skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think that people here are too pessimistic in general about Windows 8.

Look at the current trends in computing. They're using those trends to influence this release. And I think that a lot of the design decisions (especially ones like "content over chrome" are really damn good).

It's going to be super interesting to see how this thing is received by non-techy people come the holiday season.
1/4 of Google's revenue is a pretty big deal. The author is suggesting that's the worst case scenario for Facebook, that they take over that $10B in revenue from Google. Add that to whatever they can do with Facebook Credits (with acquisitions like Karma), and their future looks bright.
Ok, this is awesome! Now all I need is the Image Gallery search feature and I can delete Google from my bookmarks already.
Zuck seems keen to the Wallstreet fellows on the edge with Facebook's unpredictability.
In what way are they screwing developers? I feel that the three avenues for writing apps (C#/xaml, c++, and html5/js) are actually pretty good for us.
Hard to tell if I'm biased or if this new format is as boring as it seems. Will have to try again tomorrow. Got about 10 minutes in tonight.
It's almost a cliche on the Intarwebs, but it might help you to read some Dawkins, specifically The Selfish Gene.

The progress of a species does not happen for the benefit of individual members, and that's true for us as humans as well. In that sense, as long as someone makes it, we all make it.

(Which is why it bothers me that so much is apparently riding on this one mission. The job of carrying human spaceflight forward is too much responsibility for one man, one company, or even one government, and Musk might do well to remind everyone of that before the launch.)
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You could call a daily Paul Graham quote app "InstaGraham."

I want 1% equity if that idea takes off ;)
You'd think Gruber would have thanked 5by5 in his announcement if it had been a friendly parting of ways. The fact that he didn't is itself a dick move.
Of course they DO NOT owe us an explanation about what happened, but it will be nice to hear something, just because we care about the show.
having 10 anecdotes is not data. and opinion is not data. you do understand that much right. if i were to give you anecdotes, probably i can pull off a hundred of those right of the internet (probably there's a subreddit for that too), arguing the exact opposite.

of all the people saying how they are so pro-evidence are falling back to these one off anecdotes, just upsets me. no you didnot provide evidence, you showed a case.

if a gender has to be given a easier option to be included just because of their gender, what kind of stupid equality is that.
MBA holders really get a hard time. There are so many different types of MBAs. Hard to pigeon hole all of them.

Sure you cannot teach someone to be an entrepreneur, however there are many important disciplines you can gain from studying a business degree. Most executives hold an MBA - although this may be simply to speak-the-speak with others at that level.

Sheryl K. Sandberg (COO of Facebook) holds a MBA. Zuckerberg went to a world renown business school (albeit he dropped out).

Maybe you only need an MBA hire when you have gone public/IPO?
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Facebook sold some new shares to raise money, but previous investors were also selling their shares through the IPO (including some insiders exercising stock options and then selling the exercised shares to cover the taxes). The SEC filings will tell you the grimy details.
I saw the headline and thought it would be about how Morgan Stanley was propping up the Facebook IPO price.
The previous set was 4 books, this one is 5. Its recently been released. So I'm kinda hoping its got fixed OCR.
Memory is cheap. There's probably better things to focus on then squeezing more bits out of the memory usage.
That is possible but extremely unlikely. Companies who spend interesting amounts of money on advertising don't just hand you $100k or something. Instead, they hand you $10k for a month or a quarter and tell you to demonstrate what you can do. You only get more as long as you can show something going up and to the right. So you can certainly get to million dollar accounts but it's going to take at least a year of demonstrating performance and going out and demanding quarterly increases in spend.

Now, to your claim: could fb get $2B in ad spend w/o demonstrating that performance? Sure. It's damn unlikely though because the companies that will eventually spend $1m/year with you don't start there. If your theory is there is super high churn, then 2e9/(10k) = 200k different advertisers spending $10k for a quarter then churning. That seems dubious. Now obviously they make some money from tax, etc, but just look at the rough order of magnitude of new suckers you would have to find every year and estimate whether it's likely.
Hmm... that's an interesting perspective, I'm of the opposite opinion. I do get the sentiment though.

There's a big difference between imagining something might be a great idea because of intuition, A/B testing/market research, even launching and getting engagement but no monetization... vs. getting people to actually put their hard-earned dollars into it in advance of any available product.

To me, there's no stronger 'go' signal one can have. To an investor it takes away all the mystery... do you even need a pitch? The only thing left is whether or not the team can execute on the vision. And hence the value of a great incubator to reduce friction on that end.
Haha, yeah, because the sampling rate is super low, in order to make the data URIs work. Turn on "visual mode" hit 8 or click on the lightning bolt, and you'll see the visual representation of each sound—and you'll see how it breaks because of the sample rate when it starts sounding weird.
Right, but the point here is that we're not just talking about extensions of the system, we're talking about true but unprovable statements—that is, statements that are true in the standard model of arithmetic but not provable in PA (or whatever other arithmetic theory strikes your fancy). This is why Turing looked not at single formal theories but at a hierarchy of consistency extensions of the initial theory. In other words, the game changes from formal provability to informal provability, and from provability relative to a set of axioms to absolute provability. Turing showed (very roughly) that given a tree of consistency extensions (which branches only at limit stages) every Pi_1 sentence was decided at some point a with |a| = ω + 1. Feferman then proved in the 1960s that there is a path through the tree of ordinal notations that decides every Pi_2 sentence. These are completeness results, albeit for progressions of formal systems rather than individual systems. So certainly the puzzle can never be completed within a single formal system, but by restricting to sentences of limited complexity, there is an ordinal-time operation which decides each sentence (obviously there are numerous philosophical problems with this, although I'm afraid my expertise in this area is extremely limited so I can only give a sketch of the issues involved).
Of course. You're right. It's really about announcing the time, energy, sweat, effort, etc. you've put into it - and by announcing it I feel people in a way are celebrating it, that they are proud of it - which they should be.
Oops, yeah, I forgot to mention that. iOS is trouble with html5 audio. I tried making fallback audio files, but that was too slow, so I just deleted them. I should add back some support so it doesn't kill safari.
I am not sure how things like this will change our lives to be honest, I think it is too early to say which will have a bigger impact.

To your latter point, I can understand that most people use social networks to merely chat and browse drunken photos of friends, but that is like saying that all the invention of the telephone did was make it easier to share mindless banter with your friends. There are fringe benefits that arise from these kinds of technologies that could be really impactful. Twitter's use during the Arab Spring comes to mind as the most recent example of this.

I admit that Facebook doesn't provide any great "technological"/scientific achievement, but it does have a strong network effect supporting it; and that is something that can be impactful in a very productive sense.
This is a shame, because I think that Dan Benjamin is a funny guy and good host. It took me a while to realize it. I initially came to 5by5 for Siracusa, Dediu, Gruber and Arment (in that order) but the longer I listen the more I appreciate Dan.

Just last week I was loving how Dan will say something outrageous, framed as a casual, factual statement about the co-host, to elicit a reaction. ("You just sit around in your underwear while you're doing this podcast." - not an actual quote, I'm just characterizing). Of everybody else, Gruber responded with the least appreciation of Dan's humor.

Oh well, maybe the new chemistry will be good too.
Yeah, Chrome is meddlesome. Firefox takes whatever I throw at it, but Chrome sometimes has periodic issues. I actually load the keys slowly in order to decreases the chances of crashing in Chrome.
This acquisition smells more like Yahoo than Google.

I guess Facebook is going to make a bit to consolidate as many services as possible into their social network. I wonder how that's going to impact usability.
Prof. Blank's blog entries aimed at selling his "Startup Manual" are creepy. Framed as stories of walking through the woods with former students it just stinks of cheap, manipulative internet marketing. Is this what he is teaching kids? Then at the end a link to his book on Amazon. Just terrible.

Thanks for lowering the bar, Mr. Blank.

"Where the money is." Indeed. Money that could be invested in more worthwhile research. He's right. Thank God for NIH, NSF and the SBA, because now we have educators giving in to the lure of low brow internet marketing. Sad.
Unsure of the terms of the deal, but maybe this was simply a talent acquisition plus strategic purchase? Maybe the cost wasn't that high. I am sure an offer to work at Facebook and integrate your product into the FB platform has some intangible appeal.
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i think freedom is our fundamental right. but it seems some political parties want that people in India, behave like a Chinese people, where you do not have any right to say anything against govt.its very ridiculous person like some leader is free to move anywhere and they can promote any lady to just full fill one demand of sex.our Leader says that its fundamental right of that person.but,we are not allowed to watch video according to our choice.
I came across the same thing. Ouch!
The flip side of that sentiment is "wait until a bunch of sector-specific ETFs and other mutual funds start buying their stock". You know, QQQ Trust, S&P500 index funds, et cetera.
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Assuming both of those people are 30, one of them can retire comfortably for the rest of his life. The other will likely work for at least another ten years.

How much do you value ten years of your life?
Great acquisition for Facebook. People are wondering what kind of monetization strategies Facebook will use to make them worth their post-IPO valuation, and Karma is now one good example.

People spend a LOT of money on gifts.
Big companies? What big companies? Everybody involved works for himself.
Wait until next week. It'll happen.
Thanks Daniel. The app is great, as we expect from you guys.
According to @muleradio's twitter stream, Gruber approached them. No poaching. Sounds like it was John's idea entirely.
The prospect of that reality is frightening. Facebook is so large now that if it went away the amount of civil discontent would be a point of concern for politicians (primarily if Facebook's disappearance gets pinned on them).
Worse than Daikatana, would be another APB:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APB:_All_Points_Bulletin

Development costs were in excess of $100 million.
Big time pick up for Facebook. If they can manage to bring Facebook Credits mainstream then everyone watch out.
Awesome—I think you've done the first recorded song using my piano!

There's a looper too (that 2nd button, or the 9 key—hold down to start recording, lift up to stop recording and start playback) which can lead to interesting songs.
I'd be really really sad if hypercritical gets cancelled. I hope John Siracusa never leaves 5by5 - Dan Benjamin doesn't contribute that much to the show, but is still a great host.

Hypercritical is excellent.
I gotta say though, kudos to Dan for exercising superior patience throughout
Ugh. What is it about finance that I find so hard to grok... So, essentially they're able to offer more shares than they originally agreed to, correct? Where do those extra shares come from, and how exactly does that help keep the price above water?
here's the exact tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/MuleRadio/statuses/203567508660297728
Agreed on Hypercritical being the stronger show now. It's also something that ages better, so that old episodes are still informative.
Maybe not the best wording on my part. I meant that they're reputable folks all around. There was no reason to speculate negatively about the app and Daniel's explanation above confirms that.
Mark Zuckerberg has never been enrolled in a business school, let alone a "world renowned business school."
The shareholders control the board, and the board controls management. Thus, unhappy shareholders will mean new management.

In FB's case however, Zuck still controls (through proxy) the majority of votes; Zuck cannot be ousted.

There are other problems with a non-performing stock too; employee morale may be (and is increasingly?) tightly related to the share options they own. If management is not performing well and costing their employees money (!) that can ruin morale.

This doesn't just involve Facebook; currently the market is pretty bullish on web companies. It can quickly turn bearish, restricting the capital that currently flows so free.
Okay, what about a TV that can play Angry Birds, take a picture and send it via SMS or email, and let's you surf, chat, share your life, and meet new people.

"Most people in the world don't have any use for a computer"

Wow, so short-sighted I don't even know where to begin. You must not know how deeply mobile technology has penetrated on earth. The fact that phones are now becoming small computers seems to completely escape you.

"And even if they can afford the hardware, who do you suppose is going to pay for the wireless infrastructure, and why?"

3rd world countries have wireless coverage. There are villages in Asia and Africa where a kid comes through on a bike (or horse!) with a car battery to charge people's phones in the slums for around a US penny or thereabouts.
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Looks like FB is on acquisition spree. Instagram, Glancee and now Karma. Just in the space of one month. Are these (Glancee and Karma) people acquisitions?
I'm curious - what does H.N. think about a Masters of Science in a business field (Marketing, Statistics, Accounting, etc.) as opposed to an MBA?
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You guys definitely should have refactored the class prefix and removed the 5by5 assets though, right?
I'm absolutely disgusted right now. I shouldn't feel like it, but I think Gruber has screwed me personally. Shame on him (though I understand that he has a family and needs to make a living), but I just can't imagine how anyone could do it to Dan Benjamin...

I was never a talk show fan and prefer the excellent Hypercritical (with John Siracusa). For those who haven't listened to hypercritical: give it a shot, you won't regret it -- http://5by5.tv/hypercritical
Yes, that's right. It is a Spice plugin (http://duckduckhack.com/#plugin-types) that uses the HNSearch API (http://www.hnsearch.com/api). I'm curious why you don't like it though. The !hn bang still works.
Awkward goodbye from John to Dan on the last show: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2443832/Screenshots/Marker%201.m4a
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about his argument that the GPL is no longer needed. While I'm more sympathetic with BSD licensing now than I was 10 years ago, I do think that the GPL still makes a lot of sense for infrastructure-type projects.

My gut feeling is that his position that the existence of the internet makes concerns about the whims of any given legal jurisdiction irrelevant is more than a bit naive.
Do Facebook employees get options, or do they get actual stock?
It's a failure if you're in the business of buying IPO stock.

For Facebook itself, it's a glorious success: they have successfully raised alllll the moneys. Most IPOs try to "pop" a little as an incentive to get the big underwriters to take multimillion/billion dollar positions (which they would be totally unable to liquidate at the 'popped' price, because they'd run out of buyers willing to pay decent money). But Facebook had people tripping all over themselves to get the stock. Why give away shares for anything less than they had to? Preserving existing shareholders' values is the name of the game, not giving away valuable shares to a bunch of outsiders.

An incredibly successful IPO.... for Facebook's existing shareholders. Possibly the best IPO ever.

(Disclosure: I bought 50 shares as part of the IPO, because I had that kind of money sitting around and was getting bored with medium-term corporate bond funds.)
Now this is a smart buy.
The UK can't legislate that anything be baked into browser because, because they would have a lot of trouble enforcing it. If Firefox decides they won't put the feature in what can the UK do? Also, in all likelihoods this feature would have an off button that most site would require to work anyways so it would be very pointless.
Bear in mind that they don't have all that cash. Some early investors and founders are taking some of that money off the table (which is fine). According to [1] over half the money is going to existing stockholders rather than the company.

That being said, Facebook doesn't actually need the cash for anything (apparent). It is profitable and can hire and build data centers.

For a company in Facebook's position, any large cash pile is likely to be used for acquisitions more than anything else.

But the share price still matters. It affects the company's ability to attract and retain talent.

In the 90s Microsoft did amazingly well from this. IIRC at the time an employee's stock options were price at the lowest closing price in the month after they joined. This meant that someone who joined in around 1990 could buy MSFT at less than $1 when it was trading at 50-100 times.

It is very hard for someone to leave in that kind of position.

AFAIK option vesting and pricing has changed somewhat since then (typically with the whole 4 year vest and 1 year cliff) such that early employees are probably fully-vested. Later share parcels won't be anywhere nearly as attractive. So those employees will stay basically as long as it's fun because it's not about the money anymore.

Then again, good luck motivating such people to do shitty jobs.

Facebook is now (IMHO) beyond the point where stock can be considered a lottery ticket anymore. Even it becomes a trillion dollar company that's still only 10x. At this point, a potential employee can simply multiply his or her RSU (restricted stock unit) allotment by the current price divide it by the vesting period and add that to base compensation plus target bonus to work out total comp.

Zuck still holds 57% of the voting power in Facebook so really the stockmarket doesn't matter much at all to Facebook. It's still Zuck's company and he can (within reason) do what he likes with it. That seems to be a tech company norm and probably a good thing based on the short-term narrowsighted thinking that seems to dominate Wall Street (just look at Yahoo).

TL:DR effect on FB = not a lot.

[1]: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230344840457740...
But timing can be important. Facebook may know that I have "Liked" someone's post related to hamburgers/milkshakes... but serving me a McDonalds ad when I'm reading my news feed may not be as effective as serving me one when I've just searched online for something related to hamburgers or milkshakes or viewing a food blog or something along those lines.
I'm pretty sure that Facebook is swiping up a number of these mobile-based companies so that when they get around to launching the Facebook Phone they will integrate these companies as the core services built into the phone itself. Think about it: Having a phone with the following services out of the box highly integrated with the Facebook platform:

1) Glancee -- Pretty much Google Latitude. See where your friends are around you built into your phone

2) Instagram -- Take amazing pictures with filters out of the gate built into your phone

3) Karma -- Get reminders about your friends' lives and events and send them gifts built into your phone

These aren't random BS talent-acquisitions (no disrespect). Facebook has something up its sleeve with mobile and I wouldn't be surprised if this was it.
Does Facebook sell user data to the highest bidder? I thought they used the information to target ads, not to actually sell.
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I think you are vastly overestimating the impact Facebook had on the so-called Arab spring. Internet penetration in that part of the world is not high enough for social media to trigger an uprising at that scale. Also, just because a dictator is overthrown doesn't mean things automatically change for the better. See Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and much of subsaharan Africa.
Traditionally, the point of an IPO was that it let the company raise more money than private investors could provide, so that the company could fund further growth. It's hard for me to see what opportunities this IPO opens for Facebook. They were already extremely well-funded. They already saturate their niche. It seems like the most likely consequence is that it will lead to early employees cashing out and moving on, while the only possible use for the billions raised are the kind of acquisitions that history shows rarely result in a net gain for the acquirer.
I'm sorry, but I think http://go.frenchlabs.net/ is far better. :)

Smoother.
> Your rhetoric also reminds me of women.

Wow.

> Sure, cold hard facts are "ugly".

They can be. But you don't have any. Using the word "fact" doesn't by itself make your argument factual.

> What's next, calling me "mean"?

Sure, but it's just the capstone on "sexist" and "ill-informed."
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