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His response reminds me a lot of what I have read in Valve's employee handbook (http://newcdn.flamehaus.com/Valve_Handbook_LowRes.pdf) in regards to their developer culture. By what I understand, Valve has established a self policing system in which every employee has complete autonomy over what they decide to work on or contribute to. Gabe Newell is emphatic about the flat hierarchy of Valve and its peer-review system that replaces the need for managers. I've struggled to understand why this has been successful for them as an influential video game company, but it appears Jobs' insight underlines a similar truth. Good developers are not only great problem solvers, but managers in themselves that comprehend the work needed to be done and are willing to work with those smarter than themselves to see it done.
In this instance, not covering yet another current event piece like this doesn't constitute a community 'losing its sense of humor'. This story has been here before, and humor has been present since the start of HN. That's not really a concern.
It's ironic you would make this post while at the same time participating in the addition of a bunch of noise to an otherwise pretty great thread.
This isn't a zero-sum game. More programmers equals more software projects in existence, better support for existing projects, more co-founders to choose from for your new startup, and an acceleration of human progress.
A Soviet design aesthetic, in my opinion (and I lived in and used products from that time), is a pathological design aesthetic in a planned economy where there is no functioning feedback loop from the consumer to the designer.

It leads to un-appealing design, that consumers don't like. Products are bought simply because there is not alternative (say as a consumer, you really hate the spoons and forks they have at the store, but they only make one model, so you buy what they have or you don't have anything to eat with).

Designers sort of work and train a vacuum. Products (and thus design decisions) never compete and never pass consumer acceptance and feedback. For example, I remember really funky looking cassette tape players, they were ugly and broke a lot. I remember TVs that looked crappy compared to the Western models. It isn't that they didn't work, they did, but their looks and the overall aesthetic was ugly. Cars (all 5 types of them) were ugly compared to Western cars.

I suppose a designer got a job at one of the state owned factories. That factory was told to produce x number of widgets. The designer got to work, showed the prototype to some people in the bureaucratic chain of command, and then x widgets were made and put on the shelves. That designer probably never got to hear how much their work sucked. They just got another order and so it went on and on.
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Key question: Are your peers better than you due to experience or talent? In other words have they also been doing this for a year or several years? If they've been doing it for several years even though they're the same age as you they aren't your peers. By the way I suggest you check out the 10,000 hour rule: http://www.gladwell.com/outliers/outliers_excerpt1.html
Not even a "yo, dude this site needs javascript to work" message. Graceful degra-what?
If you're going to defend Apple, may I suggest that you at least pick ground that is less shaky than slide-to-unlock?

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You mean the high-quality unbiased news we can get from CCTV?

China has a fairly opaque government that is not very sensitive to public opinion (and especially international opinion); that they are often painted as the bad guy has nothing to do with bias.
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I have seen people renting their cars overnight on airbnb :)
> Humanity has the ability to destroy all life on this planet many times over.

Yah, that isn't even remotely true. It's often said, but completely false.

And without competition there is no life. And competition often results in war.

Notice how companies that trounce all competition then go on to completely stagnate. It happens to humans too. Once you have nothing you need to fight for you don't bother doing anything.

Look what happens to every major artist once they no longer work - they have lots of money, and no need to work, so they destroy their life. Look at what happens to rich kids who got their money via inheritance, with no need to work for it. Or the prototypical story of a retiree that dies within a year.

It's is essential to human survival to always have to fight.

I know what you are thinking: Fight for good things, and stop war. But that isn't possible, you can't split human nature that way.

(Plants are the same way: Prune a plant and you will trigger massive growth.)
It would be great to see some discussion on what environment could one provide that would enable A players to thrive and reach their potential.

Pay them enough, give them an interesting problem, and lock them in a room with a bunch of other A players
I was amazed that Australia had only increased its inclusive wealth by 0.1% in the 1990-2008 period. Whatever we're doing, it has problems.
My experience is somewhat limited to places that probably don't have the best developers in the world, but I think one of the major things I've noticed in people that I would consider to be mediocre programmers is a lack of desire to understand how something works. They just want to get the thing they need to work, and often times this lack of desire to understand how something works extends to their own code. If you strive to understand how your own code works, you will be much more likely to notice the bugs as you think through the flow.

Early on when I was learning to program, I had a very strong curiosity that made me want to understand how everything works. I think if you have that natural curiosity, it is the easiest way to become a better programmer. As I've gotten older, though, that has waned. In response, I've tried to build habits of investigating things and trying to learn about them when I don't understand them. It is tempting to just use google to find the answer, or "shotgun" it by trying all kinds of random things before you get it to work, but learning how it works is always the best, and it will pay off later.

So, I guess my main point here is to just keep tinkering and reading and getting your head wrapped around all these things so that you understand them well. Then things will eventually become "easy" and intuitive.
Why is there an implied assumption that Russia and China have no ability to develop this stuff on their own?

And an even bigger question is why do Russia and China think it too. I've never heard of the US trying to steal technology at a national level - it wouldn't even occur to them.

So why do Russia and China do it? They have tons of engineers, there is no way that can't invent this stuff too.
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> The cracks are starting to show in this veneer of innocence, with Chris Dodd earlier this year directly threatening to withhold donations based on SOPA, unless the Obama administration toes the line [2].

I don't get why this is any more of a problem than money in politics in general. If you give money based on how much you support a politician, and they change their positions, and now you agree less, you don't give them money anymore.

What's the alternative?

"If you've ever given money to a politician, you have to keep doing so even if they change their minds about the issues you care about"?

"Politicians are legally forbidden from changing their mind, even in the face of cogent arguments and massive disagreement from their constituents"?

"Giving money and stopping giving money based on a politician's stances are fine but SSSHHHH don't talk about it!"?
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Design isn't about just being radical and experimental (which has a place). Good designers know when to use these features while obeying the over arching rule of design: Don't just include elements because you fancy them (or the idea of them) - They must work completely on their own merits.

As an experiment this is interesting, as a proposition it's very poor, it's design-poor.

This is subjective, but in my view it's both too abstract and unruly for microsoft and fails the continuity test. Unstructured logos need careful examination, this is more experimental than logical. Also Deutsche bank has a very similar logo which is ill-advised in general.

With regard to the new microsoft logo type this is visually imbalanced, particularly with the use of various clashing typographic styles. For example the x-height limited 'i' is at odds with the "ft" ligature which ascends above the x-height. Letter terminals are square, then the 't' on the end suddenly has two angled terminals which directly contradict the 'f' it's attached to. It doesn't come across as flair, it comes across as trying to add interest where there is none.

Also the type in general is poor, it's variously weighted strokes present a mottled "grey area" and the surrounding "white space" is unnatural to read.
> You mean the high-quality unbiased news we can get from CCTV?

No, I didn't mean that. I never mentioned such a thing... :\

> China has a fairly opaque government that is not very sensitive to public opinion (and especially international opinion); that they are often painted as the bad guy has nothing to do with bias.

I'm curious where you got this view from, from the varied news sources I've read, the Chinese govt is VERY sensitive to public opinion... hence why it runs 24 hour propaganda platforms like CCTV.

But regardless, is it 'bad' to be a non-democratic government? Why?

What is the 'bad guy' view based on, if not bias? (Of course in the context of how the U.S itself operates, given that was the basis of my comment).
Well to be honest, assuming that the facts are correct and reported as such, how exactly would you class China's behaviour in this matter?

I cannot see them doing anything in good faith on this one.
[Maybe I'm out of step with the recruiting community but are there people who are sitting around going "let's round up some really mediocre candidates?"]

There are a lot of people going "let's round up the cheapest candidates we can find".

Said cheap developers will eventually wind up costing the company more than they make back.
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All of the claims Apple is getting injunctions and import bans based on are nonsense like slide-to-unlock.

You know the patent that is bedeviling HTC? It goes back to the Power Macintosh help system (and was anticipated by Netscape Navigator 2.0b1, among other things, most likely). You may be able to convince yourself that that was important R&D that went into the iPhone. I'd say Apple went rummaging through the files to find garbage to throw against the legal system, hoping some might stick. So far, it looks like their bet has paid off.
Interesting.

However, more than filtering out the bad stuff I would love to see content highlighted by one of the people whose opinions I am more interested in.
What's even crazier to me is that there are statements that aren't self-referential that are both not true and not false at the same time. For instance the continuum hypothesis [1], or anything to do with the axiom of choice, like the trippy Banach-Tarski paradox [2].

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuum_hypothesis

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox
I feel hopeless at times that I'll never approach being 'A' status especially knowing that I have many peers my age that are already far and away better than me.

There are many people who learned to code starting age 4 or 5 who are having rings run round them by people who learned to code in their 20s or even 30s. Age and experience are only components in a much larger, more complex equation.

While I can't provide much advice on becoming an "A" player, in terms of your outlook, stay eager, stay positive, and stay curious. People quit or fall into ruts all of the time (let's see where many of the dot com era folks ended up..) and still being "in the game" counts for a lot over the years. Everyone has doubts or moments where they feel out of their depth.. you just gotta keep plugging on.
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Extremely impressive right off the bat. Signed up right after seeing the positive app reviews be fetched. But how do I sort the apps once I've added them? See here: http://kickfolio.com/epaga I'd like to have EmptyInbox be the one at the top.
I don't know about Twitter, but I think that the Facebook app uses a Webkit view; one time it was acting a bit funny and the stylesheet didn't load.
I like the way this explanation considers it a first class possibility that "math is a lot of bunk".
I can appreciate the guy who did this for the amount of work he put into it, but the actual design feels incredibly uninspired.

The space motif screams of a PBS or Discovery Channel special. Also, isn't the "Slate" already the name of an actual tablet?
A feature that I've wanted would be to add a link to hide articles you choose to ignore. That way when you come back to the site a the second, third, forth, Nth time of the day, you don't need to rescan the same links you have already looked at.
I'd like to have the instant profile but also have the ability to go to the user's hn profile.
There is no new here. You have a point here mvc need some upgrades. But it is not dead.

You simply divide controller into 2 parts.

1. Events
2. Operations

I too find event also can be think as a router.
The title is bad. This is not new. But a good useful practise.
> I've never heard of the US trying to steal technology at a national level - it wouldn't even occur to them.

What exactly is the CIA then? I'm pretty sure it occurs to them. Just because a) they aren't caught or b) it isn't reported. Doesn't mean it's not happening.

Even if you suspected your tech was more advanced, you would still steal your opponents in order to gauge where they were at.
If I'm a person who's willing to pay above face value for a ticket but didn't get in line fast enough, the scalpers provide tremendous value to me.
Nearly everyone who matters reads this site at least sometimes and might possibly come across a discussion about a 3 year old article.
no, it's just that when you exceed 2500 people, a bunch of special provisions come into play, like having to provide water, security, vending, etc. that clash with the self-reliance/gift-economy aspect of a burn.
It seems to me that, at worst, Google is saying you can't trust us or our partners... if you sue us. That doesn't seem at all surprising or unexpected.
Look at the story that was kicked around recently about the fired apple developer who snuck back in to complete his work. That's the way the best developers are. They are intensely passionate about their work, and very self-driven. You can't get them to stop working on projects they care about.
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> it used to be the case in hardware

I think it's fair to say that Woz was a 50:1 or 100:1 guy.

Jobs isn't saying A players are as common as straight-A students (it comes across that they are extraordinarily rare; it takes "incredible work" to find them), it's just that (as he plainly states), unlike in most other fields, instead of performing 30% better or twice as well, they can do x50 or x100 times as well.

Perhaps better examples are fields where output scales easily: e.g. one novelist can sell many more books than another. This performance is not related to not how quickly they type, but what they type. It reflects the old idea of "I'm sorry to write you such a long letter, I didn't have time to write a shorter one". The hard bit is in asking the right question, seeing the problem in the right way, redefining the problem - then, solving it is (comparatively) easy. It's about understanding what the problem actually is. Then, things can become radically simpler. Any sufficiently advanced understanding, if implemented as a technology, is indistinguishable from magic.

Programming dramatically rewards such understanding, because understanding can be realized so easily implemented in a working technology (i.e. a program).
mmm, it's a little hard to get excited when it's pretty much 99% junk. still, spose ebay started that way too.
So what do B and C developers do? Not everyone can be in the A tier.

Wouldn't a better strategy for society be to focus on extracting maximum value and output from people of all capabilities? Just pay less capable people less, and give them smaller responsibilities.
Hire the best programmers? Why didn't I think of that?
As someone who has only looked at Bitcoin from the outside, it nonetheless hits many of my personal interests: currency arbitrage, encryption, digital ventures, security, etc.

So, I'm interested in outcomes of Bitcoin. Ebay has all sorts of restrictions on what you can post and bid on, will a market emerge for (as others noted) OJ's book, transplant kidneys and illegal publications?

On a less lurid scale the site _has_ to do some serious work and thought around fraud, transactions and reputation in anonymous settings, work I'd like to take lessons from.
Know what bugs me? Sanctimonious meta-analysis of the content of HN. Guess we all have our bone to pick...
You're referring to diesel/fuel polishing; its practically mandatory at sites storing large quantities of diesel fuel for extended periods of time for consumption purposes.
>Kind of surprised to see www.amazon.com goes to DC for me (from SF), though. It's possible it's all in US-East, across all the AZ's, and just has localized sites like co.uk in other places.

Check where amazon.co.jp goes ;)
My immediate reaction as well. Simple, elegant, and lends itself well to bold colors.
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> Dropbox and Box are file syncing/backup services, and MegaUpload is a filesharing service. Both types have different legitimate use-cases.

What are you talking about? Here is a dropbox public link to a photo:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1rw9irkhyn400d/Boston%20City%20Fl...

Just as with megaupload, any person with that link is able to download that file. The paying customer is the person hosting the file, and just as with dropbox, anyone who only has a small volume of files doesn't have to pay anything.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people are using dropbox, google drive, and any number of other companies today for EXACTLY the kind of piracy that megaupload stands accused of. The main difference seems to be that those other companies are not as successful and try very hard to present a public face that emphasizes their other features, like file syncing.
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> If the scalpers didn't exist, the eventual ticket-holders would still be able to purchase from the original vendor.

A lot of them wouldn't, though. If the scalpers sell the tickets for, say, $500, then the people willing to pay $500 get tickets pretty reliably. If the scalpers didn't exist, those people would have to take a roll of the dice along with the many, many more people who are willing to pay $45. A lot of them wouldn't be able to see the show.
At the moment it sorted by most recent. Would love to have them jiggle like the home screen so you could move them around! Would be a fun bit of jQuery.
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Personally, I think promoting and legitimizing (from a technology company, not a non-practicing entity) the use of garbage software patents as a legal tool (and, even worse, an injunction-producing legal tool) has the potential to do far worse damage to the software industry in the long run.
Do you think it might be that there are fewer quality articles submitted? Or a greater number of stories submitted in general making it less likely that a story gains significant traction?

I have no opinion one way or the other. Just curious why you think the an algo change is the explanation?
Well it's not new and it won't be the last. But when the spam potentualy means extra income from datausage for the mobile telco's I do wonder how helpful they will be in stamping this out.
I know email can be forged and the aspect that there is a bot running on a mobile phone telling everybody its a android is something that don't prove it came from a android phone - could be a iPhone for what we know. Without the bot/spyware/eveil program being pointed at and caught in the act with wifi sniffers then there is no evidence that is tangable. You can send emails out that look like they come from a iPhone69 in the headers, don't mean that a iPhone69 exists.

But if people install no vetted application then they will get unvetted results.

Now if only the goverments realy stamped hard on SPAM, maybe if the music industry had a vested interest then it would soon get stamped out. Its a fine revenue that goverments could tap into and the public realy wont be complaining for once. Please goverments - go get hard on SPAM and levy huge fines and make us all happier.
I agree. The more that this sentiment gets institutionalized the less value it has. Statements without a clear counterargument are always bothersome. Would someone like to make the argument for hiring B developers to build a great product? Jobs is great, but this is exactly the kind of quoting that I find really boring and annoying.

As a side note, it looks like that video is also available on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nMD6sjAe8I
I wasn't trying to imply they are dim, I'm sure at Stanford they're brighter than the average students. My comment was more about CS degrees in general. I have talked to quite a few CS grads that were expecting more of a software engineering degree and were disappointed with what they thought was too much useless theory. I probably could have picked better examples to make my point.