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Here's the most important paragraph in the blog post that most people will gloss over (because Google glossed over it):

"Drive is built to work seamlessly with your overall Google experience. You can attach photos from Drive to posts in Google+, and soon you’ll be able to attach stuff from Drive directly to emails in Gmail. Drive is also an open platform, so we’re working with many third-party developers so you can do things like send faxes, edit videos and create website mockups directly from Drive. To install these apps, visit the Chrome Web Store—and look out for even more useful apps in the future."

Specifically the app integration ecosystem they're creating with the Chrome Web Store is extremely interesting. There's documentation for developers here:

https://developers.google.com/drive/

Basically, you register your app against certain mime types, and then when users install your app into Chrome, they can now open those file types directly from Drive using your app, seamlessly.

It's Windows' "open with" dialogue, except on the Web. That's a big deal, because while everyone expected Drive to offer features that compete with Dropbox, this feature competes with operating systems. I think it's a brilliant move that shows Google thinking ahead and beyond what Dropbox is doing.
Looks like an very elegant and powerful service, I hope this takes off in a major way.

What's your plan for monetization? Ultimately, school districts care about support more than almost any factor (just look at the amount of horrendous tech in use in any K-12 school; Blackboard etc doesn't have much else going for it), and I'm sure a completely free hosted service with no visible income source might be a little off-putting.

I found out that my alma mater H.S. has recently dropped serious money (several thousands at least) on some seriously awful software - seriously frustrating for students, teachers, and parents - and now are obligated to continue using it because of the huge chunk of the budget that was lost. What's worse, it does a fraction of what Kite appears to do. These are the people who need to hear about your product -- well-meaning school IT staff who would otherwise be picking bloatware out of a hat.
>You can choose to upgrade to 25GB for $2.49/month, 100GB for $4.99/month or even 1TB for $49.99/month. When you upgrade to a paid account, your Gmail account storage will also expand to 25GB.

That's... odd. I'm paying $5/year to get 25gb of storage across Docs, Gmail, Picasa, and I see it also applies to Drive (just checked) (which is basically Docs anyway). Considerably less than $2.50/month. The 1TB is less than 1/2 the price listed, and there's no 100GB option at all.

Might there be pricing changes coming soon, or is this just a series of strange typos?
This is where Dropbox has a major edge for me

"You can install Drive on your Mac or PC"

Of course, if this pushes Dropbox to add more (useful) features and/or drop their price, that's cool too.
I just installed it on my PC and linked it to my account which has 2-factor enabled. It asked me for the code and worked like a charm.
Full details on Google Drive with screenshots & quotes
Haven't seen anything on the key question here for me ... how are they monetizing this?

I'd rather not upload a ton of personal data to Google until I know how they're making money off of it. (Do they plan to integrate your documents into your search results?)
This sounds terrible. I wonder if this space is ripe for a new startup to gradaully take over?

If you guys made a competitor to Yelp, how would you improve on it?
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True, Yelp got the filtering completely backwards in this instance. But, do you base any economic decision on two 5-star reviews from two Yelpers with 0 friends and 4 reviews combined?
I was required to use 2-factor when I installed the Mac software.
30 days, and you can pin certain versions.
The clock is ticking on Dropbox to lower their price. I'm paying $99/year for 50GB, but I'd be getting 100GB for $60/year over at Google. I'm already banging up against my 50GB limit - I may actually jump over to Google before my subscription is up just because the prices are so good.
Does Dropbox intrusively scan personal files, if not then I'd prefer to go with them since I don't want Google prying into my files.
"Drive is also an open platform"

Working with select third-party developers does not make something an open platform. A documented API makes something an open platform. Even a command-line client for a popular web-server operating system makes something an open platform. Google Drive is not an open platform yet.
Are they going to continue this research or was that the last flight?
Google Drive officially launched, comes with 5GB of free storage
Google is playing with it's massive tech. I hope DropBox does still has a chance and they need to do something pretty soon.
No, you really aren't paying a great deal for OS X. If you are buying a Mac because you like the hardware quality, then you should compare it to Windows machines of similar quality. If you were to do so, you would see that the Mac laptops are competitively priced.

Even if there was a few hundred dollar premium, keep it in perspective. How smart is it to be fretting over a few hundred bucks with respect to a tool that you will likely use for a year or two, for a significant % of your waking hours, and upon which you depend for your most of your income?
I don't know if it is, though. I have Google's +20gb plan from an earlier purchase, and it gives me 25gb in Drive too, for $5 per year.
In the pricing page of My Account it says:

Select a plan:
20 GB ($5.00 USD per year)
80 GB ($20.00 USD per year)
200 GB ($50.00 USD per year)
400 GB ($100.00 USD per year)
1 TB ($256.00 USD per year

But in the blogpost it says:"You can choose to upgrade to 25GB for $2.49/month, 100GB for $4.99/month or even 1TB for $49.99/month"

They should probably get that sorted out.
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Pardon me if I don't grasp the meaning of this sentence. What is the link between deficiencies in a given population and its reporting and how does it relate with unnatural enhancement ?

Do you mean deficiencies shouldn't be reported or taken into account because the solutions (ie: eat better) to these situations are unnatural enhancements (dietary supplements, daily fixed and predictable food input, etc.) ?
Notice they mentioned wedding and vacation planning? Great advertising opportunities.
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Sorry, this is a common misunderstanding. Modern nuclear weapons are generally very fuel efficient, while there are some short lived nucleotides that are brought on by the activation of elements exposed to the gamma ray flux during detonation, unless you actively try to make it 'dirty' (and thus long lived) you can go back to living there in a couple of months. The only cities which were atomically bombed are completely livable today (much less than 500 years).

The dangers of a large nuclear exchange are widespread climate change and economic disruptions brought about by entire supply chains being removed. Not 'wastelands' of bombed out cities too radioactive to visit.
Thank you Hacker News
Amazon doesn't make that distinction.

That said, the old name (Market) felt much more appropriate overall.
microsoft, canonical, apple and now google; won't any one of the bigger tech players buy dropbox instead of developing something new?
Do you have a link? Their pricing is confusing as hell, no clear information anywhere.
I'm not sure if this helps https://developers.google.com/drive/ but as taken from another comment, it seems there is an API (or SDK or whatever).
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I think the most common use case for blocks in C++ are functional-ish STL algorithms, unlike C blocks, which were built for async operations. In that use case, they absolutely shine - since they don't outlive their parent scope, no memory management is necessary, they can be inlined and ideally add no overhead. I think this easily outweighs the cases where you need slow shared pointers.
So if I have desktop software, can I put a button on my download page that instantly copies the zip file to the user's Google Drive from my own?

If not, would anyone like to make one? That seems like a convenient option for users, not to mention the bandwidth savings.
Say hello to Google Docs+
When I click the mini-icon on my mac, select "Buy more storage", it takes me to a page with pricing of 20Gb for $5/yr.
Well, there's always the pricing: https://accounts.google.com/b/0/PurchaseStorage?hl=en_US
I thought of this a few months back, glad to see it being done in such a polished manner! Looking forward to play more levels.
Hard to believe they're selling them at a loss. $400 is roughly what a Galaxy Nexus costs in European online stores if you ignore the VAT.
Indeed, nothing about it being secret appears anywhere in the blog posting, prosaic title is:

ENGINEERING REVIEW BOARD CONCLUDES REVIEW OF HTV-2 SECOND TEST FLIGHT

And it's quite cool; of particular note is their analysis that the improvements prompted by the previous first test allowed the flight control system to keep it stable for a while as the skin was peeling off and creating nasty aerodynamic effects. And I gather they have some real world to provide the materials science types.
Ask HN: Build Server Alarm/Siren/Toy
I read somewhere a while back about a wifi product that talks to your build server and sounds an alarm or does something funny when a build fails... Anyone know what I am talking about or where to find this thing? I tried googling it but couldn't find it.
Confusing. It says upgrade to 25GB for less than $2.50/month then it says 20GB for $5.00/year. You would think with Google's budget they would have some person read the front page and the pricing page.
Can anyone comment on the 3G reception and the wifi reception?

I've heard varying reports on problems in these areas, but it's difficult to tell if they are carrier-related for the 3G.

Also, is the wifi any good? I found the reception on the Nexus S severely lacking.
I'm really happy that they skipped the whole beta/invitation launch.
Both you and the parent surely already know it's not strictly Google that is doing this - it's the lovely RIAA (and/or MPAA depending on what content).

Google could do a better job making this restriction clear and isolating it to just the content that is owned by them - leaving the rest of the store available worldwide.

But I agree with pg, we need to find a way to get rid of the RIAA and MPAA. (And their Canadian counterparts. Go Michael Geist!)
Google & Apple make outstanding marketing videos. They are routinely some of the best I see in any industry, and the clear leaders in the tech industry.

The only "startup" I have seen that rivals their quality of marketing videos is Square. Does anyone know how much producing video like this costs?
Worth mentioning is Yelp's long (alleged) history of using review filtering as a de facto racket to 'encourage' businesses to sign up for their paid services.

A company I used to freelance for found that after they stopped paying Yelp for a premium account, they started seeing more negative reviews and a number of their positive reviews were filtered out. They got almost daily phone calls from Yelp marketing types essentially suggesting that if they renewed their subscription, the negative reviews would 'disappear'.

This was a few years ago, so maybe things have changed since then. Either way, I wouldn't hold your breath for a better review verification system.
Do you know how to build it? Me neither.
Here's the API https://developers.google.com/drive/v1/reference/
https://developers.google.com/drive/
http://support.google.com/picasa/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ans... and when you go to "Buy more storage"
Not everyone is a sophisticated Yelp user with an understanding of social networks. A lot of people will simply see two 5-star reviews, zero negative reviews, and think that looks like a safe bet.
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I didn't have social trouble in high school, I had trouble in college. And that's something that I think goes unrecognized. Everybody knows about the crazy suburban high school experience, but a surprising number of my friends were severely unhappy in college. I can barely remember my freshman year -- I pretty much blocked it out. And I went to an Ivy League school. There was a kind of background noise level of callousness; people who were "different" in various ways were singled out for mockery in the school paper, people who were struggling were ostracized. And the undergrad culture was seriously misogynistic -- I accepted it as a given while I was there, but by the time I graduated I noticed I was advising girls not to go there if they had other options.

It's not just high school that can suck. Teenagers are immature, but there are other kinds of environments that can be stressful and isolating. And the advice is the same -- get through it, and then find a culture where you fit in better.
Not everything: http://sketchup.google.com/ http://picasa.google.com/
Ugh. Yeah. Got to that point in the article and closed the tab. It's a good article, but, sadly, that's the only thing I remember now about the article.
I wonder how insync ( https://www.insynchq.com/ ) will adapt to this launch of Google Drive since they specialize on syncing googledocs.
I'm sad there isn't a native linux version. I love that GDrive lets you browse inside zip archives (Haven't tried other formats) from the site.
[crosspost from the French translation thread - now that we have the official details, I think this comment is better discussed here.]

So the things Google Drive has that Dropbox doesn't:

* 2-factor authentication!

* Comments on files

* OCR - like Evernote, you can search against text in images (e.g. newspaper article)

* Image recognition - if you upload a pic of the Eiffel Tower, you can find it with the search term "eiffel tower"

* Web-based file viewer - 30 file types including HD video, Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.

The OCR and image recognition are going to be killer features for "normal" people. And I imagine it's something Dropbox can't easily duplicate (unlike the other features).

Then again, as a more privacy-minded technical person, the image recognition feature scares the beejezus out of me. Tagging faces on Facebook is one thing, but being able to semantically identify all contents of my images is really stepping up the creepiness quotient.

Should be interesting to see how Dropbox responds.
I'd rather it didn't by default. Now I have a ton of random docs from over the years synced...
Can't use the Drive app on the Mac through a SOCKS proxy. 8-(
I think the 6 figure salaries will definitely still exist. The interesting thing is that developers cannot let their skills stagnate. If we stop learning at 30, the 20 year olds will steal our jobs. Going the management route can be dangerous, but going the consultant route, I think it's a pretty safe career.
The Lowdown on Google Drive
This is getting out of hand....
Remember when Gmail launched and it was like 10-100 more free space than other similar services?

I was hoping Google would have done that here, but rather it still feels like they are trying to play catch up.
Google Drive Launches, But Without Linux Client
To anyone else who uses a custom Google apps domain, it looks like Drive may not be available for a few more weeks:
http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2...

Edit: Not so. You can enable the "rapid release" track for your domain by following the instructions here:
http://whatsnew.googleapps.com/choose-release-track
It may take "up to a day" for the setting to take effect, but once it does your domain's users should be able to opt into Drive right away from https://drive.google.com/start
Pricing is pretty darn good.

Any of these plans add 25GB on a non-Google Apps (just guessing, they like to screw us) Gmail Account which spills over to Picasa.

I just might switch from a Free Dropbox to a paid Google Drive, despite them treating me like a business because I want to use my own domains.
I recently upgraded to Dropbox @ $199/yr for 100gb to archive our digital photos.

Yesterday MSFT skydrive offered 100gb for $50/yr.

Today GOOG offers 400GB for $100/yr or 1TB for $256/yr.

As a consumer with "offsite backup" in mind, there doesn't seem to be an inherently high switching cost to move services away from DropBox.

As a result I think that they're going to need to reassess pricing strategy within the year.

ref: Goog pricing https://accounts.google.com/b/0/PurchaseStorage?hl=en_US
Google Drive also launches with an API
Call their support line for clarification.
Gdrive was killed in 2008 (according to Steven Levy's book In the Plex after some top management lobbying by Sundar Pichai .. the guy who now wrote the blogpost) but as this was 4 years ago and a lot of waves have passed since then, I suspect - without any internal knowledge - that this is a complete new iteration of the same topic.
It was my understanding from previous articles that this is an ongoing project.
There's no technical workaround for having good references from trusted source for something as important as movers, a dentist, a skilled tradesperson, a doctor, et al. (edit: I don't care, it's true. Even Angie's List isn't great)
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And the price is great! I will most certainly give it a shot.
The asking price is probably too insane. If Instagram is a $1B company, than what is Dropbox?
If you have function application, then you don't truly need a primitive conditional. You can represent Boolean values and conditional functions with the Church encoding [1]. This is how conditionals are represented in, for instance, the lambda calculus.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_encoding#Church_booleans
https://developers.google.com/drive/

Direct link to the SDK
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pixelst...
The Google Docs integration is disappointing. Just JSON files that open up Google Docs in your browser, nothing useful to point Time Machine or some sort of backup script at.
I'm really looking forward to see this because the few apps that used Dropbox for this where brilliant, for example CineXplayer on iOS to store videos.
The official blog says you can buy 100 GB for $4.99 a month. If I go to my google accounts settings page to try to buy it, itsays 200 GB for $50 a year. Something is not lined up correctly. I'd pay $50 right now and get rid of Carbonite if I thought it would pay off, but I don't want to get stung paying $50 for the wrong type of storage.
I don't know if he's just being coy by saying this is an accident on Yelp's part.

The actual reviews are here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/royal-transportation-moving-and-stor.... It's pretty obvious there is something fishy about the unfiltered reviews. Each reviewer first left a one line review "Amazing!!! one of a kind..one of the best sushi place" and "the best of the best" before their very detailed, glowing review of the movers. If that's what it takes to fool the spam filter then something is very wrong. By contrast one of the filtered reviewers has ten measured, thorough reviews but his review has been banned for ToS violations.

Yelp really needs to disclose which vendors have a business relationship with them. They should also make the filtered reviews easier to see (place the link next to the unfiltered review count) and remove the damn CAPTCHA. I regularly try to check the filtered reviews but can't because the CAPTCHA is too difficult to read.
Thank you, that helps. It would have been nice for Google to link to it in their announcement.
Interesting. I didn't see any reference to them in a quick scan, but it would be great if this worked with Web Intents as well.
https://www.google.com/settings/storage/?hl=en
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I hope not. Like Twitter and others before it, I think Dropbox is more likely to succeed and engender trust from users as an independent company.

Dropbox has said that unlike iCloud or SkyDrive, they're the only ones offering a truly cross-platform offering, that doesn't favor any one OS or platform over any other. Selling out to one of the big companies (except maybe Amazon/Facebook) would sacrifice that.

Not to mention, Drew Houston already turned down a 9-figure offer from Steve Jobs so I doubt he's interested in selling.
I work for a startup in Sunnyvale that is trying to do something like that.

Would you mind looking at (the web site listed in my profile) and describing what is still missing?

edit: removed link
There is a lot to learned and gained from learning how to deal with people. Becoming a hermit is not an achievement. Most people who "do not have friends" are not in that situation because they are something extra special and different snowflakes but because they have not learned how to communicate, empathize, follow simple social norms and perhaps even take shower time to time. Not being an ass usually gets you at least few decent friends.
I'm too am comfortable with Rails and the Ruby ecosystem but jumped into Express recently with Socket.io and MongoDB and think you should too. My curiosity was shortly satisfied and I decided to stick with synchronous code instead dealing with callbacks. For a moment there, I was high with "I'll use Node with everything!".

But the experienced inspired me to play with Ruby's EventMachine, Cramp, Goliath, and implementations like socketio-ruby on Cramp. I also took some time out of my life to really dive in to Javascript and experience some new tools.
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> Rather: iphone financing is killing their cash flow

Not sure why that would be, surely while Apple dictates their asking price they don't dictate financed price do they? So that's a self-inflicted wound, and one which carriers could fix by financing the phone less.

On the other hand, the iPhone precludes almost all carrier control, they don't control the initial load, they don't control the updates, ... Carriers control some features Apple gives them hooks for (e.g. tethering), but that's about it. And customers become loyal to the device (and its manufacturer) rather than the carrier, not hesitating jumping ships to a carrier providing the device.

> Carriers need a third player, to push down financed device costs

It's not like Apple had much say in this back in 2007~2008, and BlackBerry was still there...

I don't see sensible support for this narrative.
Thanks for this comment, I found it very interesting.

I recommend people also read another commenter's reaction to home schooling (it's completely the opposite of yours): http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3884067
Bland new gdrive logo is going to really annoy the UK Natwest bank which has had one 'very similar indeed' for many years.
Not available for Business. What the hell?
(nevermind: they were apparently just slow to update their purchase page. The base price is now $2.50/mo for 25GB)

https://accounts.google.com/b/0/PurchaseStorage

This is linked from the Google Drive app icon in the OS X system tray as "buy more storage".

'''
Purchase additional storage

Google storage is shared between Gmail, Picasa Web Albums, and Google Docs. You get extra space in all these services, in addition to your current free quota. Learn more
Select a plan:

20 GB ($5.00 USD per year)

80 GB ($20.00 USD per year)

200 GB ($50.00 USD per year)

400 GB ($100.00 USD per year)

1 TB ($256.00 USD per year)
Need even more storage?

Buy 20 GB for $5.00 per year

Store up to 10000 photos from a 5MP camera.
Your new plan will automatically renew each year, but you can disable auto-renewal at any time by returning to this page and choosing the free plan. We will contact you 30 days prior to renewal.

Please allow up to 24 hours for your new storage amount to appear in all services. Learn more
'''