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> Today, under pressure, OpenAI pulled the ScarJo-like voice, alleging that the resemblance was purely a coincidence.

> I probably don’t have to tell you, but that’s complete bullshit. And stupid, obviously refuted bullshit at that.

This article is quoting the linked Tom's Guide article but nowhere in the original OpenAI statement do they claim that their voice's resemblance to Scarlett Johansen was "purely a coincidence". It's kind of important to actually quote the original source before you call it out as "complete bullshit".

Original OpenAI statement: https://openai.com/index/how-the-voices-for-chatgpt-were-cho...
>they can make it seem similar to her if they want by hiring a voice actor with similar characteristics

It is absolutely not clear if that's the case; and there is caselaw that suggests that they absolutely _can't_:

https://mcpherson-llp.com/articles/voice-misappropriation-in...
News headline from May 2025 -

"Junior developer at <big-corp/gov-org> exposed and then deleted all customer/citizen's data after enabling AI integration in popular IT tool 'iTerm', and allowing AI to 'Run commands automatically' on the <big-corp/gov-org> systems."

And we'll do it to ourselves with our race to the bottom - clueless middle managers pushing for "more performance" and creating zero sum competition environments. If I were a junior dev today, I'd feel like I need to enable AI everywhere to compete and survive.
Apples start at 8gb…
>As you might imagine, all this snapshot recording comes at a hardware penalty. To use Recall, users will need to purchase one of the new "Copilot Plus PCs" powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite chips, which include the necessary neural processing unit (NPU). There are also minimum storage requirements for running Recall, with a minimum of 256GB of hard drive space and 50GB of available space. The default allocation for Recall on a 256GB device is 25GB, which can store approximately three months of snapshots. Users can adjust the allocation in their PC settings, with old snapshots being deleted once the allocated storage is full.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/microsofts-new-recal...
This observation is so widespread it now has a handy shorthand in the form of a meme, the "Torment Nexus":

Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus
> However, the company hiring her might not have the right to use her voice with the intent purpose of passing that voice off as that of the other person.

Aren't they very explicitly not doing that? They're saying it isn't her.
That's what Whisper's for
As per above discussion starting with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40316040, I find dualism dubious, and monisms of materialist sort inelegant. It is frustrating if I need to refresh that regularly. Perhaps you are trying to keep up with too many threads :)

Monism in philosophy of mind means assuming the fundamental existence of one sort of thing (e.g., material world) as opposed to two (e.g., body and soul).
> how did people live before ACs were invented? can't imagine

There's the part where people were more resistant to heat one way or another (either they were more used to it, or they made adjustments and had better coping mechanisms, or both).

The other part is the gradual change in climate and environement where it might have gotten way worse than before. For instance having houses with bigger windows/worse insulation, more pollution pushing people to close their windows, more asphalt/less heat dissipation, more humidity and sheer temperatures raising.
The merits of the case are mostly irrelevant because the ICC doesn’t have the authority to enforce any of its judgements. Any country that has one of its citizens (or leaders) convicted by the ICC cannot be compelled to honor the judgement, it can only do so voluntarily, whether it’s a signatory or not. If a country chooses not to comply, the only option is for the ICC to wage a war to enforce its judgement, which it can’t do, and is unlikely to convince others to do.

The name of the ICC does not describe what it actually does. The only role it’s ever actually fulfilled is to punish people who have already lost wars. Which is why it’s pretty much only ever been used to prosecute WWII losers, Yugoslavian civil war losers, and random African warlord losers.

The most optimistic outcomes for the ICC here are sanctions (which Israel’s closest allies wont participate in) or restricted international movement for the involved parties (which Israel’s closest allies will also ignore), and I still think that’s rather optimistic.
React is this for me. Before it, I was fumbling around with libraries like ExtJS for my first job, but after I started using it the concept of components that produce a view as a functional output of state really made so much sense to me.

It has given me so many powerful primitives to use while coding for the web
What law is being broken here?

Suppose you turn down a job offer as a programmer. Can you be pissed at me if I offer the job to someone whose code looks like yours based on scraping GitHub?
I'm a big fan. For me a lot of the fun was mastering that movement system. The way the game is set up it incentives you to be fast and take risks. To get around faster you have to treat yourself the same as the chunks of the ship, using the tether to pull yourself in. You can also magnetize yourself to the hull and spider around like that. With upgrades and practice I was able to get most of the smallest level of ships done in one in game day.
But ticket systems are less stable than commit messages. Some companies decide to migrate to a new ticket system without migrating all the old "unnecessary" stuff.
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Yet, legal opinions seems to differ : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40423224
Johansson is rich. The real value she could get from this would be as an advocate for the rights of creatives, performers and rights holders in the face of AI. If this goes to discovery OpenAI is done.

How much do you think Disney or Universal Music or Google or NYT would give to peek inside OpenAI's training mixture to identify all the infringing content?
> but I don't think she has any rights to voices that merely sound like hers

She might!

https://mcpherson-llp.com/articles/voice-misappropriation-in...
How do you legally define that two voices sound alike? "I know it when I hear it?"

Algorithmically? How much of a similarity score is too much? How much vocabulary must you compare? Suppose two voices sound entirely identical, but one voice has Canadian aboot. Is that sufficient difference?

You can maybe see why the courts wouldn't want to touch this with a 1 kilometer pole
> You don't need to buy new ones from Truth; you buy ones already on the market to run the price up. This directly benefits the guy holding the majority

You’re describing a pump without the dump. There are a lot of reasons this is invalid. Please take it from a professional in this space for decades that your hypothesis is testably false. Even if it did transfer wealth to the Trumps, it wouldn’t do so definitively, and so be diluted in leverage in comparison with a smaller, more direct measure.
And we're not in a court of justice here, where that distinction would be extremely important.

This is all about public opinion, and they have communication managers and PR strategists. If they didn't train this voice on Scarlett Johansson, they would have had so much better of a response by not taking it offline and instead insisting it is not trained on her. The entire discourse right now would be very different. And you can't shift this back later, burned is burned.

The way I see it, there's 3 options:

· they did train it on Scarlett's voice

· they don't know if they trained it on Scarlett's voice

· their PR/communications people don't know what they're doing

I don't think #2 is any better than #1. If it's #3… idk, better companies have been ruined by poor PR.
Nothing in the changelog indicated that “OpenAI is now snooping around”. There is an optional feature that you need to set up yourself if you want to use it. Why do you feel like you need to deliberately misunderstand the post as soon as you read the term “AI” somewhere?
The comments in this thread are depressing, I expected much better from HN.

The AI features are but 1 minor aspect of this release, they are optional, you can change the URL to point to a local LLM, yet people are pretending like all your data is going to be sent to OpenAI if you update.

I’m not sure if people are being intentionally daft or are just not reading anything past the word “AI” (which, again, isn’t even listed as the top feature of this release).

If you don’t want to use it, don’t put in an API key. It’s not like you are going to accidentally enable it.

iTerm2 is one of the most solid pieces of software in use on a daily basis. To the point that I often forget it’s not a default/included app. It has a million configuration options and it makes complete sense for them to /offer/ /optional/ AI/LLM features.
While I agree, somehow I doubt it'll happen. The board is probably stacked with people loyal to Sam now. And even if it isn't, they all witnessed the pending mass exodus to Microsoft before he was reinstated. They'll be reluctant to risk something like that happening.
David Bombal interviewed a cloaked man who's using LLMs to get superpowers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF-MQmVxnCs
It’s absurd that you think that the benefit that I and others get from, say, Copilot, is somehow thwarted by some ranty social media thread that you’re a fan of. It’s some blogger’s theory arguing with empiricism. It’s a completely empty argument. I’m not sure how you’d expect that this would add to the conversation at all. It certainly doesn’t warrant your snarky tone.
If you have something official that I could read, I would appreciate it. I have been researching this for quite some time. But a blog post, but official declaration or regulation.

Thank you.
But in south park they would be seen to be imitating a person - there would be a character called "George Clooney" who sounded like George Clooney.

The case here is that there's a voice that sounds like Scarlett Johansson, but OpenAI are saying that its isn't her.
Hamas counts every Hamas operative younger than 18 who dies as a child.
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The other thing that happened was plate glass got cheap after WW2 when the Pilkington float glass process was introduced.
Emotional intelligence /true empathy cannot be learned or acquired, at least IMHO.

But it can be learned to be mimicked almost to perfection, either by endless trial & error or by highly intelligent motivated people. It usually breaks apart when completely new intense / stressful situation happens. Sociopaths belong here very firmly and form majority.

If you know what to look for, you will see it in most if not all politicians, 'captains of industry' or otherwise people who got to serious power by their own deeds.

Think about a bit - what sort of nasty battles they had to continually keep winning with similar folks to get where they are, this ain't the place for decent human beings, you/me would be outmatched quickly. Jordan Peterson once claimed you have cca 1/20 of sociopaths in general population, say 15 millions just in US? Not every one is highly intelligent and capable of getting far, but many do. Jobs, Gates, Zuckenberg, Bezos, Musk, Altman and so on and on. World is owned and run by them, I'd say without exception.
Cynicism entirely warranted.

I do think this is a flying-taxi feature that everyone will be using in 50 years.

What happens to privacy during that journey? As long as there are taboos, there will be a desire for privacy.

Neuromancer - your data can be hacked, protect it with industrial ice?

Culture - privacy is a result of benign AIs respecting confidentiality?
I think you're looking at the general notion and annoyance that "Open" is misconstrued and misapplied. But there is also a specific annoyance that OpenAI is literally closed, antithetical to its historical promises.
The functionality is obviously similar to the film Her, I don't understand how this is supposed to be the slam dunk evidence against OpenAI.

When Kinect (remember that lol) was being released people compared it to minority report on stage. Does that mean Tom Cruise should have sued Microsoft?
They absolutely stole her voice. I don't know if you're being intentionally naive or you really are this way, but either way you need to stop it.
Case law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
All of the cli programs you use might have perfect, modern apis, but the issue is that the breadth of your workloads means that you can't memorize every cli program api across every case that pops up.

Consider any program or arguments you seldom use. Or come up with an api for ffmpeg that you think is optimally approachable and you'll see that it's so full-featured that you aren't going to keep it all fresh in your head when you use it every few months.

I'd rather let the computer do grunt work for me.
> Before we could connect, the system was out there.

I.e. they asked for permission (which they presumably felt they needed), then launched not only without it, but without a response either way.

> As a result of their actions, I was forced to hire legal counsel, who wrote two letters to Mr. Altman and OpenAI, setting out what they had done and asking them to detail the exact process by which they created the ‘Sky’ voice. Consequently, OpenAI reluctantly agreed to take down the ‘Sky’ voice.

Strongly suggests OpenAI had something to worry about regarding their own process.
I met a captain whose job was to drive these kinds of vessels up onto the strand at Cox's bazaar. He said it was the saddest job he'd ever had. A lifetime of avoiding irretrievable beaching and then.. get a good line, and ram it up a beach to a final, terminal stop.
it's almost like the purple shipping binary blobs dislike being inconvenienced by other people's binary blobs while they ship their binary blobs. shocking.
> They've stolen it, they're put it into their little magic box and now they want to sell it back to you.

In a way, it's similar to how cable TV started. Early cable relayed free terrestrial channels and charged a fee for it. The selling point was better picture quality in some areas. Cable operators did not pay broadcasters for the content they retransmitted.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/cable-television

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_dispute
This is the question a court would be deciding. OpenAI claims it’s not on purpose, but I think there’s enough doubt to investigate
If that's what happened then the case would be strong, but the current claim is that they used a different voice actor and this is just what you get when you ask for "flirty american woman".
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I am teaching myself to code (JS) and decided to build something practical for my existing website.

Let me know what you think and if you want me to add a specific calculator. I already have a list of 10 more, which I'll add within the next month.
Apple would disagree. Jobs considered himself an artist in the straightforward context or his quote.
Microsoft Paint started out as ZSoft Corporation's "PC Paintbrush" for MS-DOS in 1984.
The first version of Deluxe Paint was released in Nov 1985.
It always takes more effort to sound like someone else than just being born dude, stop pretending otherwise.
This actually seems like something that could be hugely useful, assuming the model can be run and stored entirely locally.
Update: these terms were in place for only three days; they no longer seek to sell your likeness.

But then they'd only have to have done it once.
The Israeli army would use their miliary assets on the ground. They invaded and established a temporary occupying force to deal with Hamas, so resources other than air are available.

The air force can hit the targets required around the hospital to allow an easier time for ground forces. Reach the hospital, and use those ground forces to secure it.
Because they are using her likeness without her permission. If they just wanted a “similar” voice they could have hired one from the start. They wanted her voice and when she said “no” they used it anyway.

The “her” tweet makes it exceptionally clear that it was always intended to be Johanssen’s likeness, not some other voice actor’s that happens to sound similar; OpenAI is just betting they can get away with it.

It seems like OpenAI were also betting on Johanssen not knowing her rights _de jure_in that area, which it appears they were quite wrong about. (And even if she didn’t, she would have quickly learned of them in this hyper-connected world, making the bet utterly incompetent…)
I hate "AI integration" rubbish as much as everybody else. But in this case the author did it well - it's disabled by default, it won't work unless you decide to paste your key and so on.
for the AP, yes. apple don't want google nest knowing who you are.

but the real mac is used in lots more places. even for "random" uuid generation.
We aren't a community. Please stop this constant attempt to create tribes and then (presumably) become the tribe's representative. We are individuals with different opinions. The individuals on HN are more amenable to reason than the average discussion; persuade them into a way of thinking.
And The Lord of Rings was first published as separated books.
Extending the thought, I would argue that this indicates the urgent need for more utopian speculative fiction, since it appears that as a society we tend to "steer where we're looking" even if it's straight into a pole. Cautionary tales clearly do not work - we need aspirational tales!
Yes, although it's the US that's the outlier when it comes to compensating engineers. There aren't many other countries where junior engineers can get paid a lot more than other people in professional occupations.
People will justify anything if it's beneficial to them personally. Wait until you hear about slave labor
Dup of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40395467 - which has 29 comments.
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Intel's big promises are starting to get stale. Alder Lake is the only time in recent memory they've been able to make good on their claims. Meteor Lake was disappointing and expensive.
Thanks.

Wow, damn, that's such a crazy ruling. How distinct is distinct enough? How famous is famous enough? I'm surprised Ford's lawyers didn't press the issue further up the courts.
Did you read the statement? They approached Scarlett twice, including two days before launch. Sam even said himself that Sky sounds like 'HER'.

This isn't actually complicated at all. OpenAI robbed her likeness against her express will.
Image rights are complex and separate from stealing.

If they deliberately used an actress that looks like her in an advert. A bit of makeup, a latex mask, digital touch up, full deep fake; at some point most people can no longer tell the difference.
That would be tautological, as 'difference of perspective' is a restatement of the phenomenon at a higher level of abstraction. Someone who is resentful will likely have a different perspective than they would otherwise have. Psychological motives are real and don't disappear by simply assuming a variant of a problem-solving heuristic. Notice also I didn't use the word 'jealousy.' I do think that speculations about psychological motives should be made only after careful consideration and generally remain unprovable. However, the uncertainty of psychological motives shouldn't prevent us from ever addressing them.
> What is victory for Open AI even supposed to look like by now?

Making a shitton of money.

Sorry.
> As mentioned earlier, no one knows how to implement regular expressions with backreferences efficiently, though no one can prove that it's impossible either. (Specifically, the problem is NP-complete, meaning that if someone did find an efficient implementation, that would be major news to computer scientists and would win a million dollar prize.)

It really needs to be noted how NP-complete and an algorithm efficient in practice have nothing to do with each other. If an algorithm takes C * 1.000...eighty zeroes...1^n time it is exponential but for any n you will encounter in real life the time it takes will be indistinguishable from C.
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> Wait, you're saying that because Israel isn't moving citizens into the WB, and it's being done voluntarily, then that makes it legal?

Yes. That is both the letter of the law and the intent of the law. That was the specific case with the Germans for whom this law was introduced, and that is how it has been applied in other areas as well.

> How does incentivizing civilians financially to move there fit into this? How does protecting civilians via the military fit into this?

There is no financial incentive, other than far more general financial considerations such as the expense of living in e.g. Tel Aviv. But one could move to Dimina, Eilat, or Kiryat Shmona for the same reasons - there is nothing special about the West Bank financially. As for the military protecting civilians, does not every military protecting it's civilians? When I was serving, we would protect Arab civilians just like we would protect Jewish civilians. The Arab clan wars are seldom discussed, but are a far greater cause of casualties than the Arab-Israeli conflict excluding wars.
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That's a really good explanation. The South Park team works in the field and understands the rules of Hollywood and their details, OpenAI clearly does not.

The problem for OpenAI is probably that this is the first time that someone with a bit of standing caught them with their fingers in the cookie jar and not only have the balls to tell them no, but also have established rules to go after them.
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> but I don't think she has any rights to voices that merely sound like hers, when they're not being used to fraudently imply that she's involved.

IANAL but it's actually not that simple. There are laws and precedents around soundalikes.

I think the cultural defense for this is really lame. Was there really cultural value in evoking "Her"? Because outside of the narcissistic male nerd culture of laughing at your own jokes, and fixating on your own cleverness, there doesn't seem to be. No one outside of this bubble actually thinks it's super cool and culturally valuable for tech companies to attempt reinvent - seemingly without a trace of irony or self-awareness - the cautionary tales and trappings of dystopian sci-fi.

From what I have seen, the demos struck the average person as cringey and left women in particular with a deep sense of revulsion.