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They probably do spend more wisely, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are spending on something they should be. For example in this case buying the cheaper routers would be spending more wisely, but could pretty easily be argued that this isn't something we should be spending money on. Certainly not at the federal level. Why is my tax money in Tennessee being spent on routers in WV?

There are a few components to this particular screw-up. 1 is big government spending (with little oversight) and 2 is one idiot in WV with a big budget who failed miserably at spending it.
IANAL.. mainly depends on your original contract, and any strings attached to your refund.

Get an attorney, who'll probably advise you to seek an out of court settlement, if possible.
The fact you refunded the deposit alone should clear you of any responsibility, both financially and work-wise. Smart move there.

Ultimately this comes down to your contract with them. You did have them agree to a contract detailing everything right??

Although some will say a contract is worth as much as the paper it's written on (or how much one is willing to pay a prosecutor) it's still smart to outline expectations from both sides before beginning work.

I'm curious though -- define "insane amount of money".

Also, what went wrong? Unmet expectations? Better offer come along? Burn out?
talk to a lawyer immediately. May be it is a mistake, may be they are trying to scare you or may be it is real. In any case, get a lawyer's advice before you take any action.
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Interestingly enough - I can see both sides of the argument. When I was building the IT infrastructure for SSN, I ran the company's IT and it's dozen employees on a $75 linksys (and a half-dozen Poweredge Dell Server) for the first 5-6 months. Eventually, we grew to around 20 employees, picked up a data center colo-cabinet for our customer apps and needed a bit more robustness, so I purchased a $300 used Cisco 2621xm, a couple T1 WICs for $500, and ran the company for the next year on that 3 mbit pipe - the company got to around 50 employees before we moved. For the first two years of its life I spent a grand total of $875 on routing hardware and 50 employees were able to get their work done (including code pushes to our data center) over that 3 mbit pipe.

When I handed over network engineering, though, our last purchase order for networking equipment (with around 500 employees) - was north of $500K (including very hefty Cisco Discounts) (This isn't including the Data Center infrastructure - by then we had colo space in three data centers - just the corporate infrastructure for three buildings)

It's hard to explain without living through it - but the decisions that make sense when you are small, and you aren't paying your network engineers $150K/year (fully loaded), and you aren't trying to figure out how to handle pager duty, and warehouse and deal with RMAs, and support various types of hardware, and worry about rotating inventory, and dealing with upgrade cycles, and manage security, and patch levels, and remote administrations - not even considering future feature enhancements and performance (75 mbits sounds great today - but what about the future?) - when you get to scale, the CapEx (the capital cost of the hardware) starts to have fewer consequences on a technology investment (particularly over 10 years) than the other elements. Not to mention that there are also political issues (Layer 8) associated with differing levels of services/features for small population centers versus large population centers.

Yes - this does result in seemingly ludicrous situations like a 4 computer library being run on a ISR capable of running 350 mbits/second without breaking a sweat - but in 5-8 years from now, some technology administrator for the state will take over that infrastructure, and I can guarantee you that they won't be thinking "My God, we're over provisioned on our networking equipment" - but instead, "Thank goodness I have a few more years of runway before we have to replace all this gear."

I realize I haven't fully fleshed out the argument as to why it might make sense to put these hefty branch routers into smaller locales, but hopefully it doesn't sound silly.

Hey - at least they didn't roll out 6509s in all these libraries. Now that would be something I could rant against. :-)
I think Torvalds position in this issue was correct. But I disagree with the description of him being polite. In one of his comments his quote was like, "You are a moron." That's not polite. Granted, he has a well-established style when he goes into rant mode on a certain issue. And Linux is his baby more than anybody else's. And he almost always takes the right side of any issue. So we should all cut him some slack. But he was not polite.

Again, it's Linux. And the issue was over what/whether/how he should accept commits into torvalds/linux on GitHub. Anybody's free to commit anywhere and fork Linux or make custom builds, distros, etc. But if there's one place he has the absolute right to be a tyrant is over torvalds/linux. The fact that he also designed and bootstrapped git for the whole purpose of doing version control The Right Way, based on his needs for Linux development, is just icing on the cake of that argument. But he was not polite.
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Verizon has successfully siphoned a bunch of money from the govt and by extension, taxpayers, yet again.

Anyone familiar with telecom and living in PA, WV, other states that have Verizon as the ILEC, knows this.
Well, right, but that's no justification for repeating the lawyer's work. That's an argument for making your business requirements clear to the lawyer.

It's the same argument for both law and programming. Badly communicated requirements yield bad results.
At least you'd be creating some value with those tax dollars.
What you do now is get a lawyer.

Do not say one more word on the subject. Not in writing, not in public, not even to your friends over beers, until you get a lawyer. Think of it like the Miranda rule -- now that a legal dispute has arisen, anything you say can and will be used by them against you.

What you shouldn't do now is panic. They've sent you a letter demanding a large sum of money? Big deal, anyone can send a letter. It's not unusual for people to try to bully others by having their lawyer draft a letter full of scary-sounding language that, when parsed by a lawyer, actually says nothing. These people hope you will read the letter, panic, and do something stupid like trying to settle with them before talking to a lawyer.

Don't give them what they want. Get a lawyer.
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I can't speak for himself, but BSDs, especially NetBSD and OpenBSD are known for their code quality. Quoting from "What is NetBSD?"[1]: "The basic features of NetBSD are: Code quality and correctness ...".

[1] http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-intro.html

[2] http://corte.si/posts/code/reading-code.html
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This isn't so goofy - it is like the same advice they give to people losing weight, they are allowed to have a pig out day once in a while.
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I don't buy this line of argument regarding app design.

Next time you fire up your image editing program on a PC resize the window to 90%, 70%, 50%, 30%. Try and use your application.

At the smaller windows sizes you just can't. There is simply not enough real estate to accommodate the UI.

Desktop applications have simply assumed you have a certain amount of real estate at some given level of technology. Anything better is usually just gravy since you have everything you need on your screen.

We know simply resizing does not work. Just try an iPhone app on an iPad at 2x.

I'd wager the points where you have to reconsider the UI are much closer together at small sizes. An extra half inch in screen size could allow just one more icon and make your app that little bit nicer to use.

Even if you fix the hardware compatibility problem (they solved it for PCs) it's still going to suck without new ways to design apps.
When you reach 30's, 40's, 50's and after you've seen What Works and What Will Not Work happen over and over again, you just might find yourself turning into that cranky old man too. Also, practices which are acceptable with a single coder or a small number, or on a non-mission critical piece of software may not be acceptable in the other kind of situations. A bit like how having no tests is The Right Thing for a one-off task shell script. Whereas not having any tests will be Dangerously Stupid for say rocket control software. When a developer goes from writing a little me-too CRUD web app to then wanting to commit something into the Linux kernel, somewhere in there you cross that kind of threshold.
Oh, they do this with classical electromagnets and computer vision. Lame.

I thought this was going to be a quantum spin locking demo at large distances (>10cm): http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W...
The question here is why are you so concerned with keeping on good terms with the founders? This is a humongous dick move, and either they're very shady or they are extremely angry at you. Either way I am not clear why you would work with them again.

But as for the deal, I think it's pretty reasonable given that they are exercising their ability to screw you over. Assuming you signed the boilerplate options paperwork everyone uses, you signed a contract that explicitly stated that you get nothing if you are let go before 12 months. They gave you 3.5/11 of what you were supposed to get. That seems pretty reasonable compared to 0, which is what you are entitled to.

Best of luck. Try not to dwell too much on this and I'm sure you'll land on your feet. As for your employer, karma will surely bite them in the ass if they pull stunts like this and screw over employees. Shame on them.
It hardly seems like managing gear would be all that difficult at this kind of margin. Hire someone full-time at 100K annually who manages the systems and upgrades when necessary.
You shouldn't of felt bad about expensing business expenses. If the company pays for it, it's with before-tax money. If you pay for it and doesn't get reimbursed, it's with after-tax money since your an employee. If you felt bad about charging the company, then offer some of your own money in exchange for equity to cover the expenses, especially when a startup is just 3 other people. I think that way it will be still be a pre-tax expense. I'm not a accountant so ask one. If they are not willing to do that when the company is at that stage, then that is a big warning signal.

Since people out of the company can have their stock diluted to nothing, and you are on bad terms with the founders, I would suggest the business expenses you still have records for instead 3.5 months of equity.
Weird; all of the points he brings up lead me to the exact opposite conclusion.
I loved Eve...and hated it too. The idea of free-actions through any space, pirates and what not was awesome. The politics, empire building and something for everyone rule system was great. And the economy was amazing.

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I agree with pretty much everybody in that you should ask for more. I would also work on those expense reports. You can try to have those paid out or use their total value to negotiate a better equity position.

To leave on good terms you might ask that the equity position allow you to claim 'advisor' status. Let them know you will continue to advocate for the company and are more than happy to answer their questions and handle the handover. You might also consider crafting an agreement whereby you receive a revenue share or additional equity for any business you generate for the company.
This is a great thought - when talking about a growing business. Comparing it to a public library in a very small town (just over 6k) doesn't make any sense though. For the money, the library can buy a new router every year for next couple of centuries and keep up with current technology. Or we could have bought them a router and then given them $21,940 for new computers, books, facility upgrades etc.
Direct link to the product: http://createyourproglang.com/

The author also has a live course from time to time covering some of this material and other stuff: http://proglangmasterclass.com/
Bucket system needs into three categories (large, medium, small) and find three routers that best manage those needs. Hire a full-time government worker to facilitate categorization of each installation location and manage the installation. Replace upgrade as needed.
That's a driver; has nothing to do with X itself.

Consider that the nVidia driver works on Solaris, FreeBSD, and Linux. Therefore accelerated X works there as well.
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Okay. Thanks for the downvote, so I'll ask again, "what?". I don't know what you're talking about and have never experienced anything that might fit that description. Can you offer an example.
These routers are pretty good choices for the schools. For the smaller sites it's hard to say without knowing their exact requirements for the future. For example this might be related to your question about the Homeland Security Chief being involved. Libraries are multipurpose buildings. In an emergency they could be used as an emergency response command center. Perhaps the library is used as a polling place and they have specific security requirements. The state may have decided it was in their best interest long term to equip all government buildings with a baseline level of equipment.

I think part of the reaction to this story is people coming to terms with how much real network equipment costs. It's definitely not cheap. You're paying for features, service, long-term support, upgradability, reliability, etc. Some of these routers will probably be in use 15 years from now. I've still got a Cisco 2500 series router chugging away. Next year will be it's 20th birthday. This stuff is built to last.
Sure. My thought is that, if it won't be recognized in court, probably neither will the "I accept" checkbox.
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This got me to wondering, which does HN use and why? Are there any discernible trade-offs of using either one?
> In my experience, of the best ways to get started in design is to replicate other people's designs as perfectly as you can, just to get the hang of designing something good.

In the movie Finding Forrester and aspiring writer is unsure of what to write and has been sitting in front of a typewriter for what seems a few hours.. An experienced one gives him one of his works and tells him to type it. He says sometimes the simple rhythm of typing can get us from page 1 to page 2.

Emulation is wonderful.
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Thank you. Finally some common sense to counter the libertarian anti-government sentiment. Whenever they tell you that government run schools are failing, ask them why the government run schools in other countries are performing so much better. Whenever they say that government can't allocate resources efficiently, point them to the governments that have balanced their budgets. It is possible. You don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The solution to bad government is not to abandon it, but to work ever harder to improve it.

Getting the money / corporate influence out of government would be the place to start.
There's a distinct difference, as far as I know: the C3 solution can do large-scale automated rendering of 3D terrain based on aerial photography, and Google Earth's geomodeling is done by hand. That means that Apple can, effectively, render the entire world in 3D if they choose to, limited only by money and computing resources. Google is limited by manpower.
Actually the developer of two of the top-grossing iOS apps of all of 2011 just sent me photos of their QA testing racks too.

They have an overflowing safe that is no longer able to contain all of the Android devices they QA test with...
> And only Windows and MacOSX support, unlike dropbox's: Windows, MacOSX, Linux, iOS, Android and Blackberry.

Supporting various platforms takes time but it's not that difficult. It's just milestones on a long roadmap that takes time and resources. In the long-term, products compete on many different grounds but cross-platform support is rarely the key.
In other news, JP Morgan just posted a $2 billion loss due to their hedge trading unit. One of the paragons of the capitalist system. Big and old and supposedly "successful" and supposedly run by very smart people who deserve very high pay because what they're doing is very hard and technical, and only they know how to manage resources efficiently, unlike say the government. Let's not even get into the paychecks of all the CEO's, traders, partners, huge sums of money for what in many cases involves just hiring other people and telling them what to do, pointing out the obvious, etc. Meanwhile the little people, the people that do the vast majority of the real and necessary work in our communities --- teachers, doctors, repairmen, cops, firefighters, road crew, waiters, delivery folks, carpenters, electricians, etc. --- get the least amount of pay. Because that's "efficient". If that's an efficient allocation of resources, maybe that's a bad thing.

I think we agree on the idea that government should be small, or at least as small as possible. And we agree on the roles it should play. But I don't buy into the argument that government is inherently bad at allocating resources efficiently and private businesses are inherently good. I've seen way way too many examples that contradict the latter. I think it ultimately comes to individual situations and the choices of individuals, what information is available to them, their goals, where their financial interests pull them.
This is "process" journalism where we figure it out as we go. I do several stories a day and frankly, the economic model that supports tech blogging today does not sustain a content model where I can write one story per day and interview dozens of sources.

What I can do however, is do many stories per day, and consistently talk on background to multiple devs every week about their concerns. QA testing for Android has been an on-and-off concern for years.

Animoca has talked to me about it a couple times over the last 18 months, but this image for whatever reason happened to go viral.

This story hit a chord. I had some sense it would but I couldn't have 100% predicted it.
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> Rule of law makes countries rich. Rule of law foster cooperation and trust in societies. People can trust authorities and each other.

I don't think that part of your thesis is too controversial. The big idea of common law, for example, is that courts try to make their decisions reasonably consistent with previous decisions, not because they think that this will necessarily lead to the best decisions each time, but because this makes the law predictable. Predictable laws are an important part of a good business environment.

(Laws with low overhead are also important, mind you. This is why an AP1000 nuclear power plant made in China costs so much less than one built in the US or Europe, even though it's the same damn plant. The overhead of dealing with the government in a very heavyweight regulatory environment is a huge factor in cost and speed.)
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F.lux has a preference for transition.

True, but as I recall it still behaves oddly in some circumstances.

Change your location to a point two hours to your west?

That's the usual suggestion, but then you have to change it back if you rise early.
These problems with managing at "scale" btw, are one of the reasons why consumerization of IT is so popular. The reality is that individual decisions made at small scale, can sometimes be orders of magnitude more efficient than by the enterprise. Example - Our company doesn't have a policy regarding mobile device OS upgrades - which means they don't have to worry about standardizing on a particular mobile device, or test "authorized apps" (or even have authorized apps) against the OS upgrade, or manage the OS updates, etc... Basically, a few early adopters will do an OTA upgrade, watch it for a few days, and if their device doesn't brick or crash more frequently, and the forums seem to indicate it's a good version - they'll send out a note to an internal alias and everybody else will just upgrade their device. Absolutely zero corporate overhead required.

This is true of all sorts of "edge" infrastructure - Skype clients, IM clients, Laptops, backups (now that we have backblaze/crashplan), etc...

Deploying at scale loses all sorts of that efficiency, and should be reserved for "Core" things like your exchange server, filer, and networking. For everything else - try to empower your users - they'll probably be better at it than you will be doing it centrally.
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The Reddit question wasn't really what I would consider relevant for HN, but I personally found the ethical issues at least a little bit interesting. I commented on it: my thoughts being that he should stay under the radar of management and do side work to earn more money. This is by no means ethical, and I'm assuming a fairly dysfunctional company structure, but in my experience that's the way things work in the real world.
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Hey bhousel, thanks for your detailed answer here. I'll def. get James Aebersold's Vol 21 "Gettin' It Together" and try to get myself together. I'll also check out the local jazz jams around Boston, I went to a blues jam at a Cambridge bar where it was really overwhelming as lots of regular pro's congregated there but I think if I leave my ego at home, I'll go to more jams and play.

Yea also appreciate your tip about not getting bogged down on the technical detail. As a adult music-language learner, I might have a tendency to think in terms of structure to construct musical phrases. Appreciate your advice, I'll explore the avenues you have revealed here and let you know how it goes.
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It seems to work reasonably well. But I don't imagine a lot of resources are dedicated to it.

So how does PG have it set up? How has it changed over time?
I really don't look forward to a future where everyone is some variant of a STEM major. Talk about pedantry and a lack of cultural texture...
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Thinking the exact same thing -- there are plenty of libraries to choose from...