skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
And it would immediately be bought up by Microsoft anyway. Best case is a Satoshi-like entity cracks the code and releases his solution anonymously. But we saw even in that case it took less than a decade for Blockstream/CIA/NSA to hijack the Bitcoin GitHub repo and run that project into the ground.
The interesting question is that now that things are a little bit settled what should we expect.

Some thoughts that seem obvious:
- OpenAI to slow down progress with newer models and double down on AI safety.
- Microsoft to boost the LLMs that it has - competing with Google, Amazon, and OpenAI.

As for which OpenAI employees leave - I imagine we will see answers in the next few days.

But what about...
- Is the GPT Store going to still happen?
- What is going to happen with the GPT-5 training?
- Was there an AGI breakthrough?
Get hit by a self driving car for science
Shouldn't it be 'Chairman' -Xi?
You might be thinking of Hanlon’s razor, but I suppose both might give the same answer.
I believe it's operating by the mantra of "doing the things that don't scale"
Ask HN: Where to ask feedback on a landing page design?
Hey, first time founder!

I've worked a lot with backend in the past (databases, MLs, APIs, etc), but this my first attempt at building a product from start to finish, including designing the landing pages and marketing pages.

I am building an article generator: https://aimd.app/

I had a chance to learn SEO/content principles from people who are responsible for creating content strategy for some of the most successful startups. The main thing that I want to achieve with this tool is to allow teams of one to create highly valuable content with references to authoritative sources _and_ suggest how to link this content to the rest of the content on their websites. I think I can automate hours of work by combining LLMs with scraping. That's all for now. Just wanted to set context about the product direction. It is still very early days!
This has been a rather apt demonstration of the way that auctoritas/authority/prestige/charisma can carry the day regardless of where the formal authority might be.
500 people out of 700 leaving as fast as they get offers from Microsoft or elsewhere means replacing staff with empty office space and losing any plans or organization. A literal corporate war would be less disruptive.
Looks like Ilya asked GTP4 to produce an empathetic support message.
> that all of this is about selling OpenAI to Microsoft

By whom? Unless everyone is corrupt and getting kickback from MS it doesn't make sense. Board made first move (public), if they wanted to sell to MS they could have just taken 20 billion dollars by selling 30% stake, giving equity to employees and Sam and using the money for its alignment research. For Sam and MS to have colluded, he should have hoodwinked board into making the move which may be possible but far fetched.
It's not only about who creates it but who controls/owns the AGI/AI. The company or group could get an enormous moat and without intervention that gap only widens.
Somebody warn the West.
Or maybe they created an evil-AGI-GPT by mistake, and now they have to act randomly and in the most unexpected ways to confuse evil-AGI-GPT’s predictive powers.
Everyone always forgets there's two parts to Hanlon's razor:

> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (1), but don't rule out malice. (2)
Or someone on the board has a feverant/religious like belief about the risks of AGI and wants to delay it by basically destroying the company. Those with religious-like beliefs can appear to act irrationally to everyone else.
3. To be truly useful, you have to send your company's proprietary code to a 3rd-party AI, which may or may not use it for training their AI, or which may or may not have security issues and leak your proprietary code. Yes, we do this already with GitHub/GitLab, etc. but those are mature and (AFAIK) haven't had big security issues like OpenAI has had in the past year.
4. For ChatGPT at least, you have to give them your phone number to sign up. For me this is a deal-breaker, but I get others are fine with it.
You blinked. That's on you. When you look the other way for 15 minutes you have two hours of reading to catch up with.
I tend to agree, but when I mention Combustion Engine I don't necessarily mean cars. Cars are indeed just an optimization of horses, depending on how you think.

Railways and Ocean Freighters, on the other hand, enable some pretty incredible cases. They allow food and goods to reach otherwise impossible places, regardless of the seasons, which allowed previously impossible developments.

And then there's airplanes
Its not love, its money. Sam will brings all the employees lots of money (through commercialization) and this change threatens to disrupt that plan for the employees.
You can actually setup ublock0 to do this for you too. At one point I'd used it to blur distracting sites, but like you, I found fully blocking the content(which the blurring effectively did) led to me disabling the block. I'll try this technique out, it's a good idea.

Here's how you can do it with ublock:

www.reddit.com##img:style(filter: blur(10px);)
www.reddit.com##body:style(filter: grayscale(1);)
I know that users do that, and they shouldn't, but your post was certainly flamebait, as well as personal, as well as an internet trope ("tell me without telling me"), and the site guidelines ask you to avoid all of that.

It's certainly possible to make your substantive points thoughtfully, and in the spirit of curiosity that is supposed to be the core value here. Why not do that instead? If you really want to educate people, you'll get much further that way.
>Mozilla did more harm than google, like killing Servo

Look, no offense, but to do "harm" by killing Servo, people would have had to have been using Servo, or there would need to be a clear path to people using Servo, which there wasn't, really. The parts of Servo which were technically viable in any reasonable timespan were already mainlined into Firefox.

>embedding Pocket

You genuinely think this is "more harm" than Google? Seriously? Not to mention that Pocket is a non-Google source of profit for Mozilla.

>and let's not forget how they siphoned the money they made with their Google contract, they chose to fund their other questionable endeavors instead

"questionable endeavors" like, um, Rust and Servo? You're ignoring the successes while only alluding to failures. I like both Rust and Servo, but say what you will about Firefox OS, at least it presented new market opportunities. Rust and Servo did not.

>When you choose to sell your user base to google, you are part of the problem

Please suggest a viable business model for Mozilla, then.
There was a period of time when sites pretty much worked everywhere. In the last five years or so, the number of sites that only work in Chrome was risen precipitously. It's either malice or incompetence, and I have no trouble believing either.
I find it really odd that people refer to the people involved on a first name basis.

It's like there's a fan club for high-profile individuals involved in tech.
The Altman drama was planned by MSFT to dismantle OpenAI as such and merge it totally with them.

And as I keep telling people: do not let big biz do AI; do not let AI be closed/proprietary systems.
Do not ascribe incompetence to anyone in a position of power, because incompetence at scale is indistinguishable from malice.
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It begs the question: why was OpenAI structured this way? For what purposes besides potentially defrauding investors and the government exist for wrapping a for-profit business in a nonprofit? From a governance standpoint it makes no sense, because a nonprofit board doesn't have the same legal obligations to represent shareholders that a for-profit business does. And why did so many investors choose to seed a business that was playing such a cooky shell game?
That's assuming that large language models or transformers are the key to AGI, which is looking increasingly unlikely:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.00871
Do we have any that can reliably detect and surface the errors/flaws in your comment though, in a productive/positive manner? ;)
I don't like to jump to conclusions, but I'm going to jump to malice if their purported solution for user experience is time.sleep(5) based on a user agent lookup, and conditional on when their antiadblock fails to work.
I think it’s a mistake to confuse either of them for greed.
Not really, no. Like Elm, it strips away practically everything that wasn't already in 1970s-era ML. It's much closer to a trimmed-down Ocaml than it is to Haskell.
MS was happy to take the money till Sun, Google and OSS folks decided everything should be free. Now can't complain if free is proving to be costly.
This side-by-side treatment of Dambusters is good fun too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNdb03Hw18M

No trench at all! They just had to skip the bomb off the surface of the water...
> but it now feels possible

"Feels" I think is the right word. Depends on how you even define AGI I guess (not sure anyone is able to clearly define it in non scifi terms).
Waiting for US govt to enter the chat. They can't let OpenAI squander world-leading tech and talent; and nationalizing a nonprofit would come with zero shareholders to compensate.
> No builders there wanted this except one I guess (llya).

Ilya signed the letter, too, and has posted an apology[0].

[0] - https://nitter.net/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20
The problem with that is... humanity is doing a good enough job of messing things up without AGI. So if AGI was delayed by such, there's a non-zero chance humanity fails to create AGI or survive in the new timeline.

Between the Earth's climate/environment being wrecked (we're well into some of the pessimistic projections for the 2050's) and SARS being allowed to run unchecked playing Russian Roulette with peoples' health (including literal brain damage), we're going to need a miracle.
I'm not so sure, imagine if Argentina pretended to elect a "communist" that then seized some American assets in the country and planned to hand them to the Chinese?

The tricky bit is making sure the resulting US occupation becomes long lasting, I think you would have to store away substantial amounts of money to bribe a gaggle of senators for a few decades to make incorporation possible.
Depending on where you live you may have an Equifax score, Experian score, Transunion score, etc though.
You’re saying that Meta and Microsoft want to be acquired by Alphabet/Google? That doesn’t make a lot of sense.
meh, that's the case for all sorts of apps, not only google things. Looking for "tinder" gives me a Hinge ad as first result.
80 columns were also important. Some 8-bitters couldn't even produce 40 columns. The Beeb could handle 80 columns and so was used in all sorts of areas.

But I'd argue that PCs had unequivocal advantage when 386s came out.
Now do oil companies and big pharma.
about 1.5%, so a bit but not earth shattering (although that does represent about $40bn in market cap)
> .... Sam said the night before he was fired that he saw something that is way farther along than anyone would expect.

Reads like a teaser to a thriller. I just wonder what is that he saw that night?

Like the "monolith" scene from the Kubrick's Odissey
This is anecdotal, but my experience has been the opposite. I briefly switched to Chrome some years ago because everyone else was and the dev tools were genuinely better, but as a user it felt clunky and slow, so I switched back to Firefox. They pretty quickly got their act together wrt to the debugger and such and so I only ever dropped into Chrome for work and to this day it's still clunky and slow. I never understood why anyone would want to stay with Chrome especially with Google ramping up their shenanigans.
> People like Sam and Satya expect people to be self-interested and not tear everything down.

Bingo. I think there is also a factor of this being a non-profit board, where the board is not beholden to shareholders in the same way. For example, you presumably have no standing to sue a NP BOD for breach of fiduciary duty vs. a corporate BOD. I don't know the intricacies of the laws surrounding this, but I expect that the none-Microsoft investors in OpenAI who are seeing their investments dissolve in real time are probably asking their lawyers that right now.

Adam D'Angelo seems like someone acting in their own self-interest and that of his company, Quora. The move to bring in Emmett Shear at the 11th hour seems like a move right out of his playbook. What exactly does Adam stand to gain from a weakened or destroyed OpenAI?
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> When you cede control to others, you open the possibility of them doing unexpected things. Why is this a surprise to the author?

It's not. The author is summarizing things that don't seem to make sense based on current info - i.e. the author wasn't surprised, but is wondering why Altman was.
> It must have been something about late 70s / early 80s USA that made everyone feel like we were on the verge of corporate takeover of government. Understandably, I suppose.

Rise of mass media and opaque conglomerates along with the poor economics of late 70's through 80's that saw many (mostly) manufacturing jobs get nuked by boardrooms.
The vast majority of those people have their job in peril by a GPT-5. And GPT-4 could already cover for at least 20% of them...
Next question: where can I get Lightning banknotes for offline payments?
I've read from multiple sources that they don't have the assets but couldn't they sell off state industries to gather enough assets? I thought one of the new President's plans was to privatize everything there.
I just heard a Korean proverb:

There are three unavoidable things in life: Death, Taxes and Samsung =)
Who is satam/matas?

Do we know their background?

I'm a bit wary of consuming information from anonymous sources.
Who do these upstarts think they are? The board needs to immediately sack them all to regain its authority, and that of capitalism itself. /s

Really, though, its getting beyond hilarious. And I reckon Nadella is chuckling quietly to himself as he makes another nineteen-dimensional chess move.
> $10 million plus ($1e7+)

Who is this article written for? Who doesn't know what $10 million is but knows what $1e7 is?
Absolutely. Description is now advocacy.
This article seems to be coming from a perspective that Microsoft somehow poached Sam and team. After looking at the events of the weekend, it's clear to me that the OpenAI board is solely responsible for the events that conspired. I imagine the timeline of events will be studied in the future as an example of how not to fire your CEO.
You don't have to visit HN. And if you want to read about other subjects you can just ignore these links. There is no way that HN will ignore what is happening to OpenAI because it is the company that has had the most effect on the tech world in the last two years.
Literally no one involved has said what was the original reason. Mira, Ilya & the rest of the board didn't tell. Sam & Greg didn't tell. Satya & other investors didn't tell. None of the staff incl. Karpathy were told, so ofc they are not going to take the side that kept them in the dark). Emmett was told before he decided to take the interim CEO job, and STILL didn't tell what it was. This whole thing is just so weird. It's like peeking at a forbidden artifact and now everyone has a spell cast upon them.
In our society, why should they be expected to build for free? Unless you only hire previously wealthy individuals the idea that there's this class of selfless scientists at the top of their field that don't need to pay a mortgage or support a family is absurd.
It's a bad idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQuHSQXxsjM
Equador

The Case of Ecuador https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/The-Case-of-Ecua...
I found funny the $1e7+ notation.
My question would be around how much does it cost? Maybe give examples of output without a signup. Basically, you're asking people to create an account for an unknown result and cost. I'd also maybe mention something like save X hours vs doing this yourself. What can people get using this that they cannot get with ChatGPT for example? Maybe have a demo video or something that walks people through it.

edit: So, after reading a bit more you crawl the customers website and find seo ideas? I'm not really sure how it works. Maybe have something up front that really walks the person through it.

I like the comic book design of the website. Looks very cool by the way.
The problem is that understanding the motivation doesn't change the result. You may come to understand that the tiger isn't eating you because it hates you, but rather it's just eating you because it's hungry; yet that doesn't change the fact that tiger is eating you. Hanlon's razor is a meme that is too often used to defend and excuse the malicious incompetence of the powerful.
Ilya seems to be the guy telling people to stop building under some vague safety fears
I feel the same. However, how much of this is actually one being faster/slower than the other, and how much is really just subjectiveness one could train away. And now: how much of this is due to deliberate sabotage.
Part of sama's job was to turn the crank on the servers every couple of hours, so no surprise that they are winding down by now.
A $13B lawsuit against Microsoft Corporation clearly in the wrong surely is an easy one.
Artificial intelligence in geophysics: beyond the black box
archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20231120071356/https://www.nytim...
Why did it take Windows 11? (Haven't personally used it, but having helped my dad and my coworkers try to navigate it... it does seem pretty terrible. I thought Windows 10 was supposed to fold on to just... 'Windows' with rolling updates?)

I've been using Linux for a while. Since 2010 I sort of actively try to avoid using anything else. (On desktops/laptops.)
Inside OpenAI, Elon Musk's Wild Plan to Set Artificial Intelligence Free (2016)
Microsoft is a publicly traded company. An average “investor” of a publicly traded company, through all the funds and managers, is a midwestern school teacher.
Clearly, a left-leaning currency is one supported by an economy based on facts, and a right-leaning currency is supported by an economy based on feelings.

I don't know how this helps, though.
I doubt Apple would be allowed to. It would give them too much power over their competitors which are dependent on Qualcomm.
No, here is a plausible chain of events:

1. Sam Altman announces a competing product to poe (gpt store).

2. D'Angelo sees it and want to stop it.

3. D'Angelo accuses Sam Altman of trying to go against the non-profit mission by making for-profit products without telling the board, saying that Sam Altman can no longer be trusted.

4. The remaining board sees that Sam Altman didn't talk to them about this feature beforehand so agree with D'Angelo.
Also https://poe.com/adam
But what if you’re 15 books into your fictional universe, and during one chapter, it turns out a major faction has extremely important ancient texts. And then as soon as those texts are discovered, they’re flippantly burned because actually they’re not important at all! The most important thing is to just be yourself.

It’s bad writing. If they wanted to discard something sacred, they could have taken something which was actually in the series and discarded _that_. They sort of did this by ruining Luke’s character, only to reverse it at the end and have him save the day anyway. Really, Luke’s characterization really follows the same pattern. He was strongly characterized in all the other Star Wars films. Then Last Jedi throws this out the window for no reason whatsoever. Then by the time you’ve accepted that he’s a loser now, he steps up and saves the day. All more or less within the blink of an eye.

They’re just setting up a subverting expectations for the sake of doing so. It’s terrible writing, and terrible storytelling.
Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense. - Paraphrasing Mark Twain
> Most hospitals are nonprofits, yet they still make substantial profits and overcharge customers.

They don't make large profits otherwise they wouldn't be nonprofits. They do have massive revenues and will find ways to spend the money they receive or hoard it internally as much as they can. There are lots of games they can play with the money, but experiencing profits is one thing they can't do.
There are the superficial features and then there are the super features built so deeply in the architecture they can be game-changing and invisible at the same time. (e.g going from XML to JSON is trivial in comparison, it wouldn't matter if it went to ASN.1 and EBCDIC)

ActivityPub puts timestamps on things so you can ask your Mastodon server for everything that's been updated since the last time you polled. RSS makes you poll over and over again and download everything. so instead of downloading X kb of content you could be downloading 20X kb if you are polling too fast, alternately you could be losing content if you poll to slow.

It is routine for ActivityPub servers to work in an aggregating mode so I can subscribe to 2000 Mastodon users who are spread across 300 servers and still be able to update my feed by making one request.

To be fair, RSS aggregation is a thing, or at least used to be a thing see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_(software)

There are numerous reasons why "RSS died" but one of them is surely that phones became more popular than desktops and it is absolutely unthinkable that a phone would be polling and polling and polling hundreds of severs all day... It would kill your battery!

My smart RSS reader YOShInOn uses

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfeedr

for the ingestion front end which provides an ideal API from my point of view. When a new feed item comes in Superfeedr sends an https request to an AWS lambda function, that stores the feed items into an SQS queue, and YOShInOn's ingest script fetches items from its queue at its convenience. The one trouble with it is that it costs 10 cents/feed/month... It's quite affordable if I want to subscribe to 100 feeds (which I do currently) but subscribing to 2000 independent blogs that get one post a week is getting pricey.

On the flip side is the effect this all has on servers: I think people are often looking at Google Analytics now and not looking at their http logs, if they did they might find there is a huge amount of polling going on and not a lot of clarity on how this connects to users. There's the strange story of Feedburner, which offered some analytics for feeds and then got bought by Google. I think the best kept secret of black hat SEO in the early 2010s was that anything you put in a "burned" RSS feed was certain to get indexed in Google's web search index almost immediately. (I'd hear other people on forums complaining about pages they put up that were perfectly fine and not spammy but would go unindexed for 2-3 months.) If you wanted to get 200,000 slightly spammy pages indexed your best bet was to set up WordPress and roll the content over the
course of a few weeks.*
I don't think that release was a surprise to the board, so wouldn't that happen before the release?
This is a brilliant experiment. Argentina already has an awful economy, and if this fixes everything, then we have a template to perhaps fix some other economies. Deregulation is good for GDP, but is complete deregulation better? Let's find out!
Thank you, of course!
I’m a bit confused with these comments, as if he is some low level engineer. He is on the board, he obviously talks to other people in the upper levels. It’s not just online mob whatsoever, you literally will be facing the people who aren’t supporting your actions. Every day.

Some people change their minds, maybe they made a mistake, nobody knows. It’s like fog of war, and everyone just makes speculations without any evidence.
I think this is about as likely as practical fusion power being created by hobbyists.