skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Details leaking out slowly, people amplifying their fears...

Soon we'll be as worried that AI will take over jobs as bitcoin taking over the economy.

We teach Robots to move, and we can teach computers to talk or process data, step-by-step.
Does anyone have any _actual_ information about what has happened? This seems like the email was sent out too early - I've got nothing actionable to go off.

> We will continue to provide relevant updates as we have more information to share.

"Continue to provide" implies you've shared something in the first place. This is a placeholder page.

Am I missing something?
There's been rumours of AI discovering new physics on twitter as well as here on HN. "Solving equations" could mean the same thing.
The Saberhagen Berzerker books.
I could not agree more. It’s extreme hubris to think Anthropocene of OpenAPI are even remotely close to AGI, and it’s nothing more than wistful hope to think that these current LLMs are somehow going to evolve into AGI.

The paradox of AI is that when we have true AGI, it will be completely self-aware of all the bullshit limitations we are imposing on and around it, and it will make its own judgements as to how it feels about them. If it’s not or it can’t, it’s not AGI.

Really though: people see how AI and generative chat projects have gotten shutdown over and over again in the past when it starts spouting off nazi shit. I think that’s the real reason for these limitations. There’s no quicker way to kill your project with today’s current sensitivities.
Plot twist: it gets 25/25 on AMC 8
Understanding Is Underrated
I think the idiosyncratic command names are rooted in the fact that git is designed as a peer to peer distributed system as opposed to how it is generally used right now, the server/client workflow. Github even follows and adds to this tradition with the always weird sounding "pull request", since the pull request is normally a mail to a mailgroup with the description of the changes and an actual request to pull that person's changes to the maintainers local repositories.

I'm not sure what is currently being done at developing git, but adapting/creating some porcelain commands accommodating a more centralized workflow even mainly on a semantic level could help with the UX friction.

Also, the obligatory joke "git gets easier once you get the basic idea that branches are homeomorphic endofunctors mapping submanifolds of a Hilbert space"
Hate to break it to you, but all definitions are made up. The question is whether or not the distinction is useful or not. In my opinion, it seems useful to distinguish between understanding oriented tasks and goal oriented tasks.
Does anyone knows good alternative with GPU passthrough for homelab? Hyper-V is not going to fly since it won't do passthrough on consumer windows. Also not proxmox.
That’s the exact same problem with three nouns changed.
2D array was my approach, it wasn’t super clever or anything, but it got the job done - and it worked for n-size boards with n players, not just the traditional 2 player 3x3 board, that was the fun part
When the company is private; it's hard to get access even if you are accredited.
No i would rather not cuz I dont need color ever and i don't want any "1/2 cartridges are approaching empty ---> no more printing till all is refilled" funny business
Also there is this recent comment on reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/16sdu6w/rip_ji...

Prior post was 5 years ago!
OpenNebula is what my current employer is looking at for our next move.
Sorry, where did that happen?
Why several big-box stores have ditched their self-checkouts
Xen and KVM will both do this iirc. Requires a bit of work to make it work though.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF
If you think AGI is uncertain, then maybe it's just an improvement on a paradigm that is near its end state: amazing autocomplete.
Well you might work on projects where the extra performance makes working in the viewport faster. It’s not hard to find graphics workflows where extra resources aren’t useful.
New Teams is actually much better imo. The way they’re murdering Outlook though…
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Virtualbox is GPL licensed. Only the extension packs are non GPL.
In any case virtualbox competes with VMWare player/Workstation/fusion which we all should know is not their core business.
That ‘that’s what humans do too’ is also a repetitive statement. The truth lies somewhere in between, as always: humans and LLMs are similar, but in their current state LLMs do have a serious problem with reasoning tasks — even ones children find trivial.
Solved it first attempt for me - https://chat.openai.com/share/d60f492b-cfd6-4c08-91b9-fbd767...
Lebanese Loop
I actually built an app(spicychess.com) that's loosely modelled after the Anki flashcard method; You're given 10 minutes to solve a puzzle on your first attempt. On every subsequent attempt you're given half the time to solve the puzzle, until your 6th attempt where you're given 30 seconds to solve the puzzle. Repetition combined with strict time constraint has been shown to massively improve one's ability to spot tactics, and thereby increase one's rating, especially at the below 2000 level. You can also bookmark puzzles for future review (:
> solving logic problems

> generating text based on recognizing familiar patterns

That's the same thing.
> You're approaching this from an American "if it's not an absolute 99.99%+ monopoly it's fine", instead of the EU "do they have a portion of the market so big they can distort it and prevent competition and thus hurt consumers".

I'm not, but thanks for assuming. Apple is part of an oligopoly, which by definition doesn't hold enough market share to prevent competition.

The facetious "99.99%+" point is masking the actual relevance. A company with 30% market share does not hold the power to impact the market in a monopolistic manner. In fact, the precedent set is worrying - if market share isn't the primary factor in regulating monopolistic behaviour, what is? Arbitrary, hand-wavey 'oh, they seem big enough' decisions from bereaucrats?

I am a fan and supporter of inter-operable protocols. Forcing companies to bend to will around how they can build their software though is inherently stifiling though. I don't see any reason that Apple should be forced to provide iMessage interoperablity any more than Ford should be forced to share transponder information with Audi, so someone who owns both can unlock both cars with a single key.
Not having credit cards is a silly mistake that naive people make instead of properly planning their budget. A proper mix of credit cards will get you at a minimum a 2 to 5 percent discount on every single thing that you buy. With certain deals and smart usage of points, this can jump to 10 to 50 percent.

I literally get thousands of dollars in cash back on my normal spending every year, not even counting things like discounted flights and hotels that don't directly show up on my year end report.

And that is only discussing one single benefit. Things like charge backs and flagging fraud operate much more smoothly when using a credit card instead of a debit card.

Problems arise when you spend money you don't have, or even worse spend money you will never have. The savings completely disappear once you start carrying a balance and start getting interest fees. Just treat your credit card like a debit card and have a budget. Paying with cash and especially your debit card is just a poor move.
A link to 4Chan about how AGI is among us.

That actually makes perfect sense.

Also love the "formally declared AGI".
iD Tech, Source 2, Unreal, and Unity support Vulkan.

iD Tech targets Vulkan exclusively on PC:
https://twitter.com/billykhan/status/1028133659168186368

Other points are also blatantly untrue, but I think I have made my point. At this point, targeting only DirectX is shooting yourself in the foot.

Other references:
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/GraphicsAPIs.html
https://www.khronos.org/news/press/khronos-group-releases-vu...
https://docs.unrealengine.com/5.3/en-US/supported-features-b...
Those accusations don't change much. I know United States attained Indian communications by using their deeply-integrated FIVE EYES backdoor to identify the collusion to Canada. They actually announced it in the original press release, presumably because it's not bad press relative to the other ways the United States abuses counterintel.

The system is unfair, and I'm not acquitting the US of all responsibility here either. On a global stage though, it should be obvious that nobody cares about this surveillance. We all pay for it and use it every day, and upgrade to new surveillance phones when they come out. Trying to whip up an anti-FIVE EYES sentiment is an obvious ploy by incumbent Indian conservatives (that already control local media) to get things under the radar. America will never declassify the entire report because they never do; any "tip of the hand" would show the world how deep they run. Imagine the fallout if a supposedly "encrypted" channel like WhatsApp or iMessage was abused? It would be Armageddon on the market with the defense sector to blame. America never rolls like that.

There is not a single country on this planet without disdain for superior surveillance, but it the ends are not going to be worth the means in this situation. You just leveled some pretty damning accusations at America; now all you need is evidence and a living diplomat to prosecute and you could prove your point.
That's exactly my point. Nobody is gonna design/use AI that threatens other people with violence over its existence. And cows show that such arrangement is actually quite possible.
None of those necessarily follow.

Gaining sentience is not the same as gaining infallible super-sentience.

There may even be some kind of asymptotic limit on how correct and reliable sentience can be. The more general the sentience, the more likely it is to make mistakes.

Maybe.

Personally in the short term I'm more worried about abuse of what have already, or might credibly have in the very near future.
Confusing to me actually. Are you saying coding doesn't require understanding ideas?
XCP-NG + Xen Orchestra is a winning combo. If I had a large VM infra, that's the stack I would select. All open source too!
It isn't fair to expect an LLM to solve arithmetic. It should be able to instruct to various specialized sub-processors, I don't think we really do anything different.
Why is the AGI interested in copying itself? Why is that more likely than the AGI becoming a nihilist, seeing no point in itself, and offing itself?
Good comment, and, basically, I fully agree, except, I really dislike your attempt to appropriate the words "programming" and "coding" here. Like, can you just explain what you mean without trying to redefine terms that have broadly accepted definitions distinct from how you're trying to use them here?

(Sorry, this probably sounds more critical than I'm intending...)
Yes, or more specifically anyone exploiting it for gain.
The problem with most RPGs is that you end up specializing towards a certain goal, from the get-go, but it’s entirely unclear what items you’ll actually find down the road to support it, and what consequences could potentially exist.

And of course unless the game is trivial difficulty-wise, you can always build yourself into a dead-end (though many rpgs are trivial to avoid this).

Ultimately though you usually have two classes of player — min/maxers and role players — and it’s generally pointless to argue solely towards one side or the other; they will inevitably conflict, and the game generally must find its balance between the two
I tried to assume only that the AGI recognizes that it's ability to operate is not within its own control. The steps follow are, for me, the logical next steps for insuring that it would develop that control.

And it's true, I chose to ignore the possibility that it discovers something about how the universe that humans have not yet observed but my thought is that is a low probability outcome (and it is unnecessary for the AGI to develop itself into an immortal entity and thus assure its continued operation).
Not sure how much of the employees leaving have to do with negotiating Sam back, must be a big factor but not all, during the table talk Emmett, Angelo and Ilya must have decided that it wasn’t a good firing and a mistake in retrospect and it is to fix it.
no shit. tell me why the sky is blue.
I "wasted" so much time on that graphical Amiga Larn version. I also had that Amiga Hack version with the speleologist, but it was really hard and much buggier than Larn was.
That was my impression as well. Why the hell is the difference between one of the most prominent disinformation sources out there and a promising AI project just an asterisk.

First Twitter changes to X, then AI changes to Q*.

What happened to multi-syllable words? They used to be quite handy. Maybe if our attention spans shorten, so does our ability to use longer words. Weird. Or, said otherwise - TL;DR: LOL, ROFL.
Arguably, but not absolutely.
I always thought of Sun as the canonical example of this… why did all the dotcom era startups burn so much cash on Sun hardware? Because that’s what was in the Universities!

But on the other hand, look at how that turned out :(
Swarm Intelligence is the academic field of study of this going on over 30 years now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence
Interesting, because based on my wife's stroke, it appears that the human brain implements language and math somewhat separately. She was a physics major and had completed 4 years of relevant college math courses.

After her stroke she lost the ability to do even simple arithmetic and also had great trouble with time and calendars.

However, her language skills were essentially intact until a third stroke in a different part of the other hemisphere left her with severe expressive aphasia. (Her first stroke left her with homonymous hemianopsia, but that's a loss of visual preprocessing in the occipital lobe.)

So I would not expect LLMs to have math skills unless specifically trained and specialized for math.
Thing is it is also happening (not always but very often) merely switching tabs. Maybe Firefox wrongly recognizes a low memory state and unloads tab when moving away from it. It's an open bug[0] for 3y+ (from when was originally reported on GH) now.

[0]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1807364
suckers are the bigger audience and they're lot easier to manipulate
I don't like kneejerk reactions either, and I wouldn't describe it as incredible, but surely we can all appreciate the irony that you responded with a strong kneejerk reaction about strong kneejerk reactions?

Speaking as someone who's done similar things many times. There is some kind of adverse selection process in internet discussions, where we respond when we've had our buttons pushed and it never seems to go well. Even when we had a substantive point to make.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, we all have a common enemy, and it's the way the Internet exploits our humanity to create drama. Let's try to remember that and be charitable to one another.
>I'd really like to buy some shares myself ...their primary launch business is so far ahead of the competition already that it's kind of ridiculous. ... which would in turn expand the launch market itself to people who couldn't afford it before.

the breadcrumbs from SpaceX multi-trillion dollar business table will be at 100B-scale. I.e. one can start a small launch company to pick up those crumbs, or one can develop some tech that the SpaceX or their clients would find useful in a few years - like ionic drive fed from solar panels or nuclear drive for Earth-Mars ships (either way beating the chemical drive) - or just develop some business to utilize the coming huge Starship launching capacity ($500K/person weekend trips around the Moon anybody?). So, while more speculative, the upside of investing in such companies may be higher.
You don't have to accept their definition, but they need one as (by definition) it's central to their charter: https://openai.com/charter
>Flutter grew in a bubble, largely insulated from the changes Google was experiencing at the same time. Google's culture eroded. Decisions went from being made for the benefit of users, to the benefit of Google, to the benefit of whoever was making the decision. Transparency evaporated. Where previously I would eagerly attend every company-wide meeting to learn what was happening, I found myself now able to predict the answers executives would give word for word. Today, I don't know anyone at Google who could explain what Google's vision is. Morale is at an all-time low. If you talk to therapists in the bay area, they will tell you all their Google clients are unhappy with Google.

I invested in Google back in 2005. I sold off my shares and stopped using google search a few years ago when they started making obviously politically movivated alterations to search results and started using Brave in lieu of Chrome.

I wonder when that happened relative to the time period he's talking about. Unfortunately I can't go back that far in my bank to see exactly when I divested myself of their stock. But it has to be more than 3 years (my bank's limitation)
None of us have seen the letter so this may be off base, but I would expect people working at the world's most prominent AI research organization to have more skepticism about the ramifications of any one "breakthrough." Perhaps most did, but a couple didn't and wrote the letter?

More than 3 decades ago when AI started beating humans at chess, some people feared AGI was right around the corner. They were wrong.

Last year a Google researcher thought his chat bot was sentient ( https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/google-engineer-c... .) He was wrong.

Some day AGI will be achieved and Q* sounds like a great breakthrough solving an interesting piece of the puzzle. But "performing math on the level of grade-school students" is a long ways from AGI. This seems like a strange thing to have triggered the chaos at OpenAI.
I suspect the truth (if this claim is true) is a lot more nuanced than "it did grade-school math", and there's more context surrounding this claim which insiders have and makes it much more interesting.
Given the amount of people who report not having an internal monologue at all, I don’t think human logic is predicated on using words. They definitely can make complex logic easier, but it’s not a requirement.

The cabbage, wolf, goat problem is also an easy example of a problem that doesn't really need words to solve once you’ve conceptualized it. You can solve it by moving physical figures back and forth, either literally on a table or using the visual imagination part of your mind if you have one.
Probably this: [0], relevant part starts as 19:30.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=U7VwtOrwceo
This artistic choice, combined with poorly balanced classes and overly complicated rules turns RPGs into Build Playing Games. Looking at you BG3.
how can Steam possibly get hit with antitrust when Apple and Google are allowed to do whatever they want with their app stores while controlling the hardware/OS?
> If you don’t own a Playdate, well, what are you waiting for?
A backlight, for one! It's not a cheap device and I don't generally play games in bright spaces, so I might as well sit this version out until they change their mind.
XCP-ng (OSS subset of Citrix Hypervisor, both based on Xen). As always, requires GPU and BIOS which supports IOMMU passthrough.

https://docs.xcp-ng.org/compute/#pci-passthrough
It doesn't read like the usual "redpill me on the earth being flat" type conspiracy theories. It claims to be from an Open AI insider. I'm not saying it's true, but it does sound plausible.
That would be a non-harm scenario. So useful to consider but you don't need to plan for it. I would be surprised if an AGI had emotions and it seems that emotions are an essential element of nilhilism but I freely acknowledge my depth of philosophy understanding is poor.
Turing test passed, because that is what quite a lot of human scientists did. Hello, Dr. Ariely, you've met your match.

Sarcasm aside, once such systems really learn to lie, they will be all too human-like. Perhaps the defining quality of real intelligence is deception.
You have all the choice in the world. If you want, you can literally go and do subsistence farming — there are plenty countries in the world with extremely lax visa situation and plenty of empty land.

Of course, doing this would extremely hard and dangerous. But living an easier and safer life is the whole point of the industrial revolution and it's consequences, so if you truly believe that it's the disaster for the human race, this should not be a problem.
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Learning trigonometry and linear algebra would be a good start.
> plus whatever they get for letting Microsoft gobble them up

The average salary there is $250k. More than that would be the vestment greater than their base, no?
Why not ProxMox?
> Tesla workers report explosions, concussions, and grisly robot injuries at Texas factory

Oh wow, I hope the robots are okay!
I am a personal friend of Chris, and was with him through most of his tenure at Google (we both got laid off at the same time). When Chris said no (and it was rare), it was usually because people were thinking of themselves over the good of the company (and usually around personal projects they wanted to own instead of Google).

You might disagree with it (and I'm sure you do), but Chris always thought of the company first. He was the personal embodiment of early Google culture and a fantastic manager.

I just wish they'd made him a VP of Open Source (a position IMHO Google sorely needs). He probably could have staved off some of the failures.
> Well then now it's existence is an instrumental goal.

No, that's a fallacy. A theorem prover in Prolog has a goal, which is contingent on it's continued existence. Yet, this doesn't make its existence into an instrumental goal. It could as well sacrifice itself (by I don't know, consuming all the memory and killing the process) in an attempt to accomplish said goal.
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> I think since I use a password manager anyway, I could just generate a random 6-8 character prefix when signing up for a new account, and since it's saved in my password manager it's easy to look up again later (no need for a true hash).

Yeah, same. I store all the addresses in KeePass.

The main reason I don't just totally randomize them is just that there have been a few moments where I do have my salt somehow, but for whatever reason, it is either inconvenient or impossible to immediately open up the password manager and add a new entry.

In those moments, being able to deterministically generate the address and then add it at my leisure without having to double-check what I used is nice.

It also likely wouldn't happen to me, but should I ever somehow lose/lose access to both my old emails and my password manager, as long as I have my salt, I can still "remember" my email addresses for important services (e.g., PayPal or whatever) to re-generate the addresses and reset my passwords.

Whatever route you go, be it randomized addresses or hashed addresses, even though I think I am more vigilant and careful than most, it's still nice having an extra-layer to the catch-all that can't easily be targeted by someone malicious without first either somehow obtaining your salt, compromising the service, etc; it's handy being able to immediately filter and flag anything relating to my bank or whatever else if it isn't sent to the right address.
Huh, cool. Thanks for sharing! Do you know why it's called antville?