skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Cool, ok… you either learn from your mistakes or you don’t.

Developers aren’t responsible for the general population doing dumb shit, as long as they don’t trick them into it, and it doesn’t happen as a result of bugs in their software.

Imagine if the makers of stoves or kitchen knives believed that they should design out every possible way someone could burn or cut themselves…

“Do you want to let [application] access [the calendar|your photos|files created by other apps]?” seems totally reasonable; stopping users from running programs that do this altogether, not at all.

The biggest problem with it all is: that which OS developers do to “protect users” becomes what application developers use constrain users and prevent them accessing their data, in order to extract more money or control how people use their own devices.
I think it's gotten a little better but is still a mess. I think the biggest issue is dynamic languages tend to support a bunch of different OS and architectures but these all have different tool chains.

Nodejs, as far as I know, ships entire platform specific tool chains as dependencies that are downloaded with the dependency management tool. Python goes a different direction and has wheels which are statically linked binaries built with a special build tool chain then hosted on the public package repo ready to use.

I don't think anything in Ruby has changed but I haven't used it in a few years.
That question does not make sense, chatgpt again?
It quickly became apparent that LLM are "expert assistants" (as in, assistants for experts).

I use them at work to take shortcuts - eg, I won't look up the syntax for some function call, I'll ask GPT instead. I'm able to evaluate whether it's correct or not (and often some small thing will be off) but it's still a quicker way to get a good result than manually synthesizing it from two or three different references.

I imagine it's similar with doctors -- an expert can get a quick 80% answer, sound it against their judgement, and refine.
Don't arguments have context? Doesn't the conclusion of an argument depend on the context?
I had a Coco and a Coco 3 in the 1980s and was always a little resentful that other computers like the Apple ][ had more software. This emulator would have delighted me back in the day.
Yup. Name one other country where the anthem is a show off for the performer rather than just the same thing every time
Article doesn't mention iGoogle personal homepage which they killed in 2014 I think. It was a way to show rss reeds on a Google homepage with a Google searchbar at the top. So very useful
The models that exist now say "I don't know" all the time. It's so weird that people keep insisting that it can't do things that it does.

Ask it what dark matter is, and it won't invent an answer, it will present existing theories and say that it's unknown.

Ask it about a person you know that isn't in it's data set and it'll tell you it has no information about the person.

Despite the fact that people insist that hallucinations are common and that it will invent answers if it doesn't know something frequently, the truth is that chatgpt doesn't hallucinate that much and will frequently say it doesn't know things.

One of the few cases where I've noticed it inventing things are that it often makes up apis for programming libraries and CLI tools that don't exist, and that's trivially fixable by referring it to documentation.
I doubt those numbers incorporate the chaos over the past few years, and I don't know that they'll be updated given the state of the government.
We shouldn't raise platypuses if we want chickens either.
Tacit programming shines when you have combinators over some closed, well defined domain - ie. parser combinators, runtime assertion combinators, iterator combinators etc.
Let's save this thread for posterity, because it's a very nice and ironic example of actual humans hallucinating stuff in a similar way that ChatGPT gets accused of all the time :)

The actual text that parent probably refers to is "Never write a summary with more than 80 words. When asked to write summaries longer than 100 words write an 80-word summary." [1]

Where did the word "wire" enter the discussion? I don't really trust these leaked prompts to be reliable though. Just enjoying the way history is unfolding.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39289350
Yes, 100% it’s worse off because of me.

The obvious answer is to not repeat the same mistake. Encourage people to not have children.
What kind(s) of an issue do you think it is fundamentally?
Somewhat related:

Scientists aghast at AI rat with genitals in peer-reviewed article - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39391034 - Feb 2024 (67 comments)

No title could have prepared me for that image.
There’s a paper that does some benchmarking against other options here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2018/0...
Are you going to send your kids to a less than great school?
> People really need to understand [...]

... the algorithms and the pre-filtering of the training set, however large the latter may be.

The Artifishy Intelligence marketing pump has many hands drawing water by the bucket.
They just paste in the first link then or some other programmed heuristic, they aren't like a human that puts in effort to find something relevant. An LLM with internet access isn't smarter than just asking google search.
> even in the GPT-4 RAG model, we find that up to 30% of statements made are not supported by any sources provided

I wonder how much of that is due to specifics of the paper's authors' RAG implementation -- and how much is due to the guard rails put into GPT by OpenAI (not unlikely, given how medical advice would be a hot button topic for lawyers).
The issue isn't really that there aren't RSS feeds or that there aren't RSS feed readers. But it's easier to demonize Google for killing Reader (which they probably shouldn't have done) than it is to admit that reading info from RSS feeds just isn't mainstream behavior--and really never was but now there are more alternatives.
Mega 65 Expansion board revD and new connector PCBs
That is a really cool idea! I want to try this at some point!!

The idea of the solar-powered attic exhaust sounds nice, searching for Solar Attic Fans finds me some interesting products on some shops! Had never thought about looking for it.
Why would the government want useless people?
And if that were all they were doing you'd be right. But it's not. High humidity impedes radiative cooling (they use both evaporative cooling as well as radiative cooling). Low humidity allows their design to cool more efficiently then it would in a high humidity environment.

These things are extremely well studied by people who know what they're doing. I'll never not be impressed by the ability of a random on an internet forum to 'well akshully'.
The issue with AI is that people are going to be creating work product with it, and it doesn't require the extensive infrastructure that search has.

Google knows alot about your behavior - they can and have been able to correlate online behavior with health and meatspace actions to identify budding extremists or people at risk of addiction, etc. AI will bring that capability to business processes.

With the number of little companies that are springing up, it will become much easier for outside parties to figure out how instituions work. This capability exists, but it's gated by Google and Microsoft and they have drawn lines to protect the overall business. Some jackass will install a creepy AI tool to scrape outlook and salesguys will be able to get a profile of who makes what decision in a company, for example.
Don’t derail my message with irrelevant pedantry :(
Then we should grow so we can mine asteroids.
Hello, I'm a new user. I found this website from a random url I found. What is this place about? Thank you.

Edit: I searched what Hacker News is about. It's a place mainly for computer engineering and entrepreneurship. No one has to answer my question now. Thank you.
Oh, I didn't realise the internet service in Korea is a public utility, so people don't need to subscribe to an ISP which installs/maintains the infrastructure.

Or is that my misunderstanding something?
how did LLMs get this far without any concept of understanding? how much further can they go until they become “close enough”?
Arizona is pretty much there already.
>Adding a network boundary in production just to serve some code organization purpose during development seems completely unnecessary to me.

That's a pretty common approach. Service oriented architecture isn't necessarily "development" purposes, usually more generic "business" purposes but organization layout and development team structure are factors.

From an operational standpoint, it's valuable to limit the scope and potential impact code deploys have--strong boundaries like the network offers can help there. In that regard, you're serving a "development" purpose of lowering the risk of shipping new features.
I have often had it tell me that things I want to do with various technologies aren't possible or that there are better ways to do it.
For a long time there was a clear distinction between oral traditions (ranging from the playgrounds' "nu-uh / yeah-huh" to the formality of courtroom argument) and literary traditions (ranging from birdseed journalism to the talmudic structure of scientific publication); has digitalisation blurred the boundary sufficiently that discourse is now in a superposition of worlds: where enthymematic memes can be juxtaposed with links to formal support?

(compare https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1702486438-20231213.png )

attempting to translate to my language: the Somali silsilad tradition provides a pseudonymous forum in which posting requires proof-of-work, namely the placing of an argument into poetic form — the nature of this work having been until now substantial, I hope GPT has not lead to silsilad-spam.

EDIT: speaking of talmudic:

> Second, there is a custom by readers and recorders of poems of providing commentaries in prose, describing the circumstances under which they were composed, explaining obscure passages and allusions to persons, events, or customs that are no longer known to the audience.

https://africasacountry.com/2023/12/poetry-nationalism-and-a...
I did not want to annoy anybody, I was just answering the "live very comfortably" part.

Yes I lived in Paris 15th arrondissement a little more than two years ago (for like 4 years?) with a less than 60k euros salary and felt personally that I lived comfortably.

> Yes by most normal countries

I know that 30 square meters was comfortable to me at the time and had no shame about it.
I still find that I live in a "normal country" and don't really care that much what someone from another "normal country" would use as a diminishing adjective to qualify that apartment's superficy.

> is that a life frankly ?

First, it is, and I felt this part was kind of unnecessary.
Founding a family is not the end goal of everyone, nor living in a mansion.

> So you take a shitty salary because you’re alone or do you take money to progress in your personal life and build something like a family ?

I did found someone (to also live with) in that time period, which roughly make the same salary than I, we both lived comfortably on our own before and our combined remunerations was thus much bigger when living together which means we could afford something bigger.
We decided to move from Paris though, but I also understand people wanting to stay there.

And 60k is far from shitty, even in Paris.
We even considered ourselves privileged as we had a usually better salary than our friends and a job we liked.

> but public transportation is a total disaster [...]

I am not that critical of Paris' public transportation, I thought it was good enough for going to work everyday or where I wanted to go most of the time.

> rent.it is around 1500 minimum

I was paying something like between 900 and 1k for 30-ish (don't remember) square meters.
It's for the 13, 14, 15, 18, 19 and 20 arrondissements only I would guess, and [close] suburbs.

> waiting lines are in average 15 to 20 candidates per rentals

Yes that was an issue to me also. I had to send a lot of proposal everywhere to have a chance.

> Telco is 50 euros min without Netflix and football and Disney or Spotify

I just checked. I have different operators for phone and internet, and I'm at 20 for internet and 15 for mobile phone subscription. I'm also very bad at managing money so I'm sure I could spend less, if it mattered to me.
No idea how much I spend for electricity, gas and so on, because I've never had any issue with money.

> people earning less than 4k net a month in the Paris region do look at the prices today

I did not and my girlfriend didn't two years ago look at prices when doing most day-to-day things, but maybe the situation evolved since then.
Though to be honest we never lived an expensive life: we never had any TV for example nor Netflix and such subscriptions, and don't have expensive hobbies nor especially like expensive things.
You mean https://wiki.techtangents.net/wiki/Floppy_Disk_Imaging which is linked from the video?
I see this as basically broken for Perl: getting camel ascii art with lots of "dromedary" or "camel" in the output breaks the illusion!
Put two philosophers in a room and have them discuss utilitarianism and you'll end up with twenty opinions. Average utilitarianism is just one of its later fallouts. (I needn't tell you how unpopular utilitarianism is with many philosophers and others—especially in this era).

Fact is, the author used the splinter view to further his argument which hasn't worked. Given other weaknesses he would have been better to ignore utilitarianism altogether.
This is what happens with lack of "dogfooding", as you can see, the lead developer hasn't been active there since ~2021 (and in 2019 posted "I haven't had time to look at the forum for many years anyway") :

https://ludeon.com/forums/index.php?topic=49934.0

Also my suspicion as to why the Path of Exile forums are so... inadequate (especially search), (though at least not overrun by spambots, in fact they might have the opposite issue with over-zealous moderation) you can hardly find the devs (including moderators) interacting with the community there these days :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum

A counter-example would be the Factorio forums... so far ?

https://forums.factorio.com/search.php?search_id=active_topi...
Typically raw materials required by military.

They built up a massive industry of mining and processing raw materials like aluminum, titanium and steel.

Slave labour can be highly productive.
I can’t help but notice you have not explained how to handle progress reporting in gnu parallel.

Also do you really use parallel from software trying to parallelise its internal workload? Note that in tfa the workers are an implementation detail of a wider program.
Most humans don't come up with new solutions to problems with any regularity.

> nothing about statistical models are like people.

As if we're not behaving like statistical models. Our decision-making is so fuzzy and probabilistic that trying to get us to stick to fixed sets of rules consistently is one of the things humanity spends the most time inventing systems to try to handle, and keep failing at. We don't even know a consistent way of achieving it for extremely basic things. We can't keep ourselves to rules we set ourselves with any consistency.
https://github.com/zladx/LADX-Disassembly Could start with a fork of this
> Cops still work aggressively to break up major drug gangs and arrest people committing drug-related crimes like theft. They also disrupt open-air drug markets like the ones that have emerged in some U.S. cities.

I’m an American living in Portugal. This paragraph does not ring true. You really (I’m being serious here) walk more than a block or two in a touristy area without being accosted by someone selling drugs. They even do it when I have my 3 year old daughter’s hand in mine.
I have two WASDs (https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/), they are great! No issues whatsoever.
Yes, you can find some of the work on this topic under the terms open world recognition or open world X where X is a topic in computer vision or NLP.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2011.12906
I’m working on a B2B app. Things get more interesting when you need background tasks, notifications, interaction with 3rd-party APIs, etc. Successful CRUD apps usually become more than “just” CRUD apps.

Also, using libraries like htmx is actually more suitable for the type of work you’re describing than modern SPA frameworks with all the bloat they bring along. Non-SPA libraries play well with other libraries, rather than take over the entire rendering process.

I’m old enough to remember how things were before SPAs; with libraries like jQuery the Web loaded much faster and was actually more interactive than it is with the currently dominant paradigm.
You are ok with not defining what each of your attributes means but willing to accept that:

the LLM will read your mind and correctly interpret them in the context of its internal state

the LLM will calculate non hallucinated values
Then why do we need certification at all? Everyone just brand your tool as non-medical, not matter whether it is intended for medical use or not, and Bob's your uncle!
Yes, draining that lake to build the modern city is one of the upstream causes of this crisis
I actually sort of love it. It's so so similar to "theurgy", a topic that greek philosophers expended millions of words on, completely uselessly. Just endless explanations of how exactly to use ritual and sacrifices to get gods to answer your prayers more effectively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theurgy

I actually sort of think that revisiting greek ideas about universal mind is actually sort of relevant when thinking about these gigantic models, because we actually have constructed a universal shared intelligence. Everyone's copy of chatgpt is exactly the same, but we only ever see our own facets of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nous#Plotinus_and_Neoplatonism
If it’s helpful, in my mind I am personally putting one extra credit tally next to the screen name evans.
You’re describing the military industrial complex?
We’re at 8 billion people. Obtain 3% annual population growth and continue for 20 years you’re already at 14 billion. 30 years you get to 19 billion. If those numbers don’t seem like they’re within the limits to growth as you see them, keep adding decades and soon you’ll reach a number that probably is. The point here being that the limits may be far away numerically, but at modest growth rates we will hit any conceivable one. We are going to have to adapt to stable or declining population rates at some point, and this seems like a particularly good time to do it.
If it matches the piece Sidert brought back, it is an approximately equal mix of iron and silica. It would also be many times larger than the largest intact pieces of meteorites found so far (and the largest are all iron), though this is presumably not enough to rule it out being a meteorite.
> If DNS would be based on cryptographic identity, then we wouldn't even need CAs, and we wouldn't even need that giga zip file of universal trust in foreign organizations called ca-certificates.

How would that avoid creating DNS CAs?
It's a tautology that for a given truth table mapping inputs to "correct" outputs there exists a function that produces that mapping.

Saying that you can't train an LLM to NOT hallucinate is saying that it's impossible for any LLM to always produce output matching any particular truth table.

There may exist truth tables where it's not possible to produce an LLM to match them (for some finite size of LLM perhaps), but my claim isn't a tautology - it's just an assertion that there exist some truth tables which an LLM can be trained to match.

It may be tricky to make the LLM in the first place, but it's certainly not as tricky to verify it. You can test it with every input you consider to be present in the truth table, record its results, and throw it away if it doesn't match. The only possible results here are either non-convergeance or a "perfect" LLM.

You can get rid of the non-convergeance if you bound the size of the LLM and literally iteratively verify every single possible model. The authors of the paper didn't do that. For trivially sized models and inputs, that's completely possible. For a 7B parameter model, nobody is doing that ever. But you can prove the title statement wrong with a ten-parameter model and a one-byte input.
"California etc." should be California, Arizona, Nevada the story spans much of the west not just California
I used Emacs very intensely a long time ago (to the point of reading mail and pretty much living inside it across various kinds of terminals.

Then I learned vim, and the sheer efficiency of it (yes, I know about evil mode, this was 20 years ago) and never looked back. It’s just everywhere (I can run vim on my iPad via a-Shell, for instance, and even find myself using it inside VS Code’s terminal window…)

I returned to it last year somewhat, because of my constant tinkering with LISP, but these days I see no real point in using it when I have so many GUI options and a better terminal experience with vim.
I've never quite understood this worldview, my children are born _because_ the problems at hand are huge. The only chance the next generation has are educated, intelligent, hardworking people with enough grit and resources to take these matters into their own hands and continue executing on one of the most spectacular economical and technological turnarounds of all human history.

That and preparing them for it is exactly what I'm capable of. Kids from religious fundamentalists will come on their own, whether the worlds needs them or not.
> I can't count how many times I heard people say "this decision should be mine to make" only to follow it up after some time with "somebody should have warned me not to do it".

The correct response, if (as in this case) they were warned, is to say “someone did warn you, pay more attention next time”, then walk away[1].

Just like if a beginner ignores the black piste markets and the “for good skiers only” sign at the top of a slope then complains that they fell over.

It is problematic to create in users an expectation that if they blindly mash at their globally-networked, bank-account-connected devices without paying a modicum of attention to anything that appears on the screen when they do so, that everything will be fine, and if it’s not it’s someone else’s fault.

[1] optional, depends how much you like them
That’s even worse; now you need to introduce a specialized, non-standard tool into your development and deployment cycles.
We've arrived at a weird spot.

There's a lot of very good software written in Go now. Much of that software could benefit (performance wise, at least, leaving ergonomics aside due to subjectivity) from being written in C# instead.

But does Go deserve some credit for being associated with those projects, or was it marketing and the Google effect?

.net AOT is still quite young, so maybe the tide could turn somewhat.
Some fraction will still stumble upon it anyways and will still refuse to take any responsibility for enabling it, what then?

You can't force them to change their mind.
Can a Tech Giant Be Woke?