skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Skim a few paragraphs and that's plenty, time to share your thoughts with the internet...

Some articles posted to HN have poor enough quality that reading a few paragraphs is all they deserve. The false premise is usually evident from the first paragraphs, and there's no reason to read further (unless it's one of those articles where the author changes their mind through a long exposition).
> won't make sense if you're not fluent in both English and online culture.

I am not fluent in either and I'm in love with his style and substance!
This is an ARM issue, not a Windows one. Same reason Linux needs device tree overlays.
only if they are interested in communicating to people who don't like the us government
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort, why does Tesla trigger people so easily?
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Anyone that thinks that English is optimized for communication hasn’t tried to communicate optimally.

But as a tool primarily for generating usually suboptimal cooperation, occasional but reliable levels of conflict, and not all that rarely the conditions for murder, I’ll grant you.
I found Hypermedia Systems to be useful. Bought the hard copy as support/thank you to the authors, but the entire book is free online at hypermedia.systems. The documentation & essays on htmx.org further explain what you see in the book.

htmx is a straightforward, simple-to-implement javascript library that brings HATEOAS to the top of your development mindset. You can disagree with the HATEOAS philosophy, but the reasoning and purpose of the approach is clearly and professionally explained by the authors.

Yes, the gorilla marketing on x.com may rub some the wrong way, but frankly, it's fun. Humor and a useful product, with a deep rationale & good documentation, are wins in my book.
I think my replies to JumpCrisscross would help clarify a lot for them, however I'm uncertain they'll see - or bother reading my comments - since they were recently successful in helping flag/get other comments of mine blocked; maybe they also setup their forum to hide-block all comments from me?

Maybe reply to them and link my comments so they'll be at least aware there's a more thorough explanation-history shared with them?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40734834
&
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40734859
No need for foreign operatives, we do it ourselves.

We treat thumbs up/down as agree/disagree, whether we're supposed to or not.
Yep, the difference is that ML doesn’t have the cultural legacy of the AI concept and thus isn’t as marketable.
>> RAG pipelines with your data

FTA

"Everyone is talking about Retrieval Augmented Generation, but most companies don't actually have any internal documentation worth retrieving. Fix. Your. Shit."

> 5. Code generation /Review

FTA

"If another stupid motherfucker asks me to try and implement LLM-based code review to "raise standards" instead of actually teaching people a shred of discipline, I am going to study enough judo to throw them into the goddamn sun.

I cannot emphasize this enough. You either need to be on the absolute cutting-edge and producing novel research, or you should be doing exactly what you were doing five years ago with minor concessions to incorporating LLMs. Anything in the middle ground does not make any sense unless you actually work in the rare field where your industry is being totally disrupted right now."

The man trots out his bonified's at the start and in the article. He's inside and backing up that rage.
Urine Deflector
It would be nice to read an article about this from an econ standpoint. Is it really possible for this yieldstar “algorithm” to convince independent actors to agree to lower their occupancy rate in return for higher average income? It seems like they’re analogizing this to a monopoly, where one entity controls all the assets so it can raise prices and still sell. But in this case if you’re one landlord at 80% occupancy with high prices, it’s a prisoners dilemma and you’d just make more money if you lowered rates a bit.

I guess one explanation would be that yieldstar had leverage over the landlords. If it said “it’s all or nothing, either you blindly follow our pricing model or you are on your own” then perhaps the benefits outweigh the costs. But that’s not the claim in these lawsuits though, they’re just arguing that “landlords used the algorithm price 90% of the time”. This might just be indicative that the algorithm is good at pricing housing.

Asa side note, the article covers another explanation for high vacancy rates - developers building huge apartments with loan structures that have penalties if rents don’t hit targets. So they’d rather leave units unoccupied and stay in business instead of lowering rents to make money. But why would the lenders agree to such a stupid structure? I don’t know if I can believe that either.

Overall I’m inclined to believe a simpler story that inflation has been really high, housing demand outpaced supply, and yieldstar helped determine optimal prices in this dynamic market.

As for why occupancy % has gone down, I think it’s a really specific story of how these new huge “luxury” (in extreme quotes) buildings are managed. They just try to keep liquidity high so that they can rent out 3-6 months in advance, which high-payers really like.

From a pro publica article on the same story:

“Such agents sometimes hesitated to push rents higher. Roper said they were often peers of the people they were renting to. “We said there’s way too much empathy going on here,” he said. “This is one of the reasons we wanted to get pricing off-site.”

This man should be shot
> conscious entity with willpower and self preservation

There’s no good reason to suspect that consciousness implies an instinct for self-preservation. There are plenty of organisms with an instinct for self-preservation that have little or no conscious awareness.
I need to combine CDROMs so that they form a radar reflector. With lots of 90 degree corners. Preferably a folding radar reflector. Some attending Origami Master might have solutions that are less obvious and simpler than just cutting them into 90 degrees slices?
Same. The two big stresses as an IC are "I have a difficult problem and I might need to ask for help or admit I can't do it, but there's no deadline closer than the end of the day" and "Production is on fire, which means I get to feel like a hero for a few hours and then do a writeup begging for time to fix our stupid problems." Stressful, but not too scary since there were no other humans involved.

When I briefly tried to manage my own team the problem was, "The whole team is staring at me during this boring-ass meeting and it turns out the company's problems are not something I can solve as quick as I thought I could"

Letting down customers is stressful, too. When we had big customers quit I took it kinda personally.

A lot of hubris involved I guess
TL;DR: Do you have a stance on HN's change in culture?

It seems like HN comments are shifting from technical focus toward:

* Early Reddit's low-effort but tame "snark"

* Aggressively moralizing posts dismissing sardonic criticism as dangerous mental illness

I haven't seen much of OP's style lately, especially since n-gate[1] went inactive.

I'm wondering whether that's a bad thing. Although the tone is hostile on the surface, there's usually some aspiration toward competence associated with it.

[1]: http://n-gate.com/
> This Gentoo setup has /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, and /usr/sbin all merged.

I hope this isn't going to be the norm in the future, but Gentoo has been making my life difficult for years as it is... it's as if the developers don't test or use what they are forcing on everyone.
Yeah, happens everytime. Remember when people were promising blockchain but had nothing to show for it (sometimes, not even an idea)? Or "cloud powered" for apps that barely made API calls? Remember when every and anything needed an app, even if it was just some static food menu?

It's obvious BS from anyone in tech, but the people throwing money aren't in tech.

>I think the term AI is going to slowly become less marketing trendy, and will fade out over time, as all trendy marketing terms do. What will be left are actually useful enhancements to specific use cases - most of which will probably be referred to by a word other than AI.

it'll die down, but the marketing tends to stick, sadly. we'll have to deal with if AI means machine learning or LLMs or video game pathfinding for decades to come.
They actually cover quite a bit more than that, those are just the public areas today. They have employee operations going down the peninsula, for example.
I’ve been doing just fine ignoring AI altogether and focusing on my thing. I only have one life. Fridman had a guy on his podcast a while ago, I don’t remember his name, but he studies human languages, and the way he put it was the best summary of the actual capabilities I’ve heard so far. Very refreshing.
Fair!

But there's a pretty big swath of cities between {Cheesecake Factory} and {Manhattan}.
My observation regarding prices:

resistor - $.10.

resistor for Arduino: $10.00
In the beginning I think some, if not many, people did genuinely think it was "AI". It was the closest we've ever gotten to a natural language interface and that genuinely felt really different than anything before, even to an extreme cynic. And I also think there's many people that want us to develop AI and so were trying to actively convince themselves that e.g. GPT or whatever was sentient. Maybe that Google engineer who claimed an early version of Bard was "sentient" even believed himself (though I still suspect that was probably just a marketing hoax).

It's only now that everybody's used to natural language interfaces that I think we're becoming far less forgiving of things like this nonsense:

---

- "How do I do (x)."

- "You do (A)."

- "No, that's wrong because reasons."

- "Oh I'm sorry you're 100% right. Thank you for the correction. I'll keep that in mind in the future. You do (B)."

- "No that's also wrong because reasons."

- "Oh I'm sorry you're 100% right. Thank you for the correction. I'll keep that in mind in the future. You do (A)."

- #$%^#$!!#$!

---
We'll never substantially increase our energy demand if we don't reduce our energy cost. And since nuclear is horrendously expensive, it won't scale.
> It seems like most of the comment thread failed to pick up on this.

At that point, is it a problem of most of the comment thread, or the way it was written?

I may say something that comes across really snarky to my coworker. Just because I didn't mean it to be snarky does not mean that it won't be interpreted that way.

Also, I have a feeling a lot of the comment thread are fluent in both English and online culture. This doesn't come across as a good-faith argument.

It's like I say something that comes across as snarky, my coworker confronts me about it, and I say "oh don't worry about it, if you came from low-context culture you would understand." It's very demeaning. Not to mention unsympathetic.
Directly, as a substitute for more labour intensive sources like manure, compost or crop rotation.

Indirectly by increasing yield per acre per day.
You are describing “branding”.
To start from scratch, we need to start with big bang!
This just shows that life is really transient. Life circumstances change, so we probably shouldn't be dogmatic.

Frankly 90% of people probably are not cut out to be entrepreneurs because it requires certain qualities.
Go back further:

At a point in time the database was a bleeding edge technology.

Ingres (Postgres)... (the ofspring of Stonebreaker), Oracle, ... Db2? MSSQL? (Heavily used but not common)... So many failed DB's along the way, people keep trying to make "new ones" and they seem to fade off.

When was the last time you heard someone starting a new project with Mongo, or Hadoop? Postgres and Maria are the go to for a reason.
While i agree with what he's said, its really a very violent read, I wish it wasnt so.

Also, I attend an online Microsoft meeting every week where they inform the attending community about all the new changes and technology coming from MS.

I'm utterly sick and tired of hearing about "AI" and Co-Pilot from them. every. signle. meeting. is 90% AI/Co-pilot.

I'm over it. I'm burnt out on it as a product.
> Water is incredible.

You could say that again! The more I observe and understand properties of water the more fascinating it gets.

For example, the minutest of leakages can cause a havoc in a building. That’s why I get extremely nervous when I see damp walls.

Or take flowing water. What looks like a gentle stream could easily sweep away a few tons of bus. Often times vehicle drivers misjudge this to drive through a shallow rain stream and end up in a whole lot of trouble.
> Merryl Streep ad 30 years ago where she's washing broccoli with soap..

???
Fair, ad hominems are indeed not very convincing. Though I do think everyone should read his papers through a lens of "having a very high h-index seems to be a driving force behind this man".

Moving on, my main issue is that it is mostly speculation, as all such papers will be. We do not understand how intelligence works in humans and animals, and most of this paper is an attempt to pretend otherwise. We certainly don't know where the exact divide between humans and animals is and what causes it, which I think is hugely important to developing AGI.

As a concrete example, in the first few paragraphs he makes a point about how a human can learn to drive in ~20 hours, but ML models can't drive at that level after countless hours of training. First you need to take that at face value, which I am not sure you should. From what I have seen, the latest versions of Tesla FSD are indeed better at driving than many people who have only driven for 20 hours.

Even if we give him that one though, LeCun then immediately postulates this is because humans and animals have "world models". And that's true. Humans and animals do have world models, as far as we can tell. But the example he just used is a task that only humans can do, right? So the distinguishing factor is not "having a world model", because I'm not going to let a monkey drive my car even after 10,000 hours of training.

Then he proceeds to talk about how perception in humans is very sophisticated and this in part is what gives rise to said world model. However he doesn't stop to think "hey, maybe this sophisticated perception is the difference, not the fundamental world model". e.g. maybe Tesla FSD would be pretty good if it had access to taste, touch, sight, sound, smell, incredibly high definition cameras, etc. Maybe the reason it takes FSD countless training hours is because all it has are shitty cameras (relative to human vision and all our other senses). Maybe linear improvements in perception leads to exponential improvement in learning rates.

Basically he puts forward his idea, which is hard to substantiate given we don't actually understand the source of human-level intelligence, and doesn't really want to genuinely explore (i.e. steelman) alternate ideas much.

Anyway that's how I feel about the first third of the paper, which is all I've read so far. Will read the rest on my lunch break. Hopefully he invalidates the points I just made in the latter 2/3rds.
I mean, when you put it that way black holes as a whole are a mere theory. A theory used to explain gravitational fluctuations and the odd lack of mass in the universe (which still wasn't fully solved and are currently dabbling with dark matter to further fine tune results).
May I point you to the "Compliments" section of his blog, in your search for self-deprecating.
The thinking is that you clean the food before eating it.
“Is your issue with my tone or what I am saying? Because I will only apologize for the former”
I remember using those features in Puppy around 2010. Never even heard of MX...

https://pendrivelinux.com/ is still around I see
A lot of stupid people are destructive and evil too. And a lot of animals are even more destructive and violent. Bacteria are totally amoral and they’re not at all intelligent (and if we’re counting they’re winning in the killing people stakes).
Perplexity AI Is Lying About Their User Agent
After the AI Winter, people started calling it ML to avoid the stigma.

Eventually ML got pretty good and a lot of the industry forgot the AI winter, so we're calling it AI again because it sounds cooler.
I'd like to think that AI right now is basically a placeholder term, like a search keyword or hot topic and people are riding the wave to get attention and clicks.

Everything that is magic will be labeled under AI for now, until it gets seated into their proper terms and are only closely discussed by those who are actually driving innovation in the space or are just casually using the applications in business or private.
Rare was intended to refer to "the monitoring of CT logs". The CA system doesn't protect against an adversary who has physical control of your system.
This it's incredible if you keep in mind it's just gonna find the most "common" words that come alongside your query in some jobbled together answer
A little bit of Maddox, a little bit of BOFH.
i agree with all of the points just wish it wasn't couched in a "maddox / best page in the universe" writing style, circa 2007. can't be writing like that in 2024
> to mean anything and their opposite.

That totally sucks.

Or maybe it blows.

Hard to know for sure.
I think he's polarizing because he's right about the industry and everybody on both sides knows it. Many people in the industry are just selling snake oil. There's also a ton of idiots such as the people who misconfigure cloud software to waste half a million dollars of company money. A truth teller comes off as an a-hole to people who don't want particular truths to be told.
One article was written using reporting from China, the article was submitted by a correspondent based in China. There’s a world of difference.
Done right, the rant is mostly a style of expression easily adapted to making clear contrasts. If you can make it work, I say go for it.
This has been one of the best books I've read about web development!
Getting persistence to work is a giant PITA lol I was doing it for work once and kept having problems. We used RUFUS, a Windows-only tool to make the drives. Making a new drive required Windows to format it, then Linux to copy the files, before it was usable. What a dumb process. I didn't use block-level imaging because I wanted to add new files easily or expand them to different drive sizes easily or something.
I know why I no longer have a mildly dynamic website: the security risk of PHP is not linear.

That’s where Javascript shines: if you avoid comments (those are actually a hard problem: a social one) and server-side data (security risk), it actually has this linear increase in effort without the jump in security risk.

And this risk has increased a lot since the early mildly dynamic websites.
I mean, surely share holders would want a safe superintelligence rather than unsafe ones, right?

I'd imagine everyone being dead would be pretty detrimental to the economy.
Awesome. Best rant I’ve read since Zed Shaw’s “Rails is a Ghetto” back in 2008.
If you want to understand how well suicide prevention programs work, try being suicidal and calling the number plastered on bridges and railway level crossings and waiting and waiting for someone to answer, which they don’t because it’s a Sunday and and you’re in a country where everyone gets the day off because of a historical bias towards a purported god that also isn’t there to answer.

By the way, a lot of people experience intrusive suicidal thoughts simply because those are a significant symptom of almost every major mental health disorder that’s associated with childhood trauma. The “why” they do so can be chalked up to either a bug in the human brain’s survival mechanism or bug in how society responds to childhood trauma. I lean towards the latter.
> This post has an unnecessarily aggressive style

Im not sure its "unnecessary".

He is, very clearly venting into an open mic. He starts with his bonfides (a Masters, he's built the tools not just been an API user). He adds more through out the article (talking about peers).

His rants are backed by "anecdotes"... I can smell the "consulting" business oozing off them. He cant really lay it out, just speak in generalities... And where he can his concrete examples and data are on point.

I dont know when angry became socially unacceptable in any form. But he is just that. He might have a right to be. You might have the right to be as well in light of the NONSENSE our industry is experiencing.

Maybe its time to let the AI hate flow though you...
Yeah, this is pretty spot on, unfortunately.

Most people don't really comprehend how much money there is in the hands of people at the top that just... falls down to whatever random stuff those people are getting worked up about at the moment. The vast majority of it ends up being nonproductive and it really does get allocated based on what those people see in their Twitter feeds. This is a much more pronounced problem than it was 20 years ago because of all the money printing governments have done, in general if you are connected to the government and banks, you will be the largest beneficiary of that type of action. None of this stuff is really subjected to market economics, it either flows through some kind of government/NGO bureaucracy or from someone who controls a monopoly or something similar to one. The waste and inefficiency in this modern pseudo-command-economy is mind blowing to behold.
> What projects have Googlers contributed to?

Android, Chromium, Angular, Dart, Linux, Kubernetes, AV1 ... that's off the top of my head. Googles contributions to open source are up there. The other mob that don't get near enough credit for their open source contributions IMO is Facebook.

The only one I know of from Apple is CUPS. They left it as most open source after they bought it. There are undoubtedly others, but compared to Google who open sources the bulk of products they ship (such as Chromium and Android), there is no comparison.
«If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe» - Carl Sagan
Discussion (614 points, 4 days ago, 528 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40690898
https://academic.oup.com/chicago-scholarship-online/book/173...

In 1989, Meryl Streep became the celebrity spokesperson for a Natural Resources Defense Council campaign to publicize the risks of pesticides and chemicals applied to food, especially the danger of Alar-laced apples consumed by young children.
We should be less concerned about super intelligence and more about the immediate threat of job loss. An AI doesn’t need to be Skynet to wreak massive havoc on society. Replacing 20% of jobs in a very short period of time could spark global unrest resulting in WW3
> the bulk of the interactivity of SPAs can be achieved via hypertext alone

except that with htmx the backend is supposed to return htmx markup, so now the hypertext is smeared between two systems. this lack of separation is the main thing holding me back from using it in any serious effort.

it feels like the "full stack dev" problem writ large. should my backend devs also be experts in front end? should my front end devs be digging into backend code? I'm a generalist myself but it's not reasonable to expect everyone to be a generalist, nor does it make good business sense.

then there's the backend-for-frontend argument, which the manager in me always reads as "we need to double the number of backend services". it's a bit hyperbolic but still.