skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
But that's exactly what's interesting with this! Everything can't just be viewed through the lens of costs, the effort to make something unnatural like this in real life is part of the art itself.

If you're just looking at the end result, yeah, same result could've been achieved with VFX with a lot less costs, but it also wouldn't have as much value.
not down for me.
> But while many hear an eerie resemblance between “Sky” and Johansson’s “Her” character,

I wonder to what extent it is because they were prompted to listen for that. Would they still hear the resemblance if they didn't know who to compare it to?
It shouldn't take a Vox article to ensure employees basic security over their compensation. The fact that this provision existed at all is exceptionally anti-employee.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't this actually the installer background screen that got repurposed as an option for a wallpaper?
IANAL, but I believe there maybe a "fair use" defense to convey information. I hope this lawsuit is thrown out of German court(s) with the equivalent of "prejudice" so they cannot file additional frivolous lawsuits.
You take my statement far too literally. I thought it came out in the late 90's. Turns out, it was 2006. I was in middle school at the time.
Yen was probably around hundredth of euro or dollar. So it is 100 million or billion worth of very liquid currency. Very likely among the most liquid trade pairs. As such you need to trade big to make money there. Get timing right and you make it, get it wrong and you lose some.
I'm fairly sure the creator hypothesis has been taken care of by science already. There's very few things less "sciency" than giving up and declaring a mysterious creator. The problem is you can invoke the creator at any point you wish, and it doesn't explain anything. Can't make any useful predictions based on assuming a creator.
It's a common suggestion but I don't think it would work and have posted quite a few times about why: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....
A company that was honest wouldn't lobby the government to lock out others.
THanks for your kind words. There will always be people who wants to use cloud instead of self-hosting (me included if possible).

So I hope this will be feasible. Worst case scenario is to keep some features exclusive for the cloud solution, but fingers crossed I get a good mix of cloud users and self-hosters.
Windows 2000 was the platonic ideal Windows. Has been downhill since then.
>How can I protect myself in such a situation?

Choose a different career, like maybe public-opinion influencer.
I had the same thing, I relearned all my mathematics from grade school to calculus when I was in my 30s so I could go get a degree. Khan literally changed my life for the better.

I also think his take is the correct one. AI's future in custom education is beyond anything else. It can teach it to you using the concepts you have available.
Same. And in the same breath they also added “this is never used anyway, it’s just the template”. But “no it can’t be removed from the contract”
site responds but search results are down on my phone wifi, and LTE, and desktop
Surely there’s some kind of difference between “voice impression for a two-line cameo in one episode of an animated sitcom” and “reproducing your voice as the primary interface for a machine that could be used by billions of people and is worth hundreds of billions of dollars.”

Is there a name for this AI fallacy? The one where programmers make an inductive leap like, for example, if a human can read one book to learn something, then it’s ok to scan millions of books into a computer system because it’s just another kind of learning.
Could you elaborate on the toxicity articles?
*Murati
smells like game of thrones.
At least one major bank I’m aware of in Asia does not over web based account mgmt. mobile or native app install only.
Check out Babashka. It's a single binary that runs Clojure without a JVM. It also starts up really fast and has a much lower base memory requirement: https://github.com/babashka/babashka

It's pretty easy to switch to writing JVM Clojure if you're familiar with Babashka. Most of the libraries written for Babashka are designed to work in either environment.

That said, there are reasons you may want to use the Clojure on the JVM later on. It might be interesting to read the replies to another poster with similar concerns about the JVM: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40445415
That's like saying why should anyone at all make music, art, hire actors, etc., when A.I. will be able to do all of these tasks identically over the next couple years (partially already).

The human element is important. Because we're humans.
Why wouldn't you set a better background image?
A 'lie' that OpenAI themselves believed enough to take the voice down from their app to check.

Presumably they trained this voice, and then wanted an official celebrity endorsement to make it better for marketing. At some point the people at OpenAI forgot it wasn't actually Scarlett. I don't think you can be critical of HN for believing it too in that case.
Microsoft to start killing off VBScript in second half of 2024
Yeah I do kind of love the current dynamic "different every time" Mac OS wallpaper / splash screen. It's corporate Apple but still great, and infinitely better than MS's Borg-like contentless flatness.
> this is on me and one of the few times i've been genuinely embarrassed running openai

This statement seems to suggest that feeling embarrassed by one's actions is a normal part of running a company. In reality, the expectation is that a CEO should strive to lead with integrity and foresight to avoid situations that lead to embarrassment.
This thought is strange. This very moment is the moment of success. Perhaps it can grow more, who knows, but a maximum declines on either side, that's literally what a maximum is.

Saying it won't last should not be profound because that fact should be self-evident. The only reason it becomes profound is because a lot of people are just that stupid.
> How could it realistically be enforced?

By the tax authorities, who are already looking at every payment a business ever makes anyway!

> This is unenforceable.

Only for amounts that come from petty cash, at which point you have effectively reduced the major financial motivation for such crimes anyway.
I found the pacing a bit difficult, like they got 500 pages in and realized "okay, we've gotta wrap this up in a hurry".
> for example, if a human can read one book to learn something, then it’s ok to scan millions of books into a computer system because it’s just another kind of learning.

Since this comes up all the time, I ask: What exactly is the number of books a human can ingest before it becomes illegal?
Just to clarify for people who don't read it, the article isn't claiming this was trained on the voice of someone doing a Scarlett Johannson impression. It says it was trained on the natural voice of someone who sounds similar to Johannson's, hired months before Altman reached out to her.
What a complete asshole. Btw, isn’t architecture under copyright as well, specifically when it is the sole object of a photograph by a professional?

Pretty sure it is. Counter sue the sh*t out of that scumbag.
When sober I can manage my social anxiety. When intoxicated, I just panic and need to leave immediately.
> with a unique voice

Is your voice truly unique out of the 8 billion out there in the world? Nobody could plausibly pass as you?
Why do this when you can get an identical picture from photoshop?
The thing that worried me initially was that:

- the original report by Scarlett said she was approached months ago, and then two days prior to launch of GPT-4o she was approached again

Because of the above, my immediate assumption was that OpenAI definitely did her dirty. But this report from WaPo debunks at least some of it, because the records they have seen show that the voice actor was contacted months in advance prior to OpenAI contacting Scarlett for the first time. (also goes to show just how many months in advance OpenAI is working on projects)

However, this does not dispel the fact that OpenAI did contact Scarlett, and Sam Altman did post the tweet saying "her", and the voice has at least "some" resemblance of Scarlett's voice, at least enough to have two different groups saying that it does, and the other saying that it does not.
It sounds like a bit, but it's true. Outlook offers to write my e-mails. LinkedIn suggests how I should comment on posts I see. I assume this is all being done to give the impression of feature growth to investors, but the reality is that Dead Internet Theory is becoming more real every day.
"sneek peak" should be "sneak peek"

At least we know you didn't use ai for the copywriting :)
"She worked closely with a film director hired by OpenAI to help develop the technology’s personality."

So you are trying to tell me there was zero chance that this film director was not aware of the movie "Her" and may have been influenced by it?

Why doesn't the voice sound like the Enterprise's computer from TNG? I don't mean sound, I mean cadence, more professional and not like a sexline operator.
I use Emacs with Cider+clojure-lsp, and the autocomplete/refactoring tools are super good.
How unique is a voice? I'm sure there's enough people out ther who sounds like Johansson. There's probably some argument for voice + personality + face + mannerisms, some gestalt that's more comparable to copying the likeness "person". But openAI is copying a fictional character played by Johansson, it's not her. Do actor/esses get to monopolize their depiction of fictional characters? Especially when it's not tied to physical represenation. What if OpenAI associate it with an avatar that looks nothing like her. I'm sure hollywood and/or actors union is figuring this out.
You're not wrong, but the production team might be more justified when you account for the huge number of users seeing this image.

Would a synthetic image sufficed? Yes. Can it be worth it to invest in artists creating something nice if millions of people see it? Yes.
I would learn Elixir instead (unless you want to specifically learn Erlang) as it is a sort of a more modern Erlang and you get access to all Erlang ecosystem for free. Years ago, I switched a codebase from Erlang to Elixir and it was a breath of fresh air. Note that I like Erlang a lot, but Elixir even more.
> It would seem the unintended consequences of such a policy would be to ensure every cyber breach is kept entirely secret (so that ransom payments could be made discreetly)

It will show up somewhere in the tax filings. There's no such thing as discreet payments unless it's in such small amounts that it comes from petty cash.

And since the ransomers are demanding payment in crypocurrency, it's even easier to spot for the clear majority of victims.
Did they? Heh, I didn't know that. But I thought they launched with the AT protocol already, no?
Both of those seem idiomatic to me. English generally marks the noun as plural. Blasts of the Baja type. Blast is the noun, Baja the adjective. Dew from the mountain. Dew is generally uncountable, but referring to a serving of a soda as a countable noun doesn't seem grating here.
It's always something that "unifies" stuff. Be it cabs or food or services, etc. There's potential for this.
Again, this article doesn't mention H5N1, avian flu, etc. As with your initial comment, it's untethered from any useful discussion about this topic. It can serve as total absolute verification of your statements about farming practices, but it still does nothing for a conversation about the mutations necessary for h5n1 to go airborne between humans. So back to my original point, I think these kinds of comments serve to derail technical and useful conversations by injecting broad political/social statements that serve little purpose except to demo the bonafides of whoever posts them first.
Great work, looks really clean! Check out Minithesis [1] and the paper explaining internal shrinking [2]. It will strongly improve your library's shrinking capabilities and prevent users from having to write their own shrinkers for custom objects in most cases.

[1] https://github.com/DRMacIver/minithesis

[2] https://drops.dagstuhl.de/entities/document/10.4230/LIPIcs.E...
Still, even if that's true, it does not refute the point. The knowledge necessary to build the very first burrow or web, or trapdoor (which will be definitely more than good enough otherwise spiders would no longer exist) is hardcoded, not externally acquired.
He said, she said.

Maybe the courts can decide, rather than the court of popular opinion, when we don't have access to the actual evidence?

If they're that confident, why did they take the voice down?

What will they do if she continues legal action?

They can say anything, and all we know for sure, is that they're not honest, usually. So... lets see how it goes in court huh?

...but, I guess it won't; because they do not want that discovery. (:
Yes, how dare another woman have a voice that might somewhat sound like Scarlett?
Can you really say this after it generated 400 comments on the topic amongst the people closest to the issue?
I'd pay to get me one of them particular IOUs.
What would be disrespectful about calling her Brenda for example ?
so how would the process of training a speaking AI go ? would you input the actor voice samples and subtitles from a movie, then train it till the output is similar enough to the actors voice from the movie ?
Those are shocking allegations, real question is why Sam, as a wealthy man, isn't able to support his family?
Yeah, sus af because of the call 2 days before they released it to the world. And they were just asking for it when they tweeted the frickin "her". I mean, come on.
Oh wow, I didn't know that "Y-Combinator" was not just a fancy name but was an actual computer science concept. Thanks!
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
That is a very cool name for a blog.
Sorry, you're right, I definitely meant ddrescue. That's what I always use, no idea why I wrote dd. Especially since ddrescue -d -n -S /dev/sdb sdb.raw sdb.logfile is permanently burnt into my brain. I guess I just took it from the previous comment and article and didn't give it a second thought before posting my comment.
> I was perusing some Simpsons clips this afternoon and came across a story to the effect of "So and so didn't want to play himself, so Dan Castellaneta did the voice."

IANAL, but parody and criticism are covered under Fair Use doctrine for Copyright law in the United States [1]. The Simpsons generally falls into that category, which is why they rarely get into trouble.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
Are you ready to eat the $50 per new user (and all the fake accounts that could get created this way to eat more and more $50) all the way until you create this next tier, "for-profit" step?
What punishment will the executives receive?

This will not prevent any future execs from aggressively building another such monopoly, causing years of financial and other harm.

They still walk away with their bags of cash. Their names won't even be tarnished so they can go right back to doing the same thing.
Oh wow, thanks! This combined with the new "web" view is basically what I've been dreaming of.
For a human? Whatever they can consume within their natural life.
what test data would they use ?
Make a program for 8051 MCU. Or a lot of other microcontrollers.

> This “sometimes you need a knife" argument just doesn’t make sense. You can have the power and the safety. Stop cutting off your fingers.

Sometimes you need a scalpel.

I'm not against Rust. I still want to start a project where Rust will be worth learning for me, but I'm currently busy writing erlang and java for big systems and C for microcontrollers. This is of course only my local situation, I don't advocate for those languages (I love erlang though and I'm wishing for advertised easy concurrency in Rust, maybe someday).
Well we start with say you, you trade some of your bitcoin holdings, the feds seize your winnings, fine you and toss you in prison.
I don't see how banning payments would inherently create more opportunity for ransomware attacks. Assuming that the operators are already attacking as much as they can (why wouldn't they be - its more profit that way since its business after all) the only way to maintain profitability with lower per-attack yields would be to ask for more ransom per-attack which would likely drive the yields down even further.

Reminds me of https://youtu.be/9pOiOhxujsE?si=GG6X16c8efr0I3Ey&t=213
In the corporate sphere, this is way easier to investigate than most other forms of corporate crime.

Investigating price fixing or discrimination is hard, because it happens over a protracted period, and you have to show a pattern, and everything is open to interpretation, etc. But this? There are two distinctive events that are basically impossible to hide: The disruption and the payment.

Attacks on individuals are another matter, yes that's hard to enforce. But then, on the average, I don't think individuals actually benefit from paying this kind of ransom. It just tags you as a mark for further abuse. So maybe most people will accept that paying ransoms is just not something you do.
On the other hand, the difference it makes in the study is zero.
The problem is that you need two GPUs and the AI one can't be from AMD. We aren't 15 years away. More like two or three. NPUs are coming and DDR6 plus quad channel memory would get you decent performance on small LLMs like llama3.

You're also forgetting that batch performance is already an order of magnitude better than single session inference.
I can't help but think that this was all planned. It is a very intricately planned, and geniously executed marketing ploy to make sure everyone knows about the company, the new release, that there is voice now, and even makes everyone look into it just to "see for themselves".
Whether this was in with ScarJo in the loop or not, does not really change the outcome, but would be a nice information we probably will never get, in order to understand how cut-throat whoever came up with this idea actually is.

I am impressed
What Happened to DuckDuckGo?
That's the dumbest shit I read today, but I just woke up. Changing one arbitrary date for another. There where humans and civilizations 12kya (kilo years ago). I much prefer the 'kya' notation. It doesn't matter if you're 50 years off when taking about things 8kya.
I can only think of one other tech CEO that managed to become as universally loathed as Altman in so quick a time, and that's Mark Zuckerberg. However even Zuckerberg somehow manages to seem more trustworthy than Altman.
Does your setup do code splitting, SSG? I can't really be shipping a blank html file in 2024, destroys SEO. Otherwise am interested in trying.
To me as a photographer and as computer vision expert, this sounds wayyyyyy over-engineered and -produced. I get that there's a big vision (and budget) involved, but c'mon!
Visualizing data is definitely a great application. I wonder if there are other creative uses we haven't thought of yet. Maybe project management or collaborative workspaces could benefit from 3D as well.
I don't have helpful advice for what you asked (spend the money to get a legal expert's opinion would be my advice), but if I was a voice actor, I would see three paths:

1. Push forward legislation/regulation/lawsuits/public opinion via whatever method is available, probably unions or other collective power.

2. Embrace the technology. Maybe build a voice model of yourself, sell the license affordably and broadly to those that want to take advantage of the convenience and scalability (as in number of phrases) of voice AI but don't want the mess of wading into unsettled legal territory. Or learn what voice AI is good at and what it is bad at and find your niche. Survive by being at the cutting edge of this new world, setting the standards and being knowledgable.

3. Walk away from an industry that is either dying or about to become unrecognizable.

The genie's not going back in the bottle.
Sounds like a story that should be submitted to the above linked website!
Yes, I agree with you, learning is complicated, because it's mostly un-learning habits you had for 20+ years. Stack traces suck, but after a while you grok them. The clojure/core is full of niceties, but it's so big you need a map just to know what's in there. And still...
Python is the new Java 5 here. The lack of multiline lambdas is incredibly awkward, leading to code that bounces you around the file.
What's your point here? Did they or did they not use another voice actor who gave them permission to use their voice? The voice is similar to Johansson's, sure, but it's not her voice and it wasn't an AI generated version of her voice. I'm failing to see what OpenAI did wrong here.
Designing a keyboard layout, part 3
Yes, but it changes the narrative from “they couldn’t get Scarlett to record the voice, so they copied her voice” to something much less malicious. Contacting Scarlett, when you already have voice recordings ready but would prefer someone famous, isn’t that bad of a thing imho.
> an actress was hired to create the Sky voice months before Altman contacted Johansson

> the actress confirmed that neither Johansson nor the movie “Her” were ever mentioned by OpenAI. The actress’s natural voice sounds identical to the AI-generated Sky voice, based on brief recordings

Given this I don't think anyone at OpenAI did anything wrong in this instance except Sam Altman. After getting explicitly rejected by Johansson he should not have asked again and definitely should not have referenced her character in that tweet. And this whole thing could have been avoided if they just used a different voice for the demo instead of their voice that happened to sound the most like her.

They should have learned from Weird Al. Famously, he technically doesn't need permission to do song parodies but he asks anyway and respects the artist's wishes if they say no.
It's standard moderation on HN to downweight subthreads where the root comment is snarky, unsubstantive, or predictable. Most especially when it is unsubstantive + indignant. This is the most important thing we've figured out about improving thread quality in the last 10 years.

But it doesn't vary based on specific persons (not Sam or anyone else). Substantive criticism is fine, but predictable one-liners and that sort of thing are not what we want here—especially since they evoke even worse from others.

The idea of HN is to have an internet forum—to the extent possible—where discussion remains intellectually interesting. The kind of comments we're talking about tend to choke all of that out, so downweighting them is very much in HN's critical path.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
I don't know, to me, it's just sounds like they know how to cover all their bases.

To me, it sounds like they had the idea to make their AI sound like "her". For the initial version, they had a voice actor that sounds like the movie, as a proof of concept.

They still liked it, so it was time to contact the real star. In the end, it's not just the voice, it would have been the brand, just imagine the buzz they would have got if Scarlett J was the official voice of the company. She said no, and they were like, "too bad, we already decided how she will sound like, the only difference is whether it will be labelled as SJ or not".

In the end, someone probably felt like it's a bit too dodgy as it resemblance was uncanny, they gave it another go, probably ready to offer more money, she still refused, but in the end, it didn't change a thing.
When entering and exchanging potentially very large money amounts, it behooves risk management of entered, encoded, and transmitted prices carefully like the following: NDC.

N = Length of string D

D = [0-9]+\.[0-9]+

C = 2 check digits using IBAN method against ND
The whole thing was absurd. The voice doesnt even sound like her