skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
For a decade, "operator" in Silicon Valley as has been used exactly as the commentator above describes it.

Which creates separation from "investor" or "engineer" or "founder" or "PM" or "sales" or "finance". Somebody has to make stuff happen in organizations. And the people who are good at it (Satya is excellent) set their organizations up for unique success.

And yes, ex-special forces people roll their eyes at it. Which is appropriate! But the usage is now totally distinct.
That's even worse. Breaching the contract would presumably mean they would lose access to the GPT4 IP. That would set Microsoft back months in the race. Unthinkable.
It's par for the course for Amazon, given how they're pushing Ring with law enforcement endorsements.
Yeah, I have heard that one as well. But it is total crap; they went from 100% not caring to 100% caring about moving seats within same class.
This makes the most sense, people would actually get paid for their PIU's. Im confident otherwise they are going to cry looking at what a level 63 data scientist makes at MS
That's news to you?
Poverty is inevitable. I’d say the appropriate age ranges is whatever society decides, which is apparently 18 or so.
I work from home, so my commute is 0 minutes XD
Venmo, Cash App users sue Apple over peer-to-peer payment fees
It's remote takeover of the decision-making process because the automation failed. Despite how the CEO "clarified" it.
Be the asshole people want to kiss
Doing this risks you being banned by whatever service imposes the fee. Not such a big deal when it’s NoName Vendor, but suddenly being banned from using American Airlines is probably a huge deal for most people
> select their seats, check their bags, buy food, etc

I mostly don't have a problem with unbundling, except for seat selection. That's just gouging. But it works pretty well because people traveling as a group will suck it up and pay for the privilege of picking seats together.
After removing Sam and Greg, there are four remaining.

This means no matter what Ilya does, the other three can vote him out, which is why the board removed Mira, stalled on bringing Sam back, etc, since Ilya's vote does not matter anymore.

Only if you can move two people over to the other side will you have 3 vs 1, and could bring Sam and Greg back.

This Microsoft deal could just be another Satya card, and means:
1. If Sam goes back to OpenAI, we (as Microsoft) still will get new models at the normal rate in our previous contract.
2. If Sam cannot go back, we get to hire most of OpenAI to Microsoft, and can rebuild from the rubble.

So AI is saved at the last minute. Either OpenAI will live, or it will be rebuilt in Microsoft and funded by Microsoft with the same benefits as before. Only loss was slowing AI down by maybe months, but the team probably could get back where they started. They know it all in their heads. Microsoft already has the IP.

If there was no hope for OpenAI, then Ilya might just move with Sam to Microsoft, and that would be the end of it.
I find this very surprising. How do people conclude that OpenAI's success is due to its business leadership from Sam Altman, and not from it's technological leadership and expertise driven by Illya and the others?

Their asset isn't some kind of masterful operations management and reign in cost and management structure as far as I see. But about the fact they simply put, have the leading models.

So I'm very confused why would people want to following the CEO? And not be more attached to the technical leadership? Even from investor point of view?
> This is silly, setenv() isn't reentrant for the same reason that getopt() isn't reentrant: there's no valid reason to use it except at the very beginning of the program.

It is not, unless you'd argue that "there's no valid reason to use [anything that transitively uses setenv()] except at the very beginning of the program." Did you even read the article? The author and the GitHub links mentioned provide some examples that use setenv() not directly, but transitively.
It seems the next step, is the board to sign the letter calling for the board resignation. The insanity will be complete, and all can get back to therapy.
Wait also @dang was this flagged because it was a dupe? The site was lagging out and I couldn't tell it was already posted and I agree that the existing one should be the main one - I can delete it or something instead but I figured getting hidden and transferring the comments was enough to give due credit and support to the first poster?
For a tech forum it is surprising how many commenters in this thread don’t understand what are “dark patterns”. It’s not fraud. Of course eventually I will see the total cost. It’s about misleading the customer in the process. They don’t have to trick me into paying more, they just need to make me progress far enough that I will choose to pay more to save my own time.
> a rational acting person would not do that.

Non-profit boards have no incentive to be rational.
So when the the business data transaction commit a notify event is raised and a job row is inserted. Out of bound job broker listens to a notify event of the job-table or polls the table skipping rows and takes work for processing?
Amir Efrati (TheInformation):

> More than 92% of OpenAI employees say they will join Altman at Microsoft if board doesnt capitulate.
Signees include cofounders Karpathy, Schulman, Zaremba.

https://twitter.com/amir/status/1726680254029418972
That's why it is useful to have a tool of measure rather than relying on arbitrary human opinion. It may not seem like there is value, but the measured actions say otherwise.
Copilot Competitor: Amazon CodeWhisperer for Command Line
Given that Ilya switched sides now, it leaves with 3 BOD members that are at the helm.

The one that is really overlooked in this case is the CEO of Quora, Adam D'Angelo, who has a competing interest with Poe and Quora that he sunk his own money into it which ChatGPT and GPTs makes his platform irrelevant.

So why isn't anyone here talking about the conflict of interest with Adam D'Angelo as one of the board members who is the one who is trying to drag OpenAI down in order to save Quora from irrelevancy?
I can’t imagine MS is super eager to welcome Sutskever if he really did lead Altman’s ouster. OpenAI caught lightning in a bottle, MS had aligned themselves with the next big thing in tech and then Sutskever threw a grenade that could cause all of that to fall apart.
Can't be serious? This isn't just "a" AI company, it's the AI company. And it might not exist next week if the board doesn't resign.
Bitcoin you would be lucky to mine $1M worth with $1B in credits

Crypto in general you could maybe get $200M worth from $1B in credits. You would likely tank the markets for mineable currencies with just $1B though let alone $13B
What is the conflict here? I do not know much about him but If he actually oversaw building Quora product he must be a POS guy.
This whole fiasco has enough drama than an entire season of HBO Silicon Valley. Truly remarkable.
and then the board will fire Satya Nadella from Microsoft CEO
The person who was thought to be the one to initiate the coup already did lol
You mean his anti-Semitism comments?
What makes you so confident that your own mind isn't a "clever parlor trick"?

Considering how it required no scientific understanding at all, just random chance, a very simple selection mechanism and enough iterations (I'm talking about evolution)?
Ilya has signed the petition, so that's two out of three left.
Why choose 'conspiracy theory' in lieu of 'theory'?
I am getting whiplash trying to keep up with this.
I haven't understood that but then again I don't really understand what the post is about.

I would agree if so with the caveats that it's all fine unless the host language lacks a lot of semantic features that the DSL will add.

Then again, I don't understand the blog post. Is it about programmable programming language?
Either it is or no number is. Would 769/770 be markedly different than 700/770?
3 people, an empty building, $13 billion in cloud credits, and the IP to the top of the line LLM models doesn't sound like the worst way to Kickstart a new venture. Or a pretty sweet retirement.

I've definitely come out worse on some of the screw ups in my life.
I use TikZJax https://tikzjax.com/ (wasm tikz).

It works well, but you have to figure out the markup and dynamically styling the images are difficult; For example, to make darkmode work, I have to apply css filters over the generated svgs.

It also doesn't show anything if javascript is not enabled, so I duplicate the contents into a noscript tag as part of my site's "build" process so users can at least know a tikz diagram is supposed to be there.

I have an entire custom build process though, so that might be why it was straightforward for me to incorporate it.
Wow, I was expecting about half that. I think this would be the second largest DPA ever. BNP Paribas paid $9 billion, Airbus paid $3.9 billion, Wells Fargo $3 billion, ...

I wonder if the SEC/CFTC stuff will be resolved too. That's the deal BitMEX got but this case is way more substantial than just not registering as a money transmitter.
GIMP isn't designed for drawing. Sounds like bullshit, right? But that's what the GIMP manual says: "GIMP is not designed to be used for drawing." https://docs.gimp.org/2.10/en/gimp-using-rectangular.html

Krita on the other hand is designed for drawing and painting.
That's fair. It's indeed a difference in usage.

My only usage of YT is queing up videos for short-term playback. So I browse a feed of my subscriptions in Piped, drag links of videos I'm interested in to a text file, and run a small script on my HTPC to download them with yt-dlp in parallel, and add them to a playlist. With a fast connection, it only takes a few minutes to download even dozens of videos at a time. Then I serve the videos on my LAN over HTTP with nginx, and watch them on any of my devices using any media player that can stream HTTP, which is usually mpv.

I started a project some time ago to make this fancier, but honestly, this workflow does 90% of what I need, and I'm too lazy to change it.

To each their own :)
Why do you find it more dystopian than carrier-operated IoT networks?
Toner and McCauley were both members of the Centre for the Governance of AI. Toner was a Research Affiliate there and Tasha McCauley was on the board of the Centre for the Governance of AI during that time. After Toner left, Open Philanthropy gave a grant to the Centre for the Governance of AI and McCauley joined the OpenAI board along with Toner

A number of other former OpenAI boardmembers were senior members of Open Philanthropy before they left over the past few years to concentrate FT on Open Philanthropy and other projects

> employees at Open Philanthropy could do with the most minor of sign-offs

That employee was Helen Toner before she left.
There's a few things which go into this (hi, I'm the instructor!).

One such reason is historical. Standard ML is a research language, and a significant amount of work on it was done by professors at Carnegie Mellon, who developed the curriculum for this course.

Even setting that aside though, I fully agree with the choice to teach it in SML. For transparency, I work professionally in OCaml, so I am not unfamiliar with it, and I enjoy it quite a bit. That being said, I think that the approach taken by CMU is best summarized as the fact that languages are ephemeral, and the concepts are what matters. We don't teach programming languages, we teach concepts -- so even if SML is not widely used, the tradeoff for having students have a simpler, less distracting, and better learning experience is well worth it.

OCaml has its own intricacies that make things difficult. For instance, you can go down a lot of rabbit holes with `dune` and `utop` and `ocamlc` and `ocamlopt` and all of these things, versus SML/NJ's simple interactive REPL. Another thing is that the language is just generally more "bloated" -- you can teach modules, but then what if a student starts running into first-class modules, recursive modules, or even beyond that, GADTs and classes and objects?

(as an aside, this is my primary reason for why I would not want to teach an introductory course in Haskell. To do anything, you suddenly need to understand the concept of type classes and lazy evaluation, and that's simply too much. I don't know much about the other languages.)

I think teaching is as much enabling students to succeed as it is to prevent them from shooting themselves in the foot. For an anecdote, there is an `Option.valOf` function (of type `'a option -> 'a`), which essentially is just a bad function that should be avoided where possible. Every semester, without fail, even though we never tell students that function exists, students are smart enough to use Google, and will use it anyways, ultimately harming themselves.

I think that same mentality applies to programming language choice, here. Keep it simple, keep it neat, and make sure that the students see what is necessary for their education, and not have to spend mental energy thinking about much more.
Not that I'm aware, please share if there's useful input! Have you read the thread that I linked to? This particular communication had me convinced, look up OP.
> We made a mistake by creating so much automation. We should strive to recreate smaller communities in which more creative AND manual tasks are appreciated.

Those exist?
Precisely. You won’t catch me dead on a Spirit/Frontier flight because I can afford more comfortable/reliable options for the length of flight, but I am not the target demographic. Having cheap options is good in any industry. I fly budget airlines in Europe quite a bit because the $ saved per ounce of discomfort ratio is far higher and am thankful they exist. One’s inability to read the conditions of their fare is not a valid reason to eliminate the option for everyone else.
Let's take all of the insanity of healthcare economics and apply it to food, too! Their conclusion is going to increase the cost of hospital stays by inventing prescription food, which will eventually be required at home for anyone with any illness.
Bait and switch is a dark pattern.
Is it even possible for that to happen? The entity that governs OpenAI is a registered charity with a well defined purpose, it would seem odd for it to be able to just say "Actually, screw our mission let's just sell everything valuable to this for-profit company". A big part of being a 501(c)(3) is being tax exempt, difficult to see the IRS being ok with this. Even if they were the anti-trust implications are huge, difficult to see MS getting this closed without significant risk of anti-trust enforcement.
If they say (development of) AGI is as dangerous as they say it is, it's on a level of WMD. And here you have unstable people and company working on it. Shouldn't it be disbanded by force then? Not that I believe OpenAI has a shot at AGI.
I tried literally everything out there. TikZ is actually the least horrible as far as presentation goes. However it's hard work.

I eventually settled on using Goodnotes on my iPad, drawing them by hand and just exporting the images.
You could also make it so that everyone gets an anonymous vote to decide if the plan is a winner or not, and then only have the AI either deliver the results or serve as a tie breaker
https://archive.today/drJgZ
If it's Google Flights' pricing cache being out of date then that's not an airline dark pattern
(Its also possible there is a website dark pattern designed to make an option to pay less by not choosing your seat really non-obvious: I've never booked with Delta)

The airline would say it's your fault for getting a quote from an aggregator rather than direct from them though
Truth hurts sometimes, eh?
Maybe Google Flights is the issue here?
I always use Kayak.

It shows you with little logos below the price if it includes seat selection, carry on and checked baggage.

For a frequent NYC-MIA flight I take I ran a test.

When I clicked through the first random AA price, and then the first random Delta price option I saw, it took me directly to each airline checkout at the exact price listed.
Incredible. Is this unprecedented or have been other cases in history where the vast majority of employees standup against the board in favor of their CEO?
There will also be a Hollywood movie, for sure.

My friend suggested Michael Cera as both Ilya and Altman
they already signed it over when their for-profit subsidiary made a deal with Microsoft
Wow OCR. How innovative.
You described it yourself. If they'd signed a bad deal with openai without IP access or hadn't acted fast and lost all the talent to Google or something they'd have been screwed. Instead they managed the chaos and made sure that they win no matter what. The genius isn't the person who perfectly predicts all the contrived plot points ahead of time, it's the person who doesn't care since they set things up to win no matter what
Worst security practices of all time.
What inauthenticity? I'm completely authentic. You're the loser that has not stated what their actual beliefs are. Mine are obvious.
I don’t think the democrats and moderates would love the idea of bringing in a country that just elected their equivalent of Donald Trump.
Admirable read for a person like me who buys their tickets through a brick-and-mortar travel agent who books them through an old-fashioned GDS available to travel agents.
Well I am an engineer but I have no problems in buying that in case of forefront tech like AI where things are largely algorithmically exploratory, researchers with PHDs will be considered 'higher' than regular software devs. I have seen similar things happen in chip startups in olden days where relative importance of professional is decided by the nature of problem being solved. but sure to ack your point its just a different job, though the phd may be needed more at this stage of business. one way to gauge relative importance is if the budget were to go down 20% temporarily for a few quarters, which jobs would suffer most loss with least impact to business plan.
But would you say the others besides GPT-4 are unsuitable? That's the claim I find surprising
I'm not convinced that the tests should be the same. A human and a computer aren't the same thing, so why must they be assessed the same way?
I suppose if they have credible offers that changes the calculus.
A low to negative economic Google product that is poorly supported, hard to imagine, right?
The Steve McQueen flick Bullitt w/ the car chase thru San Francisco[0] is a good example of a car chase skipping around (and one that goes thru locations people on HN may be personally familiar with).

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq10zyhe6o0
> he fact that manufacturing a Tesla vehicle produces nearly 2x emissions as manufacturing an equivalent ICE,

And those extra emissions are paid for before the car reaches half its lifetime.
Windows will have a few threads for doing IO at program startup.
Microsoft shipping anything that reliable would be a miracle bigger than AGI.
finance.yahoo.com is the only part of yahoo I use. I recall when google finance was announced and it was utter horse shit and overrun with low quality auto-generated news spam. On a lark I checked if Google had shut it down yet but actually it looks a lot better now. No historical stock prices though :/
Look up quora poe. Basically made obsolete by the devday gpt announcement that precipitated this
Inflation is an unintuitive concept to grasp.

"Wages are up — even accounting for inflation over the past several months..."

Yeah, just disregard the past years and blame it on "Partisanship and negative media bias..."
not to mention how incredibly arrogant it is to think that if you stop, all progress stops. you're in a race and you refuse to acknowledge that anybody else is even around
Yeah, this is it. People who are used to having their ticket price subsidised by other people who don’t have luggage are angry that those other people are no longer subsidising their ticket.

All this, despite the fact that the same ticket with luggage today, adjusted for inflation, is significantly cheaper than it was 20, 40, 60 years ago etc.
On the flip side of this my partner and I recently decided to pay the additional fee to Spirit to ensure that us, our 6 year old, and our 18 month old (traveling on lap) could sit together. We paid extra to sit toward the front of the plane to minimize time on the plane after landing. As we were boarding we were told that we had been moved because the row we were in was the exit row and we could not sit there with a child (though they let us select that row no problem when they wanted more money). They reassigned us to the very last row on the plane with no window for our 6 year old and no refund on our seat selection fee. I will probably just take my chances asking at the gate next time.
Is this from personal knowledge? If so, can you explain how you know this?

I ask because I lived there for 5 years, and anytime I sold dollars for pesos, the cuevas (the place that does the exchange) were extremely picky as to which $100 bills they would take.
This is entertaining in a way, and interesting to follow. But should I, as an ordinary member of mankind, root for one outcome or another? Is it going to matter for me how this ends up? Will AI be more or less safe one or other way, will it be bad for competition, prices, etc etc?
And Quiver itself exports to LaTeX that uses the `tikz-cd` package ("cd" for "commutative diagrams"), if you'd like to use that directly.
>And it might not exist next week if the board doesn't resign.

Huh? Can't they just hire new people instead? They are a non profit org after all.
She works for the RAND Corporation...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38309920

I've read the thread you linked to, it sure sounds interesting but I have insufficient knowledge to weigh in either way. And the rebuttal about the abundance of USAF Colonels also makes sense.
We're all gonna get turned into paperclips, aren't we
Yeah, that's an interesting point. But I think with appropriate RAG techniques and proper citations, a future LLM can get around the copyright issues.

The problem right now with GPT4 is that it's not citing its sources (for non search based stuff), which is immoral and maybe even a valid reason to sue over.
If you enjoy using a vehicle type that has reached the absolute pinnacle of its developement just buy one , treat it good and do proper mantainance, you'll never have to buy another one for the rest of your life.

True for motorcycles, jetskis, skateboards, rollerblades, road bicycles, downhill mountain bikes, light/ultralight planes and helicopters.

There is very very little left to invent for the aforementioned vehicles and design is mostly forced by the physics of the envioronment they operate in.

Figured I'd share something pertaining to the finances of stuff as no doubt lots of comments will focus on the stock/bond/real-estate market.
My opinion: marketing. In my experience, if I tell someone „look here is Lisp“ they turn off and roll the eyes with a „ohh that DEAD origramming language“.
If I instead say „look this new state of the art language called ML“ I get full attention and respect.
Beryll Roehl and the beautiful world of Lego test bricks