skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
zz? Only one esc, but definitely a colon. vim is weird. Works for me, but I understand it’s not suitable for everyone’s tastes.
> If few or none, does that not indicate that OpenAI has done a good job at safety?

I have a rock that keeps lions away. I know it works, because I haven't seen any lions.
Where did the idea for this product come from? It's really great because I see many tools on the market mention this, but few actually do reply mentions.
> In any sufficiently large tech company, the "risk mitigation" leadership (legal, procurement, IT, etc) have to operate in a kind of Overton window that balance the risks they are hired to protect the corp from vs. the need or desire of the senior leadership to play fast and loose when they want or feel they need to.

We have recently seen what happens when companies err heavily on the side of risk mitigation for LLMs. Google recently launched AI products that were so heavily sanitized and over protected that they would incorrectly misinterpret simple tasks as possibly having dangerous or offensive implications.

They let the safety team run the show and the resulting product was universally hated for it. It's interesting now to see a company producing what is by most measures a class-leading product, only to have the tech community also hate them for not letting the safety team dominate product development.
https://www.coursera.org/learn/applied-calculus-with-python

https://www.udemy.com/course/pycalc1_x/
I remember early in the days of COVID when the authorities reassured us by telling us there was "no evidence of community spread in the United States".

Sometimes it pays to look at the fundamentals. https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/ai-alignment-intro-materials
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If most people think the lobotomized and sanitized commercial model behavior is the product of "safety" and "alignment" and that isn't really the case, then the "AI safety people" have done an extremely poor job of communicating exactly what their actual goals are.
While we're being overly reductionist: it's just moving bits around, what harm could that possibly do?
never heard that in my life.
I remember one “how to exit vim” tutorial that explored key combinations that would exit vim regardless of what mode you’re currently in:

:q! works in command mode, but obviously not in insert mode. <ESC>:q! works in insert mode and incidentally also in command mode, but not in ex mode (extended command mode)! And so on, a longer and longer command is built that neutralises the current mode and whatever side effects that the key combo itself causes.
Ok, what actions have they taken that are unethical?
>It’s fashionable, for reasons I am unaware, to hate on Sam Altman and OpenAI

Perhaps because he's a slimy used-car salesman who got rich doing things that are illegal for you and me (ripping off copyrighted works en masse) and he pulled a bait and switch as far as for-/non-profit is concerned.

He's everything wrong with Silicon Valley/Venture Capital/faux meritocratic culture rolled into one.
The thing is that OpenAI is a kind of evil where if they see any kind of potential in that product and generative AI is used then they will create the same thing.
And if that product is using ChatGPT then it's gone. I am not only saying about ChatGPT it's also google Microsoft and all the big companies.
I hate the join the "unreliable anecdata faction" in a thread where we are talking about well-established science-backed points (eating 1000+ extra kcal of trash most days contributes to being overweight; walking 10x more every day does the reverse), but I too believe there is something magical (meaning we don't fully understand the science) about walking.

I have three kids, and after each one of them, I tend to put on 10-15kg of body mass, mostly the wrong kind. So I have three experiences of "fixing it".

The first two times, I ran, lifted weights, ate salads and dropped alcohol, all that shit... it worked, but it was hard. Hard like when I quit smoking cigarettes (before the first kid). I was hungry. Irritable. Sometimes, I'd be like "oh, fuck it!" at 1AM and make a big ass instant Japanese ramen with scrambled eggs on the side, I was so hungry.

The third time, I eventually bought one of those under-desk treadmills, because despite my vows to walk 10km per day I just "don't have time".

It took about a day to acclimate. After that, and forever more, I can easily do computer work (writing code, reading code, architecture diagrams, writing docs) while walking 3kph (slow). When I am just reading stuff, I ramp it up to 4-5kph.

There are a bunch of other things that made me feel dumb for not doing it years earlier, which one day I might blog about or something. I suspect it actually helps my productivity — including learning rate and retention — for some reason (bleeding off extra energy that my mind might otherwise use to poke me with small, fascinating distractions?). But sticking to this topic, the main point is this: I was no longer super hungry with only 2000 kcal a day.

When I would run 750kcal off, sure I burned the calories, but I was soo hungry later that I would override my caloric restriction plan, and often end up eating more extra than I'd burned off.

Not at all the case with walking, either on the desk treadmill, or in the relatively uncommon case that I get to walk 10km in the real world (maybe once a week I will walk to/from work and take some detours).

My weight dropped steadily — which, of course, it does any time I manage to consistentely burn ~500kcal per day more than I consume — but the point is it dropped easily. Walking 10km/day, I can eat at a deficit without it being so... annoying. Eating to maintain weight is also easy.

And unlike lifting weights, or HIIT, or running hard — you can literally walk 10km every single day. You can take a day off if you want, but you don't need to[1]. Your muscles don't need rest. Your joints don't wear out. It's literally the activity your body was designed for. You can do it every single day for 10 years if you want.

I should really write that blog post.

I suspect some science-type should dig into it more and write a whole book.

[1]: the only real worry is that if you have already gotten super out of shape (very fat, very low cardio fitness, etc) then you should start with less walking per day, and work your way up gradually.
A lot of people did, look at the contributors

There's this subculture in the computer world, the pinnacle of which is arguably still Eric Raymond's Jargon File (http://catb.org/jargon/html/) which I could never connect with it.
Can you give us a couple of examples? I mean your ideas.
Gave it a try; seems interesting!
> I believe it will get better and more efficient as we go.

Yes of course. The point remains: the LLM has to process the data somehow.

If you are concerned about costs and token usage then switch to a provider that works for your problem (Flash Gemini looks very interesting..)
Also parents of today think of ipad/iphone = videogames and won't purchase a dedicated gaming device. Except that mobile stores are riddled with videogames made on purpose to addict and extract money from the target (child in this case), while a dedicated videogame console with single-player only games delivers a way more healthy playtime.

Parents are completely unaware of this (unless they are gamers) and research doesn't help because it bundles everything under screen time and even when it's decoupled into "videogames" it bundles single player and multiplayer games together, even though the latter incentivizes keeping you hooked to keep paying.
Reading list to join AI field from Hugging Face cofounder
Yes. The pen is mightier than the sword after all.
I didn't say DEI for a reason, here is the other side talking rather overtly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnhJWusyj4I ... Pick a topic and someone is gonna have a really bent take on how things would be... and keen on jamming that take down someone else's throat so they can feel better. Everyone has shitty takes that they want others to buy into... everyone.

Is Taiwan a country? I would say yes, most Americans would (I hope). Ask ChatGPT...

4chan is still a thing, the library is still a thing. The nuclear boy scouts made a giant mess before there was an internet.

As for safety, well, it's gonna be a long time before shutting down the world isnt a weekend project for a hand full of people if they are allowed.
That (the designing & manufacturing, anyway) sounds like it would be even more expensive than simply shipping larger jars with empty space at the top.
I’m opposed to AML for the obvious intense privacy invasions which followed the implementation, in addition to questions regarding who actually owns that money. Have you ever tried to withdraw $10K from a bank? In many countries, if you can’t provide a reason to the bank’s satisfaction, the bank will deny the attempt.

What if I just want to stash some money under my bed so I’m not SVBed? Perfectly legal - it’s my money - and in some countries, good luck with that “excuse.”
Irrelevant metaphor. On what basis has Altman/OpenAI earned the distrust of so many in the HN comments? All I seem to find are speculation about the future and what reads a lot like petty jealousy. Where is the evidence of the lions on the prowl? Surely we should insist on a gazelle corpse or at least some paw prints before declaring an emergency and going on a lion hunt.
Thank you. This is a very complex response, and I love it, even if I do find it a little frustrating due my current >95% bias towards biological supremacy. This deserves at least an hour-long podcast with Sean Carroll, or a good long book. There is too much to dig into here, so I will just attempt to respond to this:

> Could AI running amok destroy the human race? Yes. Could AI serving madman human masters destroy the human race? Also yes.

I am focused on the latter, and I feel like the prior is a very dangerous distraction, for now. [0]

Should responsible model developers work to prevent bad human masters from using their model to destroy the human race? How far should this nerfing go?

Personal note: While I do sometimes use the heck out of LLMs for work, I don't think we are ready as an economic system/civilization. Assuming that we can soon greatly reduce hallucination, then I am very scared for the next generation, as UBI is a political impossibility at this time. That transition period is gonna suck for a lot of people, and it seems that nobody is working on that problem in 2024.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40400991
I'm not sure how to face social media yet. For videogames, go with dedicated game consoles and single player games (or local multiplayer, no online).

I refused to give my daughter a tablet, but I have a laptop with Linux for her. It will take longer for her to learn how to use it
The rate of change in technology and wild scaling amplifies winning moves. Perhaps this helps the winning players appear superhuman.
Will do, thanks for posting

One question I would have is why use a custom UI and storage setup, rather than the existing otel setup for the rest of the infra?

i.e. how much is being reinvented or duplicated from my grafana stack?
"Mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war."

https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter

What do you know that Geoff Hinton, Yoshua Bengio, Demis Hassabis, Bill Gates, Stuart Russell, etc. don't?
Candy bags in Japan are small, 50g. Drink vending machines contain 50% green tea of different varieties. Domestically sweets are big, usually with sweet bean paste and so on.
Title insurance is great... if you're buying a property, but not for monitoring the liens registered against it once you own it.
I've seen this shared around amongst devs in 3 consecutive jobs I've worked at, so yeah probably a few people.
>Drones will continue to gradually take over a larger set of missions, but we are at least decades away from being able to write software that can perform the full spectrum of missions as well as a human pilot.

Open AI is Sam's company now, Ilya is out. The new Open AI will have no qualms about accepting DoD funding.
Absolutely, very good to keep things burning. It's also good to not need to burn them.

We can be remarkably efficient with the right conditioning. I eat once/day and would do less if not for literally boredom.

I do next to nothing physically all day. I'm fine, I just don't need a lot of upkeep. I have all the metabolism I need!

My health may be suffering for it, but I enjoy getting back a solid chunk of the day. Eating is such a time sink... now it's exercise too?!

I know it's nuts, I have an unhealthy relationship with food lol. Even the social side, it's hard to explain but people get mad when you don't want to eat with them.
It isn't. Mathematica is very much a niche product in academia.

The people who would get most out of it are students, but for some god forsaken reason universities don't support them.

I was in a pilot class with Mathematica back in 2006 and the review of the class were _all_ 5 stars and students on average got 10% higher marks in all other subjects they took that year.

They didn't run the course again.

Sagemath is now equally good if a teacher defines a DSL for the students to use in a class.
Can we move beyond the “man made climate change isn’t real” discourse where you somehow pretend that AI “Is no big deal”.

Let’s have a closer look at the actual parent comment hm?

> this organization is increasingly looking like a circus, and arguably worse, one that has taken its eye off the ball.
Thanks for the feedback - there's a disjoined comment in the README on portability that points to the golang package x/term, and a single open bug report that says "fix it".

So I have a plan, but it's a bit more annoying than I'd like to handle. At least the "conditional compilation" via build-tags is nice and straight-forward!

There is a trace of all CP/M syscalls made, available via the "-log-path" command-line option, but so far I've not needed to debug actual Z80 opcodes.
A lot of serious scholars are concerned, including Hinton and Bengio https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter
Per the authors comments, the players were teenagers.
Its more that the army, navy airforce world over all are heavy oil guzzlers. Its not going to simple if its a long war.
>the dilettantes claim that drones will be superior to manned fighters for air-to-air combat due to human limitations on G forces.

I never claimed such a thing. I said drones designed for air combat will be faster because the upper limit will be dictated by physical limits of the airframe thereof instead of the biological limits of the human pilot(s).

Whether the faster drones would be superior is another question entirely.
you think lifestyle choices are somehow not fully influenced by body chemistry?
> They let the safety team run the show and the resulting product was universally hated for it.

Yes though Google is extra cautious because the “Google” brand is worth over $100B a year in revenue, and they want to make sure nothing ever tarnishes their reputation. So it’s not clear to me that safety always means what it means for Gemini. OpenAI would still have a lot of flexibility to do safety their own way.
AI isn't the most efficient way to retrieve accurate information or to generate quality content, it's the most efficient way to retrieve plausible information and generate poor quality art and code. And that's really interesting.

There is a group of people that trust LLMs for all searches but most tech-literate people know they hallucinate, and understand roughly how an LLM works and that hallucinations are indistinguishable from the truth to the model. And so we still Google things and read books.

The same applies to AI-generated art, music, voiceovers, and code. They are technically impressive, but rarely meet client expectations in any industry. And so most artists and programmers still produce the work themselves.

AI is fantastic for low-quality content, and this explosion of AI is emblematic of how people often lack a filter for quality of information they put in their brains. This isn't new; YouTube has always had more low-quality content than high-quality pieces, probably 1000:1 if not a higher contrast. However, AI shows the scale like no tech has shown it to us before (and maybe this was known by some people at Google or Bing but not so publicly). Almost everyone consumes AI work — blogs, movie posters, art, music, and code. The market is massive but all AI does is reproduce the existing work it was loss-minimized on and the loss of quality is mathematically necessary unless the model is not a neural net, but a database of literally the entire dataset itself that is being searched.

So this is very interesting. When did we become so okay with feeding ourselves a fast food diet of content? Isn't that causing more harm than good? The scale of this phenomenon is truly (and literally) industrial. I myself can hardly imagine what the modern life would look like if people turned to the internet, let's say, only to look up facts and information they already seek. We are so far from that. And AI both illustrates it, and exacerbates it.
Well, after taxes, it is a bit less :p

Seriously, you can't imagine how you'd spend a million bucks? I'd buy a nice home in Palo Alto, and I suspect that will set me back 6-10 million.

You can also imagine a heck of a lot of lifestyle creep. Chauffer, house manager, pool keeper, ...

Add in a taste for something nice .. cars, wine, golf, ...
Would be interesting if one of the major benefits of AI is it pushing us to clean energy
OpenAI is one of the few companies that is so messed up that even the name itself is a flat out lie. From there it's censorship, lies and manipulation all the way down from leadership to product. There's no ignoring that. There's no way any organization like that can succeed IMO.

Just another technology development that Musk will eventually beat everyone else at IMO.

Grok 1.5 is getting pretty good and the fact that it's the least censored IMO is obviously going to make it win from all the others that just can't help themselves from pleasing a hand full of people with money and power.

TLDR: black Hitler.
There’s also the fact that it’s acceptable in East Asia for friends and family to police each other’s weight.
I mean maybe, but I sure edit shit fast
The team was disbanded.
Because to glorify is human. Younger humans are particularly prone to this.
> Thinking bigger for a minute, what rights would a real AI have?

None, and the court has already spoken on this. It's a pretty dead issue.

> Can it be turned off?

Yes it's a machine. Save state, power down.

> Can it commit crimes or be punished?

See PGE and its own death toll.

> Does it have rights?

No, and we aren't even on a path where these questions are relevant. It's all an exercise in mental mastrubation. If you think that were going to accidentally stumble into sentience never mind sapenenc I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Um, closing access to their model code when "Open" is right there in their name and was the original promise they made?

Plenty of other posts in this discussion give other examples.

That's without even getting into all that happened with Altman leaving and then coming back, which has already been discussed to death in other HN threads.
It's either that or population control / reduction, so technology would be the better choice.
If OpenAI is dead, which startups do you consider alive?
I’m not a proompter but why can’t LLMs have an initial step to generate an effective prompt from user input, clarifying if intent is not clear enough, and then feed that prompt back to the LLM to better fulfill the user’s request? Seems like people have been busy generating training data on what an effective prompt looks like, and kind of silly to require people to learn some verbal gymnastics when the LLM itself is specialized at writing in specific styles.
"It finds that the anti-money laundering policy intervention has less than 0.1 percent impact on criminal finances, compliance costs exceed recovered criminal funds more than a hundred times over, and banks, taxpayers and ordinary citizens are penalized more than criminal enterprises."
Altman was rich before OpenAI, so that claim doesn’t hold much water. It is a legitimate and open question as to what fair use constitutes when it comes to training models on copyrighted content. It will definitely be settled in the courts, if not by legislatures in the coming years. Apart from ad hominem attacks and matters about which there are legitimate differences of opinion, I return to my original question: what significant harms have OpenAIs products yielded? It is obvious that a raw LLM of GPT-4s power could do some harm in the wrong hands. Therefore, if you can’t point to real harms, it is reasonable to conclude, at the very least, that Altman/OpenAI might not be the wrong hands.
> don't think it's food additives, because japanese are no stranger to mass produced food and beverages from food conglomerates. it's the country that gave us instant noodles.

And packaged convenience store food of all kinds.
With all things, it is not necessarily unhelpful to turn the knobs to the max in both directions to see if the dent position in the middle is the best default or not. So Google's attempt at max sanitizing wasn't good which is kind of expected, but good to have the test results to prove. Going opposite to no safety put in place can also have an assumed outcome. That one however will be much more likely to have negative consequences if truly allowed to run.
I don't believe them. There's no trust here. They need to earn it. I don't know how, but their continued call for safety around the very thing they're creating doesn't come off as playing safe, but creating cover for themselves when inevitably they break shit.

I do not trust them.
It is just nuts. I installed a mobile game couple of days ago, liked it. Paid 4.99 to "remove ads" without realizing that it only removed some ads. They got me. I uninstalled it, 5$ down the toilet.

I understand game makers need to pay rent too, that is why I spent that 5$ to support them. But they treated their customer (me) like shit, lost me forever. Good job guys

This insatiable greed to make more and more and more money...Yikes

So far, Wordfeud hasn't done anything crappy like this. I hope they stay that way
I think deploying to the etherium network and providing the api is probably the murky area. Who is responsible for knowing the users - etherium or the provider of the contracts.

If he had not deployed anything and it was just code in his repo I would have said this is a really dangerous ruling. It opens up every open source dev to be on the hook for any use of their software.

On the other hand if this was something deployed then it becomes much more subjective.
I came to the comment section for this comment.
Not really, while its possible to get altitude sickness below 8k ft, its very very rare.

Pretty much every aircraft pressurizes to below 8k feet because of regulations.
Honestly I was under the impression erotica is text based only. I guess not.
> preferences and tastes can develop or shift over time and with exposure

You'd be surprised how many progressive(?) people would balk and call you out if you suggest that...
https://wildernessawareness.org/ - I went there over 15 years ago now and did what is now called The Immersion adult program. The capture the flag type event was around 4 days long, there was another capstone experience that was around 4 days on a survival trip. I think they probably still do these activities but I'm not certain. I thought it was a great program for me. They also have programs for kids and teens including summer camps. I've heard great things about the teen wolf tracking expedition and I imagine their other programs are great too.

There are a few other wilderness schools in the area, some of which may have similar activities, so I am not sure if that is the same one the GP was referring to.