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> I saw Dave’s behavior as a challenge, a call to action. And it was at that moment that the gender difference became most apparent to me.

Oh, for fuck's sake, how is some Dave being jerk is making gender difference apparent? The guy was at the wrong place, and was being a show-off. But no, you must attribute it to his gender.

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As pointed out by threads below, the author was talking about how the room tuned out when Dave started derailing conversation, and he saw it as call to arms. The author sees this as apparent gender difference - FWIW I don't agree with his assessment. As long as we are talking anecdotes, I couldn't see a clear patterns(based on gender or any other trait) in the reactions of the people I know to this scenario.

I am leaving my incorrect comment as there are replies, and the replies will become meaningless if I remove it.
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> Looking at her screen, she’d made significant progress towards finishing the project, but when she asked me a question she giggled and told me she had no idea what the project was about, or what to do.

> Studies have shown that especially bright women have this reaction to difficult material and that women learning computer science do better in an single sex classroom (though those studies have critics).

I think you are better off not basing off your approach on some controversial study. If you are compartmentalizing, no two students are same. And if you are generalizing, I find it hard to believe that 3291805000 females of the world show the same behavioral and learning traits. Unless you have proved it otherwise, I would stick to a feedback based approach where I see how students are coping up, and then introduce variations.
So, this is the second story in about a month about crazy sexist stuff going on at industry events in Scandinavia. The Dell thing I thought was beyond the pale; but this seems to be in good fun.

What's up with Scandinavia?
I'm a big fan of that approach. Betterexplained.com uses the method.
I used to be like Dave. Then I turned 13. Empathy is a great thing.
Why is it that every time I ask a question another method (possibly the answer) occurs to me. In this particular case, the answer was to use another browser. I had been using FireFox so I switched to Chrome with nearly instant gratification. Don't know or care about FF's problem, just care about changing the dead (dangerously so) password. Done and done. Sorry to waste a bit of HN's bandwidth.
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This was Microsoft, not Scandinavia. Noone was impressed by what they did. Apart from this, it was a great conference.
This. This is a wonderful idea.

(In fact, in my evil little mind, I might be tempted to send a Dave to a table just a bit above him, to show him that he's only hot shit in his own mind.)
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From sohn, who is dead:

"That's bullshit. What if my connection is slow and I want to leave the page loading whilst I do some other things."
Well, I'm from Sweden and it's in just as poor taste over here. I suppose someone must've been looking for the cheapest dance/song-group available.
This article begs the question: why do women respond disproportionately badly to the "helpful jerk"?
>Oh, for fuck's sake, how is some Dave being jerk is making gender difference apparent?
>The guy was at the wrong place, and was being a show-off.
>But no, you must attribute it to his gender.

If you read the article again, you may find that the gender difference which became apparent to the author has to do with the /response/ to Dave's behaviour, and not with his behaviour /per se/.

Also, here is a (perhaps interesting) thought experiment: Among the folks you know well enough, how many would care to respond to an opinion in a discussion forum which starts off with the words "Oh, for fuck's sake" ? How do the women fare in this count? Is there a gender difference?
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Cool. So what does this mean it can do? Run iPhone OS apps?
All of these metrics are terrible for tracking productivity. Each one can be gamed and would become inversely correlated with productivity if there was any incentive to maximise them.
Better for whom, exactly? Clearly not better for the people who could have been helped in the meantime.
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That's not a call for single-sex education. That's a call for good teachers who are willing to crack down on the class clown. There's always a class clown, and he always needs to be cracked down upon for the good of the class. This is teaching 101. Sorry you didn't have a good teacher.

>Dave was really excited by the class, and, like me and the other volunteers, had a lot of experience with Python.

Sounds like Dave was in the wrong class and should have been told so.

>I wondered afterwards why this extremely competent woman in her 20s would react this way after clearly mastering the material.

That's a learned technique for getting assistance. It worked on you, didn't it?
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I may be missing something, but I don't see how this is interesting or useful in any way...
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Whether you are in favor or against it, and whether the content is moral or not, actively preventing content to be accessible is censorship. If anything, it requires a blocking infrastructure to be put in place.
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Given that IME most women's eyes immediately glaze over when the word "computer" is mentioned, I doubt that "our community isn’t great at encouraging women contributors" is the reason why few women are in computing.
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Just ask the jerk to stop asking questions and making remarks. You're trying to teach a class and that involves input and interaction of all students, not just the one. As a teacher you are responsible for the learning climate in the room and you can act accordingly.

If the jerk doesn't like that, (s)he can leave.
That's why we do not see more women involved with software, and I am not talking about Dave.

I am talking about both, the writer and Dave.

Why do you think most women stick to managing projects instead of being involved in Free Software?

Too much drama. Too much shit to cope with, that involves dicks and egos.

In the article we assume that Dave was a jerk (and it probably was). But, see, the author was in a comfortable position, when suddenly another man entered the room, and started to go alpha and everything turned into an ego battle.
Wall-E was pretty atypical for Pixar, and I believe their least successful movie.
Great comment. Someone should've told Dave to leave. This is less of a matter of teaching than of administration.
When I loaded the page it was mostly blank. As soon as I Zoomed out the browser, the page loaded properly.

Might have been a browser issue. Chrome 19.0.1084.54 on Lion.
Even if you got perfect grades on everything you did, how is that special? Perhaps you merely provided the expected answers and work to everything. Being special should involve doing something untested, maybe even scoring badly on the tests in the meantime.
Well, back in the day, before you'd even set your fingers to a keyboard, there was this teenager in Brazil who thought he was a great hacker.

He hacked into a porno site and the operators found out who he was and called his home. He's like "Ok, Ok, I'll stop, just don't call my mom."

Well, I'm working with some guys running a voice chat site and one day he starts giving us trouble. Our CEO gets the phone number from the guys who ran the porno site. This time they call and his mom answers.

Moral: lamers come in all ages.

Generalizing about programmers attitudes, ambitions and talents based on their age is one of the most harmful things you can do.

I know a guy who's a 60-something who can't really retire because he built a new printer interface for IBM mainframes. New York State found that the standard printer interface wasn't fast enough to print out their paperwork fast enough to satisfy legal requirements. He designed the hardware and wrote device drivers in Macro Assembler.

They can't find anybody, at any age, who can maintain this.

He's only on call for occasional assignments but he can afford to spend half his time in Hawaii and half in upstate.
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I think they have highs and lows. Wall-E was pretty much everything I would want in a big budget movie, but it wasn't a megahit. Then I see the previews for Brave, which looks dreadfully bad, and I can't help but think the company is changing.
That's not evil. That's exactly how I would want to be treated in a class. I don't want to learn from people who know less than me, I want to learn from people who know more than me!
Wait, do you speak of the Eastern Orthodox Church[1]?

I'm middle eastern(Lebanese to be precise) and a very large segment of the Christian population here belongs to various Orthodox churches(Greek, Antiochian, Armenian and Syriac) and none of them, to my knowledge at least -- and I've talked to quite a few priests and bishops having worked as a missionary in Aleppo for a year -- deny evolution. I have never heard a single teaching in church(or outside of it by some church official) that denied evolution. In fact, those I've talked to who were versed on the subject usually treated evolution as fact. None of the whole "theory" hogwash.

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Oh, of course. But it will still take less time than you think. After trying a common dictionary the attacker just starts brute-forcing every single combination and since md5 is so quick and works so well on the GPU that it may take mere hours to find the answer. I've personally had what I considered a secure password cracked out of a sha1 + salt setup. Now I use LastPass and generate random different 32 character passwords for every service I use. LinkedIn leak does not affect me: 32 chars is enough to give me a day or two to change my password and none of my other accounts are compromised even if the attacker gets my LinkedIn password.
The part of the post that intrigued me was when she...

"[Looked] at her screen, she’d made significant progress towards finishing the project, but when she asked me a question she giggled and told me she had no idea what the project was about, or what to do.

Why?

I still don’t know the reason. Studies have shown that especially bright women have this reaction to difficult material and that women learning computer science do better in an single sex classroom (though those studies have critics)."

On a similar Hacker News post, "In Math You Have to Remember, In Other Subjects You Can Think About It" the author paraphrases from a book "What's Math Got To Do With It?", in which he states that a student

"... called Rebecca, was conscientious, motivated, and smart, and regularly attained A+ grades in mathematics. She was able to follow the methods her teacher demonstrated in class, and could reproduce them perfectly. But she did not understand what she was doing, and as a result she regarded herself as not good at math. When Boaler asked her why she thought that, she replied, "Because I can't remember things well and there is so much to remember." [p.164.]"

Coincidentally both subjects are female but I think it's part of an underlying theme on learning and developing critical thinking skills that is playing out across this country. And the consequences of this lack/challenge differs on how one is taught.
Actively blocking websites requires some infrastructure to be in place, and the underlying fear is that this infrastructure gets abused at some point, whether by introduction of new laws or unintentionally through bribery or incompetence. The previous french President Sarkozy was actively looking at putting much more than child pornography in such blocking systems, in very vague and worrisome wordings of which a translation could be "along with any illegal or order-troubling website".

Also, the worry is that the risk and cost of such an infrastructure is too high, especially considering the target has already moved and such blocks are completely inefficient.

Ironically, just at the time when European MPs decided that any form of censorship is bad and net neutrality matters, council turns around.

PS: When submitting the link I tried to be as neutral as possible within the 80 chars limit, precisely to spur constructive discussion.
> That's a learned technique for getting assistance. It worked on you, didn't it?

I was going to point out the same thing. A women playing dumb to get help from a man, is not uncommon at all.
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Yes, it has to do with the response, but I can't agree with the main point of it which is due to selection bias I think (not gender differences):

To me, and I suspect most men, we’d see Dave’s behavior
as a call to arms. Dave was raising the stakes and even
though his behavior was clearly rude, it also demonstrated
that he had a mastery over the material.

If this is the core of the article's point, I don't agree with it. People such as "Dave" waste everyone's time, it doesn't really matter what gender Dave and his audience are. When I encounter a Dave, I don't see it as a pointless "call to arms", I tune out and ultimately leave. I'm not wasting my time fighting people like Dave. I don't like how the article implies this makes me less of a man. It's simply good sense in my opinion not to waste your energy on trolls.

If there are groups where everyone feels challenged and is in a fighting mood after seeing Dave in action, it's probably because everyone else already left the room or had the sense not to come to the event in the first place.
Unfortunately, that tends to lead to vary stale comments which hinders the next developer.
I think if we all at HN were born in the '30s or '40s, we would be tinkering with cars instead of computers. Likewise, if the Magliozzi brothers were born in our generation, they would be here with us on HN.
Stunts like this must take a lot of people and a lot of time to set up. Here's my question: could someone explain exactly how this kind of stuff moves from idea to execution to performance without anyone raising an enormous red flag?
I wasn't claiming his numbers are correct; I have no idea. I was just explaining that he wasn't quoting street prices, but wholesale prices. And the "price to grower" might not be the price paid by the street dealer, but by the distributor who sells to the local distributor who sells to the dealer. That's what I meant by the distribution chain. Just like the vegetables in your local supermarket are not, in most cases, purchased by the store manager directly from the farmer. The markup $600/lb --> $200/oz would not surprise me at all, after the weed passes through three or four levels of distribution.
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Bear with me, this won't seem immediately relevant, but I'll get to the point.

I have at various times created solvers and helpers for the sorts of logic puzzles you sometimes see in newspapers alongside the crosswords -- you can find a bunch of them online and with many of them, the limiting problem is simply time investment for applying automatic, pithy little rules. Just as an example, I wrote a helper script in Greasemonkey at one point for large versions of http://www.puzzle-loop.com/ , the rules of which are "You have to draw lines between the dots to form a single loop without crossings or branches. The numbers indicate how many lines surround it." It's very satisfying to click once and then see an algorithm performing all of the drudge-work, leaving you to focus on the really interesting bits which you haven't yet been able to articulate as rules. One interesting problem in the above link is knowing when you're about to create a region which only has an odd number of ends inside of it. I found a very pretty way to do this in most cases.

The central problem of the translation computer is that often, knowing which translation of word W is important depends on understanding the context around W, sometimes out a couple of sentences. The central problem of understanding the context of W, however, would demand a much more holistic approach than the above translation program seems to provide.

The problem in both is precisely a declarative/imperative divide. We are very good at working out, given the adequacy conditions for the solution (the "rules of the game"), what sorts of automatic reflex actions we can do (the "moves" of the game, I suppose). We know the rules, we figure out the moves. Ideally, we would like to just tell a computer the rules of chess without specifying that there is something called 'value' of a piece, and that the computer should find values for e.g. the loss of a knight in comparison to the loss of a bishop. It should be able to work out the principles of effective play, if we want true machine learning.

It is my contention, to tie this all together, that without something which appears like machine learning, we won't have anything which appears like machine understanding, and that a machine translation would appear like a machine understanding, due to context-sensitivity in translation: you will hand it "Knives were good for helping humans to hunt" and it will accidentally translate "good" as the equivalent for "ethical" rather than the more-likely-intended "efficient", because it correlates "helping" and "humans" with ethics.
"That's a call for good teachers who are willing to crack down on the class clown. There's always a class clown, and he always needs to be cracked down upon for the good of the class. This is teaching 101. Sorry you didn't have a good teacher."

Most of the people who lecture at these events are programmers, not folks who have a masters in teaching along with their state certification.
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As another anecdote I was at PyGotham yesterday. When I stopped by at the beginners track in the afternoon I counted 35 men and 4 women.
Well I guess the overall improvement must be worth images not loading on this page and whining on HN. So, what's the problem again? O you think your setup should be added as an edge case, sorry non standard setups are often not worth catering to. If you want it to work just enable scrips, it's not that hard.
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> Please don't write out what the programming language constructs do in English.

Exactly this. Comment the why, not the what.
I wonder if they do.

I've seen a room full of men respond exactly the same way.
The word that popped into my head when I read the OP was "bullying".

A few additional thoughts:

1. You're going to lose out on good people. GOOD people will see a toxic environment and run like hell. Who wants to work like that?

2. The people you manage to hire under "the cloud" may not be the ones that you want. I've seen people work in precarious situations, and I was not impressed with their capabilities or integrity. In the top echelon their work and ethics seemed to mirror the screwed-up environment they were in. In the ranks, moral was terrible and there was no loyalty, only fear.

My "cloud" was such that I felt I might be fired any day, for roughly a year. It turned out to be a phantom -- when I talked to our director a few years later she said, "You really took that seriously?"

Years later what I went through is still negatively affecting how I work. Don't get me wrong, things are going fine externally, but I could feel a whole lot better about the politics, the annual review madness, and interactions that involve managers.

It sucks to live in fear. Don't do this to your employees.
I think this quote is relevant:

“One of my mentors asked me what was better – to spend 10 hours in front of the TV or to spend 10 hours doing other activities. Of course, I said the latter – there are few things I think that are worse than just sitting in front of the TV. Wrong, he said. It makes no difference – because what matters is how intensely you do any of those activities. It’s how much intensity you inject into those 10 hours rather than how you superficially spend them. If you watch TV intensely, with purpose, for 10 hours, you probably spent those 10 hours well.”[0]

I acknowledge that watching with purpose and flipping channels are different things—the point is, maybe what you do matters not as much as how you do it.

Perhaps watching TV is an activity that by its nature discourages any purpose and intensity, while reading has opposite effect? (Although I totally can read with my mind half-off, so it probably depends on an individual.)

[0] http://thescenicroute0.wordpress.com/2011/12/10/passion-make...
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