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I read a pretty good book called Telling to Win. It really takes practice and making sure you have a beginning. A middle and an end. Most people who are bad story tellers don't have the end right.
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Its not anti trust because developers can switch to android or wp7. There are no unmoveable market forces that will deem switching as market suicide, in other words there is no monopoly.
I should clarify: he surely is trying to mock them sometimes, but (a) it’s a pretty friendly ribbing, and (b) the mockery isn’t the purpose, it’s just a rhetorical device. By my italicized “mock”, I meant something closer to: “he’s not trying to shame them into submission, as some kind of ‘authoritarian’ bully power play”.

Edit: maybe it’s better to say that he isn’t trolling them (i.e. intentionally riling people up just for the sake of being a jerk), but is trying to be genuinely helpful and advance the conversation, even though sometimes that takes a teasing sort of tone. Notice all the smiley faces.
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> some nuances of GROUP BY

I won't call them nuances. SQL tries hard to be very close to set theory, and not just for the sake of it. In set theory, you have no nuances, you have only one possible answer to a question, and MySQL is like a bad student how do not understand why, in maths, you should never affirm something that is not 100% sure and proven.
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Is that really true, or just an assumption?

How can we be sure that doing stuff like this was a contributing cause, let alone a necessary cause?
Reply to your own comments on HN more, and the co-founders will surely come
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I love this kind of thing - random absurdism in unexpected places. It pulls people out of their comfort zone in a non-threatening way where everybody gets a good chuckle.

The look on the guy's face as the band steps out of the elevator? That's one of my favorite things to cause to happen to other people - it's just plain fun all around.
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Sheer quantity of music. I have yet to see another music service come close in content to youtube. Spotify is okay, but there's a lot they don't have. And their commercials are annoying as hell. Pandora is great, but their model doesn't allow for selecting specific songs. Soundcloud is awesome for original and underground tunes, but not mainstream and classic songs.

Youtube has (almost) everything.
Can someone explain the opportunity in Pair? I tried it for a few days with my wife. Cool concept and thumb kiss was cute but we later reverted to iMessage just cause its more convenient and accessible. What 'pain point' does pair solve?
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I remember in university having half a dozen X terminals attached to a single Sun Sparc which wasn't even as powerful as an iPhone. One high-powered SGI server had dozens of these terminals attached to it. That was how you stretched your hardware budget as far as it could go.

It's kind of amusing that we've come full circle in that regard, now using a single CPU for multiple independent sessions. At least it's not all networked X Window any more.
>Skype was flawed from the outset, being non-transparent (about how the network is set up, turning machines into supernodes withtout permission, and the encryption they use). It's all closed. Why? You can't verify it's well-designed.

Perhaps relevant for a FOSS zealot (and I really don't mean that in a derogatory way here, there's a time and a place), but the average user doesn't care about the infrastructure - they want it to work and work well. And Skype pretty much always has, at least in my experience.
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Say what now? It always seemed to do that quite fine for me. If a client drops off, I can still send messages, and they'll sit in the window with the little "working" circle next to t hem. The partner picks them up when they reconnect.

I've logged in more than once to have a metric ton of IM's waiting for me.
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I've been programming on and off for a few years now. Unfortunately, there are people out there who have been developing software less than 6 months and could probably code circles around me.

I'm looking for a programmer that has some prior programming experience or no experience at all. We'll keep each other motivated by sharing what we learn or accomplish each day. This model seems to be successful at getting people committed to their projects, so why not apply it to programming too?

If you're up for the challenge, drop a line here or hit me up on Twitter at @ManiacalScience.

EDIT: I'm going to leave this for a while and see how many responses I get. If I get more than one or two I'll have to talk to everyone and see who most closely matches my own goals and interests. If it is the case that a decent number of people are looking for someone to learn with, it wouldn't be a bad idea for others to try pairing up.
Right, but they're not forced to purchase Apple's services; just like the patients at the hospital who have no choice of anasthesiologists, Apple customers can simply select a different vendor.
Microsoft eventually overcame Apple's superior market position and better product because the market is going to act to increase choice on the part of intelligent consumers of information technology(i.e. competitive organizations).

Apple was able to superscede Microsoft's platform advantage because everything became a web application(thanks Netscape!)

At the moment a bunch of guys with drool on their spreadsheets are trying to turn the world of web applications back into a platform one so that they can collect rent. It seems like this particular escape from freedom isn't going to occur because:

1) A major appeal of mobile devices is the idea that you can give people who are disinclined to serious computer literacy a tool that is easier to secure, and requires less support staff to show them how to use.

* However, it seems unlikely that large profit seeking organizations will thrive by handing their nervous systems over to other large profit seeking organizations.

Ultimately companies are going to want their locked down devices for their less computer literate employees to be completely within their control. Either there will be some sort of arcology/vertical integration type deal where there are all these companies that are in effect subsidiaries of their chosen mobile technology provider, or, the more likely answer:

IBM will make a metric crap ton of money supporting in-house Tizen[0] projects for serious people who don't want their IP floating around their mobile providers network 'secured' solely on good faith and contractual assurances.(ultimately this probably goes for cloud applications as well)

2) The second big appeal of mobile devices is the idea that you can program Angry Birds in your spare time, sell it 'directly'[1] to consumers and quit your day job. It seems to my rather cursory investigation that this isn't happening as much as it could be due to people duking it out nastily to try and secure maximal app store rent, and not doing enough to support developers.

[0] Thank god they stopped calling it MeeGo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizen

[1] Honestly, 30% is reasonable marketplace rent. Documentation needs to be less opaque, and support for marketing analysis needs to be better for it to really be fair rent, but it's the standard marketing upsell in a lot of other industries, so it seems reasonable for apps as well.
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I'm curious what F# features are you referring to? The generic hash/compare type functions?
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What part of "I'm a nerd, the term is a shorthand, not an insult" are people having so much trouble with?

I've been a systems programmer since 1994. I do not believe that you honestly believe that I think "nerd" is an insult. It beggars belief. Please find a better way to be irritated with me; this is such a stupid one.

Why not just go the extra mile and call me a "self-hating nerd"? At least that would make sense.
Depends on the project and client. If the client cares at all, I just write down how long something took. If it's 1.05 hours, so be it.

BUT... I don't generally do anything that isn't at least a half day, totaled up. But if I do 3 things in that half day, I find some clients benefit from seeing how much time each thing took. It helps them to get more realistic about their time expectations. Other clients could give a toss, and for them, I just send a one line invoice: "Web development: $x,xxx"
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P2P has an advantage of being harder to block or to throttle at the last mile ISPs.

Also, P2P generally delivers smallest connection latency as compared to all other setups.

Also, P2P makes it harder for the service provider to snoop on the traffic, and this might be just the reason why Microsoft is shifting towards supernodes. Skype is just too big of a communication infrastructure piece to let it go "unsupervised."

So while the bandwidth might be getting cheaper, there's still plenty of reasons to do things in P2P way.
The funding is to pay for full-time ReactOS development. Wine might be involved to a degree, but surely putting money directly into ReactOS is the best option.
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I recall using Netscape in 1998 or so on Windows Nt. Where do I find the download link for Chrome or Safari on iOS?
MooTools makes more sense to me when you actually compare the two apis. If you're a JavaScript fan, MooTools is truer to the language.

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You put it in your contract - it should be crystal clear. If at some point, you don't want to continue (i.e. extend your contract), just refer them to another developer. It's not that big a deal.
My wife and I use Pair almost daily since I first saw the post on HN. I think it has to do with Pair feeling like our private chat (though I know nothing server-based really is). iMessage is what I use to talk to everyone. Whatsapp is what I use to talk to everyone outside US. Pair is just for my wife. Both of us have stressful work-lives so sending cute drawings over pair is a welcome break. We were so excited on Tuesday when we thumb-kissed for the first time while not being on the same sofa.

I don't think of Pair as a communication app. I think of it as our time together when we're far apart. iMessage is gathering around the water cooler. Pair is pillow-talk in the bedroom. I know it's not a rational or testable statement but it "feels" private and personal. And emotions are a big deal when you're talking about apps and Pair seems to have got it right.

* above statements not sponsored by Pair, just a happy user :)
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I'm sorry cageface. I've re-read it again, and I appologize.
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I think you guys have gotten off topic..
Having used Python in anger for some years I have never encountered anything like this (scripts with mutually incompatible dependencies, really?) It sounds like you ran into some specific package which was poorly made or had a bad release, or perhaps just a package which should have had its dependencies pegged at specific versions?

I'm completely lost as to why you think this is a problem with Python or its standard library. (Except that this seems like an opportune venue to bash a perceived competitor to your favorites)

It was years before I even saw any need to use virtualenv, (and that was because of misbehaving packages from Google and a desire never to modify PYTHONPATH again).

About documentation, again I feel strongly that you must have used some specifically bad package and again I can't say how I see that to be an inherent flaw with Python or its standard library.

"Pure" is one of the last things I'd call Python. For example, imperative constructs are jumbled with OO constructs and functional constructs.
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It sounds like it is entirely possible. Of course, like everything else in the App Store it probably depends on whether Apple A) thinks your service is a competitor to theirs and B) has anchovies for dinner last night.
There are not a lot of examples. However, the markets adjust. [And for those trying to second guess me, there isn't any hidden message in the message or anything]

One of the areas that hasn't been explored a whole lot in the product space is 'moderated open' which is how I think of the Linux Kernel. You can change it all you want, get the source, etc, but if you want to get into the kernel that everyone else sees you have to go through Linus. He keeps the quality pretty high by doing that. It was similar to FreeBSD as 'open source' but 'moderated commits.'

Now in the tablet space I have yet to see someone to take that path. There do not seem to be too many successes for business people to draw on for inspiration. That being said, as an example the Kindle Fire has sold a lot of units. And it is a completely legit argument that Amazon 'makes it up in book sales' (which is their business model) much like the iPod can be subsidized by iTunes purchases.

And I am sympathetic to mladenkovacevic's comment about a wild and free ecosystem can be more useful/desirable than a locked down one. But I also recognize that there are lots of folks who are interested in the product, not deeply technical, and chafe under Apple's restrictions on developers.

If anyone could 'afford' to make a run at this, Google could. And perhaps they will with a 'Google Experience' tablet that has been rumored.

I understand your lack of hope given the things you have seen so far. Back in the before times of personal computers when they had lights and switches on the front, the introduction of the IBM PC for the 'suits' was a huge pain. And really successful brands at the time got pushed aside. Google pushed aside Alta Vista, Sun pushed aside DEC, Compaq/Dell pushed aside the IBM PC, and Android phones at least have put a huge crimp in Apple's style.

Interesting to see how this evolves.
Just guessing here, but code generation is not allowed on iOS.
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So... they have a monopoly on the end of the market where there is money?

Why is this a distinction?
His emphasis on simplicity is welcome, but I'm not so sure I agree that simple hashes are the best choice for internal data representations. Exposing all the fields of any particular datatype to all clients seems to invite exactly the kind incidental "complecting" he decries.

Every non-trivial program is going to have to define abstract datatypes and I'm not sure how embedding and dispatching on a type tag in a hash is any better than using the more explicit support for dynamic dispatch you find in typical OO languages.

The real problem with most OO is that it mashes a lot of interdependent, mutable state together.
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> in most apps the UI code is 80-90% of the entire codebase

Not in my experience. I write software for large enterprises, mostly .NET glue between systems like SAP, e-commerce engines, search engines, databases, etc. The UI is a thin little layer on top of complex systems integrations. I'd say the UI code is 10 to 20% in most systems I've worked on.
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I like C, but you have to ask yourself why it's so rarely chosen for large-scale development. For instance, the Chrome team is certainly smart enough to write Chrome in C, but they chose C++. Why? Surely they understand the tradeoffs and the warts of C++ well enough to make an informed choice.
> Is it Apple's right to do this?

It should be.
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I am considering a move towards Pair myself. I am away from my girlfriend for the next five months or so and up to now we are only using Facebook messages, and I have growing concerns over privacy (Not that a move to Pair will solve them). But what is pushing me most towards Pair is that sometimes I go to Facebook just to message my girlfriend and it sort of drag me towards answering other messages and notifications and so on. Having an app just for your significant other is a huge plus.
It's great to hear that Microsoft intends to be accommodating. However, unless you can convince at least 5% of my mobile users to buy a Windows Phone it's going to be hard to justify the extra effort for a third app.

Personally, the idea of hardware-accelerated HTML5/JS apps makes my heart sing, so I'm really hoping it takes off with consumers. Maybe it'll be the best texting phone ever and every teenager in the world will swap. A dude can dream...
One could also argue that producing a better quality product at a lower price is anticompetitive. That's why I've never understood laws banning "anticompetitive behavior."
I'm talking specifically about mobile apps here. Most don't involve sophisticated processing or logic but need a very slick, polished UI.
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In terms of UX and as a consumer, I'd rather the Dropbox API not open a browser or even another app. That is not the best UX, it doesn't provide a security advantage, and it's simply not being done to benefit the consumer. This may not be Apple's primary rational for rejecting these apps, but I'm glad they're doing it.

As for the payment question, simply in terms of UX and as a consumer, I want only one payment provider and account on the device. I hate pulling my credit card out and remembering my password for the nth account.

Consumers are happy with the platform. Look at the sales numbers and earnings reports. Obviously companies like Dropbox see the value in the platform too -- I just wish they'd take the time to understand why it has that value, and why Apple has huge profits and very happy users.
I'm definitely not a FOSS zealot. However I might be a zealot for simplicity, lucidity, keeping code small, unclever and boring, making compilation quick and easy, not tolerating many of the annoyances so many folks routinely accept. I do not like "black boxes". Even if they work.

re: Skype I simply see no reason that something so essential, and so simple, as a P2P application (note the P2P application does not have to be tied to the VOIP application, or whatever applications you want to run over the P2P connection) needs to be a proprietary product.

It does need to work and work well. The P2P element does that. It will consistently work. It's the audio/video element that is difficult to get right across all connections in all environments.

Perhaps that's why you read some people saying Skype works great for them and other saying it doesn't work so great. Consider that in every case, the connection gets set up just fine. People can connect very easily. P2P is the easy part. It's the audio/video quality that varies. Because everyone's bandwidth situation is different.

Unfortunately there's a lot of chatter about NAT, IPv6, crytography, and other non-issues, which distracts people from focusing the real issue: codecs; making the audio/video element work smoothly over a variety of bandwidth scenarios. That's what everyone wants: clear sound and video.

If you do not fear the command line and want to see a proof of concept of how easy P2P is to set up, leave some way for me to contact you.
As I understand it Dropbox can work around the issue by presenting a plain login form (without any links) to its iOS users.
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"But wait, you're a unique snowflake and your problem is SO different that it's ok for you to do one of these three. No you aren't and no it really isn't. Trust me."

I feel like this article is making a large number of assumptions about the problem I am trying to solve.
I'm usually inclined to believe Apple has some good reasons for doing what they do but this seems like it's crossing the line. The built-in functionality of iOS and the Apple ecosystem is fantastic, and it's understandable they are given precedence, but if they are to so severely limit third party applications access to alternative services it would make iOS practically unusable for anyone outside of the Apple ecosystem. As much as I like iOS I really can't continue using it if I am unable to access DropBox in applications especially since there's no easy way to simply download the file from DropBox and edit it locally. Hopefully someone at Apple realizes this pretty much kills their platform. Cloud storage of different types are only going to become more important. (benefit of the doubt: Perhaps iOS6 has either DropBox integration or some other cloud storage abstraction and Apple wants to start discouraging developers from using a deprecated method of accessing DropBox. If so they should just come out and say it.)
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