skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I was recently surprised to learn that Grupo Modelo (the beer group that makes Corona) is actually owned by a Belgian corp.
Robots of Prediction, Predictions of Robots
We might need a Dyson sphere around the sun to support AI porn. And everyone thought EVs would bring our grids down.
Since it's a personal anecdote from a biased source, I'd say it's probably not reputable.
So, is this extinction or not?

> We will be the first species ever to design our own descendants. My guess is that we can either be the biological bootloader for digital intelligence and then fade into an evolutionary tree branch, or we can figure out what a successful merge looks like. - Sam Altman (https://blog.samaltman.com/the-merge)

I would say it is.
Also when management sees what should be a POC or research as a deliverable they start promising to higher ups and other teams. I’ve developed the habit of doing most of my POC work behind closed doors and telling no one. If it works great, I can release it. If it doesn’t, I can kill it and move on without having to eat crow, or get told I need to figure out a way to make it work after I’ve seen it’s not wise to continue.
The hardest part is the AGI. People could easily sell their souls to the AGI devil to get knowledge and power, since if it truly is AGI, it should be able to make ideas compelling.
https://github.com/Barabasi-Lab/GroceryDB

> we introduce GroceryDB, a database with over 50,000 food items sold by Walmart, Target, and Wholefoods, unveiling the degree of processing characterizing each food. GroceryDB indicates that 73% of the US food supply is ultra-processed, and on average ultra-processed foods are 52% cheaper than minimally-processed alternatives. We find that the nutritional choices of the consumers, translated as the degree of food processing, strongly depend on the food categories and grocery stores. We show that there is no single nutrient or ingredient "bio-marker" for ultra-processed food, allowing us to quantify the individual contribution of over 1,000 ingredients to ultra-processing. GroceryDB and the associated https://www.TrueFood.tech website make this information available, aiming to simultaneously empower consumers to make healthy food choices, and aid policy makers to reform the food supply.

Machine Learning Prediction of Food Processing (2021), https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.22.21257615

GroceryDB: Prevalence of Processed Food in Grocery Stores (2022), https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.04.23.22274217
I see really insane outliers on some tests, some of the time, and this seems to kill the score on my platform (Firefox 122 on Linux x86_64).

As an example "NewsSite-Next" has 8 out of 9 repetitions between 215 and 236 ms, but 1 out of 9 (iteration 5) is 1884 ms. This is such a radical outlier I have trouble believing it could be a browser bug. Visually, the interface seems to get "hung" when switching between tests sometimes. I don't have a great explanation for that.

This specific issue in this case in with NewsSite-Next/NavigateToUS which reports a 144.5% variance as a result of this one outlier.

I see several others like this in the results, although none quite as extreme.
Almost all packages depend on the GIL (at least at first).

They assume they can "take the GIL", and then go and look at the various Python datastructures you passed them without worrying about them changing as they are being read.

The later, when writing out their answer (which might involve editing something they were given), they can assume they are not changing. For example, you could write code which extends the length of a list to 100, then fill in all the members, not worrying half way through your loop another thread shrinks the list back down.
This has nothing to do with root zones. The root zones tell a resolver where to send the next query to find .org domains, for example. They don’t know about your zone, nor should they.

> pdns196.ultradns.org as an authoritative NS for my zones

Okay, sounds like what most registrars can do. (Although Cloudflare seems to have very odd concepts of what DNS means…)

> but if I rack mount a server and expose DNS using one of my domains

I can’t parse this. Are you saying you have a server with a fixed IP address and it’s running an authoritative DNS server for one of your domains?

> people will only learn about it when they query my NS records from other DNS servers that are already defined such as ultradns, google, etc...

This almost sounds like common recursive resolvers like 8.8.8.8 can find you, which is what you would expect.

> because they already queried NS from pdns196

Queried NS for what domain?

> meaning to your point that one I just provisioned will lack glue records in the root DNS servers.

Of course it lacks glue records in the root servers. It’s the servers for the level in which you are registered that should have the records.

Maybe post the output from dig +trace [domain] and explain how the output differs from what you expect?
Two likely scenarios:

1. Bad people will use powerful models to do bad things.

2. Many jobs will be automated, and many people will get laid off.
Yeah, especially after a few years. Perhaps there is a way to get it to charge and discharge reccurringly, but that would probably take some extra hardware.
So what's being done about it? MS-13's area is known and the national guard hasn't already cleaned them out?
Yes, let's go with the random layperson knowledge of an HN commenter compared to the people smart enough to actually build all the AGI tech. 50/50 coin toss, I'm sure.

Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO, builder of Claude 3 Opus): "My chance that something goes, you know, really catastrophically wrong on the scale of human civilization, might be between 10 - 25%"
It's certainly quite hard to see things when you close your eyes. You intentionally ignored the lists of movies I referenced to try to find one you could spin into being 'not so bad.' And even in your cherry picked sample, there's still a decline - substantially more so when once one factors in your quite creative counting.

Modern Hollywood has always found itself in ruts, as efforts at stable revenue generation gradually give way to creative decline. For instance in the 90s every film was a disaster film of ever deteriorating quality, but they eventually managed to pull themselves out of it before the decline hit too hard. But this rut they're stuck in today seems like it's become inextricable and will be their final resting place, until we gradually see China become the new Hollywood. Incidentally one of the 2 novel top grossing 'Hollywood' films of 2023 you referenced was Chinese! All we have left is Christopher Nolan, one of the few individuals in Hollywood still putting out decent films.
Ye I guess that's a good point! Sadly some people I chatted to don't really like this, since it constrains and confuses the finetuning aspect of Gemma - ie if we finetune on top of it, then Gemma v2 is released, do we have to do another finetune on top of the latest release?

I guess it's ye, quite unenforceable
Luxury taxes are a thing in China. I think we used to have something like that on cars in the states, but they disappeared at some time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_tax#:~:text=United%20St....

10% from 1991 to 2002 it seems.
What's the best example of this format used for complex docs, has anyone implemented their OpenDocument replacement idea?
My family's Apple //e monitor has always emitted a high pitched whine, since I was a kid. (I can't hear it anymore but my niece tells me otherwise.) What worked for us has always been to wedge a folded up piece of paper underneath the bezel of the screen. Don't know why this stopped the sound but it does.
Its not the MBA, its the background of those calling the shots.

Having people who were purely finance/marketing/business people be in charge of an engineering company is asking for trouble.

So an engineer/STEM works in the industry, then later gets an MBA, that's a different story.

If Boeing just wants to be a marketing/finance company they should fire all their engineers and contract it out to someone who actually cares.

I don't think this should be all that controversial. People with a medical background should run hospitals/clincs, people from creative backgrounds should run media companies, people with finance backgrounds should run finance companies etc.

Of course, you need to know some finance/marketing/management to get that high up the corporate ladder. The problem is the thinking that those types know how to run every business, just because of their 'Wharton/Harvard/etc. MBA
> Whenever I try and do these things myself it works for a few weeks, and then I go back to old habits. I’m done trying the same thing over and over, and then failing.

Every time I fail like this, it's because I tried to do too much too fast and it wasn't sustainable. If it's not sustainable, it's inevitable that you'll quit.

For me it's been a mistake to focus on the goal (i.e. don't focus on "lose 30 pounds"). Instead, establish exercise as a daily habit, regardless of the goal. Set aside the time to do it every day at the same time of day, a sustainable amount of time (not too much!). Ramp up slowly, don't injure yourself, don't get impatient, just do a little every day. Mentally commit to doing it for the rest of your life. Don't think of it as a thing you're doing for some other purpose, just think of it as part of your life that you must do every day.

It took a few years of weekend hikes before I was willing to make a commitment to walk a whole 1 hour every day -- and the only reason I did that was because I was going to do a multi-day high-altitude hike (EBC trek) and I knew from experience that if I didn't train for it then I'd probably not complete it. It was a decade before I moved on to other forms of exercise -- it's a very long process!

Someone else mentioned you should cook all your food. I agree, cooking your own meals is an amazing habit with some key benefits (not just nutrition). It provides instant gratification and also once it's established as a habit then you can use it as an exemplar for how to establish other daily habits.

Edit: By "exemplar" I mean that you need proof to yourself that a small gradual habit will eventually lead to the benefits you want from it. It's not easy to see the worth of delayed gratification that doesn't come to fruition within a few months. It requires "faith". Having gone through the process once will give you the proof you need to have faith that you can do it again.
There's a huge difference here - the GPL does this so that you are unable to revoke from others the rights that you are benefitting from, yourself. You are otherwise allowed to use the software as you see fit and modify it as you wish.

In the case of Llama2, it seems Meta has the right to control whether anyone is allowed to use it, and you have no rights to use it as you see fit.
For dark-net markets, server-side encryption is already seen as a failsafe rather than a feature, and smart users ALWAYS encrypt client side (PGP). That said, for activities like these, smart users are not necessarily the majority...
They did not build a AGI yet so they have build as many AGIs as anyone else and therefore they are also laypersons regarding the effects of AGI on humanity.
if trump can figure it out an AI probably could
I’ve personally never ever considered killing large swathes of ants
I just think it is a little odd that all scenarios involve conflict when a much simpler strategy for an immortal AI is to just sit back and let people do what they do to guarantee an outcome in the AIs favor. Too much intelligence is not the problem we are facing, the real problem is lack of it.
Even worse, some factions literally advocate for killing all humans in the pursuit of a synthetic intelligence, and YC's Garry Tan is advocating for these people!

Beff Jezos (e/acc founder): "e/acc has no particular allegiance to the biological substrate for intelligence and life, in contrast to transhumanism

Parts of e/acc (e.g. Beff) consider ourselves post-humanists; in order to spread to the stars, the light of consciousness/intelligence will have to be transduced to non-biological substrates"

https://beff.substack.com/p/notes-on-eacc-principles-and-ten...
I'm curious: if you hired a contractor to, I dunno, paint your walls, would you accept "I don't know" as a time frame or price quote? If not, what's different about software development that makes "I don't know" a reasonable answer in our profession?
A counter-point that perhaps everyone is taking PQ a bit too seriously [1].

Personally, it seems reasonable to at least spend some effort preparing for it, given the rather long lead time required to develop, study and stress the constructions needed. It might be a long time (if ever) before cryptographically relevant quantum computers show up, but if they do, we'll be glad we had a decade or two to get ready. The alternative of scrambling at the last minute while everything gets cracked seems unenviable.

[1] https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/heffalump_crypto...
> https://www.mindprison.cc/p/the-technological-acceleration-p...

That is a very good and insightful article. One of the biggest issues I have with AI enthusiasts is that they talk about creating these incredible capabilities ... then they imagine the resulting world with them will look like some hackneyed sci-fi work, like Star Wars, whose universe seems like it could be kinda cool to live in until you actually think about it and realize it's all fridge logic and nothing about it actually makes sense (e.g. WWII-style dogfights in the vacuum of space).

The only issue with the article is sometimes it's too optimistic, e.g.

> No one will care about you or what you create as there is nothing you can offer they can’t simply wish for themselves. Life is all about you and the machine, nothing else. We land in a world dominated by techno-dystopian narcissism.

> ...

> Whatever may be the current direction of society under the present technological capabilities, we can only assume AI will accelerate society towards the path we currently are traveling which is toward a techno dystopia of a populace mesmerized by shiny glimmering lights.

I kind of find it hard to believe there would be any stability for any people suck in that state, I think they'd instead be "cleaned up" and disposed of in relatively short order. Those people would be utterly useless to whatever still has power in society, so why service and protect them indefinitely?
Glibc's Rwlock Might Eat All Your CPU
This issue is specific to glibc. Neither musl nor uclibc suffers from it.

It seems that all versions of glibc are affected.
Or none of them because you already had an internal hire ready in the wing anyway.
Not true. Technology depends on semiconductors. That is in two places - Taiwan and netherlands(asml).

The software companies do not mean much without the semiconductors.
Rather quick observation that there’s clear borders at Hollywood, BH, and other affluent areas. Curious what some takeaways are. Gangs exist only where gang members live? No affluent people are in or run gangs? More/more effective policing in affluent areas? Less/less effective policing in less affluent areas?
It’s not like they operate out in the open. Just arresting all young men of color who are hanging out in the neighborhood is bound to rightfully get a beat down by the court.
Sometimes it is not overconfidence but a side-effect of management interference & second-guessing the estimates.

In this case engineers give an estimate of what they think management wants to hear and not the actual time it takes. It happens if they are frequently asked to reduce their estimated time to within management expectations.

To deal with this, you need to bargain with them in the opposite direction to make sure the estimates are realistic.
What do you call something humans built (artificial) that can solve all topics of AP tests (general) with most being 5/5, better than almost all humans (intelligence)?
Awakenings is still fiction, but it's based on real events. Which makes it even more poignant to me.
Let's accept, for the sake of argument, that you are a high-IQ Übermensch.

If you want to communicate with us hopeless blockheads, you may wish to lower the level of your discourse, and write in bite-sized concepts that our mini-minds can grasp.

For someone who doesn't post "regularly," you have commented quite a bit in this thread.
Heh, I had to go off and read some stuff to get my head around what "negative" potential energy would even mean (high school physics was decades ago).

So... the negative is just a convention to represent work done against the "field", and positive is work done by the field? ie more of a vector than actually being negative energy? I think I get that bit now.

So now I'm wondering if that still applies to an expanding universe vs eg a rocket leaving earth. If things aren't moving further apart by work (ie force x distance) being done against their gravitational fields so much as space time expanding, is there an increase in potential energy? And then if objects are moving apart faster than escape velocity, could that still be seen as increasing potential energy?

I think I'm confusing myself further...
I'm living in a house anyway. I'm not paying myself. Appliances last decades. It would cost me money to drive to a restaurant. With rare exceptions (e.g. high end kitchen you don't use much and eating out really cheaply) there's no world where the costs of preparing meals at home are higher than eating out every meal.
Do you shower after arriving at work? Seems like a deal breaker for me where I live, given the weather.
People can (and very readily do) develop metabolic diseases from consuming a poor diet at a normal weight. People develop insulin resistance and become diabetes quite commonly in this circumstance, but they can also develop liver, cardiovascular, and kidney disease. Basically, all of the potentially fatal diseases of excess that you would best avoid.
What that genuinely achieves are:

- Power being consolidated to only some small number of companies that can lobby and spend well. This leads market capture and oligopoly. And bars smaller players from entering the market. This leads to poor conditions for consumers similar to aviation industry, cellular networks and broadband market.

- Innovation stops, and growth stagnates. Consumers and developers are left with poorer and higher paid products. The development of the technology stagnates.

- I guess government will also monitor development of weapons, etc. China, Russia won't have similar restrictions, and will get ahead.
Is AG1 not ultra processed?
This really seem like a weird way to look at it. It's pretty clear that it's not good for you, yet it reads as if you're looking for a loop hole. That's like saying you know heroin can cause problems for a specific segment of the population, yet you're wanting to risk it anyways.

Edit: to be less accusational
IIRC, this was one of the explanations proposed when the existence of a red shift was first noted: that the light is somehow slowly losing its energy over very long distances, becoming “redder” as it did so. It ultimately lost out to the dark energy / space-time expansion theory, although I do not recall why. Presumably there was some observation that precluded “degrading” light from being the sole explanation.
Sam Altman really seems unhinged, or he just says this stuff to be edgy...or both.
That's a nice thought, but if you were the AI, and you'd just seen humans create a superintelligent AI (yourself) with some goal (eg. making paperclips), how long do you expect you can peacefully wait and watch before they make a second immortal AI that only cares about making pencil crayons, who you'll then have to share the Earth's finite resources with for the rest of time? Are there any actions available to you that might lessen the odds of that bad outcome and improve the odds of achieving your own goals? Are there strong reasons not to take those actions?

I agree that we're facing a lack of intelligence; I think if we had more (or perhaps, more wisdom), then we would know we shouldn't be building such things in the first place.
0.1 is early revision, 1.0 is long past that prefect improvement time
If anyone else was willing to blow a whistle, I’d think they’d consider changing their tune.
> Sunk cost fallacy can be a problem if you spent sufficient time breaking down tasks for a big project. You may not want to pivot and re breakdown

Similarly, if you don't plan enough, and get far enough into a small project, you don't change your approach because of the sunk cost fallacy.
Yeah, and i'm sure they had ai in a 3 year span that could create text that could pass touring, as well as audio voice/music and video and photo generators that all could compete with human artists... oh wait...no, maybe this is a bit different than that time. I mean, even self-driving cars, i get the hype - we were supposed to have those by 2017, no? Still this 'feels' different, i can now ask my question of gemini and get follow up answers and it'll google anything that needs google'd, and create reports, etc... and provide data sources that I can verify, etc. AI news hype isn't just coming from one or two different companies, or sectors -- it's proliferating every major company, every major news outlet, maybe researchers were saying stuff like that because they were wowed by the tech of the times, but it wasn't a 'mainstream' collective 'wow' heard around the world.

The current AI trend, has no seeming 'winter' looming, we're only at the 'cusp' of what we can do with these things. Even without full AGI we could probably have a fully automated workforce in 5 years using hacks, and current technology with a bunch of mixture-of-experts type models and scenarios where we have expert ai's deliver results they can be more certain are correct because its their speciality.
No, in an arms race either you win or your laws don't matter.
> AGI escaping a sandbox is truly terrifying.

That's already happened. The AGI's are called corporations. Most governments have failed to regulate corporations successfully, and have been unable to keep them from becoming almost powerful enough to challenge governments.

The accelerationists for corporations were a group of economists, led by Milton Friedman, and a group of business leaders, organized by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. In the 1970s and 1980s, they pushed the ideas that corporations are responsible only to their stockholders, and that government should not interfere with the concentration of corporate power. Those were not mainstream ideas of the 1930s to 1960s. The corporate accelerationists succeeded. That's when corporations escaped the sandbox.

Now that's an "alignment problem".
I would concur: specifically the taxonomy doesn't offer any indication of mechanism, how is the 'processing' negativily affecting my biology? There's nothing in the naming to create a rule from.

Unlike say glycemic index: high glycemic index > releases glucose fast > body can't compensate fast enough > bad (diabetes, poor satiety, etc.) right now it's just processed > ???? > bad (in unspecifiable ways, by unspecifiable means).
Mental workload: how can we prevent our brains from overheating?
Good catch.

It's unskilled. People will still be performing feats of dexterity, strength, courage, and genius in the future. They won't be shoving books into a woodchipper.