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It's an already vetted name that is pretty good for a tablet. Might as well reuse it since no one outside the tech community even knows what a Surface is.

Edit: And the old Surface is now "Samsung SUR40 with Microsoft Pixelsense"
> Biomed is so popular because so many students go to WashU for undergrad to be premed and then switch to other majors later--biomed being the best premed choice of the engineering disciplines.

Undoubtedly, many students who are initially in biomedical engineering switch to other majors. However, the data I posted above was the graduating class sizes. So even after all those people who switch to other majors have left, biomedical engineering has a plurality of students.
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>I've never seen a QR code scan in under a minute,

How is it taking you that long to scan QR codes?

I'm using a free barcode scanner with a fairly slow phone (LG Optimus) and I just pulled up a bunch of QR codes to scan.

Every one is done in under a second.

It takes the same amount of time for me to pull up either the keyboard or the barcode scanner, and I definitely can't type a url in under 1 second, so the scanner beats it hands down.
>some sort of Retina?

The power of Apple's marketing cannot be overstated here. You're referring to a Microsoft screen by an Apple trademark.
I don't see a sticker telling me what kind of processor is in inside, nor do I see a sticker telling me which version of Windows this is. I'm a bit confused.
You can do 90% of what you'd want to do on a laptop without the laptop. Why carry both?

A lot of people I know in a certain live coverage niche have already switched to iPads over laptops for composing and publishing content on the fly, with and without external keyboards. A tablet with keyboard makes a lot of sense over a laptop where mobility is important.
Yes, except that I'm not about to do a startup in Common Lisp or in anything else anytime soon.

But why do you care what my position is, and why does it matter why the OP posted the question?
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Why not offer video options, instead of shoving silverlight in our throat.
The Win8Pro version has about the same 42 W-h battery size as in the new iPad. I doubt it can manage the same battery life, especially if it has to have vents.
when you can't beat them, join them.
Wow,

What better vehicle for an OS generally panned as a poor marriage of touch and keyboard - than a tablet marrying ... touch and keyboard. Touchscreen laptops have been a hit so far... I suggest they add a pen.

Even the engadget page is strikingly confusing. "Hey we can use javascript to switch images as the scrolls down the page" - sure, that doesn't mean you should have such bizarro design. If the reviews are correct here, malform follows malfunction..
Heh yeah well. First mover advantage I guess.

And apple of course had it right. If you want to bring something new to the table, call it something new. Don't mix unrelated terms in a monster called ClearType HD Display.
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I'm actually a Windows user (although I own an iPad), but you have to be a bit humored by all this. As usual where Apple has used a feather Microsoft have used the whole chicken with keyboards, screws, different versions, the whole enchilada. I'm only surprised there's no stickers. "ClearType display"? really, you felt you had to brand it just to compete with "Retina display".

Despite all this the tablet might actually be good, and seeing another quality tablet contender is always good for competition. I am however getting a bit worried by Microsofts "me too"-attitude and the reek of desperation these days. They could be making awesome stuff but they lack follow-through and the finer points of taste

It's a pity they won't put their chips down on things that actually were original, like the courier or mainstreaming the surface (the table). In the end they didn't have any choice since they couldn't surrender their enterprise tablet/smartphone customers to Apple. The Courier was innovative but perhaps too niche so its not even sure that was a bad call.

I guess I'm just arguing about the finer points about their attitude and execution, with Microsoft I'm always afraid that in-company bureaucracy will manifest itself into some stupid decision on the consumers behalf. Apple are fanatics (and splending assholes in some cases), but atleast you feel they pretty much set the consumer first and have some taste

Having said all this I'm still kinda rooting for MS since they ironically enough seem to be the underdog nowadays, how the tables have turned...
I wonder what Microsoft's hardware partners think of all this. It's not just competition, they actively disparaged the others by saying that it was as powerful as all the ultrabooks out there.
Does anyone know the estimated retail price for it?
The cover-with-keyboard looks like a great idea. Can't wait to give it a try.
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This device doesn't look like it will work well in my lap. I use a 5 year old laptop that I'm pretty happy with. I have a tablet that I never use but that's mostly because I don't like touchscreen interfaces, except on phones where they are lesser of 2 evils (the other evil being super-tiny keyboards).
Kudos, Microsoft. Glad to see somebody give Apple a little competition. Been looking for a way to get my Chrome extension and scripts onto a tablet form-factor.
I used to have a rollable keyboard - it was impossible to use, despite it's novelty factor.

I hope this works well - lots of design/manufacturing issues here - How durable is it? Is it at least as good as an onscreen keyboard? How much does it cost to replace when it does wear out or take a coffee spill?

Looks interesting - I'll be excited when I try it out.
Great idea, I have been thinking of something similar for a while.
I see these all the time in Chicago. I think the only time I've ever scanned one was because I was curious as to the asking price of a house near me.
You mean how like Apple was so original with an MP3 player?
It looks to be some sort of "Home" button. I suspect the icon is intended to match the "Windows Key".
Since there's a ClearType HD and ClearType Full HD, it's safe to assume that the ClearType Full HD is 1920x1080 (16:9 screen).

Probably the ClearType HD is only 1366x768?
I believe the 2100 likes is due to the fact that they basically took over the URL (http://www.microsoft.com/surface) from the Surface computing platform that they had been working on with Samsung, and the likes are probably residual (Facebook likes are linked to a URL)
The keyboard is so cool. Its hard to believe its real.
Windows 8, Ivy Bridge i5. They are just doing the conference now so that may be why the details aren't up yet.
Good to see MS trying to compete with the iPad. Not sure that they'll have any more success than the Android based systems, but at least they're not ceding the market to Apple.

I'll be very interested to see how the OEM partners view this.

The key will be in pricing. If it's $499 for the base version, it might have a chance. Pricing it "on par with Ultrabook-class PCs" will leave it Zuned.

I'm also surprised that Microsoft was able to keep this under wraps for this long.
Yeah, cover as a keyboard is along the lines of Apple-like innovation. I think that's not a bad design decision, so long as it's a choice (i.e. SW keyboard is also an option).
It's an iPad with a USB port - I want one
QR codes are new to most advertisers, so they don't know what to do with them. They're just using QR codes to use QR codes without thinking about whether they make sense.

When the wii first came out, it was full of games where motion control made no sense. Some marketing guy told the developers to add motion control. It didn't matter if it fit the game or not, they just did it, so they could say they had it on the box.

There is a place for QR codes. As soon as the novelty wears off and advertisers stop thinking they're cool, we'll start to see them used in real meaningful applications.
Well. I guess it seems to be a thing now..

What is everyone's opinion on this?
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Microsoft does :)
If this lives up to the promise, it will definitely replace my netbook. This looks like something that will perform well as a tablet for apps and light internet usage, and is an easy form-factor to take to a coffeeshop for some hacking or writing as a netbook replacement.

EDIT: Why downvote ?? I don't care about the points, just curious if you are MS haters or something.
Don't worry, it's made by Microsoft, so it will suck.
As a happy iPad owner, and with knowing next to nothing just from first impressions, I can say this genuinely looks like a very intriguing effort by Microsoft. I love the smart cover with keyboard and it looks to be a perfect platform to showcase Win8 on. Hope this gets some real success, would be great to have some decent competition in the tablet space to keep Apple on their toes (I know there are other tablets, but they suck or are just trying to be ultra cheap etc).
Did anyone find the Verge's live blog much more easier to use?

Also, is anyone aware of a way to "pause" a live blog? That would be worthwhile if say you get a call...
Who said I never read anything Ballmer said?! On the contrary, I've read and listened to a lot of his interviews and follow MS news moderately well for someone who hates Windows but like (new) Windows Mobile and Win8 (because I think they have talent, but have stuck with poor management), so I guess I'm qualified to judge about Ballmer and I claim that almost none of his remarks on the direction of technology in the past 4-5 years were actually true.
Xbox is a good product.
You highlight one of my greatest frustrations with android. I have an android phone, droid x2, that is about a year old. I can't get 4.0 on it!

"I guess I just fail to see how "it's more intuitive" is anything more than "I'm used to it" these days."

If a 2 year old can use iOS easily, and not use Android, then it is much more than "I'm used to it". Right? Regardless of whether I am a two year old, that is strong evidence that it is more intuitive.

"Even multitasking is more intuitive in Android."

Not on my droid x2. I have no idea wtf it's doing. When I hold down the home button it shows me about 5 apps. It thinks it is showing me the most recently used, but I have no idea how it determines that. It usually shows me the "Home" "app" which apparently gets used often. All this "app" does is take me to the home screen. The next app it always shows me is the google currents app. Apparently every time it fetches more content in the background it counts that as "recently used".

I can go on and on and on like this.

"I mean this in a humorous sense, but are you a 2 year old? And even then, what user experiences vary so much across them that there's a discernable difference?"

Tons, but I don't feel like taking the time to type them out. I'll give you two quick examples. I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old. The 4 year old had an iPad when she was 2 as well so I've watched two kids use iPads and one of them use android. They learn by pushing buttons/icons and remembering what happens. My android phone is sleeping, how do they wake it up? There are 4 buttons instead of 1, that confuses a two year old for a while. eventually they can remember which one is which, but it takes a while. So that's one thing. Now once they get the screen on and they want to unlock it, there are two sliders instead of 1. The second slider turns the sound off and on. That's the second thing. Ok, I'll add one more, widgets. When you look at an iOS screen there are only icons for apps or folders so all you can really do are open apps or open folders which shows you apps. On android you don't know what you're looking at or what will happen when you click it. Maybe it will call the person in the picture, maybe it's a text box to enter a search, maybe it doesn't do anything and is just some informational widget, and maybe it's an app and will open an app. There's another.

Ok, one more. Many apps, even ones for kids, depend on the back button. This confuses the hell out of a 2 year old, yet my two year old has no problem figuring out how to navigate around the coloring apps on iOS which have buttons in the app for navigation.
While this is cool, it is neither new or good.

The result looks great, no paint used! Must be ok?

To me it would still seem there was a cost of cleanup, therefore damage has been done. For the council to remove the graffiti they would have to clean the surronding pavement.

edit: I knew this would be downvoted, but my personal opinion still stands. This is not free to cleanup... Chalk is easier[to cleanup], chalk disapears with rain.
Not really because then I have to type a bunch of characters instead of just clicking a button.

QR Codes are nice macros, in the right places. They don't necessarily belong on every uncovered surface, but in many cases they can transfer a relatively large amount of data quickly and easily.

I think we're still figuring out QR Codes and the proper applications of them. I remember usenet discussions in 1996 asking "Why did Ford put a URL in their commercial? Why do I need/want that? What do I do with it?"...
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You want them to add a pen? They added a pen:

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/632...
I'm not going into an originality discussion, certainly that argument has been made thousand of thousand times on forums all over the internet.

Very few companies are truly original. Even fewer are successful while being truly original. But having the guts to go all in, be consistent and going that little extra mile will get you pretty far.
At least in Java, storing a date/time as a primitive improves immutability and is a good pattern.

You don't expose the underlying long value publicly so you end up with something like the following:

private long primitiveDate;

public Date getDate() {
return new Date(primitiveDate);
}

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This prevents calling methods from doing something stupid like:

o.getDate().setTime(123455L)

to modify a date that shouldn't be editable.
I said no such thing. The point of my post is that understanding a lot of art requires context. I gave two examples of the kind of art people here appreciate perfectly well. I also said that contemporary art is often mysterious to me, and described what happens when I go with friends who do have the context. I did not say I fully get the artwork then. What I do have is have some notion of why people appreciate it.

I at no point said, "Gosh, you can understand all art easily after 3 sentences of explanation". Which you should have gotten by analogy; a layman can't get one of the IOCCC entries after a short explanation, and a non-gamer won't really appreciate Upgrade Complete if it's the first game they've ever played. They can get that there's something to get, but they can't possibly fully understand a work in context until they understand the context.
Windows Phone 7 isn't bad.
Haven't you tried XBox, Kinect, Office, Visual Studio?
I just flashed back to Ballmer mocking the MacBook Air 4 years ago. I guess he did want one after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYcxvEfUikg
This looks very interesting; I've requested an invite.

One meta question: why not link the Vero logo to the main Vero site?
and it's late at night in Europe
The blue "Play video" link loaded youtube for me, which one are you talking about?
Interesting. Thanks for the comprehensive reply, I often forget how spoiled I am with a Nexus and stock ICS.
I hadn't heard about that until this thread - nice! I am looking forward to that. Seems like a great thing.
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I agree with you, but let me rephrase one sentence.

"More control is a big source of value for a [minority of people]"
Maybe this is just a teaser video. It certainly seems that way. They are revealing the product right now .....

Look at the video they have for the consumer preview of Windows 8 ... it's more in the vein of what you are talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM5pFkNQ7no&feature=plcp
I'm very excited by the i5 packing version with DisplayPort out; being able to take the same device from your bedside table to reading on the train to cranking out code at work is the Star Trek-esque vision of computing I've had in my head since I was a toddler, and it's nice to see it finally starting to come to fruition.
Serious question, in what way is your second picture not a picture of a more-or-less conventional laptop?

I'm asking because I find the "live blog" page incomprehensible.
2012 is the year third party OEMs start to go extinct. First (and always) Apple, now Microsoft, soon Google/Motorola. There may be some niche markets left over for third party OEMs but otherwise I think they're done. No wonder HP wanted out of the PC industry. Maybe they knew something we didn't?
It really depends on how much coordination is needed on a daily basis, I think. In tech especially there are a reasonable number of companies that are fairly lax on caring what precise hours you keep, so long as the git pushes and bug triage keep coming.
Microsoft had the touch-surface interface back like a year before the iphone came out. But they rolled it out as a $10000 restuarant/menu interface instead of a computing/consumer device one. Classic good tech/bad customer targeting failure. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2007/may07/05-29ms...
It's a thinner ASUS EeePad Transformer - http://uk.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/
"Unexpected error occurred." at http://www.microsoft.com/surface/

Not a good omen. (Edit: they fixed it.)

Without having seen the product, I'd say that its fortunes will be based largely on its price point. They need to have a compelling offering in the $499 range, or this is going to be a blip on the iPad/Kindle Fire market.
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Good news I'd say, hope it continues to progress and become the number one engine on Linux. Epic from my understanding gave up on Linux but not Id and now there's Unity.
The video played in Flash, via YouTube for me.

I don't have Silverlight installed, maybe it fellback to Youtube?
Launching with Windows 8 (and 3 months later for the pro version). Pricing starts as competitive with other tablets for their 32gb and 64gb variants, going up to ultrabook range for their 128gb version.

So: No immediate launch. No major price advantage (and no pricing details either)
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You mean a compact music player with a 2.5" HDD, room for 5GB of music, with 20 minutes of skip protection, a FireWire port for 50MB per second transfer, a click wheel for navigation, and a user friendly interface?

Yes, that was pretty novel in 2002.
Probably in the iPad range, I can't imagine a successful tablet being more expensive than the iPad.
One of the co-founders here. Thanks for putting your email down, you'll get an invite soon!

Just fixed the link on the header logo (did the same for the logo in the sidebar), good suggestion.
I’m really sorry to get all critical, but if you personally have to SSH into the server to do setup or deployment—especially if you have to be root—you’re doing it wrong.

I also feel that if anyone or anything has to SSH into a server for deployment, it could be done better. I use Chef to automate all of this stuff; it's surprising that we have great tools like Chef, Puppet and CFEngine and people still feel the need to write custom collections of fragile scripts to get basic stuff done.
Ask HN: Why no charset in your head tag?
I noticed that Hacker News doesn't provide a charset in its <head>. Is there a reason for this? I would have thought that a site like this would indicate this.
This is seriously one of the most heavy handed, almost laughable attempts at being hip and cool I've ever seen. I thought it was a parody for a second.

Honestly could they scream any louder 'We are absolutely terrified of Apple. Please love us again.'
Microsoft has a big event, announces new hardware and doesn’t announce price or availability?
Heh, I think he was referencing the fact that nearly all consumer Windows devices are plastered with silly stickers.
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IBM saw this coming 8 years ago.
It's funny that they did a whole presentation like this without mentioning the price, aside from saying it'll be priced "like comparable tablets based on ARM," which doesn't mean much on the face of it. Just recently there was a lot of talk about how Windows 8 is too expensive for tablets running it to be priced in a range to compete with the iPad. One would think that, since Microsoft is making it in-house, it might be cheap enough to compete with the iPad; but of course we won't know until we know.

Will we get a price today, or are they holding that back?
theverge.com had a much better live blog.
There's women are more-stupid/less–competent than men sexism and there's women are less likely to have spent time attaining a useless (and kinda dorky) skill at first person shooters non-sexism.
I was surprised. Did they forget to mention about price and availability?

Poor PR from MSFT.
The first example that comes to mind for me is a scene in the 2007 movie Shoot 'Em Up; the protagonist's workaround for using a dead henchman's thumbprint-verified firearm is to use their severed hand (of course).
And for the most part those situations are not ones where the presence of QR codes would be of significant benefit.

Note that I think QR codes are great for things like airline tickets or baggage tracking tags.
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very few tech companies recruit there

"What's a tech company?" -- me, at graduation from WashU, circa 2004. Seriously, it was not on our collective radar screen, even in the engineering department. There was one girl from my CS class flown out to Silicon Valley to interview with $HOUSEHOLD_NAME and we all felt that was really exotic.
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Their site seems to be having problems right now, especially a certain iframe they have in the bottom left corner which times out every page load.
I'm impressed. Construction and overall engineering looks solid, the integrated super-thin keyboard is cool, the stylus input is impressive.

Some nagging questions: battery life? price? availability? (most likely concurrent with win 8 release) screen resolution? (it looked like an IPS display from the screen shots) ram & cpu specs?
How'd this get to #1 post so fast?
What other terms are there to use appart from specifics like resolution of DPI. There was HD and Full HD, but what does it make these new screens?
Yeah seriously. Microsoft might actually become publicly cool someday soon. This was the most impressive thing I have ever seen Microsoft do -- both in terms of quality of presentation and product. I guess we'll see if it is as impressive hands-on.
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