skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It's absolutely wild to me that your response to being intentionally lied to is to say "other people get lied to, so it's ok to lie to me too".
Another one to collect dust. The problem I run into with new languages are the often dissolving community when they first gain popularity and then run into a critical design flaw. How is a person who goes about learning a language to find extendability of a language if it never gets out of the early-alpha stage and has more than 5k followers?
30 Minutes on Facebook
Obviously not legal advice and I doubt it's entirely settled law, but probably this step

> What if I decide to offer that script as a service for free to friends and family, who can use my cloud server?

You're allowed to make copies and adaptations in order to utilize the program (website), which probably covers a cloud server you yourself are controlling. You aren't allowed to do other things with those copies though, like distribute them to other people.

Payment only matters if we're getting into "free use" arguments, and I don't think any really apply here.

I think you're probably already in trouble with just offering it to family and friends, but if you take the next step offering it to the public that adds more issues because the copyright act includes definitions like "To perform or display a work “publicly” means (1) to perform or display it at a place open to the public or at any place where a substantial number of persons outside of a normal circle of a family and its social acquaintances is gathered; or (2) to transmit or otherwise communicate a performance or display of the work to a place specified by clause (1) or to the public, by means of any device or process, whether the members of the public capable of receiving the performance or display receive it in the same place or in separate places and at the same time or at different times."
Regardless that is a feature I been wanting for a long time. I don't really see myself switching to Android anytime soon, because I think the iPhone is the least bad option and I trust Apple ever so slightly more than Google. Still I do want to be able to send my dad photos larger than what MMS supports, and try as I might, he's not installing Signal.
Corporations are people. Not saying that’s right. But is that not the law?
I think it's hilarious that they link to a youtube video that already has the same commercial.
Congress members are rarely experts (but those that are do exist), but their staff usually includes some.

And the problem with expert witness testimony is that it needs to be validated.

If you know nothing about a topic, and I and someone with an opposite viewpoint both put experts in from of you that support our positions, how do you decide?

Better funding and expanding a non-partisan, Library of Congress type resource seems like a better approach to me.
> I wonder how Swift plans to address this.

Swift subsets the language and libraries (which the compiler inlines). No complicated strings or runtime metadata for generic existentials.

And new features for ownership. Seamless C interop.

There's a lot to it!
There is AutoKey for Linux and X11.
With no benefit provided to the creator — they're not directing users out, they're pulling data in.
That’s not very correct the new ISS solar panels for example have a 12% efficiency they are optimized for longevity and weight.

The relatively high efficiency figures often touted for some spacecraft panels especially in low earth orbit don’t compare apples to apples as they include the additional 70-80% solar radiation that isn’t absorbed, reflected or scattered by the atmosphere.

There are some spacecraft that do use multi-junction cells with very high efficiency however those are ones which are sent far into the outer solar system like Dawn and Juno.
The joke flew right over your head. Let me explain. It’s wild to me that WaPo has the gall to say anything about other news outlets lying.
> A tool that runs on-device (like Reader mode) is different because Perplexity is an aggregator service that will continue to solidify its position as a demand aggregator and I will never be able to get people directly on my content.

If I visit your site from Google with my browser configured to go straight to Reader Mode whenever possible, is my visit more useful to you than a summary and a link to your site provided by Perplexity? Why does it matter so much that visitors be directly on your content?
Yes, but also why should they? It’s not really in their interest to do so. The only reason they’re doing anything is because of regulatory pressure.
I think you should read what I said a few more times.
Can't but feel perovskite to be a fad no different than DSSCs before.

And I say it as someone who's researched them at EPFL in Michael Graetzel's laboratory.

I don't think the technology will ever be efficient and most importantly stable as needed.
From the UN march report:

"Citing international law, Ms. Albanese explained that genocide is defined as a specific set of acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.

“Specifically, Israel has committed three acts of genocide with the requisite intent: causing seriously serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part, and imposing measures intended to prevent birth within the group,” she said.

Furthermore, “the genocide in Gaza is the most extreme stage of a long-standing settler colonial process of erasure of the native Palestinians,” she continued. "

Edit0: Feel free to google "Nakba" and search for yourself as well
per https://avherald.com/h?article=519ee0ab&opt=0

> What happened in these 16 seconds is described in an internal memo circulating in Southwest Airlines stating, that during the go around due to weather conditions the first officer, pilot flying, inadvertently pushed the control column forward while monitoring the power settings causing the aircraft to descend to about 400 feet MSL before the aircraft started climbing again.
I changed it a few days ago, still getting hit by over 14800 requests within 24 hours
Why is that the line and not a paid web browser? What about a paid web browser whose primary feature is a really powerful ad blocker?
The advertisement on Y Combinator.
> The currents and voltages involved are going to make that a non-starter. Do you really want random people messing with those?

As part of our daily lives, a great many of us climb into a steel box powered by explosions and packing a 20 gallon container of flammable liquids (and increasingly several hundred pounds of also flammable batteries containing more electricity than an average family uses in a week) and then pilot that box at 80Mph down a strip of concrete packed with other large high-speed objects containing flammable liquids. Occasionally, we run low on flammable liquids in our high-speed metal box and get to refill the flammable liquid container ourselves at a flammable liquids depot, which contains upwards of 40,000 gallons of the flammable liquid delivered by other larger high-speed metal boxes which also share the same strip of concrete with us.

So: I'd expect some product safety iteration here before we get to the "roll out your own solar panels", but no, I don't consider that a non-starter.
Odin website sure could! Highlights according to landing page:

> Data-Oriented, Simplicity, High Performance, "Batteries Included", Open Source (BSD 3)

https://odin-lang.org/
This is why media publishers went behind paywalls to get away from Google News
Go read the Al Jazeera article on the Lavender AI! It won't help you sleep though.
I've often wondered if there aren't some structures in the brain, that have been selected for since the advent of language, that are good at learning up languages.
Why would a paid web browser be the line?

No one is distributing copies of anything to anyone then apart from the website that owns the content lawfully distributing a copy to the user.

Also why is a paid web browser any different than a free one?
More than this, I'd rather use a tool which lets me fake the user agent like I can in my browser.
Right, but a billion dollars to a relative small fry in the publishing industry (even online only) like the ny times is chum in the water.

The next six publishers are going to be looking for $100B and probably have the funds for better lawyers.

At some point these are going to hit the courts, an NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses.
I remember vividly my first major coding project that I made real money on. My job was supposed to be a backend caching piece and doing enough of the frontend that a designer could lay out the page. The problem was, this designer used a Mac and the primary user of the application was still on IE6. After lots of back and forth rendering issues were going to cause the project to not get delivered on time, I was told to just keep working with the designer.

I decided to take matters into my own hands, and sat down at Starbucks resolving to not get up until the place closed down or I had the problem fixed completely. After a little digging, I realized that the box model used by IE6 was completely different than Chrome / Firefox and the designer had no way to design for it or to even test it, he was just throwing changes over the wall without any ability to make sure they were going to work. One change broke six other things.

I found a service that allowed me to test on various platforms and set about ascertaining how bad it was. I soon realized that to fix it, I needed to throw the whole thing out and start from scratch. Took about 6 hours of straight work and my hail mary effort saved the project. I did the rest of the layout work going forward.
pmbootstrap v3 - incrementally built alpine packages
Slidy-Cow
There is no claim just a fact.

More data won't help if the problem is the tools as such.

Grandparent said the hard part is getting rid of the last 1%, parent claimed Elon said the dame when he said 99.99% of the trait data is useless.

But it's not the same.
Elon thinks he just needs the right data to solve the problem but it could be impossible even if he gets the data because of the limitations of the used type of AI.

If you need a screwdriver but only have a hammer more nails won't help.

AI is here used by me as an umbrella term for computer decision systems.
Please tell me where I can contribute some $$$ for the lawsuit to stop this shit.
> but also why should they?

Because allowing communication with open standards allows more freedom for your customers?
Seems EmberGen (and all products JangaFX produces) are made with Odin, so one can be fairly confident it won't disappear over night. I'd probably consider Odin production ready already since EmberGen works pretty well for its use cases, and is blazing fast.
For simple angles you can use an element of SO(2) as your state. But if the algorithm calls for a difference of two states, the result would have to be an element of a real vector space (in this case a single number between -pi and pi). Analogue to this an addition of a state manifold and a vector also results in a state manifold. You can switch between those representations using the exp and log functions. In the papers these „new“ operators are described as boxplus and boxminus. And the elegant thing of this approach is that in most cases you just would replace plus with boxplus and minus with boxminus and it just works(tm)
> I don't want to live in a world where website owners can use DRM to force me to display their website in exactly the way that their designers envisioned it.

I'm okay with this world, as a tradeoff. I'm not sure users should have _the right_ to reformat others' content.
If I was forced to pick, LLMs are closer to reading than to photocopying.

But, and these are important, 1) quantity has a quality all of its own, and 2) if a human was employed to answer questions on the web, then someone asked them to quote all of e.g. Harry Potter, and this person did so, that's still copyright infringement.
Check out Diffit, which takes URLs or text and re-levels the text and gives comprehension questions. [1]

Also check out Quill, which is a nonprofit mostly focused on writing but moving into the reading comprehension area as well. [2]

There are others as well, but it's not clear which will emerge as winners.

1: https://app.diffit.me/

2: https://www.quill.org/
Stupid question I've been curious about.

What happens to a PV panel, receiving sunlight, with no load?

Does it degrade or suffer ill effects in any meaningful way? Or does it just have a potential between its outputs but otherwise isn't impacted?
To people who claim that "thinking and reasoning require language", here is a problem:
Imagine standing at the North Pole of the Earth.
Walk in any direction, in a straight line, for 1 km.
Now turn 90 degrees to the left.
Walk for as long as it takes to pass your starting point.
Have you walked:
1. More than 2xPi km
2. Exactly 2xPi km
3. Less than 2xPi km
4. I never came close to my starting point.

Think about how you tried to answer this question and tell us whether it was based on language.

Just quoting this here in case anything happens to the tweet...

I agree with this, however I have one tiny nitpick, feel free to tell me if you think I'm wrong or being overly nitpicky, but the knowledge of the situation in which the phenomenon that he's describing occurs, I learned about entirely from language. So my ability to answer the question is based on that knowledge.

I'm aware that the reasoning problem itself doesn't utilise it, but a position and direction system in and of itself arguably also suffers from being insufficient.

I suppose I'm wondering if "setup" counts as needing language model?
I believe the author isn’t dishonest about how they felt. But that supportive reasoning is pretty discardable. They emphasized one change as additive but glossed by the subtractive change implying there was none in concurrent executive decisioning. Experience around cognitive load can be a result in part from a users anxiety with the momentarily unfamiliar, and i think this probably is more at play than author is self aware of in the comparison.
This gets really interesting, and weird, if we're ever able to start making ships capable of approaching relativistic rates. You could arrive at the destination after 500 years, only to discover that humans colonized it 50,000 years ago.

For those who may not know, the speed of light isn't really a speed limit per se. If you have a button that gives you an acceleration of 1km/s, nothing stops you from hitting it 300,000 times in a row (with the speed of light being ~300,000km/s), or even a billion. Instead the entire universe begins to distort with distances becoming literally physically closer, and with rate of time itself also changing (length contraction + time dilation are the terms).

It has the interesting implication that if we could ever create a ship that "just" accelerates at 1g, you could travel essentially anywhere in the universe, even if it's billions of light years away, in a single human lifespan! [1] So for instance the distance to the closest galaxy, Canis Major, is about 25,000 light years. You could get there in our 1g ship in less than 20 years. Of course, 25,000 years would genuinely have passed in the interim, so you get all sorts of fun paradoxes and oddities. And the oddities are exponential, so you could travel a billion light years in 40 years.

And this isn't just hypothetical or whatever. Time dilation plays a major role in many things, like particle accelerators. Unstable emergent particles end up 'living' for far longer than they should thanks to the fact they're moving at near light speed relative to us, which means that time is [relatively] passing for it more slowly than for us.

[1] - http://convertalot.com/relativistic_star_ship_calculator.htm...
Well for one thing you visiting his site and displaying it via reader mode doesn't remove his ability to sell paid licenses for his content to companies that would like to redistribute his content. Meanwhile having those companies do so for free without a license obviously does.
My HN css doesn't even display usernames. I don't find discussions acrimonious/flame war. But feel free not to engage, I'm not out to make your life difficult/less enjoyable on a weekend. Anyway There's a mute feature here.

https://github.com/insin/comments-owl-for-hacker-news/

But you posted this article, I have opinion, which is not directed solely at you but others interested (and especially not interested) in reading. If you're going to post blobby/wonky discourse piece that needs to be called out on, I'll criticize the piece accordingly. I'll take effort to not directly to _your_ comments from now on.
If Perplexity’s source code is downloaded from a public web site or other repository, and you take the time to understand the code and produce your own novel implementation, then yes. Now, if you “get it from a friend”, illegally, _or_ you just redeploy the code, without creating a transformative work, then there’s a problem.

> Just pay the stupid license and if that makes your business unsustainable then it's not much a business is it?

In the persona of a business owner, why pay for something that you don’t legally, need to pay for? The question of how copyright applies to LLMs and other AI is still open. They’d be fools to buy licenses before it’s been decided.

More importantly, we’re potentially talking about the entire knowledge of humanity being used in training. There’s no-one on earth with that kind of money. Sure, you can just say that the business model doesn’t work, but we’re discussing new technologies that have real benefit to humanity, and it’s not just businesses that are training models this way.

Any decision which hinders businesses from developing models with this data will hinder independent researchers 10 fold, so it’s important that we’re careful about what precedent is set in the name of punishing greedy businessmen.
How would an LLM training on your writing reduce your reward?

I guess if you're doing it for a living sure, but most content I consume online is created without incentive (social media, blogs, stack overflow).

I write a fair amount and have been for a few years. I like to play with ideas. If an llm learned from my writing and it helped me propagate my ideas, I'd be happy. I lose on social status imaginary internet points but I honestly don't care much for them.

The craziest one is the stack overflow contributors. They write answers for free to help people become better programmers but they're mad an llm will read their suggestions and answer questions that help people become better programmers. I guess they do it for the glory of having their handle next to the answer?
> In a case of a wider trade war with china, where are the people who built eg. foxconn?

Taiwan. Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, though most of their factories are in China and their founder is a notorious CCP collaborationist.
I agree with all, except the comments about “willing to work for low salaries”. This type of filter tends to attract individuals who may lack the entrepreneurial spirit essential for a startup. It’s a losing strategy.
If you care about your customers, you care about them having a good experience when communicating with your non-customers.
Not just grid scale. It can be the difference of panels on your roof generating enough electricity to barely meet your needs to having so much excess you can not only supply your home needs, but also charge multiple EVs at home.
This looks promising: https://github.com/tjmnmk/gadget_cdrom

It's using a Raspberry Pi Zero to emulate a USB CD-ROM. A menu on the device allows you to choose an ISO to boot from.
Listening to some of the processes described for eking out that extra 1-2% efficiency, I'm curious if there's a crossover point where the energy required to get that last couple theoretical percentage points exceeds the lifetime return from the efficiency gain to the panel.
AI hysteria has made everyone lose their minds over normal things.
It learns to recognize which objects correspond to which sounds, and vice versa. It doesn't really understand linguistic concepts like grammar, sentences, logic, etc.

It doesn't really have much in common with LLMs. If the ideas were combined, the results might be interesting, although probably requiring very significant compute.
Settling for a billion dollars would be insane. They'd immediately get sued by everyone who ever posted anything on the internet.
Paid is arguably different than free because the code that is actually asking for the data is owned by a company and licensed to the user, in much the same way as a cloud server licenses usage of their servers to the user. That said, I'll note that my argument is explicitly that the line doesn't exist, so I'm not saying a paid browser is the line.

I'm unfamiliar with the legal questions, but in 2024 I have a very hard time seeing an ethical distinction between running some proprietary code on my machine to complete a task and running some proprietary code on a cloud server to complete a task. In both cases it's just me asking someone else's code to fetch data for my use.
That's what you do for a living, but not something you want to do as a kid. Unless there are kids with middle-aged mentality.
Uber is widely used in London, so they succeeded.

If they had waited decades for the regulatory landscape to even out they would have failed.
Respecting robots.txt is something their training crawler should do, and I see no reason why their user agent (i.e. user asks it to retrieve a web page, it does) should, as it isn't a crawler (doesn't walk the graph).

As to "lying" about their user agents - this is 2024, the "User-Agent" header is considered a combination bug and privacy issue, all major browsers lie about being a browser that was popular many years ago, and recently the biggest browser(s?) standardized on sending one exact string from now on forever (which would obviously be a lie). This header is deprecated in every practical sense, and every user agent should send a legacy value saying "this is mozilla 5" just like Edge and Chrome and Firefox do (because at some point people figured out that if even one website exists that customizes by user agent but did not expect that new browsers would be released, nor was maintained since, then the internet would be broken unless they lie). So Perplexity doing the same is standard, and best, practice.
How many Linux desktops send text messages?
> ny times is chum in the water

The Times has a lauder litigation team. Their finances are good and their revenue sources diverse. They’re not aching to strike a deal.

> NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses

Why? Especially if this goes to a jury.
Thanks @ac2u. Appreciate the insight.
Really? Couldn't you just tape a piece of cardboard over it?
Where exactly you crossed the line is a question for the courts. I am not a lawyer and will there for not help with the specifics.

However, please see the Aereo case [0] for a possibly analogous case. I am allowed to have a DVR. There is no law preventing me from accessing my DVR over a network. Or possibly even colocating it in a local data center. But Aereo definitely crossed a line. Also see Vidangel [1]. The fact that something is legal to do at home, does not mean that I can offer it as a cloud service.

[0] https://www.vox.com/2018/11/7/18073200/aereo

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_v._VidAngel
> piracy is not theft

it was when Napster was doing it; but there's no entity like the RIAA to stop the AI bots