skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Real-life 'stillsuit' recycles body fluids into drinkable water
> This is like early 2010s facebook vibes.

Was just thinking that sama managed to frame himself in opposition to the good guy Zuck.

This sounds absurd, but we're here, this is the timeline.
>In the US, "new is always better".

Barney Stinson is a wise man. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SNRULEnTVQ>
In most of the discussions about this fiasco, I have yet to see anyone point out the following:

- There is a finite number of distinct human voices.

- The # of desirable human voices (D) < The # of distinct human voices (A)

Where D := A - (All unwanted / undesirable human voices)

- Two voices that sound alike are treated as if they are alike

The fact that people say that it sounds like Scarlett Johansson means that there IS a region of multi-dimensional vector space that is claimed to be "owned" by the actress and that actress alone.

I HATE the end conclusion that came resulting from this mob spectacle: That people with voices that sound like hers have effectively no agency with what they can do with their own voices. That they are eternally marked as "that person that sounds like Scarlett Johansson", and that whatever they do with their own voice (including consent to be used for ML training) is met with the ire of the online mob.
If you are using Reddit's web interface: this is deliberate. They seem to make effort to make it so annoying that people might be nagged into installing the app. I assume it works on enough people that it is worth it to them to loose people like me who walk away without installing the app.
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This has been repeated over and over again.

It's the same in the android space. Asus Zenphone was the Small flagship that many people praised: no more.

MKBHD covers this pretty well on his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR9zBsKELVs
It’s not up to the courts whether they touch things with a 1km pole or a 1 inch one. The courts have to deal with whatever ends up in them.

Given the courts regularly deal with murder via decapitation or incest, I’m sure “The Case of the Attractive Actress’ Voice” would be a nice day out for them.
I speculate, but there might also be a part where simply more people suffered from heat strokes in the past when extreme temperatures occurred. So part of the answer of "how did people live before ACs were invented?" is that some didn't.
HN def is a community, in some sense of the word, but I also dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something or we having a problem and whatnot.

HN promotes debate and individual opinions, so statements like in parent just have bad connotations to them.
I suspect it's a land usage problem as well. But they've not kept up with Denmark in offshore wind, and I'm sure they could do more with rooftop solar (like most places).

Being an entirely flat country is very bad for hydropower.
UK economy stopped being dynamic well before Brexit. The simple reality is that the British political class (starting from New Labour and continuing with the current 14 years of Conservative rule) has no vision for Britain beyond the City + M11+ M40, all the infrastructure required to keep that afloat and a managed decline for everything else.

That said of course Brexit only made the above worse.
This so much
No that would not be good. I agree that you should choose the correct way to represent something.

But here a 50% increase creates a realistic expectation to me.
> But hiring another actor to replicate someone you refused your offer is not illegal and is done all the time by hollywood.

Probably this could indeed make them "win" (or not lose rather) in a legal battle/courts.

But doing so will easily make them lose in the PR/public sense, as it's a shitty thing to do to another person, and hopefully not everyone is completely emotionless.
> Altman just wants to enrich himself at your expense

This is were you're very unfortunately missing the point that no, he doesn't, he is after something bigger.
- There are all sorts of toxins on the ships. Crude oil which drives the ship is one component but the government asks to get rid of it first as long as the ship arrives. Next big one is asbestos which is abundant and not removed by the government. It lies around. I am sure there would be more of them

- Yeah olives in brine in a sealed food tin. We did not eat a lot of fish back then but there were food tins of all sorts on those ships. I personally only picked olives.

- A visit could be arranged if you knew anyone who managed the shipbreaking. If the ship is not broken yet, they show you how to climb the ship (mostly vertical steel ladders). If the breaking has started, they don't allow you to climb the ship but then you can roam around the site and inspect all the goods removed from the ship and buy it at whatever price u feel.

- Local population was not that educated. People did not take the businesses as badly as we treat them online. They feel it's a normal industry like anything else and gives employment so they are mostly fine with it. If some worker loses their life (a few do every year) the families are compensated to the tune of $1000 to $2000 and life goes on. (sad I know)
Ahh good old times, remember doing antialiasing by hand for sprites, my brother coding in amos for cannon fodder like game.
Depends on the vantage point. Have you worked in any regulated industries? I can see iTerm joining internal software ban lists because of its AI integration (even if it's off by default).

Security departments of these corps are constantly pleading with their staff to "please stop sharing corp data with LLMs, you're not allowed to do that", all the while staff feel under pressure to deliver faster, and reaching for whatever tools are available.

The temptation to use it will be irresistible to many, especially juniors/temps competing for limited positions and promotions.

From a regulated corp point of view, why would they risk it, and rely on individual staff conscience, knowledge, and ability to estimate risk? Better to neutralise the risk from the outset by banning use of the software. Plenty of other terminals where this can't be enabled at all by any over-excited staff.
Both of those are hopeless as the US crime stats show despite the medieval punishment system.

It's more about preventing the root cause of crime: culture and economy.
Is there an objective, quantitative metric to compare two voices, including pitch, tone variations etc?
There's a web-based version modeled after the original Deluxe Paint with source code available: https://www.stef.be/dpaint/
It is Sam and it's not Sam; it's that attitude that "no" is just "no right now", and that attitude that whittles down people against their will.

I've been working long enough, serious ageism kicks in if I say how long, but in this situation my decades of experience point at Sam as toxic, I can say all it takes is one idiot like Sam to destroy the work of a their entire organization. That "no for now" attitude destroys far far more than the issue they are pushing, it destroys basic trust.
100k is small, but you only get away with 100k if you nail everything perfect the first time around — something that we all know does not really happen. I think compiling is a good parallel to training, imagine if compiling your whole software project cost 100k if you did it from scratch. Sure there's incremental builds etc, but the cost is steep no matter which way you look at it.
As mentioned in my other comment, you can't legally use a similar voice. There are "right of publicity" laws against that: https://rightofpublicity.com/brief-history-of-rop
That’s most of the world. The idea of worker safety and protection is the exception, not the rule.
Ship something then we can talk Intel. They have made so many outrageous claims over the years for things not even close to release that I’m not sure why people still listen.
>No, the Data Protection Act (2018) is just the legal instrument which sets out the (UK) GDPR.

That's not right either.

The GDPR is law because it's an EU Regulation that was made while we were part of the EU, and it became UK law automatically when it was passed, as regulations do.

The Data Protection Act 2018 augments the GDPR, but the GDPR would be the law of the land with or without the DPA.
If it spurs on the movement to create legislation controlling how likenesses are used in AI models, Sam Altman has done himself a great disservice here.
Sounds like they just shifted the voice with some Fast Fourier transforms - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/63339608/change-the-melo...
> mobile far outnumbers consoles too

That didn't sound correct to me, and I found an article [0] that says the numbers are pretty similar.

I play some games on PC+PS5 and some on mobile, so I'd probably count as both a mobile and "legacy" gamer, but if I had to choose one gaming market to immediately disappear from the face of the earth, it would be mobile gaming for me, absolutely.

[0] https://business.yougov.com/content/48108-console-vs-mobile-...
"Since 1967, government-funded settlement projects in the West Bank are implemented by the "Settlement Division" of the World Zionist Organization.

Though formally a non-governmental organization, it is funded by the Israeli government and leases lands from the Civil Administration to settle in the West Bank."
Why would you get costs with a local model?
Deluxe Paint is one of the best "definition of done" for software products ever
I don’t know. I tried NFS Undercover on my gtx 1650 laptop with highest settings - it couldn’t do it, lags to the point of totally unplayable. On windows it works perfectly fine. Why is that? Can somebody explain?
"One patient enrolled in the duct tape arm lost his study wart in a trampoline toe-amputation accident and was also not included in our analysis."

Nor was the cryo group was spared from trauma:

" 1 young child actually vomited in fear of pain before each application."

Which also goes to show it's a good thing studies like this are conducted even though warts are 'harmless'
There's a long tradition of people asserting Lisp's problem was the lack of infix syntax, then discovering this was not in a fact a problem of Lisp.
You still need lots of labor, including redundancy staff. Plus lots of insurance, and land might be expensive too (or rent). A proper daycare would even pay extra to clean everyday, and then modern amenities like the software and bandwidth for livestream of the kids, hosting daily pictures and videos, etc.
> dont like the phrasing and emphasis on "we" having done something

Fair enough. I cited two we’s.

In the first—where “we, as a community, have been critical of crypto”—I juxtapose this community at large’s scepticism of crypto with its giving the benefit of doubt to people similar to crypto’s worst in AI.

In the second—where “we have a wider problem”—I intended to reference Silicon Valley at large. I did not intend to imply that Sam Altman is HN’s problem to solve. (Though I welcome the help, if you have sway in D.C. or your state capital. I am not sure I have the bandwidth to take on a political project of this magnitude.)
Oh, I actually thought it was less of a grindfest than Heroine's quest and mage initiation or at least I really don't remember grinding much.
I think this is the relevant case law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

Basically your voice is part of your likeness.

"Impersonation of a voice, or similarly distinctive feature, must be granted permission by the original artist for a public impersonation, even for copyrighted materials."
Thanks for your suggestions, I will try both!
Because she inherently owns the rights to her voice and they’re attempting to reproduce it without her permission. This has been litigated in multiple cases. If they had just wanted to be _reminiscent of_ “Her” they could have a different outcome than if they tried to get the original “Her” voice actress and then tried to reproduce her voice in her she said no.

Intent matters a lot in a situation like this and OpenAI very clearly documented their intent for every me to point and laugh at. Even in the hypothetical case I give above where they don’t try to hire Johanssen and just get someone similar-sounding, they could still be liable for appropriating Johanssen’s voice if they were coaching the voice actor to specifically sound like Johanssen rather than do her own performance.

You’re looking for a technicality but this stuff relies on human judgment for a reason.
In my eyes, that felt like something that should be separate from any given app or back end API, so in my case I use mod_auth_openidc: https://github.com/OpenIDC/mod_auth_openidc with Keycloak: https://www.keycloak.org/

My back end/app just gets a few headers that say who an authenticated user is, if they are logged in. When I need to log in or create a user, I can just direct them to the Keycloak SSO portal, where they can also use social login.

It's using OpenID Connect without the insanity of dealing with the low level logic. And the Relying Party implementations work across any technology, be it PHP or Ruby, Node, Python or anything else (a simple auth filter that checks the headers is trivial across all of them).
13.3" but the github page lists some alternative, larger displays. Supports some interesting interfaces. Seems to need USB PD power so it sounds power hungry. Regular 5 volt USB would be nice, for this to be a good companion display to a Raspberry Pi or the like. Otoh it sounds like the complete monitor will cost around $1K based on comments below.

I'm still mostly interested in an Inkplate 10 though 13.3" is a better size for an e-reader. For a desktop monitor I really want 20" or larger. For E-ink that would be super expensive.
> The Israeli government did not and does not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

This is false.

West Bank settlement is funded by the Israeli government through the World Zionist Organization.

EDIT: downvoters, please understand, the above statement is true. The government of Israel supports settlement via the WZO, which has a division (named "Settlement Division") with the specific purpose of making settlement possible through whatever loopholes can be exploited.

The downvotes are an attempt to obfuscate this fact.

"One of the mechanisms used by the government to favor the Jewish local authorities in the West Bank, in comparison with local authorities inside Israel, is to channel funding through the Settlement Division of the World Zionist Organization. Although the entire budget of the Settlement Division comes from state funds, as a non-governmental body it is not subject to the rules applying to government ministries in Israel."

https://www.btselem.org/publications/summaries/200205_land_g...
It's not just that. Originally the AI voice in Her was played by someone else, but Spike Jonze felt strongly that the movie wasn't working and recast the part to Johansson. The movie immediately worked much better and became a sleeper hit. Johansson just has a much better fitting voice and higher skill in voice acting for this kind of role, to the extent that it maybe was a make/break choice for the movie. It isn't a surprise that after having created the exact tech from the movie, OpenAI wanted it to have the same success that Jonze had with his character.

It's funny that just seven days ago I was speculating that they deliberately picked someone whose voice is very close to Scarlett's and was told right here on HN, by someone who works in AI, that the Sky voice doesn't sound anything like Scarlett and it is just a generic female voice:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40343950#40345807

Apparently .... not.
> You don't "uncheck the OpenAI checkbox". You check the box if you want to use it

There is no checkbox for that, at least I can't find any and I've been looking quite hard.

There is:

- a text input field for the OpenAI API key (by default empty)

- a text input field named "AI Prompt"

- a "Model" dropdown (which doesn't have a "None" option)

- ...and a Token Limit number input field

...that's it. It also doesn't say anywhere that the key field being empty means that the feature is disabled.

A better UI design would have been a checkbox at the top that's disabled by default, and all the detailed UI fields being greyed out and disabled until that checkbox is enabled.
Also Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 single handedly revived the genre.
I love the new documentation site: https://www.erlang.org/doc/apps/stdlib/lists#duplicate/2

Looks a lot like Elixir's. The previous one was functional, but a little barebones. A little colour, hyperlinking and syntax highlighting goes a long way. Also, navigation seems to be improved. I always lost my way navigating across Erlang modules to find a specific function.

The entire Erlang/OTP ecosystem got a boost of mind share with the explosion in popularity of Elixir, and it's so nice to see it improve at breakneck pace [1], with some cross-pollination between Erlang itself and Elixir. The ideas of Armstrong, Virding and Williams are in many ways far ahead than a lot of mainstream languages, and they were long overdue a revival under the spotlight.

Keep up the good work!

1: yet, it's still the most rock-solid platform to build services upon, and you can quote me on that.
Jim Keller on AI, RISC-V, Tenstorrent's Move to Edge IP [video]
Don't forget Frank Herbert is rolling in his grave, too. Dune's first two books could be called 'Paul is bad' and 'I guess I wasn't clear the first time'.
Linguistic Capture Errors
Wezterm is pretty good. There's little to choose between the two, but I use wezterm because it's cross-platform and I like to have the same experience on Mac and Linux.
Unfortunately that’s hard to write in a way that’s interesting, or at least that’s my interpretation. Maybe it would read too much like political and economic theory. And then in the cases where it is done it either leads to things like ‘get away from capitalism’ which many ppl wouldn’t like or just not discussing it much like Star Trek where supposedly there is no money but it’s not really explained how. (And I assume if it were more explicitly socialist start trek would have become as big)
> Decentralisation allows trust-less assurance that money is sent

That is indeed something it does.

But it also gives you the assurance that a single entity can't print unlimited money out of thin air, which is the case with a centrally controlled currency like Worldcoin.

They can just shrug their shoulders and claim that all that money is for the poor and gullible Africans that had their eyeballs scanned.
Are you talking about the same year when Linux will finally suceeed on the Desktop? :-)
> The Israeli government did not and does not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

False. It directly funds organizations which promote settlement.
Building an AI game studio: what we've learned so far
Hi HN. We want to make it possible for anyone to build games without first learning to code or make art, by giving them access to an “AI game studio”. It’s early days, but here’s what we’ve learned so far building this product. Would love to hear what everyone thinks, and see if we can find some alpha testers for this!
Thats not true. Several artist never shipped or published any works, but are still well known today. Vivian Maier and Henry Darger comes to mind.
It's probably worse than building them. When building a ship, we have a pretty good idea of how brand new materials for construction behave and have an exact plan for putting them together. Shipbreaking, on the other hand, involves chopping up enormous chunks of rusty steel of unknown but generally terrible condition (that's why they're getting broken up), meaning they can fail in unexpected ways at any time, plus you're basically flying blind because you don't have the original plans etc.
It’s the tech (investor) bro appeal
got to 11:20 where he says if you think this is marine boot camp, it is not, the things being trained are fitness and conformity... and i couldnt help but burst out laughing... he may be a great historian but seems to lack an understanding of contemporary issues.
Really like the new Erlang 27 docs https://www.erlang.org/doc/readme.html
I know it's pointless bickering but...

> The Nakba was an outcome of Arabs deciding to attack Israel in 1948, they wanted to wipe it off the map, and they lost. They rejected the partition plan.

The "partition plan" was a plan to give part of Palestine to Israel. It's pretty natural that one side refused and the other accepted- the action is the same but the outcome is the opposite for the two parties. Trying to spin it like "they both got the same generous offer" is propaganda.

But even more important is that the partition plan assigned to a "Jewish state" a territory whose population was 45% Palestinian. This means that either

a) they thought it was possible to create a Jewish democratic state with a 45% of the population non-Jewish, or

b) the plan was to enforce apartheid from the beginning, or

c) the plan was ethnic cleansing from the beginning.

And- lo and behold- ethnic cleansing is exactly what happened one minute after the creation of Israel. How convenient that it was the Palestinian's fault.
No, it has never come close. The profit margins for UNH are at the highest they have ever been (6%). Profit margins for all the other managed care organizations (health insurance companies) are 2%.

They are the exact opposite of tech companies.

$22B/440k employees = $50k profit per employee.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/UNH/unitedhealth-g...
Whilst I appreciate the allusion to the Gordian Knot, you're still just... mistaken.

I have no idea how you can read this and think that Bret doesn't a) have style (more than a little, even!) and b) a respect for his audience's basic knowledge.

"Devoid of incisive insight"? Are we reading the same thing? "Poorly edited" - okay, yeah occasionally I've caught a grammatical or spelling error but everyone makes these - even big newspapers - when you put out enough words. It's well edited, but short of perfect. Not the same as poorly though, not even in the same league.
How can anything you put online be "stolen" anyways? Its a 30 year old truth that you shouldn't put anything online you dont want anyone else to use... Long before LLMs were a reality. Why the fuzz now?
Pop quiz: who funds the World Zionist Organization?
OpenAI confirmed it by removing the voice immediately after Johansson's lawyers reached out
Just so there's no confusion, eviks means "everything" by voidtools, which is really amazing. The difference in search speed is like day and night.
Sounds almost transformative when you put it that way. You’re saying they took the content, and turned it into something completely different than its source? Hm.
I'm not talking about collaboration or lack thereof. I'm talking about Johansson's foolishness, and her subsequent tantrum after she rightfully regretted that poor judgment.
We have almost run out of training data already so I’m not convinced they will get massively more generalised suddenly. If you give them reasoning tasks they haven’t seen before LLMs absolutely fall apart and produce essentially gibberish. They are currently search engines that give you one extremely good result that you can refine up to a point, they are not thinking even though there’s a little bit more understanding than search engines of the past.
can you elaborate on that please?

i don't see how US law wants companies to crush unions. and what is that film industry exemption about? any references?
The other difference is that the creators also had his consent.
Windows Returns
A Closer Look at the Science of Mirror Neurons
I should rewatch that. The last time I did it was funny. I wonder how much like a prophecy it’ll seem now.