skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Although it is very common for laypeople to be told that Ada is the "first programmer" in some sense, I don't find that very convincing at all. For Ada this was purely an intellectual exercise.

Grace's machine really existed, and her insight really works, even if today we would not call what she initially built a "compiler". The machine processes data, the program is data, have the machine process the program. This is recursively meta-applicable, and it's notable that rather than being something higher ups or intellectuals had specified should be done, Grace was being entirely practical.

When you write some typescript inside a C# program today and then somehow in a web browser the equivalent code ends up executed by its JS engine, that's all the fruit of Grace's insight just applied over, and over, and over.
Never knew, always assumed it was just a render. Very cool!
Is there even a general consensus on likeness protection? I’m not gonna defend OAI ever now, but tbh the concept of likeness feels too stretched to me. If one naturally looks, sounds or behaves like the other, do they violate their rights? How can likeness be illegal if it’s not a direct theft of their work? Are photos of movie stars illegal to print? Where does likeness end? Is likeness yours even or does it live in people’s minds?

I can make enough arguments and counterarguments, but this whole thing doesn’t sound convincing. If I want to change my voice to sound like Michael Jackson and walk like him, no one’s business if I do that and publicly.

I understand the concerns of “looks and sound” models here, but the reality changes with time and thick ice becomes thin, you have to adapt too. Progress isn’t responsible for everyone’s job, especially if it’s built on such an ephemeral concept. That only worked for a while.
Which is not as similar as people keep saying though: both that case, and Bette Midler's involved singers, who perform as themselves and are their own brand.

Consider when a company recasts a voice actor in something: i.e. the VA Rick and Morty have been replaced, Robin Williams was not the voice of genie in Aladdin 2 or the animated series.
So if I have a company that sells, say, manure, I can search and hire a voice actress that sounds exactly like Scarlett to promote me in radio ads? And write a tweet that vaguely implies that it's really her?
Goes to character
this is precisely the kind of shitposting that 10x my understanding of things I don’t fully through…traditional methods
> For search engines, I suggest giving Metager a try

Cool, might as well give it a go while Ecosia is down. Thanks.
> Suddenly you're being used in commercials, political campaigns, spam, or whatever.

That's a deepfake problem but not porn problem. "Deepfake == porn" characterization is not helpful if those are the real problems.
@sama has done a good job at portraying himself as an elon/zuck hybrid visionary. he's either going to deliver on the agi promise or be the next @sbf_ftx. there's no in between.
> it's not Scarlett Johansson's voice and therefore not her property

It's not her voice. But it may have been intended to sound like her voice. (I believe this less than twenty-four hours ago, but I'm hesitant to grant Altman the benefit of doubt.)

If it were her voice, would you agree that seems distasteful?

> one that sounds similar, but is different, and thus belongs to the true voice actress

They marketed it as her voice when Altman tweeted Her.
Imaging this to be such a legal minefield, can't sell my own voice because a celeb sounds a bit alike as my own voice.
The jury will decide on the latter.

At any rate, Altman made clear allusions to hint that they are capable of synthesizing ScarJo's voice as a product feature. The actress retaliated saying she verbally did not consent, and now OpenAI's defense is that they hired a different actress anyway.

...which means they lied to everyone else on the capabilities of the tech, which is y'know, even worse
No she just has to do so without promoting it as having been done by Scarlett Johansson.
The Midler case is readily distinguishable. From Wikipedia:

> Ford Motor created an ad campaign for the Mercury Sable that specifically was meant to inspire nostalgic sentiments through the use of famous songs from the 1970s sung by their original artists. When the original artists refused to accept, impersonators were used to sing the original songs for the commercials. Midler was asked to sing a famous song of hers for the commercial and refused. Subsequently, the company hired a voice-impersonator of Midler and carried on with using the song for the commercial, since it had been approved by the copyright-holder. [1]

If you ask an artist to sing a famous song of hers, she says no, and you get someone else to impersonate her, that gets you in hot water.

If you (perhaps because you are savvy) go to some unknown voice actress, have her record a voice for your chatbot, later go to a famous actress known for one time playing a chatbot in a movie, and are declined, you are in a much better position. The tweet is still a thorn in OA's side, of course, but that's not likely to be determinative IMO (IAAL).

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
> It doesn't seem practical to kill every nuclear physicist and destroy every copy of every document that describes nuclear physics. I don't see how climate change could do this.

It's actually very simple: climate change destroys crops and then people kill each other for food. I don't expect physicists to survive. Thugs will. And thugs can't read physics books.

PS: Microprocessors and nuclear physiscs knowlegdge is not that well distributed. I expect there are only a few hundred people in the world who know how it's done and each knows a tiny piece of it. For example one knows MCU design, but knows absolutely nothing about silicon waffers manufacturing. If they don't meet - no complete complete knowledge to build a microprocessor.
> Continue using the "not-her" voice but say it was her? Or did they also have her voice already cloned by then and just needed to flip a switch?

One or the other. It doesn't really matter as SJ herself would not have necessarily been able to make sure it is not her and not a glitch in how the tech work with her voice.
That's interesting, for me Lisps, Python or TS (or Go) are great for playing around with things and developing bottom-up. And then I translate that to Haskell (or Rust or C++ or Go).
> That’s effectively what’s happening here, and it isn’t illegal.

It is more complicated than that. Check out Midler v. Ford Motor Co, or Waits V. Frito Lay.
Comparison of File Systems
A friend who studied engineering at MIT made a similar distinction, and it's where I expected the article to go, being hosted there.

The notion was that the development of engines, as opposed to simpler motors and mechanical systems, had required a net set of skills that led to a recognizably different discipline. More systematic, more concerned with dynamics and feedbacks, cross-disciplinary to materials and machining techniques, more data driven, more advanced mathematic and analytic techniques in support of these. The sense was simpler mechanical systems were more linear and engines were highly non-linear, and required a different mindset to approach.

I like the distinction and appreciate the different terms.
I am surprised to see a pro-copyright take on HN :)
This is part of the Russian propaganda way of engaging on social media.

The common patterns are:

- they make bold and elaborate claims, filled with resentment from random past events (usually pinned on the US, or if they're in a rough spot they go back to the colonialism of the past centuries of some countries) - but completely out of context. Example: "Why can't Russia invade Ukraine but the US invaded Iraq!", "Why can't Russia expand borders but Western countries had colonies all over the world?"

- they claim you're lying, then proceed to lie without providing sources;

- they distort reality with lies, like : "Russia didn't kidnap 25.000 children, they evacuated them from a war zone" -> ignoring the fact that Russia was the cause of the war, they could allow Ukrainians to evacuate their children, and they should have returned the children.

And the list goes on, but its all very child-like, empty of content, they can write several paragraphs without saying anything.
Kids being smart normally means they are _more_ intelligent than the others. Computers, compared to average humans are dumb as rocks.
Openai never claimed it was Scarlett Johansson though. They didn't trick anyone.
You misunderstand how personality rights work.

Called it in the other thread and calling it in this one, there is no wrongdoing on OpenAI's side.

Looking/sounding like somebody else (even if its famous) is not prosecutable. Scarlet Johansson has nothing in this case, whether people like it or not. That's the reality.
Why is "Murders your wife" one of the columns and why did Reiser4 and ReiserFS qualify?
It wasn't that ago when I has figured out how to mix/max overdraft checking because I was so damn broke. I'd over draw my account by $980, the overdraft fee was $20, and my account would be -$1000. Then 29 days later, I'd get a cash advance on my credit card, pay bring the checking account up to $0, and then make a payment to the credit card company for $980. I was slowly digging myself deeper into a hole just so I could hang onto having a bank account.
It's an alternative explanation all right
meanwhile also in Europe, we fund public education systems that do not do for everyone what Sal Khan does for everyone
DuckDuckGo also is unable to provide search results, which seems to confirm they use Bing as a base for their searches.
Are you saying that humans are the only animal capable of learning?
I also sometimes get 500 on Brave Search, but not always? Kagi works fine. Yeah, something is wrong with bing. That’s what you get when you rely on others instead of building your own. A jenga tower. https://xkcd.com/2347/
Better than many online tools, except for collaboration.
Power/Performance Costs in Chip Security
We use this data to improve the base router by default. It's fully anonymized, and you can opt out.
Exactly, that would be absolutely nonsensical.
> The only similarity between the voice and Johansson’s is that it’s female, so by your logic half of California has a case.

My understanding was that the voices sound quite similar. I haven't heard the original Sky voice so don't know. Are there any samples online?
Each event by itself may not be uncommon (but some like learning mathematics from absolute basics to AI/ML requirements via just Khan Academy is well-nigh impossible) but all together happening to one person which led to the claimed outcome is very very highly improbable. Real life doesn't work that way; time, energy(i.e. effort), money are all finite and wax/wane with context/environment and defines success/failure.

Also speaking from my own experience, early in my career for about 3-4 years i lived alone, working a software engineer job by day and attending a computer science course/labs in evening/weekends. The lack of proper sleep/rest/nutrition, constant stress due to work and studies almost broke me. Thankfully i managed to get through that (mainly due to my robust health) but it made me realize that if you don't have a supporting family, proper nutrition/sleep and some sort of support system (i.e. family/friends) to encourage/emphathize/push/pull you as needed there is no way for an average person to overcome all hurdles particularly when they come at you all at once. There is a reason it is impossible to get out of poverty just based on your own efforts without somebody external actively lending you a helping hand via money/opportunity etc.

As the saying goes; "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_claims_require_e...
> Watching television was much more toxic than digital media.

That's a wild take. TV didn't spy on you while you watched it. TV didn't send you a steady stream of notifications that sounded alarms or vibrated in your pocket at various hours even if you weren't at home just to make you feel like you were missing out and to keep you checking back in. TV didn't have microtransactions or lootboxes either. TV wasn't pay to win.

TV didn't have ads targeted to an individual. Ads on TV could only be targeted to a market and to broad demographics (kids before school starts and during cartoons, women in the day and while soaps were airing, etc) and there was some regulation on the kinds of advertising you show children and programing intended for children was developed with oversight from the network. Elsagate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elsagate) was impossible on television. There was too much perl clutching over what kids could see on TV, but these days parents hand their kids a tablet with youtube and they are at the mercy of an algorithm that's designed to show them the most extreme and divisive content.
> Just out of curiosity, what do people mean when they say "publish the algorithm"?

In whatever form it takes such that a regulator can scrutinise it. If that seems arduous or impacts the social media business model, too bad. Nothing of value will have been lost. I am not typically a person who favours over regulation, even my views on AI are likely too liberal for HN, but on the matter of social media impacting children, I'm all in for regulation.
Sorry, but I've been told almost 12x12 times(or more) that "you look familiar, like so-and-so"(where so-and-so has ranged from local friends to celebrities). I don't take any effort to look like anybody. I don't care about the poor celebrities; they make the choice to put themselves in the public eye, and frankly we could stand to have fewer of them. If someone defames my character, I can take legal action if I felt inclined to do so, and that's okay, that's why we have a system of law.
>This statement seems to suggest that feeling embarrassed by one's actions is a normal part of running a company.

It suggests humans makes mistakes and sometimes own up to them - which is a good thing.

> CEO should strive to lead with integrity and foresight to avoid situations that lead to embarrassment.

There is no human who does this , or are you saying turn the CEO role over to AI? :)
No. I had a nasty experience with Typescript's async/await and I am annoyed

I find async/await very confusing. It as one thing pretending to be another

I prefer my paradigms simple and straight

Async await is deceptively simple but very wiggly. Not straight at all. Loads of magic fairy dust obscuring what's really happening

It is helpful until it isn't and then it's very unhelpful
Because Hans Reiser, who authored Reiser4 and ReiserFS, was later convicted of murdering his wife.
I think that will be a very clever and useful defense against CCTV footage and DNA analysis reports! Best legal advice ever.
> because she was in fact directed to act like that

It's still Scarlet Johansons voice and acting. The same role with the same lines read by different actors would be very different. Imagine for example that they would have cast Tilda Swinton for Samantha. Even with the same script it would probably end up a very different character. Actors aren't interchangeable.

It's very clear that OpenAI was trying to make ChatGPT sound like Samantha from Her. Whether they used Scarlet Johansons voice to train, or excerpts from the movie, or had writers come up with typical responses that sound similar to Samantha are details, and it's up to the lawyers to figure out whether this is legal or not.

But the undisputable fact is that OpenAI took heavy inspiration from a movie, and did so without permission. You could argue that taking inspiration from a popular movie is fair game, but I'm not sure where the line is between "inspiration" and a blatant rip-off.
mwahahaha. as if there is some divine "language specification" which all compilers adhere to on pain of eternal damnation.

no such thing ever existed.
I'm not setting the standards, the person I replied to did. Anyone can make up imaginary tech that does amazing imaginary things.
Not if they didn't actually use it, no.
What is the "default background quality setting"? (I'm not a windows user)
ditto for Ecosia.
It was me. I asked it which pigeon has orange beak and it crashed it.
Depending on your personal preference, go with radiomaster pocket/zorro/boxer - ELRS version.
It’s helpful for people who are new to using things on the terminal. I use a similar version with the ctrl+l hotkey, you can do most things on the terminal just by typing english now.

That+fish is an amazing introduction to the shell. Totally new avenue for learning and being immersed quickly.
Along with crops grown and fed to bugs, after all, they need to eat to grow.

There will also be crowding, bugs feeding a country aren't going to be wild harvested, how would you even do that, and we'd need massive quantities.

So disease would be a thing.

And we'd need massive amounts of water too, and we'd have massive amounts of leavings, just as with cattle.

Any "but we can just" scenarios, like using their leavings as fertilizer, can also be done with cattle.

Some bugs are likely smarter that the cattle I've been around, and they feel pain, so what of the bug activists? What of the queen, and the hive mind?

Are we going to claim we know that they aren't feeling pain from crowding, or their situation?

What happens when we harvest in the same area over and over, a massive building just for this? Bugs excrete chemical warnings to communicate, and poison during stress, will these all build up month after month of harvest?

There are endless questions to be resolved, but all I hear is "well we can just...." eat bugs, with no other validation or justification about scale, safety, etc.
except this misses the point of RAII.
Appears to be all planned, as they know ScarJo likes to sue. If they win this case, it will be free play in future for them to hire voice actor/actress that sound like established celebrities.
I've found duckduckgo to be having problems at the moment.
I always used picture-mode for that but i may look at this,
Retro writing 15 – Pomera DM250 (2023)
good on your employee who pulled the plug first and asked questions later-- that's the sign of an organization where people aren't afraid to do the right thing. very scary situation.
Yeah I agree, routing all the time is overkill for some applications, however for others it really is necessary in order to reach the necessary speed and performance for users of your real-time app.

For those who don't want to always route, another core benefit of our platform is simple custom benchmarking on your task across all existing providers:
https://youtu.be/PO4r6ek8U6M

If you then just want to use that provider rather than a router config, then that's fine!
The simple things are simple. Other are possible to do. I don't think that image is representative. "I want to go for a walk, but there's whole world to choose the path from" - you can still go around the block, the world is not in the way. (There are simple, generic read-only and read write policies available)
Sure, but until she made that information public it had no role in OpenAi's advertising of their features. It's like as if Ford hired a Midler's impersonator to sign any other song not originally by her and then she pointed out "well Ford actually wanted to hire me some time ago but I said no". It's like....ok? But you provided no services for them, they didn't use any of your lines, songs or anything else than you produced, the only "crime" here is that they hired someone who sounds like you.
Let me help you ;)
https://unsplash.com/photos/blue-and-white-bird-with-orange-...
I’ve flown internationally for a decade and it was only around 2018-20 I noticed most airlines reminding you to keep your seat belt fastened. Before that it seemed like the exception, not the rule.
I use VS Code for Javascript when I am working on Frontend, but even if all of our backend stack is at least .NET 6, I still prefer using Visual Studio for .NET code. Maybe I am too attuned to keyboard shortcuts in VS, but I also like hitting buttons to launch containers, debug, jump to definitions, run tests and so on. I quite enjoy working in Visual Studio. Also, before using VS for .NET I was using VS for C and C++. Even when I coded in Linux I searched for IDEs instead of text editors.

For git I prefer the command line.

I don't think there's right or wrong, use whatever tool makes you comfortable and productive.
I would like to answer that, but OpenAI could probably spend $100,000 per detractor to crush them and still laugh all the way to the bank.
Alberta separatism
I like Org mode especially. In a world of digital surveillance, AI fueled spyware, SaaS and app stores, emacs based applications are a haven of trust and freedom.
Scrolled down on my pixel 3a XL and the webview crashed
The actress did impersonate Her though.

It's not just a random "voice for your chatbot", it's that particularly breathy, chatty, voice that she performed for the movie.

I would agree with you completely if they'd created a completely different voice. Even if they'd impersonated a different famous actress. But it's the fact that Her was about an AI, and this is an AI, and the voices are identical. It's clearly an impersonation of her work.
Speaking about VMS I wonder why did it disappear. It was so bad compared to Unix?
You could also stay at a hotel.
> Beyond size and aesthetics, is this possible today – or is this no longer possible?

[Non-serious answer] yes, you just need a lot of AA batteries!

[serious answer] yes. For example the raspberry pi uses a “fully featured” Linux OS and it looks like it could run for a few hours according to this [1] forum discussion.

But probably would need specific hardware to run for a long time, and sacrifices in OS features…

[1] https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=3261
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You can sell your voice to whoever you want.

What you can't do is USE that voice in a way that seeks to mislead (by however much) people into believing it is someone else.

I'm really not sure why people can't understand that it is intent that matters.
It wasn't? None of the people I know thought it was Scarlett Johansson.

When Altman tweeted "her" I just thought: "wow, these voices sound really realistic, kinda like the movie"

Is this lawsuit worthy?
It's funny how uncritical protecting of mr Altman became a kind of religion for some, probably because such people might have certain hopes with his product, so they uncontrollably loose themselves in this view that everything he does needs to be cool & right.

But no, he's a human making mistakes. A lot of mistakes, as it turns out
You wouldn’t be the one liable. Any company that hired you might be liable if you sound like a famous voice and the more famous individual had already declined using their voice.

The company would also be liable if they used your voice and claimed it was someone more famous.

Ultimately you’re not liable for having a similar voice because you’re not trying to fool people you’re someone else. It’s the company that hired you who’s doing that.

This is why tribute acts and impressionists are fine…as long as they are clear they’re not the original artist
What's the purpose though?

If it's dji like flying, there's skydio .

If it's fpv racing, freestyle etc ... There are many ready to fly options. Starting at 50 grams all up weight for indoor flying to 5" 200+kmph racers to bigger 7" long range quads..
That worked because the terrorism in question was Islamist - neither Russia, China nor Iran have any desire in having such groups grow powerful enough to be a threat to their interests, so it was in their interest to cooperate enough with the Western nations to quash the threat.
That's what I said. I do use functional programming techniques, I just wonder why functional programming languages don't see a larger following.
The academic literature on smacking children is not load-bearing