skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The Social Life of Paper (2002)
Reports on the continued use of paper records not just as a better visual interface but also as an enabler of different ways of working including utilizing spacial orientation.

This thread

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=434023

made me dig this article up. I believe it's interesting enough that I'm posting it separately, rather than just as a comment.
He invested in a free newspaper, not a traditional one. In a speech in Berlin he said that he is always trying to change the rules of the game. By the way newspapers aren't dead, they are just evolving.
"...Long-term, I think Apple will succeed, with or without Jobs at the helm..."

You obviously weren't with us in the 90s.
Reports on the continued use of paper documents not just as a superior visual interface but also as an enabler of additional ways of working, including using our natural ability for spacial orientation.

Seeing this thread

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=434023

encouraged me to dig the article up. However, I think it is interesting enough that I decided to post it separately rather than merely as a comment in the other thread.
This submission encouraged me to dig up a New Yorker article I recalled that reported some interestng perspectives on this topic.

I've posted the article in this thread:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=434516

I thought it was interesting enough to merit its own thread. I'm a bit surprised it hasn't appeared on HN previously (or so says google).
Google Reduces Hiring Department
Google Closes Offices in in Austin, Texas; Trondheim, Norway; and Lulea, Sweden.
Again, I'm not saying that students are solely carrying the burden of research. There are multiple income sources. But many degree programs are run as revenue generating activities.

But there are a bunch of cross subsidies going on. International/Domestic, Across disciplines, undergraduate/postgraduate. Science students get 3X or more the hours, equipment & materials that sociology or accounting students get. An accounting course (8 courses = 1 year down here) might consist of 2X14 lectures (50-150 students per lecture), 1X12 tutorials(8-15 students) & whatever preparation time is paid (I imagine anywhere from .5 to 2.5 to the hour). Tutors are often only paid in the $20-$30 range. It would not be unusual to average a figure that works out at a small fraction of the cost (or potential cost) to deliver that education.

In general, that hints at a possibility of something flying under the current system & undermining it. All these money machines (eg prestigious MBA programs) could go outside the big institutions. You might say these programs are worthless without the prestige of the institution. Well that's another problem.
All the news cares about is AAPL and not Apple or Jobs The Human. I'm not surprised -- and no one should -- because it all fundamentally comes down to money. The people in charge care about money and I'm sure Jobs knows this. He's already probably dead to the investors anyways. Only hackers or other ancillary types (in the grand scheme of things) care about innovation or the tech behind it. So save your tears for Woz's wake.
Maybe I do something unusual - I pick a completely random seed artist in an genre I don't usually listen to. Then I do the Pandora rating voodoo and before very long I've got a channel I like. I've had good luck finding new classical and jazz music this way. (Pop/Rock Top N I can get anywhere, and I haven't seen many indie bands on Pandora anyway.)
What's more terrible and unfortunate is the fact that not only is this the top story on CNN and Google News, but today's supreme court decision doesn't even make it onto either page. Not even below the fold.
If you use iTunes, check out Genius. I only tried for the first time yesterday, but was amazed at the degree of interesting new music that matched my tastes.
This is not terrible news. Terrible news would be him staying on while he was sick and making it worse. The man is taking a really brief respite to rest after contracting an illness. That's what he's SUPPOSED to do.

Realty check: People get sick and they rest and then they get better. That's what's happening here.

If this were undiagnosed, or a really serious condition, or life threatening, or anything like that I'd have a different opinion. But as of right now all I see is a bunch of people trying to make a really big deal out of a relatively small thing in order to drive hits/sell newspapers.
You know, I'm sure Jobs did good. But I think a lot of it was timing.

Apple's thing is all-in-one machines that are sexy. Always has been. Phones, MP3s players, maybe TVs & that whole market really moved towards Apple's pre-existing strategies. The 90s were about being able to afford to put a computer on each desk. They were never as good at that.
I trust David Byrne.
http://www.davidbyrne.com/radio/

For some reason I stopped listening to new music around 1990. Recently I tried to find new stuff on the internet. I made my favorite discoveries on David Byrne's playlist.

He posts a new playlist only once a month, but it's not always new music. I don't know much about how music evolved after the eighties. I hope David Byrne has followed this better than me. We may be both merely listening to new oldfashioned music.
How Steve was outed in the 80's is far different then how he would leave if he had to leave today. In the 80's, he was forcibly removed from his position and couldn't set anything up. Today? Apple has people like Schiller, Ive and Cook - all more then capable - to run things.

//edit: Fixed the dates. Thanks for pointing it out. And yes, I did typo twice ><
allmusic.com and friends
Disclaimer to the downmodders: I'm not pro-Israel at all--I just think this sort of downmodding the other side of an issue, regardless of the merits of the post itself, is ridiculous.

Sigh, I was going to upmod you, and then you added that. That's EXACTLY the problem! You shouldn't need to kowtow to the "popular" position in order to not get downmodded! Wasn't that exactly the point of your comment?

You are basically saying that if people think you are pro-israel you will be downmodded - that's disgusting.
I agree. Monetizing something that is already there can be extremely insightful. And writing any good production oriented code takes talent.

So this really comes down to how remarkable an insight you feel the "one way to convert eyeballs into cash" truly is. It sounds like Noah noticed that 37Signals was leveraging its popularity with developers to run a profitable job site, realized that JOS could do the same, and convinced the boss to do it.

So yes, it is significant. It's really a matter of how significant it is... sounds like I'm saying it's significant, and you're saying it's very, very significant.

Reminds me of a time where Ebert thought a movie was the best of the year, and Siskel just thought it was a damn good movie. Those arguments are kind of strange, because there's very little to really disagree about. You have one person saying "how could you not see how awesome this is", and the other saying "well yeah, it's definitely really good."
isn't that one of the killer apps of youtube?
>Realty check: People get sick and they rest and then they get better.

Pretty often, actually, people get sick and then die. Especially people who've had cancer. :(

Reading between the lines here, I suspect his health is in really bad shape. I hope I'm wrong, though.
Interesting side no.te:

If you ask a bunch of people on a project to estimate modestly how much they 've contributed, you almost always get >100%
Fuck all education. Start your own business instead of going to preschool
You are basically saying that if people think you are pro-israel you will be downmodded - that's disgusting.

But that's the entire point of this post--that's what happened right here in this thread! People are downmodding because of contrary opinions, whether we like it or not.

By the way, I'm not pro-Palestine either--I would say I'm neutral, but it's more of a case of "I could care less, and it helps me avoid wasting time on useless flamewars."
My heartfelt epic blog post about Steve Jobs
Enough of HN is from Reddit that you're almost certain to get the same sort of thing here, too.

Though many News.YC users used Reddit before (or may still), the people who've migrated here are not randomly selected Reddit users. Judging by their comments, News.YC users seem quite different from Reddit users.
Majority. After market prices are still down over 6%.
This vividly shows how important usability is.
Steve was outed in the 90's

80's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Beginnings_of_Apple_...
No, I don't think that's OK.

Downmod stuff that's wrong, downmod trolls. And upmod the good stuff. Leave the stuff you disagree with alone. And if you can't tell the difference between "wrong" and "disagree with" then leave it alone.

And for stuff that's wrong, downmod just a little as a signal to people, especially if there are comments correcting it. Everyone is wrong sometimes, unless the person is flamebaiting there is no reason to punish someone for being wrong.

The philosophy of HN is upmod the good stuff - there is a reason you can't downmod a story.
Twitter Blog: Building on Open Source
Yea, just add the quirky English translations like in 'Iron Chef' and I'll watch it all day long!
If you're going to get into options, you can sell a bullish straddle, but that assumes that the share price won't go back to its highs (a fair assumption).

Selling put verticals would work too as it limits your risk.

Actually selling puts is going to depend on what the implied volatility looks like on the open.

Of course I'll be on my blog and stocktwits talking about it at 935 tomorow.
What's the over/under on a shareholder lawsuit?
In mid-2000, at the zenith of the company's success, they were worth more than C$1,100 each, adjusted for a stock consolidation that took place in late 2006.

Wow, what a free fall.
BTW here is my take on it as a current Qt commercial licence owner: http://successfulsoftware.net/2009/01/14/qt-to-be-available-...
I think them hosting on Vimeo is the reason why sponsors aren't taking them seriously. I mean what does it tell the sponsors when they can see that only 149 people "liked" the episode.

They should reupload to youtube, where they can avoid that "like" metric
Steve was outed in the 80s. And yes, he's leaving a company in much better shape than it was back then.

Yet I'm not as optimistic as you are. None of the people you mentioned have comparable salesmanship abilities, or product vision. Sure, Ive can create great designs, their engineering teams are awesome, and Cook is operationally without peer.

But who comes up with the next iPhone, or decides to simplify the product line like Steve did when he came back?
Apple has people like Schiller, Ive and Cook - all more then capable - to run things.

Why don't Schiller, Ive or Cook deliver the keynote address?
Hi, this is my first post here. Couldn't resist it when people were rattling off their ICQ number. Mine's 1010378.
I'm betting on a investor lawsuit over the SEC. If they knowingly misled their shareholders they're in for a world of hurt.
eBay founder's new venture...a twitter app?
I know you recognized the problem. But why didn't you resist? Why did you add that?

By the way, I'm not pro-Palestine either--I would say I'm neutral, but it's more of a case of "I could care less, and it helps me avoid wasting time on useless flamewars."

I don't need to know your position on Israel/Palestine in order to decide if I should up or downmod you. You are too used to reddit.

You had a good point, and again here, you should have stopped there.

Don't feed the people downmodding because of contrary opinions by posting your opinion if it has nothing to do with your point. Yes there are some people doing that, but I think most HN's are not. Trust that they will do the right thing, and don't encourage people who will do the wrong thing.
Because their cash flow from their current product lines will dry up as soon as he leaves.
It also shows how much users resent registration - which comes up here at least once a day.
Schiller and Ive were both there during the dark days. Ive designed the Newton and the Performa.

The thing about Jobs is he can marshall talent in a way that really drives technical staff nuts at the time, but delights them with the results. Other boards give the technical people their heads, and then you end up with OpenDoc and Taligent. God knows who can replace that. Gassée couldn't.
What's really funny about this is reading the comments and watching Arrington make an ass of himself.

I realize he's known for his volatile personality and taking everything personally, but wow, does this guy ever have issues.
IPhone developers...anyone have experience with them?
Where do I find iPhone developers? Does somebody have some experiences to share? Or recommendations?
"However, after much consideration, we have with great regret decided that we need to go further and reduce the overall size of our recruiting organization by approximately 100 positions."

Uh, wow. If they're cutting by 100, how many did they have to start with?
Schiller did deliver the keynote address.
I think the point is that a feature that's technically trivial can have a profound effect when applied to an object like a novel, which has lacked that feature for its entire three-century existence.
Typo. They keys are right next to each other and all. Sorry about that.
It's not quite as obvious for a shopping site. Users are going to all the necessary information anyway, but if you pose the question as "Would you like to save this information" at the end instead of "Create an account to get started", it makes a world of difference.
Not that often and those who are ill enough to be at risk of death are usually hospitalized.

More to the point he has a disease that causes depression, fatigue, hair loss, urinary tract infections, and other embarassing conditions. So it makes perfect sense for him to stay at home to recover.

Other than he had Cancer 5 years ago what lines are you reading in between that makes you think he's sicker than he says?
Wouldn't companies want to reward people for assuming an extra role and creating value, regardless of whether it is deserved?

The more I think about it, the difficulty of implementing a policy like this could be the show stopper here.
Every passionate developer deserves an aluminum MacBook + an extremely big external screen with resolution at least 1920x1280.

No, don't go for the plastic refurbs, even it saves you some bucks. In the long run you'll be much much happier.

Dell 600m ... I used to live in the same dorm with a guy owning such a machine back in college. Things impressed me include:

- key caps kept falling out while typing

- hot enough to burn your hands in summer (turned out to be very useful in winter, though)

- extremely noisy fan

- battery recalled due to possibility to explode (Sony's fault, as I remember)
Part of the problem with respect to applying this to vaccinations is that vaccines have a low but non-zero chance of failure.

If everyone gets vaccinated, and 1% fail (that's just an arbitrary number), it's no big deal because there isn't enough of a population to carry an outbreak.

But if 1% of vaccinated patients are vulnerable, and 5% of people choose not to get vaccinated, then now there's a potential for outbreak, and even some people who vaccinated get sick.

In economic terms, by not vaccinating you're introducing a negative externality into society that you're not paying for, so the true cost to non-vaccinators is artificially low.
I appreciate the core point about the form. But something in me hesitates to believe that this all happened quite the way he says.
cache-money is great idea for a plugin. the author has a really good write up of it:

http://magicscalingsprinkles.wordpress.com/2008/12/11/introd...
Reducing Federal Travel Budget by about $1B using LuckyCal
I'd love to save the feds money.

I'd also love to get in a briefing book in front of the big O.
Not in 2008. They had some guy named Steve Jobs deliver it. Why?
Problems Venture Capitalists Should Have Solved (But Didn't)
the post says "However, we do recognize the upheaval and heartache that these changes may have on Google families, and that we may not be able to keep 100% of these exceptional employees."

So that is <i>some</i> of the 70 employees might be let go.. there is a difference

edit- gotcha, the 100 that you were referring to was the Hiring dept., a separate HN item: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=434522
"Experience with Smalltalk or a dialect of Lisp a plus."

Clever filter :).
Yep, some of us came from Slashdot ;)
Oh, I didn't know there was such a thing... yeah in this case it could be a useful service....
A hormone imbalance is serious. Anything "more complex" than that is very serious.

Anything so serious that it could cause a CEO to leave a company for six months is extremely serious.
The fact that he's taking a significant leave of absence makes me think maybe his doctors said "you have a one in X chance of beating this thing". Again, I really want to be wrong.
What is a sensible person to do, get hold of some of the actual studies by oneself? Without prior knowledge of the problem, I feel inclined to believe the "no causation" camp. But I can also imagine that it is easy to select the proper studies to prove just about anything. For the book in question, how can I be sure that the author didn't chose to only quote the "no causation" studies, and not other ones that might come to other conclusions?

As I said, I would tend to believe the "no causation" camp, but I also don't have 100% faith in doctors...

Recently I was in a heated discussion with a friend about "The China Study", which claims that animal protein causes most of the worst "civilization diseases" like cancer and heart disease. At face value it sounds absurd, because it seems as if people have always been eating lots of meat (not sure if they really have, 150 years ago). So my friend completely rejected the possibility. The book sounded convincing to me, though - but at the end of the day, it is just one guy... At least I tried to Google for articles debunking the book and found none, but there is still a nagging feeling that one might fall for yet another diet scam (although as I said, the book really made a very solid impression on me). Just saying it is a similar problem, who is one to believe?
Why did you say: he was forcibly removed from his position and couldn't set anything up. ?

Did you mean Apple couldn't set anything up, or Jobs couldn't set anything up?
Maybe I'm just looking at things differently, but (to me) you can't just compare Jobs Apple to Post-Jobs Apple. Look at who the rest of the industry has as well. Is there any company that can consistently come close to Apple for any of the things you mentioned?

I think Apple will manage with Schiller delivering keynotes instead of Jobs. The Schillernote at MWSF wasn't bad.
400 total according to what I just heard on cnbc.
Simple question for those who think there's more to Jobs' sickness...

Imagine you're a millionaire hundreds of times over. You get a sickness that makes you tired, causes your hair to fall out and results in you not necessarily being able to control your bladder. Wouldn't you take a few months off?
Another econonmic (but non game theory) perpective on this is that non-vaccinators are incurring a cost to everyone else (paying for health care, the risk of getting sick via failed vaccinations, gov't costs for health campaigns, etc), thus imposing a 'negative externality'.

The general approach to preventing a negative externality is to tax it, so that before you can take an action that 'costs' everyone else, you pay that much into the system.

So raw economics suggests that we figure out the marginal 'cost' of adding one unvaccinated person, and offer to let them 'choose' not to vaccinate if they pay the cost to society up front.

Of course in reality that's all bollocks because the cost goes up once you hit a tipping point (as you said), and trying to identify a monetary damage per-non-immunized is sure to result in a WAG.

Fun problem to think about though.
I don't understand how this affects the system. If the vaccine fails and you need urgent care, you are covered because you did get vaccinated, right? What am I missing?
If GOOG could tell, with certainty, ahead of time what projects were brilliant and which ones were bad, they'd only fund the brilliant ones in the first place, right?

The notion that GOOG is knowingly chasing bad projects solely because their stock price is high seems absurd. I think it's more likely that they just don't, and can't, know ahead of times what's going to stick.
Might be a viable business. Snail mail weekly full size newsprint filled just with comics from artists wanting to push the medium a little. Call it "The Sunday Funnies."
Anyone have an invite code? I would love to try this service out, looks very promising. The first thing I have in mind is allow for call in issue tracking/complaints/bug reports. Something like this coupled with basic speech recognition would easily allow that, and likely cost thousands of dollars less then a similar commercial solution.
Fast forward to January 2009. They had some random guy named Philip Schiller deliver the keynote. Why? See todays news.
Are you kidding? You think things are so bad that it could be fatal yet he's just hangin' out at home? If something's that close to being fatal a person get's hospitalized.

Second this isn't a significant amount of time off. Perfectly healthy 53 year olds with millions of dollars in the bank take sabbaticals all the time.
How about Warren Buffet at Berkshire Hathaway? He's so closely identified with the success, vision, and discipline of Berkshire Hathaway that the share price would surely suffer if he were reported ill.
Jobs.

I thought the reference about being forcibly removed made it obvious. Sorry for the confusion.
Still, why do those sites get so complacent? Seems to be the same with Twitter - maybe I am the only one using it via web, but they don't even have a tinyurl button or a search function for one's followers. What are they doing with their time?
This is more about obstacles in their checkout process rather than any button, but still important lessons to keep in mind.
My prediction: I'll make a better % gain being short on PALM's inflated price post-CES then these AAPL shorters will. Apple is still an extremely strong company with lots of growth potential still left in the computer and phone markets. I'm sure there is money to made with these short term bets but I thought AAPL was bargain at the 85 close today, let alone what it drops to.
Schiller and Ive were both there during the dark days.

Were they at Apple in the same positions as they are in today?
This must be Amazon right? I mean, you can count on one hand the number of retailers that do $300m total online, let alone some multiple.