I'll prefix this to say that I'm currently reading a book that's having quite an impact on me, it's about American psychology, it's called Fantasyland. Its main point is that Americans, due to their founding myths of extreme individualism ("rugged individualism"), freedom above everything and religiosity, are more prone to conspiracy theories. That said...

> That's right. No need to cheer on the tightening control though. That is a form of fanaticism - you think you know what is right and everyone ought to do it. One should do things according to one's conscience. But, other opinions are available! Who has the truth to know right from wrong? Is it ok to have a different opinion?

It is ok, but not opinions are equal. Not all are equally well founded, not all are equally well reasoned, not all weigh all arguments by their importance and urgency.

> You do realise, that even science opinions are purchasable? If you have the money and need scientific support, you will get it.

Ok, and this argument is utterly useless and nihilistic. The status quo is anti-climate change. As I said above, a lot of money (and power) in our societies is tied into fossil fuel companies, ICE vehicle manufacturers, etc. Who would be these massive and nebulous "climate change science buyers" and how are they outfoxing and outspending the proven massive "anti climate change science buyers" (companies totaling maybe at least a a third of the global economy!) ?

> You possibly have a lot of disposable income, are quite young, live in a city, etc. But what of people with different life situations, with 'legacy' heating systems, ovens, etc. Do you want them to be penalised to do 'right thing'? Perhaps they should scrap their old but serviceable car? Pay more for their electricity?

I expect poor people to be grandfathered in (they will be able to use their old stuff until it breaks down) and middle and upper class people to foot the bill for innovating and reducing costs for everyone, since they can most afford it.

> Is that progress, or just a trick to get people to pay more?

Just like, for example, ICE vehicle manufacturers have been doing at least since COVID? How much more does a comparable ICE vehicle cost compared to 10 years ago?

If anything, almost all the techs I listed in my previous comment have a much lower potential floor, i.e. they can be much cheaper than current tech. Electricity produced from renewables can be extremely cheap, especially solar in sunny places. Heat pumps are basic tech we've had for almost a century. EVs should drop in price like a rock once we have the manufacturing ecosystems built out and batteries continue getting cheaper.

The main issue is the current price gouging, especially by middle men. A cheap solar panel or cheap-ish heat pump has humongous installation costs, frequently costing more than the equipment itself, which is insane.

Anyway, you seem quite conspiracy-minded (please read Fantasyland if you have the time), so I'm going to cut this discussion short. I have read and heard arguments from the other side, and I do understand the pain felt by many, but it's a pain that's generally going remain if we keep mass using fossil fuels PLUS we risk burning our future, completely. The risk just isn't worth it.