skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
In that page linked, she says that OpenAI's system card wasn't a suitable replacement as a "commitment to safety". I feel thats a fair critique even for someone on a non-profit board, unless she's really advocating for systemic change in the way the company operates and does any commercial business.
Oh thanks, I didn't know about that. Will check it out!
if thats the case why didnt they just stuff the board when they had the chance?
Who cares honestly?
Well, also, the descriptive text in FTC press releases is't law, not even administrative law.
"nuggets of gold" implies that the bulk of it is not gold. If reference someone, saying even a broken clock is right twice a day is that really an endorsement?
Nothing stops you from adding `<style> * { display: flex }</style>` to your index.html
I just deleted it. I'll figure out what to do with all of the emails about all of the comments later. Probably something fun with sentiment analysis and large language models.
A misaligned AI could act aligned in the service of its interests, just like an employee trying to steal from a company would act like a good honest employee. Methods for getting AIs to visibly act a certain way aren't necessarily sufficient to control advanced AI systems.
>This at least explains why they fired Sam in such a haphazard way.

The timing of it makes sense, but the haphazard way it was done is only explained by inexperience.
I think it’s becoming more and more clear they were acting out of incompetence, I really doubt there’ll come to light a justifiable reason for their actions.
I've never seen that!

Where?

That feels like it helps at least a bit, maybe.
Sure, but it should be possible to run enough tests to show the error over X frames doesn't cross Y. Then you can learn on that model and validate on the real thing (and use it to fine-tune if needed). The chosen action has very little effect after a few frames anyway.
> Not sure how someone is meant to parse that

Someone is meant to use context and understand that when the context clearly refers to someone who is well known to be a member of the board of directors, 'advisory board member' means that they are a board member in an advisory role, aka a nonexec.

That assumes that someone is familiar with the structure and makeup of boards of directors. It's a bit rude to participate in a conversation if you're not familiar with the subject matter and the meaning of words-in-context as you just waste peoples time making them elaborate.
Plenty of evidence for gluten intolerances in non-celiac autoimmune diseases. Not conclusive, but I find it frustrating that there’s a growing number of people who dismiss gluten intolerance as a myth when we barely understand most autoimmune diseases as it is. It’s far more complicated and nuanced than people want to make it out to be, but it’s increasingly treated like homeopathy or worse. Patients with diseases like this that find an improvement in quality of life after a dietary restriction is implemented deserve our respect.
Why would you even dump your loot in Borderlands? Money is absolutely meaningless in that game. You look at the comparison box to see if there are more green arrows and if not you leave it.
It's covered. Second line.
Why is that? I didn't think outgoing board members got to control who replaced them.

Other board members elect replacements iirc
"you will feel his wrath through the Azure clouds above you"
> There are a few last-minute issues which deserve to be documented — probably somewhere on the FreeBSD website, but I can post to my blog much faster and hopefully we'll get these onto the FreeBSD website later.

> [...]

> If you find my work on FreeBSD useful, please consider sponsoring my work. At a certain point, time and money are fungible, and the combination of maintaining the FreeBSD/EC2 platform and my newly acquired release engineering duties adds up to a significant draw on my time.

Would the author have been able to include his personal donation pitch if this was only published on the FreeBSD site?

https://freebsdfoundation.org/ might be a better choice, to include the various contributors.
> Not only are a rather decent number of AI developers and researchers who are Chinese, perhaps, and likely, some of the best in the world

I didn't dispute that. In fact, I brought it up.

> only manufacturing center for the GPU/CPUs needed to run the things

they don't have the designs and sanctions by American companies are surprisingly already in place and historically effective.

Finally, you are presupposing that "slowing down" in America means moving slower than China. Not only is that not necessarily the case, I don't think it's even really possible. This research can be done on readily available gaming GPU's if needed. Do you really think the US will intentionally cripple these markets in this fashion? More likely, companies will lobby for the opposite.

Any slowing down done by the US will amount to virtue signaling.
Just tried now, and it was pretty good. Some slight accent that I wasn't able to detect (Minas Gerais?). Similar / better than the artificial voice of other assistants in pt-br. I'm using Sky's voice, FWIW.
Anyone can submit a patch on the C side to make this less of a problem, but if it's not a problem for most people on the C side, why wouldn't it get fixed in go or rust instead?

The cycle goes: "it's hard to support a lot of platforms" -> "let's support a common interface" -> "posix sucks" -> "it's hard to support a lot of platforms"

Changing posix means distributing your work among all of the platforms rather than adding your own implementations and confirming they work on everything. Not likely to get buy in unless something is causing problems for whoever is paying those platform developers, or libc maintainers.
It's a no brainier.
Honestly, I actually believe the books2 corpus controversy is true. Where else, other than library genesis, would they come across 500B tokens of books? Considering books1 is 50B and they describe that as open domain books, what's left would seem to me to be books that they don't have the rights to use or right to have digitally. I'm not bemoaning them for it. I'd do the same thing because I don't really give af about copyright laws. It also seems obvious by the way each were treated in the training process. They pretty much say that while books1 corpus was trained on several times, they used books2 far less. That's exactly what I would say to cover my ass so that when I'm caught, I can tell them, "Look, though, we barely even used it. In fact, the paper overstates our use. As far as remember, we only used the table of contents. And not even the whole table of contents. Just a fraction of it. Are you gonna arrest me for using a fraction of the table of contents?"
> This person is too far gone. Life isn't a movie.

This comment is a credibility killer. "This person", as a member of the board of a non-profit, has a duty to keep the non-profit on mission, and even to call for its dissolution if that isn't possible.
Helen Toner through her association with Open Philanthropy donated $30 Million dollars to OpenAI early on. That's how she got on the board.

https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board
I suspect his popularity is mostly about employees who want to maintain the value of their equity: https://nitter.net/JacquesThibs/status/1727134087176204410#m

Wild guess: If the board stands its ground, appoints a reasonable new CEO, and employees understand that OpenAI will continue to be a hot startup, most of them will stay with the company due to their equity
How much creatine, if I may ask?
This is really interesting. It makes perfect sense that they weren't sitting at 6 board members for 9 months because Sam and the others didn't see the implications, but because they saw them all too well and were gridlocked.

But then it gets interesting inferring things from there. Obviously sama and gdb were on one side (call it team Speed), and Helen Toner on the other (team Safety). I think McCauley is with Toner (some connection I read about which I don't remember now: maybe RAND or something?).

But what about D'Angelo and Ilya? For the gridlock, one would have to be on each side. Naively I'd expect tech CEO to be Speed and Ilya Safety, but what would have precipitated the switch Friday? If D'Angelo wanted to implode the company due to conflict of interest, wouldn't he just have sided with Team Safety earlier?

But maybe Team Speed vs Team Safety isn't the same as Team Fire Sam vs Team Don't. I could see that one as Helen, Tasha, and Adam vs Sam, GDB, and Ilya. And, that also makes sense to me in that Ilya seems the most likely to flip for reasons, which also lines up with his regret and contrition. But then that raises the question of what made him flip? A scary exchange with prototype GPT5, which made him weigh his Safety side more highly than his loyalty to Sam?
+1. Would love to see some more concrete applications, but these are great concepts.
Regarding child abductions specifically, there's two independent benefits to teh "strength in numbers" strategy. For one, children playing in groups are less likely to be victims, and secondly, if everyone's kids went out and played, its less likely that any single one of them would be the victim. If no kids play and your kid and his/her friend are the only available targets, then sadly it is more likely something will happen to them.
But the 2400 blunders the queen in the opening for seemingly no reason? Then Magnus gives it back to be nice? I don't know what's going on there, maybe they're both hammered.
Turn off “Slide to Type” in the settings if you don’t use it. This appears to increase accuracy in my experience.
This will most likely get thrown out in court. The executive branch can't grant itself new powers.
“They analysed evidence about microbial infections or symptoms in people exposed or not to air treatment technologies in 32 studies, all conducted in real world settings like schools or care homes.

So far none of the studies of air treatment started during the Covid era have been published.”

Another plea to publish negative findings and reward researchers who do such studies. They are often more impactful for real world decision making than a mild positive finding.
Fei-Fei Li did not do an amazing job while leading Google Cloud’s AI/ML efforts. Why should she be a speaking authority here.
It's absolutely not easy to build an airplane.

It's incredibly difficult to build an airplane, especially a completely new design.

It's absolutely impossible to do that at the same time as making one that will last 30-50 years and have a low failure rate.

What is difficult, incredibly expensive, and very time-consuming, but possible - barely - is starting with the first airplane and eventually getting to the second.

The first is the job of a Skunk Works. The second is the job of more traditional aerospace organizations.
Non-profits and for-profits aren't comparable. The latter have a duty to make money. The former has a duty to its mission.
What do you mean? Schmidt was on Apple's board for 3 years while he was CEO of Google. Do you think Google did not criticise Apple during that whole time (remember that the CEO is ultimately responsible for the company communications)?

Even more in the case of OpenAI, the board member is on the board of a non-profit, those are typical much more independent and very often more critical of the decisions made by other board members. Just search for board members criticising medical/charity/government boards they are sitting on, there are plenty.

That's not even considering if the article was in fact critical.
> I completely agree, which is why Dagger is perfect for medium/large projects.

Initially that was the case, but with the upcoming work on modules (aka project Zenith), hopefully this changes. After all, IMO the ultimate aspects that will make it super easy to adopt is the ecosystem and learning how to use the tool. The later is mostly tackled by the "pick your favorite language" story; the former is where we hope modules can help users the most.
Where are you seeing counterfeits? AliExpress, Ebay, Amazon?
> Microsoft can't spend good will erasing the entire board and replacing it,

because they don't have the power to as they do not have any stake in the governing non-profit.
> the code constructing the code is hard to categorize

Agreed, I thought you'd have some insight. IMO you painted with too a broad brush in your OP. Articles that are specific get derailed by overly-broad replies.

This article is a decade old but sadly still relevant. I hope a day will come that it won't be.

> Did you think that I was being completely random

As I already said, I thought it was a non-sequitur.

Stop with the personal obsession, I just want to chat.
it would be really surprising if a writer as prolific and literate as moldbug didn't occasionally produce nuggets of gold
Did Helen's publication conflict with the charter though?

I'd say the OpenAI employees are the ones with the conflict of interest, since they stand to get rich if the company does well, independent of whether the charter is being upheld.
Ugh. Sorry to hear that, what a nightmare. First world countries tend to be better in this respect. I'm in the UK, and the worst that I've seen is that you need a phone to receive text messages for 2FA from the bank. What if you're abroad and can't receive those text messages??
The surgical procedure was a resounding success. The patient died.
The "leader of the coup" has changed each day. First it was Ilya, then D'Angelo because of Poe, then Toner because he criticized her paper.
I think it gives them security because it constantly reinforces their existing world-views. It repeatedly shocks them and then leads them back to the same set of beliefs so they feel comforted that they're the right ones, and all those other people are causing the horror. Right and left wing media do this. It's the utter opposite of challenging you to think and decide.
Yeah, whisper is pretty good out of the box in my experience, but the vast majority of the time I’m using it in my car. So the conditions aren’t ideal, or are out of distribution for Whisper. However CarPlay is detectable and common enough from what I’ve heard.

Second, even if the transcription is correct, it cuts me off at inappropriate times. It’s hard to talk naturally without pauses.

I haven’t used a better transcription model, no.
AI's Challenge of Understanding the World
I don't know where are you from, but imagine your country being under devastating economic sanctions, then bombarded by enormously more powerful armies, then annexing a part of the country, all of that against international law. Make that process displace hundreds of thousands of people. Now when you imagine that, be honest with yourself and see if you would keep conversations at weather and sport.
I don't doubt that Yarvin has racist views. I do take issue with people insisting that Scott agrees with Yarvin by mere virtue of association, despite the Scott's clear explicit refutations of neo reactionaries.
I couldn't find this? Can you link this claim?
It's covered with a vague line that would also cover merely having a disagreement with.
This is the most amazing part of the article imo:

Ms. Toner disagreed. The board’s mission is to ensure that the company creates artificial intelligence that “benefits all of humanity,” and if the company was destroyed, she said, that could be consistent with its mission. In the board’s view, OpenAI would be stronger without Mr. Altman.

Corporate suicidal ideation.
Don't do this please.
> Sam Altman played a stupid game, founding a sham nonprofit instead of a startup, and won a stupid prize when the board fired him for dishonesty.

What dishonesty? I'm sympathetic to this version of events, but if it's true then the board ought to be able to give specifics - and if they can't then the strident tone of the initial announcement was unjustified.
They're giving up all the profits from whoever they would have been sold to otherwise.

So it adds up the same.
If there's one thing I've learned here it's that message boards are the absolute worst way to keep up with any amount of nuance and/or ongoing developments.

The irony that my comment will likely be buried under dozens others is not lost on me.
This is also because in Google you tend to get more easily promoted once you launch a new product, than when you do maintenance.

So the most logical course at this stage, based on typical politics at Google, would be to shutdown Bard, and launch a new product instead (like what has happened with all the messengers / social network apps)
Classic CEO worship. There's no reason to believe that he's more important than many of the other key figures in the company.
Maybe Sam wanted to redirect Ilya's GPUs to ChatGPT after DevDay surge. 20% of OpenAI's GPUs are allocated to Ilya's team.
Equilibrium movie review and film summary (2002)
Let's recall the CEO is employed by the board, not the other way around.
> 'advisory board member' means that they are a board member in an advisory role, aka a nonexec

No, those are not synonyms. Advisory boards are distinct from the board of directors. Advisory board members have roles similar to what you alluded to in your original comment and do not have fiduciary duties, hence my confusion.

Non-exec board members are not involved with day-to-day business operations but their fiduciary duties are no different than exec members.

Language has meaning. Don't insult others for your own clumsy usage.
Sure, but anyone who’s experienced a runtime error knows that what we want and what they’re told can be two different things.

For a real world example of automated systems gone wrong check out the flash crash of 2010: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_flash_crash

To be clear I don’t think the risk is “AI gone rogue” it’s either corporations gone rogue or powerful automated systems glitching and causing chaos.
That’s rational and a fair critique. On the other hand, I can make the money number bigger. I’ll let you guess which wins out in my case.
Except, the facts behind Sam's firing will inevitably come out, and it won't be possible to brush it under the carpet. I think they hoped the facts wouldn't come out, and they could just give a hand-wavey explanation, but that's clearly not going to happen. It seems they have well and truly shot themselves in the feet, and they will likely have to be replaced now.
I think it’s also mentioned the article that they have failed to add new members to the board due to the disagreement between the board members.
That's only if temperature=0.0 which is not the case by default. Otherwise the output has entropy.
Any organization that needs to worry about this ruling has access to a legal department who can interpret it for them.
Pledged $30 million, $10 million per year for three years, but most likely only $20 million received. Elon Musk gave $40 million. There is also $70 million in mystery "other income" in the 990's that is missing the required explanation (nature and source.)

OpenAI is operated at a public charity and is required to meet a "public support test" of 33%, so Musk could not have given his $40 million without the $20 million from Open Philanthropy, an EA supported public charity. In fact, most of Open Philanthropy's money went to OpenAI.

Public charities are also required to have less than a majority of the board be employees or relatives of employees. For a while, after Elon Musk was removed, Holden Karnofsky of Open Philanthropy was the only non-employee on the board.
GitHub has GitHub Enterprise Server?
I haven't yet seen any competitor come close to what we've achieved at my startup https://olympia.chat - very humanlike assistants crafted specifically for solopreneurs and bootstrapped startups
I haven't looked enough into Smalltalk's history — thank you for the pointer!

Although the "language levels" I'd mentioned previously are implemented with macros, the underlying concept is a little deeper than that and I don't know of an earlier example of such a system! Certainly the Lisps and Schemes did a lot of macro work, but they did not tailor applications of that work to CS education in the same way (to the best of my admittedly limited knowledge).
If your contention is that we should more frankly discuss IQ disparities, pretending we're talking about height was a strange way to go about it.

In those emails, SA does not say he thinks these questions deserve more study -- he says they're "probably partially true". Again, in that context he's talking about Steve Sailer's views.

Yes, I'm focusing on a few sentences. Do you think he wrote those by accident? That the words came out wrong and the straightforward reading was not his intent? In the context of the rest of his emails, and his writing on e.g. Albion's Seed, I do not think that is likely.
> Tailwind would be a lot more appealing to me if it was coupled with some system where I could say "class X inherits from tailwind classes A, B and C" and thus have a layer of abstraction over just writing properties.

This mindset is the problem. You don't want or need this abstraction in the CSS, what you want is to encapsulate these styles properties in a reusable "HTML component", and then use that component wherever needed. It then carries those style properties into every instantiation. What use are semantic style classes in this context? Atomic CSS makes perfect sense in this context and makes composable development a breeze by comparison.
Indeed, only his VP that believes the US-backed coup was fake news.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/29/argentina-deni...

I love how libertarians are in favour of the state murdering 22 thousands people. Freedom!
It’s bubbles all the way down.
> The important thing for the non-profit arm is the mission, its own existence is secondary.

So OpenAI should just shut down because the charitable donations were not enough to keep the lights on.
Sounds like Sam was attempting to fix the board membership.

OpenAI had grown massively since some of the board members were installed. Some of them were simply not the caliber of people that one would have running such a prestigious institution, especially not with the weight they had due to the board being depopulated. Sam realized this and maybe was attempting to address the issue.

Some of the members (ahem, Helen, Tasha and to a lesser extent Adam) liked their positions and struck first, probably convincing poor Ilya that this was about AI safety.

Being lightweights they did not do any pre-work or planning, they just plowed ahead. They didn't think through that Sam and Greg have added tremendous value to the company and that the company would favor them far over the board that added zero value. They didn't think through that tech in general would see rain makers and value creators being cut loose and side with them instead of figureheads. They didn't think that partners and customers, who dealt with Sam and Greg daily would be find the move disconcerting (at a minimum). They didn't even think through who would be the next CEO.

Maybe they didn't think it through since they didn't care. There was only upside for them since Sam was going to get rid of them sooner or later. They didn't see that having been on the OpenAI board was an honor and enormous career boost. Or maybe their ambition was so great that nothing mattered but controlling OpenAI.

Further, they thought that if they slandered Sam that he would be cowed and that they would retain their power. I wonder how many times they had pulled this stunt in the past and it worked?
<cue soap opera dramatic background organ chords>. Dah-dah-daaah. Is this gossip really important enough for anyone to care about, outside of a small circle of friends?