skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I don't think it matters anymore. He's between a rock and a hard place: if the others followed him without knowing the real reason he's got two more enemies on the board who are likely talking to their own lawyers by now. If he spills it he's screwed immediately, if he doesn't he's screwed in the longer term. So for his sake I hope there are some nice time-stamped minutes that detail exactly what caused them to act like they did and it had better be good.
You're basically asking "why would a company lay off employees in one business unit and not another?"

To which the answer is completely obvious: it depends on how they view the ROI potential of that business unit.
> There was real risk they lose all their ~$11B investment

Semaphor said that only a fraction of it was actually spent so far: https://www.semafor.com/article/11/18/2023/openai-has-receiv...

And even still, 11B dollars is bad but certainly not world-ending for Microsoft.
I recently bought a Pixel phone after having Samsung for a few years. Immediately the one thing that annoyed me was the lack for both limiting charge as well as enforcing slow charging. Both not only are useful for long term battery life but also, since I'm an occasional thruhiker (right now on my way to Mexico along The Continental Divide Trail), they make better use of my power bank.
Without rooting the device these two features are not available (well, I can achieve slow charging by using a cable that only supports certain voltage and current)
Can you give some concrete examples of inorganic, overwhelming influence?

And then perhaps contrast it with some concrete organic, overwhelming influence examples. But that's a bonus.
I kinda wish my EV would just set the apparent 0% and 100% points at a level that guaranteed X cycles, where X corresponds to perhaps 200K miles. As capacity and fast charging infrastructure improves, it'll be less important for me to access the top 20% of the battery just to make a road trip feasible.

Hell, I'm okay with it just being a lie that I can control. Let me choose those points.
It's pretty standard to get DAO insurance which covers errors, omissions, and negligence, as a board member.

At any rate, we don't know that the board doesn't have those minutes. I see no reason to assume they've failed duty of care.

And being a non-profit does, in fact, give the board sole right to so much as dissolve the entire company and donate the proceeds to Anthropic if they decide in five minute zoom call, of their own discretion, that doing so aligns best with mission statement in its charter.
That's a price ceiling. I think that would lead to a housing deficit: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/price-ceiling.asp
I don't see how you can look at global warming, ocean acidification, falling biodiversity and other global trends and how little action is being done to slow these ill effects and not arrive at that sentiment. Yes, the world has scientists saying "hey, this is happening, maybe we should do something" but the lack of money into solutions shows the interest just isn't there. Being the smartest species on the planet isn't that impressive. It's possible we are just smart enough to cause our own destruction, and no smarter.
Sam Altman's Manifest Destiny (2016)
I'm sure local GUI clients will be available soon for the average user to boot up local LLM servers
You're thinking Lisa vs. Mac. Apple ][ didn't come into the picture until later when some of the engineers started playing around with making a mouse card for the ][.
Trying to close the can of worms.
This is an interesting nuanced take that digs into the heart of the matter beyond the headlines.

I do wonder what the stock market reaction will be if @sama goes back to OpenAI.

Does Microsoft still win (any moreso than it was winning previously)?
And you wouldn't be in Satya's good books either.

They are trying to clean up this mess and now is not the time to be opportunistic.
great post. could you apply this same framework to optimize training as well?
as for multiple teams with overlapping goals -- are you kidding me? That's a 100% legit and popular tactic. Once CEO I worked with relished this approach and called it a "Steel-cage death match"!
I like your vibe.

Regarding your last suggestion, what you actually want is a skyhook to catch the payload, with Phobos at the center. You can even use Phobos regolith to manufacture the basalt fiber required to build the cable.
Man, that was 25 years ago. Time to move on.
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Microsoft should not be allowed anywhere near ai. They need to be split.
> A statement from the CEO/the board is a standard descalation.

Haven't we gotten statements from them? The complaint seems to be that we want statements from them every day (or more) now.
lol no sht man, pay up and they’d still sell it behind their backs. Someone always have a copy
This could be a genuine stance for them if they are really in the AI danger camp. Not supporting the stance; but i think it's not a self contradictory position
I didn't realize Media Matters was a Twitter employee.
They may well have skin in the game, but not this game. That's exactly why you don't want a board member with a potential conflict of interest.
Getting Started with an Antinet Zettelkasten
Good point! I was playing around with a "fun" title and really just wanted to map out all the Jacaranda trees in my area.

I've now updated the notebook and made sure the tree count is clearly mentioned.
> The slippery slope argument is a pet peeve of mine.

Do you mean that an argument which consists of a claim of an inevitable slide to a bad conclusion from a certain starting point is your pet peeve? Or that a rebuttal to such an argument, which consists of pointing out that the former may be a slippery slope fallacy, is your pet peeve? It gets confusing because the key phrase of the former is "we're on a slippery slope", while the key phrase of the latter is "that's a slippery slope fallacy."
Here is a simple explanation: how many people there are from India or China immigrating to the US on H1B vs from those other countries you listed?

I would be more surprised if it was anything but “India and China” in your observations, just due to raw volumes.
My favorite hypothesis: Ilya et al suspected emergent AGI (e.g. saw the software doing things unprompted or dangerous and unexpected) and realized the Worldcoin shill is probably not the one you want calling the shots on it.

For the record, I don't think it's true. I think it was a power play, and a failed coup at that. But it's about as substantiated as the "serious" hypotheses being mooted in the media. And it's more fun.
All of which should have been covered in the paperwork.
Formerly Known As (FKA)
What companies are offering that at that price?
What's "De-Kubernetization"?
> I have no idea why I’m worked up

I've been at several startups and several public companies. You rarely hear anything from the board. If that happens, someone really screwed up. Putting myself in the shoes of someone working at OpenAI, I'd be pretty worked-up over this. I guess I'm saying it's out of empathy because this could have been the startup any of us were at.
uuencode has some additional overhead, namely 2 additional bytes per line, that means it varies from 60-70%, the latter being best case, while base64 is 75% efficient in all cases.
Your example confounds many variables.
K like I'm sort of techy not super and you've already lost me. We need to Signal this shit.

1)Visit site.
2)Download app installer
3)Install.
4)Open/run.

No servers, SSH, intranet, local/remote, assorted technical jargon etc. We gotta make it REAL easy lol :)

Love ya
Employment in California is ‘at will’, which means they can fire him without a reason.

Wrongful termination only applies when someone is fired for illegal reasons, like racial discrimination, or retaliation, for example.

I mean I’m sure they can all sue each other for all kinds of reasons, but firing someone without a good reason isn’t really one of them.
Yeah, and comparison with Word make absolutely no sense. In word you don't need to go through the entire document to change some style, you just use predefined formatting styles like "Heading 1", "Quote", etc. and if you change something in those predefined styles it will be automatically applied to the entire document. You can also work with others on same document at the same time.
It's lucky that AI is not super intelligent then.
Our "public spheres" are in fact not public, but rather are private property. Advertisers having control over them is a consequence of this.

If you actually go into town IRL and talk in the public square, no advertiser will be able to silence you because the public square is actually public. Or if you use an actually public means of communication like the postal service, again you won't be cut out because some corporate advertisers consider your speech bad for business. This phenomenon of corporate advertisers being gatekeepers of the "public sphere" only exists in actually-not-public spaces.
I've been using ACCA[0] for years to limit charge on my phone, usually to 60%, but higher when needed. I also limit the charging speed most of the time.

It performs like new despite the phone being over three years old. I'm determined to keep it usable as long as I can because I prefer its size and analog headphone jack over what's available now. Actually replacing the battery, however looks like a big hassle, so I'm determined to put that off for years.

[0] https://f-droid.org/packages/mattecarra.accapp/
>> and in doing so they're fucking everybody else over.

Exactly, from the article:

>> in North Vancouver, one Airbnb host complained to North Shore News that “people don’t want to deal with [long-term] tenants” who are less profitable and harder to evict. But it’s also evident in the way that homeowners frequently oppose new developments that encroach on their neighbourhoods, fighting—often successfully—against change and exacerbating unaffordability and insufficient housing supply in the process.
Journey to Epcot Center: A Symphonic History [video]
Why it's OK that so many top Pokémon players 'cheat'
Also should qualify cheap. A lot of people likely picture a much lower price point than where one might find stainless, concrete, etc
Fork just means two groups start with the same code and work independently.

It was a thing.
We had a massive beautiful one overhanging our pool in Australia, and not only did the flowers clog the filter, they wreaked havoc on the chemicals.

Every year Dad threatened to cut it down, and every year Mum threatened to divorce him if he did. They stayed married.

The tree stands to this day, happily filling the pool with a blanket of flowers
Sell to who?
> seems like we should collectively decide on a reasonable pathway to germ line edits for single gene disorders

Genuine question: why? Isn't the argument against germ-line editing one for diversity? If so, it seems fine to have some populations who ban it while others experiment with it.
I don't think this has anything to do with safety. The board members voting Altman out all got their seats when Open AI was essentially a charity and those seats were bought with donations. This is basically the donors giving a big middle finger to everyone else trying to get rich off of their donations while they get nothing.
What happens to all the ChatGPT subscribers now? Sign ups are off the table for the foreseeable future I assume.
I find Alexandr Wang absolutely insufferable on Twitter. I am glad he declined it
No one controls Bitcoin, because it's a protocol. Bitcoin Core is the reference implementation, but there are others, and anyone can create new implementations if they wish. Also, the Bitcoin Core maintainers can't just change something on a whim, because users would then switch to another fork. Maintainers (or miners or other groups) can't force their changes on users, because everyone can decide on their own which version of the software they want to use.

The protocol development happens through BIPs (Bitcoin improvement proposals): https://github.com/bitcoin/bips

BIPs are discussed for years, before (and if) they are implemented, and basically everyone needs to agree on them, because no one wants to fork the blockchain, which could be devastating.
It is entirely reasonable for there to be dire financial straits that require layoffs, yet when a $10 billion investment suddenly blows up and has to be saved the money can be spent to fix it.

In the first case it wasn't that there was no cash in the bank and no bank willing to make loans, but that the company needed to spend less than it earned in order to make a profit. In the second case it wasn't that the money had been hidden in a mattress, but that it was raised/freed-up at some risk which was necessary because of the $10 billion investment.
The truth shall set you free
An alternate theory is that Suskever was manipulated and sucked into the plot on sketchy pretenses, and realizes it now and trying to make right.
I mean, when 90% of your company follows you instead of the board.... You won some hearts and minds
So ... less than the amount of adverts served to 20 average users then?

On a platform supposed serving "millions" ..

That's, uhhh, at least 50,000 instances of IBM adverts next to Nazi hatespeech per million users per hour?

That's probably waaay to much for the company founded by Herman Hollerith and his whacky punch cards so loved by the Reich.
This doesn't work in the US with apps such as Doordash or UberEats. Drivers will see you aren’t tipping via the anpp and deprioritize your order.
His laywer likely told him to lay very low. In his basement or something.
As mentioned by another person in this thread [0], it is likely that it was Ilya's work that was getting replicated by another "secret" team, and the "different opinions on the same person" was Sam's opinions of Ilya. Perhaps Sam saw him as an unstable element and a single point of failure in the company, and wanted to make sure that OpenAI would be able to continue without Ilya?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=38357843
By default my Pixel will slow charge when I set it down at the end of the day and be at 100% when my alarm goes off in the morning.
Interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13CZPWmke6A&t=5206s
Exactly my point why would d Angelo want openai to thrive when his own company poe(chatbot) wants compete in the same space. Its conflict of interest which ever way you look. He should resign from board of openai in the first place.

The main point is greg, Ilya can get 50% vote and convince Helen toner to change decision. It's all done then it's 3 to 2 in board of 5 people. Unless greg board membership is reinstated.

Now it's increasingly look like Sam will be heading back into the role of CEO of openai.
I judge things holistically. Ignore the community and you ignore the future of that tech. Ignore the tech and you miss some features.

If others want to delude themselves by ignoring half the picture, more power to them.
I was just copying what simonw said! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38341857
> No serious company wants drama

"All PR is good PR" is a meme for a reason. Many cultures thrive on dysfunction, particularly the kind that calls attention to themselves.
Ghent, Belgium
New Kindles (those built in the last 3 or 4 years) don't have cellular connectivity as an option anymore. And owners can turn off the wifi at any time (commonly used to prevent libraries from ending the loans on their books).
They need a lot of energy to extract the fase conversion heat from the vapor and transform it into liquid water. Just see any of the videos from https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thunderf00t+wat... (Each one is a different device, but the physis problem is the same, so watching 2 or 3 is enough.)
I am reading it correctly that FreeBSD doesn't have 802.11n wifi support?
What's the Putnam if I may ask? It sounds like an academic competition? Google didn't really enlighten me.

I know what it's like though, I won a big prize in school. Not saying it compares to yours but I stood out too. Didn't really help me become more popular though or boost my self confidence. But it was nice to give a middle finger to all the bullies for once.
The OpenAI nonprofit it not on the edge of the abyss and the board has brought it no closer to being there. If the board thinks the mission of "bringing about AGI which benefits all of humanity unrestricted by concerns of generating revenue" is not best served by productizing LLMs into revenue generating products then a mass resignation of its wholly controlled for profit subsidiary saves them the trouble and cost of a mass layoff.
Sky rocketing housing prices, declining primary industries, biggest major resource exports destroy the earth and nobody sane wants/needs them, provincial gov'ts de-fund and undermine public health care, partisan nastiness inspired by imported US culture wars crap, contradictions in interests between geographical regions, monopolistic parasitic local bourgeoisie, should I go on?
It doesn't surprise me 75% of SWEs report retaliation based on my experience in tech, but credit to 100% of people with integrity that spoke truth to power and risked paying the price. The world would be a lot better place (in my humble opinion) if more people spoke up when things were wrong, and were less afraid of losing a job at a company crossing an ethical line they hold. I know that's a luxury opinion, but if you did the right thing and lost something important, that's a company throwing away the best of humanity and a clearly toxic culture.
Imagine how he feels.
I also had a very convincing phishing email "from" Bittrex recently that said I had assets to withdraw. The email has my full name and everything.
"But as a hedge against not having explicit control of OpenAI, Microsoft negotiated contracts that gave it rights to OpenAI’s intellectual property, copies of the source code for its key systems as well as the “weights” that guide the system’s results after it has been trained on data, according to three people familiar with the deal, who were not allowed to publicly discuss it."

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/technology/openai-microso...
I don’t understand people calling this a coup. The board is setup with very few legal constraints and answers only to itself. If this was a coup (seizing power from the rightful holder), who was it against?
> Now, you will need to create a company and supplier base the size of Boeing to make any use of this

China: hold my baijiu
Tbh I don't expect a huge increase in surveillance ability. A computer is pretty useless these days when it's disconnected from the internet even without a 5G modem.
Forking and merging is a social phenomenom. Sure git makes it easier, but nothing stopping anyone from just copying and pasting as appropriate. Not to mention diff(1) was invented in 1974, and diff3(1) in 1979, so there were already tools to help with this, even if not as well developed as modern tools.

I'm also pretty sure cross-platform code was a thing in 1983. Maybe not to the same extent and ease as now, but still a thing.
I wish they would label it so that it shows 100% charge when it's actually charged 80%, and then give an option to 'overcharge' a configurable amount till 125% (the current 100%). That way it will make people aware that they are reducing the battery life by overcharging, and be picky when they overcharge.

But this won't happen because reduced battery life is a big direct and indirect(by reducing performance like Apple does with old iPhones) driver of phone upgrades.
> No serious company wants drama

Unless you're TNT, cause they "know drama"
That's either randomness (every random sequence has long strings of all-heads or all-tails) or cognitive bias (it always feels like the other side is getting treated better) or some combo of the two.

I don't mean to be glib or dismissive I'm just writing this rather hastily! and this is a pretty well-established finding, at least in my own head, having gone over I don't know how many thousands of these cases...

Edit: but if you want to link to specific cases where you feel like there was an asymmetry, I'd be happy to take a look.
Honestly MS don't have to, losing more than half the employees will destroy the value of the PPUs.

The fact so many have signed the petition is a classic example of game theory. If everyone stays, the PPU keep most of their value, the more people threaten to leave, the more attractive it is to sign. They don't have to love Sam or support him

Edit: actually thinking about it, the best outcome would to be go back on the threats to resign, increasing the value of PPUs, making Microsoft have to pay more to make them leave OpenAI
> The SEC’s complaint also alleges that Kraken’s business practices, deficient internal controls, and poor recordkeeping practices present a range of risks for its customers. As alleged in the complaint, Kraken commingles its customers’ money with its own, including paying operational expenses directly from accounts that hold customer cash. Kraken also allegedly commingles its customers’ crypto assets with its own, creating what its own auditor had identified as “a significant risk of loss” to its customers.

Sounds clear enough to me...
That plus the "digital" sweatshops
> Seems most likely Sustkever wanted him fired and then realized his mistake

We have as much evidence for this hypothesis as for any other. Not discrediting it. But let's be mindful of the fog of war.
This is the most likely scenario. Adam wants to destroy OpenAI so that his poop AI has a chance to survive
Didn't FTX also have "notable investors", which despite this, were so careless with their money that they didn't even think sending an accountant to check on the (nonexistent) FTX books ?
Control but not view since everything tends to be encrypted and they can easily do cert pinning.
Agreed. This discussion around safety reminds me of the early days of cybersecurity, when security by obscurity was the norm.

It's counter-intuitive, but locking up a technology is like trying to control prices and wages. It just doesn't work -- unless you confiscate every GPU in the world and bomb datacenters etc.

The best way to align with the coming AGI's and ASI's is to build them in the sunlight. Every lock-em-up approach is doomed to fail (I guess that makes me a meta-doomer?)
"Human-subject testing is needed to test this hypothesis."

Ahh, and this is why you are submitting a grant proposal for $100k in red wine?
>It is entirely reasonable for there to be dire financial straits that require layoffs

It's not entirely reasonable because Microsoft's finances are public. We know they're doing fine.
How is this not capable of being referred to SLAPP?
From someone who apparently knew him personally^1:

> I just want to tell everyone that Gilles Castel, the incredible person that popularized this form of math note taking, has passed away. It's awesome to see that people still use his blog and keep his legacy alive. We lost him at a very young age. Thank you for this video.

On why:

> depression got the better of him.

:(

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOtM1mrWjUo&lc=UgyBCHtOu_8bl...
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38357176
That axiom is a relic from the pre-social media days. Nowadays, bad PR going viral can sink a company overnight.
> There is no law requiring AT&T to store decades’ worth of Americans’ call records for law enforcement purposes.

No, but I wouldn't be surprised if AT&T was being paid a ton of money to keep and hand over these records.
They know. They're saying to read the original tweet more closely. It was very carefully phrased. Technically, it doesn't say what everyone assumes it said. He never says "Sam has accepted an offer of employment." He just says he's "excited to have [Sam] join" and he's "looking forward to" working with him. All technically unfalsafiable statements about his feelings and state of mind. They're even addressed -to Sam-. They're the kind of thing you could imagine someone saying to you at the end of a job interview that ended with an offer which you technically haven't accepted yet.