skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>Nino is a radical approach to solve the app chaos problem for today's knowledge worker ... I'm building all these apps from scratch in one place, using the same database and UI, with the flexibility to support the majority of work from one "superapp eventually."

Maybe I can see some use-case for personal use (big maybe), but right off the bat, you can't use this at any company (small startup or enterprise), for several reasons: Lack of functionality, lack of organization-based group and access control workflows, auditing, user provisioning/de-provisioning, lack of cross-organization document sharing and collaboration and compatibility, plugin support, email integration, domain hosting, etc. etc.

I'm not even sure a motivated individual contractor could use this professionally due to the need to collaborate with their customers. I'm not even sure you could dog-food this while managing Nino Inc.

>Nino is one (super)app that supports 18 modules, saving you time from switching and integrating between different providers.

Is that even a real problem?

Most places will use either Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace - those platforms are very well integrated internally. MS365 has all the apps you built except they are feature-rich and some are industry standards (like the Office suite), plus much more - and everything is very well integrated.

But that isn't enough. Sometimes users may prefer, for example, Confluence as a wiki instead of the MS365 Sharepoint wiki - the reason why is because they want to choose a 'best of breed' solution for their use case .. or it may just be a subjective preference. In that case, yes, the integration isn't as great but it is workable (there are plugins to allow deeper integration of external applications). Your solution won't be able to get away from that either. Even if I like your Todo and Notebook apps, I may prefer using Zoom for conference calls and Slack for chat .. what happens then?
Agreed. I like Mozilla but this social app looks like Twitter but with less content. Tumblr or Instagram are better options.
You act as though Safari doesn't have a significant market presence. Also, Microsoft developed new web technologies and then patented them - preventing their competitors from using them. All of Microsoft's development tools of course used those new technologies and therefore required the web site visitor to use IE.

The situation today with Google is markedly different.
There's really no such thing as apolitical media. "Apolitical", escapist entertainment assumes a default political context (in the USA, white-normative and cisheteronormative). Not having the politics of the day affect you on a deep personal level is a luxury of privilege. For the marginalized, politics reaches out and touches them whether they want it or not.
What's your business model? Everything seems "free" so far.
It's effectively a closed cycle, just using the atmosphere as a buffer.
Well written informative article.

What does it say about this whole domain when, as the author says, Web Apps and Sites/Blogs (also add in Mobile apps) are so very different from each other using a myriad set of technologies each of which has a learning curve? Where is the uniformity and commonality in all this? Why are developers even perpetuating this?

That said, this might be a good place to ask for recommendations for study since i am not a "Web Developer";

1) Comprehensive books/other sources on full-stack Web App and Site development. Bonus points if they use a single language for frontend/backend/everything else.

2) The same as above but using C/C++ languages.
What is the tech stack you've used this for ?
Is this idea the progenitor of SoCs?
Sorry for little off top - do you have tested by any chance 7940HS against stable diffusion? How does it perform?
Thoughts on Dune Director Denis Replacing 'Jihad' with 'Crusade'?
it's ... spectacular ...
I'd challenge this argument in regards to Vietnam. I don't think the issue is that war is hard, but rather that we keep trying to attack motivated local populations. I'm sure you're aware of the old quote that, to my knowledge, originated during the Civil War about it being "a rich man's war, and a poor man's fight." And that was absolutely true. Without conscription (which the elites were of course able to sidestep), it would have been a far less brutal war. It was people who didn't want to be fighting, fighting against people who didn't want to be fighting.

In general when fighting an enemy does not want to be fighting but is being compelled to do so, I think that opens the door to a real and meaningful victory. But when you're fighting against groups of people, often with a very flat organizational structure, who blend seamlessly with the local population (in no small part because they are the local population), and who want to be fighting you? I think victory there is near to impossible.

This is how Afghanistan, a country with the GDP of a mid-sized town in a modern nation, has defeated not only the USA but also the USSR. In terms of results, they are the most powerful fighting force in the world. But the issue when fighting them is that you don't know who you're fighting. This makes ground operations near to impossible, and sends civilian casualties skyrocketing, which creates even more motivated fighters. You kill one Taliban and create 3 more.

And furthermore, these people aren't going anywhere because it's their home. For them, the conflict is a matter of their very existence. They'll fight you for decades until they die, then their children will fight you, and so on endlessly. By contrast, we're fighting with motivations like trying to avoid geopolitical embarrassment, literally. One of the leaks in the Pentagon Papers included a memo laying out our motivations. And the primary motivation, at 70%, was "To avoid a humiliating U.S. defeat (to our reputation as a guarantor)." [1]

Even if you imagine America somehow was able to "win" in Vietnam, you end up with an Afghanistan issue. What now? You can't just maintain millions of soldiers there indefinitely. And if the people you support are only able to stay in power because of those millions of soldiers, then it may turn out that the "war" you just won was merely a battle in in the real "war."

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers#Impact
Some thoughts while installing this in order to test (and trying to find the pricing page): I believe putting interoperability first is the right idea, and we have barely begun to scratch the surface of opportunities in this area. The browser based technologies can gain an upper hand here because of the platform independence and reusability of technologies across functionalities.

That said, there is an enormous amount of work required to match the functionalities of legacy programs: interoperability itself is probably not enough to compete with these. I believe the most viable route is some sort of open source solution. The amount of VC financing would likely need to be staggering for a solution like this to gain any major traction.

(That is, unless an LLM can be made to produce the whole thing over a weekend at some point in the near future ...)
Do keep in mind that a comparison like that doesn’t suppose the null case, where someone dusts their own home for free, loads the dishwasher, and trains the kid AI to clean up their own messes with thoughtfully deployed apple-sauce-snack-based positive reenforcement training.

I do agree these tasks don’t demand AGI. I don’t really want my “robot that walks around and does 11$ worth of tasks I don’t want to deal with” to feel emotions.
+1 but even Boston Dynamics stuff is too fancy and animal shaped. Here is a great example of utilitarian robot design that looks much cheaper and more efficient than bi/quadrupeds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7AcAWWxyI
The example ELIZA responses in the paper are so laughably bad and trivial to pick up, I'm not convinced the human interrogators were sober/conscious/awake during the experiment.
> The case centres on Yuekang Li's visa application to study at the University of Waterloo and take his knowledge back to China to improve its public health system.

Isn’t that the whole point of sending students on exchange?
In mice. Maybe we could add that to the title of postings of such articles.
>Simple line. Let’s not open yet another ecosystem up to mining. It hasn’t gone well for the others.

That would only make sense if we sanctioned every other country for opening/expanding land mines, but that's not a practical proposal. Otherwise the justification seems awfully flimsy and arbitrary. Why is it not okay to disrupt deep sea ecosystems, but it's fine to disrupt land based ecosystems? Is the logic is that because Rhinos (or whatever other land animals) are already endangered, it's fine to drive them further into extinction?
https://archive.is/q5pQV
+1 to this. Focusing on usecases would be great. ex: I wanted to see what features were available for your sheets module.

Was willing to spend 5 minutes on a walk. Tried the web app - ios safari is not supported :( downloaded the ios app and registered. Got a totally blank app - no onboarding, no template / samples, no obvious way to import from my existing google sheets to see how things scaled. I added a datasource and a few fields (which felt confusing) and my walk was over.
Does a program have to do things? What can it do? What does a human have to/can do?
4 legs better than 2... Or maybe tracks. And why only 2 hands? Why human like grips? And not chuck with changeable tools?

Humans are pretty bad design, you could make something simpler and more efficient. And probably not trade too much surface area.
I honestly can't think of any reason for the one-size-fits-all RSS reader to be in the core functionality of a browser. Extensions seem to be better suited for this purpose, and indeed there are several RSS extensions available for Firefox.
Oh my, may I remind folks about SDI vs MDI https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-document_interface

Or the window-is-application/process (Windows, Linux DEs) vs window-is-document-and-application-is-independent (MacOS) models

Or spatial navigation vs file browser.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_police_overseas_servic...
I'm a big fan of Julia Evans[1] who's made a number of useful toys including ones for DNS here[2] and here[3].

- [1] https://jvns.ca/

- [2] https://dns-lookup.jvns.ca/

- [3] https://messwithdns.net/
What are the pros/cons of this over firebase?
>I believe putting interoperability first is the right idea, and we have barely begun to scratch the surface of opportunities in this area.

Is it really 'interoperability' if it cannot integrate with any external applications?
I have a few IMST400's and IMST425's sitting in a drawer waiting for inspiration to strike for a cool project to use them in, one day. Pulled from some mid 90's ISDN test equipment. These keep getting mentioned here on HN and every time I'm reminded I have these sitting here waiting for me to learn more about them.

It's a very interesting architecture. Sifting thru the datasheets is daunting stuff.
Learning NLP: Text Similarity Analysis
It is mind-boggling, but remember, still to this day, engineers are controlled/bossed by non-scientific people. Some will argue that upper management doesn't have to be educated in the fields they control/manage. Tell that to the families of the victims.
> it shouldn't be a tiny handful of people running the whole show and that this reality should be obvious to everyone

The more experienced I get, the more I'm convinced the "this should(n't) be obvious" part is the main differentiator between the American and the Chinese system
1. _Material_ licensing fees for use of protected content. NYT will have grounds for punitive damages (over 100K per work per infringing use), enough money to make OpenAI and even Microsoft come to the negotiating table.

2. Open door for everyone else whose content has been copied to demand payment.

3. Japan aside*, I'm not sure how a decisive victory for NYT fails to affect companies in other countries. Other countries will certainly take a US opinion into account. Furthermore, nothing whatsoever would prevent NYT from suing for infringement in France, Germany, etc.

A number of European countries are _much_ more comfortable with compulsory licensing than the US is.** I will not be surprised at all if Germany, Denmark, Sweden etc impose an AI-training license that companies have to pay to train or even use AI models. Could be based on employees, users, revenue, etc. They've been doing this for decades for other forms of mechanical reproduction, so it seems a reasonable path forward.

* I've seen reports that Japan has declared that it will not enforce copyright against organizations for training models on copyright-protected works. I don't know whether this means that _everything_ is fair game in Japan-- it could mean that training won't be enforced, but commercial use of models trained on protected works could be. I think it's somewhat harder to argue against training a model than it is against leveraging a trained model for commercial purposes.

** AFAIK, the only use for compulsory licensing in the US is musical performance.

4. "Surely one can't get licenses"... collective licensing would be a path forward for which there's a little more history in the US than there is for compulsory licensing. In a collective licensing model, OpenAI/Microsoft/Company X would be able to purchase a license priced by revenue/employees/users etc, and funds would be distributed to participating copyright holders.

For that to work, you need some kind of agency that has a ton of significant copyright holders. If some agency were able to get to a critical mass , that could happen without Congressional action.

Congress could also step into the problem in a couple of ways. They could wave a wand and make the problem go away for OpenAI/Microsoft/everyone else, or they could explicitly require some kind of license. I'd be shocked if Congress handled this productively _at all_; these issues are incredibly fraught in the best of times, Congress has been terrible for years at any kind of precise technical work, and the current Congress is uniquely incompetent.

I expect that if Congress accomplishes anything on this topic in the next couple of years, it will turn out to be awful for everyone.
Rich Hickey is a founder, not a developer and regardless he is motivated by pain-minimization in the context of money making: "I had had enough!" [of manufactured complexity in commercial development] — his paper
> In Nino, pages and blocks are interoperable with each other

what does a "block" mean in this context?
I wish there were a better way to find conferences. If I hear about one it's usually because it just happened and I missed it.
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/17/1170571626/fbi-arrests-2-on-c...

These are very common. The NYPD and FBI have just now starting busting them up.
Isn't Earth sacred in some religions too?
Wasn't SBAITSO pretty much the same idea as Eliza, only using speech synthesis with a Soundblaster?
Does anyone know if zork is compiled to another language that is easily runnable in a local environment?
Missing robots.txt does not automatically grant you the right to use copyrighted content.
An LLM cannot do a lot of things out of the box, and OpenAI has more than a few processing layers already. They certainly already modify output based on verboten topics. Personally I feel any decent LLM should be able to attribute its sources even when not a direct quote, because that raises the bar that much higher on its trustworthiness and general value.
There's a _lot_ of evidence that LLM's _do_ generalize, though.
The Physics of Sailing [video]
CO2 is also a greenhouse gas and makes our atmosphere store much more energy than it used to which destabilizes ecosystems in which those plants you want to grow bigger actually live. So yeah, they’ll grow faster, and then they’ll all die.

The rest of your argument is orthogonal to the issue. Taking CO2 out of the atmosphere works globally, it doesn’t matter who does or doesn’t reduce emissions.
One reason could be that they train the robot by looking at a human. Then they point a camera at the robot when they perform the task. So if the robot looks like a human, then it is easier to copy the movements of the human. Perhaps. Just guessing. I haven't read the article because I dislike the format.
Hunter Biden’s drug use is then unimportant, right?

Did we forget that Jared Kushner couldn’t get a security clearance because of his financial black hole?
Gee whiz, the scope of features is super impressive at such an early stage. It's a very unusual experience to be able to integrate pretty much any object in one module into another module - a big conceptual shift.

Can I suggest you include a dummy workspace in each user's account demonstrating the product to its full potential? Or at least give me an option when creating a workspace to make it into a demo. This might not only benefit the user, but you too, as you'll have to think about the purpose of the product and how it can be leveraged in a business context.

Good luck.
The Canadian news media tried this with facebook. Ended up with them crying about how they lost all the ad dollars from traffic from FB when FB said fuck off.
> They engage in analytic and synthetic knowledge.

they're not hallucinations now, they're "synthetic knowledge"

like microsoft's hilarious remarketing of bullshit as "usefully wrong"

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/worklab/what-we-mean-when-we...
Impact also bent the tip enough to make it impractical to throw it back.
It would help because we have too much CO2 in atmosphere now. It accumulated. If we stopped putting CO2, plants and all the other earth chemical loops would take out that excess carbon.

> CO2 feeds plants to grow, which in turn provides more food and habitat for more life.

Yeah, unless they can't synthesize it because it's too hot and they didn't had a chance to adjust to new temperatures yet. It takes some time and will happen, but we pump CO2 a little too fast.

> In this scenario with China doing the opposite to the rest of the world, there are exactly zero gains for CO2 reduction - far outweighed by the increase in CO2 production.

Oh yeah, someone litters on the street, let's all litter and get rid of the trash cans. Alternative solution: we should stop buying from them so they will not generate that co2.
If you ask that, may I ask:

What is the purpose of laws at all if humans aren't special?

> If something takes in information, learns from it, and spits out information as a result of its learning, then why does the implementation matter at all?

Yeah, so who cares if the implementation is human and if that implementation breaks?

I really don't want to troll you, I believe it is worth it to point out the absurdity of the "humans aren't special" argument this way.

Humans are not machines and machines don't have human rights.
Gifted Children, by Leta Hollingworth (1926)
Musk is not an employee.
Book by the founder of the field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leta_Stetter_Hollingworth
Humans are a pretty good design for a multi-cellular organism that uses energy as efficiently as possible to breed as much as possible.

Definitely not the most profitable venture for a robotics company though, unless they’re in the robot porn industry.
He originally made the argument about gender, not intelligence. I think he was arguing for a whole class of properties for which there's no difference between authenticity and convincing fakery.

I think the point is less that there is a truth and we're too dumb to figure it out, and more that in certain circumstances we'll just have to accept a lower bar for evidence about whether those properties apply.

It reminds me of how no class of computer can solve the halting problem for itself. No matter how intelligent you are, there will be holes like this in your certainty about some things.
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WRONG.

The moment Elon denies doing cocaine, he is then subject to blackmail. Everyone on the board knows he does hard drugs, so now he can be exploited.

It’s that simple.

If I know you’re lying, I can manipulate you.
Actually I only had a partial file :/ didn't realise that the file in the data folder was only a sample
Such an americentric take... as if Boeing only had to deal with FAA only. You completely forgot about other regulatory bodies. How was Boeing supposed to sway EU bodies, for example? Once you realize there's more of those, your conspiracy theory ends up in shambles.
Yes. I'm surprised to hear Eliza passed a turing test. SBAITSO was fun but pretty clearly not a human.
It could go either way. Since others have laid out why it might benefit other countries, I'll lay out why it might benefit the US, from the perspective of an ML researcher since long before the hype arrived.

AI is only useful in so far as it's grounded in reality. If you ask it how tall the empire state building is, the answer has to be in some way derived from how tall it really is. Even creative writing is only useful in so far as how it's grounded in real life human experience. This is all to say that a bunch of people need to keep writing stuff about the real world for models to keep up with the real world.

I'd say the ideal scenario for US AI development is:

1) People keep making high quality data grounded in real world USA

2) That data is easily accessible for research purposes

3) That data is usable for commercial purposes (but might require more work than for research purposes)

A ruling for NYT here might keep good data more widely produced and available. Research legality is almost surely not going to be affected, so keeping data produced and available is key to keeping domestic research going strong and keeping talent here.

A ruling against NYT might mean all the new grounded-in-reality data goes behind closed doors. And even though the legality of research isn't in question, that would make the research harder. It would be easier to commercially use what you can find, but it could be garbage-in-garbage-out in the sense of quality data becoming hidden.
Agreed.

Where it mattered for me was on an ARM core managing a much larger DSP. The DSP consumed most of the memory bandwidth, so fetching a cacheline of instructions or an MMU mapping into the ARM had long and variable latency as it had to wait for the DSP to finish a large burst to or from the shared memory.
I still think you're getting too far into the weeds here. If we decide that a certain kind of usage of software shouldn't be considered acceptable, then we could sue the user who used it, or the developers who created it, or something. I don't see why software personhood is the only resolution here.
People also misremember things with no intent, yet they are still considered as lies. I understand AI is not a human, but classifying a hallucination a lie seems reasonable to me.
AFAICS the main problem is that <string> pulls in a lot of dependencies.
> The correct solution is to make the model capable of...

Could be true for the people who want the generative AI technology to exist. But,

> A model that possesses the entire collective knowledge of our civilization is useless...

that could be just exactly what a lot of people would like to happen.
I didn’t think of that point! That’s worth mentioning. I wish we knew more about the video training method they mention.
Isn't an Inmarsat phone with antenna, like, 8x heavier and 4x more expensive than a not-very-fancy 5G smartphone? A SMS limited to 160 characters for half a dollar?

Standard 5G is a lot more efficient. The difference seems to me at least the same as between a steam train and an electric train.