skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>Is no European politician talking about why they are absolutely dependant on US Software, US Hardware and US Technology Services, does it raise too many awkward questions to do that?

I have no doubt they are. But it is extremely hard to admit that you yourself have caused these problems. Maybe it can be fixed by regulating more.
The presentation of this article is confusing. Does the author or this researcher actually think this is novel enough to write about like this? Or are they just too embarrassed to have a single paragraph that translates roughly to "here's another minor development that's entirely in line with everyone's mental model" and leave it at that?
"Siri add an alarm for an appointment for the dentist tomorrow at 10"

Sets appointment for 10pm

Will the Siri team be fired or are they in charge of openAI integration?
Every release is an LTS version, with support for about 8 years.

The current stable release of macOS (10.14 Sonoma) supports all Macs introduced in 2017 and later.
of course an untrusted router can do many things, it's one reason you use a VPN at all. your provider's router is ... untrustworthy. i believe the point of the paper is that even if you use VPN, the router can detect that and classify you. VPN is illegal in some countries so this is relevant. let's avoid a "security must be absolute" mindset. like, thing A is not worth doing because thing B is still flawed. the paper seeks to address a specific thing A and things B,C,D are out of scope.

in the paper abstract they specifically and only talk about the CPE router, which can identify LAN clients uniquely, but very similar thing applies to the upstream edge/border router. I believe (I only scanned it, didn't read it in detail) the paper focuses on the CPE router because the fingerprinting load is distributed and free in that case, and most often the provider owns the CPE anyway. so this is a reasonable place to focus on. however they've neglected netflow records (from provider owned upstream border/edge router) which can similarly be analyzed, offline at a leisurely pace, with arbitrary resources able to be thrown at it, and unlike a CPE firmware action cannot be detected. so i don't know how important the "router" part is.

the ability to detect VPN itself isn't novel or even interesting, but i guess their claim is in presenting a traffic analysis that requires little sophistication and few resources, something lightweight enough that it can be run at the CPE.
~~This is not the direction I was hoping Apple would go with AI.

With all the neural this and that bits baked into apple silicon, it has seemed [0] for a while that Apple wanted to run all these workloads locally, but this partnership seems like a significant privacy backslide.

Another comment in this thread said something about they’re using b Apple silicon for these workloads, but didn’t give an indication of whether that silicon lives in Apple datacenters or OpenAI ones.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38725167~~

edit: I should have mentioned that I didn’t have a chance to watch the video yet; a reply to my comment mentioned that it’s addressed in the video so I’ll go watch that later
I can't believe some people think this way. When did MY phone become THEIR device?
I'm not knowledgeable to have an opinion on the article but I chuckled at this framing:

> Global mutable state is bad programming style because it’s really hard to deal with, but to robot software the entire physical world is global mutable state, and you only get to unreliably observe it and hope your actions approximate what you wanted to achieve.

Holson’s Law of Tolerable API Design also has potential:

> Design your APIs for someone as smart as you, but less tolerant of stupid BS.
This video is excellent. It’s one of those videos that will become a classic of YouTube in the future. The kind that’s recommended to millions of people
Isn’t MS heavily invested in them and also letting them use Azure pretty extensively? Rather, I think this is more like an interesting model of a big tech company actually managing to figure out exactly how hands off they need to be, in order to not suffocate any ember of innovation. (In this mixed analogy people often put out fires with their bare hands I guess, don’t think too hard about it).
Mean-Jerk Time Equation [video]
And apparently via Siri, not as part of their other integrations. So you ask something, Siri suggests ChatGPT, you agree to send the prompt. It's not built into the other ML related capabilities.
I've been using KeePassXC on Mac and Windows and sync them between each other with Unison[1]. I'd be curious to learn how others who are using KeePassXC are syncing there databases with iPhone.

[1] https://gist.github.com/jftuga/0265e5403d56373662b9513d8816e...
Ask HN: Who'll take ownership of AI's mistakes?
A lot many companies are being formed with AI automation of Enterprise spcae, lots of optimism around chained together AI agents autonomously working together without much human intervention.

Genuine question - if traditional software makes mistake, its usually deterministic, debugable, fixable and a blame can be assigned.

What's the deal with these autonomous AI agents? Let's say analysing customes paperwork to schedule some shipments from overseas and it fails to let a shipment in because it misclassified or worse, lets it it but being it on the shores under certain conditions leads to heavy financial penalties?

Who's responsible? The AI prompt automation engineer? Or the underlying platform? Or the company providing model?

If the answer is that each outcome of such model should be double checked by a human while going through all that paperwork than what's the point of having that automation in the first place?

EDIT: typos
Why wouldn't Microsoft be able to?

Microsoft seems to have lost all internal cohesion and the ability to focus the entire company in one direction. It's just a collection of dozens of small fiefdoms only caring about hitting their own narrow KPIs with no overall strategic vision. Just look at the mess of competing interest that Windows 11 and Edge have turned into.
> How is working at NIST not "going to DC and working for the people at government wages"?

It is. I’m saying the sole evidence of outcome I could find was his staff revolting.

> Alignment Research Center is, in fact, a 501(c)3 charity, here is their Form 990

Thank you, I stand corrected. (Christiano’s compensation is an admirable zero.)

> every.org is just a generic non-profit payment processor

Sure, and given ARC and METR are 501(c)(3)s, it’s fine. Charity to charity. If either weren’t, and were simply non-profits, it would mean a charity was lending its tax-exempt status to a non-charity. That would be sketchy. But as you’ve shown, it’s not what’s going on here.
Computers can't play Chess

Computers can't play Go

Computers can't do Math
There is a general idea that people would like a free lunch.

At the gym people would like one simple trick to buff. In robotics one simple trick to make whatever they want.

I see the same in software where people build behemoths like SAP or other ERP so customer could configure whatever they want and don’t have to hire those expensive developers - just to hire expensive consultants because it is so complex anyway that you need a specialist.
You would use OpenAPI (formerly Swagger) [1] for that, which includes JSONSchema for data types but also adds specs for defining REST apis. There are plenty of generators and other tools that work with OpenAPI [2]

[1] https://www.openapis.org/

[2] https://openapi-generator.tech/
Yay more shitgpt all over my life
> so basically in your opinion the main thing that makes iOS better than Android is that Apple has tighter control over the apps?

What Apple loves to make us believe is that Vendor, AppStore and ContentFilter are not three entirely orthogonal concepts that can be totaly separated from each other.

You can have:

- Company A be the hardware Vendor

- Company B host the App Store

- Company C be the provider of the ContentFilter
https://mrgan.com/ai-email-from-a-friend/
I wonder - if you're not an iPhone user, will Macs soon just not really be for you anymore? I don't care about iPhone integration, Siri, or Apple's AI.
Shift key. Disable stickykeys in advance.
Nah, I want it. I use it all the time to do things like translate obscure Kanji and learn more about certain religious texts.

For example:
https://chatgpt.com/share/4a31c79b-a380-4fa0-9808-8145e3cfb4...

LLMs are very useful and very helpful, certainly more helpful than ony searching the web. Watching people apply the crypto lens to it is unfortunate for them, it's not a waste of electricity like most crypto, and it isn't useless output.
Not all (or most) people-problems can be solved with software. Recruiting/hiring is a pure people-problem. No two people are the same. No two groups of people (i.e., companies) are the same. It's a "problem" that everyone has felt, but it honestly seems like an unsolvable problem... and "problem" mostly likely isn't even the right word - more of an uncomfortable reality.
Yup, this is the fascinating thing to me. Looking forward to some detailed comparisons between the two architectures.
> which is not what the market wants

I'm sure the market wants more than two providers.

> (because if they did, Apple would have gone out of business already).

The market of "low hanging fruit."

> or just outright fail (i.e. BlackBerry).

AT&T made a deal with Apple which should have been stopped by regulators.
I agree with you from one perspective, but on the other side steam made a drm that it's possible to bypass, while still complying, to allow selling games that wouldn't have been available on gog otherwise.

What I think they are doing is pushing toward what would be good, but doing that very slowly.

I wish gog worked well with the steam deck, and had all the cool steam stuff for controllers and linux support, but they aren't doing any of that.
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they're going to be using nvidia (or maybe AMD if they ever catch up) to train these models anyways
Those were Windows PCs, not phones.
Steve Jobs famously said Dropbox is a feature not a product. This feels very much like it.
Summarization was implemented everywhere because it was the easiest AI feature to ship when a VP screamed "Do AI, so our C-suite can tell investors we're an AI company!"
> Or is this like sports teams recycling the same 30 coaches?

This.

The valley is nothing but a machine. Feed young engineers in one end and spit unicorns out the other. The same players make it all go.
That's not very convincing! He's only talking about falsifying it vs extensions of quantum theory. The interesting question is whether it can be falsified vs other interpretations of quantum theory.
> Another bought a laptop by taking out a stablecoin loan on a DeFi platform when no bank would lend to him.

Could someone explain this to me — I thought that loans on cryptocurrency platforms had to be collateralized by cryptocurrency? How could someone buy a house with a crypto loan if they didn’t already have enough to buy one in the first place?
> Maybe just link to the actual source (https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/google.html) rather than some random social media post?

I did submit that and it was DOA, and I saw that there was another post of the original which was also DOA, so I submitted the post where I saw the reference.
Also on HN recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40608332
Yeah. But even for Mac it's always been more of a technical utility app. When I say that it feels more akin to Disk Utility than the Notes app (in terms of who it's meant for).
I have been fighting switching to the SaaS version. Paying a monthly fee for access to my passwords is highway robbery. I do not want/need any of these other "services" they forced upon me. I have trying Apples keychain, but that migration is slow and a total pain in the ass. And it's not even a good replacement.

I'm sure 1Password doesn't care one iota about loosing individual users with attitudes like this. Until the forced to a monthly rent seeking hand in my pocket policy was deployed, I had been a vocal advocate for 1Pass. Now, they're about to loose me altogether
It's mostly the screenshots things that get people. Semantic search is ok if the index is properly secured and privacy is a concern. And localized context is ok too (summarizing one web page does not screenshot my whole screen). I believe Microsoft has gone with building the easiest option (recording everything) instead of thinking about better contextual integration.
I'm having trouble finding the perfect way to articulate the idea, so here's the half-assed version.

Whatever it is that I, and everyone, likes about iPhones/iPads, it has absolutely nothing to do with Apple deciding that I'm too stupid to get to override what software to install on it.
You misunderstand.

They will go off device without asking you, they just ask if you want to use ChatGPT.
That actually looks pretty good aside from the time limit..
It takes me a while to 'get in the zone' - and especially with you base datastructures you wanna think about it a bit as it has
real ramifications on how hard/easy everything else can be.

Still, seems better then most of the 'leet code' type stuff I see :-)
>We pay all workers their fair share of the socially necessary production time.

What is a "fair share"? Suppose we're in a SaaS business. Does someone working in customer support earn more or less than a SWE? What makes the difference (or lack thereof) fair?

>If the organization needs surplus to invest in equipment, we requisition it from the production with consensus from the workers.

What is a "consensus"? What if 2/3rds of the people want to invest but the other 1/3rd doesn't? Would they forced to contribute? Are how are you going to "out maneuver the pudding headed capitalists" if you can only seek to raise capital from your employees?
> Apple also has the means to build data center training hardware using apple silicon if they want to do so.

> If they are serious about the OAI partnership they could also start to supply them with cloud inference hardware and strongarm them into only using apple servers to serve iOS requests

Apple addressed both these points in today’s preso.

1. They will send requests that require larger contexts to their own Apple Silicon-based servers that will provide Apple devices a new product platform called Private Cloud Compute.

2. Apple’s OS generative AI request APIs won’t even talk to cloud compute resources that do not attest to infrastructure that has a publicly available privacy audit.
> I'm saying that the safety of suburbs is overstated due to the higher number of vehicle miles travelled.

Let's see..

Representing city: traffic fatalities in San Francisco in 2021: 30 [0]

Representing suburbia: traffic fatalities in Palo Alto in 2020: 4 [1]

(On a quick search I didn't find stats for exact same year, but these are pretty close for a sense of scale.)

[0] https://www.sfgov.org/scorecards/transportation/traffic-fata...

[1] https://www.city-data.com/accidents/acc-Palo-Alto-California...
Youtube premium is insanely good value for money if you're at all a regular Youtube user. And content creators get paid significantly more for Premium views than ad supported views.
Lack of Linux support and i'm not sure if it handles storing files (eg pdfs) is what would hold me from adopting this.

I use 1pass across all platforms.
I'll go a step further and say that users should be able to distribute software without needing to get apple's approval. Instead we get the lie of "_ is damaged and can't be opened. You should move it to the Trash."
Is this the reason that Chromium based browsers always change font sizes for me on here? Since I'm visually impaired and have set my text sizing pretty large, I have that issue on multiple sites, including Hacker News. It's a bit of a gamble how large text will be when I refresh the page.
> How are you dealing with this?

I help to make a podcast, called cybershow.uk

I hope it entertains, informs and emboldens people feeling
existential anxiety as you describe.
It is, however, very much Apple's philosophy to wait it out and let others mature a technology before making use of it.
I'm another TripleByte placement.

After my (virtual) TB interview (which I barely passed), I had onsites at 5 places. After the five on-site interviews, I had 2 job offers, one of which was a company I wanted to work for since graduating college. I took the other offer.

This was preceded by a four or five month job search. I had received two offers in that time, but nothing seemed great.

I think TB's process kinda worked, but I understand your skepticism.
Watch the keynote, it's all clearly explained and you don't need to learn about it from HN comments.
you really enjoy paying each month for access to your passwords? really?
Obligatory IANAL and speaking mainly from an American understanding.

"Fair", "reasonable", and "non-discriminatory" all have clearly defined legal definitions, which are not necessarily aligned with commonly understood or dictionary-defined definitions.

The only thing that ultimately matters is the letter of the law. If the letter is contrary to the spirit, the law should be rewritten.
yup.. and thats good for the consumers as well because they don't have to worry about their private data sitting on open ai servers.
I can only imagine Apple has some kind of siloing agreement with OpenAI, Apple can easily afford whatever price to do so.
California agg laws ban most eggs produced in the US, which makes them much more expensive.
At my workplace they recently enabled Microsoft's Copilot which is basically OpenAI + RAG.

It's a joke. It is painful to watch how slow it types. About 30% of the time it doesn't work at all. I asked it how big a particle accelerator would have to be to have 1 PeV protons and it got the right equation for the radius of the ring but it told me the ring would be like 10^34 meters in radius which is about 10^24 times too many because it got the units totally wrong.

It is completely unable to help a person get 5kg of antimatter, make a nuclear weapon or a deadly virus that will kill everybody because... it can't. People are afraid it will try so it has been taught to claim that it won't do these things.

It is also completely unable to put a list of items (say 20 or more) in a specified order. For instance it falls down on "list isotopes that decay by emitting a positron in order of half-life" or "list US states in order of how many characters in its name", etc. It can't do it any more than it can help you get 5kg of antimatter, but it lies and says that it can, will attempt and get it wrong, apologize when you point this out, try again, get it wrong again, endlessly. If you like pushing bubbles around under a rug, gen A.I. is really for you.

Now yes, LLMs can solve difficult problems in information extraction (say relationship extraction) that we were lost at sea with 5 years ago. But intelligence, truth and such are all difficult philosophical concepts.

People who know better act insulted when I remind them that neural networks don't repeal the laws of computer science (e.g. Godel, Turing and all that.) They can't make P=NP, they can't solve the very serious problems of logic + arithmetic that Godel warns about, but they are very good at telling you something that will bypass your defenses (I think this comes out of picking the "most likely" word because it won't surprise you) and that you want to hear (what else is RLHF?)

One real danger of LLMs is that they are better at seduction than we are because they don't have a self to manifest itself and get in the way. I am very worried about LLMs taking over dating sites, being used to run "pig butchering" scams and similar sorts of evil.

See

https://www.amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden...

to get some idea of how LLMs could appear to be 95% of the way there but still be structurally wrong to solve real-life problems that involve logic, arithmetic and everything else.
> Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud Compute cryptographically ensures that iPhone, iPad, and Mac do not talk to a server unless its software has been publicly logged for inspection.

Technically, the sentence could be read that experts inspect the code, and the client uses TLS and CA's to ensure it's only talking to those Apple servers. But that's pretty much the status quo and uninteresting.

It sounds like they're trying to say that somehow iPhone ensures that it's only talking to a server that's running audited code? That would be absolutely incredible (for more things than just running LLMs), but I can't really imagine how it would be implemented.
Paper > email for these purposes
Strongbox app and storing the database in iCloud Drive.
I truly hope the reckless enthusiasm for LLMs will cool down, but it seems plausible that discretized, compressed versions of today's cutting-edge models will eventually be able to run entirely locally, even on mobile devices; there are no guarantees that they'll get better, but many promising opportunities to get the same unreliable results faster and with less power consumption. Once the models run on-device, there's less of a financial motivation to pull the plug, so we could be stuck with them in one form or another for the long haul.
I'm confused now... Apple's other announcement today discussed on-device AI.

So what sorts of queries will be on-device and what will be sent to OpenAI? How does this distinction appear in the UI?
Because media and game console publishers don't want you to be able to run games they haven't distributed (because they force game developers to work with game publishers, and game publishers to agree to all sorts of terms), or programs that can access media and games in a way they don't want you to.

If you think Apple is bad, wait until you see Sony's terms for publishing a crossplatform game on Playstation (Xbox is a bit better.) The agreement they force publishers to sign has all sorts of stipulations, including rules that require payments when PSN users spend more on the PC version of a game than they do the Playstation version, and a prohibition on moving purchased cosmetics to accounts on other platforms.

Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft - all of them would be dead set against third party stores. So would all the media conglomerates (that Sony doesn't own.)

Many software developers would also be against it. If you sell an app on the iOS store, you're virtually guaranteed it won't be pirated. That guarantee goes away the second iOS devices can use third party stores and run any app.

That TPM chip in every x86 system? That isn't there for you, friend (although now it can be used to store FDE keys.) TPM was for storing the keys to decrypt media files.

People seem to keep forgetting that many of the security systems in MacOS and Windows aren't designed for your security, but the security of licensed content.
> It's just an SSH connection, the risk is quite low

Yeah just a secure shell what ever could go wrong with code you don't understand? Probably nothing much right?
Likewise, Dearrow is also a must have to kill the horrible clickbait YouTube incentivizes.

https://sponsor.ajay.app/

https://dearrow.ajay.app/
> Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device.

Apple also has a long track record of "you're holding it wrong". I don't expect an amazing AI assistant out of them, I expect something that sometimes does what the user meant.
I really hope so. I don’t trust OpenAI and I’d really rather not have any integrations with them on any of my devices.