Oh boy, where shall I even begin. From the top, I guess.

>How is trying to overthrow a democracy an improvement for your country?

Largely a farce narrative, both from the outset and slowly but surely as the courts work their way through all the quagmire.

>Instead we from the outside see people like you, defending and voting for a person who is ostensibly and almost transparently against what are your supposed core values.

>You had 4 years of clear facts on how Trump does not care a single bit about your country if he is not gaining something out of it.

I saw 4 years of North Korea not launching a single missile and even some diplomacy with them, our country not starting any new wars (a god damn miracle), our southern border actually getting secured (relatively speaking), a surging economy pre-covid, FAA getting told to pound sand with their Boeing relationship, Boeing told to GTFO with Air Force One 2 unless they slashed the price (which they did), a lean State Department, and more.

Do I want more? Hell yeah. Wasn't perfect, but what administration ever was?

>You got 4 years of a botched response to a pandemic,

Pretty much every country botched it to varying degrees.

I personally think America was relatively better off because our courts had the guts to rule that long-term abuse of executive emergency powers and other transgressions on Constitutional rights and liberties are not warranted by a pandemic.

>packing your Supreme Court with the likes of Clarence Thomas,

...Do you even know when Justice Thomas was appointed and who nominated him? Appointed in 1991, nominated by George Bush Sr..

That aside, I appreciate having Supreme Court justices who judge based upon the word of the law rather than emotional diatribe like seen from Justice Sotomayor.

>openly corrupt people (Jared Kusher) in higher echelons of government.

Name me one President who didn't have corruption in his cabinet.

>To top it off you are voting for someone who stole secret documents on their way out of the highest position in your government.

So did Biden.

>On top of that you have access to "Project 2025" clearly on the internet, you can read exactly what's the plan for a next Trump government and you are still siding on that.

Heard about it, couldn't care less since it's all just political marketing like similar stuff I've seen in previous elections numerous times.

>There's no "Left" in the USA, the Democrats are not leftists, they might try to appease more with some social policies but they are very clearly not "Left",

Your European political compass is worthless in America, I would suggest re-calibrating that if you want to discuss American politics usefully. Just like my American political compass would be useless when discussing European politics and need re-calibrating.

>if you are a center-conservative but will vote for Trump you are not center anything,

Like I said, I have a choice between the Left (who might also be senile if things don't change) or the Right; and with the Left moving further left every year I am, for better or worse, left to relate more closely to the Right so they get my vote.

>you are supporting a brazen antagoniser of democracy, I don't believe that's a centrist position at all, you've been consumed into the Overton window and has a very clear misguided belief.

The Overton Window left me on account of moving lefter and lefter, as I keep repeating at least twice now.

>I took note of a past comment from you this week about love being a mental illness, I didn't have to check your history for that because the sadness of that comment got stuck in my mind.

So you honestly think you can make a statement about someone off of just one comment? Stunning.

I call romantic love a mental illness because it compels you to do things that defy logic and common sense, especially when seen in hindsight. That's the brain not working right, that's an illness of the mind, a mental illness.

If you think that's sad, more power to you. I'm a happy man.

>Mid-30s is definitely not a "geezer",

YMMV, but I'm feeling the rapid onset of physical aging already to say nothing of mental exhaustion. I'm nowhere as energetic as I was in my 20s.

>Your rejection of experts, or intellectualism is another very sad aspect,

If there's anything the past 8 years have taught me, it's that most "experts" spew bullshit and most examples of intellectualism aren't all that intelligent. I'm very aware of the limits of my own knowledge and understanding, and it is precisely because of that I reject peddlers of false knowledge and information who will only waste my precious time.

In case I'm not clear: There are experts and intellectuals worth listening to, I am saying most claimed examples actually are not.

>You are part of a society, built upon people who cared about improving it over many generations, if taking part on that is no good reason for you, please just don't vote.

I take part in society plentifully, though probably not in ways you want me to. That's fine, you mind your business and I will mine.

If you guys keep on resenting America (the context for this whole sub-thread), sooner or later we really will get tired of the whining and just go have beer somewhere else.

It wouldn't be the first time America wanted nothing to do with Europe either, so be aware it's more likely than you think even without all the prodding. We will always bend over backwards to help out the United Kingdom (our mom!), but the rest of Europe? Stop pressing your luck.