skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
This comment is great but I feel we're also leaving out the "human element" that necessarily is part of these sorts of questions. Ultimately, we, as a people, don't want pedophiles, we don't want children abused, etc. These I feel are not controversial statements. However, allowing AI-generated CASM as a way to placate pedophiles does a few things:

Firstly, it normalizes this material, even to the tiniest degree you'd like to claim. If you bring something that was formerly illegal into the state of being legal, it becomes a part of our society. Weed is a fantastic example. It's on a great track to become a very casual drug of use in our society, and with each step forward along that path, it becomes less remarkable. When I was in high school, I was taught, by teachers and hired professionals, about the "dangers" of weed and other drugs. Now, I drive down the street and pass a couple of dispensaries selling that product and many derivatives of it, completely without drama. It is simply a thing that exists.

[And to not leave it merely implied, that's a GOOD thing.]

So, that being the case, are we as a society prepared to have a society and to live within one where something like AI-generated CASM is an accepted, to whatever degree, thing to have, sell, and create? Are we okay with that if it satiates pedophiles? Are we prepared to reckon with the consequences of that if it doesn't, and more children are harmed?

Secondly, I think we have to contend with the fact that now that this technology exists, it will continue to exist regardless of legality. This is one of the reasons I was so incredibly opposed to wide-spread and open-source AI in the first place, and at risk of sounding like "I told you so," one of the concerns I outlined many times is that this technology enables people to create... anything, at a near industrial scale, be that disinformation, be that spam, be that non-consensual pornography, be that CASM. I don't think a black box program that can be run on damn near any consumer PC that can create photorealistic renderings of anything you can describe in text is inherently, by virtue of it's being, a bad thing, but I do think it's something that we as a society are not ready for, and I was not alone in that thinking. But now it's here, and now we have to deal with it.
TikTok LLM
That whole site is a interesting read.
Countries like the US and China are not afraid to subsidize strategically important industries in regions with proven capabilities.
Meanwhile the EU likes to waste resources on failed hopeless regions.

The U.S. has a long history of subsidizing industries in so-called "hopeless" regions. For example, putting the FBI fingerprinting office in Clarksburg, West Virginia.

Doing things like that is how you keep "hopeless" regions from becoming even worse, and makes things better for the nation as a whole. You spend some money on jobs and opportunity, or you spend a lot more money on food subsidies and criminal justice.

Are you a European "Union," or not? If you want every region to fight for resources, then you'd might as well go back to feudal times.

Europeans on HN are always saying how it's the "civilized" continent. I don't see that in language like "hopeless zombieland."
> does no one not find programming fun anymore?

Author needs to get into Bret Victor. Has no idea how much more fun he could be having.

Programming is a step on the way to access to the state space of information. When we get to that stage, programming will seem like a maze of syntax, that has its own idiosyncrasies that force you into corners or regions in the state space, just like any DAW plugin or 3D tool, or any tool at all that exists.
Live near Kyle. Calling it a city is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

But yes, housing being built like crazy. I don't think you'll see anything else like it in the US.
Birdman (2014)

Michael Keaton at his best. Edward Norton's great too. Good visual style too - it's presented as one continuous shot.
So essentially what you are saying that because we couldn't catch the smart criminals who use e2e encrypted services we shouldn't catch the dumb ones either?
The six year old English took me more effort to read than it should. The point of language is to communicate. Write in a way that people can read.

But to the point of the post, yeah, I agree. The people using LLMs are just using it to compensate for a horrible toolkit. It doesn't help them think or break down problems that nobody has seen before. If it makes them quicker it's because they were using caveman-level tools before. I haven't typed every character in the code I produce for at least a decade at this point. Most of my time and effort is in thinking. But for braindead code monkeys, sure, anything will make you quicker.
I think you’re assuming your reference is the correct one. I can’t reason about the assembly language that the compiler spits out, the microcode in the CPU kernel or any of the electronics on the motherboard. That anyone can or not doesn’t change things in my opinion. It’s an arbitrary distinction to say _this_ abstraction is uniquely different in this very specific way.
We think of ourselves more intelligent than the generation before us, and more wise than the ones after.
DACH means Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). Data is not the new oil, and this gets reflected in how much engineers earn.

Though companies like the Schwarz Gruppe or OEDIV tend to understand their value so I don't think parent's comment is valid.
With what happened when Google bought them, I doubt if Apple can handle thenlm. Hyundai feels like a much better fit. Japanese companies have had a longer history with robotics and less insistence on short term profitability.
The paradox of tolerance isn't real. Laws are real. Someone could argue for whatever they want. If the law says it cannot be implemented, it doesn't matter if they win an election. It's just about the law.
Cobol and other early high-level languages were designed with the intention of allowing businesspeople to write their own programs so programmers wouldn't be needed. Some people really believed that!
I do sometimes get the impression that there will be a generational gap in ability to code between millennials and zoomers.

We had an overdemand for devs during late ZIRP early COVID leading to bootcamps and self taught pulling a lot of untrained into the industry. Many of them have left the industry.

Add to that the whole data science bubble and it’s bursting where we had tons of degrees and job openings for sort-of-devs. Lot of those jobs are gone now too.

Don’t forget the pull of “product management” and its demise outside big tech.

Now we have hiring freezes and juniors leaning on LLMs instead of actually spending an hour trying to solve problems.

Interesting times.
> The disadvantage of this technique was that there was no interoperability with PC diskettes possible, at all, even with software changes. For the Macintosh, this changed with the introduction of the Macintosh SE in 1987. The Macintosh SE had a new floppy drive controller, the ‘SWIM’ (Super Woz Integrated Machine) and a new disk drive which could read and write both Macintosh CLV and PC CAV formatted diskettes.

Pardon my nitpick, but there were two versions of the SE and the author has the dates mixed up here. The original 1987 model had the same disk capabilities as the Mac Plus except it could have two of them installed internally instead of just one on the Plus. Or one 800K drive and an internal SCSI HDD in the other bay — your choice! (Mine actually has all three thanks to a third party internal HDD bracket!)

The FDHD (floppy disk high density) version was released in 1989 as a standalone computer and also as an upgrade kit for the original model containing one (1) SuperDrive, SWIM, updated ROM, and little “FDHD” and “800K” badges to put next to the upgraded and remaining original drives respectively.

See https://bylenga.ddns.net/FDHD/MacSEservice.pdf#page=87
Would be curious to know if there’s an overlap with other retailers. Many “discount” supermarkets in Germany (Aldi, Penny, Lidl, Netto) have such aisles. As far as I can see in the UK, both Aldi and Lidl have similar things here, but not that vast of a variety?
The mechanisms of a pocket watch are specifically designed to avoid influence from the outside environment. A strandbeest has the added complexity of evolving to actual environments, which are pretty complex. The ability to survive is pretty life-like, even more than the ability to function.
Certainly, but the cost (in this case probably even the actual cost, but mostly in terms of impact on everyday life) is vastly higher with masks - they're inconvenient and annoying, and make social interaction harder.

Meanwhile, air purifiers use a bit of power (probably less of an environmental impact than the inevitable littering of masks which are basically all microplastic while looking like harmless paper), probably cost less per filter change than a week's supply of mask, and have a relatively negligible comfort impact.
True, but LLMs do.
> unless you think you've earned the water you drink

Earned? WTF logic is that? I pay for the water I drink. What in the world are you on about?
Via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41347176:

> It's common for the relay agent to use their human intelligence to navigate a phone menu or get the right party on the line, to rephrase and clarify, since typing is so slow.

I'd be tempted to use such a service simply for having someone else deal with phone menus and similar bullshit at the other end of the call.
Everyone says FB is sh*t and unusable, but every quarter their ad revenues go up. So are we wrong, or are the ad buyers wrong? Or is Instagram 80% of their revenues?
To confirm, it is just posted in the sense of crawling the web site, right? They don't post structured data I assume.
All current LLMs do though.
> Why are these service providers being punished for what their users do? Specifically, these service providers?

https://xkcd.com/538/

Someone wants the service to stop, and has the influence to make it happen, the users are not a concern.

Now that Telegram is compromised, what's the next chat app people trust?
Where's windows than?
> a flood on unsolicited spam from pages I’m not interested in or want to see

Dunno what kind of weird experiment they were conducting last December but once I start scrolling, I was getting AI generated images of really poor quality accompanied by comments from bot profiles among normal stuff, obviously out of chronological order from my friend's list.

Not that I'm visiting that page that often - on contrary; every few months to see if those who don't have anything beside messenger want something.
> Is it really child abuse if no children were involved?

I hope that there are people out there who know the true answer.

It takes a special kind of person to seek the truth about something that people feel so strongly about. The truth doesn't care about us or how we feel. Finding it is a thankless task full of distractions and dead ends. If a perspective makes sense and rings true to me, that says more about me than it does about whether the perspective describes reality.
I want to build things using Instant DB... I keep finding ShinyObjects here, but - Tiles using a LORA Network which updates a csv/json style payload and transfers GPS through lora messages.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41287031

Can you manage TILEs via Meshtastic? https://meshtastic.org/docs/software/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40llxjrIG3w&t=44s

I think there a lot of interesting things to make bike mesh a part of a security fabric - but ensuring that there is no way to spy on location data thats not yours? Doubt thats possible...
I doubt that will upset the public the way Signal and Telegram eventually will. Most people, including criminals, struggle with tech. If they want E2EE badly enough, and use one of the big messaging GUI apps they can succeed. If they can only do it via less user-friendly software, they'll need help or to do research, and likely will leave a trail behind them. That is more useful to law enforcement than if they simply had downloaded one of the most popular App Store apps. It's hard for a news story about a CLI utility to gain traction.
> and my introvert nature makes phonecalls very uncomfortable

It's got nothing to do with introversion, you aren't comfortable makeing phonecalls. Start making phonecalls and it will get better.

If you truly struggle, stop lying to yourself that it's just your introversion and seek help. Mental health issues aren't something to be ashamed of, it is affecting your quality of life and should be diagnosed and treated by a professional.

I'm not saying you have a mental health issue. I'm just saying if you do, you don't need to let it effect your life.
> if the government directly subsidized healthcare instead of relying on the insurance middlemen to perform its duties, this wouldn't be an issue

Most psychiatrists I know refuse to take Medicare because it has the same paperwork and pricing issues.
We're against it because allowing ten thousand unelected petty bureaucrats to adjudicate whether a voter is or is not allowed to cast their ballot on election day isn't a good system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ut6RouSs0w

after watching Carlson's interview with Durov have come to think he may be the genuine article. Very interesting bit his relating us agents trying to recruit a dev and pushing some specified but alas unnamed oss libraries to use in Telegram.
“please don’t take this as a judgemental piece to anyone that i am alluring to”

I would never judge anyone who finds your non-capitalized, grammatical-error ridden essays seductive.
Compilers are deterministic.

LLMs are not.
The initial investigation which triggered the arrest was made by the OFMIN ("Office spécialisé dans la lutte contre les violences faites aux mineurs" basically the government branch tracking and fighting CSAM).

Supposedly, Telegram (and by definition of the french law, the CEO) did not respond to requests for takedown of harmful content (or not enough or faster?) from the the OFMIN. This triggered another investigation looking globally at how Telegram handle content moderation on the public part of Telegram (Channel) which lead to all others charges of complicity.

This is basically the CEO taking the fall because the (unreachable by french law) Telegram company is not on french soil and he made the mistake on landing here.
Only visit this website once
No, the point of the compiler is to translate code into machine instruction.

Yes, it can optimize things for you, but that is not its purpose.
The distribution is 100% what got him caught, and is the vast majority of prosecutions, but creation and possession is still separately illegal. And he didn't need to modify any OSS. Any image-generating AI is capable of generating such imagery. So too can anyone use Photoshop, or a paint brush, to create illegal imagery.
That would make the quote true, or at least for early produced models. However, in guides created two months after the release of the Oculus Go, it was was already necessary to create an account: "before you can put your device in Developer Mode, you need to have created (or belong to) a developer organization on the Oculus Dashboard" [1].

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQQDyC2I0R0
What are the other 20% with you for?

What is the benefit that your customers see in using an European cloud?
You lost me. Why would normalization have any impact on child predators?

People aren’t going to be attracted to kids because they see such things. It’s like arguing gay porn is going to turn people gay.
Thanks for the link, major west European countries are in the [14,16] range.

UK has 13 as a threshold by default.
This is a Google policy, but BT implying that smartphones for 12 year-olds is ok sounds self serving.
What is up with these blogs that are apparently not made with the purpose of being read? Having sentences not start with uppercase letters really makes it one big mesh of letters. Certainly when they are run-on sentences only separated by commas.

Not helped by the choice of using a monospaced font. I get that it is often an aesthetic choice, but given that a blog post is written with the idea to be read, one I don't think is a particularly good one. Although the last time I made a remark about that on HN it became clear to me that a lot of people don't see the issue. Even if there are decades worth (at this point) of research that makes it clear that a sans serif font (or even a serif font on modern displays) works better for readability. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

In this case though, the combination of the monospaced font, everything being in lowercase and the run-on sentences I really am scratching my head here.

Are you trying to get a message out there? Or are you mostly going for aesthetics?
If a skilled human artist could generate convincing csam despite not having ever viewed it, a computer could too
He leaked raw footage of a war crime. Thats it. Thats all. Did the US put the war criminals in prison? Fuck no. They put the guy who leaked the footage of the war crime in prison.

Ive met plenty of Putin supporters and they downplay and excuse these kinds of abuses in exactly the same way you just did. It's two sides of the exact same coin.
Threads is testing disappearing posts that expire after 24 hours
For a long time my main use of Facebook was to check what events my friends were attending, and to check which events had which people going.

At some point Facebook crippled those features. Maybe for good reasons (I guess the possibility of stalking might be one). But in any case, I use Facebook much less now.
it is much less aggressively moderated and censored than facebook, and pleasant to use, source: first hand experience.

But i have no idea if it truly has more or less crime than other platforms. So we can't really tell if he's being messed with because he can't stand up for himself in a way Microsoft or Musk can, or it is truly a criminal problem.
this is a false question because neither option is valid. pedos are born pedos and they see and feel attraction to kids every single day. they are just as likely to act on these desires with or without cp
how do you figure? people were making directly analogous arguments about compilers back in the day. (not trying to argue that they are 'the same', but their is definitely a spectrum of code generation methods, with widely varying genres of guarantees, suiting a widely varying range of use cases)
Try logging in with the game client from twenty years ago, which is the equivalent here.
No, it's the vagina itself which is heavily colonized with bacteria (lactofermenting bacteria and friends). With a C-section you're removing the baby directly from the amniotic sac into the world.
Why does it run on demand? Mine runs 24/7, though it ramps down to lower speeds at night or when I'm away.
Not extinct just vastly reduced their commercial viability
Durov, Telegram CEO Arrested
France just arrested Pavel Durov, founder & CEO of the encrypted, uncensored Telegram platform. The need to protect free speech has never been more urgent.
Meanwhile certain big names can find loopholes, never pay taxes, hide behind an LLC, throw some CFO under the bus, strike some deals and never have to remotely face anything like getting their passport revoked. These rules are only for commoners.
Before adding complexity, try to make your web sites smaller!

I'm not a big fan of adding more complexity (infra and money) to improve performance.
It's a play off of the war dialing phrase where you would have your computer dial every phone number within a prefix. 212-555-0001, -0002,... -9999. You would log every number that was answered by another computer for later investigation.

Classic movie scene based on the concept from War Games:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb1r_uKOew4
> It’s not about the construction materials. It’s about the utility.

I think I missed your point. Wasn’t that exactly what I said?
oh that's true, for some reason I was thinking path from A->Bacon. But dijkstra from Bacon->A is just as computational intensive and much more valuable to keep around.
I'd really like to have everything written in Rust, not C. Rust does a lot of verification, verification that is very hard to understand. I'd like to be able to specify a function with a bunch of invariants about the inputs and outputs and have a computer come up with some memory-safe code that satisfies all those invariants and is very optimized, and also have a list of alternative algorithms (maybe you discard this invariant and you can make it O(nLog(n)) instead of O(n^2), maybe you can make it linear in memory and constant in time or vice versa...)

Maybe you can't examine what the LLM is doing, but as things get more advanced we can generate code to do things, and also have it generate executable formal proofs that the code works as advertised.
They aren't saying they're the same, I'm not sure how you got that interpretation. It's very clear they're highlighting the hypocrisy that arises from claiming to be against automating away aspects of programming while relying on tools that do exactly that for you - only being Ok with it as long as they aren't called "AI".
I used to work as a programmer, but have since pivoted into analysis - so I just view programming as another tool in my toolbox to solve problems. My main goal is to deliver insights and answer questions.

Sad to say, LLMs have made me lazy coder for the past two years or so. But I do deliver/finish work much faster, so my incentives to keep using LLMs as coding co-pilots are overshadowing my incentives to write code the "old way".

And for what it is worth, sometimes these posts read like modern luddite confessions - the rants just sound too personal.
I ported his code to a macOS screen saver back in the day, but I see I haven't updated it since macOS 10.6… I guess the chance of it working on a Apple Silicon Mac isn't anywhere near 100% :P

https://emage-software.com/
crazy how the same people who say fake pictures can cause enough harm to warrant jail time also are fine with dissemination of religious materials, violence porn on netflix, all of which is causing way more harm. by a mile. its not the harm, its just you picking and choosing.
I'm not sure I understand what you're actually doing with this. I think that adding photos of the components you're shipping would make the page clearer.
The difference is knowing some percentage will be used to commit crimes, and knowing a specific individual is going to use it to commit a crime.
> I think this will be our generations "realizing that washing your hands before surgery makes patients die less"

Surely not the same thing as Semmelweis. We want to destroy microbes (and viruses) in specific contexts, not indiscriminately.
Why does it seem that voting cybersecurity is so poor?
I'll trust them with my cloud infra when they can keep the high protein yoghurt in stock consistently.
That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
If using an LLM meant carefully crafting a complex, precise, formal prompt that specified only one possible output, I might be interested. But then I wonder if the prompt would be very much shorter.

Thinking about it, this depends on which differences we consider aspects of the output program, and which ones we consider trivial differences that don't count. If you say "build an RPG about dragons with a party of magic using heroes" and the LLM spits one out, you reached a level of abstraction where many choices relating to taste and feeling and atmosphere (and gameplay too) are waved aside as trivial details. You might extend the prompt to add a few more, but the whole point of creating a program this way is not to care about most of the details of the resulting experience. Those can be allowed to be generic and bland, right? Unless you care about leaving your personal touch on, say, all of them.