skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Let me play devil's advocate for a second. Let's suppose that with LLMs, we've actually invented an AGI machine that also happens to produce useful textual responses to a prompt.

This would sound more far-fetched if we knew exactly how they work, bit-by-bit. We've been training them statistically, via the data-for-code tradeoff. The question is not yet satisfactorily answered.

In this hypothetical, for every accusation that an LLM passes a test because it's been coached to do so, there's a counter that it was designed for "excessively human" AGI to begin with, maybe even that it was designed for the unconscious purpose of having humans pass it preferentially. The attorney for the hypothetical AGI in the LLM would argue that there are tons of "LLM AGI" problems it can solve that a human would struggle with.

Fundamentally, the tests are only useful insofar as they let us improve AI. The evaluation of novel approaches to pass them like this one should err in the approaches' favor, IMO. A 'gotcha' test is the least-useful kind.
Normal folks get fired for "mistakes" like this. Oligarchs don't.
Oh, I meant false claims about HN moderation, like the GP comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711123 ("The mods suppress anything that makes YC or anything they invest in look bad"). That wasn't just completely made up, it's the exact opposite of the truth.

My comment originally included that explicitly, but I was trying to edit it down a bit and thought this would be clear from the context. Since it wasn't, I've added an edit there now.
All the underlying claims by the author really need the sources referenced.
Weird that they have just announced a partnership with ANZ Bank in Australia to offer the same BNPL service in Australia[1]

[1] https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/apple-to-dr...
The only way to make collectivism work is being a force monopolist / military dictatorship.
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I dunno if it’s outrage-worthy, but the silent evolution of the YC blog post on Sam’s departure was weird, and nobody involved—particularly pg in his recent comments meant to be definitive—has managed to explain why that went down the way it did.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38384090
And: people want things to keep improving, for themselves and others.
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https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
You called the story “flimsy.” How so?
He moved into the Uni sector, according to Wiki.
Isn’t SGX mostly used for DRM, remote attestation, and other anti-consumer stuff in practice today?

I haven’t came across a use case of SGX that benefits me.
I think warning labels should come with a warning:

Relying on warning labels to determine your actions can be hazardous to your health.
it sounds like you didn't read very much of my comment, because you didn't understand what my argument was about, even as a vague outline

separately, you say, 'I think it is fundamentally dishonest to point to a Pulitzer Prize winning photograph as any sort of representative example of "child porn".' however, the thing you think is dishonest is something you made up, not something i said, suggested, implied, or agree with
The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research is an American conservative think tank focused on domestic policy and urban affairs. It was established in Manhattan in 1978 by Antony Fisher and William J. Casey.

William Joseph Casey was an American lawyer who was the Director of Central Intelligence from 1981 to 1987.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy...

ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey
In my mind, this implies that the vast majority of customers are not deadbeats - meaning they never pay off their cards in full and always have interest?
This tool is amazing. Thank you for sharing it!
I think it's more like humans are a chaotic choir of subsystems all doing their thing and tossing up their directives until some sort of "win" happens or the volume is loud enough in some direction that it then gets reverse engineered into a "thought". But yes.
massive technical debt
create more abstractions
create paid tools.. to solve the problems that they created

Ouroboros worked so well for k8s!
The author of this article evidently is ignorant to the current state of the world. Simply having the existence of a group become no longer illegal doesn't mean that rights are guaranteed at all. Groups advocating for women's and LGBTQI rights have continued to exist despite advances because groups working to undo everything they have achieved also continue to exist. There is obvious evidence of this - women's and LGBTQIA rights have gone backwards definitively both in the US and UK and are unambiguously in a much worse state than they were 10 years ago.

This is quasi-intellectual bullshit written by a contrarian who fails to identify that social systems are dynamic, and evidently has a bias informing this (cough cough, certain pejorative terms throughout). This is spun as some sort of centrist triumph, but this is really the true voice of regression - if we stop advocating for the rights of groups who actively have their rights under attack by others, they will simply lose whatever has been achieved.

It is a somewhat interesting point w.r.t. the Dimes syndrome itself in whatever limited cases it might actually apply, however I would argue that this article is working overtime to misappropriate the term to advocate for silencing progress (while not ever implying that anti-rights groups should be seen the same).
I feel like grandparent poster probably doesn't know the upsides of IPv6.
So check this study out[1] it uses the Dutch hunger winter families cohort day as a starting point, but uses a web based form to follow up on obesity. This is obviously not going to yield great results. And the findings show that only the adult children of famine exposed fathers are more likely to be obese which seems a little add. It has nearly 600 citations.

My criticism is that a lot of studies based on the data to lazy things like this, draw big conclusions, and get a lot of citations but there just isn’t much to them.

[1] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C39&q=%E2...

Wooos, posted the wrong link earlier. https://obgyn.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1471-0...
Well, if you weren’t asking for assistance, then why use something that ultimately comes down to personal preference as an example of an OS feature not working the way it objectively “should”?

I mean, I’d argue that the way Windows does it is illogical and confusing, and if I used Windows regularly I’d want a plugin to make window switching work the way it does on MacOS, which I find far more convenient. But that doesn’t make the way Windows does it objectively wrong, and it wouldn’t justify my irritation at the OS not working the way I would prefer it to.

All of the issues you’ve described are limited to your particular use case, and as has been pointed out by myself and others, are easily solvable with a relatively inexpensive program. So your entire argument really boils down to “I don’t like the way MacOS does something by default, but fortunately it’s an easy and cheap fix so it’s not really a huge deal”.
I think it's "kind of" because part of the problem is intrinsic; if you're trying to detect reflections, and you're not even reliable with light skin 100% of the time, it says that there's some inherent difficulty here.

You realize it's biased when you think about it and realize the product could never have successfully shipped if it offered white people the poor reliability that it has for darker skin.
I always wonder how animals that aren't raised by parents know various things...like why do predators know bright colors are a 'warning' if they don't have parents to teach them? How do spiders know what their web 'should' look like (spider webs come in multiple styles...)

People say 'instinct' by never mention what that means or how it works :-P
Yep. For all of the complexity they were popularly renowned for at the time, that era of bimmer is ridiculously easy to diagnose and fix, and generally all very well-documented. It has weak spots (like the entirety of the cooling system), but they're all well-known and understood. The rest is solid.

And because every part is indexed in the BMW ETK, it's simple (and actually usually very cheap) to find very high quality parts from the original source using BMW part numbers, and sidestep the usual quagmire of globalized aftermarket trash that AutoZone sells.

It's a whole different way of doing things compared to, say, a Chevy or Honda of similar vintage.
The author of the article is writing this

for a conservative think tank

started by a CIA director.

ref: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40712550#40713116
> Ok but you’re still making the same point. You can’t have something cheap with a white glove CS experience for every caller.

That is my point.

The "cheap with a white glove CS experience" is a completely shit experience. If you can't afford to pay for real customer support then either raise your prices or go bankrupt.

Building a business without providing customer support should not ever be a valid business model.
Try thinking through other comparisons to understand the difference: if I find a bug in the power grid, how do I cash out? There aren’t many buyers, it’s really hard to move a lot of cash without getting caught, and if I use any other electronic system I have to pay a ton of money to get help laundering it because the risks are so high. Criminal outfits in Asia play games trying to get gift cards or things like that but it’s hard to scale and a lot of their dupes here get caught.

Contrast that with cryptocurrency where a bunch of VC money pumped up a market for you to launder the proceeds and the protocols are intentionally designed not to have antifraud protections. Ransomware was possible a decade earlier but the profitability went up massively once it became easy to launder millions rather than hundreds of dollars.
Exactly. I'm willing to bet that the US may not be the number one country in terms of entrepreneurship, but it's certainly not at the bottom.
Well, as I expected, templating is the hardest part of migrating to htmx on nodejs.

After reviewing few templaters/etc (handlebars, ejs, lit-html, virtual-dom) and few abstractions (html``, just ``, h()), barely anything seems too easy and too freedom-y. Arcane syntaxes, high character noise (ejs, lit, js), lack of typing (all non-`` based), trivial screw ups (virtual-dom, handlebars), experimental status (lit ssr). Sigh.
its LLM grade school. let them cook, train these things to match utility in our world. I'm not married to the "AGI" goal if there is other utility along the way.
The "cousin you don't want to be like" is someone with an electrical engineering degree at 21?
> Researchers inside the AI unit have told colleagues they’re proud of their advances on Gemini, such as its “context window,” the amount of information the system can analyze at once. This is particularly useful to a company whose enormous amount of data is one of its key competitive advantages.

what does a large context window have anything to do with google's data moat?
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/math/BigDecim...

> Note: care should be exercised if BigDecimal objects are used as keys in a SortedMap or elements in a SortedSet since BigDecimal's natural ordering is inconsistent with equals. See Comparable, SortedMap or SortedSet for more information.

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/math/BigDecim...

> Compares this BigDecimal with the specified Object for equality. Unlike compareTo, this method considers two BigDecimal objects equal only if they are equal in value and scale (thus 2.0 is not equal to 2.00 when compared by this method).

equals remains object comparisons.

Consider the problem if `2.0` and `2.00` returned true for equals call and they were keys to a HashMap - you'd only be able to put one of them in there.

https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/blob/master/src/java.base/sha...
Possibly

I think we need those pieces, and also a piece for determining hypotheses in an efficient manner. Monte Carlo Tree Search could be that piece. Probabilistically choose a node to search, and then backpropagate the probabilities back to the root node.
When you peer into the soul of the machine it delicately resolves to `while(1){...}`. All Hail The REPL.
> It is no longer enough for conservative Christians to tolerate same-sex marriage—now they must be legally required to bake cakes and design web pages for the weddings.

Isnt it enough that we can no longer lynch gay people with impunity? now they want to be treated as though they are "normal"?

> But however much the backlash has hurt the original cause, the controversies keep activists in business.

People getting married want to be able to buy wedding cakes! This is a serious controversy!

I can certainly see why Hacker News is upmodding this important piece of Christian Nationalist fascist trash and even commenting on it as though this literal sewer of an article is worth actual discussion and not complete ridicule, what would become of America if bigotry wasn't cool anymore?
One time I was at a mall with my dad. There was a nice new car on display and he wanted to go look at it. The salesman said if Dad filled out a postcard to register to win, we could sit in the car and check it out. Dad took the card and filled it out as “Tom” something-or-another. I watched this and kept my mouth shut.

Afterward I asked him about it. He laughed. Tom was Dad’s favorite cousin’s ex-husband. Whenever something like this came up, Dad would give them Tom’s info. He’d been doing this for years, and occasionally updated the address as needed.

Dad’s no longer with us but I still Tom up for things to this day. Should I ever start getting SiriusXM spam, so will Tom.
> it's the exact opposite of the truth.

One can hardly call it the exact opposite of the truth if the feared downweighting of this post actually happened.

It's commendable that it was corrected and that you are attempting to be transparent. But, it sure creates the appearance of a self-protective attempt to moderate.
Indeed, there are two types of people in that regard, whose mind is blown (usually) that there is another type. One thinks in words, one has no words but a smooth stream of thought going.
Yes, and I'm sure the director had that perspective too - that it would have been weird to show a cutaway scene across the world. I suppose just the lack of depicting any human consequences of the bombing was what irked me, I think it could have been done creatively if he wanted to.
I wonder if the copyright covers all female gendered Pac-Man characters?

I can't imagine the IP is so precious that consumers wouldn't accept a "pac-sis" sister in her place or some doughy-eyed infant version "pac-girl" with a pacifier and bib.

I'd have to assume such obvious derivatives are covered. But maybe not?

edit, apparently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Pac-Man right ... where's that IP now?

Also this is apparently some wild hybrid where you can flow between pinball and the video screen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEX7TqjW3nU
More hookups doesn't necessarily lead to more kids.

Also the work ethic / work life balance in Japan is really screwed up. I think those are more likely reasons.
stops the attack from happening from those ips?
Yeah but if my brother can't pass it, that doesn't mean he is NOT human.
I think it would be interesting to arrange a similar situation with three chatbots, by prompting each that they should assume the role of someone famous, e.g. Taylor Swift, and prove to the other two that they are not. Or expose the other two as human operators and not LLMs.
It's no coincidence that after Adobe introduced a subscription in 2013 that this was the inflection point in which the stock grew 10x over the following decade. The previous decade it only grew 3x.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ADBE/
A few years ago I ran a gambit with my wife's lightroom subscription. We kept cancelling and getting confirmations that we had cancelled but they kept charging our card. Eventually I had to get screenshots of a chat conversation between myself and Adobe where the Adobe rep suggested I send our correspondence to my credit card company and have them put a block on it. Lol
What mistake? It’s an immaterial S1 for a SPAC. I don’t believe anyone including the advisors filing this would get in trouble.
It could exist many times. People can fork and clone the repo. People are likely to copy the examples and share them online.
I was on the receiving end of an automated version of this. However, when I looked into it, it seemed the problem (SPF record required more than 10 DNS lookups) was fairly common. I don't seem to have any other deliverability problems and my email and DNS is managed by some big hosting company so I assume it's not a real problem and didn't fix it.
> The real problem is that Altman has legitimately destroyed public trust.

This might seem true in our technical buble, but most of the public probably has no idea who he is. They try ChatGPT for a work task and think it's amazing and love it.

I've seen this happen many times, and once one person in a small team/company tries it, everyone else starts using it and they also love it. These people don't know what OpenAI or who Sam Altman is and there hasn't been any trust broken because ChatGPT works for them.
Indeed. It's just a cash-grab device exploiting nostalgia.

The software it uses, amiberry, is open source and was made for the more powerful, useful and common Raspberry Pi boards. Getting one of these is a much better idea.
The claim was repeated on the website of the SPAC itself until the story ran. And the SPAC is run by… Sam Altman.
One of the things I like about Crystal is how utterly painless it is to call C library functions.
> You asked: why should we treat these two cases differently?

I wasn't asking why we care about the treatment of humans. I was pointing out that your original argument makes no sense, because of what it would mean if you applied it to humans. You then responded with a different argument about humans and AIs being different, which - regardless of its merits in its own right - in no way relates to your original one and does nothing to rescue it.
Surely it can only calculate its current position, calculating its future positions would seem to require a divination machine.
Kinda, but NATO is (imho) more about external threats. I think part of the EU's founding vision was to prevent further intra-European wars, in which it has been largely successful.
Yes, I take your point and would have preferred the original downweight to be less for that reason. (Edit: I checked with the mod and originally it was - see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40720026. It looks like user flags made the difference.)

Different mods inevitably make different calls sometimes, though. That doesn't change the fundamental practice, which has been stable for a long time (long before I took over HN long ago).

One thing I often point out in these situations is that "moderate less" (which is what the rule calls for) is not the same thing as "not moderating at all". Most probably the mod in this case was thinking along the lines of "I'm still moderating less in this case than we normally would, but I'll check with dang just in case".
How is the typical person supposed to decide the best path of care? How do you incentivize competition while keeping standards of care up so that people receive good care with highly complex tradeoffs.
If you're in a position to choose not to undervolt, you're not vulnerable.
Agree 100%. Photoshop is a great product. That doesn't mean that Adobe can follow dark practices to cancel subscriptions.
That's wild - I am clearly the first sort, because I cannot imagine what "a smooth stream of thought" would even be if it were not expressed in words.
I get iterators of this yield-sort, in other languages.

I still grumble every time I have to implement one. Something about the interface just bothers me. Feels sloppy.
Prize money meant people would more cleverly strain the rule that "the private test set stays private, no GPT4o, Claude etc.", as shown by the TFA.

This sort of idea would then be shared openly on new sites, creating more attempts. Fallout I did not anticipate was getting widespread attentional on general tech news sites, and then getting public comment from a prize co-founder confirming it was acceptable.
Nice site, good luck with the SEO growth! I just checked in semrush and the keyword result is growing quite consistenly, keep up the good work!
No, but them making marijuana illegal and putting people in prison for it didn't really stop millions of people from having regular access to it.

And it'll be the same here in this context. If the government wants to make drones illegal because people are using them domestically for vigilante/terrorism purposes that'll be quite difficult.

People regularly ran clandestine grow operations that used 100kw+ of power for years and were never caught. If there's a desire for drones to commit crimes than someone will easily be able to make a clandestine drone factory.
> Fast forward a decade and that $19.99/mo product has become $89.99/mo and the value prop has plummeted on top of it.

Counterpoint - most management teams undersell their sales relative to what the market is willing to pay them. Adobe is figuring out where that local maxima is (still).

> they are just moving to different ecosystems -- procreate, davinci, foxit, etc.

Are they though? Source?

These figures would suggest otherwise:

Year Active Subscribers

2013 1.4 million
2017 12.0 million
2020 19.5 million
2021 22.0 million
2022 24.5 million
2024 29.5 million

https://photutorial.com/adobe-statistics/
This is sort of the chicken and egg question though. You're basically asking if pre-human primates had language, which plausibly they did, and so consequently did the first humans who were their descendants. But somebody was the first whether they were homo sapiens or not.
I can't access it in Australia either.
Is this not a renaming or specialized case of the Iron Law of Institutions? Any non-profit, government, or commercial organization foremost concern is preserving the institution. If solving a problem (like GE creating a lightbulb that never burns out) would reduce the important/power of the people in the organization, then that path is avoided at all costs.
These are all excellent elucidations of classic mechanical principles making it hard. I'm not sure they're enough to make me say the scientist/institution in the article a priori has it wrong, especially because it's not a one-off dude just messing around.
Can't you just put it on speaker?
This is propaganda belittling social causes and ignoring societal decline. Not everything gets better always. Why is this on HN?
One of the results, yes. That's good marketing in China. What kind of things you see in the papers tells you something about a country operates, but not a whole lot about how much access TPTB are actually being given to your messages, which is presumably the thing you care about.
We think in something Steven Pinker termed “mentalese”. It is distinct from human language. There are many examples of people who are cognitively normal, but either lack or have severely impaired language for various reasons.

The distinction between reason and language is not widely appreciated, and is a main if not the primary reason people overestimate the abilities of LLMs.
There's more. It also enables some limited (unsafe) rearrangement of your floating point expressions, as well as a few other settings inside the floating point system. Flushing denorms to 0 is only part of it.

It also will do things like using an approximate reciprocal square root instruction plus a refinement iteration instead of fsqrt then fdiv.