skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Is this GPT4-o not the same as the one available on the pro plan? I can access it now.
My hunch is that because `child` is so common place and suggests no semantic reference to oppression.
> less than half of Hispanics support legalizing marijuana for recreational use. Hispanics (and Asians) support recreational marijuana legalization at only marginally higher rates than Republicans.

Quite possibly, but is there any sort of cross sectioning that to religious beliefs and/or existing political affiliations in the data set?

I say it that way because, the more devout Catholics may very well support abortion bans and keeping Marijuana completely illegal...

But let's remember the reality of this change; it is NOT legalization, it is simply moved to schedule 3 federally.

IMHO, if the population who decides that is 'past the line' or gets fooled to think it is full legalization gets in a tizzy and everything goes its up again...

Idk what to say at that point.

I agree there is risk but the bigger risk is long term blowback if it becomes a big pharma cash grab.
>a large scale solar or wind farm will occupy more land than an equivalent gas or coal plant

The land use talking point is so old that I remember hearing it in high school nearly 20 years ago. And the answer now is the same as the answer then, which is that this is not an apples to apples comparison. Windmills actually don't physically occupy something like 99% of the space over which they are distributed, and they are located so as not to interfere with other forms of land use, on land that wouldn't otherwise be used for something.

With solar panels it's a little bit more nuanced because apparently there have been some cases where land has been cleared to make space for panels, which is bad. I would like to think however that's unrepresentative, and the same thing is true of solar panels that they're located in ways that don't interfere with other forms of land use.

Even if wind and solar were not renewable these would still be distinctive advantages they have on the land use question. But if you throw all those nuances away and purely look at something like energy generation per square meter, it makes it look like there's some sort of losing proposition you have to worry about with solar and wind, even though there really isn't.

I do think it's fair to dismiss the aesthetic argument, because like so many other things in this thread, it's this dangling concern with an open unquantified implication for how significant it's supposed to be. That open-ended implication allows a skeptic to get away with implying that maybe it's a big problem without doing any of the work. In my opinion we are now far enough along into the renewable energy transition that this kind of rhetorical move should not be allowed, it should be considered poor form. You want to say it's a problem, that's fair and good, but how big of a problem? Are you at least interested in that kind of question or understand why it's important? What's the upshot? Is the idea that we abandon renewable energy altogether, do 5% less or something? Is it that we do exactly as much as before but we all just agree to be really careful? And why should I have to do your work for you of working through with the implication is supposed to be?

I think a lot of the problems with aesthetics are similar in that there are strategic ways to mitigate them, but perhaps more importantly I don't think that there are actually aesthetic problems here in the first place, and we seem to get along just fine without applying those standards to status quo infrastructure. But, here again, even if we agree that it's a problem, and did some sort of like economic analysis of the trade-off there, we would have to weigh that against the benefits of renewables writ large, are we looking at one penny of problem versus $1 of benefit? I suspect that that even would overstate the problem, but again, It's this unquantified open-ended implication that seems to be doing no work whatsoever to assess the relative scale of the problem and weigh it against the benefits brought by renewables.
How can anyone in their right mind think building AI for emoji selection is a remotely good use of time...
It's been that way since the RP3 - heavy load resulting in rainbow square. Use the official power supply labelled 5.1v and the square disappears
They did not cause their "invoice" was also fake
So br00tal
If that’s true, then they should allow people to opt out. There’d be nothing to worry about.
Absolutely. However, as OpenAI forms partnerships and begins to offer ChatGPT as a plugin across various platforms, many of those niche applications would be replaced.
I caught a YouTube about this recently that I really enjoyed. "Why North America Can't Build Nice Apartments (Because of One Rule)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRdwXQb7CfM
I express some pretty controversial opinions on HN and a few other places where people even sometimes listen to aggressive criticism of the status quo, and it’s kind of part of the package deal that when you walk away from the big time over an objection of conscience, you’re probably pretty passionate about it. I’ve chosen to embrace some pretty contentious relationships with some of the most powerful people in the world because even a few years of living large at the expense (in my opinion) of the public welfare was making me physically ill. Those folks for the most part have chosen to hit back much harder with their much greater resources, but be very careful to make the more vulnerable party by far appear to be the aggressor. There are just limits to how much a guy who walked away from the FAANG pay can menace a C-suite executive or board member at a major corporation.

I try hard to leaven an attitude and articulation around this that depending on one’s taste starts at “passionate” and it’s not ridiculous to call it “strident” or maybe even “toxic” or something with acknowledging thoughtful, public-minded comments like yours at every opportunity.

I would like to acknowledge that you’re very articulate and clearly ethically-motivated remarks and attitude created an opportunity for me to be thoughtful and reasonable in spite of being very frustrated with the status quo, which is not an opportunity afforded on every thread for someone who is engaged in what amounts to some level of “civil disobedience”.

I think everything you’ve said is eminently reasonable, though even describing a position on these topics implies some different difficult dilemmas, many of which you pointed out.

I’d very much like to continue this conversation as it’s one of the most productive I’ve found on the Internet in recent memory, but arbitrarily nesting the thread without more expressed interest from the community is probably pushing it.

If you’d also like to kick the tires on some of these conundrums in a bit more detail, please email me at b7r6@b7r6.net and I will make an effort to reply promptly!

Either way, thank you for raising the bar on the conversation: you pulled my level of debate up, and I doubt I’m alone in that.
https://immich.app/ has built in auto-detection and tagging.

I am surprised by the over-engineered comment. Object auto-detection is kind of an advanced feature and I would expect a lot of extra infra required for it. Immich hides it because they just publish docker containers for you but I imagine it would feel more complex if you were to look at the internals.
I imagine that live H5N1 virus will make raw milk extra tasty and, assuming you're not one of the 52% who will die from contracting the virus, Bob's your uncle, eh?

Come to the US and drink all the raw milk you like. Note that we don't have universal health care here, so bring lots of cash.
Story time.

I was at a VC conference last year and if I learned nothing else there, I learned how to spell "AI". Every single exhibitor just about had their signage proudly proclaiming their capabilities in this area, but one in particular struck me.

They were touting the API integrations they could offer to train their "Enterprise AI"/LLM, and among those integrations were things like M365, Slack, etc.

It struck me because of the garbage in, garbage out problem. I'd like to think that the amount of shitposting I do on Slack personally will poison that particular well of training data, but this seems to point to a larger problem to me.

LLM's don't have a concept of truth or reality, or awareness of any sort. If the training data they are fed is poorly quality checked/unsanitized by human intelligence, the outputs will be as useless/noisy as the original data set. It feels to me that in the frothy rush to capture market buzz and VC, this is being forgotten.

Am I missing something, here?
Audio generation is currently in private beta. There are only a few papers publicly available, but hopefully Google expands the list soon.
We were talking about last 10-12 years

Any reasonable observer wouldn’t compare the first 15 years of google to the next 15.

Also the examples(baring fitbit ) you cite were great product ideas but fairly small companies, it takes a very different kind of DNA to assimilate large organizations and still be somewhat functional, this is what a comcast acquisition would be .

Microsoft or even SAP have practiced this for years Google has in the last 10 years done of note only Fitbit and Mandiant you could maybe consider also Nest in outside edge of the window in 2014 , all small bets for google’s size

Apple is also similar, both companies believe they will do better doing everything in-house rather than acquire expertise in areas of interest (fiber, cars etc ) so far they have failed and now are content in giving money back to shareholders rather than find useful areas to invest .
I recently tried Zulip [1] again after a few years and the UX is much improved on web and mobile, worth a look (it is OSS and you can self host).

[1] https://zulip.com/
They tried to shove that in at the end but it's easy to one click it away the first time you turn it on
I also don't know what license will be used, but nothing in the GPL prevents [eg] the owners of Winamp continuing to own Winamp, or from deciding what innovations will (or will not) make it to their own official version.

I'm not sure that "opening up" actually means what you may appear to think that it means.

The entirety of present-day Winamp could be released, with code, under the GPL tomorrow and nothing says the org that owns Winamp will somehow cease to own Winamp, or that they must accept others' changes into their own source tree.

(And that's perfectly OK, even under the restrictions of the GPL.)
I see a lot of information about how to distribute content and revenues, but I don't see how you ensure that enough revenue comes in.

Wordpress' Tumblr problem is that costs exceed revenue, not distribution.

Note that "decentralized" doesn't reduce total costs - it just spreads them out. Server costs do not go down with the number of owners.
Cabel, the post’s author, tells a similar story about someone trying to jump the line for a Playdate console preorder during this GDC talk.

http://gdcvault.com/play/1034707/The-Playdate-Story-What-Was?
Yes because they don't have to be empattic right? And society has to accept any bs they come up with
the desktops of my formative years were two: MATE and Windows Explorer. because of this, I knew straight away that GNOME wasn't what I wanted, and Ubuntu's decision to adopt GNOME 3 after all the hate that seemingly everybody under the sun had for the desktop (even if I guess this was a problem for Unity too, though I loved it) TOTALLY baffled me.

that being said, I fell in love with Adwaita's design and the GTK headerbar applications for their simplicity and elegance. I so fell in love with it that I begrudgingly decided to switch to GNOME desktop on Ubuntu, just so these applications would feel native.

a few years in, and i'll be real; you're absolutely right about how GNOME expects you to totally overhaul your workflow. that being said I regret to say that now I am fully married to the GNOME workflow and can't even bear to use MATE anymore (other than for brief stark fits of Compiz nostalgia)
How many times has that happened to you?
Maybe they did. Do you suppose they got scammed on eBay - which they "perfectly" remember buying it from - or from the Red Cross, which they have an invoice for?
More ignored than forgotten.
Is not the embedded energy basically what they’re looking at?

Anyway, we need more green electricity to convert less energy overall - for example since electrification means you can replace gas for things like heating and cooking, which with heat pumps and induction stoves can reduce the energy use by a half (for stoves) to a quarter vs. gas.
I mean it's cool, but how about getting some basics like punctuality and cleanliness right first.
In case this is helpful to anyone else, I opted out earlier today with an email to feedback@slack.com

Subject: Slack Global Model opt-out request.

Body:

<my workspace>.slack.com

Please opt the above Slack Workspace out of training of Slack Global Models.
Nonsense. There are plenty of companies that don't have shit policies like this. A vast majority, even. Stop normalizing it.
I was able to try the app out, really love the concept. Often find it easier to sneak in audio throughout the day than reading. Are the 'podcasts' designed to be more of a condensed version of the original article in the same tense? Or are they more of a narrative like Founders podcast or something?
I've felt for a long time that hacker News was dead, then I read your post and it made me warm inside
Yes, consider an existing LLM being given “shitpost-y” messages and asking it if there is anything interesting in there. It could probably summarize it well and that could then be used for training another LLM.

etc etc
Wallpapered over?
Number 14 still confuses me. The base object does have prototypes but can traverse the prototype chain? My brain seizes.
Negative masses have not revolutionized cosmology
There’s a gantry crane that moves the planes around.
Except he provides no evidence at all. It's cool fiction but nothing more than that.
if your data is stored in a database that a company can freely read and access (i.e. not end-to-end encrypted), the company will eventually update their ToS so they can use your data for AI training — the incentives are too strong to resist

https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1688610782509211648

https://twitter.com/kepano/status/1682829662370557952
This is neat, thanks!

You might like this video on rolling/compliant joints (also in birds) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQiLLcumqDw
Why shouldn’t AI be able to shitpost too? At the very least, and much more importantly, AI should be able to recognize shitposting.
> And right leaning people have been so far more capable of cooperating with those who don't match their values.

Don't follow US federal politics much, I take it?
Google has been "showcasing" since I can't remember, if only they shipped instead :'(.

Remember Duplex [1]? Which then turned out to be fake. The more recent fake Gemini demo? What an embarrassment.

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VN56jQMWM
Complete distortions and lies
This assumes everything in the training data set is accurate. Sometimes people are wrong, obtuse, sarcastic, etc. LLM's don't have any way of detecting or accounting for this, do they?

That output, then being used to train other LLM's, just creates an ouroboros of AI generated dogshit.
> They need to reword this. Whoever wrote it is a liability

Sounds like it’s been written specifically to avoid liability.
This post will ensure a better fake is up on eBay tomorrow.
The sheer scale of data on the long tail. Sure, the head is already a trash pile and has been for decades now, but there is plenty of non-monetized information all over the internet that is barely linked to or otherwise discoverable.
Show HN: I built an online state machine editor
I built it with some thoughts to solve some centralized state management problems.
Wasn't on dA in 2006, but the Eclipse redesign of the site to look more like Wix is what dropped my site usage to 0 even before NFTs and GenAI shit. The old design looked "dated" - so what? It was more intuitive, feature-rich, customizable, and distinct. dA was Xing its brand recognition before it was cool.
Yeah these statements are always so benevolent, with the patronising undertone of “this is for your own good, for a better experience”.

SMH
In the year of our lord 2024, Microsoft Excel is physically incapable of handling more than ~1 million rows or ~16,000 columns. Both are trivially easy to exceed even in very small applications or toy problems. ChatGPT does not ingest the rows of your spreadsheet as tokens, it just uploads the file and runs Python directly on top of it.
>Our mission is to build a product that makes work life simpler, more pleasant and more productive.

I know it would be impossible but I wish we go back to the days when we didn't have Slack (or tools alike). Our Slack is a cesspool of people complaining, talking behind other people's backs, echo chamber of negativity etc.

That probably speaks more to the overall culture of the company, but Slack certainly doesn't help.You can also say "tool is not the problem, people are" - sure, we can always explain things away, but Slack certainly plays a role here.
Someone mentioned macamp. I have no idea though
For a generative and collaborative web app, you would have to hook up those declarative components to function calls which are also declaratively written and perhaps use OT/CRDTs to mutate state.
> the laws of physics do not stop anything from moving more than 14 times per second,

Sorry, but this is like saying the laws of physics do not stop you from moving from Mars to Earth 14 times per second. In fact, they do. The same is true of moving ink particles within a high density high viscosity physical medium and getting them to stay at a specific location once you're done moving them.

Also "almost never use the whole screen at once" makes no difference since the rate of movement of ink is the same even if you were only trying to change 1 pixel.
This is the crux of it, and where I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Can it, today? My understanding is it cannot discern reality from fiction, thus "hallucinations" (a misnomer because it implies awareness, which these probability models lack).
> We offer Customers a choice around these practices. If you want to exclude your Customer Data from helping train Slack global models, you can opt out. If you opt out, Customer Data on your workspace will only be used to improve the experience on your own workspace and you will still enjoy all of the benefits of our globally trained AI/ML models without contributing to the underlying models.

Why would anyone not opt-out? (Besides not knowing they have to of course…)

Seems like only a losing situation.
If this looks attractive to a founder:

""We want to be the first check in." "We add value" 'We are responsible investors". "We're in for the long run". "We back outliers" and the oh-so-famous "Let me know how I can be helpful".

then what they should look for is a skilled operational partner with a high-ish IQ and a stable personality, almost certainly with access to money that can be used for bootstrapping the business. You know, a virtually nonexistent unicorn in the circles that most people operate. Someone who is as rare as the right spouse. That combination is worth a hefty percentage.

VC money isn't optimal for the initial startup phase. Everyone will be happier, detail nitpicking will be nonexistent, and the VC involvement will be more natural at the point in which customer acquisition rate and the cost of that volume is outpacing revenue, which should be the exponential growth curve often in years 5-10. Sometimes an acquisition comes soon after.

If a founder cares about their business, then asking VC to essentially be their startup partner is asking for trouble in a lot of instances.
4o's image generation has not been rolled out to anyone yet. There isn't even a timeline (unlike the new voice). I would be surprised if it could draw chess boards properly but we don't know for sure yet.
I live in a former yugoslav socialist building, and our external walls are made from reinforced concrete. Our internal walls are reinforced concrete. Our bathroom walls are reinforced concrete. Drilling a hole to pull a network cable from one room to another is a pain.

On the other hand... this are the results of a rather large gas explosion: https://novice.svet24.si/clanek/novice/crna-kronika/5be30a53... and another one: https://www.24ur.com/novice/crna-kronika/v-stanovanju-eksplo...

Fires usually stay contained to one unit for quite a lot of time, especially if the firefighters water everything from both sides (windows and doors).
It's up to you how much you trust the traffic on that machine and how you've set up access rights etc. In principle, a process with the right capabilities could snoop on the unencrypted traffic but might not be able to snoop on encrypted traffic. However, given how common local privilege escalations bugs are, if an attacker process is running on the same system, you have probably already lost (especially one that has enough privileges to capture network traffic).
Just more proof that OpenAI is now a product led company and not a research led company (obviously they will continue to research but that will lead to consumer product).

Big pivot.
I'm confused, this is for proxmox.
What are you expecting for firewalls, something that automates the automation you get when launching an iso? Or something that configures the internals of the firewall? Cause that isnt going to be a thing, i think.
Broken window theory. Once a few things have graffiti, it will quickly proliferate including stuff that isn't exactly aesthetic.
This is a new "intrusion" and in fact it even happened on my work computer (Win 11 Pro). I was shocked to see it the other day, but honestly I shouldn't be. We see Microsoft pushing out their AI copilot thing, putting a pride flag in the start menu in June, etc. I can't wait to get my personal computer back to Linux (as soon as I finish up my master's work).
> We just need exciting products now.

Will you be working on such a product? :-D
This is as good a place as any to tell a story about a grammar disagreement that effectively broke up a local social group. To protect the innocent, let's say the group consisted of cousins.

It was a new club, and its logo was being designed. The first draft came back misspelled. But club members couldn't agree what the correct spelling was.

Group A said it was "The Cousins Club." They said "cousins" was an attributive adjective.

Group B said it was "The Cousins' Club." To them, "cousins'" was a plural possessive adjective.

Group C said it was "The Cousin's Club." They couldn't name the specific part of speech, and during the discussion demonstrated that apostrophe's belong in lot's of place's.

The club did not survive this disagreement. I believe they did get the logo designed, but there were enough hurt feelings from the discussion that all the original momentum was lost.
Feel free to look at the outline comparison on Wikipedia:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Comparis...

The pyramid of Cholula (larger by volume), the Luxor hotel (smaller, but substantially more useful), and Ryugyong hotel (hobbled by the country building it) are all plausibly comparable projects.
The detective work was fun I'm sure but ultimately unnecessary. The burden of proof lies on the seller. Stuff like this is fake by default unless it comes with a certificate of authenticity issued by some trusted party. There's a reason that entire industry exists. Believe me there are much, much better fakes than this one sold online for pretty much every collectable in existence.
That German Red Cross invoice is 100% absolutely a fake.

Source: I'm a German who has donated to the red cross. That ain't it.

(Also: There needs to be a a specific key phrase without which the German equivalent of the IRS will come down on you like a ton of bricks. It is missing)