skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That sounds kind of snobby, in that it's largely theoretical but just doesn't work in the real world. It's like trying to explain to someone why a good Napa Cabernet is so much better than the $5 Merlot they like.

"Well, it was grown from the Carneros region, fermented in French Oak barrels, then cellared for 10 years."

"Yeah, but this Carlo Rossi Paisano tastes better."

(and I say this as a devoted wine snob.)

CSS is one of those things that sounds great "it lets you separate presentation" but just kinda sucks for some purposes. The problem is, all of the theory is just generally not how it functions in the real world. In the real world, if you're running one site and redesigning it, you're doing just as much changes anyway. You're not just changing some colors and some background images and voila. You're moving things around drastically. (If you could do absolute positioning, it would function a lot better in that regard, but then your page will look crappy because it will be left-aligned in browsers rather than centered.)

CSS doesn't really seem to be meant to do layouts anymore than tables were, as evidenced by all of the hacky kludges you have to use to get it to work that way. Every time I find myself typing style="clear:both" I wonder why the hell I'm doing it. Still I did, grudgingly because guys like you tell me I should, and I wanted to learn .

Don't get me wrong, CSS is great for some things. Defining fonts, sizes, colors, hovers, etc. But for layouts, tables are often easier to implement, easier to maintain, and equally hard to change later. Even though I'm highly competent with CSS, I don't think I'd do it that way in the future.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition to make $$ on YouTube
College Students Drink, Eat Ramen Noodles… and Freelance?
http://www.qcodo.com, which now has been forked to http://qcu.be
Microsoft contributes code to Apache interoperability effort
It’s official, print is dead
I highly recommend at a minimum reading http://clojure.org/rationale for the rationale behind Clojure.

What about Clojure strikes you as being a 'compromise intended to bring Lisp to the JVM'?
Sorry, I meant rise in the value of money.

If you're going to define deflation as a fall in the price of any basket of goods, then you're just using it to mean 'the price of something went down'. You can do that if you want, but it's hardly helping the conversation.
noprocrast:
maxvisit:
minaway:

No one actually uses the above features??? It really helps me to reduce my visits to YC less than 3 times everyday. My maxvisit is 60 and minaway is 180. This means that I can only visit HN for a maximum of 60 mins for every 180 mins interval.
Thanks for that - I just got a room full of odd looks for my audible outburst when I read that line!
I'll never understand why people use DoJo.

Its greatest strength are all the "widgets" i guess you'd call them. However they are all not created equal. Some are well polished and deliver acceptable performance levels and other times they are just demos and hacks.
OP here, I am watching this thread but not replying to anyone yet, but I want to clarify this phrase. It's not really mine (at least its meaning) but I couldn't find who said it first to give credit, since the words aren't exactly how I typed.

Anyway, it's something that has bugged me for some time. Lots of "web 2.0" companies think that users will come and start to post a lot of stuff, and the reality is that unless you can give them some kind of semi-instantaneous gratification, they'll never post anything.

Wish I could find who said it first. I think it captures a lot of the hype behind the web 2.0 buzzword.
http://www.djangopony.com/
Don't forget to tip your waiter.
What's left?  Porn?
Seriously... Are there any good ideas out there anymore. I feel like I can build anything but everytime I start with an idea, some duche makes it and markets it before I finish so I give up. Forget about the recession! We are having a recession of ideas!

My goals are simple.
1) Make money with minimal effort...aka via subscriptions or advertising.
2) Provide NO support. I love building stuff but the support (ussualy for free) thing gets boring and non-profitable.
3) Be as lazy as possible but pay off my debt.

So... what kind of site is this people? It's Porn... how depressing.

Anybody have any better plans?
This debate is endless. Simply put, there is no clear answer.

Clearly, from what you've stated, CSS is not your forte. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, there was a time that I felt exactly like you. Now however, I find CSS/tableless html easier, faster and cleaner overall. I use it exclusively for general presentation. It really shines when I need to fix websites after the fact, or two clients want different presentations of the same code/datasets. It's a lot of fun to limit presentation to 2-3 files, rather than your entire codebase.

That said, what's your motivation here? Do you believe/recognize the benefits of CSS, or are you just feeling guilty because "all the cool kids are doing it"?

If the former is your thinking, you have to realize that you are in learning mode. Of course it's going to be harder. You're comparing a learning state to a mastered state. Riding a bicycle is a lot harder if all you've done is ride tricycles. It says nothing though about whether learning to ride a bike is beneficial to you or worth the time and effort.

If you can see that moving to CSS layouts would have noticeable impact on your production, tough it out, it gets easier I swear. If you can't see any benefit to switching, then don't.
Django. It was a toss up for me between Django and Rails but at the time, the updated Rails book was not out yet and the Django book was.

And Django has a magic pony. http://djangopony.com/
WebObjects. I don't like Java, or Eclipse, which makes it an odd choice, but it was Rails before Rails, and still has a lot of advantages over it. The ORM works hand-in-hand with the framework to do proper persistence, and while I rage against the tools sometimes, they're still better than being dumped back at a texteditor.

If only Apple would give it some more love, it'd be killer.
Thanks! The contact form is here: https://forms.cert.org/VulReport/

edit: and I've submitted the report.
If you're going to define deflation as a fall in the price of any basket of goods, then you're just using it to mean 'the price of something went down'.

That would be the same thing as a rise in the value of money.

You can [flexibly define things narrowly or broadly] if you want, but it's hardly helping the conversation.

Do you use a different word for "temperature" for the temperature in your home, because some other parties use the word "temperature" to mean "gobal temperature"?

Different economic actors will value different things at different rates. Economic actors that happen to value computers highly will indeed perceive a rise in the value of money when computer prices drop.
geuis: My social games company is always on the lookout for good engineers. Why don't you shoot me an email at siqi[at the domain]seriousbusiness.com. We're a pretty small team of < 20 guys, two technical co-founders (I was in YC for a week or so) with a team of really smart engineers (some ex-Powerset, some ex-Google), and we've got an awesome casual but focused culture.

We are metrics driven, and iterate extremely quickly (we deploy dozens of times in any given day). I think you'll like it here if you're frustrated at where you are because your voice isn't getting heard and you aren't moving fast enough.
Leadership, NBA All-Stars, and lessons through self-employment
Why web standards are good for you and your business
I write my own mostly-modular parts. It isn't as flexible as I'd like it to be, but it does what I need it to do.
Reg, shot you an email yesterday about a job. Still on the market? =)
Beautiful Accidents
Java, so I prefer Wicket and like Stripes.
Looks cool.

The links in A,CNAME etc was confusing, I thought it was more like a search option. i.e to list only CNAME record etc(just like search web,images)

The report bugs/features should ideally be a form. Its very frustrating when clicking on that starts to open a mail client.

Otherwise looks good, pretty fast.
When using Java, I prefer Stripes. For a new project I would definately use Python and Django.
But deflation is not defined that way. It's defined as a decline of the general price level, and this is measured using a basket of goods that is intended to reflect general prices. You can pick holes in the problem of measuring 'general' prices if you want, but that is nevertheless the definition.
Nothing is "wrong" with doing that. What advantage to you hope to get by combining metrics?
Double click/tap detection on android's MapView
compojure - best option in Clojure so far.
I don't know. You could post the question to HN :)
Open source and Java feel first Sun cuts
I used to be pretty big into Zend. I didn't like ActiveRecord in Ruby, or it always felt too confining, and liked the additional control over my models that Zend gave me.

I've recently become a Django convert (not for the pony, that was new to me just now) because the framework just works. I haven't quite worked out the magic required to stand up a Django/MySQL/Apache/Mod_Python server on Windows yet, but it's working perfectly in my VM, so I haven't pursued it very far yet.
I like Rails with my Ruby.
Pylons. http://pylonshq.com/
What about the following idea: Always take the top-story off the front page and instead only show it on the "new" page? So the front page remains very useful, but if you want to look for the very top story, you also have to take a look at the new ones. Couldn't this be an adjustment to better "pivotize" the signal/noise problem?

(Addition: It may be better to take the two (or three) most popular stories.)
deflation is not defined that way. It's defined as a decline of the general price level

And the term "general" is also defined. It can mean general within a nation. It can mean general worldwide. It can mean general on a continent. It can mean general in a state. It can mean general in an economic sector (food, computers, cars, clothes, houses, etc.). Etc.

So, we have to use a different word to describe non-general price declines? If so, what word would you suggest? http://www.google.com/search?q=deflation+prices+computers

Why would it be OK to use the word "temperature" in different contexts, but not the word "deflation"? What about the word "pressure"? Should we use a different word for tire pressure, because of the fact that "pressure" is also used in other contexts?
I noted you posted to the twitter dev mailing list with that. I don't understand it at all. This is mainly because the site is really difficult to parse.

Can you explain it in 50 characters? Now make that explanation really big on your front page, under the site name, which should be bigger. Organize all the content below that, and make login/account creation on a separate page.
In the recent years I have built my own, mostly basing it on other libraries and reusing as many things as possible.

In Python there's something called WSGI (Web Server Gateway Interface) which makes it trivial to implement your own framework. Around 2 years ago I wrote a blog post about WSGI and how to quickly build a Python framework http://amix.dk/blog/viewEntry/105 In the recent years WSGI has grown a lot. Check out wsgi.org for more info.

One can learn a lot of things by making and using own stuff, but it can also be very frustrating (because of bugs and lack of resources). But generally, I like to use own my stuff and my own conventions - I know at least who to blame when some stuff does not work or something is "ugly" :)
> Thus their future wealth is decreased.

From what it would be if they got to borrow money for free, yes. However, their future wealth is still higher than it would be if they didn't take the loan in the first place and therefore could not generate that income. Of course the creditor expects more "real value" back than he loaned out - he wouldn't be in business very long otherwise.

> If everyone increases their liquidity preference, real wealth is destroyed

Nothing is destroyed, production has been delayed. Natural resources stay in the ground and people enjoy time off, rather than being forced to work full time just to dump their excess income into nondurable goods. Unless your goal is to strip mine the planet as fast as possible, these are good things.

> Have you never delayed buying a new console because you knew the price would drop soon? I have.

Precisely! My point about electronics is that people delay purchases, but don't stop altogether. Cautious purchasing based on real costs is healthy; the cheap-money fueled consumerism bubble of the past decade is not.
Indeed! In my experience, the best captcha is asking for a credit card number.
This doesn't matter.

I have a "free" subscription to my local paper. In this case, this means my "free" subscription is tossed like so much litter on my driveway every few days and if I could stop it, I would. I certainly don't read it; it simply goes in the trash. About once a month, a headline catches my eye and I read it as far as I can without taking it out of the bag (too much work), then toss it.

Newspapers aren't dying because nobody can afford them... or lack access in any other way. This solves the wrong problem. 18yos are very aware of the state of newspapers and are unlikely to change their minds as the result of more information.
The purpose of the reference count is to only deallocate memory once. You create it (copy constructor, count = 1), you pass it to a function (count = 2), come out of the function (destructor, count = 1) and finally return from the original function (count = 0, deallocate). It's like passing a hashtable around in Lisp - it doesn't pass a copy, it passes a pointer, and thus is more efficient on memory usage and speed.
Hey, me again.

After having used your service for a bit, I wanted to say that the single biggest pain is that title of a feed item looks identical to the description text of the feed above it, so it kind of looks like the description text just has a line break and some more text, not like a new item has started. So the items all seem to bleed into one another.

Perhaps get rid of the "Link" and make the title a link to the item itself? Or seperate each item with an <hr>?

One other thing. Is there a better way to store feeds than feedstomper.com/82.xml? I imagine that will be a ton of processing power and data necessary to store if a lot of people start using your service. And I'm not sure how you handle multiple requests for the same feed, or look to see if people stop subscribing to a certain feed.

Why not something more like feedstomper.com/?feed=http://www.reddit.com/.rss or something? But if you switch to that, will everyone who is already subscribed to 43.xml and 95.xml find that their feeds get broken?

Also, it means that I can just browse around and take a look at 32.xml or 15.xml and check out what everyone else is reading, which might be problematic if people are submitting personal feeds, from say, "friend's shared items" from google reader.

And what about a "when do you want this feed updated" option? Ideally I want it to update just before I (arbitrarily) decide to access it, so the feed is as current as possible despite having only updated once that day.

It's possible that I'm being pre-emptive and you have already thought of these things. You did specifically ask for problems, rather than feature requests.

But I like the service; the few alternatives I know of are not nearly as elegant.
It's certainly alarmingly addictive. Much more so than a newspaper. I've been wondering lately what to do about that. Any ideas?

I considered shutting the site down for a couple hours a day. More people disliked that idea than liked it

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=372593

but the vote was close enough that I might still try it.
What about abstracting out the personal details so you can have something like "KellyClarkson.hotornot.com"

That way you can use one domain for all your polling.
The LtU blog moved to http://lambda-the-ultimate.org & the quoted discussion is archived at http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/classic/message8778.html#8782
http://hackety.org/2008/09/15/documentsRevealDjangoPonyTailO...

(Also, read the comments for more fun)
For what it's worth, I've had good results with the opposite approach. My daughter (now 7) has been allowed to curse as long as she's been allowed to talk.

That said, there are boundaries that she understands clearly -- she's not allowed to use curse words at school, for the same reasons I choose not to swear at work. She knows and understands that it isn't an appropriate place to use foul language. At home, she's free to use whatever language crosses her mind.

She is also not allowed to curse AT people anywhere, because it's mean.

She's a smart, responsible, well adjusted child who rarely uses foul language. Occasionally we'll hear something like "I can't figure out how to work this damn thing," when playing on the Wii, but she doesn't run around like a Tourette's sufferer either.
It's not a gift to 18yr olds. It's a gift to the newspaper industry.
I assumed that serious issues such as illegal behavior were obviously excluded from my statement. Your case also applies to the defense industry where disclosure of classified information can land you in jail. I'm talking about clearly legitimate out-of-work activities here.
If temperature meant 'global temperature' then it would indeed be wrong to use it to describe your room temperature. But it doesn't mean that, so it isn't.

> what word would you suggest?

How about 'falling prices'?

>And the term "general" is also defined.

Now you're just trolling.
CGI::Application in Perl. Just to be contrary. Well, not really. I still love Perl. Nothing wrong with the alternatives... it's just what I like.
I wish people wouldn't say 23,000% when it would be more comprehensible to say 230 x. It's a bit like those submissions to other news sites where they would say 23,000.00% to make the number look even bigger.

/hobby horse
Assuming you are referring to the purpose of the site, not the login procedure...

Have you seen it recently? I've made another attempt to explain it on the front page.

If it is still difficult to parse, could you be specific about what doesn't make sense?
Don't have a lot of time for Cringely any more.

However there is a strong argument for breaking Microsoft up in to smaller units - gaming, office, OS and hardware.

If broken up I think the individual units would have a lot more drive, focus and identity.

It must be quite depressing being a creative developer in a company that does so much you can never feel you'll make a difference.
you wouldn't happen to work for NG?
I use Django when I need full-stack and CherryPy when I need something lighter. I've also used web.py.
>> what word would you suggest?

> How about 'falling prices'?

You are going to have to go after a lot of people and criminally prosecute them for illegally using the term "deflation" instead of the legal term "falling prices". http://www.google.com/search?q=deflation+prices+housing There are over 2 million Google hits for housing-price deflation, alone.
Seconding. The ability to use SQLAlchemy and Jinja2 is fantastic; I personally think they're better than Django's ORM and templating system.
Ask HN: Startups' wishlist?
Inspired by #30 on YC's "Ideas We'd Like to Fund": What service(s) do startup founders wish existed and were done in a startupy fashion? Equivalently, what needs do most startups have in common that could be abstracted and simplified by single startup?
The joke's on French taxpayers!
In this economy, we're all entrepreneurs
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There is a general temperature in my refrigerator. There are also more-specific temperatures in my refrigerator. Each of those specific temperature areas can also be described as general, because within-them are yet more temperatuire areas and of even-greater specificity.

There is also a general temperature of my home. The general temperature of my fridge contributes to that. In turn, the general temperature of the top shelf of my fridge contributes to the general temperature of my fridge.
I use LeftParen (http://leftparen.com), a PLT Scheme web framework (that I happen to maintain).
Imagine how much power Google could harness if they just put a little JavaScript that did some parallelizable task on google.com. Since it's so many people's default page, at any given time there's probably millions of computers idling with it open.

If I were Google I would be sooo evil.
FeedBurner sucks - But what options do you have ?
For long, the A list bloggers like TC and RWW have complained about how pathetic FeedBurner has gotten over the last year or so:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/01/22/feedburner-needs-to-get-it-together/
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/feedburner_may_not_be_hearing.php

As a blogger who uses FB, I completely agree - but then whats the alternative ? The value FB provides is far outweighed by how much it really sucks these days. I would happily stop using it if it werent the problem of having the few thousand subscribers to update my feed url. FB has become like a pseudo-lockin - similar to the scenario where you dont really want to change your phone number because all your contacts have the current number.

I think there's potential for someone to start a competing service - where you charge a monthly fee for real time updates - a feature that is oft-needed by these top bloggers. Unpaid subscribers get their feed crawled at a slower rate.

Can you think of a way by which one could move out of FB with the least inconvenience caused to the subscribers.

Edit: Just found that FB provides a 30 day redirect option.
Also just read about FeedSqueezer @ RRW:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/why_were_desperately_awaiting.php

If you're interested in discussing more about this, drop me a line.
You have completely misunderstood the point about debt. They were paying interest before, but the onset of deflation means that the real value of that interest has increased beyond what it was. The creditor charges interest either way, but gets even more real value in a deflationary period than if the deflation had not happened.

> Natural resources stay in the ground and people enjoy time off

Unemployment is not time off, nor is it delayed gratification.

> My point about electronics is that people delay purchases, but don't stop altogether

Yes, they delay their purchases, causing a contraction of the economy that creates real suffering, hence a loss of wealth that otherwise could have existed. Consequently most of the purchases never happen, and are therefore not 'delayed' but lost.

> Prudence is healthy; instant gratification consumerism is not.

It is prudent for the individual and destructive to total economic output. Are you trying to deny that recessions reduce people's wealth?
I thought this question was not only answered, but went away, three or four years ago. The first quick response is that tables for layout is stupid. You lock yourself into a predefined grid which you have little control over, it provides immovable elements that are more difficult to style and is slower to download and render.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Google for more. But you can get any piece of crap markup to make a presentable page on the internet right now. So would you continue to write crap code just because it works? Ridiculous!

Over 4 years of doing this. Never used tables for layout and I do mostly ecommerce sites for national chains.
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My own (PHP5 framework) - Artisan System

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Oh dear, IHBT.
Oh, well, a month part-time doesn't sound so bad. And I already have a lot of the subpar Intel documentation in my head.
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Never used a framework and never will. I know how to code. I do my own sites and don't use others or have others do my work for me.
Catalyst with DBIx::Class (ORM)