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>2. It discourages US workers from spending some of their careers overseas, thus reinforcing US cultural insularity and giving competitive disadvantages. Go to any interntional company's office in Singapore, Shanghai, Kuala Lumpur and note that it's filled with Brits, Australians, New Zealanders with very few Americans; this is why.

It's worth pointing out that Singapore and Malaysia are both British Commonwealth countries, which does make it much easier for the Brits, Aussies, and New Zealanders to move to and work at those locations. Shanghai was also one of the major trading ports(along with Hong Kong) for the British with China, so they also have a very long history with the British Empire.
Stallman seems far out to me on some issues but this is one that irks me too. I'm glad he wrote the entry.
One key thing to note is that he's giving up citizenship before the IPO because he's going to be richer after the IPO and the US levies a tax on all your worldwide assets (not just your income) when you give up citizenship.

So if he ever wanted to move overseas to begin with (and avoid being taxed on the US while he lives overseas - a rather obnoxious system from all I hear), now's exactly the time to do it.
And if ever trade with Cuba of many of the countries the US is at war with, you will face criminal charges even long after you have given up your green card.

Hong Kong, Singapore, Switzerland. Get yourself a permanent residency in at least one of those three.
You might enjoy the fantastic book "Emergency" by Neil Strauss. It's non-fiction and deals somewhat with the "5 Flag" theory.
I agree... In one case you're talking about killing someone and taking their organs to give to others and in the other we're talking about disrupting someones email usage to prevent bomb detonation. Can we see the difference here? I still don't see any reason that I would not give up my private information on a server in order to protect our country and thousands of lives... looking up some counter arguments though. I can't think of any good ones off the top of my head.
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Mhhh, don't know when: Haskell

printf "%10.2f" x

(Note the lack of parenthesis or commas)
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Singapore permanent residents are required to do 24 months of military service, and in addition, show up for annual refresher training every year until they turn 40. I'm currently an American expat who has to file a 1040 once a year, and I would gladly continue doing that rather than spend a bunch of my time in the Singaporean military...
That depends on your contacts. I use just Diaspora, and not Facebook or Google+.
The IRS and State Department (who issues Visas) are well aware of the hack you are describing and the system is already setup to prevent people from doing that.

I was an expat for close to 7 years, have friends who renounced and thought long and hard about doing so myself. I can say with great conviction that long term, in my educated opinion, it isn't worth it.
Hi, I'm the author of the post. We use this hack on the bridge of Navy ships. The red density required is pretty significant (the plastic we used was a little thinner than a #2 pencil). We would velcro it over the screen. The velcro leaves a gap which creates a fairly significant light leak around the edges. First iteration, so better, but a long ways to go. Comparing that to Blacktree's nocturne, software is at least a significant part of the solution.
What does any of this have to do with the linked article? Savarin clearly wasn't trapped, he "escaped". He wasn't paying significant tax on overseas income, his wealth was generated inside the USA.

Point #1 seems to be belied by simple observation. My US-based career has been filled with international professionals, virtually all of whom planned on spending their careers here, and almost all of whom have/had or were planning to get US citizenship.

I guess #2 makes sense, though honestly the biggest barrier to US professionals leaving for career opportunities elsewhere is the fact that (almost without exception) the same jobs pay much better here.
So I can kind of guess what the goal of the group is, but could a founding member expand on the cause here?
Kind of casts Michelle Bachmann's recent headlines in a different light.
Wikipedia says his middle initial is 'P', but the USCIS site says a Eduardo Luiz Saverin renounces citizenship. Anyone know which is correct?
It's funny how most comments here are dancing around the issue trying to point out factual errors and counterexamples.

Bottom line: Young adults today have it way worse than their parents.

In most developed countries in the world. How should this issue be dealt with?

In my opinion you can't just call it bad luck, and tell people to deal with it and adapt.

Personally I think the biggest motivation of all is the sense of change for the better, and a future to look forward to. I simply can't accept that my generation got the bad future, and all the good future was used up by our parents.

Looking at my parents generation I think they lived pretty subservient lives, which were also quite stressful, with lots of stress related disease, heart attacks, blood pressure issues etc..

And if I work really hard and study, best case scenario is that I get the same jobs as my parents, only twice the workload and half the pay.
The article doesn't say he's establishing citizenship in Singapore; just residency. He presumably will remain a citizen of Brazil.
> 30 years old. He'll have to do his National Service in the Singaporean army.

No he doesn't. First generation new citizens are exempted. His kids will need to.
There are plenty of good, useful, and interesting places in the world outside of the US.
You're missing the point by focusing too closely on a specific, unrealistic example.

The point is that flipping burgers can't be a path to anywhere because once you graduate college, your debt load is so high that a minimum-wage job can't possibly help you pay it down. Especially if you need to live on that wage, too.

Getting a government job (including something in the Navy or Air Force) is a different matter entirely, due to massive amounts of tax money being poured into the military (which implies massive amounts of tax money not being poured into anything else). It is a world unto itself.
If you don't know how to pronounce something - you can fetch a dictionary and look it up: http://www.howjsay.com
I haven't tried flux on the ipad, but I didn't see anything in flux that even approaches what Nocturne will do.
If you were the FBI, and you had a backdoor already built into the software running on that server, would you really confiscate it and take four days to use it rather than leaving it running and hoping nobody notices you came by to activate it, and/or having it be activated over the network?
It's not going to occur naturally, but you could have a liquid planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_point

Edit: The center of the earth is 350gph and 5430°C water would probably be a liquid at that temperature and pressure but I don't think it's been tested. Still, a smaller planet could be possible and stable on the scale of a few million years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_core
The US has a ton of problems. It's not a great place to live IMHO.
If you read the article he still has to pay the exit tax.
> There is no evidence that these are less maintainable (in general) because of language choices.

I have an example. The Squid proxy code used calling via function pointers everywhere as DIY polymorphism. That made it quite difficult for me (ymmv) to follow the code.

Things like ctags would have worked if they'd used "real" C++ polymorphism.

IMHO. YMMV.
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Would you give up US citizenship for 1 billion (I'm guessing on how much he is saving) in saved taxes?
You can't escape US taxation by giving up citizenship.

He will have to pay the exit tax instituted in the 2008 Heroes Earning Assistance and Relief Tax Act (HEART) on all unrealized gains he has worldwide because his net worth is likely greater than $2 million. I believe it is set at 30%.

As Facebook has announced the strike price, the value of the company and what his tax liability is, already has a very dollar value.

There used to be a ten year shadow for giving up US citizenship where you'd still have to pay US gain taxes for 10 years after you gave it up.

And the federal government has the incentive and the means to collect on someone who is a billionaire.
He wont have to live in Singapore forever but that appears to be his plan at the moment. He's been there for quite awhile and seems to be loving it. It is a great place to be young, rich and good-looking. It's going to get old if he tries doing it for the rest of his life though. 10, 15, 20 years down the road is where that regret will kick in.

Sure there are plenty of other great places to live than the United States - but his career trajectory seems to be in tech. Thats where he is continuing to invest and put his time. All roads in that arena lead to California - a place he just voluntarily gave up the right to ever reside, work and do business in.
Saverin may or may not be a sociopath[1], but Facebook's economic impact isn't evidence of it one way or the other.

1. In the clinical sense it's hardly reasonable to infer that he is; the parent poster was being hyperbolic.
We can't make blanket statements about peoples rights and expect them to be applicable in every situation.

yes you can. that's exactly what a right is. a right is the right to do something even when it seems wrong. you don't need a right to do what seems right.

my favourite quote, ever:

At first blush it may be thought surprising that one should have a right to do that which one ought not. Is it not better to confine rights to that which it is right or at least permissible to do? But to say this is to misunderstand the nature of rights. One needs no right to be entitled to do the right thing. That it is right gives one all the title one needs. But one needs a right to be entitled to do that which one should not. It is an essential element of rights to action that they entitle one to do that which one should not. To say this is not, of course, to say that the purpose or justification of rights of action is to increase wrongdoing. Their purpose is to develop and protect the autonomy of the agent. They entitle him to choose for himself rightly or wrongly. But they cannot do that unless they entitle him to choose wrongly. - Joseph Raz, The Authority of Law (p 266)

rights are very special things - they are used to protect a few essential freedoms that are so important they should be protected whatever else.

rights - real rights - are very powerful things. they're the last defense against tyranny. the absolute last thing you want is some dictator saying "well, times are hard, so you can't have free speech right now". that is why rights are absolute.
It does not discourage US workers from spending some of their careers overseas. Most workers, even if working overseas, don't make enough that they have to pay taxes on foreign earned income. --Between the deduction for money earned overseas, deductions for housing, and other standard deductions, if you earn enough that you're going to get taxed by the US, you earn enough that you might as well pay an accountant to help further reduce your tax burden.

I don't buy #1 either, since most people don't get citizenship in a country unless they plan on settling there.
Generally speaking you aren't renting server space, you're renting server equipment i.e. the rack, hardware, power, networking, so I would imagine that would or at least could be the difference.
For a rich person the costs of moving (and other transaction costs) are far less... arguably if the transaction costs were lower (walk across the border to a waiting job) lots more people would do it at far lower income/tax levels.
Hi, author of the post here. There are plenty of occasions where someone out on point in whatever field of endeavor needs some random nugget of information and a browser is a good way to get it.
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You're getting downvoted because you've just rephrased the "if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear" argument. Here, have a counterargument: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565...;
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Does anybody know if Niépce's home still exists? It would be eversocool to have the same photo taken with a modern DSLR.

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Presumably, he would be paying long-term capital gains this year, which is only 15%. Sure, it's 15% of a lot a money, but it's still only 15%. I guess a big part of the reason to give up citizenship is not the tax, but also the fact that he has strong roots outside the US to being with.
The book says that many 3rd world countries are in a "Malthusian trap" - any increase in income levels results in a population increase that overwhelms the higher income. Bangladesh is a good example.
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It looks like you have to make over $150k/year to have to pay worldwide taxes:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/international/article/0,...

It's not cool on principle, I suppose, but most people find it hard to sympathize with the problems you face when you make more than $150k/year.
Nevermind.

http://www.niepce.com/pagus/pagus-house.html
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Interesting that Saverin only became a US citizen in 1998.
The cutoff is, if I recall correctly, $80K. So it doesn't apply to most workers, only the competent ones.
Answer: walk away from the river.
You're wrong about double-taxation. Most countries have an agreement with US to avoid double-taxation, so in practice you pay the larger of the two - US tax or the tax in the country of residence.

Another thing to note is that if you give up your citizenship you only pay taxes for all gains up to that point, so you actually have a choice - stick the American passport and pay US taxes, or give it up and don't pay US taxes.

I don't like the system either, but it's not THAT bad. Certainly did not deter me from coming here :) and will not deter me if I want to go somewhere else.
Fortunately those agreements are fairly standard between the major rental companies, so the future contracts are not going to change much. You still know general gotcha's while renting a car now.
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It's called Lomography. It's basically a trend that involves shooting photographs using old soviet cameras and expired soviet film:

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Yep.. it's becoming increasingly hard to do any business with overseas banks if you have US Citizenship. Foreign banks don't want the liability.
Assuming it's not ad supported and is just a one time purchase I don't see where your motivation would be in free updates unless it was bringing in enough money for you to be living off of.

I'd keep track of user requests and things you've learned from the application, if you ever have enough to justify a new game put out a sequel or a new version. Until then I'd feel free to work on a new project.
this has got to be one of the most insular things I've seen on hn in a while. sure, the us is a wonderful place in which to "do something with your life"; in fact it's where I've currently chosen to do something with mine, so I'm certainly not bashing it. but the world is full of places in which billions of people are doing fascinating things with their lives; to say that someone who made the considered decision to give up citizenship is going to regret it because only by coming back here can he accomplish stuff is deeply myopic.
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What are the US laws in regard to search and seizure of rented storage facilities? This seems like an interesting point on the continuum between an apartment and a data center rack.
Right to privacy is fundamental in the United States. People should never have to respond to the argument that if they are truly innocent they won't mind some breach.
>Well, technically it's not proper Braille, but i would have taken that as a correct answer.

I just wanted to highlight that even though the candidate/me was aware of the basic concept. The answer just wasn't the exact thing the interviewer was looking for, hence it was wrong according to him.
I've used NLTK (http://www.nltk.org) to do something similar. And there's also http://scikit-learn.org/stable/. Both libraries are for Python.

As far as my experience with NLTK and machine learning in general goes: you'll need to spend a fair bit of time figuring out which features to extract.
Those retail bankers are like store clerks, not paid that well.
I would argue the opposite. To someone with several billion dollars, citizenship probably doesn't matter all that much.

To someone with a couple million dollars, having that U.S. flag on their passport does afford a great deal of freedom and security. But, with several billion, you can pretty much buy all the freedom and security you can get.
Apparently it depends on if you are deemed to have renounced US Citizenship for tax purposes or for some other lawful reason:

"8 USC § 1182:
(E) Former citizens who renounced citizenship to avoid taxation

Any alien who is a former citizen of the United States who officially renounces United States citizenship and who is determined by the Attorney General to have renounced United States citizenship for the purpose of avoiding taxation by the United States is inadmissible."
We have 50 employees in 3 offices - and have found it to be a really useful internal communication tool.

Each person has a 'private' G+ (apps) account; we share stuff, have threaded conversations, etc - it's WAY better than email for a variety of things, and all the conversations remain limited to people from our organization.

It's totally not what G+ was intended for, but it works well.
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I predict the soon-to-be-enacted "International Tax Fairness" law, for which I would say to congress: Whoosh.
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I'm sure it has been discussed elsewhere, but does FB actually earn $5.11 per user? That's amazing to me - I rarely use the site, but even when I am on I don't recall ever clicking an ad. In fact, I don't know many people that have either.
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True. In this case, it's pretty clear, IMHO, but IANAL.
> Firefox start-up time is visible to all users.

Really? Except for OSX users that is. Still, improving startup time is a good thing.
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Does anyone else think that the name "Diaspora" is downright terrible for mass-marketing a new social network? It has a dark connotation for those who know what it means, it's a bizarre word for those who don't, and neither case is particularly "cool", at least to your average joe. And if Diaspora isn't trying to go Facebook-big, what's the point?

All that said, I'm still rooting for their core mission. Social networking deserves to be an open protocol, not a closed service.
Brazilian law says that he should have lost his Brazilian citizenship for voluntarily acquiring the US citizenship (which also requires that you renounce all others).

But I guess with so much cash it won't be a problem.
I think they are. Just not to such a degree that they're willing to walk away from what's currently working for them or put in the extra effort to manually manage privacy settings of every update.

Frankly, when you 'fix' Facebook's privacy issues, much of what people like about it doesn't work anymore.

e.g. People love to look up and keep tabs on old friends and flames on facebook. But you can't really do that with privacy settings that hide location, history and profile pictures by default, nor with 'groups' that allow those old friends/flames to share their updates/pictures only with their current friends/flames.

Higher-privacy is almost self-defeating for a social network with Facebook-style use.

Though it can be pretty key for things like Linked-In, where updates are less frequent, you don't have overlapping levels of formality between 'contacts', privacy is more-valued in that context, etc.
If the topic is cool enough, you'll post it anyway, which would be a win for signal:noise
Right. The data center owner had no obligation to allow the FBI to return the server. [IANAL] This was a convenient choice on their part. Is there any reason why this human rights organization can or should not post a torrent of the server's disk images so that knowledgeable folks can determine what the FBI might have done to the machine?
It's my understanding that there are no "double taxes", only that you still have to go through the tax process for both countries and you deduct your non-US taxes from your US taxes, then pay the difference if the US taxes are greater.
I thought that was only for the children of PRs. First generation immigrant citizens and PR do not have to do military service if their over a certain age. And countries with military service requirements have many ways to get out of it.
If he'd actually continued to live in the US, I might have sympathy for this argument. But he's moved out. The US tax regime where expat US citizens still have to pay full tax to the US (except where there's a tax treaty that limits double taxation) is exceptionally harsh - almost no other countries do that.
So for "collaboration," I'd almost rather see something like Spotfire's publish/view model, where not everyone has edit permissions, but power users can publish their sheets for people to view.

This more closely mirrors the workflow in my office at least, where only a handful of people create reports, but maybe 10-20x the number of people just want to consume it.
Magnetic stripes are the most hilarious thing ever, but still work almost everywhere on the globe.

I am amazed that magnetic stripes are still the norm for credit cards in the US. Europe has managed to move all but completely to chip-based cards, but the US hasn't.

Does the cost of fraud due to magnetic stripes outweigh the cost to upgrade the entire US system, or is the market just too fragmented to coordinate such a transition?
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Just started looking into backbone and I really like it so far, but I really just have one concern related to underscore and it's templates.

On our site we have the option to show results in 50/100/500 amounts, so far from the testing I've done, using underscore to post-render some json data, it seems to be pretty smooth as compared to sending the final HTML which is just dumped in using .html() or something.

However I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with larger data sets like this and using underscores templating and if there are any issues I might expect?

Thanks
I like the way he says "possible network layer".

It's the lack of network transparency which is the problem. No one's complaining about the overhead of it, because Wayland lacks this crucial feature.

Edit: Other features lacking in Wayland: A close button which works, consistent decoration across apps, efficient cut and paste, ... And things which Wayland has that are basically bugs: windows which are rotated at non-90 degree angles.
Thanks. I'll look it over.
And yet there it is on the front page of HN.