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> Hmm, this is where I disagree -- if you've been scrambling to help, wouldn't the issue have been fixed by now?

We scrambled to investigate and fix this particular instance (and previous unrelated instances where they'd had problems). When we realised that they were simultaneously screaming about how shit we were, we put it back on the shelf.
We've been using Braintrust for evals at Zapier and it's been really great -- pumped to try out this proxy (which should be able to replace some custom code we've written internally for the same purpose!).
It's an art to do this well. When making a movie, every second counts. You have to make compromises. Some people flat out refuse to accept that movies drop a lot of details from the book, but I appreciate both. It is my clipboard understanding many people in the US dislike Forrest Gump as it's been shoved into their faces by media over and over again, but even after reading the book I still think it's just a really good movie.
I fully buy it. Ethics and morals are a few rungs on the ladder beneath compensation for most software engineers. If the board wants to focus more on being a non-profit and safety, and Altman wants to focus more on commercialization and the economics of business, if my priority is money then where my loyalty goes is obvious.
He's not an anarchist. The creator of the mislabel "anarchocapitalism" was himself an Ayn Rand fan until she basically told him he wasn't an anarchist and he decided to take that personally. Anarchism is the abolition of hierarchical systems of power. "Anarchocapitalism" only refers to the abolition of the state while maintaining all other hierarchical systems and capitalism in particular.

You can not enforce property claims without violence. "Anarchocapitalists" either handwave this with private armies (which is just feudalism with extra steps) or insist on everyone following the Non-Aggression Principle, which is nonsense without a system of enforcement. The more honest types usually fall back to minarchy, i.e. having a small state that basically only consists of a legal system and police force to enforce property claims and resolve disputes.

Heck, the person who came up with the name opposed not only taxes but also the civil rights movement and universal suffrage. The only coherent ideological thread in his life was not wanting to pay taxes, not wanting to have to follow regulations and being convinced he was very smart.
Microsoft has full access to code and weights as part of their deal.
It's so weird that people think a bunch of personnel moving to MS is a win for MS.

They can't just magically recreate what OpenAI has done. The data sets, the tooling, the models, the everything around it. It will take so long for MS to catch up even if they had 100% of their people working on it tomorrow.

The rest of the market is going to benefit more than MS.
When folks say things like "Sears could have been Amazon," I feel like they don't quite see the whole picture.

They adopted digital tech earlier than most other companies.

Sears co-founded the Prodigy dialup service eons before "The Internet" was a household name, and they were selling hardgoods on the web (for delivery or free in-store pickup) when Amazon was still mostly a cheeky book store.

Sears died mostly because of corporate raider tactics that made it impossible for them to survive.
> people being motivated by ego, power, and social status, which is basically always what you eventually end up with in any non-profit.

I've only really been close to one (the owner of the small company i worked at started one), and in the past I did some consulting work for anther, but that describes what I saw in both situations fairly aptly. There seems to be a massive amount of power and ego wrapped up in the creation and running these things from my limited experience. If you were invited to a board, that's one thing, but it takes a lot of time and effort to start up a non-profit, and that's time and effort that could be spent towards some other existing non-profit usually, so I think it's relevant to consider why someone would opt for the much more complicated and harder route than just donating time and money to something else that helps in roughly the same way.
All money is debt. Money is synonymous with debt. Everything you call money, including coins, notes and numbers in a proverbial spreadsheet is a record of a liability of some entity (i.e. debt). Coins and notes are liabilities of the central bank
Have you tried Feedly? One of the sort options is "most popular", although I'm not sure how that works. Older unread stuff ages out automatically after about a month.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344458.

There's nothing wrong with your post! I just need to prune the heaviest subthreads—sorry!
Because that's exactly what he says?
dark colored hats have entered the chat...
except they're a non-profit board...
Why should they trust the board? As the letter says, "Despite many requests for specific facts for your allegations, you have never provided any written evidence." If Altman took any specific action that violated the charter, the board should be open about it. Simply trying to make money does not violate the charter and is in fact essential to their mission. The GPT Store, cited as the final straw in leaks, is actually far cleaner money than investments from megacorps. Commercializing the product and selling it directly to consumers reduces dependence on Microsoft.
Dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38103310
Sure, but it also shows the dish in the totally wrong location. So it doesn't seem like an especially trustworthy source of information to begin with.
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Hi HN, I'm one of the authors of River along with Brandur. We've been working on this library for a few months and thought it was about time we get it out into the world.

Transactional job queues have been a recurring theme throughout my career as a backend and distributed systems engineer at Heroku, Opendoor, and Mux. Despite the problems with non-transactional queues being well understood I keep encountering these same problems. I wrote a bit about them here in our docs: https://riverqueue.com/docs/transactional-enqueueing

Ultimately I want to help engineers be able to focus their time on building a reliable product, not chasing down distributed systems edge cases. I think most people underestimate just how far you can get with this model—most systems will never outgrow the scaling constraints and the rest are generally better off not worrying about these problems until they truly need to.

Please check out the website and docs for more info. We have a lot more coming but first we want to iron out the API design with the community and get some feedback on what features people are most excited for. https://riverqueue.com/
Yes, you are right. Actually, not even Sam Altman is showing on Microsoft corporate directory per the Verge.

But I heard it usually take 5~ days to show there anyway.
Understanding the particular meaning of each balance-sheet category is hardly pedantry at the level of business management. It's like knowing what the controls do when you're driving a car.

Profit is money that ends up in the bank to be used later. Compensation is what gets spent on yachts. Anything spent on hospital supplies is an expense. This stuff matters.
I think we need to be able to accept apologies when someone makes them... otherwise we are all doomed.
> Non-profits can't funnel profits directly back to owners, the way other corporations can (such as when dividends are distributed). But they still make profits.

Then where do these profits go?
The schools were reformed to death, it seems almost intentional if you take a step back and observe; all the good teachers have likely left by now.
My deep fryer has a magnetic connection for the power cord. That's high voltage and wattage, and works just fine.
> The good parts of this is that it has a purpose (which is NOT profits)

I don't see how the purpose is not profit. Profit is simply a unit of measure, one that measures the progress in delivering useful value to society. Which is exactly what the statement purports is the function of said formulation. Profit would merely measure the successfulness of a pursuit.
The firing was definitely handled poorly and the communications around it were a failure, but it seems like the organizational structure was doing what it was designed to do.

Is this the end of non-profit/profit-capped AI development? Would anyone else attempt this model again?
Elon left the board because they wouldn't let him be the CEO. That's it.
Sure: https://www.ory.sh/kratos/
Thanks for all the support Bryan and team!
I was reading the title thinking 'What's wrong with domain-driven design?'
Lets talk definitions. Here was mine:

Knowing what you are doing: accurate mental model

The author here is talking about mindset and confidence - not "understanding" persay. Source:

> For me, it was extremely humbling to work together with far more competent engineers at Apple.

Having a mindset that "some people are way more competent than me" is talking about humility and growth mindsets - different concept than mental models. I fully agree with the author here - a growth mindset is useful! But that's a different thing from saying that some people actually have accurate mental models of the important complex systems underpinning the world.
Postgres based job queues work fine if you have say 10K transaction per second and jobs on average do not take significant time to complete (things will run fine on fairly modest instance). They also give guarantees that traditional job queues do not.
> how would anyone be absolutely certain that they'd make more with Sam Altman in charge?

Why do you think absolute certainty is required here? It seems to me that "more probable than not" is perfectly adequate to explain the data.
There’s an implicit assumption in your argument that you’re going to directly ask for a crime to be committed. Why are you assuming that? You’ll go to a contractor and say “we want Reddit data.” Anyone with even mild technical competence can figure out how to get it.
This is neat. It is more obvious than ever that everyone should be building in redundancy, testing across models.
Except MSFT does have access to the IP, and MSFT has access to an enormous trove of their own data across their office suite, Bing, etc. It could be a running start rather than a cold start. A fork of OpenAI inside an unapologetic for profit entity, without the shackles of the weird board structure.
Apple plans to equip MacBooks with in-house cellular modems
You're assuming everyone is using the same standard library as you. Not every library uses even the same indivisible unit to tell time.
Their contract with OpenAI gives them unlimited access to the data sets, the tooling (which is all on Azure and was built out with the help of Azure engineers), the models and their weights, and basically everything around it.
It's like the "Open" in OpenAi was always an open and obvious lie and everybody except the nonprofit oriented folks on the board knew that. Everybody but them is here to make money and only used the nonprofit as a temporary vehicle for credibility and investment that has just been shed like a cicada shell.
I've heard that at one time, a merchant in (say) England might refuse a pound note from (say) Scotland, as they are technically separate countries.

Is that still the case?
> It must have been something about late 70s / early 80s USA that made everyone feel like we were on the verge of corporate takeover of government.

Yes and no. At the time, Cyberpunk was a fringe movement by some rebel authors. Hence the "punk". Until then, mainstream science fiction was very much obsessed with nice utopias that used technology and communication for the benefit of society in far distant futures. Cyberpunk tore it all down and pointed at the possible nightmare of a not so distant future where all pervading technology leaves you cluelessly behind, crushed under the foot of megacorporate feudalism.
Ballmer honestly wasn't that bad. He gave executive backing to Azure and the larger Infra push in general at MSFT.

Search and Business Tools were misses, but they more than made up for it with Cloud, Infra, and Security.

Also, Nadella was Ballmer's pick.
Seems like the board just didn't explain any of this to the staff at all. So of course they are going to take the side that could signal business as usual instead of siding with the people trying to destroy the hottest tech company on the planet (and their jobs/comps) for no apparent reason. If the board said anything at all, the ratio of staff threatening to quit probably won't be this lopsided.
I really hope that humans give up on being greedy and trying to collect vast amounts of wealth and start to be nice to each other.

Of course I don't expect any of the above to happen because the world has enough greedy assholes around to make it a miserable place.
I don't know who is who in this fight. But AI, while having some upsides to research and personal assistants, will not only massively upend a number of industries with millions of workers in the US alone, it will change how society perceives art and truth. We at HN can "see" that from here, but it's going to get real in a short while.

Privacy is out the window, because these models and technologies will be scraping the entire internet, and governments/big tech will be able to scrape it all and correlate language patterns across identities to associate your different online egos.

The Internet that could be both anonymous and engaging is going to die. You won't be able to trust the entity at the other end of a discussion forum is human or not. This is a sad end of an era for the Internet, worse than the big-tech conglomeration of the 2010s.

The ability to trust news and videos will be even more difficult. I have a friend who talks about how Tiktok is the "real source of truth" because big media is just controlled by megacorps and in bed with the government. So now a bunch of seemingly authentic people will be able to post random bullshit on Tiktok/Instagram with convincing audio/video evidence that is totally fake. A lie gets around the world before the truth gets its shoes on.

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So, I wonder which side of this war is more aware and concerned about these impacts?
“Funneled money to the startup” or “fundraised for the startup?”

There’s a world of difference between those two things.
Some insurance companies are a bit worse than death panels.

https://www.propublica.org/article/cigna-pxdx-medical-health...

> Internal documents and former company executives reveal how Cigna doctors reject patients’ claims without opening their files. “We literally click and submit,” one former company doctor said. <rubber stamping computer algorithm's initial approval or denials>

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-to-appeal-insurance-d...

> It’s especially complicated in oncology, said Dr. Barbara McAneny, a former president of the American Medical Association who runs a 6,000-patient oncology practice in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

> McAneny told me she spends $350,000 a year on a designated team of denial fighters whose sole job is to request prior authorization for cancer care — an average 67 requests per day — and then appeal the denials.

> For starters, she said bluntly, “we know everything is going to get denied.” It’s almost a given, she said, that the insurer will lose the first batch of records. “We often have to send records two or three times before they finally admit they actually received them. … They play all of these kinds of delaying games.”

> Her theory is that insurance companies save money by delaying spending as long as possible, especially if the patient or the doctor gives up on the appeal, or the patient’s condition rapidly declines in the absence of treatment.

> For an insurance company, she said, “you know, death is cheaper than chemotherapy.”
> These people never joined OpenAI to "advance sciences and arts" or to "change the world". They joined OpenAI to earn money

Getting Cochrane vibes from Star Trek there.

> COCHRANE: You wanna know what my vision is? ...Dollar signs! Money! I didn't build this ship to usher in a new era for humanity. You think I wanna go to the stars? I don't even like to fly. I take trains. I built this ship so that I could retire to some tropical island filled with ...naked women. That's Zefram Cochrane. That's his vision. This other guy you keep talking about. This historical figure. I never met him. I can't imagine I ever will.

I wonder how history will view Sam Altman
it's amazing to me that there are countries when people can legally film random people walking in the street in front of their house and store that data without any possible legal repercussions.
There was never that time.

1. At first it was “works best with Netscape Navigator”

2. Then it was the same with IE

3. Now it’s Chrome.
OPs point, I think, is that wasting the user's time is part of the point of the code. This specific code seems partially meant as a punishment of the user for using an adblocker.
Nah, it's just a function of "role". The leaders section is principally business people whereas the thinkers section is principally academics and practitioners.
There is some more context here: https://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/why-im-leaving-elm/#forka...

> Threatening a person with exclusion from a community for attempting to patch the source code is quite antithetical to the spirit of Open Source, as far as I can see.
I'm sure there are a great many more-objectionable people that earn great loads from Uncle Sam. Not to mention people who get elected.
Oban is fantastic and has been a huge source of inspiration for us, showing what is possible in this space. In fact I think during my time at Distru we were one of Parker's first customers with Oban Web / Pro :)

We've also had a lot of experience with with other libraries like Que ( https://github.com/que-rb/que ) and Sidekiq (https://sidekiq.org/) which have certainly influenced us over the years.
The masses aren't logical they follow trends until the trends get big enough that it's unwise to not follow.

It started off as a small trend to sign that letter. Past critical mass if you are not signing that letter, you are an enemy.

Also my pronouns are she and her even though I was born with a penis. You must address me with these pronouns. Just putting this random statement here to keep you informed lest you accidentally go against the trend.
> Why not

The ratio doesn't live in vaccuum. Setting the ratio means nothing if nobody is willing to step up and sell dollars at that price. And for that they need dollars to sell. The ratio is not some random number picked out of a hat.
The space combat in Star Wars was explicitly designed to be "spitfires in space". It was all designed from WW2 footage. Working it forwards from the physics doesn't get you there. They were going for a specific dramatic effect so everything that justifies the final look and feel gets retconned into place.
This shit needs to die. I'll try to remember to ignore this blog in the future.
This comment hurts me to my very core, I actually screamed when I read it. I'm in one of the most artistically productive periods of my life right now. I've been doing multiple notebook pages of gouache and india ink a day. I also have a homebuilt plotter that I've written an entire suite of software for. I've been doing 3D graphics and photomanipulation, I've been dabbling in video editing.

AND I've been pushing what can be done with Stable Diffusion, and it's absolutely a tool to create art. The idea that "Typing in a prompt and fiddling with some things back and forth" is all there is to AI art is so fucking absurd. This is the "meme" I'm talking about. There SO much more to AI art from an artistic control perspective than the prompt, and not only that, there's so much we haven't even fucking invented yet which is clear from the rate of progress in the field. These reductive "it's not real art" are even worse than the "theft" moralizing. It's akin to saying photography isn't art because you just click a button.

> I don't create art to produce pretty pictures as fast as possible.

I create art because I like to make art, sometimes that means laboring over the placement of every line. Sometimes I need three hundred frames and there's only me and my GPU against the world. AI opens up possibilities that were completely unreachable before, just like everything else I'm able to do artistically with my computer.
> Scammers will descend on Argentina and loot the entire economy.

Too late. That already happened a long time ago.

I remember an Argentinian friend telling me of a time when she and her coworkers would get paid and they'd all immediately leave work to spend their money before the prices went up. Waiting until the end of the day meant taking a significant haircut.
“I don't believe we shall ever have a good money again before we take the thing out of the hands of government, that is, we can't take them violently out of the hands of government, all we can do is by some sly roundabout way introduce something that they can't stop.“ - Hayek
'rich people' don't get it because they're vaguely entitled to it.

they get it because the other party is afraid of the consequences if they don't get it.
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More here on forum: https://discuss.ocaml.org/t/the-ocaml-platform-roadmap-is-ad...
Can we just stop changing things up in the USB world for a while? USB-C causes me more headaches than the prior USB incarnations do, but changing these things is itself painful enough that I'd rather just put up with what we have now than change yet again.
> the rational response to concerns that banks may fail is to withdraw everything from them

An economist would correct you that the rational response to concerns that banks may fail is to withdraw everything from them while lying about it and telling everyone else not to do it.
> The Fact still nobody knows why they did it is part of the problem now though.

The fact that Altman and Brockman were hired so quickly by Microsoft gives a clue: it takes time to hire someone. For one thing, they need time to decide. These guys were hired by Microsoft between close-of-business on Friday and start-of-business on Monday.

My supposition is that this hiring was in the pipeline a few weeks ago. The board of OpenAI found out on Thursday, and went ballistic, understandably (lack of candidness). My guess is there's more shenanigans to uncover - I suspect that Altman gave Microsoft an offer they couldn't refuse, and that OpenAI was already screwed by Thursday. So realizing that OpenAI was done for, they figured "we might as well blow it all up".
> And they will probably deliver within 6m what OAI has now, and what spooked Ilya to launch this coup.

Do you realize how hard it is to make something like GPT4? I think all the non-AI people posting about this all over X/HN have this idea that if you move everyone over you just "remake the AI" as if this were a traditional API.

There is no way MS catches up to OAI in a short period of time. During that time the rest of the market will be pressing the accelerator as hard as possible.

I think MS is in a really, really shit spot right now.
> Separately this is generally not a great idea economically. You do kill inflation in Argentina (replaced with American inflation but that is extremely low and stable by Argentine standards). But you have no control over your monetary policy or your exchange rates. If your economy is export driven to (e.g.) China, you now have to worry about the dollar-yuan rate, which is not under your control.

"generally not a great idea economically" is true, but this specific case is one of the few where it could be a fantastic idea.

Control over one's currency > pegging to or using USD >>>> historic Argentinian monetary policy. If (1) is impossible, then (2) would represent monumental improvement over the status quo.