skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yes, all the reporting pointed to his attempts to raise money externally for an AI chip company, and specifically soliciting sovereign wealth funds.

I could understand board concerns about him being spread too thin, but more chip competition would pretty clearly benefit OpenAI as a large consumer of GPU chips, and this is very different than any sort of allegation around mishandling of funds (which has been ruled out by several people anyway).
I do agree that some merging of the threads (like the Verge article and the Twitter post) is in order.
> This is what happens when free market capitalism and anti-competitive rules are absent from your system

I'd argue the opposite, if OpenAI was a pure for-profit company, none of this would have happened. If it was traded publicly, the board would probably be facing charges right now.
2015, even :) https://brandur.org/postgres-queues
Let’s not confuse domain-driven design with data driven design.

Most architects would assign the DDD acronym to Domain-Driven Design.

</pedantic-rant>
> but Sam will be powerless without OpenAI

Sam will be leading a new division at Microsoft. He will do alright now that he has access to all of the required resources.

> better to observe rather than dig for an entity or a person

Yes agreed. I don't know much about Sam personally and don't care. OpenAI itself has not made any fundamental breakthroughs in AI research. AI is much bigger than these two.
Apple's walled gardens are probably a good thing for safe AI, though they're a lot quieter about their research — I somehow missed that they even had any published papers until I went looking: https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/
I have to add two adjacent subtitle-related stupidities on Netflix:

1. Closed captions (CC). Okay, I'm willing to accept they improve the experience of a show / movie for a non-zero number of people. What I absolutely don't accept is CC being the ONLY VERSION OF ENGLISH SUBTITLES available. Either CC or nothing. I can't be the only one who prefers English subtitles for English-spoken media, while NOT needing every single sound described as [wet squelching] or [quirky synth music].

(Bonus points for everyone who recognizes those specific examples ↑)

2. Subtitles in all-caps. For the entire movie. Just why? If I'm able to read the text in time at all (it is widely known that words and sentences in all-caps are slower to read), then I'll just feel everyone's screaming all the time, even if they aren't. Whose idea was this? And also here, to my knowledge it only affects English. (I believe all Nolan movies got this "treatment" for example.)

There have been several occasions where even though it was readily available for me to stream from Netflix, I pirated a show or movie anyway, specifically to avoid one or both of these issues.
In what way did he save something?
Focusing on "global earnings" is disingenuous and dismissive.

In the US, and particularly in California, there is a huge quality of life change going from 100K/yr to 500K/yr (you can potentially afford a house, for starters) and a significant quality of life change going from 500K/yr to getting millions in an IPO and never having to work again if you don't want to.

How those numbers line up to the rest of the world does not matter.
Stories with lots of comments get a ranking penalty. It's done with intentions of stopping flame wars. (I don't know if it's effective.) It happens around 40 comments or so.
OpenAI's co-founder Ilya Sutskever and more than 500 other employees have threatened to quit the embattled company after its board dramatically fired CEO Sam Altman. In an open letter to the company's board, which voted to oust Altman on Friday, the group said it is obvious 'that you are incapable of overseeing OpenAI'. Sutskever is a member of the board and backed the decision to fire Altman, before tweeting his 'regret' on Monday and adding his name to the letter. Employees who signed the letter said that if the board does not step down, they 'may choose to resign' en masse and join 'the newly announced Microsoft subsidiary run by Sam Altman'.
Some in the ML community think a simpler language has advantages over a more expressive one, in some cases.

For example: https://github.com/fsharp/fslang-suggestions/issues/243#issu...
Sure, updated my comment to be less rude.
Sure, so is gravity. The Wikipedia page on gravity doesn't include such a disclaimer.
NVK reaches Vulkan 1.0 conformance
15-150: Principles of Functional Programming
There is also something to be said about who is the larger trade partner. If you do more trade with the US than the Eurozone, makes more sense to choose the dollar.
if you think that china can't get access to gpus because the united states says so then you are incredibly naive. of course they can get access to gpus. they could buy them on the black market or buy them through another country or just steal them. they are literally made in taiwan right next to and right under the thumb of china.
https://dub.sh/code-theft
This is Microsoft desperately trying to preserve the value of their misguided investment in OAI.
Flights Are Experiencing 'Unthinkable' GPS Attacks and Nobody Knows What to Do
So from the context of a non-profit, profit (as in revenue - expenses) is money to be used for future expenses.

So yeah, Mayo Cinic makes a $2B profit. That is not money going to shareholders though, that's funds for a future building or increasing salaries or expanding research or something, it supposedly has to be used for the mission. What is the outrage of these orgs making this kind of profit?
If it was nationalised all the talent would leave anyway, as the government can't pay close to the compensation they were getting.
That would mean you can't sell children as slaves or meat, but not that you can't sell custody of children.
Wouldn't this happen organically by removing all KYC needs for a bank account and then mandating that banks cannot refuse to open a dollar denominated bank account and also cannot refuse to convert Pesos to Dollars?

Then it would leave to commercial banks the task to procure themselves enough dollars
Helen Toner funded OpenAI with $30M, which was enough to get a board seat at the time.
He does not regret the participation, he regrets the outcome and what it means for his personal career.
>A lot of us will be happy if a repairable phone costs me twice as much, but lasts 3 times as long because we won't have to throw the entire thing away and buy a new one when a tiny IC, a battery or the display fails.

Isn't the fairphone basically this?
Your example of http://endpoint/item.json to me would imply that this is a static file- item.json -being served from the web server; whereas the explicit content-negotiated endpoint implies I'm hitting the endpoint item which will dynamically provide me a computed list of items.
I just tested this in firefox on ubuntu. Three subsequent new tab tests.

Load: 4.34s, 5.14, 2.96, 3.35

DOMContentLoaded: 3.65s, 4.56, 2.92, 3.33

Finish: 13.14s, 10.77, 8.49, 12.02

So it's getting a bit faster over time, but still heinous, and crucially, it isn't hanging on requests. Individual asset GET/POST requests are taking tens of ms, worst was a few parallel 254ms GETs on a cold start. Usually 50-70ms. But there is a flurry of requests, then a period of very few requests until 5s after init, then another flurry.

Firefox 119.0 Ubuntu 22.04 uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger

Same OS, chrome 115.0.5790.170, no blockers, youtube is much snappier, it still definitely takes a few seconds to paint thumbnails, but it's basically done by 5s. DOMContentloaded is never more than 1.75s, finish <8s.

Firefox private window with blockers off has similar time statistics. But actually doubleclick.net is still getting bounced.
> Even a lot of billionaires disapprove of that.

Yeah, a few of them are very high-profile in that [1], but they're a) an utter minority (there's ~3k of billionaires vs 236 that signed the Giving Pledge) and b) for most of them, even if they'd give away 90% of their wealth, their kids would still be effectively landed gentry. It's a sham to placate the masses.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giving_Pledge
Its about incentives though.
Screenshots of entire OpenAI fiasco on X
Question for California IP/employment law experts -
1) would you have expected the IP-sharing agreement between MS and OpenAI to contain some provisions for employee poaching, within the constraints allowed by California (?) law?
2) California law has good provisions for workers' rights to leave one company and go to another, but what does it all for company A to do when entering an IP-sharing relationship with company B?
If linux was not free - we would not be having this conversation and we would live in a drastically different world.
What do we know about non profit boards?
A lot of the SemiAnalysis posts are just conjecture (and the authors opinions) stated as fact. You can see this play out in their many Qualcomm vs ARM posts.

It’s been brought up several times in the past but people seem to respond more to the drama that they put forward, rather than factually correct information.
All languages have some amount of historical baggage, but I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

If anything, Haskell gets a lot of eyerolls for its slow moving pace and for trying to build a language from mathematical first principles.

It's not perfect (eg.: Monad was not designed to be a special case of Applicative in the beginning, I believe) but it's better at "avoiding baggage" than many other languages I know of.
Ilya torched peoples' retirements by signaling that it would be very hard to cash out in OpenAI as it is now. You don't have to be emotional to understand the consequence of that action, just logical. You have to think beyond your own narrow perspective for a minute.
Microsoft never “saved” Apple and this myth needs to die.

Microsoft invested $250 Million in Apple after it already had a multi billion line of credit.

On top of that, Apple turned around and the same quarter spent $100 million to buy out PowerComputings Mac assets. It was three years and much more than $150 million in losses later that Apple became profitable.

And that $250 million was also partially to settle a lawsuit over Microsoft stealing QuickTime source code for its own media player. This is separate from the look and feel lawsuit.
Very timely release in terms of interoperability. Auto caching seems like a no-brainer too. Nice job team for shipping this past weekend
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No this isn't what's going on. Even when you admit your mistakes it's good to elucidate the reasoning behind why and what led up to the mistake in the first place.

Such a short vague statement isn't characteristic of a normal human who is genuinely remorseful of his prior decisions.

This statement is more characteristic of a person with a gun to his head getting forced to say something.

This is more likely what is going on. Powerful people are forcing this situation to occur.
The book only takes like an hour to read you know.
> there's more of everything and everything is cheaper

And I don't believe that this is what we should optimise for. "More of everything, for cheaper" somehow doesn't seem to make people happier. I think that more shared ownership is more important, especially if you consider the effects of increased inequality on intangible goods such as democracy (e.g. how currently a few tech companies can influence global political discourse).

But even if I was willing to concede your point, somehow most people who argue for "pure meritocratic capitalism" never seem to suggest that we should have a 100% inheritance tax. Because people being born into wealth is exactly one of the reasons why "non-efficient people" (a problematic term in and of itself, btw) end up accumulating a lot of capital.

(I don't personally believe we should have a 100% inheritance tax, although I think it should be higher than it is right now in most places, but I think that this would be an almost inevitable conclusion of a "purely meritocratic" conception of economics.)
Anarcho-capitalism provides suitable conditions for strongmen, religious leaders, little feudal lords to impose their views on the less powerful, so I don't necessarily view a contradiction.
Entire history of fiasco on X

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SWnabqe1PviVE3K7KIZsN4IA...
I think they underestimated the hate of an internet crowd post crypto and meme stocks, now completely blindsided by the investment angle especially in the current AI hype. Like why do people now care so much about Microsoft seriously? Or Altman? I can see why Ilya only focused on the real mission could miss how the crowd could perceive a threat to their future investment opportunities, or worse threatening the whole AI hype.
> Yeah but 10,000 connections is WAY past any reasonable motherboard lifespan.

I just don't believe that those connectors last that long in the real world. My personal experience and observations indicate that they don't. Or, at least, they're much less robust than earlier USB connector designs.
I wonder if it is just a coincidence that 5s is the time before a skippable ad becomes skippable?
We know the org structure. It's not possible.
It just makes more sense to build it in an entity with better funding and commercialization. There will be advanced 2-3 AIs and the most humane one doesn't necessarily win out. It is the one that has the most resources, is used and supported by most people and can do a lot. At this point it doesn't seem OpenAI can get that. It seems to be a lose-lose to stay at open AI - you lose the money and the potential to create something impactful and safe.

It is wrong to assume Microsoft cannot build a safe AI especially within a separate OpenAI-2, better than the for-profit in a non-profit structure.
No mention of port forwarding? No mention of split-tunneling? No mention of browser-only clients (extensions)?
Thanks!
Sam Altman and Greg will join Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team
What is the point of generating wealth if not to pass it down to your children?

In your value system, is blowing it on yourself better?

EDIT: to be clear, the main point of generating wealth is to generate value for society. Society then pays you for that value with the wealth that you get... Now I am pointing out that on the personal level, helping your future generations is a totally admirable goal.
Yes, Koka is evidently a inspiration for Roc, which uses Perceus, in-place mutation and their effect system is called "abilities". Roc aims to be something like the "practical version" of Koka('s ideas).
Ask HN: What's Up with FedNow?
Is there hope for a widely-supported instant payment system in the US that I can integrate with directly as a developer or as a small business or non-profit?

There was a lot of buzz in July when it launched but I'm curious about how things have moved forward since then, and what things are planned on the horizon.
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If you look at our board of advisors, you'll see that we have top artists, top business people, respected gallerists, curators, and studio directors, all of whom know plenty about what artists need. Every single one of them has an incredible reputation and supports Inversion because they believe in both the mission and that we founders have integrity about our approach to achieving it.
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I don't think cherry-picked examples mean much. But even so, you don't seem to be answering the question, which was "how will being a non-profit stop other people behaving unethically?"
And where will their compute come from to continue to run their expensive models and serve their customers? From the company that just stole all their employees?
> The tricky detail is that this means it is unsafe to read/modify the environment through other means, but sometimes this is really hard to avoid.

If you have C and Rust in the same process and C code calls setenv(3), for one ...

Edit: why downvotes? It's very typical to link to C libraries which may call the libc environment stuff ... My point is you can't control library code as easily, if it's some dependency of a dependency eventually calling libc.
"Except that there is a post-credits scene in this sci-fi movie where Altman shows up for his first day of work at Microsoft with a box of his personal effects, and the box starts glowing and chuckles ominously. And in the sequel, six months later, he builds Microsoft God in Box, we are all enslaved by robots, the nonprofit board is like “we told you so,” and the godlike AI is like “ahahaha you fools, you trusted in the formalities of corporate governance, I outwitted you easily!” If your main worry is that Sam Altman is going to build a rogue AI unless he is checked by a nonprofit board, this weekend’s events did not improve matters!"

Reading Matt Levine is such a joy.
Nice work. Tbh the tech stack should be open sourced so it could be easily picked up and improved by a larger community
Agree. DACH countries are among the most desirable for immigrants globally. Natives are hyper self-aware about their desirability and one can feel it when negotiating a job with them or making business with them. Many immigrants (ehem.... expats) masochistically buy into their hosts' superiority. Well if suffering if fun for them... in the end masochism is invention of German speaking world.
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“attempted to raise” is not the same as “funneled”, which connotes actual fraud. you discredit yourself by being imprecise.
Why do so many e/acc people run boring B2B service startups?
I’m all for colonizing mars or whatever but whenever you drill into an e/acc Twitter guy’s background he’s always running/investing in the most banal corporate business imaginable. Slack but 0.5% better (AI powered!!)

And their customers are always other identical companies, sloshing VC money around in a circle with no ex-ecosystem revenue. All of SV feels so sclerotic, including all the super disappointing LLM stuff.
I think the surprising thing is seeing such cohesion around a “goal to ship” when that is very explicitly NOT the stated priorities of the company in its charter or messaging or status as a non-profit.
> I don't think that release was a surprise to the board

Unless this is exactly the kind of lack of "candor" and "break of communications with Sam" really meant, on the original accusations after the firing.

Either that or Adam wasn't paying attention (?), or told Sam not to, and Sam went ahead and still did it as a big fuck you to Adam.

Given how buggy GPTs are (you can't even set up actions with auth, "internal server error") that seems like a very hurried release. Maybe hurried enough so that the board didn't even see it coming.
Disloyalty to the board due to overwhelming loyalty to the CEO isn't really an issue. I've interviewed for tech positions where a chat with the CEO is part of the interview process, I've never chatted with the board.
I appreciate the context because it sheds further light on a big problem with Elm the project, but that context doesn't change what he said, which simply wasn't that harsh or mean. Like, from your original comment, I expected some kind of personal attack on the other person lol
It seems like you tried used copilot did you? To me the best thing about it is not the full function generation, which doesn't work very reliably, it's to finish the end of the line, when you already know what you will type, and it just types it for you faster. It feels like magic and checking the code is extrême fast as it's just one line, much faster than writing it.
> I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman.

I expect there's a huge amount of peer pressure here. Even for employees who are motivated more by principles than money, they may perceive that the wind is blowing in Altman's direction and if they don't play along, they will find themselves effectively blacklisted from the AI industry.
Was it due to incompetence though? The way it has played out has made me feel it was always doomed. It is apparent that those concerned with AI safety were gravely concerned with the direction the company was taking, and were losing power rapidly. This move by the board may have simply done in one weekend what was going to happen anyways over the coming months/years anyways.
> I don't really understanding why the workforce is swinging unambiguously behind Altman.

Maybe because the alternative is being led by lunatics who think like this:

You also informed the leadership team that allowing the company to be destroyed “would be consistent with the mission.”

to which the only possible reaction is

What

The

Fuck?

That right there is what happens when you let "AI ethics" people get control of something. Why would anyone work for people who believe that OpenAI's mission is consistent with self-destruction? This is a comic book super-villain style of "ethics", one in which you conclude the village had to be destroyed in order to save it.

If you are a normal person, you want to work for people who think that your daily office output is actually pretty cool, not something that's going to destroy the world. A lot of people have asked what Altman was doing there and why people there are so loyal to him. It's obvious now that Altman's primary role at OpenAI was to be a normal leader that isn't in the grip of the EA Basilisk cult.
You don't need cloud for the compute.
Han shot first
The problem isn't setenv() so much as getenv returns raw pointers to the data structure that is potentially being manipulated.

But this is/was strictly a glibc/Linux bug because maintainers in the past didn't want to improve the situation (read add locks which weren't 100% reliable) nor add thread safe version of the calls: ex getenv_s/getenv_r as pretty much every other POSIX compliant system has done.

And so the situation I hit many years ago was a proprietary library doing setenv's before fork() has now been fixed (and me calling those routines from multiple threads), and setenv() on linux/glibc is now working if it's built with locking:

https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=stdlib/sete...

So the remaining issue is making the environment thread safe, which means adding a getenv_r/s call and assuring its being used everywhere, which is probably a more complex problem than tossing the setenv() lock. But then in the setenv/fork case the forked process is a crapshoot whether it gets the "right" environment. In my case above it didn't really matter because the library was doing the equivalent of `export YOURACHILD=1` so the value wasn't being changed from invocation to invocation.

But there are dozens and dozens of other similar gochas in the spec, where error conditions or threading races exist and aren't noticeable until one understands how it is being implemented. There isn't a way to fix it with the library itself because many of the calls need more stored context space (ala win32 handles). So one ends up doing things like building serialization locks into the application to assure certain subsets of the posix/c/etc libraries aren't being called in parallel. (in this case getenv/setenv/fork).