skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
There's a mountain of assumptions in this tiny little comment, so let's try to separate them out.

1. Elon is 100% successful. ("As far as one could get")

2. "Fraud" means the opposite of success.

3. Elon is successful because SpaceX is successful.

4. SpaceX is successful because of the sheer tonnage of stuff they have thrown into space.

5. More stuff in space is better than less stuff in space.

Are any of these assumptions true? I wouldn't like to speculate, but I would at least claim that it's worth the debate.
If we envision a spectrum ranging from an HTTP(s) client to a full-fledged web browser (like Chrome or Firefox), I would place cURL very close to the HTTP(s) client end of the scale.
blaze is one of mine too, specifically for the realisation that your build setup really feels rock solid when your entire dependency list is spelt out as an explicit DAG in a build file. inferring or otherwise auto discovering dependencies on the fly is seductive, but it always ends up letting me down when things get complex.
You can easily define a Cartesian product that works on more than two sets at a time. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_product#Cartesian_pr...
lots of accounts being logged-out
Scar Jo thought it sounded like herself, and so did people who knew her personally.

That is what matters. OWNERSHIP over her contributions to the world.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40419037. (Nothing wrong with the reply, but I'm trying to prune the top-heaviest subthreads.)
The marketing still over promises.
and if you do nothing or fail to execute for good reasons you do not matter
no really, you click on them and they show up... i'm not sure why it isnt working, they load up from archive.org so maybe its a block in your country?
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I like this. It also allows me to change my mind, something I do with dismaying regularity!
This is interesting to hear and if she decides to sue there's extremely clear precedent on her side.

The fact that they reached out to her multiple times and insinuated it was supposed to sound like her with Sam's "her" tweet makes a pretty clear connection to her. Without that they'd probably be fine.

Bette Midler sued Ford under very similar circumstances and won.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
Yes. 0/1, 0/2, 0/3 are all different in some sense, but they belong in the same equivalence class.
What if the model asks the user to input an audio sample of the person they'd like to hear, and use that? Would that be legal?
Did they really hire another voice actress? Who?

As for why it's bad, it's because they set down the precedent of wanting specifically Scarlett Johansen's voice, got declined, doubled down, got declined again, and then went ahead and did it anyway. They can say in their own defense that it's some other voice actress that sounds similar, ok, so produce that name, tell us who she is.

Absent that, it's Johansen's voice, clipped from movies and interviews and shows and whatever.
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It is still very wrong to kill people
Specifically from the Google release (1)

We’ve long had a policy against using automation to generate low-quality or unoriginal content at scale with the goal of manipulating search rankings. This policy was originally designed to address instances of content being generated at scale where it was clear that automation was involved.

Today, scaled content creation methods are more sophisticated, and whether content is created purely through automation isn’t always as clear. To better address these techniques, we’re strengthening our policy to focus on this abusive behavior — producing content at scale to boost search ranking — whether automation, humans or a combination are involved. This will allow us to take action on more types of content with little to no value created at scale, like pages that pretend to have answers to popular searches but fail to deliver helpful content.

(1) https://blog.google/products/search/google-search-update-mar...
I'm saying a lot of people wouldn't know the difference, and would just drive it until the wheels fall off.
> has a history of not treating people fairly and ethically

Grandpa used to say, fallacy often exhibited by powerful people is when they transitively believe their wealth also signifies that the rules don't apply to them.
Scarlet owns the voice of a stranger that happens to sound like her? That seems absurd.

Just find someone who sounds like her, then hire them for the rights to their voice.
Good voice actors can do a whole range of voices, including imitating many different people. The cases where someone got in trouble are where there's misrepresentation. If it goes to court, there's discovery, and if the OpenAI people gave specific instructions to the voice actor to imitate Scarlett Johansson, after denying it, there could be big trouble. We don't know that, but it looks likely given how they first approached her and how they seemed to be going for something like the "Her" film.
> I wouldn't necessarily call that damning. "Soundalikes" are very common in the ad industry.

As are disclaimers that celebrity voices are impersonated when there is additional context which makes it likely that the voice would be considered something other than a mere soundalike, like direct reference to a work in which the impersonated celebrity was involved as part of the same publicity campaign.

And liability for commercial voice appropriation, even by impersonation, is established law in some jurisdictions, including California.
Bribery usually implies that the payment is illegal and not part of the regular judicial process (otherwise, "paying damages to the government as part of a settlement agreement" would be bribery in all cases). And usually it enriches a particular government agency or individual.

In this case the payment is part of the judicial process, and achieves its goals even if it isn't accepted. So it clearly isn't a bribe.
along those lines, the entire notion of a web playground (a sandbox where users can just write and execute or otherwise process code) has vastly reduced the barrier for checking out a project or experimenting with its behaviour
Aye. Here's another example. This isn't necessarily responding to any specific point in your comment, but something to mull over. I'm working on a new datetime library in Rust. One of the main features of a datetime library is the ability to parse datetimes out of strings. The standard way to do this in Rust is with the `FromStr` trait, which requires that you pass in a `&str`.

But there's really nothing about datetime parsing that requires a `&str`. And so if you just do what the "standard" thing in Rust is (use a `&str`), then you're automatically requiring that every single datetime parse go through a separate UTF-8 validation step first, which is required in order to get a `&str`. This puts an unavoidable hit on perf that isn't actually necessary for the task at hand.

Imagine for example parsing a CSV file. The `csv` crate pushes you toward using `&str` for everything, but you can also parse CSV data as fields of `&[u8]` instead. Skipping that UTF-8 validation will most definitely speed things up. Now imagine you want to parse a datetime from a field. Is it better to just parse your `&[u8]` field directly, or should I make you do UTF-8 validation to get a `&str` first? IMO, the correct answer here is to define a way to parse datetimes out of a `&[u8]`, while pushing folks in the API toward using `&str` for "most" cases.

The hitch is that if you want to parse with `&[u8]`, you're now working outside the domain of standard Rust strings. And things become just a little trickier. It's not the paved path that `&str` is. And this all comes from the fact that Rust strings required UTF-8.

The great thing about parsing `&[u8]` is that you can reuse that implementation for parsing from `&str` too. But you really do have to know to do the implementation on `&[u8]` first. Unless you know all the nuances of required UTF-8 versus conventional UTF-8, it's not obvious. Because of course, the standard party line is, "use strings and strings are always UTF-8, why use anything else?" That question is I think where the OP lives, and getting more folks to think in a nuanced way about this topic is probably a good thing. :-)
It's almost certainly not legal exactly because of the surrounding context of openai trying to hire her along with the "her" tweet.

There's not a lot of precedent around voice impersonation, but there is for a very, very similar case against Ford

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
Yet still faster than Xcode and more stable.
Reputation damage through faux media is the cheapest form of information warfare. Many industries, and now days many world governments, have a deeply vested interest in Elon failing.
It does seem strange that the ICC is charging both the chief of a terrorist outlaw pirate gang Hamas, and the figurative sheriff that's trying to round them up. It's not like the ICC is going to raise an army to arrest Sinwar, and that's the price of admission to becoming an arbiter of what is "just" in this scenario.

It's similar to the ICC's impotent protest of Putin, when they only would pose a serious concern to those who would oppose Putin, and face investigation for their methods. The ICC is demonstrating the logical flaws at the very heart of its structure.
I feel like Tinder has similar issues with job seeking and employee finding

In fact after a second thought, its almost identical.
You're 100% correct and there's precedent

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
I ran Thorium for a while on Linux because the claimed performance improvements appealed to me. However, I recently ran some actual modern browser benchmarks and vanilla Chrome performed significantly better in every one I tested. My testing wasn't by any means scientific and there are an enormous number of factors to consider of course.

Maybe it's a quirk of my system, or some recent changes they made to Chrome's build process (LTO, BOLT optimizer, etc.) but yeah I've switched back to plain Chromium.
> wasting their time producing nothing much of a value.

they lived. that is not nil. it enriched their lives.

But, eh, I wouldn't say they lived and thrived there.

Some other people have done the very far out life. Here's one: https://hellscanyon.tours/2022/08/15/all-about-buckskin-bill... is one example.

I think its very feasible.... for people who know what they are doing. This probably requires basically an apprenticeship.
Yes, parody's fine when it's clearly parody. But if you try to pretend that Trump or Obama (rather than an impersonator) is endorsing a product, you're in trouble.
The NEMA 6-20 is what I'd want.

I actually think the US should start requiring those. Start with having 1 or 2 in the kitchen, and additionally 1 within 100 feet of any spot in the house.

Once they are more common we'll start to see appliances start using them. At first mainly for cooking and vacuum cleaners.
Yes! Thank you! It's a wonderful game!
I think we should all be held to the standard of “Weird” Al Yankovic. In personal matters consent is important.
Sorry, that's apples-to-pizzas comparison. You're conflating work and identity.

There's an ocean of difference between mimicking the style of someone's art in an original work, and literally cloning someone's likeness for marketing/business reasons.

You can hire someone to make art in the style of Taylor Swift, that's OK.

You can't start selling Taylor Swift figurines by the same principle.

What Sam Altman did, figuratively, was giving out free T-Shirts featuring a face that is recognized as Taylor Swift by anyone who knows her.
They post it in the form of "Should I take the $50k job when I'm happy with the $36k job?".

To a lesser degree, there's "How do I motivate myself to work more than 10 hours a week?" I'm not sure if 'comfort zone' indicates happiness, but it's comfortable at least. Comfort zone posts are pretty damn common, but I see none here.

A litmus test I do on communities is write a variation of, "I spent my Sunday sleeping." If people congratulate you on your rest, they're likely overworked. If they hope you have a more productive Sunday, they're likely in the comfort zone.

Another metric is smiling. They're hard to see online, but I'd say the optimism-pessimism ratio, or excited-cynical ratio.
I wish Elon abandons US culture wars, Tesla and focus on this.

Think about it, if (and this is a giant if) he successfully pushes humans to become multiplanetary species by colonizing Mars, he will objectively be the most important human being who has ever lived.
I use it to unlock Russian books (literature, history) and articles (mainly old Soviet chess magazines). ChatGPT4 produces very nice first-pass translations.
I feel that the interrobang ‽ better conveys sarcastic exclamation.
Haskell shows (one way of) how you can have numerical literals like 2 that can be used with many different types, but still be strongly statically typed.

That by itself isn't a problem. But making all the other confusions you mention is a problem.
I may be incredibly shallow but personally I am experiencing feelings of joy and validation.

Every time I tried to suggest that maybe, LLMs and GAN tools don't make creativity easier but lazier and emptier or that this technology area is parasitic off human culture, every time an OpenAI junkie told me, "hey, perhaps humans aren't much different from LLMs", or someone said artists are derivative too and don't really deserve any more protections or are "gatekeeping art"...

... my anger at the time is vindicated every time these greedy, cynical wretches that the US tech industry has raced to anoint are taken down a peg because of their own very obvious greed and expedience.

I am loving this.

I may also be shallow in feeling a measure of glee that Microsoft is racing forward to shoehorn this utter toxicity into every corner of their product range, just in time for their customers to fully understand how it reeks of contempt for them.
> "Sam and Jack, I know you remember my Torah portion was about Moses forgiving his brothers. “Forgive them father for they know not what they’ve done” Sexual, physical, emotional, verbal, financial, and technological abuse. Never forgotten."

That is...not a pretty picture. We desperately need someone else at the helm of OpenAI.
Stealing someone's identity is indeed one of those "big things".
DNT can be backed by laws to enforce it. Bad actors may still use it as a signal, yet it's only one bit of information and they risk suffering the consequences if found out. A worthy tradeoff IMO, or at least it would be if we can get some legal enforcement in place.
I wasn't clear, is this across all time or only over the lowest recent period?
Cove is the only acceptable voice they have.
There are models that are nearly as good as GPT-4 now. For personal usage, I've been using them for a while now. OpenAI has jumped the shark so much that I'm going to advocate for moving to Anthropic/Google models at work now. OpenAI simply can't be trusted while Sam is at the helm.
The forum post linked early on has the nitty gritty on how the actual binaries were hex edited to no longer need the unsupported opcodes. He manages to do this by rewriting the XP kernel (SP3 version towards the end) but does reference how the 2000 kernel did some functions without the instruction along the way.
Restoring an Apple Silicon Developer Transition Kit "DTK" Mac Mini [video]
Given the timeline, I’m still baffled Sam Altman tweeted “her.” That just makes plausible deniability go away for a random shitpost.
Amazing case law, thank you! I suspect OpenAI have just realised this, hence the walking back of the “Sky” voice.
Why does your bank have your photo id? I've never heard of a bank record having a photo attached.
> Israeli politicians openly call the Palestinians "our bitter enemies".

I don't think this is really true or at the very least it's nuanced. There are some extreme right politicians that say very questionable things but Palestinians (including Israeli Arabs, Palestinians in the west bank, and Palestinians in Gaza) are not generally, as a whole, thought of as bitter enemies. The Hamas maybe. People on both sides generally get along in many situations (e.g. Palestinians that are Israeli citizens, Palestinians working in Israel, Israelis shopping in the West Bank, even most settlers in the West Bank with their Palestinian neighbours).
"Rot economists" appears to be a pejorative invented by this newsletter to describe an ecosystem of graphs-go-up growth-at-all-costs venture capital firms, management consultants, and corporate leaders who are pushing companies away from building things customers actually want: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-rot-economy/

It's "rot" as in the companies/society are (metaphorically) rotting.
Well, that implies arrogance on their part. And there’s some blame from us too for not warning them enough I guess.
It's a ridiculous argument that seems to imply that humans can't code either.
Satya Nadella says Windows PCs will have a photographic memory feature
what would be some security concerns in a situation like this? genuine question
The expensive test prep really doesn't help that much.
You aren't gonna turn a 1250 into a 1550 with it.

I don't think we are arguing over 50-100 points here or there. It's the general percentiles of performance.

A kid with a 1200 SAT is not going to do as well in a challenging college as a kid with a 1500.

I say this as a 1400ish SAT kid from a nowhere small town where I was top 5% of class and then found myself in a selective engineering program where I was at the 50% level at best. Had I been admitted to say an MIT, I would have probably flunked out. Had a 50% level kid from my hometown gone to my college, they would have flunked out.

SAT allows admissions to compare people like me with kids from well known elite, selective and private high schools. College admissions counselors are not going to know the 20,000+ high schools in the country and how their GPAs compare. It's as close to a clean comparable metric as you are going to get, with a margin of error.
I'm not sure that's historically accurate. Gaza was where a lot of Arabs fled during the Nakba and surrounding periods.
It's not a bribe, because the government claimed that Google owed this amount of money, and Google paid it. If this was a check to prevent Government action, you might consider it a bribe. If it had been paid to an individual, you might consider it a bribe. In this case, the law says that there can only be a trial by jury if there is financial damage. With Google conceding the amount claimed and paying it, there is no financial damage, and thus there can not be a trial by jury. The money is not being spent to purchase a trial without jury, it's a fine being paid to change the rules of the encounter.
I think we should all strive to meet the standards of “Weird” Al Yankovic. He set out to do something that was widely hated by a very powerful and litigious sector, and yet after a full career he is widely revered by both the public and the industry. He masterfully sidestepped any problems by adhering to the basic concept of consent while still getting what he wanted 99% of the time.
One interesting legal caveat is that the Sky voice isn't "ScarJo", it's ScarJo as acted in the movie Her.

An issue with voice actors having their voice stolen by AI models/voice cloning tech is that they have no legal standing because their performance is owned by their client, and therefore no ownership. ScarJo may not have standing, depending on the contract (I suspect hers is much different than typical VA). It might have to be Annapurna Pictures that sues OpenAI instead.

Forbes had a good story about performer rights of voices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rashishrivastava/2023/10/09/kee...

IANAL of course.
That's weird -- I would think Morgan Freeman would be able to sue over that, but I Am Not An Intellectual Property Lawyer.
Exception: Parody is covered under the first amendment.
Yes, simple $50 Kaplan CDs back in the day and a pack of practice tests..
There isn’t a positive announcement here, what is wrong with you?

This reads like “we got caught red handed” and doing the bare minimum for it to not appear malicious and deliberate when the timeline is read out in court.
> Did they think killing is a bad thing?

I do not know, but not on the face of it

But we can all do better than justify our actions on the basis of "they did it too"

That is school yard logic, and nation states can do better

Silly me, tho. The nation states involved all seem to be devoid of principals
I mean that essentially means that if you don't know the hiring manager then your chances of getting the job are one in hundreds if not thousands.

which essentially means you have to know the hiring manager to get the job.
Article provide the link to the forum.

https://msfn.org/board/topic/186080-xp-running-on-a-486-cpu
>This seems like an odd requirement to me. What are the use cases beyond a few minutes past the end of the ride?

Exactly what he the OP said, authorization. Card networks cap latency of authorization requests (the time the merchant submits a request, to when it makes its make through the merchant processor, networks, issuer processor and back.)
Musk has his faults, but most of his critics have nothing close to his risk-taking ability and grit.

It’s usually people who have hardly ever risked anything to start a business, nonetheless in a cutthroat industry.

If you gave most people $180 million, they’ll happily retire into the sunset, not invest it in very risky electric car and aerospace companies like Musk.
(2007) Previously on HN [2] (86 points, 2 year ago, 38 comments), smaller [1] (14 points, 4 years ago, 3 comments), first submitted in 2010[0]

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1662657
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24369534
[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30820836