skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I don't know whether I have "like-minded views", but I think the risk is there, and it is not fantastical to me because the AGI doesn't need to "do" anything outside of humans assisting it -- no killer robots or nanobots. It just needs to persuade humans to kill for it, or gather resources for it, and so on. And because it's an AGI, it has superhuman abilities for persuasion.

The intuition for GPT-4 being on the way towards superhuman intelligence or persuasion abilities is that the only significant difference between it and GPT-3 appears to be the amount of compute power applied to training.

The previous US President was much less than superhuman, and he still managed to seriously threaten democracy in the US, and by extension cause a minor existential risk to civilization. Imagine what a more intelligent agent with enough attention to be personally persuasive instead of generically persuasive could achieve for itself, given a goal. (If you think that LLMs can't express goals or preferences, read some of the Bing Sydney transcripts.)
Of course money wins in the end
You know, it's this kind of dogged almost pointless 'something is wrong' which I value immensely. As a former Dec vt100 and adm5 person, thank you for restoring my ^g expectations.

Any vi user knows ESC leads to bell in 99% of cases.
That people turned against her is relevant because it demonstrates how untenable this standard of independence is. A charter is just a collection of words. She isn't a board member to a collection of words. She's a board member to an organization of people
And it's often not.
Also, x.com redirects to Twitter.com. Seems like they want us to say Twitter.
Were the board members in the office on that day?

I just find the whole thing weird. I just think it seems unlikely that a board would decide something then about-face so rapidly as to have a meeting at the office the next day. It would be conventional for further meetings to take place at the offices of lawyers, for example.

It would also be normal for the non-fired members of staff to be instructed to have no further contact with the fired person without legal counsel present.

Sometimes it seems very much like everyone here is really playing to the cameras in a big way.
Yeah, that is a fair reality check for us terminal junkies.
Sounds like a compromise.

The previous board thought Sam was trying to get full control of the board, so they ousted him. But of course they weren't happy with OpenAI being destroyed either.

Now they agreed to a new board without Sam/Greg, hoping that that will avoid Sam ever getting full control of the board in the future.
Well since that's not what the paper claims at all...
I make errors like that all the time when I write a sentence out, realize it reads awkwardly and then edit it incompletely, eg start with:

"In a way that has never before been detected"

(Sound it out in my head, sounds awkward... Decide it would read better as "in a way that has never been detected before" but edit it non-linearly to reduce the amount of cursor movement)

First change:

"In a way that has never before been detected [add: before]"

Second change:

"In a way that has never before [remove: been] detected before"

Oops, I meant to highlight the first 'before' and hit delete but I mistakenly highlighted 'been', probably because my lazy brain was satisfied with seeing 'be' while searching for before.

Hopefully I catch that on the 2nd edit, but if I'm in a rush maybe I don't.
Does this mean they'll get back to work improving their Moneyclip Maximizer?
Summers would tell you that women don’t have the necessary “intrinsic aptitude”. Of course the intrinsic aptitude in question is being able to participate in a nepotistic boy’s club.
Well, Siri is not doing it because its „intelligence“ basically sounds to a bunch of if-then-else statements.
It’s still the most embarrassing Apple thing in existence. So very bad.
Ask HN: Should people stop using ChatGPT?
Morally and for their own benefit, is it best for people to stop using ChatGPT? It seems like the value is not particularly in ChatGPT itself, but the users feeding it data. Should we be using an AI that is controlled by OpenAI?
Huh? Satyas move was politically brilliant. Either outcome of Sama returning to OpenAI or Sama going to Microsoft is good for Microsoft as continuity and progress are the most important things right now for Microsoft. An OpenAI in turmoil would have been worthless.

Satyas maneuvering gave Sama huge leverage.
Their point is that whether or not the platform is "dying" would depend on whether or not Twitter is still the best way to "get news".

But the most common metrics for whether or not a social media platform is dying, are things like ad revenue and MAU.

I contribute to neither, since I'm not a user nor an ad viewer, and yet I'm still able to "get the news".

So my point is this: the fact that important news are still there, won't guarantee that the platform stays successfull
Toyota is over invested in technology which has been overtaken by newer, better variants. They bet early, didn't see the promised gains, and their leadership have reduced faith in the likelihood that battery tech will be able to turn a profit.

I suspect they will be caught with their pants down and will need to resort to using someone else's supply chain to fulfill demand in the future. This will push the cost of their own supply chain up, and they will become increasingly less competitive and lose market share because of it.
If all members of the old board resign simultaneously, what happens then? No more old board to agree to any new members. In a for-profit the shareholders can elect new board members, but in this case I don't know how it's supposed to work.
Then it gets flagged and removed. The end.
Profit = revenue - costs
I think it was mostly a bluff to try the pressure the board. I don't think Sam and most of Open AI rank and file would want to be employees of MSFT
ESM is a defined default you find back in ECMA specifications.
That is why everybody should migratie.
Node.je is also moving ESM to the default.
If some systems dont do it, dont use it anymore.
That it went i dont use jest anymore, and Node.js has also now a good test runner.
(Useful for packages and backend systems, i think for frontend systems with eg React there are better test suits to help with special frontend stuff like the DOM)
> Non-profit corporations exist to further their mission, and are accountable to the IRS in this regard.

The IRS’s actual power in this regard is extremely limited. There’s so much wiggle room to define the “mission” that, at best, the only thing they can do is make sure you’re not secretly using your nonprofit as a tax shelter for a regular for-profit business, and even then some companies find ways around it (see IKEA).

Ordinary fraud (as opposed to tax fraud, though maybe that too) is even easier to pull off with a nonprofit than with an for-profit. Any nonprofit has a fundraising mechanism (which is usually an obnoxious set of dark patterns and outright spam reached through decades of optimization; the techniques are well understood), some overhead for managing the organization and money itself, and then the actual work involved with the mission. It’s quite simple for the overhead and fundraising parts of the organization to become most of the organization. But it gets worse: when your “mission” is vague enough, you can also turn that side of the business into a bunch of sinecures for your friends. There are well known “awareness” nonprofits that do literally nothing to actually solve the problems they’re nominally about because their job is to “spread awareness” (i.e. the top of the funnel for the fundraising part of the organization).

This is ironically also the origin story of “effective altruism”. The IRS doesn’t stop you from running a non-profit scam, so you have to do your own research to find out which non-profits are legit, and that’s what the effective altruists started off with, along with some cost-benefit modeling once you get past the outright scams.

The problem with OpenAI seems to be related to a vague mission as well. From the “an organization is what it does” perspective, OpenAI develops AI. If you have a formal mission that emphasizes safety over capability, you could certainly argue that OpenAI was closer to achieving that mission by sabotaging its own work, but if your interpretation of “safety” is to sabotage the development of AI, there are certainly better ways to do it than to develop AI and then sabotage yourself.
OpenAI is an airgapped test lab for Microsoft. They dont want critical exposure to the downside risk of AI research, just the benefits in terms of IP. Sam and Greg probably offer enough stability for them to continue this way.
I don’t use Twitter any more, other than occasionally following links there (which open in the browser, because I deleted the app).

Discoverability on Mastodon is abysmal. It was too much work for me.

I tend to get my news from Substack now.
Everything is now superaligned for mass commercialization of OpenAI.
If there’s been one constant here, it’s been people who actually know Tonrer expressing deep support for her experience, intelligence, and ethics, so it’s interesting to me that she seems to be getting the boot.
maybe it's just going to be easier to fire him in a second step once this current situation which seems to be primarily about ideology is cleared up. In D’Angelo's case it's going to be easier to just point to a clear traditional conflict of interest down the line
Far from it!

You’re getting your lesson reversed.

If no one is strong, there is no one to help the weak.

If one gives all their strength, then they are too weak to help anyone including themselves.

If Ukraine gave in to Russia, for example, then there would be no Ukraine, and a stronger and hungrier Russia.

Weakness breeds predators.

Strength gives options and an ability to actually help others from a place that isn’t predatory. A place that can be win-win.

Never actually helping anyone of course makes new enemies, and isn’t helping anyone either.

It’s a balance.
The paper itself claims that OpenAI's actions have undone their stated goals:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38374972

It has an excess amount of weasel words, so you might need to employ ChatGPT to read between the lines.
I've seen a couple of these tts + voice recognition + LLM projects popping up on GitHub as well:

https://github.com/modal-labs/quillman

I also built something similar using WebKit speech recognition (limited to Chromium) a year back for my own use but it was hooked to davinci-003.
Exactly right, fellow YCombinator News commenter!
I think at this point MSFT will seek a board seat in OpenAI/
That means we will never know what happened in the last week and why the board fired Sam.
> There is the temptation to switch to battery plants now rather than later.

But this is the problem, right? They don't serve the same purpose.

The battery plant allows you to store surplus solar generation during the day and use it at night. That's useful, but it's not the same thing -- because if it's cloudy for an extended period of time, you don't have surplus solar generation during the day, and your batteries are empty. What then?
Huh? The article is able to summarize in one sentence what he thinks epigenetics is not, but is not able to summarize what it actually is. The post is clearly designed to make the reader feel like they are smarter than some other tribe, who don't believe that observations have molecular underpinnings. The Post-it notes analogy is also highly inaccurate and adds nothing.

Epigenetics is one way that cells have of turning on and off the genes that are expressed. The same way that you can 'comment' a piece of code out using some special flags.

What is special about it is that it turns out that your mom's experience during pregnancy (and your experience during development) can affect which genes are turned on and off in your cells.

The classic example of this is that children of starving mothers such as during the holocaust, or during other famines, often went on to be overweight, because they were conditioned to be in 'starvation mode' so the genes for uptake of nutrients were more turned on, or the genes for decreasing wastefulness were turned off.

It doesn't take much imagination to see how some of these things could reinforce each other, or alternate, over multiple generations.
I may have been overly eager in my comment because the big bad downside of the new board is none of the founders are on it. I hope the current membership sees reason and fixes this issue.

But I said this because: They've retained the entire company, reinstated its founder as CEO, and replaced an activist clown board with a professional, experienced, and possibly* unified one. Still remains to be seen how the board membership and overall org structure changes, but I have much more trust in the current 3 members steering OpenAI toward long-term success.
Well... What's the cost?
"A source with direct knowledge of the negotiations says that the sole job of this initial board is to vet and appoint a new formal board of up to 9 people that will reset the governance of OpenAl.
Microsoft will likely have a seat on that expanded board, as will Altman himself."

https://twitter.com/teddyschleifer/status/172721237871736880...
Doesn't seem that way to me. Seems like it was Satya sorta calling the board's bluff.
First of all nothing on Reddit is real (within margin of error). Secondly it's weird that you'd assume we know what you're talking about.
Also to lessen the MSFT share impact.
Summary of OpenAI
Board decided to fire sama citing transparency

What did I miss?
The unclean part is referring to the presence of Google Analytics in the other extension

https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/c6...
I believe this can be merged with the other thread being discussed heavily at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38375239

(Sorry, dang)

Edit: Do Twitter spawn separate URL threads when a Tweet is edited?
Hydrogen infrastructure is a nightmare and requires you to store massive amounts of explosive gas under pressure. The energy density per gallon/liter sucks compared to gasoline. It was a bad bet and will never see mass adoption.

Hybrids, however, do make sense right now. Lithium ion batteries don't have the range (especially under load) and don't recharge as fast as filling up a tank. If you use fast chargers, the battery life also diminishes, and the replacement costs are ridiculous. Those aren't features which allow for mainstream adoption. Too much consumer behavior change is required.
I've seen quite a few in Ljubljana. I drive by one in particular almost every day, and it really fits the environment and the style of the building:

https://space-invaders.com/media/invaders/ljubljana/LJU_28-d...

I really appreciate that they're locally themed. Many of them feature Ljubljana's iconic dragons.

I always figured it was some local artist placing them, never figured it was an international thing.
I guess that theory was right, that Satya's announcement was just a delaying tactic to calm the market before Monday morning.
What a shame.

I came in contact with version control systems in the following order CVS (also a bit of a weird episode using RCS), Subversion, git, then mercurial

I have loved git and still do. But nowadays I use mercurial for my pet projects.

There is no denying that git "won", mercurial would have been a worthy alternative.
> now just a vehicle to commercialize their LLM

I mean it is what they want isn't it. They did some random stuff like, playing dota2 or robot arms, even the Dalle stuff. Now they finally find that one golden goose, of course they are going to keep it.

I don't think the company has changed at all. It succeeded after all.
Still think this was CIA operation to get OpenAI in hands of US government and big tech.

Former Secretary, SalesForce CEO who was board chair of Twitter when infiltrated with FBI [1] and the fall-guy for the coup is the new board? Not one person from the actual company - not even Greg who did nothing wrong??? [1] - https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247/status/16340211499976867...

The two think-tank women who made all this happen conveniently leave so we never talk about them again.

Whatever, as long as I can use their API.
I'm probably reading too much into it, but interesting that he specifically called out maximizing safety.
Im not so sure. This whole ordeal revealed how strong of a position Microsoft had all along. And that’s all still true even without effectively taking over OpenAI. Because now everyone can see how easily it could happen.

Something does still seem not flattering towards Microsoft about reneging on the Microsoft offer though.
"Hiring" them was just a PR tactic to keep Microsoft stock from tanking while they got this figured out.
Well, I don't need PLP.

I just need to know when the data is written and when it isn't.
> Altman tries to push out another board member

That event wasn't some unprovoked start of this history.

> That board member escalates by pushing Altman out (and Brockman off the board)

and the entire company retaliated. Then this board member tried to sell the company to a competitor who refused. In the meantime the board went through two interim CEOs who refused to play along with this scheme. In the meantime one of the people who voted to fire the CEO regretted it publicly within 24 hours. That's a clown car of a board. It reflects the quality of most non-profit boards but not of organizations that actually execute well.
Flexbox is obsolete and as with JavaScript you are supposed to wrestle with a subset of css aka the good parts.

Sensible user interfaces are a solved problem and it is totally fine that the tutorial industry shows all the other possibilities you have when you don’t need to display content while the framework industry points to general one size fits all solutions from which you can pick the one that fits your specific general use-case and favorite way of displaying the filler text around the advertising content.
interesting, substack doesn't sound like a platform for the freshest news, but for deep insights.

Don't you feel out of date on substack? especially since things move so fast sometimes, like with this open-ai fiasco?
I haven't seen this many nerds in a froth since Apple walked back the butterfly keyboards in the MacBook.
I still feel Microsoft will have a bigger influence on OpenAI after this drama is over.
It’s about money and power. Not AI safety or people disliking each other.
"When you come at the king, you best not miss." -- Omar Little

The board missed.
Can CEOs make market moving "bluffs"? Sounds like another word for securities fraud.

(what isn't)
A dynamic back office is the new business superpower
No it doesn't. Good stories with bad titles almost always stay up.
"Hey everybody! Look over here!"
Those are both terrible people, not in fact brilliant general-purpose bad idea rejectors. A random person would be better qualified to shoot down bad ideas - most people haven't had bad ideas that led to suffering and death for millions of people.

No one thinks Larry Summers has any insights on AI. Adding Larry Summers is something you do purely to beg powerful, unaccountable people "please don't stop us, we're on your side".
It's likely because of delayed allocations (delalloc): https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/172227346#comment6

because the only guarantee which data=ordered provides is the security guarantee that stale data won't be revealed.

Yes, it's bad and breaks prefix append consistency, and does not match the documentation...
Consider that Satya already landed a huge win by the stock price hitting ATH rather than taking a hit based on the news. Further consider that MS owns 49% of a company which could be valued at 80 billion on the condition that the company makes structural changes to the board to prevent this from happening again (as opposed to taking a dive if the company essentially died.) Then there's the uncertainty of the tech behind Bing's chat (and other AI tie-ins) continuing to be competitive vs Google and other players. If MS had to recreate their own tech, then they would likely be far behind even a stalled OpenAI. Seems to me that it makes little difference where this tech is being developed (in-house vs in a company which you own 49% of) in terms of access. Probably better that the development happens within the company which started all of this and has already been the leader, rather than starting over.
Good outcome. I think everything will go back to business as usual with slightly accelerated productisation. 99% of people will not have noticed anything and if so quickly forget.
openAI's tried merge with competitor
Emmett https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1727210329560756598
and yet microsoft has no seat on the board.
I wonder what he gets out of this. Ceo for a few days? Do they pay him for 3 days of work? Presumably you'd want some minimum signing bonus in your contract as a Ceo?
I think this is exactly what you're looking for: https://youtu.be/fmF7HpU_-9k?si=YkEBUIJNshdujAW5
Firstly, maybe don't put quotes around an unrelated party's representation of the board. Secondly, the board was made up of individuals and naturally, what might be true for the board as a whole does not apply to every individual on it.
You should put a demo on the landing page
Most likely the difference in training datasets. There is a reason why authors have sued OpenAI but not Google.
No one really knows who was responsible for what. But Sam agreed to this deal over the Microsoft alternative, so probably Adam isn't that bad.
I had not heard that man’s name in several years—and was happier for it. Larry Summers making decisions for OpenAI doesn’t bode well at all.
What could possibly go wrong with that process? :)
Looks like they kicked Helen Toner out.
I think the difference is this: if a tech exec thinks something is good for the humanity and releases it as a product, I can choose not to use it. On the other hand, if Toner kills OpenAI because she thinks AI is dangerous, I won't be able to use OpenAI's product any more. And of course, I don't think someone who does not work on tech or STEM in general can have any insights on machine learning.
Bulk as in..
Sequentially generated urls?

Foo.com/path/doc001.htm
02 003 etc?
The vagus nerve is the weirdest thing. Had to dig into it a bit to figure out my acid reflux.

Basically if I eat stuff that doesn't digest well, my stomach bloats and causes a mild hiatal hernia, which in turn presses on the vagus nerve that travels right next to it.

This causes the _exact_ same symptoms as a panic attack. Cold hands and feet, the feeling of an increased heart rate etc. Not super fun when you have a history of actual panic attacks.

Then I take some medicine to forcibly relax the esophageal sphincter on top of the stomach and within 10-15 minutes I can literally feel the warmth getting back to my limbs just because of the decreased vagus nerve pressure...
Death Predictions as a Marketing Hack
We're working on something similar at https://curiosity.ai - no plugins yet but something we have in our roadmap for next year.
Yeah there's a word for that type of thing
Omegle: 'How I got the dangerous chat site closed down'
It would be a bigger failure of the education system for the youth blessed with stable families and no extracurricular commitments to achieve only at the level of those who need to support their families on the side/etc.

You can see this happening live in Oregon as they’ve removed all graduation/testing requirements.