skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
My current ill-informed guess is blackmail against the board with a demand to stop further development. Obviously I have no evidence, but it fits marginally less poorly than the other random guesses people are making.
> Why the confrontational tone?

Your own original comment was confrontational and hostile: "The most egregious thing the Boomers did", "Either way it was the Boomers."

It's not even a question of what the Reagan and/or Clinton administrations did. The problem with your comment was the absurdity of throwing around the "Boomers" stereotype.

I think it's silly to blame everything on Boomers, a totally arbitrary slice of the population, who are in fact as demographically and politically diverse as any other age group. Moreover, it has now become commonplace for younger people to call everyone who is older them a "Boomer", regardless of whether that term is accurate, in a kind of willful ignorance.

No, not all Boomers are the same, and no, they don't control the world.
Also, since he's on the board, and it wouldn't have been Brockman or Altman who gave him this info... there are only three people left:
"non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner."
The 9 minutes interview with Satya is worth a watch. Good avoidance of some key questions, but still worth it. If not for anything else, to understand what the official position of MS is: we want Sam, from OAI or as a part of MS matters not much.
>hard to analyze by antivirus

Isn't it just a matter of updating the AV to be aware of this format? It's not like APE is the only "weird" binary format that exists, since there's stuff like UPX (which is indeed flagged by many AVs).
Of course, just like the book Lolita can contain some of the most disgusting and abhorrent content in literature with using a single “bad word”!
Whatever for?
It’s amazing how every action the board takes (or the new CEO chosen by the board) just makes them look worse.

I’d like to offer my consulting services: my new consulting company will come in, and then whatever you want to do we will tell you not to. We provide immense value by stopping companies like OpenAI from shooting off their foot. And then their other foot. And then one of their hands.
most people working at openai are subject to the same harsh market conditions everyone is.

also, do you really care that the CEO was fired as long as you are getting payed what it was agreed upon when you got hired and you are doing interesting work?
Yes and that’s fine. Hell, it might even good for people who have a superiority complex about disliking pop culture.

Drama is fun, and this is top tier drama.
Yeah it's bad. But it's also why Microsoft can't really roll them over. They actually do something and get payed for it, as horrible as it is.
The fact that, of all people, the Microsoft CEO is on the show commenting on OpenAI's current personnel issues, might have been the exact reason for that unfortunate shakeup at OpenAI in the first place.

Don't make this co-op end up as a lousy weakJedi/Sith rip-off.

Bing.
Put me in the "Ilya didn't realize what firing Altman / demoting Brockman would actually mean and is trying to correct his mistake" camp.
Yes, in the world outside of the so called developed world and USSR or China (what applied their own 1 child policy).

Africa is just an example here. India for example grew from 360 million to 1.4 billion today.
This opens up an interesting (albeit highly unethical and illegal) strategy to combat ransomware, which could be implemented by state actors:

1. hack targets and hold their data for ransom

2. get the ransom and release the data anyway

This would largely discredit the actual ransomware gangs. A way to make this more ethical would be to have the data be insignificant or encrypted. The media will still have their story, and public perception will be changed.

An even better way would be to secretly coordinate with the "targets" of the hacks, turning the whole thing into a harmless spectacle that nevertheless decreases the incentive to hold data for ransom.
"falling into the arms of state actors that won't be so moral about it?"

What do you mean by "moral"? State actors have interests, major corporations also have their interests. Very few of them can be called moral.

Big tech was always about power and money. No morals there.
>They didn’t even make Firefox, someone else did and they took it over, they had no foresight.

this is bullshit. people working on Netcape's dime, myself included, under the Mozilla project umbrella, and with approval from the Mozilla leadership, myself included, created the browser that would come to be Firefox.
Ain't that even older?
Eighties tech instead of nineties.
For me, getting Latex out of the dependency chain is a huge attraction. Just too much cruft and slowness and mysterious errors. Seems way too outdated today. I hope something like typst can provide a nice, fast and modern pdf generator backend. My understanding is that pandoc already supports typst.
Why would there be no need? I'm struggling to understand the paradox.

If you're trying to maximize some goal g, and making better AIs is an instrumental goal that raises your expected value of g, then if "making an AI that's better at making AIs" has a reasonable cost and an even higher expected value, you'd jump to seize the opportunity.

Or am I misunderstanding you?
Living off inherited wealth is kind of the economic definition of rent-seeking. Rent is a technical term in economics, going back to the times of lords and serfs.
Does it matter in the context of the article? Would any option from that list make retaliation okay?
Then you aren't an engineer. You are just a cog.
I'm sorry! It was indeed downweighted, though not by a mod - there are other ways that that can happen.

I'm not sure why I thought otherwise—it's possible that I didn't look at the correct comment, or possibly I looked at it before it got downweighted, though neither of those seem likely. In any case, I definitely don't want to give you, or any user, inaccurate information and I'm sorry about that.

As for the comment itself, I don't think it was terribly good for HN—it was more on the snark/fulmination/flamewar side of the ledger, rather than the curious conversation we're looking for, as described at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. If I had seen it I might have downweighted it too, though probably not as much.
The only reliable way to predict whether it's aligned or not would be to look at game theory. And game theory tells us that with enough AI agents, the equilibrium state would be a competition for resources, similar to anything else that happens in nature. Hence, the AI will not be aligned with humanity.
And now AI-Something.
having done the proglang course by dan grossman long ago, they use sml too, i knew lisps, ocaml, and others, but sml smallness was really really appealing
Please take this as constructive criticism: telling an interviewer you’re not interested in the product and you only care about collecting a paycheck comes across as arrogant and is a huge red flag. Ultimately, people hire people they want to work with. You might be in the top 0.1% rust programmers, and I would still not hire you because of that attitude.
Possibly so, but every single CEO in the world is not some evil automaton.
That's fair. Very unconventional for people to go just to India for seven months to trip and look for inspiration, though - know what I mean? :)
Completely with you. It’s time to move on from Latex. Couldn’t hope more for the success of a better alternative!
Unless the humans (living humans) are resources that AIs can use.
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If Altman ends up going back to OpenAI, then shouldn't Sutskever be fired/kicked off the board too?
On the licence free side you are on the mercy of you national regulators. Some countries have additional bands that allow crypto.

But one can usually just buy a business band license for digital radios and then run DMR with AES256.
Overspending also kills, and Argentina is currently in the overspending scenario.
You know, when I first got into binary encoding into text I asked myself this very question but never put any effort into looking it up.

Now, 25+ years later, I have some answers - thanks!
Why he thinks that he has any authority to say this? Because of money and power he has?
How do we tell whether it's safe or whether it's pretending to be safe?
Right time was around 20 years ago.

Now they have too much power. They are practically running a part of the government.
I'm really curious why people would find this news worthy...
What if it is false information to harm opportunists?
Or Binance could pay with BUSD stablecoins.
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My understanding is that the models are not super advanced in terms of lines and complexity of code. Key researches, such as Ilya probably can help a team recreate much of the training and data preparation code relatively quickly. Which means that any company with access to enough compute would be able to catch up with OpenAI's current status relatively quickly, maybe in less than a year.

The top researchers on the other hand, espcially those who have shown an ability to successfully innovate time and time again (like Ilya), are much harder to recreate.
Pretty bad look for Satya to be honest. 12 hours ago, everyone was convinced Satya was playing 4D chess, but in reality Occam's Razor again - he was just lying.

As Matt Levine likes to say - everything is a security's fraud and in this case, it might actually be. It is now abundantly clear that those statements were merely to hold the stock price drop come Monday.
As with everything though, prices for experimental procedures and devices are vastly higher than the asymptotic cost of production. There's nothing about a CRISPR process that cannot in principle be automated, it's just that right now it involves an army of lab techs with pipettes.
I think you need to do reasonable effort. Perfect security doesn’t exist.
When will the torrents be created and released?

https://wiki.freebsd.org/Torrents

EDIT: Looks like they're up now!
> Have they been feeding motions into chatgpt and asking “should add I do this?”

The CEO (at time of writing, I think) seems to think this kind of thing is unironically a good idea: https://nitter.net/eshear/status/1725035977524355411#m
Contribute, yes sure, but not as a timebase for compute and generating motor output. Upper motor neurons need amazingly tight coactivation to achieve fine temporal control of spinal motor neurons when throwing a fast ball—-well under a millisecond (William Calvin, The Throwing Madonna). I do not see any EEG patterns as causal in this context. Nor between retina and visual cortex.

Arguing in your favor, rhythms may be important in getting closer to an adaptive coordination of activation and inhibition. Retinal waves during development are thought to contribute (controversially) to retinotopic maps. The big question again is How does the CNS-body achieve adaptive temporal integration and functional harmony? No one knows.
Okay, I see. I'm less worried about AI running the whole thing, and more about the diminishing quality of life for creators. Also I'm less sure than you about AI being unable to compete with larger pieces of work in the near future, especially books and comics seem pretty doable. Humans might stay in control, but over time it moves from creation towards curation, which is pretty different and has different implications over who gets to experience artistic fulfillment, and who gets to make a living. But hopefully you are right and it takes long enough that we can make some sort of societal adjustment.
That's interesting to me because I get splitting headaches from just a few sips of red wine. I've always assumed it was sulfites that caused that.
Mentorship practices that improve the culture of peer review
Funny reading this comment on Hacker News' New feed.
If you're a USA citizen you're under no obligation to answer any of their questions, and in fact answering any of them can only really hurt you. You shouldn't ever answer questions from any form of cop without your lawyer present, and even at the border you still don't have to, though they have more unconstitutional but legal leeway to seize your stuff and hold you as punishment.

American cops across the board are getting more bold in their degradation of civilians and we shouldn't stand for it.

Even tsa only has one thing they're legally allowed to do: determine you don't have weapons you're trying to bring onto the plane. Whenever I have to deal with TSA I say I forgot my ID. "But you're in the international terminal you need your passport to board." Aw bummer I guess the airline won't let me fly, here's my boarding pass. They pat me down of course but they eventually let me in, every time, cause they have to.

If every American exercised their rights with the TSA the charade would collapse instantly as lines extended to hours long and security protocols were relaxed so people could get to their flights. I got to witness this firsthand after defcon once when all the attendees arriving at the airport around the same time were refusing to show ID to TSA and refusing to do the genital scanner, and a bunch of tourists were stuck in line for hours with strange people in black hoodies extolling to them the dangers of their Facebook account, until TSA finally just started pushing people through the metal detector as fast as they could.
Sunset Boulevard may be getting its own sphere, but don't call it that
Then your twin might be able to enter an airport terminal without first spending a couple hundred dollars on a ticket.
These headlines need to be timestamped.
I’m not doubting this - but can you provide anything to substantiate that reputable ransomeware negotiators are a thing? [edit - nm I googled it, it’s a thing]
Uhh yes.

They are Open AIs largest investor and gives Open AI a steep discount on compute.
Personally I've found Temporal very limited as a queue: no FIFO ordering (!), no priorities, no routing, etc. It's also very complex when you just want async jobs, and more specialized than a DB or message broker, which can be used for many other things. I think there's a place for both.
Windows Swift can be installed before or after Visual Studio
Yeah I always think of my old S5 when people start making nonsensical arguments how this and that isn't possible.
Well, we're talking about someone who was in legal trouble for taking information from academic libraries that he thought should be free for all. He was willing to put himself at a great personal risk for the sake of making information free. So he would probably be critical of OpenAI for not being open enough, and would probably champion the cause for more and better open source models.
As if I was going to read an entire book about a cradle, whether or not it belonged to a cat...

But I kid, of course. I read that, and this rather cute article about an author I adored as a teenager. The house isn't haunted, but... well, I won't spoil it.
I'm sure theres some overlap especially between those who espouse one or both philosophies but I think the author might be confusing one for the other.
> This is "human monitor or the car might do a safe stop and block traffic."

And they need all those people because their software cannot reliably handle it itself.

Otherwise they would not used so many people.

> A human driver can easily get away with the latter, and often do. A self-driving car can't, because people hold them to higher standards.

LOL. They've been blocking streets all over the place.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/30/cruise-robotaxis-blocked-t...
Random low-level employees looking at stuff out of curiosity won't have the power or even the motive to act on that data.

For higher-level people it really just isn't worth the risk, unless there's some incredibly valuable secret.
That's why I never order through delivery website. Either the restaurant has their own delivery service with a standard employee, either I take out.
It seems like if the fuel costs were to go down, you'd want a larger plane, since crew and maintenance costs would make up a larger fraction of the costs?

[edit]

Looks like the site answers this; reduced maintenance costs when not having a high-temperature turbine are predicted to lead to similar CASM as a 737 despite being about 1/3 the seats.
I'm not defending anything - I definitely have my own thoughts on the matter, I'm just trying to be conscientious about what I publicly say about my employer.

However, I don't believe that engineers are intentionally disfavoring Firefox, trying to drive market share down to "run out the clock" or "sabotage" competitors.

For all its dysfunction, Google does tend to hire well-intentioned people - the person being quoted even said as much. There's also a long list of annual trainings that coach people to tread lightly regarding anything that might be perceived as anticompetitive.

It's fair to talk about the craft of engineering and how different processes have different effects. Like I said, I have to be conscientious about what I say, so I'm not going to engage that point. But loaded language like "sabotage" and "run out the clock" suggests a malicious intent that I don't believe exists.
How about transplanting some badgers or wolverines? Yea. Into Manhattan. Just an idea.
Is attribute illegal or harassing or just something you don't like?

Because those are very important distinctions for formal complaints.
Money. :-/
What else do you think research and development investment is?

This thread, and this entire topic, is a discussion about things that currently don't exist and aren't currently possible. We are all aware that self driving vehicles are future technology, not an existing one.
If you can choose to not use it, then you don't need it. It doesn't enable any new capabilities.
> nobody is flying an airplane that only 'works' 99.99% of the time

Might I introduce you to the Tupolev Tu-134?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incide...
> do you really care that the CEO was fired as long as you are getting payed what it was agreed upon ...

I can't speak to the mood of specific staff at OpenAI but as to the question in general; Hell yeah to the Nth degree.

I'm 60, I've had a long career and have been through two instances of companies falling out at the board level.

I've onboarded at various projects because I cared about the projects and work that'd I would be doing and because I was more or less in line with the direction being taken and the people I worked with and those setting the course.

When the board and C level start having a messy relationship and divorce it matters very much which side of the split I go with or whether I just up stakes and move on elsewhere.

Pay alone isn't worth putting up with dysfunction from above or falling in line with a faction you never especially aligned with.
They created a new enforcement division and doubled the number of positions working on crypto enforcement last year.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-78
I switch to Edge before completing a purchase; its coupons extension saved me loads of money.
Well, Gary Gensler is on record in 2023 saying Bitcoin is not a security. So, I don't think it's accurate to say "probably all." In previous years Ethereum had also been described as not a security, but that opinion seems to have shifted with time.

It's still not super clear to me why he says Bitcoin is not a security, but that Ethereum would be a security. I'm fine with whatever ruling as long as I can understand how it's being applied. I feel pretty good about considering stable coins securities. I'm less certain about NFTs since there is receipt of a (semi)tangible product.

I wonder if the recent introduction of ordinals to Bitcoin will result in his opinion on BTC shifting soon, too?
Seems like an achievement - if you have Swift installed, it seems Visual Studio will detect it. I wonder how.
That trial was specifically for familial types of hypercholesterolemia, which are strongly genetic. Not clear that it would also work for run-of-the-mill high cholesterol, although it is possible.
True, that's my gripe.
If it doesn't matter that it's public, then why did Boeing try to keep it secret?
I mean that was pretty good design for 1996.
I was addressing your point that:

> lambda functions in python have as much expressive power as any function.

There is no fundamental reason why Python doesn’t have let, and there is no fundamental reason to not be able to catch exceptions within a lambda. Python already fixed the unneeded print statement in its history so I think there is hope. (I don’t think js is relevant here; I was trying to explain why lispers or people who like Haskell may revisit their improved expressive environments).
I have a similar requirement and will be doing exactly this.
In my family it's the white wine that gives us headaches. Half a glass is more than enough for me. On the other hand, I can drink red wine until I die of alcohol poisoning without getting a headache.
I think there’s a wide range here: we’re talking about banking so I think a position that it’s not otherwise exciting or that you’re excited by the technology and scale is not going to be seen as “your product sucks” and shouldn’t count against you. Now, it might mean you shouldn’t be doing UX for it but there’s a ton of work where you just need to work well with the people designing the user side & understand how people use it, not be leading the concept.