skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> The output of a machine simply does not qualify for copyright protection – it is in the public domain.

I am reading this right… ? If this argument is generally true, does this mean that the output of a compiler might also be sent into the public domain? Or the live recording and broadcast of an event which involves automated machines on all levels?
> Most financial transactions have multiple time dimensions: a trade is requested, booked, filled, matched, reconciliated, paid, settled at different times. These times often don't even follow a perfectly logical order (you can request and fill a trade and book it an hour later).

Similar issues exist with transaction identifiers. Every party involved with any aspect of a transaction may assign that aspect of the transaction zero or more identifiers, those identifiers may or may not be unique over any particular set of transactions and/or events related to transactions, and the sources of those identifiers may or may not even correctly document what, exactly, those identifiers identify. (And their representatives may think they know, and they may be wrong.) Your own code may need to generate identifiers for events associated with transactions, and you may or may not want to leak information in your choice of identifiers.

For new designs, my suggestion would be to treat these as one-to-many relations. Have a table along the lines of (transaction id, event, identifier issuer, identifier name, identifier). You might also need a timestamp in there, and you may need to throw in a row id of some sort as well. You might want to make an allowance for identifiers having variable type — are they bytes? Unicode? something else? You could plausibly get away with making these be JSON keys in an event object instead, but this gets awkward when someone tells you an identifier after the fact.
When he isn't talking about medicine, I get very strong Chris McCandless vibes. That need to be free, away from modern life, the demands, the unnecessary stress. Maybe get away from people too (which is harder to admit to... people directly).

I haven't come across a video yet but I'm sure he's better prepared for outdoor living than some others that have done similar. There's a large sub-community of Van Lifers doing similar. With a little planning and preparation, it's a great life. Especially for those that clearly need to get away from it all.

I can't imagine how difficult the decision was. He basically said that his entire 9 year career was emotionally difficult. That is a heavy burden to bear for so long. I'm certain that his upbringing, his years of preparation, the expectations of the world... made the decision to walk away (without a plan) seem overwhelming.

Still... he broke free from all of that!

Honestly... I feel so happy for him. To be able to make the decision and implement it. To be at a point where he can begin talking about it, freely. To be connected to civilization on his terms. To live his life in a way that makes him happy.
This isn't about your or my use case and/or preferences.
Agreed, but as I understand it they do make that promise:

"We do not use your Workspace data to train or improve the underlying generative AI and large language models that power Gemini, Search, and other systems outside of Workspace without permission."

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/14615114?hl=en

Edit: I believe that this "without permission" caveat refers to experimental things like Workspace Labs where you have to give them that permission if you decide to join.
It’s not clear whether these results would generalize much beyond Logo. Reading the part which starts with “To understand how recursive procedures work in Logo one must know:” makes Logo recursive procedures sound pretty terrible - typical ad-hoc language design.
New incompletely rifted microcontinent identified between Greenland and Canada
> Despite following a soviet-styled planned economy, you are a fledgling non-aligned nation

I hope this doesn't mean everything ultimately (ca.1990) ends in tears as your brotherhood of peoples succumbs to talk-radio driven internecine warfare?
Why am I sensing systemd vibes from your message lol
Since weights are not distributed only used by Github to provide the service, they need not worry about GPL atleast. I don't know about AGPL.
Absolutely. I use it both with and without Nix.

By direnv's design, this vscode extension restores sanity in vscode env handling mess†: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=mkhl.dir...

† Depending on how you (re)start vscode (terminal vs launchd) it's going to either have some project env vars or not. e.g do `code /some/path` in a terminal and it inherits env vars from the terminal, which is nonsense on macOS because then if you reopen the project the env vars are gone because it's been relaunched by launchd. Dunno if it has been fixed but it was even worse when a vscode process initially started via terminal would have env vars inherited for all subsequently opened projects, even different ones.
Knowledge / property graphs provide truths that can guide the retrieval. LLMs lack a truth function, ie causality. The KPG provides this as sorta a lace across the llm vector space. A KPG can either be used as a filter or a router of sorts. I expect we’ll see kpgs colocated with vector data of the llm and a tuned router layer uses it to guide retrieval and course correct the output. Kind of like MoE.
IRS collected $1B in back taxes from millionaires in less than a year
Why isn't there yet a "two clicks away unsubscribe" law? Unsubscribing from any service is two clicks away: one for unsubscribing and the second should be a mail with a link to confirm that you effectively want to unsubscribe. And you should receive another email confirming that you definitely unsubscribed. This button for unsubscribing should be visible at all times from whatever app/browser/GUI you're using. It is as simple as that. Why isn't this a solved problem yet?
My take is that artists are hypocrites.

"
If you had so many dollars you would change your motto/
to say your account is 7 digits like you won the lotto/
buy vanilla ice and lick it like there's no tomorrow
"

In hip-hop culture these lyrics could jog someone's memory of some Nas lyrics, some 8 mile battle songs maybe.

Could an AI come up with those awful lyrics? It sure could if it knew the specific Nas lyrics, 8 mile battle lyrics, knew about the lotto and twist the rules, what a motto is and so on.

Would it infringe any copyright by knowing the lyrics to Nas songs, 8 mile battle songs? According to you, yes. But I disagree.

Why hypocrites? Because I think artists (and coders) are always inspired by someone else's work and add their own experience, context, personality on top to create new work. Yes, generative AI is doing it a massive scale and democratizing most of the creative process, but to me it's the same thing even if, technically, it may be very crude and basic.
Counter-counter point.

The only reason the world hasn't collapsed into a giant puddle of N-squared recursive CPU execution is because Excel's limitations place natural boundaries on the blast-radius of any single SME's poorly built software before they are forced to engage someone who has at least SOME idea WTF they're doing.

I say this as someone who is much closer to the SME end of the spectrum than the Software Engineering Professional end.
> you surely cannot argue that the perception of it isn't.

Your perception of it is, most people don't see art as political. Nobody would find a painting of a sea with a rock to be political, except really annoying people.
I think that world still exists. We're on HN, so there's always going to be a business/startup bias in what we talk about and share here. And doubly so if someone develops a product as open source with a commercial offering to support it from the get go.

Off the top of my head, Imgui[0] is an example of an open source project, widely used, developed by a small group with a main contributor. AssetCooker [1] is a project that I discovered recently which is clearly a passion project from a single developer who shared it with the world. CNCF [2] is an odd one, but in my mind it's a 21st century Apache foundation - they have a bunch of core projects which are complete open source projects, used widely in production and sustained through different models.

I think imgui (of the bunch) is probably closest to the GCC-of-the-early-90's idea.

[0] https://github.com/ocornut/imgui

[1] https://github.com/jlaumon/AssetCooker

[2] https://www.cncf.io/projects/
Hem... How "private" can be something existing on someone else computer, not just as mere data, but also the code to use and visualize them?
Stable Assistant: Chatbot with Stable Diffusion 3 Ultra, Stable Video
I am not sure what this has anything to do with my statement above. I am talking about social proof here, which is listed as part of dark patterns.

What is wrong with saying, we have X number of happy customers? As long as it's true, I am not sure how it is deceptive.
What about the emitted code which is actually derived from GPL code?

What about BSL, SSPL, or other source available (for your eyes only) licenses? Copilot harvests all public repos, regardless of its license.
re: undo settings, I set my `undolevels` [0] to a very high number to make it unlimited for all intents and purposes.

[0] https://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/options.html#'undolev...
That's the disturbing part, isn't it - it's completely normalized to the point that most of the sites you're gonna pass through on a given day will be doing it to some degree.

It's like if in literally every room you entered on a given day, there was one of those street peddlers who accost you to make you sign a subscription to something or other. Sure you can just firmly tell him no a couple of times and he'll back off, but going through your day like that sucks!
As for the rest of them of course, that is a different matter.
Except it's the furthest from clean room you can get? It's feeding the original copyrighted materials through a machine and getting equivalent but (usually) distinct material out. It's not like it's only reading documentation and an interface specification and producing an implementation based on that.
maybe somebody should fine tune a llama on the various leaked windows sources...
A bar of what?

It's someone's weekend project, there's absolutely no bar whatsoever.

The project is great imo, I might PR some stuff even.
BART and the Lizzie line aren’t even vaguely comparable.

The Lizzie line is just one line in London. The closest comparable line on the BART system is the yellow line.

The Yellow line seems to operate a maximum of 5 trains/hour, over a distance of 62 miles, at a max speed of 70mph, and still uses a fixed block system.

The Lizzie line in comparison operates 24 trains/hour in its central core, has a total distance of 73miles, a max speed of 90mph, and operates an almost fully automated moving block system in its central core (that how it can achieve 24tph).

The two systems aren’t even in the same league when it comes to capacity, speed or capability.
Also Filelight (KDE)
This open-access paper is pretty interesting with respect to mechanisms of action and how tapinarof differs from other stilbenes and AhR agonists: https://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(17)31543-9/full...

And, yeah, good point re coal tar. AhR was once thought to be a toxin or junk receptor that activated liver enzymes for clearance of environmental waste and other chemical byproducts. The constitutive androstane receptor (CAR) and pregnane X receptor (PXR) were, at one time, thought to be very similar. That might still be the case with respect to PXR and CAR, but I'm thinking that the way to bet is that there's more to them than was once thought...
Because MS bought it. Don't invert the dependencies. MS depends on Free Software, not vice-versa.
UPDATE:

The requirements have been brought down to 1200VA so the APC SMX2000LV (2000VA) seems to be a good choice for UPS. It's much cheaper on Amazon too.

There's a company called mediproducts that offer UPS units for medical equipment but their pricing is opaque at the moment.

Ideally I'd love to chain an affordable battery backup solution like EcoFlow or Anker Solix along with a good APC UPS. But I'm concerned about chaining two sine wave generators (they become sine wave generators when there's a power outage). But I have no clue if that causes any cascading issues or not.
To enter this Free And Open Space you must consent to being held upside down and given a vigorous shake. Any money or valuables that fall from your pockets will belong to us, and go in this big sack marked with a dollar sign.

:)
I think it's fine as a marketing argument, like in the page where you present your product. As much as citing the big names already using it.

What isn't fine is when you try to book an hotel room and you get nagging messages saying that 2849 other people want to book the same room for the same dates. And of course when you try to unsubscribe and you need to pass through marketing material, with or without social proof.
I was/am skeptical also, but a quick Google search found this.

> Testimonials and user feedback usually display positive reviews and lack any negative experiences, or details on services or products. Furthermore, the online environment makes it difficult to differentiate between genuine and fake testimonials.
The Elizabeth line doesn't run a particularly fast long-distance service - it stops at all stations [1] between Reading and London.

If you wanted to go from Reading to somewhere in central London, it would be faster to take a non-stop express which terminates at the edge of central London and then change onto the Elizabeth line than to take it all the way. The service to Reading is more about providing a local service between Reading and its surrounding small towns.

[1] except Iver
Qualcomm's Oryon core: A long time in the making
So outputs are definitely not derivative work of training data, only weights? For this exact code that github is using, anything called "AI", or any computer code at all which produces work based in whole or in part on input data?

And for which jurisdictions has this been established? What is the legal argument that "weights" are derivative but output is not?

I'm surprised it's so clear cut as you say, but I haven't really been following the whole kerfuffle.
If you’re going to take that view, then you need to be comparing the BART system to the entire London Metro system (The Tube, overground, Lizzie line, and suburban rail). There are many services that run parallel to the Lizzie line in central London. But they don’t share track, because that’s a terrible way to operate a metro service.

If you take that approach, then BART looks like a toy compared to its equivalent in London.
People who are here illegally should not be represented because they don't pay income tax. PERIOD. If you are too simple minded to not see how easy it is to commit voter fraud you are not very bright
Consider it's already paid back because it's cheap. The price is only the service free.
> The thing that is misleading is pretending that being open source only makes them $300/month while ignoring the number of customers who chose them because they are open source.

No, that one line without the entire preceeding part of the blog post makes it sound like that. However when the blog post opens with

> That license change has helped us build a sustainable open source project with 8 core team members and several paid external contributors at the time of writing.

It's abundantly clear that they attribute that success to their open core model.
Release != artifact
If those weights are a derivative of GPL'd code in a different form, and the results generate things derived from that derivative, then the generated code is still under license. "How much change is enough" has always been a gray area for courts and humans to decide.

If you can get a decent facsimile of licensed code out the other end, how is it really any different from lossy compression? I doubt the courts would consider a lossy re-encode of a disney movie as free from copyright.
So much of everything marketing and sales is unwanted.
Lifeboat Games and Backscratchers Clubs
>The core is always the user and what they need.

Would reducing copyright duration actually help with that?
I’ve been getting into desktop development with C# and .NET and yeah, the docs are horrendous. It’s not that they‘re not informative, but they leave a lot of important information out (or just give you a step-by-step without explaining what you’re actually doing) and also somehow their servers are incredibly flakey. I get a „this service will be back soon“ message basically every fifth page load, otherwise it just takes 10 seconds or so to navigate.
Like the sibling, I have no problem with keeping multiple windows open and I only have 16GB RAM (MacBook Pro). It must be language extensions or something like that.
> This isn't about your or my use case and/or preferences.

Exactly! This is why Linux kernel does and shall ship with a configuration which supports everything out of the box, even if it's slow. Because it covers everyone's use cases that way.

If you need to trim it down to fit to your system(s), you should be able to do it. Debian has a mechanism called "Targeted Kernel" which removes the modules which won't be used on your system automatically during kernel upgrades.

Nobody is stopping you from doing whatever you want with your system to boot it faster.

For me, I'm fine with the Kernel as is, because some of my servers already take multiple minutes to initialize the plethora of devices on themselves. So a three second delay changes nothing on a system which is rebooted once a month at most.

Same applies to my desktop systems, which are either on or at S3 sleep, which wake in <3 seconds anyway (I wait for the monitor to come back mostly).
Well that one's quite easy. It currently has:

>developed in the late 17th century by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz independently of each other

But yeah other things are trickier. I follow the covid lab origin stuff and that's a bit of a mess.
Using porn sites to enhance your search ranking. SEO = Search engine optimization.
A nuclear accident made Three Mile Island infamous. AI's needs may revive it
And Filelight from KDE - https://apps.kde.org/filelight/
You’re an oppressed night person then. It probably takes your work iq down a few points.

But I really hope the article isn't measuring people who wake up forcefully.
http://archive.today/aFHDS
>If those weights are a derivative of GPL'd code in a different form, and the results generate things derived from that derivative, then the generated code is still under license.

That's not really Microsoft's problem as long as people aren't afraid of using Copilot to generate (potentially GPL'd) code. And from what I've generally seen from genAI discussions at work, people think very little about any legal implications.
I think the author has a much better knowledge of the legal implication of the situations you describe.

These situations might trigger a lot of issues, but none related to copyright. If you work for MS, then move to another company, there is no copyright infringement if you simply generate new code based on whatever you read at MS. There might be some rule regarding non-competitive, etc, but these are not related to copyright.

The very basic question is how the LLM got trained and how it got access to the source. If MS source code would leak, you cannot sue people for reading it.
I've only been to Paris a handful of times and while the system is efficient, a lot of the stations and trains on the metro did have a big problem with human waste. If you see a nearly empty carriage on an otherwise busy train, someone might have done a shit on the floor - learn from my mistake and board another carriage.

London's not without its problems - chiefly for me the ear damaging noise and heat on the Central and Vicky lines - and the awful state of some of the rolling stock and track due to funding decisions made by the central government leading to delays and cancellations. This is extremely bad on the Central line right now, which hopefully changes following the recent election. The liz line, overground & DLR however are pretty great, and other services like Thameslink are pretty good with the exception of poor timetabling on some branches.
20 electoral college votes would swing the elections in ways the Democrats would not like to see. It's a simple matter of motivation. It was a conspiracy that COVID came from Wuhan, Biden didn't have a mental decline, the vaccines weren't effective, etc. How many Ls do you want to take before you realize calling something a conspiracy theory is not a logical argument but an ad hominem due to lack of a rebuttal to evidence clear as day but contrary to your worldview? It doesn't make you dumb to change your world view after more evidence is gathered. WAKE UP
Aye as the sibling comment says it's not guaranteed to happen, I'm considering the worst case scenario outside of collision (needing to move trains that can no longer move themselves, needing to offload and transport stranded passengers, causing further delay, etc)

For what it's worth overconfident guy kicked off an interesting conversation!

It's also quite possible that I'm overcautious and the future will have trains within braking distance of each other and it turns out to be no big deal.

Thoroughly enjoyed thinking about the scenario in any case. Some proper Hacker News brain tickling in this thread :)
I've coded a JPEG compressor. It's clear the output of the machine isn't exactly the same of the input, being lossy, so I guess the output is not protected by copyright either.
EU and Apple settle long-running 'tap-and-go' antitrust probe
I do not notice any difference between my 120Hz work MacBook Pro and my 60Hz home MacBook Air. I might notice if I did a side-by-side comparison and looked closely. But why would I?
> What can you do but laugh and embrace the horror?

laugh. embrace and share the fun with others: submit to https://thedailywtf.com
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We go back several decades, when "computer" meant a person with a pen and paper. The output of those computers could be copyrighted... by the computer, not you.
you could do a one-click unsubscribe, but then set up a website where that button keeps jumping away from your mouse for 20 minutes, while it's showing you uplifting messages why in fact, you should continue with the subscription. Still, only one click!

Or, follow this maze with your mouse pointer until the unsubscribe button in the middle. If you hover-move across a wall, you need to start from the beginning. Good luck!
If the output is substantially similar to GPL’d training data it may be infringing. Nobody disputes this.

However, copyright isn’t cooties. If the output is not similar, then it is not infringing regardless of how much GPL’d training data was used to generate it.
I don't remember ging to the Website and agreeing to anything. I got vscodium from my package manager.
Even with a human speaker, that's not a totally safe assumption, and a certain type of fraudster relies heavily on people making this type of assumption (the likes of L Ron Hubbard in particular liked to use the language of expertise for various fields in a nonsensical way, and this is extremely convincing to a certain sort of person). But LLMs might almost have been designed to exploit this particular cognitive bias; there's really significant danger here.
It seems that the complexity of state management in a modern superscalar CPU is orders of magnitude more complex than even this.
> most of them should be able to build their own service.

Isn't the hard prt the connectivity bit i.e. negotiating with the various telcos? I once saw a telco use a third party SMS vendor for messaging their own customers for an app - because setting it up internally was too much of a hassle.