skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It’s against site guidelines to complain about being downvoted.

So I’ll do it for you, because it’s squarely within site guidelines and norms to defend high-signal comments from getting gang-tackled.

The parent is right, you all know it, and as pernicious and ugly as this side of our business has always been, the stakes are some huge discontinuous amount higher this time.

So downvoters, remember what that button means: it means this is a low-signal or otherwise net-negative value comment on the thread. It explicitly doesn’t mean I disagree.

There’s a disagree button, it’s labeled “reply”. Use it, or get lost.
This is perfect for me! Having a window with a button that I need to click is much worse than just binding a script to a hotkey.
Indeed this is the new formula for "disruptions".

Another take: is real true value creation only possible outside of capitalism? Hence those communist pockets like academia and practices like treating everything as public property are allowed to exist, otherwise there would be no innovation etc just a bunch of companies suing each other?
You might find it helpful to refer to the Copyright Office's Compendium, which covers copyright law specifics in more detail. It's big, but quite approachable.

Chapter 300 covers copyrightability in general: https://copyright.gov/comp3/chap300/ch300-copyrightable-auth...

> 313.4(A): A work that is a mere copy of another work of authorship is not copyrightable. The Office cannot register a work that has been merely copied from another work of authorship without any additional original authorship. [...] Bridgeman Art Library, Ltd. v. Corel Corp., 36 F. Supp. 2d 191, 195 (S.D.N.Y. 1999) ("exact photographic copies of public domain works of art would not be copyrightable under United States law because they are not original").

Chapter 900 covers visual art specifically and goes into more detail on the copyrightability of photographs: https://www.copyright.gov/comp3/chap900/ch900-visual-art.pdf

> 909.3(A): [...] A photograph that is merely a "slavish copy" of a painting, drawing, or other public domain or copyrighted work is not eligible for registration. The registration specialist will refuse a claim if it is clear that the photographer merely used the camera to copy the source work without adding any creative expression to the photo. Similarly, merely scanning and digitizing existing works does not contain a sufficient amount of creativity to warrant copyright protection.
I ordinarily would have said you reinvented Teleport <https://github.com/gravitational/teleport/tree/v14.3.7#readm...> but now that they've gone AGPL with v15 I'm guessing there's a market for MIT licensed stuff, although for sure since Teleport has been around for so long it has encountered more edge cases and undergone more security reviews. I was surprised while digging up the link that Gravatational is still releasing v13 and v14 updates under Apache 2, so maybe even Teleport will continue to have legs for those who cannot deploy AGPL stuff
"There’s one exception, that I know of, where upgrades are talked about from within the language: Erlang/OTP"

Java OSGi. Great tech, didn't take off, probably to complicated with not enough gain.
Like hell it is. What they want their kids learning is irrelevant, it's a travesty of "religious freedom" that we don't require this cult to educate their children to the same uniform standard as every other person in our society.
> This trick only works if you have the power to value stock low, like real low, buy it with your IRA then push it through the roof to get all the tax free profit

What do you mean "the power to value stock low"? The IRS rules require a fair market value. There is no way around this.

What actually happened was that this was an early investment round, where the company had little to no value, so the stock was assigned a nominal value of something like $0.00001/share, which happens with pretty much every startup when it first issues equity.

And what does "then push it through the roof to get all the tax free profits"? You mean grow a successful business? You just need to "push it through"?
We have a couple queries where using the correct index they'll take milliseconds, using the wrong index it'll take minutes - and mysql occasionally enough to be a noticeable load on the database chooses the wrong one and we've specified "USE INDEX" even though I really hate having to do so.
There are a lot of comments saying that the situation is clear-cut and the guy is commiting a crime. But that's BS, this situation isn't a normal situation at all. Also, intent matters. If I delete some old code that I think I no longer need, to free up space or even to get my home directory into an OCD state, I'm not liable for destruction of company property even if I accidentally got rid of something that might have been useful. In fact, it could be argued that when leaving a workplace you should maybe make sure that you don't leave behind any customer data that should be deleted.
https://archive.ph/uG7KA for those who get "Sorry, this content is not available in your region."
The difference is that one is a human and one is a machine. Just because they do something kinda similar it doesn't make them the same.

Selling human organs will never be the same as selling beef liver, while the difference between a human's liver and a cow's is much smaller than the difference between your brain and a A100 tensor core.
no, not hardly what was meant. the failure of a humble brag was tiresome, and quite mainstream.
I still have the Lack end table I bought for $7 20 years ago.
Looks like I wasn't far off:

"Flight attendant hit a seat switch that pushed pilot into controls during flight to New Zealand, industry officials say"

https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/cockpit-mishap-might-h...
Gary Marcus has complained his way into becoming such an authority on AI he's been in front of congress. He's never done anything and regularly contradicts himself ( claims that both they are useless but also so dangerous they should be banned).

The opposite of the type of person we should be supporting in the tech community.
Because humans are entitled to certain rights and privileges that computer systems are not, and coming up with systems that causes profits to be distributed within the top 1% while using the output of people without compensating them is inherently unfair.
ReCAPTCHA Sucks
I can't even solve the damn thing tonight without being constantly told to start over.

It seems the issue is worse if I'm not on a VPN.
It looks like figma mostly just implemented the Instagram sharding paper, and then did the obvious next level of semi-intelligent yet delicate and fragile query routing.

Definitely a technically challenging and overall fun / satisfying engineering exercise!

https://instagram-engineering.com/sharding-ids-at-instagram-...
The article is scant on details, but based on the few data points it throws out and the historic contribution limits, Thiel achieved an average annual return of at least 79% over 22 years. I'm guessing the way he did that is investing tiny amounts of Roth money into very early pre-seed rounds at vanishingly small valuations due to uncertain future prospects, and then making those prospects much more certain by following on with larger taxable investments. Heck if the earlier investment was a senior convertible note, he could probably get his Roth investment back even if the startup ultimately failed down the line.

So no, you're not going to get those kind of gains with real estate. It relies on early stage startups being notoriously hard to value, plus the wealth/connections to make for surefire exits. And if you tried to replicate it at an individual or even familial level, especially repeatedly, those early valuations are going to end up getting challenged. So sure, the same laws apply to everybody and anybody can set up a self-directed IRA. But not everybody can predictably and sustainably achieve such outsized gains with them.
The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth being a federation was hardly a mix. Also, despite the union's somewhat long existence, it was the union's multiculturalism that arguably led to its demise.
> He wasted a fantastic amount of the court’s time and various people’s time and money which they never got back.

Virtually every crime costs other people time and money. We generally draw a line between that and more severe varieties of crime, such as those involving physical violence.
Pg_hint_plan: Force PostgreSQL to execute query plans the way you want
I'm curious about the query and schema that you're using
This thread is rapidly on its way to filling up with grey comments that also have multiple written replies endorsing them (which is a bit of a trend on this topic), can we stop doing this please?

The semantics of the downvote button are pretty clear on this point.
I'm pretty sure you can tell the difference between the two.
This looks really useful. Came across it due to a comment in another submission:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712127
I think your recollection of history is completely off.

By the time Google came on the scene, web crawling was well established. AltaVista and Lycos, among others, were already entrenched search engines.

robots.txt was created by the guy that created the first search engine.
Also Virginia’s VCDPA.
Clickbait BS:

"If approved for use in devices like smartphones, future generations of the battery would ultimately remove the need to ever charge them, company representatives said."

The battery is around a cube centimetre , a microampere is 1 / 1'000'000 of Ampere (A), a smartphone needs between 2 and 3.5 Ah , even a single LED needs milliamperes ( 1 / 1000 of A), you can do the math. Still this crap is reposted again, again and again. At this point I'm sure, it is part of a campaign to deceive investors. Two companies tried to collect funds for this kind of batteries, one simply disappeared, the other is under investigation for fraud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M5MF6KE-jY

Anyway, what is the point of a 50 years battery to put inside devices people throw away after 4-5 years, top ? To produce more nuclear wastes in a world where people can't build nuclear dump sites ? It's hilarious if you think about it: apparently the same people that are against nuclear power plants, a technology able to save the planet reducing the fossil fuels consumption, find acceptable to put a nuclear source near their crouch to avoid phone recharges.
Poor Gary. So useless but yet so loud.
You can't take this as authoritative but my business has a data relationship with Toyota and they have a ton of juicy telemetry data.

Their attorneys are mad protective of the PII they have. Our relationship serves the public interest. We use the data to find people with open recalls where Toyota doesn't know who the current owner is.

I say this to say that we have other OEM relationships that are far more liberal with their encumbered data. This far Toyota seems to be playing it very straight.
We drive a second-hand Toyota that we paid cash for. The previous car we racked up 200,000 miles before deciding to "upgrade." I wear worn out Skechers sneakers that have seen better days. The leather belt that holds up my pants is getting on for 20 years old. The red sweatshirt I am currently wearing is stained with paint and varnish and food, and has at least three holes in it.

I pay, very rarely, for good coffee outside of the home. I prefer the coffee I make at home. It costs me around 8c per cup, 12c if I steam some milk. Some really good beans that cost around $25 a pound. Admittedly the coffee is made on a Jura X8, or a WEGA espresso machine at the RV.

Nobody really comes in our house, so we're not status signalling to anyone other than this casual mention on social media about some stuff. Money is a tool, and deployed properly, can bring a lot of leverage to problems.

You're free to make a judgement, and would probably blow a gasket knowing what I dropped on three office chairs, but at the end of the day, I used the tools I have at my disposal.
Sorry, but GP is begging the question. Whether or not training AI on copyrighted material constitutes theft is not a settled question you can simply assume and move on from.
I wrote a script a while back gluing wofi (for dispatching several screenshot related tasks), grim, and tesseract together.

https://robbyzambito.me/posts/tips-and-tricks-for-taking-scr...
I struggle with Gary's posts due to how effortlessly he shifts from criticizing LLMs as garbage to simultaneously asserting they pose an existential threat to humanity. An intellectually honest analysis should recognize the contradiction inherent in these positions.
Could be as an engineering degree the alternative, non-CS engineering roles pay a bit more. So maybe a higher floor rather than a higher ceiling.
Cool, that looks super useful. Hadn't come across it before. :)

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Just did a HN submission for it (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712211) now too.
We need to raise the living wage, and the living standard of our people. But that's a separate discussion. The couch was not 10% of my gross annual income.
DNS Nameserver Performance Benchmark
OpenAI is drowning in money. They don't need to steal squat; they need to start paying creators. Of the examples you gave Spotify is the most relevant, so let's talk about that. Spotify has not been good for musicians, unfortunately. Some say that musicians need to perform live, and Spotify gives them visibility. But the visual artists that OpenAI is disempowering don't even have the option of touring. Their only means of making money is being eviscerated.
Don't forget people modding their trucks to roll coal.

I guess the liberal equivalent is driving a Prius or something. Both sides, right..?
It's more likely it'll work out like how a situation recently worked out at my employer. We had an employee that was too impatient to set up an internal AWS resource using the more time-consuming channels, so he set it up in our hack-stuff AWS account under his own user account. Our teams found it useful, and began to rely on it. He got laid off. Ops deleted all his user-related stuff, including accidentally deleting the tech he wrote that we found useful. They were unable to restore it, and it broke our CI/CD and caused a bunch of problems.

So yeah, if you want to delete something that you voluntarily wrote, all you have to do is wait.
The edit window is actually less than that, around 2 hours.
It is similar. hence the timing of the plug, probably :)
Personally, I don't see this situation as being that different than how people might make jigs, modify tools, make checklists, etc. to make their job easier/more efficient/safer.

Live and let live, knowing that you were intelligent enough to solve a problem where others couldn't. That's a skill that is transferrable and that can't be destroyed.
When we use gen-AI, the provider makes a few cents, and users get to set the prompt and use the outputs. So benefits go to the prompter more than the provider. It's like buying pills - yes, the drug manufacturer makes a profit, but the patient might save her health - a much larger benefit.

Gen-AI is an empowering technology for the masses and easy to run locally. And the providers are in a race to the bottom on pricing.
I miss when such discussion happened in Github issues
Liters to gallons, just from the tiptop of my head?
The portions of work used by Google (their regular search, and not SGE) are only small snippets and cannot be considered as substitutes for the original work, and Google adds value in the form of a search engine, where quoting some portion of the article is an essential functionality to prove the relevance of the search result. Further, this usage also benefits the author of the article in the form of website visits as the quoted text isn’t a substitute for the article, as mentioned above (and people disagreeing with this, such as news companies, often find out what happens when they lose search traffic due to link tax legislation.)

On the other hand, AI models directly derive their value from the training data, and to a large extent, produces works that are a substitute for the original works.
Yup, used a nice EXPLAIN GUI tool as well to try and help.
OK, now you're backpedaling and muddying the waters. Language and customs are the most prominent aspects of a cultural identity.

English is spoken pretty much everywhere. What's your point?
New York Times now requires login to see Wordle stats
most software available is not open source. Any app you download from the iOS App Store might not even match what an entity claims to be its open source repository. Any app or service with a backend of any sort that you don’t host is not auditable by you.

Self hosting is fantastic, but it is 100% not common and especially not something most people are interested in setting up. So your framing that this is objectively terrible either applies to nearly the entire software industry or isn’t a fair framing.
Humans learn and synthesize; machines often compress and reproduce.

With every new technology, there needs to be legislation and judicial rulings to determine the exact definition of things so that the best people can offer you is speculation or their interpretation. The quality of those interpretations will vary by person; I suspect most will be relatively uninformed.

One important factor to consider is the terms of use of the websites from which the data is obtained. For example, YouTube's terms clearly state that content may only be used for personal, non-commercial purposes.

Additionally, the current generation of models does not derive core aspects of knowledge or build world models; instead, they compress vast amounts of data and use that information to generate content. This process likely involves storing copyrighted information, which may violate copyright law.
The 3D Filament Tier List: Which Spools Rule? [video]
I plan to.
It's not explicitly written, but it's a pretty unavoidable conclusion.

As far as the verbiage goes -- "doesn't exhaust" means "uses less than the full amount available". Given that "total CPU time" isn't something you can run out of, "doesn't exhaust CPU" can only mean "uses less CPU than is currently available", i.e. "utilizes < 100% of the CPU", i.e. throttling.

As a practical matter, pretty much ~no user wants to kill a program after N seconds, and ~no program can limit itself to N seconds of work, either. People just want their CPU to have bandwidth to do other work, avoid heating up, etc. So unless you have a strong reason to believe otherwise, it's fair to assume people want to limit CPU utilization, not total CPU time.
Companies don't make things. People make things.
The odds that not commenting on some widely known thing will 'keep it a secret' are pretty low. It's been posted here for instance: https://visitbend.com/journal/stargazing-in-bend-oregon/
It's unfortunate that this is annoying to read with having to expand each entry and then the content popping back up to the top. Annoying enough that I lost interest in reading it. YMMV.
The original decentralized social network. Still works great today - I really like NetNewsWire as a reader, it has good read state sync between macOS and iOS.
Of course, I've been reading HN for years, and "street" + "road" isn't a particularly challenging portmanteau anyway.
Checklists are a good example. If you made checklists and shared them to improve efficiency, would it be tort to take every single copy of that checklist just before you leave the company? Probably
Isn’t that just the average though?

I’ve met plenty of wickedly level-headed 15 year olds and a whole lot of irresponsible 30 year olds.

The variation is such to an extreme level too.
He didn’t, you just accidentally doxed yourself.
People hate the pharma industry but at least some of them perform their own research, and thus are, at least from a moral standpoint, more entitled to make a profit than the genAI companies where the value primarily comes from the training data.

(Whether they should be able to hike drug prices by 100% overnight or sell drugs with insane markups is a separate question.)
> “Duty, Honor, Country” has been the motto of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point since 1898"

> "the school’s “Duty, Honor, Country,” motto first made its way into that mission statement in 1998."

If they dropped the motto after a century+ that'd be a bit strange, but this is just the late-90s era mission statement that presumably no one has ever paid any attention to. But you know, got to feed the internet anger machine.
I wonder if there are any actual legal liabilities opened up by companies for touting "ownership this, ownership that" regarding engineers owning their code, when they obviously don't actually want that.
> I'm not a proponent of single payer because I don't think it addresses the root problem of the absolutely broken anti-patient incentives of a system that has long ago been destroyed by bureaucracy. But I'm not an opponent of single payer either - I just don't think it's the panacea people think it is.

I totally agree. Payment isn’t the problem.

But I’ve had similar experiences with doctors in European and ex-European nations.

If I could make one change to the healthcare system, it would be a universal healthcare records system.

It’s nuts this is treated like it’s proprietary data.
amazing team, but the author doesn't seem to understand the details
No, but if they express interest I will try to help them.
This is indeed not a settled question, but my point is that the answer doesn't really matter, either way. This appears to be how the world works: focus on the product, don't get all caught up in "silly" legal technicalities, and this is how fortunes are made.

Regarding the argument, I have seen both sides argued well. The best argument that I have seen for OpenAI being at fault is in cases where gen AI outputs exact copies of copyrighted work, be they visual or text. Dall-E and GPT both need to have serious guardrails added to prevent this, as is shown by the leaked system prompts. If you can jailbrean an LLM, it happily provides the user with exact copies of copyrighted work, in some cases.
> They won’t put starship into orbit until they can test relight.

Why can't they test relight? Also, they are already filing paperwork for IFT-4:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=cu...

"Application includes a sub-orbital first stage booster and an orbital second stage"
The legal semantics are probably on their way to the Supreme Court.

The ethical debate had settled into a soft consensus that this sort of thing was icky at best on topics ranging from FB leveraging the Harvard facebooks to Uber ignoring medallion laws to Google scanning all those books to AMP cutting the publisher out of the loop to Amazon eating the OSHA fines rather than give the workers bathroom breaks to FB/Google paying the fines and laughing over EU regulations (which in fairness they seemed to have backed down on), to currently Apple trying to malicious compliance the DMA gatekeeper regulations.

Some of this stuff has been litigated, some not, all of it is cringe-worthy, this is a new low.

The parent cited germane examples from the list. That adds to the discussion.

Folks are free to do the moderate effort thing and write a dissenting reply, they’re not supposed to do the lazy thing and grey out something they spinal-reflex don’t like.

You took the time to write a reply, so even though I think you’re wrong, I applaud you taking the time to state a position.
Oh that’s unfortunate, thanks for explaining it. Postgres has been in my list to check out but haven’t done any personal projects that I’d need it for… yet
I suggest a title update to “The J. Paul Getty Museum …” to the OP if they read this
This is, and I cannot overstate this, one of the most ridiculous, tech bro statements I've read on here in a while.