skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I would however say: A lot of the real, and effective "conspiracies"/propaganda aren't so much dozens of thousands of people all acting in secret and coordination and such. It's usually a much smaller group of people kind of pushing a somewhat larger group of people into a certain direction, which then starts to move larger groups around.

As you said, you don't send people into the street to yell at other people how the soviets are evil and we need to arm up. You rather plant ideas into the heads of a few influential people in hollywood, then give them cool toys and props for the movie, and let it roll downhill from there.

This is similar to work - and we're not large with ~150 techies in the company. But it has grown impossible to directly steer all different teams. Instead, you have to see that the right trailblazing teams are going into the right directions and possibly make sure that service requests moving into the right direction are quick, and service requests moving in the wrong direction.. well either roughly stay in the SLA or get blocked.
What would be the benefit of Sam returning to OpenAI now that he has unlimited MSFT dollars, presumably actual equity, and his pick of 700 OpenAI employees (and counting!)?
So, this is the second employee revolt with massive threats to quit in a couple days (when the threats with a deadline in the first one were largely not carried out)?
What is unclear to me is what Microsoft has access to and can use from OpenAI.

If OpenAI implodes or somehow survives independently, would this mean that the former employees that are now at Microsoft have to re-implement everything?

Clearly Microsoft has a massive financial stake in OpenAI, but do they own IP? The software? The product? The service? Can they simply "fork" OpenAI as a whole, or are there limitations?
There's a non-zero chance he was also used as a pawn to deliver the message, but who could be manipulating him then? There's so little actual detail give by anyone in the loop and I think that's what's amplifying the drama so much.

Even if the board's motive was weak and unconvincing, I doubt the ratio of employees threatening to quit would be this high had they just said it openly.
I mean, you can't vote to drop CEO without knowing...
White House surveillance program gives cops access to trillions of phone records
Wait, what antisemitic posts?
Ilya was/is on the board, and was present when the firing occurred. He had no obligation to be at that snap meeting if he wasn’t going along with it.

Besides, considering it was four against two, they would’ve needed him for the decisive vote anyway.

I’m not sure why you wouldn’t trust Sam Altman‘s account of what Ilya did and didn’t do considering Ilya himself is siding with Sam now.
It's looking at humans, how they're trained and their wetware makes me believe that AGI, as most people understand it, ie a super human like intelligence, will never exist. There will be powerful AI but it won't be human like in the way people think about it now.
wow, that's horrible and predatory.
sueball!
If I was able to haggle I might not have such a problem with it. But this cannot possibly be called haggling, as there is no ability to communicate with somebody and make a counter-offer.
United's website. Though I saw the same thing happening on AA. Google Flights had some fluctuation too but it wasn't always reliable to have the same price once visiting the actual website from the link.
Good question. Potentially: Liability based on their decisions. If it turns out those were not ultimately motivated by actual concern for the good of the company then they have a lot of problems.
Those are news from almost yesterday. This is a high turn carousel. Try to keep up... :-)
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Conspiracy theories that involve reptilian overlords and ancient aliens are suspect. Conspiracy theories that involve collusion to makes massive amounts of money are expected and should be the treated as the most likely scenario. Occam's razor does not apply to human behavior, as humans will do the most twisted things to gain power and wealth.

My theory of what happened is identical to yours, and is frankly one of the only theories that makes any sense. Everything else points to these people being mentally ill and irrational, and their success technically and monetarily does not point to that. It would be absurd to think they clown-showed themselves into billions of dollars.
Is it not like saying that any individual worth nothing because their social value is zero outside a collective?
> there's no valid reason to use it except at the very beginning of the program.

POSIX doesn't define the "beginning of a program." Nor do you, if you're compiling C code. Libraries can (and do) spawn threads before main, so it's not even safe to use if you restrict yourself to "only the beginning of the program."

> The most common misuse I see is changing env before forking a child: nobody has to do that, execve() lets you pass arbitrary envp to the new process without changing yours.

Just remember to do it before fork() and not between fork() and exec() because you probably want to copy the existing envp and allocators usually aren't async signal safe. If you want to be sure to be correct, use posix_spawn to create a child process.

--

I think it's fair to say "setenv is buggy" in the sense that the POSIX specification for setenv guarantees it to be buggy in most programs that think they should be using it. What makes it an even bigger footgun is that the path of least resistance for people who need/want the behavior is the most difficult to use correctly. POSIX is full of shit like this, and "you should know better" isn't a good enough excuse.

It's like saying "hey you should have known unless you press the doohickey for 5 seconds and turn the chainsaw at 90 degrees when you start it, the chain is going to fly off."
USD is their biggest market.
Yeah that was not allowed. We started off managing our own DevOps in our own AWS region even, separate from the rest of the company. Eventually the DevOps team mandated we move to the same region as everyone else, and then soon after that there was enough conflict with my (offshore) team and DevOps (onshore) that DevOps demanded and got complete control over our DevOps, though not infrastructure.
The point was that EV manufacturing is definetly not free of emissions. And all car owners switching to EVs is resposible for a lot of upfront environemtnal damage, not just "saving the world" as they like to tell themselves.
So i can't check this at work, but have we seen the document they've all been signing? I'm just curious as to how we're getting this information
> Apple's agreements limit "feature competition" within peer-to-peer payment apps, including prohibiting existing or new platforms from using "decentralized cryptocurrency technology," the complaint said.

> The lawsuit seeks an injunction that could force Apple to divest or segregate its Apple Cash business

> The plaintiffs in the new lawsuit alleged Apple, Venmo and Cash App "have repeatedly raised prices for transactions and services with no competitive check."

> They argued that a peer-to-peer app based on "decentralized" crypto technology "would allow iPhone users to send payments to each other without any intermediary at all."

> The lawsuit said Apple has excluded from its App Store at least two Bitcoin wallet apps, Zeus and Damus, which is backed by Block founder Jack Dorsey.

If I understand the claim correctly, the plaintiffs are arguing that Apple is colluding with Paypal and Cashapp to restrict cryptocurrency wallet apps from the App Store, which drives up the cost of p2p payments?

Good luck I guess.
If you expect perfect factual accuracy from your teachers, yeah. On the flip side, they don't have the curse of knowledge yet i.e. it's still fresh in their mind what was difficult in the beginning, so they can probably explain very well. Just keep in mind who's teaching you, and it's just like if a co-student teaches you.

And if you feel you have to take what you hear with a grain of salt, that's probably good for your learning too.
It will _definitely_ become a book (hopefully not by Michael Lewis) and a film. I have non-tech friends who are casual ChatGPT users, and some who aren't - who are glued to this story.
Deep Learning Framework in Common Lisp
For those of us who are unfamiliar with Lisps, can you expand on how they break referential transparency (and how Standard ML contrasts in that regard)?
Frugal + no kids + good pay.

That let me pay my mortgage early, which became a multiplier on my ability to save and invest. At this point, 3.5 days per week pays me enough to live comfortably on. When I was negotiating my last offer I asked for shorter working hours instead of more money. They accepted.
Did you make anything on those NFTs?
A theorem is a true statement (truth verified by proof). You mean conjecture.
One might argue that humans do a similar thing. And that the structure that allows the LLM to realistically "mimic" human communication is its intelligence.
Again, the value is not the issue. Perpetual payment is. My post was very clear.
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basically an episode of reality TV for wantrepenuers.
Given 90%, including leadership, seems a bad career move for remaining people not to sign, even if you agreed with the board's action.
I think Fogus was able to summarize it quite well in his "Six works of Computer Science-Fiction" blog post [0]:

"Wirth’s magnum opus is the quintessential example of Computer Science alternative-history world-building."

Note that Oberon was not only the name of a programming language, it was also the name of an innovative (at that time) operating system.
It is possible to program real-world programs today in Oberon depending on the used implementation. For example oberonc [1] is a compiler targeting the JVM and allows you to leverage the JVM ecosystem by invoking Java code (or any other language that compiles to Java bytecode).
For more Oberon implementations see [2]

[0] http://blog.fogus.me/2015/04/27/six-works-of-computer-scienc...

[1] https://github.com/lboasso/oberonc

[2] http://oberon07.com/compilers.xhtml
My company called them the DevOps Team
The irony of the first extremely successful collective action in silicon valley being taken in order to save the job of a soon-to-be billionaire....

Jokes aside though I do wonder if this will awaken some degree of "class consciousness" among tech employees more generally.
I'd love a modern Palm phone, myself. With the same pixelated, minimalist interface.
It's a sparse model, which means you only need to load the "experts" that you're going to use for a given input.
Seems pretty apropros for a mission pre-brief. Ask pretty much any military type sitting in one of these meetings how well the "intelligence" held up in the field.
Do the people who design these dark patterns get paid more than honest people?

What are the LinkedIn keywords used to identify these roles?

Is it along the lines of “growth hacking?”

There has to be a name for this job and I am just too dumb and naive to know it at the moment.

Help, please.
.... obviously.....
Watching it now
Because the mission is visibly abandoned. There's nothing "open" about OpenAI. We may not know how the mission was abandoned but we know Sam was CEO, hence responsible.
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I made a chrome extension to manage browser tabs using natural language instructions (e.g. "close all hackernews tabs").

I built it for myself and find it especially useful when I have a ton of tabs open. Just set your OpenAI API key (stored locally in your browser) and you're all set!

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> Doesn't "full employment" mean there are more jobs than there are workers?

I don't see how that's unusual or problematic: There will always be more jobs than workers, because "jobs" are really just wishes unless they get filled, and there's no limit on wishes or their unreasonableness.

I mean, I can confidently promise a job, right now, for anyone to do an in-person walking survey of the surface of Pluto for 1 cent per day--employee is responsible for their own transportation. Even in a "full employment" economy, that 1-more-job-than-workers can linger indefinitely, unfulfilled.

If we modify it to "more fair jobs than workers", that doesn't help much because it's a pretty subjective evaluation and some would say "fair" is itself dependent on the supply and demand.
Jobs was fired from Apple, and a number of employees followed him to Next.

Different, but that's the closest parallel.
My theory is the Cruise leadership created an expectation that they were ahead of Waymo, based on focusing on SF rather than Phoenix suburbs. Then Waymo rolled into SF with their 5th gen platform and progressed faster than expected, and the heat was on.
Do you realize without support by Microsoft:

- There would be no GPT-3

- There would be no GPT-4

- There would be no DALL-E 2

- There would be no DALL-E 3

- There would be no Whisper

- There would be no OpenAI TTS

- OpenAI would be bankrupt?

There's no "open version" of OpenAI that actually exists. Elon Musk pledged money then tried to blackmail them into becoming the CEO, then bailed, leaving them to burn.

Sam Altman, good or bad, saved the company with his Microsoft partnership.
I’ve noticed really confusing upgrade prompts pop up when buying tickets from major airlines, including an upgrade that made the price higher than First Class on the same flight. It included a seat upgrade if available, meaning you could end up very little for the money you spent. If you were to simply click the Main Extra seat you wanted in the seating chart, you’d pay way less. The upgrade did have some refund terms that were not included in a normal ticket, but it deliberately appeared in a way to obfuscate the option to simply upgrade a seat (or to first class.)
Feels like extortion.

The Mafia's bigger brother.
When I travel with family, the only way to get seats together was to not select seats. Online I'm presented with a map of just middle seats left, but if I wait until the gate for my seat there's magically adjacent seats so some of them.
It’s pretty bad https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/17/white-hou...
Mimicking human communication may or may not be relevant to AGI, depending on how its cashed out. Why think LLMs haven't captured a significant portion of how humans think and speak, i.e. the computational structure of thought, thus represent a significant step towards AGI?
It French revolution time over there. heads are flying angry mobs. Fun times
Now this is the most plausable theory i've seen so far.
If they actually believe that the thing burning to the ground is more closely aligned with the charter than keeping Altman around, maybe not. (And the letter everyone is signing says the board said that)
Is that conflict of interest larger or smaller than the conflict of interest created when your CEO tries to found a business that would be a critical supplier to OpenAI?
First of all, for many people, AGI just means general purpose rather than specific purpose AI. So there is a strong argument to make that that has been achieved with some of the the models.

For other people, it's about how close it is to human performance and human diversity of tasks. In that case, at least GPT-4 is pretty close. There are clearly some types of things that it can't do even as well as your dog at the moment, but the list of those things has been shrinking with every release.

If by AGI you mean, creating a fully alive digital simulation/emulation of human, I will give you that, it's probably not on that path.

If you are incorrectly equating AGI and superintelligence, ASI is not the same thing.
Matt Rife looks like a good fit to play Altman
Look, I'm not saying her fears are unwarranted, but you have to help me understand where the dark patterns are in airline pricing. They show 1-2 seats remaining, but those are usually accurate... not like Booking.com or other shady booking sites.

When booking from first-party airline websites, I rarely have issues with unexpected prices popping up. Each "add-on" is clearly delineated.

The rise of even lower pricing tiers like Basic Economy on United also have their benefits (and severe restrictions) spelled out throughout the booking process.
>due to the antisemitic posts.

He can't be suspended for posts that didn't happen.
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You can get a second hand RTX 3090 with $800. So in theory you could build a cluster with less than $40k for all hardware. Not that this is pocket change, but given the capabilities of such a model the expense doesn’t sound that much.
>False dichotomy

I don’t think you know what this means
Now you are on to something...
Wow, this is extremely useful information, it ties all the pieces together. Surprised it hasn't been reported elsewhere.
I always enjoyed when it would do something like get the wrong task altogether, but what really annoyed me was when it started giving me tips on how to do other things.

"You can also..."
I do not understand this lawsuit.

> The plaintiffs in the new lawsuit alleged Apple, Venmo and Cash App "have repeatedly raised prices for transactions and services with no competitive check."

They are arguing there is no competitive check between three companies who are competing with each other.

My assumption here is they are trying to claim that the fact Apple hasn't enabled/allowed specific Crypto wallets on the App Store – despite their being numerous Crypto wallets on the App Store – necessarily restricts competition because if people used crypto to send money to each other, they wouldn't have to pay transaction fees – which are already $0 for the vast majority of p2p use cases in Venmo, Cash, etc.

This lawsuit will go nowhere.
How is one commercial entity better than another?
Ask HN: How will the $900K median OpenAI salary work if employed at Microsoft?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36460082

Could be a tough one for human resources at Microsoft to navigate.
Punishing people who were never victimizers and promoting people who were never victims for the sake of equity doesn't address the problems of a single parent household and the consequences it has for children, but that is proposed for the sake of Equity all the time
There are couple of entities who predict what the fed will do at their next quarterly meeting. I think St Louis Fed is one of them? I don’t know that “traders” can ever be said to have a consensus about anything.
Residing in the UAE also wouldn't prevent extraordinary rendition should it come to that...
The only way this story gets more suspenseful:

1) Large military convoys are seen moving towards data centers used by OpenAI.
2) Rumors start going around that GPT-5 demonstrated very unusual behavior towards end of testing last week.
3) "Unknown entity" has somehow gained control of key US infrastructure.
4) Emergency server shut down procedures at key Microsoft Azure data centers rumored to run GPT-5 inference have been kicked off but all data centers personnel have been evacuated because of "unknown reasons."
Well, they have that right. But the board has unclean hands to put it mildly and seems to have been obsessed with their own affairs more than with the end result for OpenAI which is against everything a competent board should have stood for. So they had better pop an amazing rabbit of a reason out of their high hat or it is going to end in tears. You can't just kick the porcelain cupboard like this from the position of a board member without consequences if you do not have a very valid reason, and that reason needs to be twice as good if there is a perceived conflict of interest.
That would at least make a more damned sense than "everyone is wildly incompetent." At some point Hanlon's razor starts to strain credulity.
He went full-bore on commercialization, scale, and growth. He started to ignore the 'non-profit mission'. He forced out shoddy, underprovisioned product to be first to market. While talking about safety out one side of his mouth, he was pushing "move fast and break things", "build a moat and become a monopoly asap" typical profit-driven hypergrowth mindset on the other.

Not to mention that he was aggressively fundraising for two companies that would be either be OpenAI's customer or sell products to OpenAI.

If OpenAI wants commercial hypergrowth pushing out untested stuff as quickly as possible in typical SV style they should get Altman back. But that does seem to contradict their mission. Why are they even a nonprofit? They should just restructure into a full for-profit juggernaut and stop living in contradiction.
Exactly.

All this "AI safety" stuff is at this point pure innuendo.
17 principles for systematically solving problems in computer science
Unreliable enough to say "screw this" and use the regular app and set up pi-hole
Well now i'm using a user agent switcher to lie to Google about what browser i'm using. Telling them chrome, it's Firefox. Thanks for the heads-up.
Unlikely because that could just as easily benefit OpenAI.
> If I send you 2023-10-29T02:15NO, how do you know if it's +01:00 or +02:00?

I think instead you'd send a timestamp (unix or NTFS or TAI or other) annotated with "Norway", and you would not send the offset.

> Similarly, if Norway suddenly decided to switch their offset to be 15 minutes back, how will you handle that when reading previously recorded timestamps?

Am I that bad at explaining this?

If Norway changes their offset, they will change it as of a specific moment in time. Times before that moment use the old offset, times after that moment use the new offset. The timezone database doesn't just store one or two offsets for a location, it stores every offset that has ever been used.

Checking whether you're before or after 5am on Feb 29th 2024 for a 15 minute change uses the same code as checking whether you're inside any particular year's version of summer time.
> just build new cities less around cars and let people choose that life if they want

We should modify existing cities with better transit and make them hostile to cars, and then offer excellent car transfer points. If you want to use the city, use the train.
Surely you aren't misinterpreting what I said as "electric cars literally didn't exist" instead of "electric cars existed in inconsequential numbers"? That would be a tad disingenuous.
Stock equivalent in RSUs with a 4-year vesting schedule, as is typical of acquihires.
Give or take, yes.

Like you said, it’s a bit more complicated than that and every body is different. But burning roughly 3500 calories will result in the body weighing roughly 1lb less (accounting for food and water intake and loss).

If it didn’t work this way, every bodybuilder and fitness enthusiast on the planet would have a very different approach to their diet.
Shipping code causes incidents. Microsoft has shipped more features on github in the year they acquired it than github did 5 years before that.
okay, i finally understand how the world works.

if it is important stuff, then it is necessary to write everything in a lowercase letters.

what i understood from recent events in tech is that whatever people say or do, capital beats ideology and the only value that comes forth is through capital. where does this take us then?

to a comment like this. why?

because no matter what people think inside, the outside world is full of wolves. the one who is capable of eating everyone is the king. there is an easy way to do that. be nice. even if you are not. act nice. even if you are not. will people notice it? yes. but would they care? for 10 min, 20 min or even 1 day. sooner or later they will forget the facade as long as you deliver things.
I would imagine he would have leverage to get a pretty good deal if OpenAI want him back
They won't be directly employed at Microsoft. Instead they will be employed by a subsidiary owned by Microsoft.