skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The new tools weren't made for or by artists. They're labor alienation machines that extract value from our communities and remove nearly all creative agency from the process. It's not cool to just dismiss this as people refusing to learn a new tool when that tool is the product of one of the biggest acts of abuse directed towards creative labor in decades.
> Like how can one download so many files from a company network and no alarm is set off ?

Slowly, hidden among legitimate traffic, and indirectly. For example, most companies don't notice 100 kb/sec increases in DNS traffic, slight increases in web server image sizes, or changes to server MOTDs.
> This simple act, which only involved replacing old notes with new ones, in a currency that the Indian government controlled, led conservatively to tens of thousands of deaths, arrested economic growth in a fast growing country immediately, destroyed hundreds of thousands of businesses, and set the economy back conservatively by 5-10 years, although the significantly reduced growth in the subsequent years since (at least until the pandemic...

Yet Modi is still in office. Amazing.
New OpenAI CEO Has History of Unfiltered Posts, Microsoft Disses
I think the relationship between model size and training time isn't linear. So if you want a twice bigger model it'll take more resources to train it than two original models.
Actually, you're rephrasing the question - it was specifically about "control", not "alignment".

Even if we substitute "alignment" the problem is that the suggestion is still that Sam would have been "better protected" in some way. A 501(c)3 is just not supposed to function like that, and good corporate governance absolutely demands that the board be independent of the CEO and be aligned to the company goals not the CEO's goals.
Still... a list of 30 news stories containing 6 of the same story linked from different sites doesn't really feel necessary. Like we could have 1 story and still have all of the information we've got available to us but, for some reason, people keep upvoting the same story from a different site.

One major advantage to this would be that you don't have to read 6 threads worth of comments to find info and you don't have 6 "Top Comments" to parse through.

I don't see the purpose of it. You're saying "it doesn't seem outrageous" but the point is there's no purpose to having them all here when there can be one mega thread that keeps it all contained.
That’s not the case as long as they hold the state-of-the-art in the field. Which they do.
Three surprising benefits of sharding a MySQL database
His main day job is as a SWE doing program analysis, so I'm pretty sure he's got the credentials to talk about real-life scenarios.
We're going around in circles I think but to me it is evident that a somewhat competent board that intends to fire the CEO of the company they are supposed to be governing will have a handy set of items ready: a valid reason, minutes of the meeting where all of this was decided where they gravely discuss all of the evidence and reluctantly decide to have to fire the CEO (handkerchiefs are passed around at this point, a moment of silence is observed), the 'green light' from legal as to whether that reason constitutes sufficient grounds for the dismissal. Those are pre-requisites.

> Yes, and if they fail to do so in regards to the things they are legally obligated to care for, like the charitable mission, people who have a legally-cognizable interest in the thing they failed to pursue with diligence and prudence have a claim.

I fail to see the correlation between 'blowing up the entity' by a set of ill advised moves and 'taking care of the charitable mission'.

The charitable mission is not a legal entity and so it will never sue, but it isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card for a board that wants to decide whatever it is that they've set their mind to.

> But whose legally cognizable interest (and what specific such interest) do you think is at issue here?

For one: Microsoft has a substantial but still minority stake in the for-profit, there are certain expectations attached to that and the same goes for all of the employees both of the for-profit and the non-profit whose total compensation was tied to the stock of OpenAI, the for profit. All of these people have seen their interests be substantially harmed by the board's actions and the board would have had to balance that damage with the weight of the positive effect on the 'charitable mission' in order to be able to argue that they did the right thing here. That's not happening, as far as I can see it, in fact the board has gone into turtle mode and refuses to engage meaningfully, two days later they did it again and fired another CEO (presumably this is still in line with protecting the charitable mission?).

> Sure, there are specific parties who have specific legally cognizable interests and can hold the board accountable via legal process for alleged failures to meet obligations in regard to those specific interests.

Works for me.

> I’m asking you to identify the specific legally-cognizable interest you believe is at issue here, the party who has that interest, and your basis for believing that it is a legally-cognizable interest of that party against the board.

See above, if that's not sufficient then I'm out of ideas.
What should he do, release a statement "The allegations are not true, my sister is mentally ill"? What would be the point? It will just attract yellow press.
Even so, was expecting more dissimilarities or even just types of inappropriateness that are very human — humans are a broad bunch, no reason the LLMs wouldn't just default to snarky and lazy, like the example from the OpenAI Dev Day of someone who tried to fine tune on their slack messages, asked it to write something, and it said "Sure, I'll do it in the morning".

Despite people calling them stochastic parrots and autocomplete on steroids, ChatGPT is behaving like it is trying to answer rather than merely trying to continue the text the user enters. I find this surprising.
By starting with smaller ransoms. Same way any new business gets off the ground without rep, it's not easy or very profitable at first.
Another way to look at it is that you are now paying less for the base ticket which used to include those things. This allows consumers more choice in what part of the experience they want to pay for.

If someone wants to build a computer and they don't need a graphics card, it's better to give them the option not to get one for less money, or to get one for more money.
On the contrary, the hand-wringing over language that most well fits description of behaviour we can see is what is exhausting and needless.

Describing a plane as a mechanical bird while obviously not completely correct was far more apt for use and implications than describing it as a new blimp.

https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/s/2N59IEh5RC

You are not special. It's this kind of idiot hand-wringing that made advances in understanding animal behaviour slower than necessary, this kind of hand-wringing that let racist ideals perpetrate when they shouldn't have, the same that let babies endure needless pain and trauma. Needless to say, we can take what people say is "anthropomizing" or not at any given time with a massive grain of salt.

More harm has been wrought when we "anthropomized" less, not more.

For the implications of running LLM Agents in the wild, this is the best language to describe this behaviour. It's likely not completely correct but that's perfectly fine.
There's a hilarious meme here where someone makes a simulation of the current situation and humorous back and forth can be had.

MIT license for that idea, someone go do it. I've got some car work to do today.
Manim-sideview VSCode extension w/ snippets and live preview: https://github.com/Rickaym/Manim-Sideview

Manim example gallery: https://docs.manim.community/en/stable/examples.html

From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38019102 re: Animated AI, ManimML:

> Manim, Blender, ipyblender, PhysX, o3de, [FEM, CFD, [thermal, fluidic,] engineering]: https://github.com/ManimCommunity/manim/issues/3362

It actually looks like pygame-web (pygbag) supports panda3d and harfang in WASM, too; so manim with pygame for the web.
OP is the founder of Tarsnap, a Silver sponsor of the FreeBSD foundation for over a decade at this point. This means donations between $10,000 - $24,999 for the fiscal year.

See https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-donors/donors/
I get the OpenAI part, but why join MS?

A new company ok, but that kills the mission for sure.

That's like Obi Wan joining the Sith because Anakin didn't bring balance to the force.
I'm okay with paying extra for it, but none of the searching tools seem to include the price plus a checked bag plus a carry on, plus choosing my seat.

You have to investigate each airlines policies to find out.
There's a lot of overlap. Sean Carroll did a podcast episode with Will MacAskill, some of it going into how EA kind of leads into "prevent civilisation-ending situations", though I don't remember if they touched on AI specifically.
Do you know why he died? He must have been young.
Can't blame you. And I suspect the story is far from over, and that it may well get a lot weirder still.
Meh. They don't knowingly release it. But they could certainly continue to try to sell the data on the black market to competitors, etc, which the competitor would never disclose.
Would a combo touch+faceID be sufficient for distinguishing twins?
Sales Tax rates vary by the address and don’t apply to some goods/services. Additionally, some states have holidays (like “back to school no sales tax days”).

That is to say that the retailer needs the recipient’s address before shopping, rather than after. Also, if sales tax is handled by an external API call, those costs would increase drastically if the same call must be made for each product listing price, as opposed to just a few at the end of checkout flow.
The usual generic cautionary tales about installing pre-release build system artifacts apply here as well:

Firefox 120 hasn’t been released yet, and it’s possible that the installer linked by Phoronix will change by (presumably?) tomorrow when 120 is formally released. If the idea of installing a prerelease appeals (with all of the attendant burden that any packaging bugs or other last-minute flaws may incur), you’re probably better off switching to Beta where the release-ready changes launched weeks ago for final user testing.
If you want to see odds, what people bet and how it evolved during this (still on-going) story: https://polymarket.com/markets?_q=openai
Then we restrict portions of the bands to encryption, just like voice, Morse code, etc.
Tying in paddle as merchant of record for all installs shouldn’t be that challenging no?

Stripe has connect as well to split but I’m not sure their merchant of record features are as mature.
Montaigne.io – Create and Publish Blogs/Websites Directly from Apple Notes
Yes, and this can easily be accounted for by not taxing necessities (or taxing them at the lowest rate), which is what most of the U.S. and EU already do.

"Luxury" items and other goods are subject to higher tax rates. Educational items are treated as their own category of goods in many places. Alcohol is often broken out from the luxury category and taxed at an even higher rate. Some places tax sports events but not cultural events.

And those are all things that are very easy to do at the time-of-transaction because all of the necessary information is available and the calculation is trivial.
Delta tells me that there is a seat available at this price before I agree to it. After I agree to it it tells me that there is no seat available at this price unless I pay more.

The agreed upon "seat" in this context includes the selection. This is what this specific dark pattern is about. They are misrepresenting the value of their offering. I want to be able to reserve a seat on my flight. Not to reserve a promise that they will assign a seat... if available, obviously. If not I can just book the next flight and wait for a couple of hours at the ariport. Perfect.
GP might have been joking
Yes, I do.

Obligatory reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35083
Whoooooooosh

Colin is extremely well known on HN. Famously he was a center of a.... peculiar exchange where his skills were questioned, and he had the comeback of a lifetime: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35079
Exactly. This is all consistent and why I think they are in contact with their legal advisors (and if they aren't by now they are beyond stupid).
be careful, the Compute Enforcement Administration might be reading
These people were early hires at a company I co-founded (but was not in an official leadership role at). They had never pulled a coup before, but they would do so within two years of being hired. The coup didn’t affect me directly, and indeed happened when I was out of the country and was presented as a fait accompli. But nevertheless I left not long thereafter as the company had already begun its downward slide.

The point in my comment was this: in retrospect, I’m not sure there’s anything that would have tipped me off to that behavior at the time of interview. But if this was something I could somehow identify, it would absolute be my #1 red flag for future hires.

Edit: The “twice” part might have made my comment ambiguous. What I meant was after I hired them, these people went on to pull two separate, successive coups, which indicates to me the first time wasn’t an aberration.
Sure, but instead of saying "Boeing leaked 45GB" it would say "Boeing leaked files of undetermined severity".

The disk size does not matter, and when the severity was actually determined it would show up in the headlines as "Boeing leak determined to be a level 3 leak" instead of just being "That boeing leak 5 months ago was kinda bad".

Either way, listing the size says very little.
Is there a cheap encrypted hand walkie-talkie can you buy and legally use in Europe? AES 128 bit? Last I checked you were only able to buy "privacy" radios (16-32 bit key).
No, a process gets its environment variables from the operating system (just like argc, argv) before any code is ever executed and the majority never change them.
Full Keynote: Satya Nadella at Microsoft Ignite 2023 [video]
Some reasons why Microsoft is so bent out of shape about the OpenAI fiasco.
In Haskell you have a lot of options to type your functions in a more granular way. Consider the type class MonadIO, which lets you specify that your function works on any monad that can do side effects, not just IO specifically:

-- Before
captureAudioDuration :: DeviceID -> DiffTime -> IO WaveData
-- After
captureAudioDuration' :: MonadIO m => DeviceID -> DiffTime -> m WaveData

You can build the same thing, but for logging!

class Monad m => MonadLog m where
log :: String -> m ()
-- In IO, just log to stdout.
-- Other implementations might be a state/writer monad
-- or a library/application-specific monad for business logic.
instance MonadLog IO where
log msg = putStrLn ("log: " ++ msg)
-- Before: Bad, doesn't actually do any IO but logging
findShortestPath :: Node -> Node -> Graph -> IO [Node]
-- After: Better, type signature gives us more details on what's happening.
-- We can still use this in an IO context because IO has a MonadLog instance.
-- However, trying to capture audio in this function using either
-- of the functions above will lead to a type error.
findShortestPath' :: MonadLog m => Node -> Node -> Graph -> m [Node]

As you can imagine this can get quite verbose and there's other patterns one can use. Feel free to ask any follow-up questions :)
Some the variables should be illegal, though. A seat should cost the same whether I'm buying it from my computer in California or Lima, Peru. And the kind of travel hacking that allows someone to purchase 100k points to buy a seat using points for less than it would cost to purchase the same seat with cash should also be regulated away.

A 2-dimensional search is much easier to navigate than a 4-dimensional search. Aggregators have searches based on flexible dates. And they could combine them with Camelizer-style watching of fares to alert people when they get cheaper as well as providing historical averages. But as soon as you start throwing in more variables, it stops being possible to make sense of it all.

But also:

> if there’s 10 available seats left and 8 suddenly booked why should the last ones be priced the same

You could say the same about any product. What if a grocery store applied the same policy when it came to milk? What if Apple charged more for iPhones when a store was running low? What if a gas station charged more based on the level of their storage tanks? You don't think there'd be outrage if we started to see these airline pricing practices seep into the larger market?
I'm able to fix the front flat tires much more cheaply: just the cost of the inner tube about 6$. but the flat tires happen most frequently in the rear.

the problem is I can't remove the rear wheel myself because the frame doesn't fit perfectly. so, it's nearly impossible to remove the rear wheel unless you're really talented mechanically.
Would gently point out this is abnormal behavior for HN, been here 13 years and don't think I can recall at time a non-dead account was following people around to get followup on threads from days ago -

It's perfectly rational for me, a stranger who doesn't work at OpenAI, to say that
if I worked at OpenAI, I'd be doing it for the "Open" part and wouldn't exactly enjoy the shift to commercialization - which coincidentally, has been widely reported now, and previously, as being an issue for all employees, not just the board.

It's also perfectly reasonable for me, a stranger who doesn't work at OpenAI, to not be able to know that was outweighed by their appreciation of leadership.

I recommend taking things a bit easier, trying to make everyone else use your frame of reference of conversation as a scorable game with binary opinions is a losing battle. Been there. Better to as dang says, come with curiosity, and learn from what you don't expect to hear.
But hold on: in Australia for example there are two airlines run by the same company, Jetstar and Qantas.

Jetstar is the budget airline where you pay for all these “basics” if you want them.

Qantas is the “premium” brand where all these “basics” are standard.

When people fly Jetstar they have the option of paying sometimes 1/4 of the price by forgoing these options.

When I fly out of my regional airport the Jetstar flights are way more packed than the Qantas flights, and they’re always bigger planes too.

So the choice to forgo “basics” and save money is obviously a very popular one.

Seems like a good idea to me.
No, like the other comment said, it's just using the `n` parameter in an OpenAI style API. For example, vLLM and llamacpp have support for it.
How much is music, art, fiction sapping the Intellectual potential of humanity?

Let alone 'Love'. What a distraction that is from coding.
Two different machines attempting to solve two different problems. Yes Artemis and Orion overlap part of starship goals, but they neither have rapid turn around and reusability, nor adaptability as requirements. They are, put human on moon machines, not tanker, pickup truck, delivery vehicle, Martian launch vehicle, etc.
EA is a national security risk
I question that framing of a growing Altman influence.

Altman predates every other board member and was part of their selection.

As an alternative faming, Maybe this is the best opportunity the cautious/antripic faction would ever get and a "moment of weakness" for the Altman faction.

With the departure of Hoffman, Zilis, and Hurd, the current board was down 3 members, so the voting power of D’Angelo, Toner, McCauley was as high as it might ever be, and the best chance to outvote Altman and Brockman.
Along a similar line, look into animals that don't sweat clear! Hippos sweat red, so they look like they're just covered in blood sometimes. Horses sweat white, so they look like they're just... well, you can go see for yourself.
> ...in defiance of a widely accepted cryptographic principle holding that obscurity is detrimental to security.

Security isn't my field, but my understanding is that this is a bit of a common misunderstanding re: Kerckhoff's Doctrine / Security through Obscurity.

The idea being that keeping something like a Cipher's algo secret is not necessarily detrimental to security, but that relying on obscurity to provide security rather than the merits of the algo is the problem.

Surely, opening the algo allows the community to audit it, but a group of experts sworn to secrecy can also do this (e.g. NSA's Suite A ciphers)

EDIT: I should add that opening TETRA is almost certainly a good idea if they can update it with help of the community.
I wish XeLaTex supported microtype...
It's been a long time, so I might be wrong, but with zmqpp[1] make a global zmqpp::context and I believe it will create threads before main().

1: https://github.com/zeromq/zmqpp
the view -- as presented to me by friends in the space but not at OpenAI itself -- is something like "AGI is dangerous, but inevitable. we, the passionate idealists, can organize to make sure it develops with minimal risk."

at first that meant the opposite of monopolization: flood the world with limited AIs (GPT 1/2) so that society has time to adapt (and so that no one entity develops asymmetric capabilities they can wield against other humans). with GPT-3 the implementation of that mission began shifting toward worry about AI itself, or about how unrestricted access to it would allow smaller bad actors (terrorists, or even just some teenager going through a depressive episode) to be an existential threat to humanity. if that's your view, then open models are incompatible.

whether you buy that view or not, it kinda seems like the people in that camp just got outmanuevered. as a passionate idealist in other areas of tech, the way this is happening is not good. OpenAI had a mission statement. M$ manuevered to co-opt that mission, the CEO may or may not have understood as much while steering the company, and now a mass of employees is wanting to leave when the board steps in to re-align the company with its stated mission. whether or not you agree with the mission: how can i ever join an organization with a for-the-public-good type of mission i do agree with, without worrying that it will be co-opted by the familiar power structures?

the closest (still distant) parallel i can find: Raspberry Pi Foundation took funding from ARM: is the clock ticking to when RPi loses its mission in a similar manner? or does something else prevent that (maybe it's possible to have a mission-driven tech organization so long as the space is uncompetitive?)
A/B testing, sales funnel, conversion rates
This tracks for me; I joined Wikipedia after I encountered some juvenile vandalism on a sanitation page. It felt good to actually contribute back.

The next day my edit was reversed my account was blocked, and I was accused of the vandalism I just fixed. I made an appeal to the effect of “no you’re mistaken, look more closely, why would I even do that and come back here?”

Fast forward and some Wikipedian messages me to “cut the guy some slack” and to “let it blow over”.

At that moment I realized I had only been part of Wikipedia for a single day and I already hated it.

I logged out and deleted my account after that.

Reading this article showed me my experience want unique and the arbitration indeed exists to protect editorial regime.
This is very cool. What's the pricing you anticipate?
I believe that Boeing already did than analysis and determined it’s #6.
I'm pretty sure that's the book! Thanks for the link. Interesting that it's going for that much. I might get it for my niece one day.
I'm surprised hemocyanin isn't poisonous to us, or at least bad. Ingesting copper just doesn't sound healthy. AFAIC it isn't something we usually do either, so no pressure to evolve a way to metabolise it either.