skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> you must install an app on your phone

I _love_ those. When I'm trying to configure my modem, nothing gets my nether regions tingly faster than

(1) Visiting the documented configuration site on the back of the modem

(2) It 404s in a new and excitingly different way from every other modem you've owned

(3) After visiting a nearby business with working internet, the helpful interblags populace suggests you need an app, for ... reasons

(3a) At least in the old days, that was just a blatant money grab (harvest your location history and contact list, spam notifications, and so on). Now with halfway decent permissions it's less clear why they're such a-holes about it.

(4) You have the foresight to install the app while internet is available.

(5) Your phone is 2 years old, and the manufacturer views bare-minimum due-diligence updates as a liability and hasn't packaged the latest OS updates. Google simultaneously doesn't trust you to update your phone without somebody-other-than-them taking the liability and also highly recommends all their app developers to only target the very latest Android version. None of the modem-makeitbetter-thingamawhutts work on your phone because 2yo devices are practically fossil fuels in the making at this point.

(6) You surf the interblags for an old version of the modem-makeitbetter-thingamawhutts. After searching long enough, you have a >50% chance of having found the real archive and not a virus, since Google refuses to host old APKs.

(7) By sheer luck, that suffices, and your modem manufacturer doesn't have one of those "your thingamawhutt version is too old" screens in their app.

(8) You go back home, where it's safe and all is well, and when you try to configure your modem you find that the app only works if it can phone home to the mothership. That's a fine thing to want to do, except the only reason you're using the blasted app is because you don't have internet at home and would like to rectify the deficiency.

(9) After a bit of contemplation on the life choices that led you to this moment, you recall that your wife's phone can produce a hotspot that might remedy the immediate clusterfuck.

(10) That doesn't work. Her phone has internet and working hardware, but Google has decided to ask her cell provider if she's allowed to share the hardware she purchased with nearby devices for a single crisis moment. Her cell provider says that she can do anything she would like with the device she paid for and owns, so long as they also get paid repeatedly.

And so on. I'm having fun, reply if you want me to continue the saga, but IME an app is a very poor choice for configuring a modem, and that sort of bullshit has bit me in more ways than I can count. Even when you can get the damned thing to work, like OP mentions, the settings aren't anywhere near as nice as what the firmware natively supports.
Perhaps it's a commentary on humans drawing arbitrary thresholds to excuse themselves from caring about other humans who don't meet them?
If anyone wants to get into this field, I did a bunch of research recently and the Gtech Unicorn is by far the best option for entry level devs AFAICT. Now we just need to wait until someone starts selling fNIRS+EEG+ultrasound lightweight headsets with built-in LLM processing functions for noise removal and spatial mapping. From there it’s a hop skip and a jump to mind control, sadly.

Calling it now, within 5 years American police will start experimenting with EEG helmets for detecting impairment.

EDIT: also implants are rediculously unnecessary and dangerous. And that’s just for sensing - please please please never let a Silicon Valley company modulate your brain. That’s sci fi lesson #1, above “don’t do clones” and “time travel is bad”
And how to these black markets connect the phone numbers to names? I guess from data collected from more insecure sources. So I think Signal is being responsible with their data.

Also, you need some way to log in to your account. So you need an identifier and some way to validate that you are the owner of that identity. And next to that you want to prevent spam. So I think the choice to use a phone number as an identifier for a text-messaging app that is meant to be a secure replacement of SMS is not that weird.

But let's say they are data hoarding our phone numbers, and they can get other details about us through the black market because we use other more insecure services where we suddenly don't seem to care about privacy. Then what do you think Signal does with this data? They can't resell it because they don't have anything unique, they actually need to invest money to link their database of just phone numbers to something else. And then? What malicious things will they be able to do?
>2. raised the local price to monopoly prices, creating a great reward for the first local manufacturer to achieve parity.

The government was both going to demand, and fund local companies creating a competing product and was already doing so long before sanctions arrived. Nothing about the sanctions sped up the process in the least. The Western sanctions had almost 0 bearing on accelerating local chip production, but it did do a GREAT job of limiting their ability to buy the hardware required for advanced fabrication.

You also seem to have a belief that a "monopoly" in China is anything remotely like the West. It's not a free market, if a company in China tries to gouge the market or take it in a direction that's not approved at the expense of what the party wants, their executive leadership will quickly find themselves on the outside looking in (if they're lucky) or sitting in a jail cell if they aren't. See: Jack Ma

Semiconductors were core to the "Made in China" strategy the party was pushing in 2014...

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/semiconductors/our-insig...
Oh whoops, I cut my thumb and it will never be the same.
> No individual is all that creative, and anyone accomplished is standing on the shoulders of past giants to get there.

Are you seriously going to argue that, say, Bach or Shakespeare were not all that creative?
You should worry more about their mental health.
This will be a major point of contention if machine learning continues to go the way it’s going.

In the future if the Turing test is fully passed I think morality will boil down to preferring humans if and only if it’s a situation of competing scarcities.

In the case of “showing pictures to computer people”, showing pictures to a computer doesn’t prevent you from showing it to a human so this framework imply no moral justification for a human preference.
Yeah but this is mind reading. Idk if “most people are boring” is the right reaction to such a pressing and absolutely terrifying threat to our personal safety and autonomy, in the long term.

I hate god for making LLMs work…
Oh so this guy has a spec? Must be nice.
Oh my God this sounds like New Orleans
Whoa, I just recently started having issues with my watch battery dying overnight when it used to last without any problems. Guessing it’s the same thing.
Always cool reading a HN post to a reaction Tweet/Toot of a screenshot, from a newspaper article, about something the reporter read in a chatroom, that happened to someone else.

That is a form of humor, but obviously cops know binary search and any smart person wouldn't get this joke.

They'd be thinking, having actually searched video for an incident it's a PiTA. It's not just half, half, half. You won't necessarily be able to see the bike well. The store won't want to hand over everything they have to a cop who doesn't even know when it happened.... did it happen, is the cop lying if they know so little?

Not great cops having the right to search all footage to the dawn of humanity without a warrant either.

But I guess for a kid in high school having learned an algorithm they can pwn cops with (in their head) it's more funny.

The missing next paragraph from the newspaper article -

"I made a (slightly more diplomatic) nuisance of myself and they eventually looked at the footage. The policewoman I dealt with was lovely about it, but in the end the image wasn’t clear. Maybe they were right not to bother."
exactly. it's not about what's good for the consumer, it's about what they can do without losing a lawsuit for false advertising.
I think one would be hard-pressed to find anyone who claims there are no significant differences (at some point, the question reduces to one of definition).

The argument is over what those differences are, how much they matter (i.e. a 1% difference in the mean? Who cares), and how malleable they are given modern medical science.

(And that's before one gets on the topic of whether those differences should imply a societal structure that pigeon-holes people based on their biological sex).
Yeah absolutely.

On the up side startups don't have equity you can trade, so you're unlikely to demonstrate disloyalty this way.

And to be fair, if you go work for a startup you know what you're getting into. (And hopefully you know that the equity they give you has about the same value as a lottery ticket.)
If the userbase grows enough (let's say 100x that of today), they could become an SEO target. As happy as I am with the current results I am aware that SEO gaming is only a problem once scale is relevant. Once there are teams of people reverse engineering kagi's ranking explicitly wanting to beat it.

There's a good chance not enough people are willing to pay for search and this never becomes a problem.

Disclaimer: happy paying customer.
We are not far off from the point where these kinds of constraint sets can produce designs. JitX is doing this for circuit boards. Houses are probably simpler, although people are more complex about their home.
How many times will the same story make it's rounds on the frontpage from different sources?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39440354
I guess I will be uninstalling Telegram, now.

It was great, then it focused on monetization at the cost of other things.

I still kept it because I could simply share an handle and talk with strangers over the internet on my phone/laptop. There won't be that need anymore.

I hope this feature puts pressure on Whatsapp to implement the same.
Ah, good to know, thanks. I had just eyeballed it. (I did say someone's estimations were probably off - it just turned out to be mine.)
If smart TVs are spying on us so much that the ads are the most valuable part, should we start calling then telescreens? 1984 vibes.
Even Rust doesn't claim to be "safe" without a qualifier. From the website:

> Rust’s rich type system and ownership model guarantee memory-safety and thread-safety — enabling you to eliminate many classes of bugs at compile-time.

Note that it explicitly mentions "memory" safety and "thread" safety, which has a specific but reasonable definition in Rust (for example, memory safety doesn't cover physical memory leak). Also it explicitly mentions which portion of Rust is responsible for such guarantees, namely "type system" and "ownership model", and it is reasonably claimed that the ideal implementation of both will indeed completely achieve such guarantees. To be clear, the current implementation is also very close to that ideal to make such claim meaningful, but there is always a difference between the ideal and the practice.
I'm not sure why you're bringing circumcision into this.
> To contrast, the owner of molex at one point heard my dad needed a surgery. He came down on the shop floor, called him over and sent my dad (and our family) to the Mayo Clinic for 2 weeks to have the surgery done (all expenses paid).

I don't know how often this happens in Western mega corporations (which is probably why you're surprised).

And you obviously haven't been to Japan. Yes, long hours, but your employer takes care of most aspects of your life. Healthcare, apartment, marriage, your kids education, everything. See this article by patio11: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2014/11/07/doing-business-in-japan...

In the non-crappy businesses in India other people — coworkers, bosses, etc — taking care of you is routine. And — okay this is a terrible example — in the unfortunate situation that somebody dies, for instance, trust me, random people just help the family with funeral and stuff like that.

What I'm trying to say is this: the rest of the world isn't filled with morons and cattle.

Oh and by the way, across the world people want quality products. Even people from — gasp — the global South. We too want our fridges and washing machines and TVs and cars and everything else to last forever.
wp sez

> The National Bureau of Standards (now NIST) based the time standard of the US on quartz clocks between the 1930s and the 1960s, after which it transitioned to atomic clocks.[43] In 1953, Longines deployed the first quartz movement.[44] The wider use of quartz clock technology had to await the development of cheap semiconductor digital logic in the 1960s. ... In 1966, prototypes of the world's first quartz pocket watch were unveiled by Seiko and Longines in the Neuchâtel Observatory's 1966 competition.

but certainly it is common for today's technological miracle to become taken for granted tomorrow
His video on Backpropagation was a revelation to me :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SA3rM6ckI
> What makes those anti-American?

They infringe on our rights. Do you really believe there is a right to harass others?

> What does it have to do with the US in particular?

It's the US that has a Constitution, a Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence, etc. Of course, any other nation is free to adopt them as well, and become American.

> And who are you to tell other Americans what's American or not?

I'm an American. I have relatives that fought in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WW1, WW2, and the Korean War. In particular, these are my father's opinions, very strongly held by him. I did not earn them like he did in combat, but he's gone now and so I carry on. He told me once that he fought so I wouldn't have to. Never forget that our freedoms were all paid for with blood, lots of blood.

> It's everyone else's country as much as yours.

Yes. I see people all the time eager to throw away our rights that were so bitterly fought for. The Constitution also has a lot of checks and balances meant to make it difficult to for people to throw it away.

> all protest is suspect in our great democracy

You can protest all you like. But our freedoms do not include the right to impede other peoples' rights to go about their business.
“Rhetoric”

There’s no rhetoric. When you phrase things this way it just makes you sound like an anti-USA pro-China troll.
Gentrification didn't kill it, overly restrictive planning rules did
I'm 99% sure the comment you're replying to was satire.
An unpolished thought:

Consider the case of a computer simulation of a worm [0]

If your simulation predicts the worm behavior up to some tolerance, you then laugh at it's supposed free will

There's some outside conditions that can't be controlled (the simulator is also a subset of the same universe) and may deterministically affect the worm behavior

To fully account for these factors and their corresponding deterministic chains, the simulation must grow more and more complex if you want more precision

Maybe free will could be thought instead of as a determinism ratio taking into account compute limits

I suspect a logical contradiction could arise presuming a subset of the universe being able to simulate the whole universe

If the simulation has to be limited, some "wiggle room" of free will must be granted to the worm

[0] https://openworm.org/
I hadn’t used a burner in years, last year my phone broke on a trip and I just wanted to grab a phone, to get me through the week. I can say it’s not like it used to be! Can’t just grab one at the gas station and pop it in a phone. Gotta give ID, sign up for accounts, etc.
<big tech> the building must make $10b/year in revenue, or else you are all fired.
the article is about the prevalence of it
Nah it's different because it's different. A machine is copying the entire contents of the copywritten work to "learn" from it. Humans don't.

I also don't get the cheerleading here. You aren't getting free access to this tech. Cheap access maybe, for now, but the only outcome is to suppress labor and maximize profit, because that's what the market demands.

What do we tell people in an unaffordable world dealing with the impacts of climate change when their jobs are gone? That they can't be a software engineer, or an artist, or an animator because we've taken that work - and money - and handed it to a chosen few when using their own labor to bootstrap it? This is how riots happen.
>The King does have a form of absolute power but only on the understanding that it is never used. Its not quite that simple but it is!

Didn't it come out recently that Queen Elizabeth was actually putting her thumb on the scales for decades to get royal opt-outs for all sorts of random laws? (including, most egregiously, anti-discrimination law)

Regardless, your King was also having protesters jailed for holding blank signs under the suspicion that they might write something republican[0] on it. And there's that video of Irish soccer hooligans chanting "Lizzie's in a box" during a minute of silence they did for Queen Elizabeth. Not exactly something that happens in a country with "another governor".

[0] Americans: no I don't mean the GOP
The world keeps getting better as technology advances, and people will adapt to the new changes.

That's making the very large assumption that there are no qualitative differences among our various leaps in technology. It's not hard to make the argument that AI is a different and larger and more disruptive leap than the invention of the tractor.

This is a complex issue that people on both sides of the argument tend to oversimplify. Figuring out how we should regulate and integrate this new technology is going to take time and a lot of back and forth.
Ok, now that you've clarified: My take was correct, right? Your first instinct was to attack my character instead of discussing the topic, and you knew you had to be sneaky about it to not obviously break the rules.

Your empathy isn't showing so clearly, and honestly I have more friendly discussions with ChatGPT than I am having with you.

As for what artists care about - nobody is taking away their cameras or brushes. They can keep creating all they want. It really seems like it's about money to me.
I see both sides of the issue. Training is not infringing, yet reproducing existing works is not a good look. Personally, I think AI is transformational and should be allowed. Moreover, infringement happens only if/when the output is shared by the user that generated it; it is not illegal to reproduce copyrighted works in the privacy of your own home.

Regardless, there is literally zero chance of predicting the outcome ahead of time. It will depend entirely on the whims of the judges that try the case. And I do mean “judges”, because anyone watching this should know full well that this will be appealed to the highest level possible.

In a landmark case like this, the judges can cite whatever random precedents fit their agenda of which side they believe should win. This also means that the decision probably will be based more on politics than legality. Judges are far from impartial.
Telegram's biggest investor is Russia's sovereign fund.

So I'd argue monetization here is not a top issue
How exactly is content generation helping with preventing unnecessary death?
true, but it's challenging to get a boost converter, even a very simple one like a joule thief, into the space of this earring; i think it's too small for a millihenry. using a larger number of smaller batteries might be a better option
fs_usage will often tell you what's going on just by looking at process and file names. sudo fs_usage -w
I mean, we don't think of ourselves as lobe-finned fish either.
yes, i need to feel heard. thanks for the specs and see you at tomorrows standup!
Unless you design the LLM yourself and purposefully watermark the output. https://arxiv.org/pdf/2306.04634.pdf
You can use these “features” to hijack accounts too ;)

I’d call them bugs, but they’ve been reported and didn’t get fixed.
> because it competes with their work.

it really doesn't
People do pay to see movies, to read books, to go to the museum, and for formal education… Do you think the ratio of cost to go to film school per video made for an individual is the same ratio as the cost for stock video library per video made for an AI?

>The world keeps getting better as technology advances

Will it, forever? Is that a given? Technology might also destroy the planet.
Like this?
https://www.temu.com/2pcs-led-earrings-illuminated-with-whit...
Also, I am a visual and tactile person so I would need you to build a mock-up of this house in advance, preferably 1:1 scale, and fully functional so I can see how it will function. If I am dissatisfied with any aspect of the house, I expect you to rebuild it from scratch, only faster since you have already had practice building it once before, so how hard could it be to build it again while incorporating my changes?
As a non-American, I've usually seen that word being used to defend racist ideoalogies or promote hate mongering, in online discourse. So whenever I see that word I naturally brace myself for whatever new idea the speaker is going to promote.

I think Americans would have a different association with the word though.
>they were effective in their goals and slowed China down

I believe that, unfortunately, the US has a much lesser grip on the global economy nowadays. So, these kinds of sanctions only slow them down (the US), while other economies benefit immensely, even China itself.

i.e. there will always be a buyer for a billion surplus chips in the market.
You're Roku TCL may be a POC, but TCL puts out televisions that are at the forefront of LCD/LED TV technology. Very happy with my 55R655.
So, ... destroying an entire shipment of tea owned by a business is quintessentially un-American and a gross transgression of American Rights?
This is really some next level victimhood. Building houses often does involve dealing with whiny homeowners/builders with bad taste and no clue who want everything but also don’t want to pay. That’s the job. Good software engineers know working with stakeholders and users is also the job.

I’ll add another shocker: sometimes blueprints are poorly specified and/or incorrect. And yet, people build the houses. That’s the job!
Margins are so thin that the only money to be made is in ads and tracking.
If we take privacy issue, it can be divided into 3 segments:

This sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
Assume it will be a spherical house in a vacuum. Except when it isn't.
To clarify, the 'caring about money' mentioned here refers to millions of humans genuinely worried about how they'll continue to survive and support their families in the society in which they live, as their profession is decimated over the course of a year or two, a fraction of the time it takes to learn a new one.
This 100%. We've discovered, especially in small customers, it's worth finding out if the payer, and user, are the same person.

In some places the new house is being built for folk who are happy with the old house. And if the users don't want to change they can sabotage the project away. It's worth finding out, before any money is spent, just how devoted to thd project the owner is.

As in, if push comes to shove, who gets fired, the architect or the monther-in-law?
The luddites didn't destroy the power looms because they were some kind of handcrafting purists - they destroyed the machines because they took away ownership of the means of production from individual craftsmen to big businesses. The problem wasn't the machine, it was the factory and its owner.
Self driving cars are far more impactful on employment and livelihoods of lower income and independent workers.

And seemingly harder to reach non-monopoly/oligopoly solutions.
A Cloud-Scale Characterization of Remote Procedure Calls [pdf]