skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
EU just wants to regulate everything. Recent ai regulations are very bad. Purposefully nerfing yourself at the technology front isn't a solution.
Related:

How to Lose a Library - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38657830 - Dec 2023 (21 comments)
Poison works by being able to scale its impact dramatically: attacking chemical cornerstone processes, disabling a receptor, etc.

ML is, to simplify, a statistical process that tries to identify probability distributions. That implies they’d have to purposefully degrade large amounts of images that the system has access to. Unless those images are impossible to distinguish from the others (because, say, they come from the same sites) I’m not sure how they’d do it consistently.

They could mark sources, by using an unused combination of keywords and having a unique image attached to it, but poisoning—at scale? I’m not seeing a stable equilibrium where that’s possible.
And multiple discussions here too (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=fal...):

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38356768

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38430831
> Firefox uses Gecko as its browser engine. The worthwhile parts of Servo are already in Firefox by way of Gecko.

And Gecko has been notoriously unembeddable. Which kinda helped the whole CEF spread.

Not to mention Mozilla basically kneecapped Servo and Firefox by firing most of its devs in a purge.
Is there any indication that they will get the car? Getting a chatbot to say "legally binding" probably doesn't make it so. Just like changing the HTML of the catalog to edit prices doesn't entitle you to anything.
https://archive.is/D5rUb
Is this a reference to something? Other than Bobby Tables. Google can't find anything.
> Corporations can't wait even 20 years because tastes change.

Corporations create the taste. They can even wait hundreds of years. Just look at how many old stories are remade today. Unless there is something extraordinary, hyped for longer than a summer, they will wait all they want.
This isn't ChatGPT, this is the "Watsonville Chat Team". Sure, they may have used ChatGPT to make this offer to the customer, but how is that relevant? Do you think that if you use your phone's autocomplete to make an offer to a customer it is somehow not binding?
> I'm telling you that Java and Java programmers need them,

Yes, I know, you repeated it often enough. And I keep not sharing that opinion of yours.

> Why do you think there are so many translation layer efforts for JavaScript?

That's a really good question, given how little value many of these add depending on the context they are used in, and how many hoops some of them make developers jump through to do things that would be plain simple using less sophisticated libraries instead of frameworks, or go with plain JS in the first place.

Luckily, I answered that question several times in this thread already, so I don't need to repeat myself :-)

> I am going to go out on a limb and claim that all of you that downvote me have completely missed this point.

Or, and hear me out on this: Maybe the people downvoting completely understand your points, and simply...disagree?

> This is not what people are doing.

Yes, this is what people are doing, which is exactly why things like lightweight JS frameworks and uncluttered languages that come batteries included like Go are being so successful.
That's correct. I assume it was initially played with a standard deck but they now have custom decks.
They might be using multiple accounts to aggregate then
The Toronto Public Library got hit with ransomware, but they obviously can't afford to pay.

It's awful. TPL is one of the best library networks in North America, providing a vast array of valuable services to the people of Toronto.

It should be considered an essential service given how many underprivileged people depend on its services.
I just find it ironic that a bunch of folks who occasionally act like assholes online are critical of someone who occasionally acts like an asshole online.
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Please realize that the anti-vaccine nonsense is content driven by hostile regimes, ie China and Russia.

I will give you some links:

- https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-covid-disinformation-ca...

- https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/foreign-disinformation-...

- https://www.politico.eu/article/antivax-conspiracy-lean-pro-...
Qualcomm Claims Snapdragon X Elite 21% Faster Than Apple's M3 Chip
I hear, read and use the term on a daily basis, and I would say that it emerged in my workplaces around five years ago, and came into common use around two.
I don’t even use Figma, but I a glad Adobe won’t be owning them.
Oh, I’m not saying it’s illegal anywhere (maybe France? France is particularly aggressive on this sort of thing), but I would imagine that some Twitter salespeople will be having _interesting_ conversations with remaining large advertisers about this; it doesn’t really gel with previous positioning (at least to advertisers).
Excellent news. I think there should be more products, more companies, and more competition. Adobe just buying up it's competition will only ever directly hurt consumers.

See also, "Adobe says the FTC is looking into its subscription cancellation practices." https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/15/24003532/adobe-says-the-...
We are obsessed with anything divisible by 10, which is our counting base. So a decimal system is most logical.

It is highly unfortunate, though, that we used the number of our fingers for that base. Have we gone for the phalanges (sans content then with a thumb) we would end up with 12, divisible by 2, 3, 4, 6.

Since we would just use one hand for counting, we would easily end up with 12x12=144 without any effort.
>EU as some sort of totalitarian police state

Because it (or parts of it) were recently trying to ban private online communication, which is exactly what a totalitarian police state does.
Others have replicated this behaviour. If you embed ChatGPT, people will find ways to make it say things you didn't intend it to say.

There's not really any doctoring going on, other than basic prompt injection. However, I can imagine someone accidentally tricking ChatGPT into claiming some ridiculously low priced offer without intentional prompt attacks. If you start bargaining with ChatGPT, it'll play along; it's just repeating the patterns in its training data.
It looks like regulators are actually doing their job. I would love to see more of this, along with breaking up companies that have gotten too big for their britches.
This is sad for the overall M&A market. Companies are going to be scared to enter into these agreements because it’s just a waste of time and money when it inevitably ends up like this.
@dang: How about an actual option to delete accounts?
Great news for Figma lovers.
They had a marginal role compared to the west only in so far as they didn't produce as much as we did in the west.

But relatively compared to the west they were absolute swine and had no accountability towards their population.

The proof is in the very article we are discussing here. This would never happen in north korea or former soviet union.

You are trying to come up with some redefinition of terms. We all know what communism is, we know what socialism is, we know what capitalism is, we even know what social democratic nations look like (Grew up in one) we also know that most western countries are mixed economies.

I am not sure why you are trying to make up some argument there.

But it all boils down to accountability. In a system where the government is in control of the market it has less incentives as there is nothing that punishes them where as in a system where the companies is accountable to their citizens and then citizens are backed by the government there is a much better incentive structure. Furthermore in market driven systems the companies have an incentive in improving their product on all it's axis as that improves not only their bottom line but also their ability to compete with others.

Noan Chomsky lived in academia his whole life and never had to actually be accountable to any of the many wrong things he claimed.
You’re going to have a hard time suing most companies. You will likely have to pursue binding arbitration.
its an un-solvable problem. the media (going from well before the internet) profits off of outrage.
I’m just shocked that it’s been over a year since this merger was announced, I feel like it was sometime this summer, turns out it was last summer!
I wouldn’t be entirely shocked if someone doing this kind of prompt injection attack is arrested for “hacking.”
Amazing news!!!!!!!
Funny, but unless the chatbot is a legal agent of a dealership, it cannot enter into a legally binding contract. It's all very clear (as mud) in contract law. Judging from how easy LLMs are to game, we're a ways off from an "AI" being granted agent status for a business.
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Do any of these articles have details or specific examples? The claimed ease and casualness just don't ring true, and the stories are always via a "friend", or a "CTO I met recently at a conference", or some other anonymous person.
Which I think is overall good for the consumer, many of the companies are only merging to lessen competition, not provide any extra value to us.
How Can Feature Flags in .NET Improve Your Deployment Process?
>Purposefully nerfing yourself at the technology front isn't a solution

It is a solution if the problem is "preventing anything that could challenge the entrenched elites".
Except outlawing acquisitions by larger tech companies will absolutely reduce funding and incentives to start companies, and result in less products, less companies, and less competition.
> Servo is now independent from Mozilla

When I initially read the headline what I remember thinking before reading the article was 'I hope it has some use outside of Firefox'.
Yeah I miss Adobe Lightroom but you don’t get to install it, adobe takes over your computer
The one where your potential customers hang out.
Since the times of K&R, most C calling conventions are defined so that you can call a function with more arguments than it expects. While the ISO C standard does not permit such calls in strictly conforming code, support for them is still ubiquitous.

[One very common use of this is that the C libraries on common desktop systems call main with three (or more!) arguments, and this works whether the programmer has declared an int main(void), an int main(int argc, char *argv), or an int main(int argc, char *argv, char *envp). I once again have to say that the third form, with an envp argument, is not sanctioned by either ISO C or POSIX, and that a C implementation could definitely use some special handling for an external-linkage function called “main” to allow the first two to be used.]

In practical terms, a function call goes along the lines of “pack the first few arguments into caller-saved registers[1] (using more or less complicated rules), then the rest on the stack, then do a call (using either the stack or the link register depending on the architecture), then after returning pop off the stack part of the arguments (the register part being assumed clobbered and not requiring any cleanup).” This kind of convention is called “caller cleanup” (in contrast to “callee cleanup” conventions—like non-vararg __stdcall on Win32—which have the callee pop the arguments off). While you could imagine other ways to permit extra arguments, it’s certainly the most common one.

That, then, implies that a C function can tail call (jump to) any function whose argument tuple is a prefix of its own. Good compilers will recognize this (and unlike you giving a function extra arguments, they are within their standard-given rights to do so!). If you want proper tail calls to functions of other types... that might be possible, but it’s much more gnarly. See for example the description of the musttail attribute in the Clang documentation[2].

[1] For each machine register, a calling convention will define which the callee has to preserve (“callee-saved”) and which the caller will have to if it cares about what’s in them (“caller-saved”).

[2] https://clang.llvm.org/docs/AttributeReference.html#musttail
After building a free-for-all prompt myself (see profile), here’s how I protect against these attacks:

1. Whatever they input gets rewritten in a certain format (in our case, everything gets rewritten to “I want to read a book about [subject]”)

2. This then gets evaluated against our content policy to reject/accept their input

This multi layered approach works really well and ensures high quality content.
There are several social media companies that are in practice US-only: Parler, Truth Social for starters.

But if you wanted to make them places that regular people would want to frequent, then it would be pretty much the same product process as complying with EU rules.
In the same way that animal cruelty laws is bad for the cock-fighting market. Is the "M&A market" a valuable market worth having?
What Vue's Creator Learned the Hard Way with Vue 3
Modeling Organizations
Pretty much, this policy would only fly in a very small company where a very competent and attentive CEO is personally overlooking everyone's work and gives everyone a very long leash to work with.

In the corporate world, if you try to innovate or attempt to improve on an established process, you're most likely going to face disciplinary action unless you are very high up the ladder. C's and D's (and sometimes E's and F's) are A's, Actual A's and B's are insubordinate and unprofessional.
The use of knowledge in society - Hayek

https://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/hykKnw.html
No, Indian English is absolutely horrible to understand (for me, Swedish). It just sounds all wrong and you use strange word selections pretty often.

The thing about accents is that they are easy to understand for people coming from languages with the same way or similar of speaking, ie french have an easier time understanding English spoken by a french than if it is spoken by an Indian. What I'm saying is not that one way or the other is superior, but that it is different for different people with different language baggages.

This can be used to make yourself easier to understand - change your accent to match the person you are talking with.
This is so far from outlawing. And we are soooooo far from having a shortage of tech startups.
The entire purpose of starting a company is to get acquired. Of the literally hundreds of companies that YC has invested in, only 5 have gone public.

The VC market will dry up even more if they see their chances of an exit diminishing because of an overzealous government.
Photography/manipulation/oils are/were done by humans with intent.

Putting some prompts into an image generator and choosing which one you like is hardly the same thing.

However, the idea of AI generated images could be considered art (a bit like Duchamp's toilet), but it is pretty much done now.

Of course, 'paintings for hotel rooms' is something different, and indeed may be affected by AI
At some point on your commute (maybe when you enter your neighborhood), just stop. Pull off to the side of the road. Turn off the car. Stop for five minutes. In your mind, swap out your work. I mean "swap out" in the OS sense - dump it to disk, free up working memory. Swap in your family. Then start the car and drive the rest of the way home.
Do you mean CritLink by Ka-Ping Yee?

http://zesty.ca/crit/
Problem here will be is the customer expected to separate real agents using chat looking exactly same as bots. What if the agent is named Bot?

In general would a contract formed over chat be binding? On either side.
I know of one example where community notes was used to spread outright lies about the victim of police brutality a full day after the claims were disproven, so it still needs some work.
Jarvis: A Voice Virtual Assistant in Python (OpenAI, ElevenLabs, Deepgram)
Here is a video demo of the project:
https://youtu.be/aIg4-eL9ATc?si=66ynl4Mlci9v76rU
Mozilla needs to hear this more often.

There is only one browser, because browsers need to be embeddable, and Firefox isn't.
Can someone who understand LLMs and ChatGPT explain how they expected this to work? It looks like they just had a direct ChatGPT prompt embedded in their site, but what was that suppose to do exactly?

I can understand having an LLM trained on previous inquiries made via email, chat or transcribed phone calls, but a general LLM like ChatGPT, how is that going to be able to answer customers questions? The information ChatGPT has, specific to Chevrolet of Watsonville can't be anymore than what is already publicly available, so if customers can't find it, then maybe design a better website?
This isn't that though. This is a company with a clear monopoly trying to hoover up smaller competition to reduce competition. We shouldn't incentivise this behaviour, on either end.

If this is the liquidity event that Figma were betting on from day 1 that's their mistake for not foreseeing regulators being unhappy about it.
It’s total madness, isn’t it. Long time user, from 1-5, then everything fell apart with CC, subscriptions and the clusterfuck of shite installed on my Mac.
I'm not confusing anything and much has been written about how fascism wasn't a particular coherent or logical set of principles. There's not much you can point at and say "this is the logical core of fascism", because there is almost none. It's all very ad-hoc. "Propaganda" is almost all there is to fascism, if you take it away there's almost nothing left.

I hope you can understand this is a topic that exceeds the scope of an HN comment. If you want to read about this, there's tons of literature.
It says "Powered by ChatGPT" in the screenshot.

>Do you think that if you use your phone's autocomplete to make an offer to a customer it is somehow not binding?

Once again, just because ChatGPT said it, doesn't mean it's actually legally binding. This would be thrown out of court. It's no different than changing your name to "Free Chevy" and then claiming you're owed a free vehicle because those exact words appeared on the website.
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Perhaps it could make an IPO more likely instead? And that would make its way to early employees.
It’s hard for me not to see this as power play by the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.

Their “misinformation” is probably opposition parties commenting about Ukraine, internal politics, etc.
dupe https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38681861
First, know your audience.

Second, this thread has like 10 replies and is 6 minutes old. The only people who have time to post are those offering their "first reaction" take.

Note: my response is a "first reaction" to your post and probably missed some elements of nuance and depth that were just below the surface.
Another amusing thing right now, X marked a journalistic article about Tesla as "spam, misleading or violent":

https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/sverige/x-marker-lank-till-...
This is nice. Reminds me of the old Iodide notebooks; I'm so sad those lost to jupyter, in my mind they were so much nicer...
They will go public and can unload then. It’s an opportunity for figma to offer their customers early access to shares before IPO. Many of us will support them.
I would expect that to only get paid if solely one side were responsible for blowing up the deal. This is expressly saying both have mutually agreed.
Or we’ll see more IPOs. It might change valuations as expectations might be lower but it won’t dry up the VC market.
The purpose of a for profit company is to provide a good or service and profit from doing so. You don’t need to be acquired to accomplish that.
The entire purpose of antitrust regulation is to prevent monopolization.

Both those things can be true and both can be legitimate interests.
It is "experimental". The AI sometimes produces code that doesn't fully work (this is part of the fun). Refresh and try again. It works 90% of the time I would say.
That doesn't mean he's wrong though.
The future of [insert here], according to Wesley Faulkner
> The entire purpose of starting a company is to get acquired.

The vast majority of companies are little "lifestyle" businesses without any intention of ever getting acquired by anyone. Your local pizza shop doesn't expect to be a unicorn.
Very EU specific are all the points listed by the EC in their investigation. It cannot get more EU specific than this.
Thank fucking god. I am worried though that Figma will take the cancellation fee and start the layoffs to maximize it for an eventual IPO, and then blame the merger.
For what it's worth, it's actually labeled as ChatGPT at the top of the chat window. Of course it's lacking the "this is a chatbot and none of what it says grants you any rights whatsoever and you should triple check the things it does say because there's no guarantee it'll tell you the truth" disclaimer all chat bots should have, but at least the website isn't pretending you're talking to a human.

I think it's ridiculous to use ChatGPT for things like customer support. This time it's someone writing a basic prompt and expecting the AI to do what it says, but next time it could very well be someone who's unfamiliar with ChatGPT (remember that lawyer that thought ChatGPT was a search engine, and when confronted by the judge about made-up cases, doubled down and asked ChatGPT if ChatGPT was telling the truth?) who honestly believes they're haggling over a car with a real representative. Best case scenario they feel cheated by the company, worst case scenario a judge forces the company to honour the deal.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic but check SQL commands...
> This is so far from outlawing

It's not that far. A bureaucrat will decide if you can exit the way you want to. Still want to fund this venture?

> And we are soooooo far from having a shortage of tech startups.

Because there hasn't been a fear of them blocking exits.
> The entire purpose of starting a company is to get acquired.

or to make profit. Being acquired used to mean you failed, and had to suck your pride in and let someone else buy you out to pay off your debts.
In the finance and banking world a lot of the larger decisions are done in committees. These committees usually require a majority vote to get things approved. Most of the voting members of the committees are the Execs. You can imagine the political and bureaucratic intertwining of getting things done in these organizations with those types of personalities.
I'm fine with some other company buying-up Figma, just not Adobe. Microsoft could buy them (and hopefully not repeat what happened to Expression Blend) - or maybe Alludo could resurrect the Corel brand and launch Figma under that title?
It doesn't have to anything with elites. EU just likes to virtue signal on climate change and new technologies by introducing regulations to keep status quo. Keeping jobs for the sake of only keeping jobs doesn't make any productive sense.
While you are at it passing the size of the allocation during free can also be valuable and is usually available "for free".
I'm not sure the US approach to free speech works that well in practice. Political polarization has become worse in the US than in most other developed countries, and that looks like a consequence of free speech. When you value free speech far above social harmony, you give a lot of power to extremists of all kinds.
> the proof lies in what job ads mention.

Considering how many job ads for "entry level position" then go on to list a skillset that describes half an IT department, I'm not sure I would consider using these as a technical argument.
Being consistently wrong in the estimates of how long it would take, despite the history of failures, does not make the projections reliable. It shows the problem is poorly understood, even now.
No it isn’t just about selling out. It’s to unseat incumbents, deliver better products, make a difference. What do you think Google would have turned out like if Yahoo had bought them for $1m in 1996?