skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "OpenAI won’t store requests" feels intentionally opaque.

I was personally holding out for a federated learning approach where multiple Apple devices could be used to process a request but I guess the Occam's razor prevails. I'll wait and see.
It's all in the "private cloud". "Trust me bro", it's like totally private, only us and a handful of governments can read it.
I'm loving this one! Thanks for sharing :)
The promise is from Apple, not OpenAI, and likely contractual.

If OpenAI actually went against that, Apple would unleash the mother of all lawsuits.
The second point makes sense. It gives Apple optionality to cut off the external LLMs at a later date if they want to. I wonder what % of requests will be handled by the private cloud models vs. local. I would imagine TTS and ASR is local for latency reasons. Natural language classifiers would certainly run on-device. I wonder if summarization and rewriting will though - those are more complex and definitely benefit from larger models.
Why? Things are secure (outside of the explicit OpenAI calls via Siri) and mostly seem subtly integrated. You don't have to use each feature, but why blindly disable all AI having not even tried it?
Sean Carroll claims many-worlds is “super duper falsifiable”

“ Right, so speaking of which, look, many-worlds says there is a wave function or a state vector, it evolves all the time under the Schrödinger equation. So all you need to do to falsify the many worlds-interpretation is to do an experiment where the wave function is not under the Schrödinger equation. These experiments are ongoing. Roger Penrose makes predictions that we should see them. There’s other theories of objective collapses that says we should see them. So that’s just one way. Also, you could find evidence for dynamical variables other than the wave function, ’cause those don’t exist in many-worlds. So there’s plenty of ways in which you could experimentally do these things. They’re hard experiments to do, and they may never converge on anything, but they’re there in principle. If you care about the philosophy of it rather than the practice of it, there’s zero question that many-worlds is completely 100% super-duper falsifiable.”

https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2021/04/14/ama-...
> Choosy

Wow, this would be pretty useful. Drives me crazy when my meetings open up in my personal chrome.
> The ChatGPT integration, powered by GPT-4o, will come to iOS, iPadOS, and macOS later this year.

Jensen Huang must be having the time of his life right now. Nvidia's relationship with Apple went from pariah to prodigal son, real fast.
Any sufficiently complicated network program contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of email or Usenet.
It seems that the Apple intelligence stuff will be 15 Pro. Man, I just bought a 15 ~8 months ago. That really sucks.
I never thought I’d see the day macOS would get tiling window management. Wonder how it will interact with Stage Manager if at all.
My approach has been to move all of the critical secrets out of the vendor device and embed it in a keyboard. It then works with anything that accepts a keyboard.. I'll be releasing this as open source (hardware & software) soon:

https://www.anomie.tech/products/anigma/ce/
For a layman in physics, what do you mean by “shut up and calculate”, and does it always align with existing interpretations?
> I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source

No, but they said it'll be available for audit by independent experts.
| These are polished and complete alternatives

Are they though?

I just setup ubuntu 24 for my son to play games and it's comparatively a very unpolished experience. I'm being very polite when I say that.
I am excited to try Siri with this technology enabled. I can't really remember a time when siri ever really worked, although recently I actually got her to play a song on youtube for me after a few attempts and was pretty pleased with that. Outside of "set my alarm for 4:30" kind of stuff, she's never really been that useful, and if you are even kind of disabled, this feature can be really useful to the point of life changing if it is done properly.
That would be great, the three or so articles I read said nothing about it. Thanks!
What broken Sam Altman promises are you referring to?
I hope it includes credit cards, rewards programs, IDs/Passports, etc. so that I can cancel my 1Password subscription.
Same they say privacy so many times i got Facebook PTSD.
good. SEO should die in a dumpster fire. in fact, i would love to create a genmoji of that very thing
Abbott gets FDA clearance for over-the-counter continuous glucose monitors
So, if I've got this correct there's:

1. On-device AI

2. AI using Apple's servers

3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future)

Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission.

[Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]
I didn't say it had to simulate real physics. Have you ever tried *a* genetic algorithm? They grow legs all the time in their toy universes, if that helps them increase their objective function.
Great! How do I opt out?
For broadly similar reasons, I think it's a wise move to ensure Apple's AI services exist under a brand Apple entirely controls.
They use OpenAI as an optional fallback model. Adding support for more models later. I’m positively surprised they’re not trying to solve everything with their own tech.
They need to provide a mechanism to view the data being uploaded by you
Which part? The online or offline capabilities?
Unfortunately OpenAI has a pretty big "dollars and hours spent on GPUs" moat right now. I imagine Apple is already hard at work building their own models, but until then they will leverage 3rd parties
If you use the regular version of altstore, or jailbreak, you can install it.

I messed around with it a few years ago. Running windows xp on an ipad 6 was a bit of a trip.
Doesn't that depend on the venue? I thought I had read that some European member states had more subjective intent based enforcement?
Isn’t the statement “being stuck” a bit like an attempt at predicting the future? You don’t know how long something will stay stuck…

I think a very common error when it comes to personal learning or progress is confusing a plateau with a brick wall. The reason is, unless you have already walked the path, it’s not possible to differentiate them. And when it comes to progress, no one has already walked the path, hence no one knows actually.
That's not a "promise from Sam Altman", that's a contractual term between Apple, Inc. and OpenAI, LLC.

So I think it's worth as much as Apple is willing to spend enforcing it, which I imagine would be quite a bit.
100%. I'm not sure if this was always the case or if it was a slow result of tech becoming overrun by finance, but it's a very motivating thing for me. I started a company for a lot of reasons, and this isn't the top one, but I sure would love to show success without playing the class-signalling games that the valley seems overrun with.

On the other hand, I'm posting my content post here in part because I know the HN candidate pool is about a trillion times better than I'll get anywhere else. So perhaps I've already lost that battle.
What's your point? If nobody cares about it then let the app on the app store.
It's a market for lemons but it's also an incredibly inefficient market for lemons. It's amazing just how much gold is randomly lying on the ground on the lemon market you can just occasionally pick up.

The classic story is some engineer who got picked up by a company when they were 22, did well and got promoted a few times and then runs into a terrible boss that makes their tenure untenable at 29 and goes out onto the market any interviews exactly like a 22 year old again by just shooting off random resumes from LinkedIn. I've had to slap so many of my tech friends on the head and be like, no, look, there's a so much more pleasant path you can now go down.

But like, why wouldn't it be that way? The median number of hours any engineer spends thinking about how to get hired in any one year is zero, there's an extreme minority who love the system and think about it all the time and they all talk to each other so they think everyone else is an idiot but the majority of good engineers spent most of their time getting good at engineering, not being hired.

I have an alternative theory which I call the "5th most important problem syndrome". At any company/department/team/individual, we have all the aspirations in the world but we really only have the bandwidth to work on our 1st & 2nd and maaaaybe 3rd most important problems. Getting better at hiring usually slots somewhere around the 5th most important problem which is a dangerous space to be because we oh so aspirationally want to get around to it this quarter but life inconveniently gets in the way so it gets pushed onto the backburner where it will forever be the 5th most important problem.

Startups have to be super careful to make sure they're not solving the 5th most important problem in their user's lives because the initial feedback will be overwhelming that this is definitely one of the top 10 most important problems the company/user faces and everyone is gung ho about fixing it but every time it's time to make forward progress, some "unexpected" emergency appears that derails the project.

Working on technical debt is a classic 5th most important problem which is why it's a perennial topic for debate in engineering circles. Startups that aim to optimize your cloud cost, IMHO, also run into this quite a bit. I've seen so many of them come and go throughout the years and my conversations with them tend to all follow this same trajectory.
> It often feels like the median Python (or JavaScript for that matter) user has a very different mindset than Rust, Go, C, etc programmers (in my experience, Python programmers also are much less likely to have used other languages extensively).

Totally agree. One example of "python-brain" that I see a lot at my employer is using pandas dataframes as the only data structure, beyond _maybe_ the occasional list or dict. Any entity with multiple attributes is represented as more columns in a dataframe, rather than via objects.
But you may not have access to API capabilities needed without an paid account.
Wouldn't this reduce sales for Grammerly? If Apple packs the same feature for every application in iOS, it is kinda cool.

Private Cloud - Isn't this what Amazon did with their tablet - Fire? What is the difference with Apple Private Cloud?
Phthalates, Toxic Plastic Additives, Are Everywhere: What's the Acceptable Limit
The next logical step after your company becomes too large to claim it's "like a family!"
> However when it came time to share those pictures, I informed everyone it would be best to get google photos where we could all dump the hundreds of pictures into one communal album. This was quickly met with "What? I don't want to deal with that, why don't we just share them the regular way?" (imessage).

My family, including myself, all have iPhones. We’ve done exactly this for our family trips to the Black Hills and Ozarks over the last couple years, but we just share them with Apple’s shared albums. It works exactly the same as Google’s shared albums but with the iMessage and other iOS/macOS integration niceties. That could be why your family didn’t want to download another app to do what’s “already built in” to the phone, so to speak.

Just speculating, you know your family better than I ever could obviously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding

This is a very solid base to start from.
"As of 2023 it is the largest supplier for the semiconductor industry and the sole supplier in the world of extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV) photolithography machines that are required to manufacture the most advanced chips."
I can't confirm if the price is the same or not, but their terms[1] specifically mention that the price can be different.

> Prices for Offerings you order for delivery or pickup through the Online Grocery Ordering Service may be higher than the prices for such Offerings in our physical stores.

Most outlets I've seen (eg. Target) are the same in that they just list a higher price on the website than it costs in-store and they're upfront about this. It takes me 20-25 minutes of in-store picking to shop including checkout for my weekly groceries. Even if that is done by a minimum wage worker (~$17/hr here) that's ~$6-8 of service on top of them bringing it out to the curb. In addition, eggs are usually specially packed in their own bag (frequently with a sticker on the bag labeled "eggs") when they're bought online and curbsided. It seems a bit naive to me to think that all this service would just be included/free.

[1] https://www.albertsonscompanies.com/policies-and-disclosures... (linked from safeway's footer)
Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life).

The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like setting calendar and reservations or asking about someone’s flight is so useful (can’t tell you how many times my brother didn’t bother to check the flight code I sent him via message when he asks me when I’m landing for pickup!).

I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem.

Nevermind all the thought put into private cloud, integration with ChatGPT, the image generation playground, and Genmoji. I can genuinely see all this being useful for “the rest of us,” to quote Craig. As someone who’s taken a pessimistic view of Apple software innovation the last several years, I’m amazed.

One caveat: the image generation of real people was super uncanny and made me uncomfortable. I would not be happy to receive one of those cold and impersonal, low-effort images as a birthday wish.
A Turkish student caught red-handed during their use of AI-powered cheating rig
Big partnership for OpenAI. Incredible Apple decided to integrate with a third party like this directly into the OS. This feels like something Apple could have executed well by themselves. I was hoping they weren't going to outsource but I suppose the rumors while they were shopping around were true.

I think this further confirms that they think these AI services are a commodity that they don't feel a need to compete with for the time being.
More like “Sign in so we can link this view to the profile of real human.”
OG iPhone had Google as Maps provider and YouTube both within Apple shells and the branding downplayed in Maps case

That’s the only case I can think of where it’s an external tech you’re making requests to, usually it’s things like Rosetta made out of Apple IIRC but integrated internally
Yes, I would love the escalation path to be: on-device -> owned Mac -> "private cloud"
Deterioration of local community a major driver of loss of play-based childhood
Amazing how Microsoft, Google and now Apple are racing to 'generate' more and more text and images, and they also race to 'summarize' the now generated texts because everything is just noise. Like an anxious digital beehive.

By the end of the year maybe 1% of the content you interact with will be human made.

Even now in HN maybe 20-30% of the comments are generated by various transformers, but it seems every input box on every OS now has a context aware 'generate' button, so I suspect it will be way more in few months.

The Eternal September is coming. (and by ironic coincidence it might actually be in September haha)
You can turn Siri off, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the same: a toggle on by default that they present you when upgrading the OS. Perhaps even just the same toggle for Siri controls all of this as a whole.
It will if you do it right. I had panic disorder. You probably need to gradually increase the stimulus and set your goals lower. If you're panicking in the situation then you've started at too intense of a level and need to work up to that over time. Don't give up. You can do it.

Another key thing a lot of people don't know is that you need good sleep in between stimulus exposures. Also, you probably need a shitload more exposure than you think. Persistence is what will save you.
On the opposite side, it not being seamless is entirely why I would actually trust using the new Siri with any sensitive data.

I am not entirely sure I will ever actually allow it to connect to ChatGPT for privacy reasons, but having the option when it can't be handled another way is nice.

I imagine this is more a stopgap until more and more of this can happen locally anyways. Especially since it sounds like Siri determins when it should reach out.
More accurate headline "something about my device/connection tripped youtube's bot detection"

Is this a new thing? edit: there's a thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40635834

this image is from the github issue linked there
Their demos looked like how I imagined AI before ChatGPT ever existed. It was a personalized, context aware, deeply integrated way of interacting with your whole system.

I really enjoyed the explanation for how they planned on tackling server-enabled AI tasks while making the best possible effort to keep your requests private. Auditable server software that runs on Apple hardware is probably as good as you can get for tasks like that. Even better would be making it OSS.

There was one demo where you could talk to Siri about your mom and it would understand the context because of stuff that she (your mom) had written in one of her emails to you... that's the kind of stuff that I think we all imagined an AI world would look like. I'm really impressed with the vision they described and I think they honestly jumped to the lead of the pack in an important way that hasn't been well considered up until this point.

It's not just the raw AI capabilities from the models themselves, which I think many of us already get the feeling are going to be commoditized at some point in the future, but rather the hardware and system-wide integrations that make use of those models that matters starting today. Obviously how the experience will be when it's available to the public is a different story, but the vision alone was impressive to me. Basically, Apple again understands the UX.

I wish Apple the best of luck and I'm excited to see how their competitors plan on responding. The announcement today I think was actually subtle compared to what the implications are going to be. It's exciting to think that it may make computing easier for older people.
"let's store responses and a hash of the request intent in a kvp then"
Can someone explain why the AAPL share drops 1% during the event. Did the market expect more? If so, what?
> What is the threshold for running something in the cloud?

To be fair, this was just the keynote -- details will be revealed in the sessions.
To be honest, he's done worse than Keith Gill, but I consider both to be doing a public disservice. They wouldn't post their positions unless they are legally required to and/or it benefits them. Let's see Keith post his positions before he takes them if he wants to help people.
You're an apple user, you decided a long time ago that they know what's best for you
iOS already supports OTP, it’s just buried in Settings > Passwords > Set up verification code. Once you do that, it’s seamless - it autofills in all my site and works beautifully in chrome/edge/firefox even in my PCs
I used YT premium until I realized I was still getting ads from the videos themselves.
Why take up processor time or memory for a feature I don't want? Or the increase in threat space?
That was my sense as well. I would have appreciated some clarification on where the line between 1 and 2 was, although I am sure a YouTuber will deep dive on it as soon as they have it in their hands
Ask HN: Do you subscribe to any RSS feeds or newsletters for LLMs/gen AI?
Given there is no mention of "Artificial" is this Apple rebranding AI, the same as they did AR a year ago?
I love the tight control Apple keeps on the app store, just last week it forced an app update on me that deleted all my OTP keys, because the OTP app was bought by some malware vendor and I didn't get prompted that this prior personal project was now controlled by a literal scam artist company prior to them pushing an update. Their commitment to safety goes so far I can neither inspect the data saved by the app nor look at the app binary itself, can you help me understand how that makes the iPhone app store secure?
TL;DR: A Turkish student caught red-handed during their use of ChatGPT-powered cheating rig, and arrested by Turkish police forces.
And it's 1kg and 15cm long, and costs 1300 too. Most people will probably rather buy the non-art 28 and a 45 and carry both. But I think that's besides the point. If you're buying this I think it's because you really want exactly these bells and whistles.

The art line is like the "enterprise edition" of lenses :-)
False detection rates suck enough - I can't imagine how awesome hallucinated fraud detection will be.
Gotta say, from a branding point of view, it's completely perfect. Sometimes things as "small" as the letters in a companies name can have a huge impact decades down the road. AI == AI, and that's how Apple is going to play it. That bit at the end where it said "AI for the rest of us" is a great way to capture the moment, and probably suggests where Apple is going to go.

imo, apple will gain expertise to serve a monster level of scale for more casual users that want to generate creative or funny pictures, emojis, do some text work, and enhance quality of life. I don't think Apple will be at the forefront of new AI technology to integrate those into user facing features, but if they are to catch up, they will have to get into the forefront of the same technologies to support their unique scale.

Was a notable WWDC, was curious to see what they would do with the Mac Studio and Mac Pro, and nothing about the M3 Ultra or M4 Ultra, or the M3/M4 Extreme.

I also predicted that they would use their own M2 Ultras and whatnot to support their own compute capacity in the cloud, and interestingly enough it was mentioned. I wonder if we'll get more details on this front.
Yes, and it supports Sponsor Block, to skip promotions built into the videos, like those annoying VPN sponsorships.
What's new besides management of passwords being move from Settings, now into it's own dedicated app?
Let me run it locally on a Mac mini or whatever
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If we're leaning into the tragedy of the commons problem, sure we're all screwed no matter what.

We only have another arms race if countries decide to join the race.
I mean how they'll monetise it?
Timely with how official support for the old 1Password 7 apps probably won’t be continued for too much longer, with 1Password pushing users over to the notably worse v8 apps. I’ll probably switch.
It's so bad I often wonder if I've done something to inadvertently screw up whatever vector database is used to weight the guesses on my particular phone. It's just hard to imagine having this bad of a user experience of a fundamental function be widespread.