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"Animation and scripting and sprite stacks" sound like exactly the sorts of things that I, as a web surfer, deliberately turn off in my browser. There is already far too much animation and scripting etc. on the web.

Scalable graphics as a native web format is a great thing. But if the cost is yet another format filled with irritations and security holes, then no thanks.

The most successful media formats have been very narrowly focused. JPEG, GIF, PNG, MP3s, etc. do not have a zillion exciting features. You can't build a complete web application with a JPEG file. JPEG compresses photographs (and only photographs) really, really well, and that's all it does.

Maybe what scalable vector graphics need to do to catch on is to throw out the super-feature-dense SVG system and come up with something new, something simpler, something that just does scalable still images really well, something that isn't yet another enormous all-singing, all-dancing ball of security liabilities and unintended consequences.
Having seen so many amazing cultural events appear and disappear over the course of the internet timeline, I'm very happy that we are finally starting to get internet culture historians such as KnowYourMeme popping up to record and analyze these events for posterity.

As for rage comics, I'm confident that their crudeness is an important feature that let's ordinary people feel comfortable telling their ordinary stories without feeling they are required to be extraordinarily polished and professional just to have a voice.

Here is a wonderful rage comic that was made by an 86 year old man which has been viewed 2.8 million times. http://imgur.com/Cpdaq I doubt that his story would have ever been told without an MSPaint-based storytelling movement to work within. I doubt that many people would have the patience to read a professionally illustrated and typeset remake of the story even if it existed.
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If they kept config files to control every altered behaviour PHP configuration would be an even bigger mess than it is already.
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> I am going to guess you are coming at this entirely from the perspective of a sysadmin who doesn't do a lot with python.

I am going to guess you are coming at this form the perspective of a small web developer who hasn't deployed large projects at various customer sites, and then had to support them. Your projects are also just python, not much anything else (C++, Erlang, data files).

For example if you deploy on a well known OS and you deliver a software package to customers and expect to upgrade and maintain them then OS packaging makes sense. Otherwise you are re-inventing the wheel and are shooting yourself in the foot.

I, for one, don't see how you can just dump files one system. Then when it comes to upgrading, just never removing the previous files and simply overwriting files again.

> Creating platform-specific packages is nontrivial, also it is platform-specific.

As much as everyone bashes distutils it does/did? have a reasonably easy way of building rpms -- setup.py bdist_rpm. It has bugs, but it works.
and when they do they'll realize that building a company is fucking tough and sometimes you might have to ask your team to work long hours. None of the Cue engineers that have commented on here have said that they are undervalued or mistreated. It was a team decision - they want impact, they love their product. They wanted to work.

Frankly I'm disappointed that so many folks on hacker news think working long hours on a product is abusive. Newsflash--journalist work long hours to beat deadlines, musicians spend days in the studio recording their music, politicians and their aides spend long hours on the campaign trail, writers write well into the night. If you want to change the world, you going to have to bust your ass doing it.

And p.s. Moe has continually behaved like an ass on this forum, making snide insulting comments to countless people. He's the last person anyone should be white knighting. He's served an entire buffet of "ad hominem" and superiority. It's time he got called out for his dickish ways.
I'm reaching out to the event organizer. I talked with them a month ago about it briefly, of course I wasn't aware of this issue...

Any suggestions on a middle-ground for the event? Rather than rain down condemnation on a company that's trying something with potential, they may be convinced to make the right changes and still get the engagement they want from the community.
"They allow mobile apps to display their listings if you buy a license from them, but not websites."

Really? They used to allow any website to use their data for free as long as they didn't run ads against it or monetize it in any way. Kexter.com has been doing exactly what you're doing for almost ten years now.
You're complicating something that isn't that complicated. LinkedIn's TOS very clearly states in the terms that it is illegal to "Use the APIs in an Application that competes with products or services offered by us"

So when you see:

http://talent.linkedin.com/Recruiter

And your site is using the API to create a service for recruiters, it seems crystal clear to me that you are violating the LinkedIn TOS. This is not some grey area or some arbitrary changing of the rules - it is a very clear violation of LinkedIn API guidelines. I just don't see how this proves even a little bit that LinkedIn doesn't "care about their developers".

And for the bigger picture, it is amazing to me that a significant number of people expect LinkedIn to sit around while some other company attempts to undercut LinkedIn's own premium product using LinkedIn's API.
Something's wrong when one man can buy up a sizable portion of an entire state. Also, Larry Ellison is stealing the ancestral homelands of the Native Hawaiian people. This sale should be blocked, and the land re-distributed among the people of Hawaii. AT very least, sold to hundreds of buyers, not one. This is just one more example of cannibalistic unbridled capitalism at its finest, devouring all that it can because it can. Mr. Ellison, give the land back to the rightful owners of Hawaii, the aboriginal peoples there. It's not yours.
Most of the problem seems to stem from a couple of bad apples. I suggest removing them before they spoil the bushel.
There's a typo in the 3d para. and at the bottom. It should say 602(a) not 106(3).

106 delineates the rights. (And those rights are subject to 109.)

602 delineates what is infringement.

The dissent in the 2d Cir. case points out that 602 derives from 106. True, but there's no precedent that says 109 can subjugate 602. In fact, the S. Ct. in Quality King was quite clear: 602 is broader than 109.

If we're atlking about importing quantities of goods for resale in the U.S., either they cannot be imported or the importer will pay dearly in tariffs. That is how the major American corporations, who lobby for the the copyright laws, doing business globally wanted it. And that is how it shall be.

No court should be saying 109 trumps 602. This would open the floodgates to parallel imports. It would allow an industry to flourish that undercuts U.S. pricing, i.e. the prices American companies want to charge Americans.

These companies that sell goods in many markets worlwide are already unhappy with countries that allow parallel imports since consumers in those countries can potentially buy goods at the lowest prices worldwide, not just at the price an American company thinks consumers in that country should pay.

In sum, it destroys the differential pricing schemes these companies use to maximize profits.
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apartment hunting doesn't suck because you have to use craigslist. apartment hunting sucks because you have to deal with real estate agents.
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The real douche bag move is to wait for something to become really successful and pervasive before sending the cease and desist. Padmapper has been around for a long time and now they decide to drop the hammer. Fuck craigslist.
previous discussions:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4147486
Hi guyes,

Sorry for duplicating the post here again (original: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4149147)

But with the above link you no-longer can be able to access my course freely. (free limit exceeded)

So, I've added more free access to my course with this
This. I want to pay someone for it.

If the big players (hi, Amazon) don't do it, then set up IaaS as a Service:

• Push a button and my cloud images move from Amazon to Microsoft Azure to whatever Google's thing is (since that's ostensibly the discussion today). Include RackSpace, Linode, etc. as well for bonus points.

• Pay the bills for me. If Amazon won't handle migrating my images, I'll pay you 1% on top to take my money, pay the bills, and manage the change in billing when I switch providers. Here's your chance to advertise when you negotiate better deals with a competitor: show me how much money I could be saving.

• If I push the button, and there are really obvious things about my cloud images that won't work where I'm going - i.e. things you've tried to move and it didn't work for somebody else - detect that and say "nope, here's what you need to fix." It's not going to catch everything, but kind of like a virus database it should be constantly updated as you hit problems.

• I'm not asking you to do the migration for free. Well, if I want a free migration, I have to accept that it won't transfer perfectly and I'll have to debug it. Or, I can pay you an hourly rate to do the migration and set up a test environment on the new platform, and identify any problems.

I wish somebody would do that.
http://web.archive.org/web/20090323065900/http://vi-improved... (no longer exists on the site) is where I picked up the vim model.

It looks a bit untidy, but it's a very quick read because it's a low-density chat log.
If this ask you to pay, please try this post - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4149907

Free access to this link exceeded the amout I've specified.
Really nice. Commute is very inaccurate for the Indianapolis area, however. One marked as 1 hour took me 25-30 minutes.
TBH that website isn't much of an improvement.
Hey, as long as they have founder shares, im all for whatever your gung-ho routine entails
Things only get a cease and desist when they become noticeable enough to warrant writing a cease and desist letter.
Let's analyze your statement. What does it mean to import an item for resale without the copyright owner? I see 2 scenarios. First, the importer bought the item and turns around to sell it. That's easy, I bought a DVD and now want to sell it, why should whoever I bought the DVD from have a say with what I do with it. In my opinion the same applies whether it is 1 DVD or 500. This gets real easy if you put it in terms of physical goods. I bought 500 screws from you. Why should you have any say over what I do with those screws after the purchase. If the screw has some kind of copyrighted mark on it the rules shouldn't change.

The second case is if in our purchase agreement you add stipulations on what I can do. Then that's easy too. I will buy your 500 screws for a discounted price and agree not to export the screws. If I break the contract then you can sue for breach, in the jurisdiction that we agreed to in the contract.

Neither case needs to involve the US government nor the courts to decide what is commonly understood.
A system packaging system that was better about sandboxes and running certain programs in certain contexts would be the One True Answer. NixOS (a Linux distro) at least has the requisite features as bullet-points, but I'm yet to successfully get it to install in either of the two times I've tried. (And my level of experience with Linux installations is "no longer need to consult the Gentoo manual to install Gentoo".)
First time I've seen that rage comic. Thanks for linking :)

Rage comics have always fascinated me. Simple and intentionally 'bad', but more relatable than anything I've seen prior. That's a great example of how effective they can be in communication - both for producing and consuming.
Or at least a no-OS version, quietly offered through a few tech-friendly resellers.
I've never seen an article this long contain so little information.
I asked her out once. She blew me off saying I was "too eager" and "not her type".
This goes great with the HTML5 <meter> tag.
The point isn't the technology, it's the openness.
Do you have a link for that analysis (I'm too lazy to check)? I swear you're wrong on that. I quite clearly remember that the packets were tagged with QoS fields on the local ethernet. Whether they go over a different provisioned channel or not isn't really the point. Clearly they're taking hardware they installed for general internet service and repurposing it for a private, privileged traffic. That traffic is "internet" traffic on teh local network, and it's "internet" traffic at the backend (where it's sourced from Xfinity partners networks over lines that I'm 100% sure aren't dedicated). How can you possibly not feel that this is a violation of the spirit of net neutrality?
Be real, how many successful applications use default rounded rectangular buttons? This breaks absolutely nothing.
Speaking about Spontaneous Combustion, each time I hear about that I think of 3rd grade, when I read this...
http://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2008/12/14
Funnily enough, the exact thing you described has already happened. PadMapper has a companion PadLister service (http://www.padlister.com/) that does just that.
Craigslist does not allow scraping. Beg for help and for support for breaking their rules elsewhere. This is Hacker News, not "help me retain a business model after I broke rules" central.

You could alternatively hire people to spam them with nice requests to reconsider.
Craigslist does not allow scraping. Beg for help and for support for breaking their rules elsewhere. This is Hacker News, not "help me retain a business model after I broke rules" central.
You could alternatively hire people to spam them with nice requests to reconsider.
"The change was part of standardizing all of PHP on the same parameter parsing code." is not an 'arbitrary change' 'for no reason'.

Even if the reason is making PHP more consistent and paying off technical debt for future PHP maintenance, instead of benefitting you directly, it's still a reasonable change for a reasonable reason.
It stills shows a lack of rigour on the part of the developer. A simple "empty()" and "is_numeric()" check should be done on any user input expecting a float BEFORE you pass it off to a number formatting function expecting a float.
I'm hearing a tiny, sad violin.
I tried to overlay an SVG logo over a photo background (jpg). While it more or less worked after futzing, it was a responsive website and re-sizing the screen caused the SVG to not stay aligned with the background jpg. It doesn't appear to be possible with CSS. So I had to just drop SVG and use a jpg instead. Lame.
The noise cancelling headphones I have work wonderfully for voices. Though, they need some music playing in order to be effective, they don't just work by themselves. They work so well that people have to come up and actually stand where I can see them before I notice them.
Maybe. I've been apartment hunting with PadMapper in NYC lately, and it's amazing how much of the postings on Craigslist (particularly no-fee) are just outright bullshit. It's a much higher proportion than the other big NYC-local sites that do no-fee search.

For my geographical area at least, the removal of Craiglist might improve the signal-noise ratio.
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The end game for Padmapper would definitely and without a doubt be to build its business using Craigslist and then compete with it. I wonder how many startups launched off of Craigslist.
Ah, when stackexchange and hacker news become "halp google 4 me plz"
Previous discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4085502
Where has all the money in the world gone?
Point in fact, of the (several) really great folks who reached out to me from this months hiring thread, the only fellow I'm starting to collaborate with right now (rather than a few months out) has a few cute haskell Libs on hackage. And By collaborate mean a semi/Demi/ maybe even full cofounder piece :-)

Here's the kicker about Haskell code (and many other functional langs): it's very easy to evaluate the work for quality engineering and whether or not there's some real ingenuity in it, beyond just the algorithmic pieces and the overall architecture diagram. Or at least I shall make that claim.
I've had experience with whiteboard wallpaper before (I don't know about the paint). After a while, it starts to look like crap because it's just not as clean as when you started. Sort of like real whiteboards, but permanently affixed to your wall.
I'm sorry why do we care? He just lost his voice. It happens.
This is unfortunate but I'm reminded of this discussion from just over a week ago:

"Don't build your house on someone else's platform" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4093796
RBM video presentation from 2007 by Hinton. Unsupervised learning is just amazing - imagine a neural net capable of "understanding" things it sees, but has never had direct instruction about. Just watch pictures, videos, let it "read" books and it learns. No human necessary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyzOUbkUf3M
God forbid people actually work on something because they love it and want impact. In majority of those professions I detailed above, they make much much less than engineers but they still work hard and work long hours. Not everyone is mercenary. Why do you think so many rich people in tech still work? still build? If it's just about shares and profits, then head to finance. though I doubt they'd appreciate the whinging about long hours....
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Yes this. A million times this.

Anyone who uses PHP seriously knows when accepting user input you have to do type checking rigorously. The manual states the input has to be a float. Of course in PHP this means it SHOULD be a float but why risk sending it a variable who's type is still undecided?
There's a very good Google Tech Talk by Geoff Hinton (who has worked closely with Dahl on a lot of this research and developed some of the key algorithms in this field) that explains how to build deep belief networks using layers of RBMs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyzOUbkUf3M

That video focuses on handwritten digit recognition, but it's great for understanding the basics. There's a second Google Tech Talk video from a few years later that talks directly about phoneme recognition as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdIURAu1-aU
Thanks for the explanation! I've talked with lawyers about this in the past week, and facts, totally rewritten summaries of fact, and collections of facts aren't copyrightable in the US, so it's not really an issue of their content, as far as I understand. They do have a right not to be crawled by me, though, especially if it causes a burden on them. I wrote that crawler specifically to be very light on their servers including making tradeoffs to usability (it never recrawls listings), but that's still their decision to make. If there are ways to get the data that don't involve touching their servers, then the TOU no longer applies, if I understand the law, but it would obviously make them angry, and so I'm most likely not going to do that.
>But what about all of those software businesses that have built on top of the iOS API + App Store? Would you say that they are also taking a massive risk?

Yes. If Apple wants to offer a product with similar functionality to yours they can make your disappear. Sharecropping is inherently risky.
Maybe they should block you then buy you. Probably would help them in the negotiation...

But in all seriousness, PadMapper was a great service and seemed to do it the "right" way (providing deep links back into Craigslist's site/content), if there is a "right way" to unofficially gather data without use of a public API.
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> Ajax events should be attached only on document as of 1.9.

Looks like they are not being removed but that you should attach to document only.
Sadly, I live in Staten Island, still one of the boroughs. I live on the southern end of the island, and work near the Empire State Building. While it is indeed excessive, it's on a nice comfortable tour style bus so I get an extra 2 hour nap time in the morning and can get work done on my way home - and I save more money due to far lower rent.
I don't get it. There are plenty of legally-enforceable forms online.
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Maybe, if you want to chat more about this, email me at eric@padmapper.com
Craig is just a customer service rep. He isn't in charge of Craigslist anymore. Jim Buckmaster is the guy you want to speak to. Check out the documentary, it's pretty good.
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Haha you could always filter out Craigslist with the sources filter (though it's a bit hidden)
I may have a contrarian view, but Craigslist not only has the right to choose who can consume their data, but how and when. It also, has the right to make it available any which way it likes. The idea that PadMapper has any right to Craigslist postings because it is a better service is ridiculous; it's like me saying that I think your house looks unkept so I am going to move in.
I call spam anything that is in my news feed but ask me to buy something instead of informing me. Sorry if you took it personally.

Ironically, i wouldn't call spam if done by you (assume the authors) with the "show hn" shenanigans...
The words "under penalty of perjury" have nothing to do with their enforceability.
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Hm, that's kind of an interesting idea. I'd be pretty embarrassed at all the hacks I've added over the years, but I'll definitely keep that in mind.
It goes deeper than that. They've been working on Service-Oriented Architecture for over a decade. I think I heard that Monkeybagel was a satire of Amazon's SOA push.

http://monkeybagel.com/monkeybagel.html
What about copyright traps?

Say Craigslist created a fake listing or two for say a 2 bedroom apartment in the middle of an industrial complex? (ie, an apartment that doesn't exist, but was placed there by Craiglist to serve as evidence against your copying).

If the Craigslist lawyers find that fake listing on PadMapper, could they do anything to charge you with regards to a copyright violation?

I'm not trying to drag this on. I'm only trying to help.

Here is a smoking gun article on Rand McNally's copyright traps (or lack thereof): http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1058/do-maps-have-c...
It may have been laziness once but if anything slipped, it slipped a long time ago. I'd argue that a sentence like "Whom are you talking to?" would sound pompous and old-fashioned to most Anglophones (and not solely because it ends with a preposition).
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