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I don't like C-like syntax in Unix tools, as the shell isn't C-like, and it's not clear that it's possible to make it C-like without sacrificing writing speed (lots of parentheses are hard to wrangle interactively); and awk is nice and efficient for some things the shell can't easily do, but it's its own world with a different set of variables and overlapping functionality, and you can't easily stick a pipe in the middle of an awk program. My ideal redesign would take the shell, make the syntax for iteration, pattern matching, arrays, etc. much simpler (integrating the functionality of awk), and (most importantly?) unify the ways various commands expect to receive data and take arguments representing parts of that data (fields, lines)... while still being the shell.

Dunno about sed - once I wrote a Brainfuck interpreter in it for fun, but I see it as a Turing tarpit - for things more complicated than "/a/s/a/b/" I prefer awk, though I wish awk had the succinct "s/a/b/", and I wish either of them had a quick way to extract a capture group from a match. (vi was a teenager when I was born, so I personally don't care about adhering to ed.)

I've never tried any APL-like languages and am therefore somewhat scared of them... but most of the programs I write outside of the interactive shell are non-throwaway and/or the kind of glue code that uses lots of random system functions, which decreases the value of extreme terseness. (But I prefer anything over Java and dislike the inflexibility of languages without macros, so perhaps it's only logical for me to go ahead and learn an array language.)
Yeah, people like that exist. I've run into a few that blew up exactly like this, throwing everything they can at me in an endless tirade of e-mails for days, including the nonsense legal threats, and "think of the children" guilt tripping.

It takes very little to set them off -- something as simple as a declined credit card for an advertising purchase has led to multiple accusations of "denying my child food in violation of federal child protection laws". One guy CC'd every e-mail to every United States senator and the FBI.

I just send a polite reply and try to ignore the follow-ups... communicating after there's nothing more to say on the real issue just spurs them on.
if it's like Mathematica vs MATLAB, then it will be much less unpleasant to use. one of the reasons i like Mathematica is the consistent respect for UI/UX
I see, so this isn't just an idea that applies to anarcho-capitalists, it's made by one.
Yahoo! released Axis (with this very dumb mistake) at 5pm PST, and by 9pm PST their public key is posted, with a "I report this but have yet to hear back" note. How, exactly, is this responsible disclosure?
This is why I learned Vim and why I find its theory of interaction superior to other text editors.

Maybe a century down the road we will have vim-customized keyboards. Tangible keyboards will always have a place, I think, because they provide tactile feedback, unlike "pictures under glass" like you get with touch screens.
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HN has been slightly to moderately anti-establishment since day one. The government crackdown on Wikileaks brought this out in certain areas a bit more, but the overall sentiment fluctuates sinusoidally across a fixed range over time.
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Thanks for the feedback. I know that my product is better than my competitors; both from an aesthetic and functional point of view. This is the first "real" website I've started that I've run like a proper business.

My primary concern is that the idea up until now has cost me only a few hundred dollars for registrations as my business partner and I have done the coding and UI ourselves. Obviously the next step is the big jump into marketing which isn't going to be cheap.

I'm happy to spend the money on marketing (paper based primarily), however having someone else enter the market in the same space has made me a little nervous about how this could impact me.

We're actually based in Australia, so our market is much smaller than the US market.
There's actually some interesting stats regarding how much FB gets per user in the US vs other regions. It's much higher in the US, which does indicate growth potential in other areas.

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/03/stats-facebook-made-9-51-in...
If you win a small claims judgement, you have options to pursue collect yourself, like having a lien placed on their house, or having wages garnished. You're right in that it's not like the court will proactively help you collect, but there are tools at your disposal so that a judgement is valuable.
I just signed up for Ranker to figure out the email situation for Maddox.

- They send through mailgun.net.

- Mailgun.net doesn't include list-unsubscribe header, which means that spam reports from Google apps/gmail won't back to the sender.

- If no unsubscribe link is included, then CAN-SPAM is not being followed either.

So if you wanted to unsubscribe from this, the only way to do it is mail the list owner directly (in this case, Nicole).

Suggestions:

- Mailgun needs to implement list-unsubscribe if they want to get back spam reports from ISPs that don't support ARF/JMRP.

- Mailgun should ensure their customers adhere to CAN-SPAM laws, which requires a working "opt-out" link.
Two points:

1. There are lots of digital ad tools that have great ROI. No one clicks on ads....until that one time they do. Critics of digital advertising like to hone in on anecdotal examples of online ads failing to support their points. This blog post is a great example of that.

2. Your second point is why Madison Avenue was so horrified by Google when they started selling ads. Tracking the performance of each individual ad was so scary they couldn't fathom it. Online ads are no worse than offline ads, we're just able to measure online ads in ways that we can't with offline.
He's worth about 26 billion, I'm pretty sure that even if he cashes out 5 billion that is still plenty of incentive to deliver. He's waited 8 years, I don't consider that a "rush" to cash out.
I guess an "Idea" is much more than a website. If you are fully convinced with your idea, and have a in dpeth understanding what needed to be built, I don't think it can ever be replicated in exactly same form as you wished it to be. Just a thought. :)
I definitely agree with you -- but I do think it's a double-edged sword. On one hand a lot of unauthorized content gets posted and people get frustrated because their original content is ripped/duplicated (with other people sometimes taking credit!), but on the other hand, the ease with which people can post stuff also leads to greater exposure.

Any extra steps to post content can mean the difference between something going viral and something remaining unseen in the dark corners of the Internet. I don't know if this is a good comparison, but this reminds me of the piracy study[1] that said piracy was beneficial for sales. These lists are a way of "pirating"/distributing content, though it seems without any real gain to the original creator due to lack of attribution (that's where the comparison definitely breaks down). I suppose the two would be more similar if you could somehow watermark the content to somehow point it back at the creator

Obviously, this method is really annoying for a lot of us, but the fact that it works so well and is generating all that traffic, likens it to all that Viagra spam we get -- people keep clicking!
I don't know if there's any amount of technology that will help people gain common sense

[1] http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-piracy-boosts-music-sales...
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FB has bought itself some more time with this IPO. How much time does $15BB buy? Even if advertising executives and industry analysts give up on FB, FB stil has the cash to sit and wait for their muse to appear (like Google's discovery of ad feeds in search). Given that FB no matter what they do, no matter how much they fail to perform, is now subsidized with $15BB, will they drive the ad market down?
What's the point of exporting it to twitter/facebook?
Measurement adds value, but sometimes the value it adds is that of knowing not to bother using the thing you are measuring any more.
I have no idea if Facebook is valued correctly or not, however I think this misses a vital point. Facebook is not nearly the same as other web ventures. It's ability to target ads seems secondary to this:

From http://www.kenburbary.com/2011/03/facebook-demographics-revi..., slightly out of date, but still useful:

- Average user visits the site 40 times per month
- Average user spends an 23 minutes (23:20 to be precise) on each visit
- Global users 629,982,480 (I believe this has passed 800 million now)

So, on average hundreds of millions of people are spending about 1/2 an hour looking at Facebook.com every day.

As much as their ability to target ads is hyped (or derided), does it really matter? Isn't targeting just a way to charge a premium, or drive click-thru on massive volume?

Facebook isn't competing with other websites for online advertising. It's competing with the entire entertainment sector for all advertising, everywhere. That isn't going to change soon.
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LAUNCH IT! Because if you don't, you just don't know what might have happened. The same thing happened to me one week before I lauched my site. Had two days to get over it. I wish I can get those two days back! You spent all your time working on it and now let the world see it. There are always some people who will try out your product if you think you've built a good one!
Also I would be surprised if oyu could get significant damages from such an individual.... Being awarded them, sure, but collecting them?
Interesting... I was just going through the phase of unsubscribing from all of the legitimate info/news sources I had subscribed to over the years to try to reduce my daily Inbox levels, and it got me to thinking about reversing the tables so I could announce when I _wanted_ to partake and for what reason, and THEN get appropriate emails, links, ads, etc.
This is a dup http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4015954
For front-end dev, absolutely. Back-end is trickier to judge for someone less tech-savvy.
I'm no mental health professional, but I play one on the internet – and that woman sounds like a straight up example of borderline personality disorder with a dash of narcism thrown in.

It's awesome how the internet shortens the distance between you and crazy – reach out and touch someone, indeed.
Well, the best way to take out the garbage is to actually identify one - very first. Good that you have accepted this with complete humility.

Now, think over it, work hard, improve day by day.
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Based off the ads the author cites in the article the issue is the lack of data, not poor targeting by advertisers. For example the author wouldn't see the "Boyfriend Wanted" ad if he listed himself as married in his Facebook profile (Facebook aggressively forbids dating ads targeted towards people who list themselves as married or in a relationship).

All online advertising platforms rely on advertisers to target their ads. If this really is the issue, which I doubt, it applies to the entire advertising industry not just Facebook.
Everything is broken on that page for me, can't watch the videos or download the software.
a root in a namespace is a root in a namespace.
if its a fs namespace, can't chroot up.
if its also a network namespace, can't use network resources that aren't allowed by the namespace. and so on.

but, a regular user can't create a namespace with root in it. that's what's missing for example.

Note that, again, RSBAC does support fully virtual users for example (akin to namespaces for users)
Isn't this the same Michael Wolf that Loeb, the activist hedge fund manager, picked for Yahoo's board? If this is how he feels about businesses driven by online ads I wonder what he thinks of Yahoo's odds.
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I was being a bit cheeky. I agree that HN is different than the some of the blatantly awful aggregation sites. HN uses only headlines, gives attribution, etc. I don't buy the community argument though - lots of sites take linked headlines, snippets and degraded images and package it up with a comment system. Aggregation - community driven, algorithmic, etc. - is still aggregation.
On a site that does not require identity verification to get an account, a "guy" cannot be banned; only an account can. To post on HN in a way that everyone can see, losethos has only to create a new account.
After being frustrated by this we decided to try an IKEA mattress, and it was better than the ones we tried at Sleepy's, and it cost way way less.

The problem is not availability, it's customer education.
I've seen other indications that GoDaddy is a bit heavy-handed, to put it mildly, in responding to DMCA takedown notices. This confirms it. Assuming that the notice was worded properly, they should only have taken down the one specific site that infringed, not all the sites belonging to the same person.
Facebook's advantage over any competitor is that everyone is already on Facebook. I could see early adopters moving to what you're describing, but it would take ages to move the other 90% of the users over. So at least for the next few years, it's unlikely that people will transition en masse to a completely new service.
I've been hoping for such a platform to emerge - it would be better than having a single platform that everyone uses. People could switch between SN providers (like email providers) easily, with migration capabilities offered via APIs, and then there would be room for SNs to compete for fairly and for smaller, better players to emerge more easily.

Please make it happen, someone. No doubt a lot of people dislike being locked into long-term contracts with service providers, be they cellphone, cable, email or social networking services.
Worse if the crazy person is themselves an attorney. She can just file crazy motions all day long and it won't cost her anything.

I think GoDaddy is to blame in this. Taking multiple sites down for one DMCA take down request. And the blogger too seems too happy about taking sites down as he does. He should work harder (at least for GoDaddy sites) to contact the sites directly and get a license fee.

Diplomacy before nuclear war.
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Not only does the logo look like Adobe's, it also looks suspiciously like AXIS Jiu Jitsu's logo (see http://www.axisjj.com/ -- take the central triangle, rotate it left and mirror it on the y-axis.)
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I like how the itunes reviews were clearly written by the marketing department.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yahoo!-axis-a-search-browser/...
>>All the really good people left Yahoo! long ago

You know what, Its always that the 'real' people leave a company in crisis 'long ago'.

There have been many examples when the 'unreal' people manage to turn the company around. Chrysler, IBM, Apple have all seen turn around with such people.
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its a private key btw. wouldn't be any issue if it was a public key.

its not responsible disclosure but then again, everyone could see the key after an hour. it's not like if it was a complex exploit. Its more like if you printed the password to your stuff on a document and told the world to grab a copy. ;-)
Ancient thread is ancient. Still...

I could argue printf("hello world") is a trivial piece of code, and you could argue that no, the libc behind it that runs that code, the terminal, the os, is all a massively non-trivial piece of work.

Triviality in this case is measured by not _what the code achieves_ but by _how much human work_ is required to achieve it.

If one person can write say, 200 lines of lua and make a game, that's great. It's also easy. That means that a _real project_ will have 10 people each writing, say, 200 lines _a day_ on that real, non trivial project.

At _that_ point, complexity become an issue. Testing becomes an issue.

If all you have to worry about is one person hacking away over weekend, go for it~ enjoy~
Apparently many of her sites used that specific photo. Hell, her business page on Facebook still uses it as its cover photo. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Schwager-Consulting-Marketing...
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Whether or not the disclosure is responsible is irrelevant. What's irresponsible is uploading Yahoo's private signing key to the Internet. The author of this article is just warning others so they can uninstall the extension before someone uploads malware and Chrome auto-updates it.
> This rather unimpressive “hello world” was achieved after around fifteen minutes of practice. What would it have been like if I had been put in front of an Endfield keyboard as a small child, instead of a typewriter monstrosity?

As someone who has played piano since he was eight, I can answer that question: you'd still be unusably slow.

This is the terrible secret of the chorded keyboard: it requires that you press multiple keys at once. Any good pianist can tell you that you can make your hand do high-speed delicate work, all over the keyboard, one note at a time, but dense chords cannot be moved through remotely as quickly, unless you're looking to develop carpal tunnnel. It's a misfeature of the mechanics of the human hand.
>> When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." [1]

HN's own style guide has sound advice for how Linus might shorten his posts to under 140 characters.

[1] http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Ethics: +1
This is exactly what expert witnesses are for. They're accredited "experts" in their field who are called to explain technical issues to the judge and jury.

The problem here is that there isn't a "Professional Engineer" license for software/computer engineering(whether or not there should be is a totally different discussion). That makes it really difficult to get expert witnesses who can explain the terminology and give commentary.

CS professors often are called for this role, but there aren't that many of them for all of the cases.
Is a brand new thing with no userbase. Seems an extremely responsible time to disclose this.

As I understand it, responsible disclosure is primarily there to protect the userbase of a piece of software, not the reputation of the producer of that software.

And surely they can't be being stupid enough to be using this same signing key on established products, can they?

On reflection, scrub that last thought.
One might argue the eight years of waiting was simply to get to this point, when income had reached its peak ($1BB), and where FB could IPO and certain parties could extract maximum profit. The "rush" is cashing out just as the company opens its books to the public.

If FB revenues continue to go up, then I'm wrong. But unless Facebook "finds" a novel business model I do not see revenue continuing to climb; I believe we are at the peak, and now begins the descent. If he waited eight years, then why not wait a little longer? I believe there is a reason now was the time. Time will tell.
Out of protest, I downgraded to NCSA Mosaic and tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Not many web pages loaded correctly, but the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time.
Piano keys have centimeters of travel distance. Chorded computer keyboards - not necessarily. One can "cheat" by requiring only the faintest movements from the fingers. The Microwriter arguably does this.

Also: have you ever seen a court stenographer at work? You are simply wrong. (At least, with regards to the limits of what human hands are ultimately capable of.)
Ah, this will probably fail for the same reasons!
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> The most interesting actions come from GoDaddy. If you file a complaint with GoDaddy and they find your complaint has merit, they will completely disable the site until the matter is resolved.

What happens if I forget about the issue and never tell GoDaddy the matter is resolved? Is the site permanently down?
I covered that exact "solution" in my post--the exact one! It blows up when somebody else is using a different tab width than I am. And given that I use soft tabs, it is no faster at all.
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The main problem with top-down programming that I have understood is that it tends to lead to non-DRY code (i.e. functions repeat the same logic and patterns). I have noticed that my code becomes much more DRY with this new approach because it becomes more obvious when I am repeating functionality/patterns and it becomes easier to break such functionality/patterns out to become generalized global functions when appropriate. This is especially true for patterns since local variables are often the main reason for why patterns do not tend to get separated out into new functions.
Google's goal is to make sure you see their ads. To the extent that having compelling free services helps, they're doing compelling free services.

But the goal is user eyeballs, not having compelling free services. So Google is perfectly happy to do other things that help ensure users will use said services.

Nothing wrong with that, by the way.
They gave a pretty good reason for that, case inversion occurs naturally if you have capslock on.

It doesn't make the password any less secure. (It's actually only one other password.)

They also allow you to change the first letter to caps, which accounts for phones that capitalise the first letter of every sentence you type.
But advertisers aren't stupid. There must be a rational reason why they keep paying higher prices for traditional ads.
Considering that in this case the "public end users" are the ones who are most at risk due to this vulnerability, I think its fair game that this be a public disclosure. i.e. people should delete this browser add on (and anything signable with the same key) as its been compromised.
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So... Myspace?
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No, more like anyspace (that supports html and js).
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What I learned from this story: Godaddy will take down your site, without contacting you first, because they get a copyright infringement claim from some random dude on the internet.
Here comes Yahoo's own Web browser -- Axis