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Why would Google - or any other company for that matter - spend time and money on something as complicated and error-prone like that? They would never be able to sell it to anyone and it could ruin their brand substantially if it ever came out.

I don't see why you would even consider this to be happening.
I wonder how different this is from insync ( insynchq.com ) when it comes to syncing googledocs.
But why? I'm not loyal to Dropbox. Competition is good for the rest of us. I get 25GB free from SkyDrive. I hope the others follow suit.
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They'll keep at it -- inventing new TLAs as needed -- until all of the individual pieces are passed.

I'd bet a shiny nickel that (at least in the US) the worst bits won't be part of any big standalone legislation, they'll be buried in some giant "must pass" spending bill. Nobody will realize the provisions are in there until after it's already been signed.
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A: Ask your < friend / relative / neighbor / workmate / schoolmate / etc.>.

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Q: Same question.

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>For some manufacturers it's not a good thing as they build handsets for carriers who may not want handsets built specifically for them once they're "nothing but dumb pipes".

I think manufacturers are very pissed at having to make a different model for each carrier or make slight changes in the design and naming for each carrier.

This is the reason that Nokia stopped dealing with carriers and went the unlocked route a few years before having to eat crow and get back into bed with the carriers this year.

The manufacturers would be very happy to make one model and be able to sell it on multiple carriers with consistent naming.
"Our team will be on Stack Overflow to answer any questions you have when integrating your app with Google Drive."

This is awesome thinking: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/google-drive-sdk

via http://googledevelopers.blogspot.com/2012/04/introducing-goo...
It's likely something new. This is very much integrated into Google Docs (Docs actually gets replaced with Drive when you opt-in), so it's different than just a storage system. Like a commenter mentioned above, this is all about replacing your hard drive and the "Open With.../Save As..." dialogs in your operating system. The previous iterations of this were simply a generic filesystem interface to the shared storage pool Google was using for Picasa, Docs, Gmail, and other services. This is way better.
This is trivial to build. Buy an Ardunio [1] and add a WaveShield [2]. Build them.

Create an SD card with a bunch of interesting alarm sounds. There are lots on-line, if you're lame you can walk out of an alarmed door with your phone in 'sound recorder' mode.

Now write a 'sketch' (its a program but they call them sketches) which runs a simple loop that watches the serial port and takes requests to play various sound files from the SD card. It could have the syntax where it prints

Ready>

To the serial port in response to a carraige return. And if you send it:

p soundfile<cr>

It plays that sound file.

Now on your server when the build breaks include this in the script that watches it.

echo '\n\np alarm.wav' > /dev/ttyUSB1

when it gets an error.

Oh and you will want to connect the Waveshield to a speaker of some sort. Simplest is to dig up an unused pair of powered PC speakers but the Waveshield's amp can drive a simple 8 ohm speaker as well.

Have fun!

[1] http://www.makershed.com/product_p/mksb013.htm

[2] https://www.adafruit.com/products/94
When I saw my Docs start syncing in, I thought it meant I would be able to work on them offline. I was also disappointed, but I'm sure this functionality will roll out down the road.
Google Drive: It's slick, integrated...and not exactly free
Google Drive officially launches with 5GB free storage, Google Docs integration
They "monetize" it by charging money for use of the service.
Thanks for your response...Photoshop...I get that...but what I was looking for is the framework and the intricacies behind that makes it an insanely great app. For example, with PhoneGap and HTML5 there are something that can be done better and faster than to try the same with native iOS classes. Wanted to see if there are any place where these things are revealed or if there are any advice on these.
Ask HN: When do you see something you want to come back to later?
For me personally:
1. When I see an email that I need to act on but at a later time.
2. When I find a cool song on Pandora while working and don't want to interrupt what I am doing to jot it down.
3. An interesting event which comes up on Twitter or via email which I want to look into when (if) I have some free time.

Please share your ideas!
"You can attach photos from Drive to posts in Google+"

And this reminded me how much stuff I already have sitting in Google. A minor glitch last week meant I couldn't access my webmail (though I primarily use IMAP), which made me start thinking about this.

I'm really pleased to see Drive come out but at the moment I feel reluctant to put too much stuff into it because I become even more dependent on the big G (and I'm actually surprised I feel this way and it's only a recent thing). Perhaps this feeling will fade but I'm not sure.

Having an OS on my machine is great since the maker (MS/Apple) can't simply turn it off. Having Google become my "cloud OS" makes me nervous.
On Mac OS X, the application doesn't respect symlinks. Does anyone have any ideas how I can get it to auto-mirror my Documents/ directory without me actually moving my Documents/ under the Google Drive/ directory?
It's essentially a renamed Google Docs but allowing you to upload non-document files (although I think you might have been able to do that already)
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Alright, thanks! That's better. I couldn't find the link to that page anywhere on the Google Drive site, though. I was led to the old pricing page.
The pricing of this service is an eye-popper. I've avoided cloud backups for years because of Dropbox-like prices.

At $256/TB/year, I can back up all my stuff, and never think twice.

Game changed!
I wasn't saying it was impossible, but what you've described is already about 10 times harder than using virtualenv.
Where I work we use CruiseControl.net and using their tool CCTray, we have rigged a red revolving light to a X11 port so that when a build fails, we are warned that there is an emergency with the light. It's really easy to set up and I've seen other kind of hacks using CruiseControl.net if you can set it up (or if you are already using it)

Kind of the same thing built with a pair of lava lamps : http://www.pragmaticautomation.com/cgi-bin/pragauto.cgi/Moni...
This is very aggressive pricing from Google. With Microsoft offering 25GB for free (although for a limited time, and only to its existing users), and Google offering 100GB for $5/mo, the online storage space is finally heating up. The tight integration with Google Docs, and (in case of Microsoft) Office Web Apps, and valuable features like OCR and Image recognition means that these companies are now offering services on top of their online storage that Dropbox doesn't.

Dropbox definitely has a head-start today, but Google and Microsoft have the scale to offer better prices, existing platforms to tightly integrate their solutions with (Android and Windows), and the brand-power to pull people away from Dropbox. This may be the first time Dropbox has some real competition.
As a satisfied (and paying) Dropbox user, Google is pushing all the right buttons for me with this:

- More storage space, lower price

- Ecosystem for 3rd-party apps

- Integration with existing Google services and two-factor authentication

I like Dropbox and would love to keep using them, but they will need to respond strongly and quickly if they want to keep my business.
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Has anybody tried syncing extisting folders via symlinks? Using Dropbox this is how I prefer to keep track of folders outside of the actually Dropbox folder. Google Drive just seems to ignore them.

Not being able to include other folders would pretty much be a deal-breaker for me :( Any ideas?
Where are you seeing this? I see 25GB for $2.49 USD per month, 100GB for $4.99 USD per month, 1TB for $49.99 USD per month (and a few others) here: https://www.google.com/settings/storage/?hl=en
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You can enable offline access in Google Docs. Backup's the issue for me, though.
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Watch for the upcoming Snippets feature in Canary. :)
Building up Windows Phone is completely the wrong move if they want lower prices. Microsoft is not going to greenlight the component cost-cutting, nor match the license fees (even including patent royalties) that veritable no-name manufacturers get away with, with Android.
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> Henry Ford was one of the first to change. Instead of a 6 day week, he made his factories have a 5 day week, and was willing to pay the same for less work.

Doubling the minimum wage at the same time, apparently. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#The_five-dollar_work...
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i'm the opposite.

i just need another 500mb, and i just dont need to pay another $10/m for a bunch of disk space i won't use. everyone i know already has dropbox too, so referrals are out.

I hope the pricing of dropbox lowers soon too.
I saw the same pricing as you did but it _just_ changed as I refreshed the page a second time.

1 TB now costs $49.99 per month, or $600/year. This is a substantial jump from $256/year and means it's no longer an attractive proposition...
All of them advise other startups and have their own companies/practices to run.

As mentioned earlier, I update them at the same time every week so they're up to date on what's happening. In fact, if they didn't make the effort to be up to date I would cut them from my Board of Advisors. I'm not sure anything really valuable can be distilled if they don't know what's happening and keep asking the same questions.
> I think manufacturers are very pissed at having to make a different model for each carrier or make slight changes in the design and naming for each carrier.

I'm guessing that depends on the carrier, Nokia had power and brand name but HTC was founded as a strict ODM.

The advantage is that you get money to build the phone (to specs, and usually shitty, but still build it) and are cushioned from device failure: currently, carriers want many devices in their portfolio (even if most barely sell).
That's an android app API. See andrenotgiant's comment (sibling to yours) that links to a REST API. What I have in mind is letting people export photos into a folder to populate a photojournal, as I'm already doing with Dropbox.

[EDIT] Looking deeper I see they're the same API. [/EDIT]

It's a good thing I read HN. From the Google announcement alone I would not be aware of either API.
This seems buggy. I created an archive subfolder and moved all my old Google docs there. This change (which presumably touches metadata only) took minutes to sync (on a fast connection) and failed on one file with this mysterious error: "Upload Error - An unknown issue has occurred."

Also: no option to disable the dock icon or turn off the hypnotic animation while files are syncing. Ugh.
What might go wrong? (This is a test of imagination, not confidence.) Google might finally unleash GDrive and steal a lot of Dropbox's thunder (especially if this takes place before launch.)...

From Dropbox's 2007 YC Application, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27532820/app.html

I love reading old YC applications. I wonder if someday, they'll become the 21st century version of Harvard Business Review case studies.
Is it just me or is this landing page pretty terribly designed (other than the video)?

If I didn't already know what the product is, I would have no idea what I'm looking at. Is it a cyberlocker? Is it a Dropbox clone? Is it a social file editor?

Heck, the landing page could almost just be describing the previous Google Docs functionality.

The most innovative features, OCR and image recognition, are buried away with almost no description of just how useful they might be (privacy issues aside). The file revisions feature is sorely lacking in detail.

Also, the amount of white space feels excessive. Was a second page for features even necessary or couldn't that have just all been on the main page?

I'm sure the product is great and all, but this page is completely useless to send to less technical friends or family members.

Edit: If you want to compare it to Google's other downloadable software landing pages:

http://google.com/chrome

http://google.com/earth

http://google.com/toolbar

http://google.com/quicksearchbox

http://picasa.google.com

http://sketchup.google.com
But that's an API for chrome apps. You couldn't write a linux-based sync client, or FUSE mount, etc... Basically Linux users have access to the ecosystem of online apps, but not access to the files in the native filesystem (one of the things that makes Dropbox such a killer app). Frustrating.
Yelp has been having problems for a long time, especially with small business owners. The site is killing small business owners, just do a Google search and you will find endless complaints about the site. Truth is Yelp cannot control the reviews, they can't guarantee them and their Filter... if it works only 50% of the time then it is worthless.
On the upgrade storage page it tells me how much space I use across Google products, which includes Picassa. With the inclusion of Web Store apps, one of the first available being Pixlr, I'm curious if Drive is going to make Picassa obsolete?

It seems like applications working with Drive would eventually replace all of Picassa's functionality.
Gmail, now with 10 GB of storage (and counting)
>Not sure why that would be, surely while Apple dictates their asking price they don't dictate financed price do they? So that's a self-inflicted wound, and one which carriers could fix by financing the phone less.

The fact is that margins are down at Sprint, Verizon and AT&T because of the iPhone.

Last quarter:

http://business.time.com/2012/02/08/how-apples-iphone-actual...

This quarter, AT&T's and Verizon's profits are up because of lower iPhone sales:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/24/us-att-idUSBRE83N0...

I think Apple won't be too happy with it's primary device more expensive than $199 on contract as that's the sweet spot and any increase will cut into sales.

Apple's stock is down about 13% in two weeks because the carriers are getting tired of razor thin margins on iPhones while Apple laughs all the way to the bank and are pushing back. Not to mention the lower sales of iPhones this quarter.

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/04/23/apple-slips-...

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/24/technology/att-verizon-iphon...
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Well it's a good thing a major point of the product is the local copy :)
What are you talking about? Users have complete control over who they share their documents with in Drive. How is it 'evil' to provider a better UI for what people can already do (email documents to one another)?
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Disclaimer: I don't work for Yelp but I have created other user-ratings-based sites before.

It's not entirely fair to criticize Yelp for under-emphasizing negative reviews.

One of the big hurdles to overcome on a user ratings site is that people are most motivated to write reviews when they are outraged. There is a massive selection bias, and if nothing is done to alleviate this, your site runs the risk of becoming a soap box for ranting.

You work harder to get positive reviews than negative ones. If you receive 2 bad reviews and 2 good ones, that does not mean 50% of people are dissatisfied.

This should be the motivation for preferencing good reviews over lots of one-off bad reviews.

BUT: Yelp made the cardinal sin of "objective" ratings sites: their profit comes from the entities they are rating. Ergo everything on their site is questionable.
The Importance of User Feedback/Testing
When launching a new startup or project it's absolutely crucial to get real user feedback as fast as possible. That's exactly what I did with my new app Polls.io and I couldn't be more happy with the response and feedback I got from releasing it probably a little premature. This allowed me to tweak some things that I probably wouldn't have found on my own. I was able to have real users test my product while also pointing out bugs and suggestions.
Yesterday I launched what many would consider a MVP. I was happy enough with the product that I thought it was a good time to get feedback. I probably could have waited a bit, but I think in the end I made the right choice.

Some of the suggestions/bugs pointed out to me yesterday were:

1) Text would overlap when long(er) questions and answers were posted

2) Decimal places would go out to 10 places when an odd number of votes were received

3) Facebook comments wouldn't always load

4) Tweet buttons didn't properly add title of poll in

5) It's not clear that after you hit the radio button you also have to click "vote"

Since then we've managed to correct or improve on 4 of the 5 main suggestions. Text should no longer overlap. Decimal places are now nonexistent. Facebook comments usually loads (fingers crossed). The tweet button now properly displays the poll title followed by a direct link.

The only thing that we haven't changed is that you have to click "vote" after initially selecting your choice. We're still looking for a bit more feedback on that before switching it. However, it's very likely that a change will come to either make the button more visible or to get rid of it altogether.

I can't stress enough how important launching a bit early was for Polls.io. If I wouldn't have done so I probably wouldn't have corrected these bugs yet and wouldn't know if there was actually a market for an app like this. By releasing it early and gaining feedback, I was able to greatly improve my app in under 24 hours.

So if you're considering releasing an app soon... do it as soon as you feel it is usable! Get some feedback and improve it from there. Plus, you'll quickly find out just how useful people think your app really is.
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Both of those were acquired from external groups and were written before Google had their hands on the source.
The web interface obviously works, sure. But the "sync app" does not.
Why do people here expect Dropbox to 'respond'?

As far as I'm aware, their growth (primarily) comes from people inviting each-other and they're obviously device/OS agnostic. Yes, the pricing is way different but we shouldn't assume that's the major driver for most people.
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But it adds desktop apps, which are pretty important