skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It's also not just APIs. I would argue more importantly, Apple has cultivated a platform with the most affluent users. Otherwise Spotify wouldn't care if they were on the minority platform in the EU. Apple's argument is the work they have done to get high paying users on the iOS platform is worth something to people who want to sell to that group.
I just asked "can you answer questions without making a web search?" and it replied that it "includes knowledge up to 2021".
What is the value again? Hosting software that can be downloaded?

Apple could just charge for services rendered, ie downloads, rather than a flat fee.
There's a youtuber that makes excellent videos about this topic. Here's a longer one, but the shorter ones covering particular lawsuits are great too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFUdIZnI5o

It doesn't really matter what my or anyone's view on it is, unless they're either a law maker or a judge.

People do not get sued for having abilities. They get sued for publishing copyrighted works. What tools they use to create or publish those works is not relevant.

The only interesting legal question in my opinion is wether the large language model itself can be considered a carrier of copyrighted information, like for example an encrypted DVD would be.

If you can come up with a prompt that itself does not contain substantial copyrighted information, and that prompt leads the model to come up with a substantial amount of copyrighted information, then in my opinion it's no different from an encrypted DVD, and as such would illegal to distribute without licensing. Also I believe it would be illegal to provide access to it over the web like OpenAI does.

IANAL, but I wouldn't hold stock in any company that publishes (access to) models that are easily goaded into producing substantial copyrighted information.
>Most European communication can be severed by turning off WhatsApp servers.

Oh no, what am I gonna do then?! Oh wait, I can just contact people by GSM voice or SMS, or use Signal or Threema the secure Swiss messanging service.

FYI, the US communication can be disrupted too because they're using Nokia-Siemens 5G stations since the US has no local players in this space anymore.

Let's stop being childish, ok? This isn't a CoD lobby for edgy 8 yearolds.
Apps can link to external payment methods only if they pay Apple.

And there's a bunch of bureaucracy. You have to apply to the program beforehand, follow a bunch of guidelines, implement a bunch of hooks in app code and pray they will approve.

See section "Commission, transaction reports, and payments" from: https://developer.apple.com/support/storekit-external-entitl...

> Apple’s commission will be 27% on proceeds you earn from sales (“transactions“) to the user for digital goods or services on your website after a link out (i.e., they tap “Continue” on the system disclosure sheet), provided that the sale was initiated within seven days and the digital goods or services can be used in an app. This includes (a) any applicable taxes and (b) any adjustments for refunds, reversals and chargebacks. For auto-renewing subscriptions, (i) a sale initiated, including with a free trial or offer, within seven days after a link out is a transaction; and (ii) each subsequent auto-renewal after the subscription is initiated is also a transaction.
Shocking that such things still exist in 2024. Even though you can say that this will not hurt the "big companies", I still feel that this is very close to fraud/stealing.
That's a bit over 7.7 billion hogsheads, for reference.
Like the appstore is any better, remember that the vast majority of money made on the appstore is for casino-like apps which I would not be comfortable giving to my parents or my family.
At the end of the 90s, the internet was also not everywhere. Many people had 56k modems, smartphones did not exist ( and mobile phones weren’t exactly ubiquitous) so there was no way out, ie your apps were tied to your operating system, which meant windows to most people.
> Because these vat-grown lumps of neurons don't feel. They are not conscious.

Being conscious is not a prerequisite for them feeling something as far as we know, and you simply don't know that it doesn't feel anything.

I agree that food waste is an issue that requires better education, as does nutrition in general. Then again, nutrition research has been abysmal until only very recently, so people have been getting confusing messages for decades now.
> To offer subscriptions on iOS, Spotify must give away 30% of it's revenue to Apple

Spotify haven't paid revenue to Apple in years. This finding is because Spotify aren't permitted to "[inform] users of payment options outside its App Store" due to Apple's anti-steering rules.
How can C Programs be so Reliable? (2008)
Spotify doesn’t pay Apple anything and yet has a 56% share of the EU market.
I find these kind of arguments to be ridiculous.

Apple risked their resources and created the whole ecosystem before Spotify even existed. It's not like Apple put a gun to the heads of Spotify executives and forced them to use the App Store. It's the executives who reviewed Apple's terms and then decided that investing in Apple's ecosystem would be useful for Spotify.
Apple is a “monopoly” in the EU with less than 40% market share?
If a person is debating a decision, there’s no need to stress out about what advice to give him or her. Forget what you know. And don’t talk about your experience unless the person is specifically asking for it in hoping to learn from you (see #5). The person already knows the answer or the best solution—or at least, has a preference. All you have to do here is just repeat what he’s saying back to him.

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How is this not toxic? If I'm talking to someone I want to know what they think.
VSS was awful if you had a high-latency link to the server. VSS used a very chatty protocol, and was impossibly slow over (say) a transatlantic frame-delay link. I had to update our local copy of the repo overnight; sometimes the update just failed, and my team was dead in the water for several hours.

A local SVN repository worked miles better. But house policy was VSS.
For the first one, a forced release of source code is more important than the damages.

I would also like to see a few AGPL cases to demonstrate its validity.
There was no reasonable alternative to Windows for any consumer. There's a reason that the 90% market share number was for Windows.

Also, you could have developed whatever you wanted, but made an active choice to try to extinguish those applications with OEMs, ISPs, and content providers to squeeze out Netscape. It's truly lost on people today how Bill Gates was an absolute killer back in the day.

> How? Just like Apple, Microsoft was only being mean spirited to SW and HW vendors and competitors, not to consumers.

The consumer experience for iPhone users is much better than that of Windows users back in the day. People were scared of Windows.
Despite having his book, I anticipated this story being about how some aspect of a jewelry store's marketing is hogwash, and there was in fact no discernible difference between their specially-sourced diamonds and any old diamonds dug up from control sites around the globe.
Legislation has always been extremely slow when it concerns major corporations. Partly because there isn’t a great public incentive to really care about Apple vs Spotify, which means there is less political focus and in term less allocated resources. But mostly because EU law is complicated and large companies have a gazillion lawyers to poke at its holes.
Involvement in the political process, i.e. donations to candidates/campaigns and general lobbying spend.
Parent comment used “monopoly on violence” correctly: the government can physically show up to your house and forcibly imprison you or even kill you if you resist hard enough. No one else can (legally).
> (As a side note, I started my professional career as a software developer in 1997, and nope, we did not use source control, not even CVS.

When I started, in 1994 we did use source control. We zipped up our changes and sent them to The Guy Who Merged them into the code-base using a commercial version of emacs, that nobody else in the company used. That's source control, right?
90 minutes is probably still comfortable time for an international flight in the US if you have Pre-Check. I don't like rushing so I'd probably give it a bit more time but usually things go pretty fast.

That said, I agree with the basic point that transatlantic tends to be an all-day thing (or a red-eye) and shaving some hours off the flight itself doesn't really change that. (And even if it made it easier to get to continental Europe on a daytime flight from eastern US, that matters less with modern lie-flat seating.)
So it's still limited to two monitors, but now one of them doesn't necessarily need to be the internal one?
Apple hit with $2B EU fine following Spotify complaint
Not the intended audience I guess. I wonder whether one can use this to learn Forth. The free-to-evaulate Forth SwiftForth has a Starting Forth book. Can there be something like a tutorial like that. Those comments does not run here (and SwiftForth is 32 bit not running on my Mac Arm BookAir 15.

e.g. if you try https://www.forth.com/starting-forth/11-forth-compiler-defin...

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word not found: VARIABLE

word not found: --

word not found: CREATE

word not found: ,

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This is not ANSI Forth? And one cannot just start to use like any Forth?
It's not entirely clear why the power to destroy livelihoods, obtained by monopolistic network effects (ie., racketeering) is substantially different in kind than the power to fine and imprison.

In that, many developers would gladly take a week in prison and a fine, over being banned from the app store; which is, in large effect, banning them from using their (developed, life-time specialised) labour effectively within an economy.

It's weirdness of the rightwing american mentality, especially, that the potential collective physical aggression of the state has a special status in one's oppression (presumably the civil war, etc. plays a large part here).

Since europe's civil wars are long-gone, the most relevant sort of oppression, for most people, is economic and metered out largely by monopolists.
they actually do work, but only under powershell. There's also a tar.exe but I haven't managed to get a valid tarball out of it.
Is there evidence it would prevent spam and fraud? Is there evidence that it would "secure its citizens"?

Also, plenty of people on this forum are not OK with securing IP either, seeing it as a serious impediment to the free flow of ideas and the advancement of human knowledge. Basically the same argument the OP just described.
> Yes Microsoft had a 90% OS market share but it was an open OS running on open HW platform wich had many players

The actual thing that Microsoft got in trouble for was technical and legal restrictions Microsoft put in place, especially on OEM/hardware manufacturers, to prevent prebundling of the paid Netscape product.

This is very similar to how Google lost against Epic on it's "open" Android, while Apple (mostly) won https://www.theverge.com/24003500/epic-v-google-loss-apple-w...

Interestingly enough - the one point Apple lost on in the Epic case is exactly what they're being fined for by the EU.
A classic early example of "Chinese aunties" online - eyes that watch everything and miss nothing would be the women of Bletchley Park during WWII.

Every known move of the Germans logged, every reported move was logged, every transmission (encyrpted or not, cracked or not) was logged. Cross references meta data filing was created on the fly to summarise and condences the known knowns, known unknowns, etc.

It was a master class in traffic analysis .. and with it comes the notion that to make it (in world affairs) you need to "fake it" enough that when you actually do something you have the traffic to hide behind.

I would also add that the largest group of sharp analytical minds that I've lost track off from my years in mathematics has been women ... and for the most part they've not been gravitating to kitchens they've been heading towards the five eyes groups, naval signal intelligence, etc - complex, security related, not overly well paid roles that provide national stability.
If you reproduce those songs and charge a subscription fee for anyone to use them you will be going to court. If you use samples of a song (which I think is much closer to an LLM) you will pay per sample use.

Also, comparing a human to a service that runs on billions of dollars of infrastructure is silly.
IIRC it wasn't just commits. You couldn't diff to previous versions offline either.
Some people will opt to pay instead of move, they can take down the worse apartment listing and relist the one that draws people in to the building, and I’m sure it’s an easy way to pad some average time on the market stat for their listings to make themselves look better to investors and real estate websites.
I like peazip
Seems like it. Which is a huge win in my opinion. To bad the base MacBook Pro M3 14" doesn't have that feature
What's the name of the song?

Edit: CARIBOU - Hello Hammerheads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_VvfPX1Bc
Yeah, Microsoft is just as bad.

Slack and Zoom should have good cases over the Teams bundling tbh.

The "Open"AI investment and sudden shift from a non-profit is crazy too.
"MacBook Air can also run optimized AI models, including large language models (LLMs) and diffusion models for image generation locally with great performance."
We really need a better word than "personality" for non-human character. Or maybe it'd be simpler to extend personhood to suitably individualistic creatures?
The point is that we should be clear about what exactly the issue is. "The sellers are telling each other the prices they accepted" is not the issue, because this is allowed and generally considered conducive to efficient markets (even if pricing info in that market has traditionally been treated as proprietary). There's at least three distinct additional features one could point to, and I'm not sure which (or the conjunction?) is supposed to be crucial:

(1) That sellers are exchanging pricing information among each other without also revealing that info to buyers.

(2) That the shared pricing information is unusually comprehensive.

(3) That sellers are tacitly coordinating through the algorithmically suggested prices.

As far as I can tell, the legal issue is #3, you are (I think) suggesting the important feature is #2, and my tentative opinion is that #1 is probably the most influential in distorting the market to shift surplus from buyers to sellers.
It's not about Apple Music's market share. It's about Apple iPhone market share.
Double images are only present in converted film content, which in the case of PAL is done by speeding it up from 24fps to 25fps, and splitting each frame into two fields. In the case of native PAL video content, each interlaced field shows image data from a different time, so you don't see double images.
My usual experience flying between the UK and Europe and in three cases China was that 2 hours has always been sufficient before departure and that 1 hour is about the limit after landing.
Not terribly relevant is my understanding. Heat death happens when everything is far colder and more spread apart, mostly turned into leftover radiation.

The article mentioned that scientists made predictions about these reactions, but they still predicted heat death, too.
> Apple has argued they do not sell a piece of hardware, but a platform. It includes hardware, software, and a marketplace (like a video game console like others have said).

Can this even be quantifiably measured? Usually when selling something you describe, itemize and bill for it.

The Apple developer agreement offers the developer tools and access to Apple's App Store and related services. The dev's argument is that Apple is forcing them to enter into that contract to distribute apps to iOS users even when they explicitly wish to opt out of using Apple's developer tools and services.
Consumers weren’t Microsoft Windows customers for the most part - OEMs were. OEMs were not free to install any other operating system. Well they were. But they still had to pay for a Windows license even on computers shipped without Windows.

And this article is about the EU where iOS is less than 40% and Apple Music is less than 10%
Apparently one of the issues with VR and “3D movies” is that your eyes expect to be able to focus on anything: but you can’t; only on what the director set everything to focus on.
> They're to dictate which ways the law is to be interpreted and homogenize the decisions by the different lower courts.

FWIW, the U.S. Supreme Court also has this role. People focus more on their constitutional cases because those are the most impactful/famous, but a lot of their workload is just interpreting normal laws, especially ones that have diverged among the various lower courts.
The entire model weight file is a "compiled GPL binary" and its partial outputs would be too. If we would follow GPL precedents, everything that the model generates would be.
> it feels like we’ve given up trying to reach for the space age style future envisaged 70 years ago

We forget now that Concorde was a politically-motivated attempt to demonstrate that the UK and France were still relevant in the aerospace industry and the project itself was plagued with costly development inefficiencies due to the desire to split the work between the UK and French participants. E.g. working in both metric and imperial units. Building parts in multiple factories.

The Soviet equivalent (Tu-144) crashed and burned at the Paris air show and never had any economic justification. The Boeing 2707 was cancelled before it even flew because of cost overruns following the failure of an abortive swing-wing design. Concorde itself only became profitable to operate when the govt wrote off the development costs in 1983 in a deal described as "among the most disastrous conducted by a government minister" [0].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde#British_Airways_buys_...
If anything medical devices, especially implants, should be modifiable. Otherwise you're stuck with an unmaintainable device (possibly in your body) once the manufacturer goes out of business or the support window ends or whatever. Right to repair and all that.

And this is a very real concern. https://spectrum.ieee.org/bionic-eye-obsolete

For external devices breaking some big, visible "last inspected on XX/XX" seal to do so would be acceptable.

For payment terminals you could do the secure boot thing where replacing the manufacturer keys and flashing custom firmware wipes the TPM storage.
Casino apps werent pre-installed. Do you really not remember what Windows computers were like, fresh out of the box, back in the day?

Hardware companies pre-installed any and all sorts of software from vendors. Spyware, adware, gambling games, toolbars, "free" trials to internet services. Computers used to be up to their neck in absolute garbage.
I own an iphone (because google is even worse) but I want to run Firefox
What people always underestimate is the amount of time, and money, it takes to get anything developed, built and certified in aerospace. And that is for even small modifications done on existing design by the major players. Starting from scratch, already a new design is hard enough not to talk about a new company, is even harder. Just timeline wise, realistically you talk about around 5 years for something new, start to finish. That's millions upon millions for existing companies, if everything goes well. And hardly ever goes well, delays and tecjnical issues are common. Again, for proven tech don eby established companies.

Something like a commercial ramjet engine developed by a start-up is not even the same solar system: there we talk, realistically, billions and closer to a decade, if it works technically. And then you need a market for that engine, which means demand (doubtfull, but who knows) and more importantly, an aircraft. And the last bit again is aroubd a decade and another couple of billions.

Engine and aircraft development can, and has, been done in parallel. It still takes longer so, as both development projects depend on each other, the A400M would be a recent example of that approach. If Hermeus doesn't have a development partner for the airframe, realistically, if everything (!) goes well, we talk about at least 15-20 years from now. Not sure if VC funding is the right model for stuff like this.
>Also developers "locking" entire subdirectories in SVN and blocking any others to merge into, bonus point when they forgot it and went on vacation.

Subversion?

I used subversion for an entire decade at one job and never ran into this, in fact, I did not even know it was possible in subversion.

When it happened with VSS before that we just got an admin to unlock the file(s) on the server.

>Merges in SVN and CVS were also very painful to do. After being bitten by it, every single place I worked at had to create protocols and guidelines on how often to merge/reconcile code to not waddle in a eventual merge hell.

I've just never had any issues with merging. shrug.

>VSS, CVS and SVN were ok to use when there were no other choices

I've used all three professionally and VSS never felt "okay" to use, it was very slow, super clunky, and prone to data loss and corruption. I would back up my files before commiting to VSS. You also just simply just can't view history of a folder if it was really big - the operation would just never complete. Basically, using VSS was just terrifying.
They're standard across almost all tech companies. Typically they're constrained to say that "anything you work on that's related to your job belongs to us"
Same with larger people, just inverse. The larger you are, the bigger the chance to become CEO.

Though I think, again, this article confuse correlation with causality.

Playing devils advocate, perhaps obese people have less self esteem and negotiate smaller sallaries?

I'm not saying this is the case, and I think causality is probable, though the article confuses both.
> Apple makes both the hardware and software, it’s their device, hence they can do almost anything they want.

Somehow, that is repeated so often as if it was the truth. Making both HW and SW makes it even worse, not better.
There's a trick you can use there (which works with GFM and with Framework too): wrap a block in four backticks like this:

Here is a mermaid example:
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Copy that into a Markdown file to try it
Apple has a 20 to 30% market share in Europe. All these comparisons apply to the us only ( where, interestingly enough, Apple is not getting fined it would seem ).
I think you agree with your quoted message then? To be more clear:

Spotify haven't paid revenue to Apple in years... because they haven't offered payment from inside the iOS app.
>There was no reasonable alternative to Windows for any consumer.

Didn't stop you from selling your SW for the Windows platform without paying Microsoft a dime or Microsoft having any way to stop you. Look at WinRar or the thousands of other small companies who made a living selling SW for Windows without paying Microsoft a cent.

>The consumer experience for iPhone users is much better than that of Windows users back in the day.

UX is subjective and debatable. And there's a difference between one having poor UX, and one being "mean spirited towards users".
This is not true. The “big investment” was $250 million dollars after Apple had already secured a multi billion dollar loan.

Apple then turned around and used $100 million to buy PowerComputings Mac assets. Apple continued to lose millions after that. The investment did not “save” Apple
Great start. It's about time that Microsoft gets investigated as well.