skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'm not a huge fan of most of his recent output but Scott Alexander was spot on last week when he wrote as a caption to a screenshot of a Claude transcript: "Imagine trying to convince Isaac Asimov that you’re 100% certain the AI that wrote this has nothing resembling true intelligence, thought, or consciousness, and that it’s not even an interesting philosophical question" (https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/sakana-strawberry-and-scary...)

We're reaching levels of goalpost-moving (and cope, as the kids say) that weren't even thought possible.
Except Tesco lasagna.
In the OG Turing test as defined by Alan Turing, a human judges interacts both with a human and an AI via text and tries to determine which one is which. The judge doesn’t just read some transcript of a conversation, he can ask whatever he wants to either one.
*OP means shut down
...or he's just Palpatine who wants shitload of money regardless of future speculations, end of story.
I mean, there’s no need to dry up subsidies when the underlying product can just be deprecated without warning.
That one never made it to the front page because reasons. All that discussion was people reading the story elsewhere and going looking for the HN thread.
> I'll still say "octopuses", but I know I always want to say "octopii" instead. (And spell it that way too, because "octopi" feels like it would rhyme with "canopy".)

There's a restaurant near here called Octapas.
The "Five for the Future" page is still up. Wayback machine shows that the contributor/hours numbers seem to have been revised downwards last week, possibly suggesting that WP Engine contributes less than it used to (or that Matt noticed and decided to give it a more conservative estimate), but also meaning the figures there now should be up-to-date and that WP Engine does still currently sponsor at least 11 contributors.

WP Engine was listed as sponsor for WordCamp Europe 2024[0], which was in June, and ran DE{CODE} back in March. So they seem at least relatively recent on events.

[0]: https://europe.wordcamp.org/2024/sponsor/wp-engine/
Eat them after they reproduced then, they only do that once in their life.
I read this over and over again, and I'm not sure I believe it.

Or maybe the correct wording for my own case is that I'm too skeptical/cynical to fall for something.

But it could be smarts too, because I enjoy learning about scams.
https://fortune.com/2024/09/25/sam-altman-psychedelic-experi...
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Non-profits are tax-exempt, that's why they're carefully[1] regulated.

1: In principle; in practice, well, we'll see with this one!
Can anybody explain how this actually works? What happens to all of the non-profit's assets? They can't just give it away for investors to own.

The non-profit could maybe sell its assets to investors, but then what would it do with the money?

I'm sure OpenAI has an explanation, but I really want to hear more details. In the most simple analysis of "non-profit becomes for-profit", there's really no way to square it other than non-profit assets (generated through donations) just being handed to somebody for private ownership.
edit: found the flickr link - https://code.flickr.net/2014/10/20/introducing-flickr-park-o...
Incidentally, that's a feature of Islamic law, and where the concept of blood money comes into picture. Which also means that you might be able to get away with murder, if you're rich enough.
Fair point.

On looking at it again, I think the reporter and/or editor have introduced unnecessarily teleological language. The researchers themselves describe the octopus behavior as though it is a matter of herding the fish - presumably, I suppose, to where it feels there are more prey to be found.
The promise of communism is that the worker owns the means of production, the worker, not the goverment. If the goverment owns your means of production, it's just a corpo disguissed as a country.
If I'm to believe a friend, who'se a family doctor, this is exactly what happens.

Especially since corona. And not a tiny minority, but a big group.

He told me that a few decades ago, there were the occasional homeopathic or other "nutcases". But that today this is common.

What I've read about this, it's a global trend, in a fly-wheel (feedback-loop) effect with mostly populism. Populism feeds distrust in authorities like lawyers, doctors, journalists. And distrust in authorities feeds populism.
Cloudflare joins OpenNext
Why are colorings so well studied?
The bugfixes you said are not really something fixed by Phobos, IIRC those can be fixed using INI editing.

Without modifying the game some occassional bugfixes are applied anyways. Among those are elevation overshooting bugfix (not very visible ingame because of artillery not using arcing projectiles in vanilla), some units "dying" multiple times because of damage applied to them during dying, maybe some else.

This is like 2% of Phobos though. As said, this is mostly a tool for modding, so to use most features you need to modify the game's INI files.
Hacking Kia: Remotely controlling cars with just a license plate
It’s a nice cosplay truck but it looks like it has no drone protection provisions. Great for the last war.
This whole thing is built on lies!
Well their chatbot helped me write a tabbed RDS manager with saved credentials and hosts in .NET last night in about 4 hours. I've never touched .NET in my life. It's probably going to save me 30 minutes per day. Pretty good for a chat bot.
I explain how Rust missed the mark in [1].

[1]: https://gavinhoward.com/2024/05/what-rust-got-wrong-on-forma...
I've only read Michael Lewis's "Liars Poker" which I enjoyed, but perhaps that sort of treatment of OpenAI would make it into more of a drama (which also seems to be somewhat true) and gloss over what the key players were really thinking which is what would really be interesting.
It's easier to write RFCs than to implement them, and there are more people who can write RFCs. At any popularity level, you have more of the former. Therefore, an RFC queue will always look like a graveyard of good ideas, even if 100% of the queued ideas are being accepted and eventually worked on, simply due to the in/out differential rate.

If you want an edge over the people who are writing RFCs, don't write an RFC. Write a complete, production-ready implementation of your idea, with documentation and test cases, which can be cleanly merged into the tree.
> These students paid real money to voluntarily attend an undergraduate ethics and technology course

Did they really? I'm pretty sure mine was required and most of us didn't really care about it. We were paying for the other classes, not that one.
The US has CFPB which just survived the Supreme Court. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-backs-consume...
This appears to be more prone to abuse than Wikipedia, perhaps because the encyclopedia topic attracts the "right" kind of nerds.

I've been thinking on an off how to identify and label sub-areas of cities
automatically in meaningful ways, and how to compute/extract from text useful sets of attributes to describe them.

If this Website was less prone to trolls, its data generated could be used to train and evaluate machine learning models for that task.

B2B: Where would you open your office in order to be close to your customers?

C: Where to find the nearest pizza?

C2C: Where to rent an affordable room close to a university?
exactly.

If that's how it works, why wouldn't you start every startup as a non-profit?

Investment is tax deductible, no tax on profits...

Then turn it into a for-profit if/when it becomes successful!
I've seen math PhDs mess up addition and subtraction on a whiteboard, though.

Beating the 99th percentile human at any subject should not be difficult when the LLM training is equivalent to living thousands of lifetimes spent reading and nearly memorizing every book ever written on every university subject.

The fact that it only just barely beats humans feels hollow to me.

For those who've seen it, imagine if at end of Groundhog Day everyone in the crowd went, "Wow, he's slightly better than average at piano!"
Great to see this finally live. So much to do though, hoping for some help from the community
Stop connecting vehicles to the internet pls & thanks
> There is nothing to do really,

Nothing to do? It's a sculpture park. Surely the something to do is to appreciate the art?

At the opposite end of the world is Frogner Park, Oslo, home to Vigeland's sculptures. Also nothing to do except appreciate the art along with quite a few Japanese people who travel to Oslo do just that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogner_Park
Children of Time!
Sigh… when this happens I often feel like I’m done talking to people on here, but then end up coming back anyways
Thanks so much for taking the time to respond
What are you referring to? Meta also released their latest gen AR/VR device the same day
Yep. I got as far as that line and closed the tab making a mental note to never use this product / company.
Simple String Blocks Your Web Scrapers [video]
OpenNext: Open-Source Next.js Adapters
context:

Cloudflare joins OpenNext to deploy Next.js apps to Workers: https://blog.cloudflare.com/builder-day-2024-announcements/#...
> - Comparing apples and oranges. For example, Box makes pinning trivial (you can just move in and out of Pin no problem), but oftentimes people new to Rust try to prematurely optimise and eliminate a single pointer lookup. If that's the case, were you really writing the same thing in JS and in Rust?

Pointer lookups are cheap-ish, but allocating can be extremely expensive if you do it everywhere. I've seen plenty of lazy, allocation & clone heavy rust code end up running much slower than the equivalent javascript. I assume for this reason.

But in this case, I couldn't get it working even when putting Box<> all over the place.

> What would happen in your JS implementation if two streams were awaited concurrently, one received a message, and the other had to be cancelled? What if one threw an exception? In Rust, you're forced to think about those things from the start. In JS, you're coding the happy path.

I implemented error handling in the javascript code. That was easy - since async generators in javascript support try-catch. Javascript doesn't support concurrent execution - so that problem doesn't exist there.

Did multithreading contribute to javascript being easier to write than rust? Who cares? I had a problem to solve, and javascript made that trivial. Rust made it a total nightmare.

I didn't know about the stream wrappers when I started coding this up. That was how I eventually found an the answer to this problem: I read that code then adapted their approach.

And by the way, have you read the code in those wrappers? Its wild how they glue manual Future implementations and async functions together (with some clever Boxes) to make it work. It blew my mind how complex this code needs to be in order for it to work at all.

> Over two years of writing embedded, web, and CLI rust I didn't have to write a raw future once.

I'm happy for you, and I wish I had the same experience. Streams are bread and butter for my work (CRDTs, distributed systems and collaborative editing). And at this rate? Proper support for streams in rust is probably a decade away.
The first clue that it was a scam were the words "Timeshare"
I'm do not want to talk about whole thing, I do not know what to think about that but:

> If companies can't use Open Source without the risk that the project could ban them from using it...

Isn't this more about infrastructure (wordpress.org)? All plugins are still downloadable and able to install via SFTP.
The non-profit will probably freeze the value of the assets accumulated so far, with new revenue going to the for-profit, to avoid the tax impact. Otherwise that'd be a great way to start companies, as non-profit and then after growth you flip the switch.
It's a bit like the tail wagging the pig though, since reality is probably more like a 1% (tail) share being bought for $1.5B, and that determining the "value" of the remaining 99% (the whole pig).
Yes? It is very common for people to have unqualified legal or medical opinions, and tell them straight to the professionals.
> Commenting about posting about war machines...

... goes against the guidelines and will often garner down votes.
NKRYPT Sculpture
Doctor might not be the best example. There are tons of Facebook groups out there treating all their diseases with crystals and a bit of WebMD. Had to sit an extra 20 minutes at the dentist just this week because some lady refused the XRay and was lecturing the staff and then the dentist about how they should be able to figure out her problem with just their eyes.
Nazi Germany definitely changed the world. They don't get "credit" for it because their goals were very different than the result and their methods were abhorrent, but their rise and fall is without a doubt one of the most significant events in world history.
I'm intrigued by your statement "horseback riding is more or less a hobby now". Are you implying that a ban on horse meat in the USA was originally intended to ensure an adequate supply of riding horses during the time when they were still widely used? All of the breeds that Wikipedia lists as bred for consumption are related to draught horses rather than riding horses, although for that matter the list doesn't include any American breeds at all.
RE: Rust's pacing

I've had a lot of talks with my management about that. For context, I'm on the Cargo team and have authored 11 RFCs (10 approved, 1 pending).

I feel like a lot of the pacing feels slow because:

- As the project matures, polishing whats there takes up a lot of effort

- Conversely, hitting local maximas where things are "just good enough" that individuals and companies don't feel the need to put effort to doing the last leg of work.

- Lack of coordinated teams (formerly Mozilla) doubling down on an idea to hash it out. Hopefully [Project Goals](https://rust-lang.github.io/rfcs/3614-project-goals.html) will help a little in this direction.

- As the project has grown, we've specialized a lot more, making it harder to develop a cross-team feature. It takes finesse to recruit someone from another team to help you finish out a cross-team feature. It also doesn't help we've not done a good job developing the cross-team communication channels to make up for this specialization. Again, Project Goals are trying to improve this. In-person conferences starting back up has also been a big help.

As for RFCs, we've been moving in the direction of choosing the level of process thats appropriate for a decision. Unsure how something will look? You just need approval from 2 members of the relevant team to start a nightly only experiment to flesh out the idea in preparation for an RFC. In Cargo, many decisions don't need wide input and are just team votes on an Issue. RFCs drag out when their isn't a someone from the team shepherding it through the process, the RFC covers too much and needs to be shrunk to better focus the conversation, too much is unknown and instead an experiment is needed, or its cross-team and you need to know how to navigate the process to get the vote done (we want to improve this). As for things being approved but not completed, thats a "we need more help" problem usually.
> IMHO the onus is on you to present your ideas in a way that makes them understandable for at least experts.

Agreed. And that's why I've pushed 13 revisions since the initial publication (https://github.com/breck7/breckyunits.com/commits/main/micro...) 2 days ago. I'm learning how to better explain this. I think this video is the best attempt yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mJh7TgICE

My suggestion to all in this thread who _feels_ there's something interesting here to record, using Loom or similar, your interactions with these ideas and tools.

I can then read your facial expressions and body language and understand much better how you are not understanding things and improve my explanations. Video is a highbandwidth form of communication. And it takes the exact same amount of time! Less time in fact, because you only need to record your interactions with the tool. You don't need to follow that up with written comments.
What misinformation does Tesla propagate
Just to clarify, you are saying 1b-quantized 405b is smarter than 70b unquantized?
Growing up in Ontario, a couple of my friends families had timeshares in Florida or Carolina. Are they pretty universally understood to be a bad investment?
Agree 100 percent. Perhaps the present generation doesn't know about the early days of Wordpress. Also, all this wording may be because Matt is very committed and so emotional about the protection of open source projects
What were all those open letter and "let's jump to Microsoft with Altman" shenanigans that the employees were carrying out then?
Are you claiming that WW2 didn't change the world?
I'm waiting for myself to one day muster the courage to order "dos expressis" at a restaurant in Italy. But I fear the repercussions.
Huh? I thought they already had for-profit and non-profit entities? Is the non-profit entity just going away (paywall)? gross.
Is this the first original meta product ?
I wonder what is the general principle that would allow to understand that timeshares are a bad investment without a prior knowledge. I don't think it's the matter of "just reading the contract and understanding" for multiple reasons:

1) Anything that involves predictions of future expenses and profits is not certain and depends heavily on your understanding of the domain, it's not a direct consequence of the contract itself. And salesmen will surely fill any gaps you have with the most optimistic assumptions.

2) The hardest problems aren't mentioned in the contract at all. E.g. a somewhat reasonable assumption is that if you don't like your timeshare you can sell quickly by lowering the price. So your losses are capped by the purchase price plus service charges in between -- that IS normally the case with purchased assets. However here you can't even sell it for $1 after buying it for $10000 and it's not immediately obvious. Another problem mentioned here in comments is that despite the fees being $200 per month in the contract real bills turned out to be closer to $2000, that's also hard to foresee.

I have some thoughts regarding the principles in such cases but really curious to know other ideas here.
There must be some process similar to carcinization that pushes Toyota hyluxes to transform into Technicals over time.
What about the situation where the first players got to scrape, then all the content companies realize what’s going on so they lock their data up behind paywalls?
The "approach" by the police was essentially an offer to either testify and get the reward money and have police drop some charges against her, or not testify and face the charges herself.
> There's almost never incontrovertible proof in a criminal trial

Having watched a few FBI interrogations and other true crime related videos there certainly are such proofs.

I have a few of these come to mind, like the dude who killed his ex, took the house surveillance cameras down after the facts but didn't know they were backed up on servers, he was caught with the cameras in his truck shortly after. Most of these publicly known cases have a ridiculously long trail of proofs actually

I'm not saying mistakes don't happen, they obviously do, but in many cases it's extremely easy to prove if someone's guilty or not.

> Even if the suspect is on camera confessing.

That's not enough in most countries
It is in fact "viri".
The IRS should get involved. This is a cut and dry case of embezzlement of 501c3 resources.
i’d love to read more about the artifact thing that failed because i don’t understand it
> Dismantling OpenAI is actually a business strategy for many other players now.

Which ones exactly?

NVIDIA is drinking sweet money from OpenAI.

Microsoft & Apple are in cahoots with it.

Meta/Facebook seems happy to compete with OpenAI on a fair playing field.

Anthropic lacks the resources.

Amazon doesn't seem to care.

Google is asleep.
There are creatures here on earth that would fit the bill if they evolved differently:

- monkey

- dry-land octopus

- eagle with four claws (perch on the back two and handle things with the front two)

- big raccoon (yikes!)

- big spider

- honey badger

- many lizards have hands

If any of these could be large enough and smart enough, they’d make a convincing alien. And these are based on Earth creatures - I’d expect a huge variety of much weirder things in a Star Trek universe.
Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets

Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them.

This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that.

You reminded me of something, please read this article:
https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br...

It is helpful for becoming negative to negative companies where they deserve it.

IG Farben had great technology (for that time) but needed change of name and half of century of good service so they have been removed from our memory as producers of Cyclone B. Now they are known as Bayer. And my neighbor (concentration camp survivor), while he was alive, wasn't buying Bayer products and he was quite vocal about it. Any of them, regardless of technology, different people, different products,... Guess why. Will you say he was negative?

Thats why FB was renamed and I am eagerly waiting what they will be like after 50 years. Until then, they will not be anywhere near my devices and even less filtering my sight.
Why would they have the FCC? Why would they have FDA? Why would people from industry end up sitting on each of these things eventually?

EDIT: oh and by the way i'm very for bigger government and more regulations to keep corpos in line. i'm hoping i'm wrong about all of this and we don't end up with corruption straight off the bat.
Is this - at a reasonable guess - what most believe OpenAI did with 4o?
I did this tutorial series to try to get some context/foundation in deep learning, and the first lesson was building the bird thing from this comic. It was really easy and fun. The whole course is great. Highly recommend for anyone who has a programming background and wants to get a solid intro to deep learning.

https://course.fast.ai/
Steve Jobs would just say "figure it out". Way less condescending because he isn't trying to offer a solution to something that is your domain of expertise, but it also says he doesn't care if you think it's not feasible right now. Think hard and find a creative way to make it feasible. This often needs to be said because people tend to jump to the conclusion that it is too hard before they take time to think about possible solutions.
A brief introduction to malware analysis