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Sad but unsurprising. And there are quite a few points I would disagree with the author on:

1) Implying that Elop is not competent or responsible because he fired the team rather than "talking to them" is ridiculous. It is the only sensible option. Qt developers are not .Net developers and retraining so many at one time is impossible.

2) Finding developers for Nokia's strategy won't be a problem. There are lots of .Net developers around. And I am sure more than a few would be interested in the mobile space.

3) I fail to see what possible benefit Qt brings to Nokia's future strategy. They are unquestionably a Microsoft shop now. It is irrelevant how great Qt is as a technology.

4) The blame for Nokia's current woes does not lie with Elop and his current strategy. It lies with the previous one. And those employees need to start taking some responsibility for letting Nokia lose control of the industry. And it is not just CEO level it is product manager and engineer level.
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I wasn't speculating either direction about Turing's death, but what I said regarding Copeland's statement was correct.

Judging someone's state of mind by what they project externally is not an accurate approach. Taking a single psych course would inform you of that, so would knowing someone that has committed suicide without the cliche external signals.
Calling this a free speech issue is like saying that Reddit inhibits free speech by preventing you from posting personal information online. Not every act of asking you to change or not say something is a violation of free speech.
> 2) Finding developers for Nokia's strategy won't be a problem. There are lots of .Net developers around.

Just FWIW, Windows Phone 8 adds a native development option, so .Net is no longer the only game in that town.

(It follows that it may be possible to put Qt there, too, but that's not really what I was going for.)

> 3) I fail to see what possible benefit Qt brings to Nokia's future strategy. They are unquestionably a Microsoft shop now. It is irrelevant how great Qt is as a technology.

That's true, but to add the historical context: Until this round of layoffs, Nokia had several hundred people at their Ulm office work on a new Linux/Qt-based mobile operating system. It is now, with that project shut down, that they have no internal use case for the technology anymore.

Many of the workers at Ulm were genuinely surprised at this development.
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Or, someone hacked the account. Identity theft of a deceased person is more disturbing than of a live individual - just imagine how friends of that person would feel if the account would start broadcasting that its owner is still alive.
Sad to hear. :( I hope they will continue their work without payment.
It seems that Nokia funded a lot of the development behind QT. How is this going to affect the development of KDE?
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Not only do I entirely agree with this, but the title of the blog post makes it seems like he was acting less out of a concern for free speech and more out of a desire for attention. "Hey guys, look at me! I'm giving up money for free speech!"
I think the whole world will benefit from there being a single, standardized and widely recognized Bitcoin rather than a bunch of balkanized forks.

Bitcoin is what everyone knows and it's what has a shot at success. If the choices get muddied, I don't think anyone benefits.
Lots of maintainers were Nokia guys:
http://qt-project.org/wiki/Maintainers
No, not the Nazi's. Homophobia killed him.

It's easy to pretend that it's was the Nazi's and that the Nazi = "Speak German and worship Hitler", and so long as you don't do that, then you're OK and nothing you do or say can be linked to the end of Turing's life.

There is homophobia in many many cultures, all over the place. Even Great Britain.
I've thought a fair bit about this now and finally understand what point I was trying to make. Educating the poor is not enough because the rich are an integral part of the problem. Just as the poor are so because they lack education, so the rich hold deep prejudices against the poor because of their lack of education. It's just like psychotherapy on an individual scale - the problem is never limited to just the person in question. The problem is the whole family, the whole society, not just one aspect of it.

In other words, our entire society needs to be re-educated in order to solve this problem, not just the poor.

>we would probably start to see the poor creating their own solutions, and further changing our societal structure.

Indeed we would, but we would also see a great deal of resistance to it from the powers that be. This needs to be addressed with equal importance. What's the point of bringing people up when others will just try to push them down more? We need to bring them up and make space to accommodate them.
I see you consistently making posts that go against the local grain by glorifying the decisions of CEOs, defending ideas that most hackers attack, etc. What is your background that gives you this radically different perspective?
There are many misconceptions about anarchism. It's not about smashing things up or living in a state of chaos. It's merely a lack of hierarchy, where everyone is truly equal. It's simply about putting no man above another. We can still organise in order to get things done. We can still have customs about what's right and wrong. The only difference is that we have true equality. I don't see what's so scary about that. The system we have now - that's scary!
It's very sad, but after signing partnership with M$ what did they expect?
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I don't think this is all that sad. I think it is good to see that Nokia is focused on its new main strategy, and at least attempting to save itself.

Consider the alternative; continuing internal struggles between the Windows and Symbian/Qt teams, funding all sorts of frivolous projects while strapped for cash. With Windows Nokia has a chance of surviving (although it doesn't look all that brigh right now), but without focus and determination death is certain.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism_in_Africa

>One can say that's not what this discussion is about, i.e. it's the potential for equality, the right to be equal rather than the radical definition above, but then the discussion becomes muddled, how to measure inequality, economically (e.g. the Gini index), by asking people, etc. "Inequality" then becomes a very complicated word like "democracy" or "justice".

Personally, I think that it's very simple to define. We know from research that having more money, past the point of no longer being in poverty, does nothing significant to increase happiness. So, in my opinion, equality, in terms of money, is about nobody having to live in poverty and discomfort.

The democracy we are used to is Representative Democracy. When a few people hold all of the power, and we just get to vote for our dictators, what kind of democracy is that!? Personally, I think that Direct Democracy deserves more attention and experimentation. Some countries have been running it for years and their quality of life is among the best in the world.
Any chance the team will stick together and recreate Troll Tech? Kind of like the Ximian/Mono team formed Xamarin after being fired from Novel?
This is a complicated question, and at this time it's impossible to answer it without heading into the realm of speculation. I'm going to try anyway, to at least put some of the facts out there that many outside the direct community may not be aware of.

First of, the Qt Project, that is the sum of all contributors within Nokia and without and so also including KDE, is currently busy putting together the next major generation of the technology, Qt 5. But our ongoing 4.x release series is still based on Qt 4, which Nokia's developers have not been targeting for a while now. Instead, commercial support of Qt 4 has passed to Digia some time ago, and they have been putting out new point releases since. So in the short term, this will not affect upcoming releases of KDE's platform, workspaces and applications.

In the longer term, the loss of the Nokia-employed workforce would obviously hurt the Qt Project considerably. Hopefully, however, this loss would not actually be quite that complete: It's unclear at this point whether Nokia might try to sell Qt, which could preserve the workforce entirely in the best case scenario. Alternatively, many of the developers who spent much or all of their professional careers working and loving Qt would likely band together and go on in some way, or find new homes at any of the Qt-focussed software development consultancies out there, which might also band together with us and others in the community to form a new home for the project in Nokia's absence.

For the cynics and skeptics in the audience, it also always pays to remind everyone that for the worst case, the community does have a poison pill in place: http://www.kde.org/community/whatiskde/kdefreeqtfoundation.p...
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at the inquest, the coroner, Mr JAK Ferns declared: "In a man of his type, one never knows what his mental processes are going to do next." What he meant by "of this type" is unclear.

Oh please, we know exactly what the coroner meant by "of this type". He meant homosexuals. He (and many many other people in the medial and government at the time) thought homosexuality was a mental illness and very unnatural affliction.
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Very neat!

One could also do it with a random image:

wget http://quickimage.heroku.com/image/joker/80/60 -O- 2>/dev/null | icat -

(Assuming a high-speed low-latency connection otherwise terminal start-ups are slow.)
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Nope. If that was the case it wouldnt be worth much at all, considering the lack of business built around bitcoin. I think the value comes from the trust that people place in it and the huge hype that it got during the bubble.
There's little need, Qt bootstrapped a new community-lead process a few months back, the project is independent of Nokia already (and there is sufficient critical mass in the user base to keep the project alive).

As for major new development, well, what is lost is a matter of opinion. Already with Qt5 the focus is no longer on native widgets (it's vaguely shocking how the project's path while at Nokia has got so distorted and diverged from the story that made Qt a success).
Or you could fork a process that downloads the image you are showing on the next time and show the last downloaded one directly to the console. That way the terminal start up will stay fast and you will get a new image on each new terminal :)
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Did Nokia even made money from QT ? Because it seems to me it paid 700 devs (the article mentions 10000 !!! people laid off) + Accenture (for Symbian development) without really making any real money from this.
Distribution is free - but shouldn't the band be paid what they would have gotten with no record label in the way? That may mean songs on iTMS being 10p instead of 99p - don't creators of products you want deserve paying?
What can we learn from this list? First, it demonstrates that a broad group of people are comfortable enough with the bitcoin crypto to exit the traditional banking system and leave significant value on the blockchain for extended periods.

Erm no. Someone could have mined those BitCoins at the very start for very little effort. For example in 2010, someone offered 10,000 bitcoins if you bought them a pizza ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137 ). Bitcoins were worth very little then.

In the early days it was very easy to clock up huge amounts of bitcoins.
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What radically different perspective ?

It's common sense that Nokia was not going to have a use for Qt or anyone involved with it once they moved to a MS strategy. I would honestly love to know what is being communicated internally for Nokia employees to be surprised at this.
Well said. I can't but wonder how the system evolved: The workers build, the scientists study & discover, the engineers design and improve, and everything they produce is sold for X amount of money while they are being paid Y amount of money. X - Y = P (profit) which goes to the capital owners who can spend it on the goods produced by the others without much participation at the production effort. Also I find it amazing that after all the advancements, discoveries and increases of productivity, the working class has to work 8 hours a day for longer number of years then the previous generations. The retirement age only increased in the last 50 years. Why do we need to work more if today we produce more, faster and cheaper than few years ago.
So that's why Europe is stuck. It adopted a monetary system that works when the government controls the currency, and adopted it in a situation where governments cannot print money.

Minor nit: I believe they adopted the current monetary system in anticipation of future political union. Which was not unreasonable, extrapolating from the Franco-German steel and coal pact forward to the subsequent treaty system that created the EU -- but it got stalled when they diverted into expansion (from 12-17 states to 25+) instead of consolidation in the late 90s/early 00s.

And they'd still have been okay, in the short term, if the entire global economy hadn't caught a head-cold in 2007/08.
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LinkedIn API terms of use says :

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Does it mean that one cannot monetize applications created using linkedin api ??
But what about the tension between features (completeness of system? Or ability to reproduce any sound?) and robustness (lack of contradictions? No sounds that would cause its own destruction?)

The analogy seems to fit there, enough to make me smile anyway :)
I think it will be beneficial for Qt; for a few recent years Nokia is a sort of anti-Midas -- whatever they hold or touch turns into junk (Symbian buried, phone Meego wasted, computer Meego demolished...). Plus it is a chance for Qt to finally end with this commercial burden dangling since TrollTech.
6-8 years ago, yeah, that was happening more and more. There was an entire process in major processors for "no doc" loans. The rates would be a bit higher, but there was a market to sell those loans to. That market dried up pretty quickly, and 'no doc' loans are extremely hard to come by these days.
FWIW, Elop made public comments along the line of, roughly, "we're currently working on something that is going to make everything we're selling right now, including Lumia, irrelevant", which may serve as a basis for extrapolating what was being communicated internally, or at least how it was understood by some.
The answer by Redditor otherwiseyep is really, really good as a quick public forum answer.

Definitely worth reading for those of us five-year-old-equivalents in terms of knowledge of macroeconomics.
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While reading your first link, I could not help but hear someone in my head reading it like this: http://www.tomscott.com/life/

"...if you are unable to access your personal account because it is in a special memorialized state..."
To give context: http://techcrunch.com/2008/01/28/nokia-acquires-trolltech-fo...

4 1/2 years later, Nokia is pulling the trigger on it.

My question is this, if Trolltech wasn't part of Nokia's strategy anymore, why not just spin it out?

And to compare to an equivalent business, Novell tried to shutter down Mono, thankfully the people behind it forged a new company out of it, called Xamarin.

I keep seeing cases of companies being acquired, only to then be semi-destroyed or shut down later on. Sometimes you get the impression the the acquirers only want to buy others just to shut them down and stop them becoming a threat.

For example, look at what Google did to Jaiku, or Slide, or Dodgeball.

Why can they not follow the example of HP and Agilent? Agilent was spun out of HP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agilent_Technologies

I'm coming to the view that when you start up a business, if you care about what you've built more than you care about money, and what you've built is profitable, then you shouldn't sell to a big company, because chances are they will destroy it.
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This is unfortunate for what it means for future Qt development (which is uncertain).

I only used Qt briefly, but it was the only time I actually had fun programming in C++.
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> 4) The blame for Nokia's current woes does not lie with Elop and his current strategy. It lies with the previous one.

wrong. see http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2011/12/calcula...
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The title is incorrect -- the original was, "Leadership, Strategy and Qt". Nokia has not at this point fired the Qt team. They fired the folks in the Ulm office. Those are not the guys that formerly worked for Trolltech (in Oslo, Brisbane and Berlin). While there's naturally some uncertainty about what their futures will hold, the axe hasn't totally fallen yet.

Edit: To be clear, I my intent wasn't to question Mirko, but to point out that the title here was added on HN; it wasn't the title he used and I didn't read his post as saying the entire Qt team was fired.
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1: It doesn't feel like I'm playing a game as much as I'm clicking through menues. Make it more interactive, playful. Try to make the map a bigger part of the game, maybe having a flight-icon above the actual airport, and have a smaller "bubble" pop up with connecting flights, maybe try to display the target airport on the map as well.

2: Try to get coins to be a bigger part of the UI then it is. Actually, as joeld42 pointed out, the UI needs to be a tad more refined overall.

3: Achievements. Which you can share throughout the interwebs. Miles traveled are an excellent point system, make sure players can't cheat their way to lots of traveled miles, and use it to rank players.

4: If and where possible, add pictures to questions like BackPacker did.

Just my personal thoughts.
You are required to pay US taxes in USD which creates a huge and steady demand.
This is stomach turing. Sorry, had to inject a little humor because this is actually making me sad. The way he was treated by the authorities (seriously, chemical castration!?) is beyond hellish. I'm ashamed that I live in the country which perpetrated this. And it all happened just a lifetime ago.
That process is probably a lot harder than you think, if you haven't studied the biological sciences.

(Analogy: it's not like refactoring code in a high level language, it's like reverse-engineering a heap of spaghetti-coded self-modifying assembly written by a neural network and designed to run simultaneously on several different CPU architectures that have been glommed together in the same box. In other words, it's nightmarishly difficult.)

114 years might suffice to do it. Or to demonstrate that it's a very intractable problem (on the order of Fermat's last theorem) or to prove that it's impossible. Meanwhile, for those of us who are already pushing fifty (like me), it's probably already too late.
Let's be clear, though: Nokia also did a lot of good for Qt. They significantly grew the number of people paid to work on it, and by moving to the LGPL license they significantly grew the community.

They also turned it into a proper open source project. There was no public repository history under Trolltech. Nor did Qt under Trolltech have a working contribution process; now tens of thousands of contributions have flown into Qt from the outside. There's even review rights and write access for non-employees, and maintainers that are non-employees.

Qt today has a much better chance of surviving Nokia than it had a chance of surviving Trolltech back in the day.
The train is not labeled, so it is not possible; and they do not mention that the labeled set was split or used in validation -- it is just called "test".
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I recommend listening to the audio clip that accompanies the article as it includes the fact, omitted from the text, that while the police were able to smell cyanide in his lab days after his death, 50% of men are genetically unable to smell it at all. This is surely crucial.
This is actually my understanding as well, which is leaving me quite a bit confused about Mirko's post. I trust him, however, and he's currently attending the Qt Contributor Summit while I am not, so he may be more up-to-date. But the total number of Qt staff employed by Nokia is certainly above 100, too.
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Is this the common wisdom these days?
Experienced software developers who are good at C++/Qt can't learn themselves to use C#/.NET?
They have to be trained? And that's impossible to do?

If we are talking about full time employees - they should have been given the option to work with .NET if this is what they wanted.

Also - employees have to take responsibility for Nokia's previous strategy? Weren't you just talking about those employees like an easily replaceable cogs? Get rid of a few "C++/Qt"s and get a few new "C#/.NET" ones.

Regular employees are responsible for managing their own career not the company.

About Elop - his statement about the burning platform reminds me about the Léo Apoteker public announcement about dumping the PC division of HP. Even if we assume both decisions about new strategic direction were correct - the public announcements were not very helpful to say the least ...

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1) Implying that Elop is not competent or responsible because he fired the team rather than "talking to them" is ridiculous. It is the only sensible option. Qt developers are not .Net developers and retraining so many at one time is impossible.
2) Finding developers for Nokia's strategy won't be a problem. There are lots of .Net developers around. And I am sure more than a few would be interested in the mobile space.