skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> ... this seems worse than the original restrictions.

This is worse from the original restrictions _specifically_ because the original restrictions were chosen to simplify from this sort of scenario.

If Apple says all app purchases and purchases of digital goods/services within the app are subject to the 15/30%, and those payments are always made through Apple, then Apple can check for non-compliance with the contract terms up-front (via App Store review) and then there are no separate books to audit, there is no commingling of revenue from in-app purchases vs independent web purchases or purchases made on other platforms, and so on. No need to audit the company's books, because they are using Apple's books.

It is hard to take Apple to task for charging too much, because the 30% ceiling and who pays it has effectively been the same since day 1 of the App Store. They have only created special cases to reduce that percentage (small business program, multi-year subscriptions).

Regulators can say that you can't block other companies from the "iPhone in-app payment for digital goods" market without being anti-competitive, but it is much more onerous to force a company to continue to provide a set of services (maintaining developer tools and SDKs, reviewing and signing binaries, providing backward compatibility in new OS versions) but for a fee schedule determined by regulators.

> Taking a commission from a company that’s already paying for payment processing can’t possibly be seen as reasonable.

Why not?

There's a decades-running assumption by some that Apple was a ridiculously expensive payment processor, only existing because they gave you no other choice than to use them for certain things (and outright forbade you from using them for others).

But Apple provides other services and access to developers per a financial agreement, and was doing payment processing to meter the revenue split.

The regulator argument is that Apple is blocking other companies from taking in-app revenue for digital services. Apple has now split that out in a few markets for companies willing to take on such complexity.

IMHO the only apps I think actually have benefited from the split are dating apps in the Netherlands - because quite frankly the way many dating services charge people is user hostile and/or discriminatory.
Now they are free to do a business with organic growth or anything else they like, that doesn't have the aim of being sold at the end.
Sure. The requirement of consent is still not necessarily always ethical.
your argument is that it's not infringing because they copied everything at once?

I get that there's case law on copying in memory on the input side not being infringing but can't for the life of me understand how they get away with not paying for it. At least libraries buy the books before loaning them out, OpenAI and midjourney presumably pirated the works or otherwise ignored the license of published works and just say "if we found it on the internet it's fair game"
That’s a naive and insidious line of reasoning. Free art and code should stay that way. Any company making a profit off of it through LLMs is unethical. It’s the opposite of open source.
> obviously

It’s not obvious to me at all, I had to think pretty hard about it.
Don’t forget the kicker, that IAP at the time was unable to support more than a few thousand SKUs! And (iirc) that pricing, naming, etc for everything would’ve needed to be done through their atrocious web app.

Not exactly doable for the ‘everything store’.
> And I'd say the fact so many people in this very thread don't understand it is exactly the proof that the GPs comment actually has some merit.

Finally someone noticed the irony, thank you.

(On the other hand, at least some people also criticize my tone rather than the point I'm making, which I guess is fair as well.)
not really though. In the real world you can see the results of action over time. So, if you stop simulating what the user is observing, when they actually do observer it later, you're required to run the entire simulation to get that observed part of the world back to the state it should be in after time passed. That includes the influence of the butterfly on the other side of the world. It effectively adds up to computing the entire thing.

To take a semi-long term example. If you go carve your name in a tree, when you come back 50 years later it better show your name distorted over those 50 years. If you cut open the tree. It better show a record of every weather event over those 50 years. Every piece of the world you inspect will need the simulation run and not just for it but for all the things that affected it and all the things that affected the things that affected it etc etc recursively until you've simulated every in the universe.
Isn’t self-hosting a dns server kind off pointless if you are the only user? Like doesn’t that make you unique to tracking?
> Why do you get to run a business off it for free?

So Microsoft did all of this on Windows (or Apple itself for that matter for macOS) due to entirely altruistic reasons?

Also platforms need developers a whole lot more than developers need specific platforms. You can always go and works at a bank or something. Apple would be skewed with no 3-rd party developers they always knew it.

> They’re also operating all the servers. Your $100 does not cover it. It’s a symbiotic relationship.

Maybe the ads on the app store would more than cover it? Not only do you need to pay 30% you also have to pay extra for placement so that Apple wouldn’t put your competitors apps at the top of the results when users search for your app?
Oh, lol, I totally forgot about those technical limitations! We couldn't even have done it if we wanted to.

Also hi :) long time!
> but it may prevent some other optimizations.

I see this mentioned a few times in this thread, but I haven't experienced this in practice (and I've written a lot of unsafe in Java). Are there any examples of this?
Wow… well I'm of the opinion that folk who believe my consent is morally not so important should go back to kindergarten for a refresher course on playing nice with others.
I think you made dupes
Yeah I agree, as a layperson with the ability to google 5 minutes and have my own priors I can reach the same conclusion.

What I'm saying OTOH is that I have no way to know whether you have some more insightful things to say about this since you just called bullshit without any further details. I hoped you had more details
In university I learned that every integer is interesting. Proof: If there are non-interesting integers, there must be a smallest non-interesting integer, which is an interesting property. ■
It’s clear that countries are going to need to legislate this. Existing anti-trust laws are insufficient.
Just listen to a couple hours or Warren buffet and Charlie Munger, it'll cure that and then you can focus on your golf game.
> The population of Germany and Poland alone pushes the number of people directly at risk of Russian aggression over 100 million.

You think there's a serious risk of a Russian tank column making it to Frankfurt? Lol. Lmao even.

> As of 2024, nobody takes that seriously anymore. Russians too have recognized ineffectiveness of that narrative and have stopped pushing it.

If no-one takes it seriously that's because no-one expects western countries to be principled any more. The language laws are real.

> Indeed. Only a severely brainwashed person would put Russia anywhere near Finland or Sweden when it comes to human rights.

Sure. Finland and Sweden have much better human rights records than Russia, agreed. But they're not the countries that rely on the US nuclear umbrella for defence (joining NATO is not the same thing as being dependent on it); the countries that do have rather murkier records.
> that's blocking you from installing any apps or updates

Technically that’s the app developers who do that.
> the error depends on the goal you need to reach, and if the goal constantly changes, I and D are kinda useless...

Why do you think that? the error is the difference between actual and desired at every instant. If you move the desired then you enlarge the error term and PID reacts to close that gap, it might never reach if you are changing the goal too fast but that's something related to the concept of "bandwidth". OTherwise you are quite right and all is OK.

If you have multiple axes then the typical solution is to have n PID loops for n axes. This assumes that the dynamics of the system is decoupled. In english, if I do something in one axis it will not affect the other axes. Then you can tune the PID loops independently. Otherwise, dry math.
The irony...

I did this. I cashed out in my 20s, bought a $2m home in the middle of nowhere (that goes a long way out here), and live out my days in my workshop surrounded by singing birds, bees, wildlife, trees and gardens, with views across lakes and plains.

And some cosmopolitan wants to tell me, as they cram another million people into gridlocked high-rises in their smoggy grey hellhole, that we in the country are bad for the environment? Or that the soulless crowds you have to navigate through every morning and evening are friendlier than the neighbours and strangers who wave and chat everywhere I go?

If you're able, get out of the cities. Especially if you have children. You have no idea what you're missing.
What makes you believe the opposition is any less corrupt than the Tories?
Right ! And Paseo for steps counting is quite good for my needs too
Healthcare, family, culture, food, international airports
Would you pay a drunk rich person $99/year, so that you can publish a community newsletter to your local town or sell custom decals to your state's car enthusiasts club?
Who then randomly decrees your newsletter is not allowed, forgets why, then slurs THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER and bans you yelling "I'm everybody safe, keeping!"

In this case, who exactly are they protecting, the townsfolk or car enthusiasts that you have an independent relationship with?

Would this scenario seem like a good idea to agree to? If no, why is the app store/walled garden model an appropriate use case at all/how is it substantially different?
> I'm not saying the App Store is infrastructure-like.

It is infrastructure-like. Try to live in modern society without a smartphone. It will be very difficult. Not impossible, but much less convenient.
Well, certainly.

Externalising the cost on users means the company doesn't have to pay it.

Developers are expensive after all, and there's no material loss for slack (except negative sentiment like this) - ultimately: you still use (and pay) for the software, so why should they care?
Show HN: ChatGPT and Google in your Chrome home
I rather like the idea of the late Terrance McKenna, that psychedelic spores are interstellar bearers of messages for conscious beings. Alien engineered artifacts, if you will.
Yes the explanation is diffraction. As light passes through a lens, diffraction acts in similar way as a light through a small pinhole. Incidentally, pinholes and apertures are low pass filters.

Some more info here

Miles V. Klein, Thomas E. Furtak - Optics 2nd ed, Wiley

Joseph W. Goodman - Introduction to Fourier optics, W.H. Freeman
Pretty much every VC backed startup for the past 15 years uses that model. Startup success is in a large amount "who can use internet ads the best".
Making biochar is just heating bio-waste in a container to high temperature, but to not let it actually burn. Like making charcoal, but slightly smaller temperature. Biochar - bio-charcoal.
Did you read the books with the intent to incorporate their ideas into your head and profit of this?
Hmm, shouldn't the more shady side be the same in practical scenarios (like not going the other way around the globe, etc)?
In retrospect, yes, the consequences of what happened are now very obvious, but at the time, whilst there were a fair number of people sounding the alarm across the blogosphere, most people didn't care because the iPad was a hit, and the Apple reality distortion field was at its peak of effectiveness.
> The servers do not cost 30% of all sales on the platform. Not even close.

Specifically, the transfer cost to download a 50MB app is approximately $0.0005. That's 200,000 downloads per $100. Even assuming a low average revenue of $1 per download, that's a $60,000 take for Apple for maybe $105 worth of hosting.

That's not to say there aren't other costs involved in running the store. But we definitely shouldn't be pretending that hosting is even relevant to the conversation. Hosting costs haven't been relevant for over a decade.
Totally, you do you.

I love the movie birdman, on the topic.
Most likely those running the Android and ChromeOS distributions, and WSL.
Perf impact due to bounds checks can be experienced in statically compiled languages as well (like Go/Rust). Although branch predictor improvements likely narrow the gap, they do not eliminate it.

Code cache is not completely relevant afaik - you can easily replicate in micro-benchmarks.
Interesting because the sun rises and sets from the north (NE, NW) during the summer in the northern hemisphere. The effect is more pronounced the farther north of the equator you are and Germany is quite far north.
I stopped getting any ad-block prevention warnings from YouTube a while ago anyways, I guess maybe uBlock has had some update?
Is it still a problem for some people?
It's interesting; most of Patrick's writing I find unnecessarily tedious to parse, regardless of substance of content. This one really clicked and easily is one of my favorite CwT episodes full of insightful answers.
I hope the idea of Intellectual Property as a whole is thrown out the window and copyright with it.
Perhaps the stance to take is that it was bad for consumers in the long-term, because monopolies aren't a good thing.
> The first iPhone was a marvel to pretty much everyone

IIRC its sales figures weren’t that great though. Of course from Apple’s perspective it was more of a prototype than the actual final product.

> Just being able to use a lot of the web like you would on a computer was a massive leap from a RAZR

IMHO not having 3G basically turned it into a toy.. also comparing it to a consumer flip-phones isn’t that fair. You you had touschscreen/stylus “smartphones” from SonyEricsson, Nokia etc. which weren’t that awful at the time (of course the UX was inferior after it actually became possible to the internet on your iPhone when the 3G was released).
Here you can find a lot of alternatives:
https://alternativeto.net/software/keypirinha/

The only one on the list that I heard good things about is ueli, but I haven't tried it myself
> Apple has not chosen to re-enter a business relationship with Epic, and has rejected Epic’s offers to do business with them. It’s a simple as that.

Apple's public comments to the point have been that Epic is free to resume publishing under the developer program if they abide by the developer agreement, and Epic's CEO has stated they have no intention to do so.

Agreeing to the program terms would seem to put them in a position where they can either argue they have standing or that they have been caused harm, but not both.
It can forward queries over TLS or HTTPS to another public DNS server and act as a caching server for all programs on your internal network.
> Targeted for interventions

Someone needs to brush up on their ho3_m4th

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE
> You want to do distribution or payment processing? Take care of it yourself.

Yes! That's exactly what everyone wants.

> Joe the indie developer instead is dead in the water.

No, Joe the indie developer will happily use one of the most popular alternative app stores that fits their needs and doesn't rip them off with fees.
It's all so tiresome. Just write these parts in Rust already.
Society literally only exists because of collaboration between "nice" people
The argument is that trying to make more restrictive IP laws only benefits large corporations. Therefore the question is "only corporations have AI" or "everybody has AI".

For the former, once the contributors have been paid, all of the capitalist-related issues that come with AI will still happen, just worse. More generally, the issues of artificial scarcity get worse as well, since now the models are no longer an abundant resource, but one controlled and restricted for profit.

Unless the answer is just "I don't care if future people get screwed over, I just want to be paid once/receive pennies in royalty".

Using your analogy, it's like minimum wage laws prevented open source software from existing because contributors need to be paid minimum wage.
And, inspired by that: "On Exactitude in Science", Jorge Luis Borges

…In that Empire, the Art of Cartography attained such Perfection that the map of a single Province occupied the entirety of a City, and the map of the Empire, the entirety of a Province. In time, those Unconscionable Maps no longer satisfied, and the Cartographers Guilds struck a Map of the Empire whose size was that of the Empire, and which coincided point for point with it. The following Generations, who were not so fond of the Study of Cartography as their Forebears had been, saw that that vast Map was Useless, and not without some Pitilessness was it, that they delivered it up to the Inclemencies of Sun and Winters. In the Deserts of the West, still today, there are Tattered Ruins of that Map, inhabited by Animals and Beggars; in all the Land there is no other Relic of the Disciplines of Geography.

— Suarez Miranda, Viajes de varones prudentes, Libro IV,Cap. XLV, Lerida, 1658
They are a hardware company.
By the same token, can you imagine a car company controlling the fuel you put in your car, the tires you buy, the repair shops you use, the radio stations you can listen to?
Yes, the page is rendered remotely in Firefox and turned into text transmitted over SSH.
Isn't it XCode that blocks you from developing for older versions at some point?
Loved the name!
They are equally strict about the window blinds in Europe.

I don't travel enough on other airlines to make generalisations.
I'm in my 50s now and emigrated, but as a Norwegian child growing up in Oslo/Fredrikstad (both bokmål districts) I absolutely loathed the forced Nynorsk classes in the 80s/early 90s.

It absolutely felt as a political box ticking exercise, and a complete waste of time - I readily observed that people were struggling enough with bokmål as it was.

Never had a single use for it after leaving school.

As for the dialects, 100% agree
- they are very very different indeed.
The first two paragraphs of the Wikipedia article [1] are enough to hint that capitalism is not necessarily about free markets. Many capitalists would like to have a monopoly on the market they are in or make the rules of the market. Only a few succeed. Apple mostly succeeded especially if we think that one of markets they are in is selling iOS apps developed by third parties.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
In a world of unicorns and rainbows, absolutely. In the real world, it's as you probably already know: it's not that easy in a complex enough system.

Quick counter-example for GP: what if the 500 spike is due to a spike in malformed requests from a single (maybe malicious) user?
And one still cannot in 2024 ;). Almost all red-eye flights go from east to west. There are none from Paris to NYC. There are some from America's west coast to Asia though, because those are super long flights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-eye_flight
Nitpicking I know - but "reverse numerals" weren't a Danishism at all. That's all from Old Norse. Also remember that the vast majority of spoken Norwegian wasn't affected by Danish at all, and that included the "reverse numerals" which have survived all over Norway. As was mentioned in another comment, the switch to non-reversal numbers was something introduced in order to support phone operators, who could then just enter the digits as they are spoken and not wait for the next word. In any case, as it's an original feature of Norwegian (Danish has its own variety of course.. with its own quirks) it's still fairly alive and well among a large patch of Norwegians.
What would the suit entail? That Apple is giving a new option where they charge less than the previously agreed upon percentage?
We are talking early retirement here, so presumably young enough to still have a family.

Daycare in my area is ~2400 a month (not the super fancy daycares either, they are over 3k a month). If you want to fully fund a 529 college fund, that is 30k a year for 15 years[1].

So right off the bat we have 50k a year in expenses for having a single kid, not counting feeding them and other activities. If you choose public school, then that number drops after the kid is 5, but if you want a private school that is 15k-35k a year.

tl;dr 2 million in the bank isn't enough to raise a single kid w/o supplementary income.

If you retire early you'll have to pay for your own health insurance, a Platinum plan is ~700 a month, not counting any other expenses that you have to pay. 7k a year right there.

Cars cost $ to purchase and maintain. If you retire in Manhattan you can get away with not having a car, maybe Boston if you are lucky. Most other US cities require a car and that is going to average around 10k a year, assuming you have a mid-range car and that somehow you don't need to buy a new car during your retirement.

If all you do is shop at Costco (perfectly doable!) you'll be able to keep food costs down, although you'll have to spend the time and money driving to a Costco.

Outside of Costco, I'm paying around $200-$300 a week for groceries for 3 people. I found this lovely quote

> As far as specific food items go, a dozen eggs and a pound of apples in Seattle costs $3.54 and $2.71, respectively.

Which, while written in August of 2023, is already horribly out of date. (For whatever reason eggs got super expensive recently...)

Figure 1k a month for food, if you never go out to eat, ever. Also no drinking alcohol of any type, that'll blow the budget.

So we are up to 29K a year in expenses so far, just eating and driving around.

No gym membership, no sports or hobbies, no vacations. No streaming services, no cable TV, no internet, no utilities, etc.

Figure another 1k a month for those things and you are now spending 41k a year.

Assuming no kids and a paid off house, 80k is livable, but it'll be somewhat bare bones for a person who "retired with millions in the bank".

Which is kind of messed up, when I graduated college 80k was a really good lifestyle, but inflation did its thing, and so did the rising CoL in Seattle.

[1] The absurd price of college is a huge expense for parents who don't want their kids to be stuck with lots of debt. Having to pony up 30k a year is an obscene necessity driven by the horrid cost of a college degree in America.
This is why I love self checkout, I find chatty customers in front of me to be immensely frustrating when I just want to get my shopping done.

Other irritants are the ones who watch the cashier scan every item and waiting to pay before they even think of clearing their items from the conveyor thing, so you have to wait for them to mess around putting their wallet away, then get out their shopping bag and start packing
the gallery site is amazing in and of itself. the gallery isn't PNGs or GIFs - it's generated in the browser from the emulator state. if you hover over an item it resumes the emulator.

https://mastodon.me.uk/@bbcmicrobot/111760484438439751
Even good lawyers will work pro bono sometimes.

Most likely at a much higher (real) marginal cost than a salaried software dev.