(Note: I am a different Human than the one you are replying to - apologies for interjecting.)

> "Physically preventable" is a moving target.

So are rockets and artillery shells, but check this out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome

Humans can be very clever and generous ($60,000 USD per interceptor missile, hoo baby!! Is "democracy" not the greatest thing ever!!!???) when they set their minds to something. Unfortunately, delusion, untruthfulness, deceit, misdirection, etc are also somethings, and apparently very desirable somethings, seemingly irresistible to some.

> The more resources are invested in preventing currently preventable deaths, the more farther away the target moves, because more and more causes of death become preventable.

Something seems off here - when you say "farther away", what is the unit of measure? To make sense (if you can pardon the colloquialism) of this argument, I think it would help if you gave a quantitative example to prove that your fact is actually factual. My intuition is that you may be conflating [1] physical death (concrete) with causes of death (abstract).

> So, this is a false argument.

A problem for you - some of us know of this phenomenon:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_and_indirect_realism

...and not just abstractly. There is a very interesting tangential conversation related to this seemingly [1] minor distinction - perhaps some day (some) Humans will have such conversations.

I suspect this ("this 'is' [1] a false argument") may be another one of those not actually factual facts.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/287539/whats-a-w...

> There's no preventing all preventable deaths.

Here I cannot disagree, because you are necessarily correct. But think about it from this perspective:

a) if preventable death was about to pay a visit to your (or your family's) doorstep, would you like for someone to stop in and stop it?

b) During the COVID pandemic / mass psychological phenomenon [1] a few years back, were you pro-vaxx or anti-vaxx?

> Let me give you a different argument: what would it take to prevent absolutely ALL car-related deaths? Before you answer, be aware that even ambulances that mostly save lives sometimes cause deadly accidents.

I do not know the answer to this question; I would (speculatively) classify it as unknowable.

I might ask you a similar question about children dying globally from malnutrition.

Or, I might also ask you if there are certain meaningfully important conclusions (relevant to the discussion we are having) that necessarily logically follow from this question or my inability to answer it, what your motive is for asking it (assuming you have one [1]), etc.

Or, I might also ask you whether you believe atoms existed before they were discovered to exist.

> How many deaths would be prevented in the long term (like 2000 years, time period about as long as form Roman Empire until today) if we choose to go to space and accept a big increase in death risks for those pioneers, instead of preventing deaths on earth?

Again (imho): unknowable.

Also: I (speculatively) smell misdirection, though I explicitly do not make an accusation of intent [1].

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misdirection_(magic)

> How about this argument: How many improvements in medicine that make those deaths preventable today came from United States, Canada, or were funded by those states? If sailors from the middle ages didn't risk their lives to cross the ocean and discover America, would we have today's medicine, 500 years later? How many lives would have been lost without it?

This is a fine argument - I worry that you might "have us"[1], but I cannot be sure.

How about this argument: is there any necessarily and objectively true reason why the next time there "is" a "pandemic", I shouldn't do the literal opposite of The Expert's advice? Or for that matter, why I should even bother waiting for such an opportunity? After all, "shit happens" as they say.

Or, how about this argument: are we having a fun here today? Are all other Humans on this planet having a fun? Should we care about such things, and if so: why should we care about them?

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[1] https://youtu.be/lnA9DMvHtfI?si=ijz-tpHLuov0vSTT