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Hi HN,

I've been exploring the concept of using AI to judge online debates as a way to make debate more globally accessible. The core idea is to let users compete in real-time debates on rotating topics, with an AI acting as the judge.

Some key features being considered:

- Multiple battle modes (AI match, friend match, global match)
- Multilingual support for cross-language debates
- Voice and text input options
- Score-based matchmaking
- Custom topic creation

The goal is to extend debate education beyond current limitations of country, region, and socioeconomic class. By supporting multiple languages and enabling location-agnostic debates, such a platform could potentially help more people worldwide develop critical thinking and rhetorical skills.

However, there are certainly valid concerns about using AI judging. The AI would be meant as an accessibility aid and starting point, not an infallible authority. Questions arise around how much value the platform could provide by offering a structured space to practice debating and get feedback, even if the judging is imperfect.

As an HN community with a wealth of expertise, I would greatly value your thoughts and reactions:

- What potential benefits and drawbacks do you see in using AI to judge debates for accessibility?
- What considerations should be kept in mind in designing such a system?
- Are there existing projects or research in this area that could inform the approach?

I'm deeply curious to hear the community's perspective on the intellectual challenges and opportunities associated with this concept. Debating the implications of "AI debate judging" seems quite meta!

Thanks very much for entertaining this topic. I'm looking forward to a thought-provoking discussion and to learning from all of your insights.
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I'm trying to create a Gif image on the https://gifs.com/ site! But no matter how many times I try, it says "Your Gif Could not be created at this time." Why is that?
https://lobste.rs/s/zht9p5/strengths_weaknesses_opportunitie...
Australian lab-grown meat cultured from quail cells hits the market in Singapore
It's obfuscation not a right to keep a secret .. databases such as

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/campaigns/met...

get around such things through the power of cross referencing. Initially with a lot of manual trawling through microfiche records, later with computer assistance and digital records, recently with fully automated approaches.
If Kylie or any other Jenner were a business for sale, the Jenner name (brand) alone carries significant value as an intangible asset.
> If you add a new source file, you must rerun autoreconf to regenerate your Makefile

No you don't: automake generates rules for `Makefile.am -> Makefile.in` (`automake`) and `Makefile.in -> Makefile` (`config.status`). You should just be able to edit `Makefile.am` and run `make`.

> Is it really less effort to write Makefile.am than to write a straight Makefile? Wouldn't that be simpler?

I don't think so. Not if you want to get DESTDIR support right, and proper dependency tracking (dep info as a side-effect of compilation, so you get all the headers and don't slow down one-off builds), and support for all the standard Makefile targets, etc.

As for your "which build tool to actually use?" question, I wrote a longer post about that in the context of bootstrappable software: http://jackkelly.name/blog/archives/2024/04/01/which_build_t...

It really does seem like autotools remain one of the least bad options, but maybe muon (C99!meson) and samurai (C99!ninja) might be a workable option.
autotools matter just as much a the obfuscated bash, the tarball, email-only workflows, it's a symptom. we settle for bad tools out of convenience/necessity (status quo bias, time pressure, perverse incentives - ie. it's a hobby project, free and open source, yet half the world depends on it, so half the world prefers it to remain free even if it remains amateurish).
Your pedantry isn't even correct. Say it with me: "One point two tens of thousands of dead children."
Sure. If you keep pigs (and chickens) then there is essentially zero food waste.
related: https://glicol.org/
I never thought it was magical.

It's also worth appreciating that in the case of the xz project, the CMake flow is secondary other than for Windows. While I have no evidence one way or another, I wonder if the period in the CMake test that disabled Linux Landlock was actually intentional. Since it disabled it for the CMake build and not the autotools build, it seems like it could have been accidental, unless some significant liblzma consumer builds with CMake and would have otherwise had Landlock enabled.
Not Microsoft themselves, but organizations which use Microsoft.
I don't understand your point here. They are targeting militants with the system:

> Formally, the Lavender system is designed to mark by all suspected operatives in the military wings of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), including low-ranking ones, as potential bombing targets.

Obviously any judgement is probabilistic.
Younger people may not remember one of the early alternatives, libiberty (now at least somewhat improved as gnulib), but as an idea it was even worse: if your system doesn't provide a GNU compatible function call, it wrote one that hijacked whatever your system did have. It's still bumbling around there in the internals of gcc, silently patching every system it builds on.
Mostly concur, but I'd downplay the D-K.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-you-know/2020...
Although note that several comments here report situations where truncation doesn't work either. 21st century filesystem formats are a lot more complex than UFS, and with things like snapshotting and journalling there are new ways for a filesystem to deadlock itself.
Why not continue to use rpm/apt for building and packaging? You can reuse these packages in the Dockerfile and the image, but not the other way around.
Not sure what's the point of your last paragraph. Clearly there have been many documented visible "acts of violence" towards the IDF in Gaza. There have also been rockets fired from Gaza into Israel for weeks since Oct 7th and even in recent days. Plenty of "visible" acts of violence. By the way, Hamas also killed Palestinians they suspected of collaborating with Israel during this time.

Hamas Police is Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization (e.g. where I live in Canada). I.e. everyone in Hamas is a terrorist, at least in Canada, the US, the EU, and I'm pretty sure in Israel. They earned that by indiscriminately attacking civilians and according to organizations like Amnesty International committing crimes against humanity.

Soldiers, even if they commit war crimes, are not generally labelled as terrorists. I know sucks to be a terrorist. They fight by different rules so they get different names (they wear uniforms etc.).
I assume this is the same for all NAND? i.e Flash / SD Card and USB Drives ?
> I think Israel has done a much better job over there in terms of minimizing civilian casualties.

I wouldn't give them credit. It's a very different environment and that alone is enough to explain fewer civilian deaths. Even if they cared exactly as much as they do about Gazan civilians they would be killing fewer civilians as a proportion.
> Winning sympathy while losing ground, infrastructure and fighting forces is a terrible trade.

Terrible trade with respect to what objective? Hamas never had the capability to defeat Israel in a conventional war. Their infrastructure and fighting forces were a means to a political and ideological end. They are closer to achieving those ends now than before October 7th.

Israel's high-tech export economy, the US diplomatic shield at the UN, and diplomatic alignment and domestic stability in Egypt and other Arab states are things that Israel needs for its long-term survival, and this war is undermining those things. Israel is in a position of strength now, but there may come a day where one of their neighbors surpasses them economically given significantly larger population sizes. Sort of a China vs Japan situation. That will be the real threat. Hamas is a blip in the bigger picture.

That said, this meme that "you can't defeat Hamas because it's an idea" is definitely false. Hamas are not just an idea, they are a government and a military, and just like with Russia's invasion of Grozny (another immortal "idea"), they can be defeated militarily, at great cost to innocent civilians.
I find that one of the main benefits of a space holding file is that when it's needed, freeing up that space provides a window of time where you can implement a long-term solution (like buying a new drive with quadruple the storage space of the original for the cost of an hour of that employee/machine's time).
I had an external hard drive that I overfilled by accident while making a manual backup of media files, and after that I couldn't even mount the APFS volume. Apparently it's something that can happen.

In the end I was able to mount and rescue the data using https://github.com/libyal/libfsapfs

I followed this guide: https://matt.sh/apfs-object-map-free-recovery
JPL is managed by Caltech even though funding comes from NASA.

But yes, their robots are truly amazing.
Internet is very neutral in the US because major states like NY and CA have legislated strict net neutrality laws, literally making it infeasible and risky for companies to violate it. You don't know whose traffic will pass from which state and which backbone so it will inevitably end up with you violating the laws of these states. How do we know? This is exactly what they say - they WERE going to violate it, but now its too risky with the fines...
Don't remember. I do remember that I didn't get paid.

I was so excited to have a freelance job (don't remember how I got the customer either) that I jumped right into it and worked heads down for a couple weeks. Then when I went to tell the customer that I was done and ready to ship, I couldn't reach him. Finally heard back from him about 6-12 months later and he was surprised that I had been working on it without hearing back from him and that he no longer needed the product.

And that, kids, is how I learned to get at least partial payment upfront.
Now do a cheap f/2.0 24-70 please!
Semi-Presorted post can be acquired pretty easily. Places like Shippo and PirateShip offer it. As long as you put enough money into the postage paid, the post office doesn't really give a shit if it comes out of somewhere weird. There is no requirement that "return address" and "sent from" area are the same so long as they're within the same postal zone.

This is why AMZN packages have a return address in Vegas or similar sometimes.
Codling moths are definitely going to be an issue. When they burrow around in the apple, they allow for rot and the varying amounts and types of mycotoxins.

Definitely not acceptable to drink.
I read some of the dissent document above. While Carr is obviously biased and uses inflammatory language, and makes some illogical arguments, his arguments on the "Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act"[1] are much better-reasoned and appear to come from solid legal standing.

His opinion is that net neutrality isn't a problem. I think that's absolutely incorrect - but I do agree with his opinion that Title II isn't necessarily the right way to solve net neutrality.

The linked dissent below is more worth reading.

[1] https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-398477A3.pdf
Rules make the market. A "free market" without rules is neither free nor a market.
Exactly, the tl;dr is energy storage, but I feel like it's sort of the Amazon approach. There was an interview where they asked Bezos why books as Amazon's first product, and his answer was basically:

"I read internet usage was going up by 2300 percent a year, so I decided to try and find a business that would make sense in that context."

"Cheap and ubiquitous solar power is coming, what products does the world need in that context to move away from extracting fossil fuels?"

Like a lot of things, current technology probably isn't there yet. But philosophically, if you wait for tech to catch up with your vision of the future, you might find yourself behind.
Maybe, but regardless, that shit markets itself. It works.
> I think people argue that without net neutrality, we didn't see much negative impact. Except that it is not always about what is happening, but what could happen. This can be useful if at some point the internet providers started to collude or think about changing the status quo.

This is a very good point - but one that applies equally to the FCC. Per the dissent[1] linked by ChrisArchitect in a sibling thread (which, while written from a rather biased and slightly inflammatory perspective, makes very good arguments), the FCC is not voting to implement net neutrality, but to give itself more power, with the promise of only using it to implement net neutrality - which, as we know from our experiences granting powers to individuals, companies, and government agencies alike, never actually happens.

I believe that net neutrality is something that is 100% good for consumers with no downsides for them, and opposed only by companies that want to charge extra for prioritizing traffic. However, I think we should be very careful about what powers we give to federal agencies to regulate and control private industry.

Targeted regulation is good, wide-ranging powers granted indiscriminately are bad.

[1] https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-401639A1.pdf
This is at least as true in Gaza too is it not? And over a much shorter time frame, with a significantly smaller population.

The expectation is that there are at a minimum 15/20% dead under the bombed and decimated buildings. It could well be much, much higher, even double, or triple is not infeasible, given the large scale untargeted bombing, population dispersement and recognised IDF tactics that don't allow for groups to even consider searching and rescue operations in most cases but leave possible survivors buried under the rubble to die slowly and horribly.

The current numbers are just not even close to verifiable given the circumstances, but are statistically clearly far worse in terms of civilians on all measures.
I tried, accidentally, to over fill the HDD on a Windows Vista machine. Vista popped up a box telling me I couldn't do it. Unfortunately, in my panic, I didn't take a picture of the warning for posterity.
> I'm not a full time content creator so again maybe that factors into the mentality - but I honestly don't understand why so many people seem to believe that their content not doing well by some arbitrary standard means some force is against them

Maybe its because Google started doing this with Eric Schmid saying "Brands is how you solve 'the mess'" and killing smaller sites and sources to prioritize big brands and it never changed since then...
Flat Tire on Your Rental Car
I’ve tried several different systems, nothing really stands out.

That being said, I’m trying to document as much as my life in anticipation of such programs existing in the near future. I’m not going overboard, but for example, I wouldn’t really keep a personal diary, but now I try to jot down something every day, write down my thought processes on things, what actions were done and why.

I’m looking forward to a day where I have an AI assistant (locally hosted and under my control of course) who can help me with decision-making based on my previous actions. Would be neat to compare/contrast how I do things now, compared to the future me.
BeOS is old abandonware, HaikuOS is its successor: https://www.haiku-os.org/
I also got to see his work at the Frye many years ago. It was one of the best exhibits I've seen in Seattle. That was also the era they had R. Crumb retrospective--a real coup for a museum that's free to the public.
I've spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to figure out why Docker refuses to use my cached layers 80-90% of the time, even though every dependency is properly pinned and build commands properly ordered. I said f-it, gave up and replaced pip with uv. It's nowhere near the speed of a cached build but it's a free 3 minutes.
Which country do you mean? Because Israel has easily 10x the body count.
The website you mention was, I believe, Google Foobar. Here's a nice article about it https://www.turing.com/kb/foobar-google-secret-hiring-techni... It was internally called Rabbit Hole. In true killed-by-Google fashion, they killed this recruiting tool too. It was formerly available at https://foobar.withgoogle.com/

They also used to have on-site versions of such programming contests. I've been to the one at their Los Angeles office twice. Very nice memories.
> Now we are in 2024 and what actually happened is no one owns their movie or music libraries anymore... they are all streamed from some remote CDN somewhere, and most content creators get paid a pittance compared to what they did in the old world.

This comment breaks the HN guidelines[1], which state:

> Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Going off from a story about floppy disk production into the unrelated topics content ownership and creator pay is the very definition of a generic tangent, flamebait, and an internet trope. Please don't degrade the quality of HN.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
> ban parental pickup or drop off

Have you never attended a school board meeting? Even if you had a hundred times more influence in this world and spent the rest of your life focused solely on this goal, I wouldn’t wager higher than 50/50 odds for actually implementing this in the typical school district, for more than a few weeks.
Haha, cool to see this on HN.:-)

Yosys and vpr is clearly doing the heavy lifting here...the novelty here is the fact that an FPGA startup is giving public access to the fpga pre production and is opening the bit stream format. This hasn't really been done before.
> You will have noted that not having domestic chip production has fucked Russia, and the restrictions on china are to inhibit pass through and limit what they too can do.

You must have caught up on the Ukraine conflict from the places that have been claiming that the next Wunderwaffe (TM) will surely change the war for 2 years now. Russia is perfectly able to feed its own domestic daily demand on chips and everything else, not only Chinese but even European products are entering Russia through intermediaries still, and their economy doubled its growth. The smoke screen that the corporate media creates on this conflict is much bigger than the one they created on the Iraq war.
there's absolutely nothing wrong with the functionality (it's essential in fact), it's that maybe, maybe, we should purge shell scripts from our hearts. (or at least reserve them for ad-hoc one-off in-situ time-conscious pragmatic programs, instead of letting a billion bash-lines beat its little shell-song behind every .deb,.rpm & etc.)

// and of course 'should' is more like "it would be great if someone would rewrite it in Rust"
ya darknet diaries is very well done
> no equivalent to "doctor-patient privilege" for HR people.

They work more like cops. Or maybe vampires. Never tell them anything that could be used against you. Or let them in your house.
Hard to say without knowing all the facts, but it's quite reasonable to hold those who are accessories to atrocities responsible as well.
A webpage should work pretty well, but a desktop would probably fail miserably.

With that said the library supports adding your own post processing pipeline to group nodes together so it’s totally extensible. Probably similar to what you already have.
Hah, interesting problems but already have my hands+brain full working on problems in my main area of interest.
My work demands that I generate large amounts of data and I don’t know how much I’ll have to generate up-front. So I run out of disk space a lot.

My experience is that Windows and many of its programs will become very unstable with 0 b on the system drive. And about 3 times out of maybe 50, the system also became unbootable. I’ve learned to do whatever I can to free up space before restarting for stability.

The last time I’d regularly run out of space on Win was around Windows 98 times. I never had a problem then. Now in Windows 11 times, it’s a real headache.

Not sure how you’re so lucky.
What benefit is this?

I mean, I love the look of it, but how can it help me from day dot?
> with the push for puberty blockers and cross sex hormones for teenagers

You’re comparing medical treatments provided by doctors with junk food sold freely in supermarkets.
Or someone finding a $.75 accounting error, and uncovering an international East-German hacker ring.
Why would junk food manufacturers be pushing semaglutide?
SSH access is scary of course but lots of the machines involved would probably still be inaccessible in private networks. Other payloads for exfil scare me more.

What freaks me out is the idea of every android on the planet being compromised overnight. Since you can’t effectively opt out of updates these days, and since decompression tools are going to be involved with elevated privileges, it feels like we were pretty close to that kind of worst case
The barbed wire fences were equally built by Israel, are they not? Israel definitely controls that border.

The current geopolitical outcome of Egypt accepting large numbers of Palestinian is that Israel does what it is doing now to Palestine, to Egypt at some point in the future.
Beautiful work, and a great choice of processor to emulate. As I understand it, they also tried to get close to the layout of the actual chip, not just make a functional equivalent circuit.

The next time I have some time, I would love to do a discrete RISC-V, but I know how big a project this sort of thing is.
> The prized reddish-orange “stigmas” stem from the middle of the plant a few weeks after the flower blooms, and they must be harvested at mid-morning, when the flower is fully open to the Sun.

Unrelated but I love that they capitalize “Sun”. Took me down a capitalization rabbit hole, e.g. https://proofed.com/writing-tips/earth-sun-moon-capitalize-c...
I asked for a single, strongest form of your argument. That means an event and a law. You provided a reference to the law. This sounds like you don’t have an argument, just the most generic of sources.
Somewhat related, for those of us who don’t take extensive notes: are there nicely packaged plugins for RAG in email, especially for eg Outlook or Apple Mail?
Human societies driving themselves into death and oblivion predates modern technology. Boom/bust farming/famine cycles, for instance. The collapses weren't "huge swaths of the planet"-wide but that didn't make them any less devastating. Yes, you could have a meaningful life anyway - you could also have a meaningful life today. Don't blame climate stuff for that if you aren't happy!

(Hell, even non-technological animals have gone extinct countless times over the ages.)

The only constant through the ages has been trying to stemp the tide of the larger forces that would destroy your society.
Thank you to everyone who provided me with suggestions to make it better. I got a lot of awesome feedback. and I will build/fix them. you guys are awesome.