skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think the current level of caution in LLMs is pretty silly: while there are a few things I really don't want LLMs doing (telling people how to make pandemics is a big one) I don't think keeping people from learning how to
hotwire a car (where the first google result is https://www.wikihow.com/Hotwire-a-Car) is worth the collateral censorship. One thing that has me a bit nervous about current approaches to "AI safety" is that they've mostly focused on small things like "not offending people" instead of "not making it easy to kill everyone".

(Possibly, though, this is worth it on balance as a kind of practice? If they can't even keep their models from telling you how to hotwire a car when you ask for a bedtime story like your car-hotwiring grandma used to tell, then they probably also can't keep it from disclosing actual information hazards.)
Better than chrome, like always. Customizable and better at ram consumption.

It's always good to have a backup besides chrome/Firefox, in case Mozilla decides to commit yet another absurd move due to weird political trends.
They need to comply with any profit-sharing or loan repayments, but funders can't have any control. The only person who would have input into whether or not the board is properly fulfilling its non-profit mission would be the Delaware attorney general.
It's not about what the board can or can not do. It's about whether they can make it stick. I'm thinking they can't but plenty of clever people here on HN think they can. Time will tell.
UBOL on Manifest V3 still blocks 99% of ads or more. Advanced functionality will be lost but I'm not sure how many people will notice.
A trajectory topic, I find Quora's quality deteriorate over the years. What's bizarre is that the Chinese competitor of Quora, Zhihu, is way better than Quora. Case in point, search "estimate parameter size of transformer model" or a simpler version "parameter size transformer" yield nothing relevant on Quora, yet on Zhihu, we got something like this: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/624740065. One does not have to know Chinese to see the difference in quality and information density.
Is there a demographic skew to consider? There are billions online, but the most desirable eyeballs on ads are Western and young. I would guess that population uses ad-blockers at a much higher rate than the background population, but I won't venture to guess how much higher.
I've fooled with it, but didn't see any draw. I removed it from my initial bloatware purge of my Pixel, including Google's launcher.

At a glance,

Things that leave a bad taste in my mouth:

- Genres > Metal > "Numb" by Linkin Park

- New Releases isn't organized by genre, which means you breathe through a straw, and hope Google brings a release to your attention.

- The "feed" New Releases which is apparently robo-tailored includes a Slowdive album from 1996, and a bunch of corporate stuff I'll likely never be in the mood for.

- no acknowledgement of labels, collectives, or studios. all very real constructs in current music.

- presumably live music recs are out even though those were never accurate to begin with

- there wasn't any on boarding, i guess im just to assume google knows who i am. went through onboarding, it's just there to slurp up artist relations and obtain feedback on recent trends it's inefficient and irritating out of touch

I like epitaph.
> I doubt Microsoft will match the hypothetical 90B valuation for their profit share units, otherwise they would’ve left already (Microsoft has agreed to match)

If Microsoft won't, Google or Meta will.
All the 13B files seems to be quantized.
Yes and: No long term shortage with occasional short term crunches. Mostly due to lag time bringing new supplies online.

Like with every commodity market.
Do you have any references to support this? What you and the person you responded to said both seem reasonable to some extent, but without evidence It's not clear to what extent they are true.

Relatedly, does "stress" have the same meaning in what you say and others are saying? It seems reasonable (though I have no evidence or related expertise) that the optimal level of stress is non-zero (for some definition of stress, to the extent that it can be quantified). Why wouldn't the optimal level of stress promote more pro-social, creative, cooprerative, etc. behaviour than sub-optimal stress levels?
I've seen this but producing Python scripts that you run in Blender, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x60zHw_z4NM (but I saw something marginally more impressive, not sure where though!)
"Decentralization of the real world" is a euphemism for the collapse of global diplomacy and modern Westphalian nations (territorialism, violent conflict), the disolution of their mature institutions (law, medicine, education, travel protections, etc) and the lifestyles they enable.

Now, we might be headed that way and the far side of the transition might be heavenly (for some), but it's probably wise to keep in mind that the historical "pendulum swings" between centralization and decentralization don't tend to go smoothly. Too much reliance on the euphemism makes it easy to forget.
Even when I literally ask it for code it will often not give me code and will give me a high level overview or pseudocode until I ask it again for actual code.

It's pretty funny that my second message is often "that doesn't look like any programming language I recognize. I tried running it in Python and got lots of errors".

"My apologies, that message was an explanation of how to solve your problem, not code. I'll provide a concrete example in Python."
Members of congress are a small subset of government officials.

That they get away with corrupt behavior doesn't mean that people in the civil service should have to be anxious about trivial things. If a government employee can be influenced by something as minor as a pen or lunch, they are in the wrong line of work.
If the board resigns that may be good for the company, but it may not be good for those on the board. If, on the other hand, the board prevails OpenAI may still turn out to be fine regardless.

What do the board members have to loose by holding their ground?
"user pays" prevents the benefit from occurring.

For example in New Zealand (public healthcare) there used to be a $5 copay for prescribed medication (by government healthcare doctors). There is now no copay ($0) because 3% of people would not get the medicine because of cost. This was particularly true for low-income families, Māori, Pacific peoples, and disabled New Zealanders. That said, our conservative party wants to bring the fees back: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/budget-2023-5-prescription-fee...

If people don't pay a small amount to get something important like medicine, they perhaps wouldn't pay even a a token $20 or 50% for something luxury/"unnecessary" like easier access to the internet.
My guess, and it is just a guess, is that there's some deep and fundamental position that the board members hold to, which Sam cannot describe well enough to pass the Ideological Turing Test[0], and this failure was perceived as being deliberately dishonest.

Happens a lot. I know some on the very extreme outskirts of the left wing who look at the "splitters!" scene in Life of Brian and see themselves; I've seen it in arguments over programming language features; there's plenty of religious disputes that look like this from the outside; most of the Brexit arguments painted everyone who didn't agree with the speaker as being part of Team Other and merely an attempt to undermine Team Us; and so on.

People can get very seriously angry about things that seem totally pointless from the outside.

[0] https://www.lesswrong.com/tag/ideological-turing-tests
I am guessing it will be similar to inpainting in normal stable diffusion, which is easy when using the workflow feature InvokeAI ui.
It's not visual.
Yeah, got a 24GB 4090, try to reduce the number of frames decoded to something like 4 or 8. Although, keep in mind it caps the 24Gb and goes to RAM (with the latest nvidia drivers).
Aye, wasn't MS's main offer Azure credits?

The compute resources that are required are massive, and if not MS then you're getting into bed with some other Big Corp, i.e. Amazon, Oracle, IBM, Google, etc.
Well, at least he's still there. Wonder if they have a successor lined up already and whether or not that successor has already offered to resign.

It is all reminiscent of the Monty Python Judean people's front scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUHk2RSMCS8

Though, arguably they showed more discipline.
My dog told me he's replacing Emmett as the next CEO of OpenAI.
They offered him a job leading his own unit within MSFT, so that doesn't make sense
Even if they wanted to sue, the employees would have to make some decision, forcing the issue regardless so I doubt it matters.
> Also don't understand why would anyone buy a Cloud subscription for a MATTRESS.

Coincidentally enough, I bought a new mattress last weekend. When I was shopping for it, fully 1/3rd of the ones they had included bluetooth & app control.

It truly blew my mind. I can't even begin to wrap my mind around the idea that people find these things desirable in a freaking mattress of all things.

I didn't notice if any were cloud-connected (I wasn't exactly looking closely at those mattresses), but if I had seen that, I'm pretty sure my head would have just exploded on the spot.
On Friday their comments included a bunch of details that were not made public anywhere else at the time.

If they don't get Altman back the company is toast and they were about to get an option to sell their shares in a new funding round so it would be dumb for them to not sign it.
No I think they hired them because they can do the job the agreed to pay them. I don’t think these people are irreplaceable, that would be silly. That’s what Sam Altman wants you to think.
It's one of the most innovative and impactful companies in a long time. I'm sure they'll be able to run gpt4, but good luck delivering gpt 5 (or 6 depending on how far along 5 is) when you lost entire teams that dreamt up and built previous iterations.
Where do you think they get their BTC to fund the ETFs?
I see the target market is middle/high school kids. Any tips for younger kids?

I've been trying to get my daughter (8) to enjoy coding more. She does code.org and Scratch a bit, but we've been experimenting with Python/PyGame. She really likes drawing and games, but it's pretty difficult to teach.
Imagine you’re a guy with many billions of dollars. Would you pay a few of them in order to not be an international fugitive for the rest of your life?
The best we can hope that can happen from this is that The Wire reboots with product placements for Chromebooks. Otherwise expect to find a bunch of very cheap Chromebooks on Craigslist
For example https://github.com/nocode-js/sequential-workflow-designer is designed in this way, that you program some logic by setting predefined actions in a proper order. You program at the high level.
>>they were just turned off by the ... vibes ...

So they just need to hire some Gen Z [1], not to actually make AI technology but to make "good vibes"

[1] https://nypost.com/2023/11/18/lifestyle/gen-z-workers-say-th...

>>I think you can assume that there's a large pool of talent

Why would we assume that? Every company in the US currently is complaining endlessly about the lack of talent, in IT especially I see posts from hiring managers being unable to find tech talent, and the fact that several companies are making very aggressive plays at getting OpenAI worker right now tells me there is not infact a "large pool of talent" that will just back fill all of these roles.
The state is not a source of power, it is a holder of it. Plenty of governments have fallen because they ran out of resources, and any governments that run out of resources will die. The U.S. government has much, much more money than Bill Gates, but i am sure he could find a way to run a small prison, and escape jail time if needed.

The state only has the right to do something because it says it does. It can only say it does because it can enforce it in it's terrority. It can only enforce in its territory because it has people who will do said enforcement (or robots hypothetically). The people will only enforce because the government sacrifices some of its resources to them (or sacrifices resources to build bots). Even slaves need food, and people treated well enough to control them. Power doesn't exist with resources, the very measure of a state is the amount of resources it controls.

Money is for resources.

I am not arguing that anyone currently has the resources of a nation-state, it's hard to do when a state can pool a few thousand square miles of peoples money to it. I am arguing it money that makes a state powerful.
It's my daily driver, but it's energy inefficient on my Macbook Pro compared to Safari.
Some beautiful assembly code in there.
Also the level of fault tolerance... if your pixels are a bit blurry, chances are no one notices at a high enough resolution. If your json is a bit blurry you have problems.
Kind of a stretch to equate these two things.

But honestly it comes down to this: in one you have an option to disable stuff you dont like, in the other you hope there will an option. You can guess which is which.
The next 10 startups in Intel's European deep tech accelerator
I think it’s wierd the dismissive way many folks in this thread speak about it all.

“Sam isn’t important. Employees are weirdos. The board is just fine. Everyone calm down.”

That’s more wierd than anything happening on Twitter.
Binance is also accused of commingling funds.
If chrome limits ad blockers and provides some way to unambiguously determine whether or not you’re chrome that cannot be spoofed, i wonder if sites will explicitly start blocking Firefox and other browsers.
Cryptocurrencies are cryptocurrencies. Binance is an exchange, essentially a bank in disguise. They are not even in the same category.
First off, you are too late for any comment about the text to hold any water. 2008 Heller and 2010 McDonald settled that. It is an individuals right to keep and bear, not collective, never was. One term that came from Heller was “dangerous and unusual”, make note of the and.

Next, well regulated never meant lots of regulations. It meant well trained and in good working order. 1800s Oxford dictionary.
Now compare to fossil fuels.
"Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
I doubt it. The ppus at a 90 billion valuation puts even late employees in the 7 figure territory.

They can afford it, but ultimately the brand is what’s valuable. The only reason both Google and meta have not released something like gpt4 is because it’s not profitable and paying hundreds of millions for dozens of employees or billions for everyone isn’t really going to be worth it.

Ironically, it would be better to let OpenAI die and let all of these people start their own things, and if one of them creates agi then pay that person the 90 billion.
For web browsing, these solutions necessarily cannot be as sophisticated as software running in the browser. They're also much less convenient to install and use.

DNS filters and firewall rules are crude tools by comparison but you can't install uBO on random apps or your TV.
> independent of the rest of society

That's the seed of evil: the idea of isolated existence. The strong just pull it out. The weak passively watch how it grows and wait until it's rotten down in envy, experiencing all sorts of sufferings on the way there.
OpenAI is incorporated in Delaware, so it would be up to the Delaware attorney general to make any direction as to the non-profit purpose, which she has thus far ignored.
Interesting, given that Google and Facebook [2], at least, eventually moved to have their repositories offered via Mercurial interface, instead of git.

I also would expect that Github eventually will also offer mercurial repos.

p.s. And let's not talk about abomination that is GitLFS (starting from the fact that it requires separate subcommand).

[2] https://engineering.fb.com/2014/01/07/core-infra/scaling-mer...
Right "may as well do it myself" - I think this is the natural limit these things will reach. Just my opinion.
I am not going to bet against that.
There are only two possible outcomes and neither has Emmet as a CEO.

1, Sam comes back and thus obviously Emmet leaves.

2, Sam does not come back and OAI just dissolves into being a series of drawn out investor lawsuits, something Emmet probably don't want to get involved in.
"oooooooo, the plot thickens"

But really, it's hard to take something like this seriously. It may be 100% legitimate, but most of the claims are nebulous at best. The sort of claims that unless you're intimately involved with day-to-day of the company, you're not going to understand. While us randoms on the internet are not the target audience, the Board is not involved in the day-to-day either. So the only logical target could be the current employees. Whom either don't know about these situations...or turned a blind eye to it.

By shining a light on what has (reportedly) happened again, what is accomplished? Those that didn't know still don't know for sure. Those whom ignored it the first time around are... what? Going to change sides? So they can be the one of the 15 people remaining at the company after everyone else defects to Microsoft?

The timing is also perplexing. If things were really this terrible, why wait until after Sam et al has been fired/left to make demands for an investigation? Realistically, these accusations, if true, are useless. The current employee base has already signed away that they are going to leave OpenAI if the Board doesn't backdown and undo everything they've already done. If the BOD were to take this seriously and wait for the results of an investigation, which would take months... the entire employee base would already be gone.

Maybe it's an attempt to put a hit out on Sam & Crew at Microsoft. But MS really wants that AI juice. Some anonymous hearsay on the internet is not going to change their mind. A lot of these accusations can also be filed under "start-up growing pains". So MS isn't going to do anything about this.

Net-Net, if these claims are true or false. It changes nothing for no one. The boulder of doom is already rolling towards OpenAI and the BOD.
[zen master to himself]: this must be one helluva long movie.
more backstory - https://blog.zarfhome.com/2023/11/infocom-interpreters
Glad to see this top comment. I saw the headline and thought it would be more handwringing about climate change, a la "Look! Even northern Europe needs AC these days."
Dude, you’re all over this thread and have such a strange bias against Sam and the current employees. Can I ask, out of genuine curiosity, why you find the board to be OK in this situation and why you find Sam / the employees behind him so off-putting?
ok fine I'll entertain you... What's sawcon?
It’s not SV, the entire West Coast from Vancouver to San Diego is like this now.
I was no "real" soldier but due to some weird circumstances I fought in a war. The difficult part of returning home is everything is so low stakes, the freedom to ride around on a Hilux living by your wits and a rifle turns into a world where you can easily survive flipping burgers and you have a toddler screaming at you because you selected the wrong color cup and the HOA has a meltdown because they decided the wrong species of plant is growing on your yard. Boring.

Sometimes you dream of the war because life is so simple and the goal is obvious, and every decision seems impactful to your survival.
Yes I have. I’ve even added features to legacy software and have made that a part of my mentoring to engineers to not reinvent the wheel and be good at reading and understanding code. I don’t think it’s a loss because the company has chosen to invest in that software. I include that time as onboarding for a project.
I was already working my way off of chrome but without a suitable adblocking extension I'm going to move to whatever I have to. I've been using firefox off and on and it seems great and I see someone in the comments recommending Librewolf. Going to have to check that out.

I have been planning for a while to setup a pihole but hadn't yet bothered because I have sufficient ad blockers but definitely going to be doing that now as well.

Well done Google, you succeeded in making at least one person up their adblocking game.
Yes and it is also a borderline thing to me. Amazon Basics does the same thing and it's pretty messed up that you can put a product in the same marketplace you control and run out the competition.

These walled gardens need to be opened up.
The clarification about stripe only being MoR in some cases (connect) is a time saver for me.

It’s good to know paddle is that comprehensive to implement. I think there were a few more providers I was looking at for MoR, I can share them if I locate them.

Thanks for taking the time to share it.
> Most of the Bay Area is safer from crime than 90% of the country

That's pretty hilarious.

In the 48 hours I was there, I had a homeless exposed his dong to me, another offered to sell me cocaine, then while I was eating at a nice Thai Restaurant, a lady in her underwear smashed the front window of the restaurant with a fire extinguisher.

Literally none of these things have ever happened to me anywhere else in the world in 39 years, except for the 48 hours I was in the Bay Area. Now please tell me about Selection Bias next.
New talent will consider any place that pays 300k base :)
People figuring out how to train and scale newer architectures (like transfomers) effectively, to be wildly larger than ever before.

Take AlexNet - the major "oh shit" moment in image classification.

It had an absolutely mind-blowing number of parameters at a whopping 62 million.

Holy shit, what a large network, right?

Absolutely unprecedented.

Now, for language models, anything under 1B parameters is a toy that barely works.

Stable diffusion has around 1B or so - or the early models did, I'm sure they're larger now.

A whole lot of smart people had to do a bunch of cool stuff to be able to keep networks working at all at that size.

Many, many times over the years, people have tried to make larger networks, which fail to converge (read: learn to do something useful) in all sorts of crazy ways.

At this size, it's also expensive to train these things from scratch, and takes a shit-ton of data, so research/discovery of new things is slow and difficult.

But, we kind of climbed over a cliff, and now things are absolutely taking off in all the fields around this kind of stuff.

Take a look at XTTSv2 for example, a leading open source text-to-speech model. It uses multiple models in its architecture, but one of them is GPT.

There are a few key models that are still being used in a bunch of different modalities like CLIP, U-Net, GPT, etc. or similar variants. When they were released / made available, people jumped on them and started experimenting.
> Considering Ilya regrets his decision, implying this wasn't an e/acc vs safety debate

Does it?

If it was exactly that but he misjudged the external response and resulting consequences, that would also be a reason for regret.
I'll click on anything that says "6502," actually. As a former Commodore 64 owner and current Apple II emulation enthusiast, mentions of that little CPU are like Reese's Pieces to E.T.
I think the danger in both scenarios is the fact that this data is available for abuse in the first place. It doesn't have to be. You're opening yourself up to the potential that unrelated bad things might happen in return for personalized ads.

Note, this isn't illegal or (in my opinion) even unethical, it just makes me and many others uncomfortable. If that's a tradeoff happy with, then more power to ya!