> Your goals are different. You just want to feel superior.

Your insults do not change reality...or science. All you are doing is working very hard to confirm your ignorance.

OK, I'll answer your stupid question. Stupid because you didn't even take the time to research peer-reviewed long-term medical studies to determine if your thinking aligns with reality. Well, it does not. You have no idea what you are talking about.

> What other intervention shows proven, long-term weight loss?

Methods that deliver proven long-term weight loss, from peer-reviewed studies:

Low-Carbohydrate Diets: Ketogenic or Atkins diet result in significant weight loss and improved metabolic health markers.

Mediterranean Diet: Studies have shown it can lead to sustainable weight loss and health benefits.

Intermittent Fasting: Research has indicated that intermittent fasting can lead to weight loss and improvements in metabolic health.

Aerobic Exercise: Consistently shown to contribute to weight loss and maintenance.

Resistance Training: Increase metabolic rate and promote fat loss.

Behavioral Therapy: Cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) and other behavioral interventions can help individuals change eating and activity habits, leading to sustained weight loss.

Self-Monitoring: Keeping a food diary, tracking physical activity, and regularly weighing oneself are strategies that have been linked to successful long-term weight loss.

Lifestyle Modification Programs: Combine diet, exercise, and behavioral therapy have been shown to be particularly effective. Examples include the Diabetes Prevention Program (DPP) and Look AHEAD (Action for Health in Diabetes) study.

Mindful Eating: Can help prevent overeating and promote healthier food choices.

Stress Reduction: Techniques such as yoga, meditation, and deep breathing exercises can reduce stress-related eating and support weight management.

Key Studies and Sources

Diabetes Prevention Program Research Group: The DPP study demonstrated that intensive lifestyle changes, including diet and exercise, can significantly reduce the incidence of type 2 diabetes and lead to long-term weight loss.

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/about-niddk/research-areas/diabete...

Look AHEAD Research Group: This study focused on individuals with type 2 diabetes and found that lifestyle interventions involving diet and physical activity resulted in sustained weight loss and improved health outcomes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2613279/

The Mediterranean Diet Study (PREDIMED): This large-scale study found that adherence to a Mediterranean diet is associated with reduced weight gain and lower cardiovascular risk.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1800389

Etc.

In your desire to attack and diminish, the point you are missing is ridiculously simple:

I said, paraphrasing, that people do not need drugs at all to lose weight. That is a matter of indisputable science.

I did not say --go find it if I said it-- that people are lesser humans if they choose to use drugs.

I did not say --go find it-- it would be wrong to use a drug under medical supervision to help.

I did not say --go find it-- drugs do not have a place in a medically-supervised strategy to become healthier.

I did not say any of the things your mind seems to want to imagine I said. All I said is: Nobody needs drugs to lose weight. And this is absolutely true. I also said that drugs do not fix the underlying problems caused by years of bad nutrition and behaviors. And that, also, is absolutely true.

So, by all means, if you wish to continue to demonstrate just how ignorant you are, carry on. It's entertaining.