skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
If we're going full-on moustache twirling evil here, why would they use _your_ wifi?

Of course they know which networks are yours and you control them and might monitor them.

Your neighbour doesn't care about your data, nor the Starbucks you drive past to get to work. They could make the system connect to one of those and send its Secret Data Exfiltration Package using them.

Samsung has already done this with their TVs. If you don't connect it to a wifi,
iIt'll just find an open one and connect so it can load ads.
Seeing as it was developed in the 1950s, it likely never saw combat.
Maybe we can get off our but(t)s and start restoring wetlands like our lives depend upon it.

(Ah, hark, I hear crickets chirping.)
Well said! There is no wrong being in lizard then, isn't there?
Because he claimed to have it and can expect to be told to show it. Because it is rather easy to gather this type of proof from the logs produced by X' servers. This combination - the claim to have the proof and the fact that it is easy to produce it - makes it unlikely that his claim of being able to prove his case is false.
That’s also not the job of a board
I just think it's vital to not even mention the two in the same sentence. You seem to agree with me, in one respect, for you cite how you wish to focus on control. I'm all for that.

But each of these two controlling aspects of our lives, are different entities, with different ways to address, rebuke, curtail, and prevent that control. And the control they each exert is unique. This is why I replied, for even though you stated you didn't want to focus on the dichotomy, you brought it up, and waved it away, stating it was not relevant for this discussion.

But it is. It is, because each of these entities must be fought in unique ways.

I think we mostly agree here on the large points. It's just nuance we're debating.
I'm confused - the article title says 'explanations' but the articles seems to only talk about two 'examples'. Those are fundamentally different.
laissez-faire if you like
Ssshhhh! You just scared away a 200+ wpm person from adding on to this interesting conversation.
You're not wrong. AI safety originally meant the doomsday variant and has sort of morphed into the brand safety variant. My understanding was that safety research was treating both as the same problem, or at least that they believed brand safety was a worthwhile subset of the doomsday problem to attack.
> It's actually about what could kill Haskell, not what could kill Rust?

Here is the articles title: "What killed Haskell, could kill Rust, too"

So no, it's not about what could kill Haskell. In 2022, ~0.3% of all code pushed to github was Haskell. To put that number into perspective: vimscript was ~0.25%
As the article says, this is basically an RDP client, along with cloud PCs presumably hosted in Azure, so yes.
It's always cost me around $40 to have an Android battery replaced at a "We repair phones" sort of place. That includes the cost of the battery.
> Sustkever is said to have offered two explanations he purportedly received from the board, according to one of the people familiar. One explanation was that Altman was said to have given two people at OpenAI the same project. The other was that Altman allegedly gave two board members different opinions about a member of personnel. An OpenAI spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment. These explanations didn't make sense to employees and were not received well, one of the people familiar said.

Yeah well, you don't say. It's beyond weird that the board can't come up with a reason why Sam Altman was fired so abruptly.

One explanation would be a showdown. At some point in the week Sam and the board had an argument, and Sam said something to the effect of "fuck you, I'm the CEO and there's nothing you can do about it", to which the board replied "well, we'll just see about that".

The argument doesn't need to be major or touch fundamental values or policies; it can be a simple test of who's in charge.

But now the board made a fool of themselves. It seems they lost that round.
I could be remembering wrong, but didn't later versions of stuffit compress to a .sit file that had no resource fork, so it would stay fully-intact on any filesystem? I may be imagining that, but I remember hitting a certain version where "copying to Windows" would no longer ruin my .sit files... haha
I’m staring at this POS fibergateway router modem with ISP locked down settings with permanent open public Wi-Fi access to ISP subscribers and fixed DNS IPs, who knows what else they can do remotely…
This is literally just a pretty RDP client that connects to a cloud VM running full-blown Windows, so yes, you can do whatever you want in Excel.
The scooter is just a light, air-droppable vehicle for schlepping the gun around the battlefield to a location where it can be set up and ideally dug in. It's no different than moving a light artillery-piece with a jeep, a truck, a tractor, or a mule (except that a mule is going to object rather vehemently to being booted out of a plane).
I was once peremptorily retaliated against for just being in the room with a director of what was a major cell phone manufacturer who muted a call periodically to make racist/non-native English speaking comments about remote new hires. Although I failed to say something and should've, my badge was deactivated the next day without a single word. There was a good deal of obnoxious arrogance at that particular shop, so it wasn't much of a loss.
Here are Usenet comments from the the 1994 comp.mail.mime thread "Q: why base64 ,not UUencode?"

1) https://www.usenetarchives.com/view.php?id=comp.mail.mime&mi...

> Some of the characters used by uuencode cannot be represented in some of the mail systems used to carry rfc 822 (and therefore MIME) mail messages. Using uuencode in these environments causes corruption of encoded data. The working group that developed MIME felt that reliability of the encoding scheme was more important that compatibility with uuencode.

In a followup (same link):

> "The only character translation problem I have encountered is that the back-quote (`) does not make it through all mailers and becomes a space ( )."

A followup from that at https://www.usenetarchives.com/view.php?id=comp.mail.mime&mi... says:

> The back-quote problem is only one of many. Several of the characters used by uuencode are not present in (for example) the EBCDIC character set. So a message transmitted over BITNET could get mangled -- especially for traffic between two different countries where they use different versions of EBCDIC, and therefore different translate tables between EBCDIC and ASCII. There are other character sets used by 822-based mail systems that impose similar restrictions, but EBCDIC is the most obvious one.

> We didn't use uuencode because several members of our working group had experience with cases where uuencoded files were garbaged in transit. It works fine for some people, but not for "everybody" (or even "nearly everybody").

> The "no standards for uuencode" wasn't really a problem. If we had wanted to use uuencode, we would have documented the format in the MIME RFC.

That last comment was from Keith Moore, "the author and co-author of several IETF RFCs related to the MIME and SMTP protocols for electronic mail, among others" says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Moore .
Only the desperate would take the job. Nat Friedman and Alex Wang have enough self-respect and are too clever to accept that offer from the board.
well, that's one of the things OpenAI is known for
> Hiring AI-skilled talent is a priority for 73% of employers—but among these, three out of four say they are unable to meet their AI talent needs.

> Employers expect their workers to earn up to 47% more in salaries if they upskill in AI.

> AI will become more integral to the way business is done, with 93% of businesses expecting they will be using AI solutions across their organizations in the next five years.

And here I am desperately trying to find this "AI" company because of all the time I invested learning "AI". No one wants to hire me despite having papers in "AI".
It’s trivial to trip up humans too.

“What do cows drink?” (Common human answer: Milk)

I don’t think the test of AGI should necessarily be an inability to trip it up with specifically crafted sentences, because we can definitely trip humans up with specifically crafted sentences.
In a way, yes.

I use Firefox as my daily driver and dev browser, and chrome at the end to test compatibility.

I switched from Chrome to Edge a few months after Edge went chromium based because I could see the Microsoft developers started fixing the paper-cut design of Chromium's dev tools.

But I switched back when Edge kept disregarding my settings and filling my homepage/new-tab-page with junk each update. Sometimes it starts itself up after a background update and I can see even more junky sidebars, and icons shoved into the browser and I'm glad I stopped using it.
Of course a lot of people are going to stop you.

Most, if not all, of the group of people we are talking about were born from rich parents who could afford them to study in the most prestigious universities of America and they were in their prime years when computers expanded everywhere during the 90´s/00’s and also when the economy was booming like never before in the human history.

Those people are now in positions of extreme power that never existed before that. In fact, they are all in power to decide if your future billion dollars company will live or die, and if they allow it to live, it will be under their control.

And if you somehow manage to fill through the cracks, you’ll ultimately be offered some big money to sell them your company well before you have the opportunity to become one of them.
Shareholder lawsuits happen all the time for much smaller issues.
authenticator apps +1
I've had some issues with the opensmtpd port when upgrading from 13 to 14 which is probably due to the openssl upgrade. Apart from that the upgrade process tends to be pretty simple the updater warns you of any potential problems. As with any upgrade take a backup first so you can restore to 13 if you need to.
I trust Ilya in his original decision, not in his retraction under intense pressure. Ilya has not changed his beliefs. Rather, he was unable to pay the price of those beliefs.

He will not even say the real reason that he, not the Board, fired Sam. If he has lost trust in Sam, he can no longer say so.

I also do not see why the board would endanger their already weak position by giving any courtesy notice to Microsoft, who has the best lawyers in the world and will move instantly.
> I'm not crazy enough to take this job without board support for commercializing our awesome models.

Sure, sure...

But some general state of mind around all that AI's is strange. So WE-MUST... The AGI !!1

Money, yeah, some, but for did we do the same with eg. cars ? Public hearings, regulations, push AI chips into everybody phones before it is even working or phone companies have their own AI systems ?

And just some strange feeling: is OpenAI roleplaing Silicon Valley movie ? Even names are similiar, in places :)
Yeah but then I’d have to put up with the telemetry, ads and other crap they’re distributing with Windows.
No limits or windows. Last winter with the Russian problem was definitely a tight moment for many Europeans with spot pricing. But it likely still turned out favourable vs. getting a fixed contract with the elevated rates, as the prices plummeted fast again in the spring. At points you do get free electricity (plus transfer and tax).

Major blackouts don't really happen, I haven't experienced any in my lifetime yet. I imagine state does have some political pressure to apply limits if something truly ruinous would happen.
I live near one of the rows of trees on that map, and I must say they are very pretty right now.

But one of Sydney's most famous jacarandas is missing from the map:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacaranda,_University_of_Sydne...
What about people who don't have a smartphone?
I would like to submit that the board has not been “consistently candid” in their communications. In some places that’s a fireable offense.
Cool Examples of Shadow Art (2016) [video]
There are 2 axes under discussion going back to the root of this thread: public/private and nonprofit/for-profit, and you seem to be missing that I'm mentioning a specific quadrant^w octant, after adding the cost axis that's uniquely American. There are not a lot of pricey nonprofit hospitals in Africa, for instance.
I agree, FDA has no place in a free market. In a free market, companies would be able to sell poison to their customers... BUT, if something happened to the customers, they (or their estate) would be able to seek damages through the justice system. The problem we have with regulations is that they deflect responsibility... Any company can say "Look, we adhered to all the regulations" and use that as the basis to avoid taking responsibility if it turns out that the regulations were not adequate. Then they can just play the victim and demand more regulations. If you remove the regulator and just let the company deal directly with the consumer and don't let the government interfere with the free market to promote specific producers over others, then it would work itself out. The company would know that they have no regulatory shield to hide behind and they'll be forced to consider long-term implications of their decisions or face severe consequences and backlash from consumers.
> that’s what they meant by not understanding how they process information internally.

There is no other "internal information processing" happening in an LLM than the process it was programmed to execute. Is there?

The code an LLM executes is not too complicated for humans to understand. After all it was written by humans. The outputs may be surprising but so it is with lottery. Why did I win the jackpot this week, when I didn't win anything in the last 10 years? Very counter-intuitive. I can't possibly understand that? Yes I can, it is just statistics and probability.
Too much work, and you have to pay. Why not just install it on local VM?
Well except tragedy of the commons right? If it’s all lizards and no flies everyone dies. This is why the human versions project to the workers that they are all in it together and blah blah blah.

I don’t know what to do with this.
If you're looking for consistency and logic in regulator rulings, I'm afraid you're going to be left wanting.
It can certainly bridge into harassment.
France had plenty of combat at the time but the other side rarely, if ever, had tanks.
For home use sure, libreoffice or Mac pages or even Google spreadsheet is adequate.

I do a bunch of financial modeling in excel and the custom formatting, formula construction and sheer number of formulas are useful — saves me from jumping to just writing a program. Honestly, writing a program would be easier for me, but the presentation would be a pain, especially losing the excel UX that lets someone else do “what if”.

Word has that same level of complexity or more, but it gets in the way. It’s easier to write a latex doc.
> In the Treaty of Versailles, which Germany was not allowed to participate in the negotiation of, they were forced to accept all guilt for the war, give up vast tracts of land, and then pay an a unpayable amount on top, which many even at the time argued was excessively myopic.

This repeats several depressingly common myths. For starters, germany was "forced to accept all guilt" (several other countries were considered "guilty" by those treaties) because they were guilty. While not the sole participant, they actively encouraged the starting of the war and then immediately took advantage of it by invading france.

After spending 4 years of brutal fighting literally just to make the germans go home, the people defending themselves were more than a bit mad.

As to the famous war debt, for one thing its size wasn't much larger, relatively speaking, to the debt germany had just imposed on france a generation previously after france lost a war in which they invaded germany. This kind of war reparations was extremely common, and while obviously burdensome, hardly an excuse to launch another global war of conquest.

Much like france and its war debt, germany could have easily paid what it owed without collapsing. One of the thing the nazis and friends deliberately did was cause hyperinflation in order to both decrease the debt and to encourage anger among the populace to hopefully cause them to "rebel" against the existing leadership and support the extremists in thr nazi party.

Even after hitler took power (as you point out, at best semi-democratically) germany's economy was no worse off than any of the other major powers going through the depression, but instead of doing public works like america did, hitler deliberately allocated an unsustainable amount of money into war production, money that obviously had zero return to the german people. A large part of the reason hitler started invading when he did was because they had basically run out of money and their choice was use their expensive army or sell it off in order to buy food and oil.
Right, but my understanding is that the nonprofit structure eliminates most (if not all) possible shareholder suits.
Oh wow, the Chrome web store is awful.

There's no links to the source code.
You're not supposed to.
You shouldn't trust corporate entities, you should trust the people that run them. The people in charge can always do what they want, at least for a while.
Intelligence is just optimization over recursive prediction function.

There is nothing special about human intelligence threshold.

It can be surpassed by many different models.
Interesting use of A/B testing
Thanks for this! It’s been bugging me for weeks
Business Analytics Techniques [video]
Business analytics involves the use of various techniques and tools to analyze data and extract valuable insights that can inform decision-making and improve business performance. Here are some key business analytics techniques:
Perhaps this montage offers a clue about the possible existence of Higher Dimensions in Physics...

...And then again, perhaps not! :-)

Related:

Professor Leonard Susskind - The World As Hologram:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgQ3NfyAG6c

3Blue1Brown - Visualizing quaternions (4d numbers) with stereographic projection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4EgbgTm0Bg

AdS/CFT correspondence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AdS/CFT_correspondence

Plato's Cave:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave
OpenAI is a non-profit with a for-profit subsidiary. The controlling board is at the non-profit and immune to shareholder concerns.

Investors in OpenAI-the-business were literally told they should think of it as a donation. There’s not much grounds for a shareholder lawsuit when you signed away everything to a non-profit.
This is a crazy way to operate, especially for a country that brands itself as the best for business.
I think the implication is that he could “talk to his friends”, more than doing things directly.
Yeah, lowering the money supply is a bonus, but more importantly a lower percent of the money supply will be in the form of current P minus current I.
reddit comments..
> In Canada, all crypto transactions are considered taxable events. Did you sell a couch on Facebook Marketplace using Bitcoin? Time to calculate your capital gain or loss from a vaguely worded set of guidelines.

Even if it were a real honest-to-god currency it would be the same though, right? That's how it works here in Japan at least - buy a couch in dollars, now you have to calculate capital gains against your average cost basis for dollars (which I guess includes every dollar you earned in your whole working life, if you lived in Canada before you moved here?)
Yeah, I'd at least like the choice of which one(s) to use, but more and more services are specifically requiring a mobile phone number, and requiring SMS 2FA, which is blatantly ridiculous (and I agree should be outlawed). Thanks for totally locking me out of my account while I'm overseas...
So there are 7 base64 encodings, one with “+ / =“, one with “- _ =“, one with “+,” and no “=“… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base64#Variants_summary_table
There are various photos online that claim to show it in the field in Algeria during their war of independence. Given that it was used by French paras who were deployed there during that time, I have no particular reason to doubt those captions.
I mean it's literally getting better every time. People can start complaining when progress has stagnated.
To me it just sounds like someone who was in a failed coup. Of course you'd apologize and try to stay in, specially if you're scared of progress of AI and you want to stop it from within. I don't see how he can remain there.
And how do you propose banning it? Should libc track function calls? Maybe when the linker links setenv we just print out the man page for setenv.
Why is this [FLAGGED], its a valid line of inquiry?

Edit: what would happen if you included [FLAGGED] as part of the title?
My favorite hypothesis (based on absolutely nothing but observing people use LLMs over the years):

* Current-gen AI is really good at tricking laypeople into believing it could be sentient

* "Next-gen" AI (which, theoretically, Ilya et al may have previewed if they've begun training GPT-5, etc) will be really good at tricking experts into believing it could be sentient

* Next-next-gen AI may as well be sentient for all intents and purposes (if it quacks like a duck)

(NB, to "trick" here ascribes a mechanical result from people using technology, not an intent from said technology)
You could get those little mini RSA token things that are just a battery-powered thing the size of a USB stick. I assume those are still around... haven't used one in years tho.
100% agree. I have a coding job and although co-pilot comes in handy for auto completing function calls and generating code that would be an obvious progression of what needs to be written, I would never let it generate swaths of code based on some specification or even let it implement a moderately complex method or function because, as I have experienced, what it spits out is absolute garbage.
Ya but that still ain't gonna tell them anything? Who uses "real" credentials anymore?

Also, why doesn't she just hire a lawyer to help her sign up ?
Where I live, the council/county, mail out to residents about group purchases of solar/batteries. Probably a way of helping without necessarily subsidising.
> not a subject that can be discussed

You seem to have interpreted this as a judgment, but it's not—it's an empirical observation: this topic is guaranteed not to get an intellectually curious discussion on a large internet forum like HN.

Actually "guaranteed" is too strong - no empirical observation is that certain. But the odds are so close to 100% as to make no difference.