skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The behavior of various actors in this saga indeed seems to indicate 'Altman and OpenAI employees back at OpenAI' as the preferred option by those actors over 'Altman and OpenAI employees join Microsoft in masse'.
Yeah, I am being generous.
> [...] but reality is there are a lot of smart devs who are "big thinker" types and struggle with incremental development and lots small PRs towards a bigger goal.

It doesn't really matter. You can start with a big change initially as a 'big thinker'. You just have to break it down afterwards.

I often have a bit of feature creep when working on a change, and add all kinds of incidental fixes I find along the way.

But afterwards, I use git's tooling to 'peel off' all those extra changes and stick them into their own PRs. That makes my main PR slim again. If the main thrust is still to big after that diet, I think about breaking it down into incremental changes that make sense for reviewers.

That process of breaking down is all about telling an understandable story to reviewers (both reviewers right now, and the poor folks who have to look at my commits in a few months to figure out when and where we introduced a bug, or why certain decisions were made. Those poor folks often include my future self.)

> I prefer incremental and used to roll my eyes at them, but it's just a different way of thinking and people/teams are diverse.

Some people produce incremental PRs naturally, and that's great for them. But for the 'big thinkers' it's a learnable skill to break their PRs into manageable chunks after the fact. No need to change their natural style.
Not that I think there are many examples of technical people making great board members, we've entered an era where if I don't get my way on the inside I'll just tweet about it and damn any wider consequences.

Management and stockholders beware.
The administration people are a key part of the welfare program. The bloat is the jobs is the welfare. The welfare is the jobs is the bloat.

Same goes for healthcare, the TSA (gvmt in general), much of realty… the list goes on. Basically anywhere you look around and wonder what the hell so many workers are standing around for.

Employment is the number one mechanism of promoting welfare. (and the only one with lasting impact)
Exactly this. To be perfectly honest, the git CLI is so bad that I would take pretty much anything over git. I would prefer SVN over git, despite that product being older and with less functionality, just because it's at least easy to use.

I learned and use git because that's just how the industry has moved, and I'm pragmatic enough to just roll with it. But good Lord, the UI is a case study in "programmers shouldn't be allowed to design UIs".
Mercurial also missed the window on performance and safety. If you started using it around 2009 or so, Hg was notably slower for daily use and a lot of people recommended using extensions to match Git features but those extensions were not stable (Hg and RCS are the only VCSes I’ve seen require data to be recovered from a backup due to normal usage).

There’s a meme that Git is hard to use but I think it’s conflating the challenges of getting used to version control at all, distributed version control, and any specific tool. I watched a number of developers do that and it was about as much work to go from SVN to either Git or Mercurial, and if they learned the other DVCS it was always easier since they were mapping concepts rather than learning them for the first time. The marginal returns on productivity weren’t worth switching in most cases so it tended to come down to Git being so much faster and, as network effects kicked in, easier to host.
Is this your opinion as an attorney who is licensed to practice in Texas and has tried cases in this district before or are you speaking as a layperson?

As a layperson I might agree with you, but in these sorts of cases the judges tend to play a pivotal role, as do both the economic power of the plaintiff and the existing reputation of the defendants.

Many any engineer has been run aground by privileging the predictive power of their own literal interpretation over the case law and disposition of the actual judges.
My once-a-decade opportunity to post this thing that I wrote:

https://peteshadbolt.co.uk/posts/ga/

Now back to life thanks to Ruffle.
And so you strike a deal with Microsoft. That tracks.
Not buying the David v Goliath tone of the article, they realized Apple and Google owned the market and wanted a piece of it.

At least they're honest about just ripping off OpenSteetMaps and "curating" it.

Hopefully it's not the "curating" that Google's done, like putting up waypoints for the nearest McDonald's.
I'm in Ireland. Well, the fact you're refusing EU countries suggests to me that data might not be handled in the best possible way, so I'm not too bothered that I can't use it.
> after so many years

This is why so many people dislike git. It's a base tool that should have an obvious workflow and very few pitfalls. Instead it allows one to do just about anything at anytime without giving much of a fuck about any resulting mess. All blade, no handle. It's a tool for Linus, by Linus. The average corporate coder is not Linus and doesn't have Linus problems. People don't want a Merkle tree manager, they want a workflow.
Here is the preprint and free version:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10441380/
That’s possible, but I don’t think it’s an accident that coordinate with the firing of Sam they reduced the board to being outside-controlled, with only one actor who can be said to be seasoned in corporate politics.

The other two board members have nothing in their history to suggest they have the stomach or experience exercising agency to be a significant part of this resistance. But they might be pretty inclined to make a useful ideological stand.

I’ll reiterate a point I and others have made: the person most hurt by recent OpenAI events is D’Angelo. All he has to do is make the valid point that OpenAI’s charter is to make AI available to all and twist it a bit to his extreme personal advantage. The difference is that most people seasoned in corporate warfare can see he is not acting out of altruism but to his personal advantage, and apparently the other board members cannot.

Inversely to the other board members not having a history of individual stands, D’Angelo does, and he also lacks indications in his work history that he is concerned with altruistic actions in general.
I understand the meaning of this statement but please reconsider the way you view your customer base - it's not a good grounding for the success of your business to think this way. Great work with what you've built so far!
Elsewhere in this thread you stated: "if OpenAI was 'the good guys' then any chance of the good guys getting a head start has just been blown out of the water"

So basically we have two cases here:

1. The charter is a deceptive fig leaf, OpenAI aren't the good guys. In which case blowing up OpenAI looks reasonable

2. The charter is not a fig leaf, Helen is doing the right thing by upholding it

I'd say upholding the charter is the right thing in intermediate situations as well. Basically, OpenAI are the good guys, in part, to the degree to which the board (and other stakeholders) actually uphold the charter instead of being purely profit-driven.
Given a choice between a paycheck and doing something questionable, and you have a looong history of what people will choose.

I’m not saying that’s the case here, but that can’t be used as a shield.
Isn't that worse though since your data would be spread across multiple potentially untrustworthy parties instead of just a single one? Given how many requests a browser makes and normal browsing habits like regularly visiting the same sites, it would eventually lead to each resolver having a full profile of what you browse.

That makes me think of the reason Tor has Entry Guards where the first hop is limited to just a few selected nodes instead of random:
https://support.torproject.org/about/entry-guards/
it's always been one of your best qualities
No pre-set plan, no parental supervision, just a “I’m going to go meet my friends on this summer day, I’ll be back before dinner.” For purposes of illustration, assume these kids are aged 9-14, or thereabouts. Too young to drive, too old to be doted over every minute of the day.

What are the odds they would all sit around together, outside, on their phones?
This is silly. I mean sure, I did try out Blazor - and ended up unimpressed despite otherwise quite liking C#/.Net - but ultimately it's Blazor making extraordinary claims.

And some of what I wrote is about the programming model itself - by now my experience is that domain models should generally stay on a whiteboard - it's quite rare that's actually what's more convenient in any specific place in the codebase. Trying to "streamline" that tends to end up just introducing even more complexity due to poor abstraction match.
Exactly — if police want most audits to stop they can simply act right. There is little reason for people to watch a video of police not reacting.
It seems to me the size of the PR is a function of the complexity (i.e., the lack of simplicity in the design / architecture). In that case, large is a symptom. What's ultimately slowing things down and adding risk is the complexity.
Totally agree with the article…tutorials and courses tend to make it seem like a lot of “the job” will be spinning up a user model, when in fact most of it is trying to figure out why some piece of code is failing when it looks like nothing has changed.
This is something you don’t get. What happens to the for-profit arm of OpenAI is not her problem, her loyalty lies with the non-profit arm’s charter (and not even the organization itself).

She is doing her job to uphold the mission of the organization.
I think the answer is:

if(time() > 10_years_in_future)
duck.enable();
Kludge = easter egg
If only there was an existing way to refer to sports generally! And OP was referring to a specific sport (baseball), not sports generally.
“Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program” – Milton Friedman

Though it seems he wasn't the first to use the phrase: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/50691/did-milto...
The detective from Knives Out would have solved this by now
Piped & Libretube here, Lighttube also has awesome UI
Advertisers know you don’t always watch, but they price in the odds that the ad will catch your eye and pay.

Ad blockers drive those odds to zero, so the advertisers won’t pay.

Personally, I like paying people who make things I enjoy, but if you feel you’re entitled to their work without paying for it, just be honest about it and be you.
While I haven't quite tried it yet. I think it is possible to also use astro with functions/lambda's to do a full blown app.

I personally really like their approach to templating and components as well as server vs client side JavaScript.
The carve out for services that claim to detect AI is interesting. If the FTC realizes that's snake oil, that's a good thing.
He had dual overlapping roles, a duty to the promote safe AI to the world, and a duty to prevent own-goal sabotage to the LLC. Ideally those roles wouldn’t conflict. He probably didn’t care if such a paper was written, but to have a board member as author is beyond awkward. But as an academic, her own dual overlapping role, she has a need to publish. (“Uh, please voice your concerns before we develop it instead of sand bagging us with a damning critique in an academic journal after the fact!”) This seems like a recipe for disaster. I’m not certain either really was “wrong” in that conflict. It just seems like this structure was doomed to failure, throwing uncompromising zealots together all with launch codes and a big red button.

Safety isn’t binary, it’s degrees of risk assessment, mitigation and acceptance. Infinite safety is never progressing. But never progressing means failing the charity mission. And AI isn’t just being created at OpenAI, for them to succeed at the charity mission they need to stay ahead of risky competitors with a safer AI.

The charity can’t afford its GPU costs without the LLC, and the LLC can’t lead the industry if it’s behind all the competitors. To be relevant the safety side needs compute, and they need to be ahead of the curve, and they also need real world data from the LLC. If the charity nukes the LLC, it takes itself with it and fails its mission. They’re so intertwined they need compromise in the board. And they let that board dwindle to small entrenched factions, which sounded more like the Hatfield’s and the mcCoys. With such a fragile structure they needed mature adults with functional conflict resolution.
They should have left this one in:

> The collision in a game is usually different from the visual polygons. This is because collision detection is relatively slow. A building with 10,000 visual polygons may have only 1,000 collision polygons. As a consequence, the map may have holes that you cannot see. This is what's going on when you fall through the map.

> This makes it very hard for the testers to test the collision on the map. During gta4, the testers found it particularly hard as characters could fall through the map depending on their animations and there was no way they could touch every bit on the map.

> This is why they asked for a rag doll gun. Alexander Roger created a special gun that instead of bullets would fire rag doll characters. The testers could go round the map and fire rag dolls at every building and hill side. --https://insiderockstarnorth.blogspot.com/2023/11/bugs-bugs-b...
*Large pull requests slow down code review up to a point where large enough pull requests promote less thorough and quicker review

Spared you 5 minutes
Balls?

A ballsy person can be defined as such when you give them extremely low odds scenario and a decisive moment to make it or break it, and they face that moment with their head up high going against impossible odds.

But building a company is nothing like a decisive moment, not like kicking the decisive penalty kick in the World Cup Final, not like kicking the 50yd field goal into the wind to win the Super Bowl, given that we are speaking about extreme ballsy individuals it’s not like playing a round of Russian Roulette either.

It’s quite the opposite, a very boring and slow grind where there is no decisive moment and the whole process is very anti climatic.

So in a sense yeah you need some grit because you risk wasting your life away but it’s not what I’d define balls.
Of all of them, Sky's voice seems the most sober. I've been using it as a Plus subscriber for several weeks now and am also very impressed.

Yes, sometimes it thinks I'm done speaking when I'm not, but on the whole it's very good. Siri/Alexa, et al are not only unusable but are now supremely frustrating.
I like this take. The onus is on these devs to learn how to use available tools effectively to split up their changes.

There's a clear parallel here to the idea of a "genius" who isn't able to communicate their ideas effectively. Can they really be considered that smart if no one understands them?
Hard to defend this level of flex, though:

> Mr. Altman, the chief executive, recently made a move to push out one of the board’s members because he thought a research paper she had co-written was critical of the company.

It's like your job is to fire me if I fail to fulfill the company mission, but I will fire you if you don't get my approval before saying stuff in public.
They monetize that by selling ads so no, you aren’t paying anyway, you’re just freeloading. If you didn’t have an ad blocker (or used Premium) the creators of your videos would be getting paid for you watching.
> Has anyone come across a solution where model can iterate (eg, with prompts like "move the bicycle to the left side of the photo")? It feels like we're close.

Nearly all of the available models have this, even the highly commercialized ones like in Adobe Firefly and Canva, it’s called inpainting in most tools.
This is related, but from four years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET1fRlm4IO0
Hong Kong MTR does it well, metal seats, easy to clean
This is straightforward guilt-by-association: because of the mere fact that Scott interacted with people espousing neo reactionary views, he must also be sympathetic to those views. Of course, this is completed wrong and easily known by reading Scotts writings on the topic: https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/10/20/the-anti-reactionary-f...

There is zero way to say in good faith the Scott espouses or even agrees with neo reactionism.
I highly recommend a tour of your local electricity distribution substation, you will learn a lot about how the modern world operates. If you can visit one of the main power plants then that's even better.
Smarttube fir Android TV?
So, it could also be that she approached him on the subject multiple times, after-all, she is a member of a board whose job is to make AI safety a priority thing.

After his plans for rapid expansion and commercialization were in direct contrast to the company's aims, I guess she wrote the paper to highlight the issue.

It seems that, like in the case of Disney, the board has lower power and control than the CEO. Highly likely if you have larger than life people like Sam at the helm.

I would not trust the board, but I would also not trust Sam. When billions of dollars are at stake, its important to be critical of all the parties involved.
Because it’s hard. I’m not aware of any full duplex speech assistant existing yet.
First the board allowed the For profit corp to form, and now is firing the guy that did it. Second, they allow a board member to build a competing startup. What kind of AI safty/alignment/save the world crap is that?
They run negative profit margins:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SPOT/spotify-techn...

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SPOT/spotify-techn...
I thought the drug dealers in my hometown were ruthless sociopaths until I had to start doing deals with change-the-world mild mannered old navy-wearing Stanford Silicon Valley dudes.
Apparently not…
You can attempt to show intent to a judge and jury with physical evidence and witness testimony. It just needs to be a better story with better props than the other side can put together!

During the discovery phase of a legal case the court will order inspections, evidence to be produced, depositions, expert reports, etc. Somewhere in there is an arrangement of facts that signifies some kind of intent behind an action.
How could this scale? Does the FTC choose what they will investigate?
Honestly "you should only have small PRs" is one of those cultural things more people should invest in. Small changes really are both faster and less bug-prone.

To make it work, you have to think differently and code differently. You have to think in advance: "does what I want to do require changing a lot?" If so, think about how else you can solve your problem. Or when implementing something for the first time, think about how difficult it would be for someone to change it.

You end up building things with high cohesion, low coupling, object factories, etc. It makes for very different code that is more maintainable, flexible, easier to change. You end up not needing a big PR, or the changes are to a single high-cohesion component so it's much easier to review than changing 10 different components.
> So -- if appropriate -- he could make changes.

Where are you drawing this conclusion from? Nothing in the text suggests that was his intent - certainly his actions thereafter suggest that he was in fact more concerned with the potential harm to the for-profit company.
I'n a proud adblock user but that makes no sense. High quality video storage & streaming is costly.
Unfortunately, bun is unusable due to a myriad of bugs. I closely monitor every bun release, hoping it will function well beyond simple node use cases. The idea is amazing, and I would love to switch to bun, but looking at the issues - no, not yet. How can I trust bun to be a secure runtime with all these bugs?
What about Octave and R, which are open source and for $0?
This is hilarious, because clay is just such an amazing material.
Yes, I would call that fairly substantial considering its underlying architecture is no longer viable -- not because of Microsoft's fault, but as the industry as whole moved away from the plugin-based AIR.

Silverlight was somewhat of a unique situation, as it was a platform where it heavily relied on the platform that was phasing out. (And to clarify, that "decade" is the period that Microsoft was committed to support for latest Silverlight 5. Their first version was released in 2007, so it had about 14 years of history.)

As with Java or any other languages, you can still run it if the environment it runs can be resurrected. (I would not connect that to the internet, though)
And many parts of what actually powered Silverlight still thrive in a form of .Net.

I mean where they can support, Microsoft tends to keep its compatibility fairly intact, for instance modern Windows still can run many of the 32-bit binaries from early days. (And you even could do the same for 16-bit apps on a 32-bit platform, not sure if that's still possible, though.)
The new model on the front page atm (StyleTTS) is found to be more humanlike than actual human voice.
"The board's mission became to destroy OpenAI itself" is ... less sane? ... than everything else that has happened.
Netflix is writing the script blow by blow as it is happening.
Yeah, this is my plans to add as well. I want to refine it a little bit from coding standpoint first.
The "extensions" link just leads to the bard homepage if you haven't both logged in and accepted terms.
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of my fifteen hundred microservice infrastructure configured with Chef, no actually Puppet, no actually Ansible, no actually Terraform, no actually Tofu, no actually Pulumi. Wait, what is Docker Swarm and does anyone use it?
With billions of dollars at stake, there is a multi-million-dollar PR-/propaganda-/media war being fought right in front of our eyes.
You can do "constrained decoding" on a code model which keeps it grammatically correct.

But we haven't gotten diffusion working well for text/code, so generating long files is a problem.
If a company train the model from scratch, on its own dataset, could the resulting model be used commercially?
I have a theory that you can fine tune them as well on consumer gpus on your codebase, which would be even more interesting for self hosting.
>We are concerned about late-stage AGI development becoming a competitive race without time for adequate safety precautions. Therefore, if a value-aligned, safety-conscious project comes close to building AGI before we do, we commit to stop competing with and start assisting this project. We will work out specifics in case-by-case agreements, but a typical triggering condition might be “a better-than-even chance of success in the next two years.

how could this possibly be accomplished when trying to sell the product itself.
Investors pouring Billions into it are in it for profit... they're not going to let you just stop, or help a competitor for free.
Why people prefer to use a web browser from an ad company is beyond me. I never ever understood Chrome's huge fanbase.
The non-profit OpenAI has no stockholders.
"In the email, Mr. Altman said that he had reprimanded Ms. Toner for the paper and that it was dangerous to the company, particularly at a time, he added, when the Federal Trade Commission was investigating OpenAI over the data used to build its technology."
You would prefer that $billions be managed by the same snakes in suits who destroy the environment, market products that give people lung cancer, etc.?
Okay so after 8 months, after being released in 48 languages and 238 countries, for some reason, Bard still isn't available in Canada?

This has to be a joke.