racers. As far as the "spirit of driving" goes, letting your car (or flying car or plane) drive (or fly) itself is tantamount to putting it on tracks. This website, their product, and the marketing all indicate that the motivation is purely irrational: the perennial lust for freedom, not for practical transportation.
You can't do it with epub because they would just get converted to Mobi when it gets to Amazon. You might be able to do something with the new Mobi 8 format though: http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?docId=1000729511
Please try FF15 when it comes out on August 28. It has a fix that prevents 90%+ of leaks from add-ons. See http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2012/05/07/update-on-lea... for some details (and note that all the follow-on problems mentioned in that post have now been fixed).
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It's spelled "awful."
The first big post-FF4 improvements were in FF7, which was released in September last year. See http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2011/08/09/firefox-7-is-... for some details.

And things have improved quite a bit more since FF7.
The way I see it, there's three outcomes to a goal like this:

1. Humans never go to Mars

2. Humans eventually decide it's interesting enough to go to Mars out of curiosity and find a way to get there

3. Earth looks doomed, but there's a slim shot at saving humanity by sending some people to Mars

I'm kind of disappointed there isn't more interest in something like this. Let me ask you all something. If someone in 1960 told someone else "I bet we'll have a man on the moon before the decade is over", what do you think the reaction would be?

It's not a lack of capability that's keeping us from getting to Mars; it's that people just don't care enough.
Worms (C. elegans specifically) have specific well-documented responses to certain stimuli. You can apply those same stimuli to your simulated worm and see if it responds like a typical real worm.
On Mars, you're surrounded by easily processed carbon, oxygen, and nitrogen, and you have close to a 24-hour day/night cycle. Bring hydrogen with you, and you can quickly start producing air, water, fuel, and food. On the Moon, you're stuck having to import the full weight of all of the above.

Discovering feasibly concentrated pockets of ice in polar craters on the Moon would help, but still not with carbon or nitrogen, and whether any ice could be found in useful concentrations is an open question.

A Mars settlement could quickly become largely self-sustaining, without having to wait to be able to terraform first.
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why private methods?
I'd love to see the presentation. Will you please post it?
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I don't think any of the major web browsers do semantic versioning. Mozilla doesn't increase the major version number for every patch either - they increase it for every scheduled release (ie every 6 weeks). Patch releases (typically security fixes) do increment the patch number.
Definitely appears to be better coverage of the issue. ++ for you.
I think you've simultaneously missed and proved my point. You don't care for the tablet injunction so upholding the tablet can't have been the good thing you claim. It's a mixed result.

Neither here nor there... I have more sympathy for software patent defendants then design. If Samsung wants to gamble with their billion dollar product lines to see how close to Apple's shit the courts will allow them to get that's their prerogative. They knew exactly what they were doing just as Motorola and others knew exactly what they were doing by differentiating their products more clearly - protecting themselves from costly lawsuits for one.
Agree they should learn. Disagree that's why they're called "engineers". Plenty of engineers in various fields don't code.
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How long has it been since you tried Firefox? Its memory consumption has improved a lot recently. And FF15 will prevent the vast majority of add-on leaks (which was the biggest remaining problem).
I have about 1 GB of personal email, going back to 2003, on an IMAP server. Mail.app searches this basically instantly—I get results well under a second. At work I have well under 100 MB of mail going back about 3 years, and Thunderbird won't give me the first result for about 10 seconds. The idea that Mail.app can't keep up with Thunderbird is absurd. I'd take Mail.app any day over Thunderbird.

I'm saddened by Mozilla's decision, because though I like mutt, I unfortunately live in the current decade and work with humans who are prone to sending HTML email, and Thunderbird has been the best Linux option for a while. I hope the KMail or Sylpheed people gain some development effort, because either one could be really good if it just had a few more developers.
Since you mention OS X: I've been using Sparrow and I'm growing to really like it. It's the exact opposed of "bulky and poorly designed".
I was shopping for safes a while ago. It's pretty amazing how bad the low-end safes (gun safes, in particular) are -- 12-16ga steel with some concrete. You can open one (destructively) with a heavy ax or sledge in a few minutes. Even when the door is something semi-acceptable (1/4" steel plate), it's often the only part, with the body of the safe being much lighter.
You don't need a non-technical co-founder for these.
I too didn't understand this for quite some time.

"Extensions" are things like AdBlock Plus and NoScript. "Plug-ins" are things like Flash. "add-ons" is a term that covers both extensions and plug-ins. That's why the add-ons manager has tabs for both "extensions" and "plug-ins".

To confuse the issue, people very frequently use "add-on" when they really mean "extension".
I wonder how they would coordinate a large number of these flying objects, both in flight and while take off and landing. You know, large cities have millions of cars... It sounds really 'sci-fi' to imagine all those million cars flying :)
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When I was a kid, I read comics or heard jokes where the punchline was about everyones unanimous hatred for lawyers, I was always a bit confused.

But witnessing the last few yrs in the tech industry (in addition to politics and divorce law), it's become very apparent to me why thats the case.
> Does freedom of speech mean everyone should be able to demand access to a printing press?

Nah, that's freedom of the press. :P

(Aaand thinking about it, half the people who see this comment won't realize this, so:

That was a joke.)
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Is there any written statement by the UN about this?
Given Netflix's current market capital, that status update is worth approximately $800 million in market value. Most valuable status update ever?

($4.55 billion current market cap, at 18.06% price increase)
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This is all true, however Mail.app - which I was commenting about - is no better in this regard AFAIK.
[ disclaimer, I am a (barely) trained economist. ]

So goods have a higher perceived value based on the effort that went into them? That's probably true but I don't think that it really changes the fundamentals here. In economics, all value is perceived and supply and demand are part of the equation in every instance. If the reason dog whispering is so valuable is because it's a learned skill that I don't posses, then it's a lack of supply.

With regard to mobile apps, there is a supply of programmers with the skills to make mobile apps and this program, Parse, threatens to glut the supply of theses programmers by reducing the skills necessary to make mobile apps and this will devalue those skills in just the same way that if dog whispering were easy, it would also not be as valuable.

Now there are other effects which can lower and raise the value of something aside from supply and demand and you allude to perceived valuation in creative goods owing to perceived labor costs, and that definitely exists in certain social circles, but it's by no means universal. Otherwise, how would you explain the vast popularity of Thomas Kinkade reprints or Garfield? The people who consume this stuff generally stuff know that it's cheap to produce; they just don't care. Or why very lazy concept art often fetches a higher valuation than much more difficult classical artwork? Or why some people are willing to pirate a million dollar Hollywood movie but still pay for money for a much cheaper less labor intensive film to support and independent artist.

In other words, I might prefer labor intensive goods over cheaper equivalent goods, for the sake of novelty, moral values, economic signaling, or for many other reasons but I just as easily might not as fashions and priorities change. However, when perceived scarcity per-se makes something seem more valuable, that is literally a psychological effect of supply. Supply most definitely drives creative goods because otherwise copyright (whose whole purpose is to create artificial scarcity and reduce the supply to prop up the price of creative goods) would be a moot point.

With regard to apps, the value of an app depends both demand-side factors such as the actual utility, social factors, etc, including for some people the perceived labor cost in its production, as well as supply-side factors such as capital costs and labor costs. If I could make the app I needed in a matter of hours, having someone else make it for me might be worth nothing, or thousands depending on how I valued my time and what the app can accomplish for me.

"I do know that if we released a tool tomorrow that let you speak to your phone and tell it the 'feature' you wanted it to have, and some sort of thing went out and created that and dropped it on your phone. It would destroy the app ecosystem as we know it today."

Of course, remove scarcity and an economy ceases to be necessary. That's a much simpler explanation than the one you posit.
> the US bill of rights was not the first to enshrine freedom of speech

No, of course not. We all get our ideas from somewhere. Much of American law and concepts come from English common law. The English picked it up from the Romans and Germans. So on and so forth.

However, the US bill of rights is certainly the longest lasting. It is my understanding that the US constitution is the oldest constitution that is still in effect.
What are the chances that they will actually receive this?
But public policy priorities are very different than rights. A public policy priority can be modified or eliminated as circumstances dictate. In theory, anyway, a human right is absolute.

That's why people who campaign for positive rights make a grave error, IMO. It cheapens the entire concept.
So... who else figured out the expected value on-the-fly and realized the options were effectively the same? When in doubt, think in math. :-P
I didn't say it has problem searching, I said it has less options to do searches.
1. Actually understands the full extent of the business side.

You wouldn't partner with a coder who can't code and is learning on the job so why would a technical founder want to partner with a non-technical "business" cofounder who doesn't know anything, worse, think he does?

This includes actual knowledge on things like knowing how to actually acquire customers and said metrics, not just be able to recite shit you read off HN or some blogs. Actual experience...

2. Without knowing how to code, at least be extremely knowledgeable about technical topics. Steve Jobs probably couldn't code squat but he understands enough. That's all I need too.

3. Extremely fast learner and can break habits quick. This one almost every person I've met failed at. Very few actually have been able to do this and they are gems.
Exactly. A sufficiently advanced "flying car" should be able to simply take a destination entered via smartphone, generate a flight plan, file the plan electronically, ping a regional air traffic control server for takeoff clearance, and run a preflight self-diagnostic, all in a matter of minutes.
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And how exactly does the one process per tab of chrome address memory issues? Chrome is complete garbage for me after 30ish tabs. Talk about unresponsive...
Wait what? Sounds like you should hire me first and THEN I'll tell you my idea to make it fly.