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At no point does he call on users to say "no" to Axis. The HN title is deeply misleading.
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Yes, but now that it has launched it is a bit late for that.

This is addressed to the general public, not to people within yahoo, it suggests to me that someone internal should have said 'no' but did not so now we get to say no without any specific reason why.
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> Can I import Java libraries into Go?

No. Go compiles to machine code, not the JVM.

Go's built in cgo tool makes it very easy to wrap C code. See http://golang.org/doc/articles/c_go_cgo.html. Crucially, you can write most of the wrapper in pure Go and the C boilerplate code is generated automatically.
This reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Homer is given the job of designing a new car for his brother's auto company.

I just wish Yahoo would wake up and realize that they don't have to compete with Google. They can be successful if they focus on being themselves. Sadly, it may be too late.
I am having trouble seeing the difference between your opinion and that of Linux, to be honest.
You get what you pay for. I think you identified it. You are going to get a decision made after a cursory review of the submitted evidence, i.e. a "gut reaction." Might be little better than a coin flip in some cases.
> "Good Artists Borrow, Great Artists Steal"

Forgive my pedantry, but I hate to see a favorite quote of mine used with the wrong context for the word "steal":

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That's some pretty twisted logic there. By that logic, if Microsoft had banned other browsers from appearing on Windows then because no other browser ever shipped for Windows that would be proof there was no demand for other browsers? Really, that's your logic?

The fact that useful alternatives with possibly better interfaces and/or better features (not just more but better) is something we'll never know if there is a demand for because Apple bans them before we get a chance to know.

Maybe a Hypercard for iOS would take off but apps that make apps are banned. Maybe an Amazon music store or a Google Play music store or a beatport music store would take off but apps that sell music are banned. Maybe a browser that is faster, or more secure or provided more features would take off but we'll never know because they're banned.

We really only have 2 data points. Windows and OSX. As far as I know on both OSes the browser provided by the OS provider is used by fewer users than other browsers. I don't know what the numbers are on OSX but even if Safari has the highest percentage (doubtful) if Firefox+Chrome+Others have a higher percentage than Safari that would still mean more people are picking something other than Apple's offering.
Just want you to know that there will be people who utterly reject your worldview (in a phrase, "yes means no") and all it entails. In your mind consent can be retroactively revoked years after the fact (to wit: "the successful advances were unwanted"). This is Kafkaesque and a frontal assault on the rule of law.

Fortunately, in a digital age, the past is not something Ellen Pao can rewrite at will. Future rule of thumb for anyone so unfortunate as to be caught up in an office romance: get her to put it in electronic form. Just one photographic expression of affection is enough to demonstrate to all and sundry that yeah, at the time, yes did mean yes. Since even admissions of consent no longer seem to preclude bogus charges, it's the only way to avoid being railroaded in a spurious lawsuit with people like you cheering on the travesty of justice.
I found the ad and the video painful to watch. But I still believe the product should be judged on its merits.

As it is this looks as though you're trying to ride on the media buzz generated by the product launch.

Of course Yahoo needs to work on their processes with respect to product definition and execution. That's the whole reason they're dying in the first place.

The just say "No." appears to be addressed to the readers of your post, and to all of the people at Yahoo! inclusive.

But they already gave the indication that they stand behind their product, after all they launched it. If you're going to make a point why they should have said "No." in the first place then you should stick to specifics about the product. After all, if you've already decided that some of the good stuff from the concept will make it into future browsers you are actually saying it is not all bad. And then maybe you should be specific about those things, both good and bad as well.

That would make it a bit easier to say why people should say "No.". Logos, ads and presentation are not a good reason to say "No." to any product.
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I was wondering if there might be some sort of sampling bias at work. It sounds like it still might be, although you mostly have those bases covered. Specifically, people who already use the service know where the feature is, so they know what they need to get rid of to find it. Perhaps more importantly, they know that the feature exists, so they'll be more persistant in finding it. Not having/finding a skip feature is probably a dealbreaker (it certainly was for me, until I came back and saw this), so it would just manifest as some new people not sticking it out for very long.

But maybe that's not it. My other theory is that the less adept a computer user is, the less they're able to ignore popups like that. I've noticed that many less experienced computer users have an almost pathological need to get rid of any sort of dialog box, message, popup window, etc. More advanced users tend to just ignore anything that isn't directly interfering.
I don't get why the compiler speed is such a big deal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_compiler
Larry Ellison (with David Boies as his lawyer) has also recently won a brawl of a lawsuit over a yacht race. They may have made Larry over confident.

As for the yacht race lawsuit, Larry was effectively able to rest control of the most prestigious yacht race in the world via the court room when he couldn't on the water. The lawsuit dragged on for several years but ultimately it is setup Larry winning the championship and bringing it to San Fransico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_America%27s_Cup
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No one has an obligation to tell you about their private financial transactions because you want a "data point."
Wow, I remember reading similar "insight" about top 10 lists back when Digg was the thing. Somehow I'm not surprised this website looks like it was made in 1993.
Bit awkward given the recent happenings over the weekend
http://www.smh.com.au/business/world-business/lawsuits-pile-...
It was in the join the webcast link, but the talk is now over.
I can't argue with that. If you're tracking it and it works then I've learnt something that challenges my preconceptions.
The filing cost does vary between jurisdictions, but about $50 to file, another $20-30 depending on how you serve the defendant, and since there are no attorneys in small claims, that about covers it. the time spent in court could be considered a wash compared to the time spent collecting and sending evidence for arbitration. The point being, my expectation in the first place was that the client would honor the agreement, so expecting them to honor a judgement is a little hard for me to believe. Why take the roundabout path when I can go straight to court? I guess based on my own experience I don't feel this service covers the typical dispute worthy or arbitration/legal action.
A civil end to a dispute can only be accomplished by two civil parties working it out.
I took this to mean that there is only one term of use for Axis right now and it is this: if they ever get terms, those terms will be displayed in that rectangular box with the rounded corners.

Everything else is fair game.
That is incredible!

It's easy to knock the courts, but I think it's worth remembering that becoming a federal judge is very difficult and most of these guys have impressive backgrounds.
I think what irritates me most about Axis is that they had to slap their obnoxious "Yahoo!" logo on it. It just irks me whenever I see it. The way the text is slinky link makes me think of children's toys.
Thank you! And I agree with what you're saying (although it pains me greatly to admit it). It really is difficult to make a sustainable living from the App Store. Even the top apps don't pull in all that much and sales always drop off very rapidly after the initial hype wears off.

I think you'd be crazy to abandon a salaried job in the hope of making it big on the app store. I've been working on Dropzone pretty much full-time for almost 5 years now and only now am I starting to see some payoff. I'm wondering whether having multiple apps might be the key to a more sustainable income. Then you can cross sell and hopefully make more money overall.

Relying on Apple to distribute your apps is also very frightening. I feel that policy changes with regards to things like sandboxing could easily put me out of business, and there's no money to speak of to be found from selling outside App Store.

I love writing apps though so I really hope I can continue to do so.
Keep in mind this started because Google built their own Java implementation from scratch instead of working from the JDK. That said...

a) Java customers tend to also use Oracle DB and Solaris, two other big Oracle products. Revenge on Google can't be worth giving up owning the full stack.

b) Google (perhaps with IBM and Red Hat) would be absolutely delighted to pick up Java development were Oracle to stop working on it; quite the opposite of what Oracle would hope to accomplish.
A browser extension for a search engine is so 2000's
It might mean you can sue them if you cause some harm through use of their service. You have to hurry though!
I'll agree that the title of this probably should have been "Someone should have spoken up a long time ago."

But aside from that, this post showed me the TOS which I had missed earlier. I can't believe something like that slipped past all the people who worked on this.
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The T&C bit made me laugh.

I wonder if they'll fix it in the next 24hrs.

Poor Yahoo.
> See, for instance, teachers' unions fighting for increased educational funding and smaller class sizes, or nurses' unions pushing for universal health care.

Yeah, but you don't get it, I think. They pretend to be on the side to the end user, to get public support for their agenda. And when the State tells them they cannot do much to reduce the number of kids per class, then the unions come back on "salary negociations". They typically play the game of asking for irrealistic goals to push for more benefits, with the taxpayer money. I have seen this hundreds of time. And let's not forget the incredible pressure put on non-unionized employees by union members. This is downright criminal and would be considered as power harassment if it were from a boss or colleague, but since they are powerful unions, they can get away with everything.
Beginning of the end for the patent wars?
It doesn't sound like you're using the benchmarking tools that Go provides; I'd recommend using that if you're not.

Ah, yeah, I was testing a much much smaller byte array with multiple split points.
I'm not terribly surprised that in your case you've found the hand-coded byte version to be faster (though the difference is more than I would've guessed; care to post the code?)
However, I'm still not sure it's merited in the standard library. Split() could pretty easily be further specialized to basically call your single byte implementation or equivalent at the cost of a handful of instructions per call. Alternately, if you know you're dealing with very large byte slices with only a few split points, it is only a couple lines of code to write a specialized version that is tuned for that. The same argument could be make for IndexByte, but I'd claim that IndexByte is a much more fundamental operation in which one more often has need for a hand-tuned assembly implementation. I wouldn't say the same for Split. There's a benefit to having fewer speed-specialized standard library calls, and I don't think splitting on a byte with performance as a primary concern happens often enough to merit another way to split on a byte in the standard library.
But I'm certain that reasonable people who are smarter than me would disagree.
phew, at least the empty TOS has a real TOS linked at the bottom.
I noticed that too. Especially since chrome already has a "Search google for foobar" in the right click context menu.
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"However, in the 4% of awards that are not honored, the prevailing party must seek to [enforce the award] by asking a court where the losing party has assets to turn the arbitration award into a court judgment, upon which the judge can than issue a [fieri facias] ("fi fa" in short), which is an order to the local sheriff to seize enough property of the losing party to make the prevailing party whole again, as well as to (typically) cover the court costs incurred by the entire process of enforcement. (This is why 96% of losing parties pay immediately: Not complying will most likely only incur more court expense for them and cause embarrassment from a forced property seizure.)"

I had to do this once. It takes a lot of time to figure it all out. I'd prefer to stick with milestones and escrow and avoid the whole legal fight.
I think it's the latter, and there is definitely a possibility that it's a behavior in usage that makes the difference. But I don't think we should rule out that the HN crowd just likes to nitpick. ;)
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Maybe on the website, but not in the App Store app itself (yet).
No, actually these kinds of things are binary. Either you launch with something that isn't good enough, or you launch with something that is good enough. It takes talented people to know when that line is crossed.

My point with this post was to highlight the importance of people within an organization like Yahoo having the ability to veto product launches when the line hasn't been crossed. Hundreds of people were involved with Axis, no doubt, and many of them I am sure experienced the same pain that you did when you watched the ad. This is not about the product, per se. It's about the state of the product right now, and the ability of the designers/engineers to make great stuff.
One of the reasons why it happens is because it's all too easy for someone to "make their bones" by criticizing someone famous. If you're a blogger, and you're trying to get attention (or trying to get karma points on Hacker News :-), what better way than to slam someone like Linus Torvalds by saying, "Shame, shame! You should suffer fools, and it's bad form to call people who are idiots for what they are."
I don't want to pile on, but after watching both videos on my Android the screen just goes black when it's done playing. I actually had to press my power button to get the screen back, unlock the phone and then backout from the popup player. I can't remember this happening to me before. Revolutionizing indeed.
That's because it was made in the 90's. Maddox has been writing for ages [1], and he keeps the site "shitty" as a sign of protest [2].

[1] http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=archive

[2] http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=faq
I pointed out that they never give a specific reason for preferring spaces. At least you did that.

You can still achieve what you want, and even faster, by using tabs to get your subsequent parameter lines most of the way there and then padding with a couple of spaces.
I definitely couldn't find the skip control after quite a bit of looking. Maybe I just had a dumb moment, or it's due to how I approach these things, but mine, at least, wasn't due to nitpicking! Can't speak for anybody else, of course.
A small detail here. Corporations use THEIR money to follow what they want to do. That is not for your to decide what they should do or not do. Unless they indulge in illegal activities. And let's not make a generalization here. There may be a few big corporations actually involved in bribing, but most certainly a large majority has never done so. This is not the core of their business.

Unions regularly abuse taxpayer money with their agendas. And you have no say about it. Their business is corruption and pressure on officials. That is what they thrive on. Thay do not "produce" anything.

No way you can compare one with the other.
I don't think he's denying the merits. You need to interpret closely what he is saying.

The essential premise is to say that the product is flawed, archaic and intrusive. It's based off of a "toolbar" premise that evolving technology has eclipsed years ago.

Then he talks about how the investment in what are also bad promotions, marketing and branding into this effort are all wasted too. They are also wasted in a time where it's incredibly important that Yahoo get itself back together.

He's not saying that the logos are the reasons why it's bad. He's just saying that the logos don't make up for a bad product. Further adding that the investment in logos and promotions for a bad product exponentially deepen the wasted effort into a bad product. Even worse, all of these promotions are bad in and of themselves.

This isn't an either-or (that its bad because of promotions or bad because of product) but an all-encompassing poor effort in execution on Yahoo's part. The concluding question is why the hell didn't anyone stop this.

* Made some minor edits to clarify my post.
Nowadays instead of having the sub-systems you are referring to for storing data, many scaled databases use NoSQL and Redis for databasing and caching. The caching is probably the more scalable of the two because caching at any level has to do with usage and not all database data is used. Caching has allowed the most used data to be readily available. The limits of scalability may only require the system you described, but bigger and more complex systems like Twitter and Pinterest have been documented using database scaling via caching with things similar to Redis and Memcache. Keywords for finding more information are "cache/caching".

Problems with the sub-system of databasing are too many transactions (I/O) and the speed of getting the data and acting on it is very inefficient.

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Unlike the Axis page, you don't need to watch anything to find out what the product does.

People watch the Apple ads because they think they're "cool" or "interesting", not because they're trying to find out more about the product.
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Sure, but why isn't it good enough? I don't disagree with you, but I'd have liked to hear your reasoning.
Can you give examples of universities that are doing this?
So make it specific, tell them what to change about the product, especially if you liked certain features. It's really easy to say 'this sucks' but that does not offer an alternative.

And to attack the marketing around the launch is something that shows a lot about yahoo as a company but does not say anything about the product (it could be brilliant, for all I know).

All the really good people left Yahoo! long ago, so that's why there is nobody there with the cojones to say 'No.', or the clout to make it stick.

But in spite of that this product apparently still has some good elements in it and that alone should be cause for surprise. To me that is a positive thing, even if they messed up everything else around it because I had long ago given up on even that being possible.

The rest is just 'business as usual'.
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I'm really tired of dcurtis' blog. Its objective seems to be to be the first to criticize anything and everything. No insight, no critical thought, just hate.

Yes, this thing is kind of dumb and nobody will use it. But why not relax and let time take its course? By Friday afternoon, everyone will be back to forgetting that there is even a company called Yahoo.
The major issue with LXC so far has been that it's not well integrated/easy to use. That's a bit of an understatement.

LXC is to namespaces as "tc" is to traffic shaping.

It should be replaced.
Depends on your userbase. Completely in band normal English command messages probably fits many users' mental model.
How do you know that Yahoo is not full of projects like this and 99% of them are cancelled early? 99% success is pretty good, and letting 1% get some press for a day or so every other year doesn't seem like the worst thing ever.

Oh sorry, the logo is so intrinsically evil that no true Scotsman would ever allow a product with it to be released. Riiight....
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Aside from the NIH'ism which undoubtedly started this, This looks pretty nice and its very well documented.
I found one example

http://www.1semesterstartup.com/
Of course, the Axis Powers were Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Fascist Italy. Plus the site name's black and steel lettering has vaguely foreboding, retro-fascist feel. Or maybe it is a Star Wars Imperial vibe. Either way, just saying that is a little unsettling. It isn't a happy brand.