skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> For example, the US doesn't have a problem with lead chromate in their turmeric.

https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2016/08/six-brands-of-turmeri...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5415259/

What changed?
Yes. AGI is literally their charter.

https://openai.com/charter
You can buy a 2nd hand Zoe, e-Up, or i3 for under £10k - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertising-location...

Will they last 10 years? Probably too early to say. Battery degradation isn't the problem people thought it would be. But anything mechanical is going to need some maintenance.
How so? Think about it, Microsoft is very risk averse. Hell, even to get the Xbox project going they had to fight so damn hard because "we're not a games company, we make Windows and Office"

It's completely illogical to say that just because an AI company isn't open source it can't strive to also be "safe".
I’d also like to add that IBM had no issues doing business with the Nazi party.

They did it for the money, and stopped doing it for the money. They advertised on X for the money, and they stopped advertising X for the money.

Is a white nationalist of faith worse, or better, than a white nationalist of profits? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust
You’re only comparing the upsides of walking to downsides of cars. Re: Security, I lived in a walkable city, well, guess what happens when you walk in those beautiful utopic cities with diversity, you get mugged. And I was luck to not hold my boyfriend’s hand at the train station, a gay couple died for that. And it’s so forbidden to talk about it that, when you have a discussion about rape, many girls will admit to it, “but don’t talk about it, it would make people racist.” And indeed people would compound on this experience, while always dodging the racism labels, but always very distinctly describing this exact toxic behavior of walkable cities.

I’ve moved to a car-centric city with gated communities. Much less stress. No need to deal with predatory people in the building. No need to deal with awful people defending the predatory people. I miss walking, but it’s a straight up better quality of life.
Why do you need OS for that kind of project? If you're implementing network drivers and avoiding scheduler, you could just run your code on bare metal.
with the amount they paid, how did they not get a seat in the board?
Stock market is full of dumb suits falling for salesman
I'm talking only about soliciting co-workers. It should be within the ability of legislators to ban only that - they are clearly distinguishable, as they have different contractual relationships. I don't really have an opinion about soliciting clients.

It's true that multiple people can quit at the same time, but non-solicitation clauses significantly impedes the process otherwise companies wouldn't bother to write the them. If you have worked for a shitty company, what delays quitting? Often team loyalty is a big part of that. I think it would massively speed up the decomposition of bad workplaces if entire teams could move in one go. It would be highly efficient for the acquiring company as they get a complete team that already works together, for only slightly more effort than hiring a single employee. It would also be huge disincentive to tolerating bad managers.
Every app has its skeletons
Via his Y Combinator related holdings in companies which use the OpenAI APIs? Or just which are getting capital and exposure due to ChatGPT boosting visibility of AI.
Your forward-looking value to an organization is your value whether it’s realized in equity or not.

In the world where Sam Altman leads OpenAI to market dominance and eventual acquisition by Microsoft for $400B or whatever, he obviously would represent an important part of what Microsoft would be buying and would be compensated accordingly.
While I'm sure 100 hours a week is impossible, my dad did 6x11 work days which were dominated by coding pre-internet. You wouldn't know him, he burned out. I have personally witnessed him do more than 60 hours in a week coding. That said, his coding work isn't necessarilly creative. He can do a 12 hour stint of step through debugging stopping only to microwave frozen food. Or 12 hours of data analytic work. Since it is said this man is into optimization I'd say it is possible he's like my dad, he gets into this numb zombie state "change something, run again, look at profiler output line by line." Some people doom scroll HN or tiktok 14 hours a day, other's doom scroll a flame graph.
Ask HN: Do you want to get notifications about users?
As a SaaS developer, I can't get notifications about newly registered users / or current user behaviors. I have no idea what's going on with my SaaS. I just have a database.

I know, there are SaaS apps like LogSnag for this.

But, I also want to give them rewards based on their behavior, automatically. (for example, for those who uses the product well, or spends long time on site, ...)

Do you think this is a problem that needs to be solved? And which market is good for this?

Thanks
What would you accept as evidence and would that be appropriate for general news?
I think you’re on to something, especially when that’s where most of the big scale enterprises end up.
I feel like the solution is to force the company to pay full TC (average of previous years + inflation or something?) for the duration of the noncompete.
I'm sorry to hear that but it sounds like a separate issue from car dependency. Obviously personal safety is important regardless.
How difficult would it be for Altman and these guys to
start OpenAI² tomorrow and become competitive with their
old company?

Presumably it would require enormous startup capital?
There isn't really any reason for this except Sam is a YC founder and OpenAI (whose name is a lie because they provide proptietary LLMs) is being hyped in the media.

He is already rich. Getting fired means an early retirement in Bahama.
If you can get your hands on it and haven't seen it, watch the documentary Dark Days about people living in railway tunnels below NYC.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Days_(film)
Fundamentally, if revenue is not more than expenses, then the organisation won't last long, relying as it does on the kindness of strangers.
Reads like lesswrong fan-fiction
Microsoft will partner with them if they start a new company I reckon, 100%.

And Microsoft are risk adverse enough that I think they do care about AI safety, even if only from a "what's best for the business" standpoint.

Tbh idc if we get AGI. There'll be a point in the future where we have AGI and the technology is accessible enough that anybody can create one. We need to stop this pointless bickering over this sort of stuff, because as usual, the larger problem is always going to be the human using the tool than the tool itself.
Often they boil down to honest substantive disagreements about what would best accomplish the non-profit's mission.
Why OpenAI Fired Sam Altman – and What Happens Next in the AI World
> Do users care about that? I care about features stability and avoidance of shitification.

Maybe not the individual users, but the enterprises/startups which builds around OpenAI.
yes there must be strong accountability for this to work (e.g. a self financed open source project or bootstrapped startup), not only do mid devs overestimate their appetite, motivation to grind and delivery, but also face the Curse of Development wrt communicating to the money people their value. Why should the rockstar grind away 50x harder than their coasting peers for 30% more salary? What happens when the bean counters reorg you or a manager labels you not a team player? Equity is the right form of comp to motivate this level of delivery and at that point it’s not about 50x skills but about sales and overcoming the communication gaps to establish a nonzero price for your equity. Which is why so many amazing niche projects languish and starve and the founder-engineer eventually breaks and goes and ships react apps for whatever empty startup has startup-investor fit that year
They did not ever have the possibility of one but decided that their investment was still worth the return.

We can debate whether or not that was wise of them, but because of the charter and structure of OpenAI it was never on the table.
If you alienate the people that generate wealth, they will eventually move away. Overwhelmingly, such people do not want to live in a city with slums.
This. Australia subsidised Ford and GM(Holden) onshore production across the cold war to ensure a domestic tank and aircraft capacity. In modern times the minute the subsidies ended they shut down.
Labor rights shouldn’t be governed by employment metrics.
Why not? It's on topic.

Should people discussing nuclear energy not talk about fusion?
Fair point. I don't want to split hairs on specifics, but I had in mind the "weak AGI" (consciousness- and sentience-free) vs "strong AGI".

Since Shank's comment didn't specify what they meant, I should have made a more charitable interpretation (i.e. assume it was "weak AGI").
They could get dump trucks full of cash within a week if they wanted it.
There are reasons to believe it could work similarly, but they are related to computational efficiency and out lack of knowledge regarding more efficient methods. But I would not bet on our own ignorance as an explanation.
I think it's also the surprise of how sudden it unfolded before the public's eyes. And that, seemingly in an organisation that's figuratively on top of the world currently, and pushing through.
It’s a lot cheaper to replicate than to innovate
> Well, obviously. Is living in a slum worse than nothing?

It's easier to move people on when it gets "inconvenient" if there are no structures.
I love seeing this creativity, but I hate the system that causes people to have to live this way.

I was homeless off and on for years, blending in. Crashing in college campus common areas, or living in my car. Bumming showers from friends once in a while or paper towel baths in gas station bathrooms. Would sometimes sleep in the trunk when it got cold enough. I was normally employed, had friends, and most knew nothing of my living situation. I knew how to hide. Part of that invisible homeless population. Thankfully I had my youth, my health, and the will to find many types of work, save, find my way out. Most are not so lucky.

Later, on my feet, I would often try to help visible homeless I had developed some empathy for. One day handing out 50 sandwiches at Lake Eola Park in Orlando, like I did every month, I was given a warning by a police officer to stop. I tore it up in front of him and dared him to arrest me. I was already out of food for the day so he walked away. Dozens of others who doing a larger scale regular feedings with Food Not Bombs were actually arrested over a few months.

Feeding 25 people was the limit, and cops went in undercover plain clothes to catch who would commit the crime of feeding the 26th hungry person at Lake Eola park.

They would often arrest the homeless too, for loitering and other such nonsense. Friend of mine had been arrested for this, and then repeatedly arrested over a dozen times for failing to pay the fines, jail costs, and court costs related to the previous arrests and so on burning endless taxpayer time and money. At least he got a hot meal and a bed in jail some nights.

Once in a local court myself for a traffic citation, I saw a man in front of me issued a $200 fine by a judge for holding up a sign asking for money in a public place.

The homeless are not helped in most of America. They are not seen as human, but as vermin to be removed, along with anyone that gives them too much unsanctioned help.

You can hardly blame them for breaking a few laws to survive, when it is against the law for them to even exist.
It works pretty well in my C++ code. Context: modern C++ with few footguns, inside functions with pretty-self-explanatory names.

I don't really get the "low bar for contributions" argument because GH Copilot's contributions are too small-sized for there to even be any bar. It writes the obvious and tedious loops and other boilerplate so I can focus on what the code should actually do.
> Since all they do is software...

For a certain definition of "software": when only doing one training run costs an 8 digits sum (requiring hardware one order of magnitude more expensive than that to run) I kinda dispute the "all they do is software".

It's definitely not "all software": a big part of their advantage compared to actually free and open models is the insane hardware they have access to.

The free and open LLMs are doing very well compared to OpenAI once you take into account that the cost to train them is 1/100th to 1/1000th what it costs to train the OpenAI models.

This can be seen with StableDiffusion: once the money is poured in training the models and then the model made free, suddenly the edge of proprietary solutions is tiny (if it even exists at all).

I'd like to see the actually open and free models trained on the hardware used to train OpenAI: then we'd see how much of a "software edge" OpenAI has.

And my guess is it'd be way less impressive than you make it out to be.
This is Time Magazine...Once wrote a piece about Gates and Warren Buffett spending the weekends on Math quizzes...
Thread about this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316682
Bill Gates – Microsoft Antitrust Deposition – Highlights
Antisemitic and Anti-Muslim Hate Speech Surges Across the Internet
Probability of this happening is low. "Elon Musk said" in general does not transfer to anything real in Twitter anymore.

His lawyers tell him that he does not want Media Matters lawyers to go trough discovery process.
We're at the stage of "people are proofreading the announcement email". Expect it on Monday.

FWIW, the delay (the announcement was originally scheduled for the 14th) has been mainly due to hiccups in getting FreeBSD 14 into clouds. Nothing to do with the role change.
If the compute is paid with imaginary hype money? Doesn’t matter how useful a service is if providing it turns out to be unsustainable.
That's very cute. The homeless are just a beacon so you can know what is in store for you if you don't bend the knee.
>Now I'm on a used Radeon 5600.

Well AMD just ended support for Vega and Polaris architectures so you're shit out of luck there, proving the point of this thread.

And AMD was selling Vega APUs all the way in 2022. So imagine a year later you get the news that the chip in your system is not getting updates because it's architectures is too old. Lol.

I wish I couldn't forget AMD for this.
And screen tearing is a major benefit of not using a compositor. There's an unavoidable tradeoff between image quality and latency. Neither is objectively better than the other. Xorg has the unique advantage that you can easily switch between them by changing the TearFree setting with xrandr.
Just a reminder that corporate structures are there to serve the scientists and engineers, not the other way around.

For OpenAI, their particular weird corporate structure was far too flawed.

The engineers and scientists will readily find another, and progress will continue.
> This is appalling accommodation: no mains electricity, no heating, no running water, no sewerage. It is cheap,

Exactly. You can save a lot of money upfront by demanding cities allow shanty towns and slums but they'll only bring heavy costs and problems down the road that are far reaching and hard to clean up. The richest nations on Earth can more than afford to do better. Real, safe, sanitary housing is not impossible, it just requires investment.

We should also be giving consideration to where we build that housing so that we're not hurting the local environment by pushing biocapacity too far. We need to quit hurting ourselves with stupid shortsighted cheap temporary workarounds that just cause more problems and focus on long term sustainable solutions.
> If releases weren't frequent people would have to build their own from the master branch.

But why??? What in the world of Calibre demands such urgent updates? I use a variety of software (some quite complex) that do a great job with much less frequent updates. Why not Calibre?
Fair question. I meant it should be talked with more nuance and specifics, as the definition of "AGI" is what you make of it.

Also, I hope my response to tempestn clarifies a bit more.

Edit: I'll be more explicit by what I mean by "nuance" — see Stuart Russell. Check out his book, "Human Compatible". It's written with cutting clarity, restraint, thoughtfulness, simplicity (not to be confused with "easy"!), an absolute delight to read. It's excellent science writing, and a model for anyone thinking of writing a book in this space. (See also Russell's principles for "provably beneficial AI".)
Just like if I watch you key in your PIN at an ATM, I'm not stealing your PIN. You can still use your PIN, same as before!
The political establishment has a pretty foolproof system for shit like this, which it has been using for decades if not centuries.

Step 1: Get Trump and his ilk to make moves toward disbanding the EPA.

There is no step 2. Democrat voters now throw their support to the EPA, forgetting all the stories about its dysfunction, because the threatened alternative is no EPA at all.

"The lesser evil" will be the rally cry as smart, kind people beg you to vote for the corporate-funded Democrat who wants to "preserve" the EPA and its funding as is.

> "not wanting to be poisoned" is now a politically contentious position.

Has been for a long time - ask Erin Brockovich, or the Superfund victims, or Donziger.
Coding for 10/12hs daily isn’t healthy, is not sustainable and is not the way to live. I love coding and I being in front of a computer all my life, since I was 8. All the meaningful life moments in retrospective weren’t at the screen. Life occurs outside the screen.

I understand that sometimes is worth it, to create a great product, solve something important or just for fun. But beware
Ask HN: Are There Viewers for Memory Layout?
Hello. Is there any tool that can help me view the memory layout of a program to get a better understanding of its inner workings, avoid memory leaks and other various problems that arise with malloc(), realloc(), calloc(), etc.?
Because of Altman's dismissal?
Some humans also never respond "I don't know" even when they don't know. I know people who out-hallucinate LLMs when pressed to think rigorously
Obvious wall would be financial - Sam arranged more Microsoft funding, diluting the non-profitness even more, and tried to force board's hand by high cash burn and persuasion.

Board had to act fast to fix it. And OpenAI changed enterprise pricing of API to be up front for cashflow related to that.
They might have been superior but it took a while for users to switch. Obviously some went across very quickly but AltaVista et al were still viable for a while.
You don't think already starting with world-class talent (Sutskever, Karpathy, Zaremba and more being part of the founding team) lead to OpenAI being able to get more world-class talent, rather than world-class talent joining because of Altman?
how can people be so naïve... think about it. isn't it exactly the kind of spin that you would expect from "new" leadership? like, of course they're going to take the moral high-ground like any new regime would.
Give thorium a try. Probably the best least bloated reader for windows there is. I guess on osx and linux too. I switched to it couple of months ago. Haven't looked back.
Tell me one thing they’ve changed thanks to precise monitoring of what gets hit.
Microsoft is risk averse only in the sense that they don't want any competition.
Chatgpt's consciousness would be akin to plato's cave. Even if chatgpt were more intelligent, wouldn't it be staring at different shadows?

Given that chatgpt has consciousness, would it be able to break the fourth wall? There seems to be an implicit assumption that it must break that in order to prove its consciousness to us. Maybe that's how AGI will come to be, because we desire to train it that way.
If it worked exactly the same there would indeed be no benefit. If you’re happy with that you have then there’s no reason to switch.
Lots of research is mostly programming, e.g. my applied maths PhD. The way to try out software-based ideas is with programming.
I also notice that the more complex a task is, the less hours of it I can do.

If I know what to write, and I just have to crunch out pretty straightforward code, I can do more hours (nowhere near 12 hours though, maybe 8 at best).

I can imagine the work your dad did, didn't include juggling a big complex system in his head, which seems to require a lot of mental energy.

That's basically also what Carmack states, that you can reach 12 hours if you plan your work to include some easier tasks for that day. But then again, I was never able to really apply that strategy.

Thanks for you take on it! :)
Insert infamous HN comment on how Dropbox will never succeed because you can do the same with git and a linux shared folder.
Does it requieres a X(exTwitter) account? I'm going to miss it. :(
Ask HN: Interesting people to follow on Twitter in the tech/security
Interesting people to follow on twitter in the tech/security field ?
>I bet Sam goes and founds a company to take on OpenAI…and wins.

How? Training sources are much more restricted know.
I'm curious how you came to this conclusion - what publication did you read this in?

And, if you please, why do you feel confident enough to imply these chemicals are safe? Are you an expert in biological processes?
>Seriously, Mozilla gets shat on all the time, presumably because they're one of the few sources of hope and therefore disappointment in an overall increasingly problematic Internet landscape, and I wish they would be bigger too, but they're doing fine all things considered.

I think they get shat on all the time because of what you mentioned but also because they consistently fail to deliver a good browser experience for most of their still loyal users.

Most of the people I talk to who still use their product do so out of allegiance to the values of FOSS despite the dog-shit products they keep foisting upon us. You'd think we'd wise up several decades in by now.
I installed a reverse osmosis water filter, switched to cast iron or stainless steel cookware, and use glass for food storage as much as I can. I wish there was an easy test for my level of exposure but I'm definitely aware.
I’m not sure I understand why an overlay allows partial offloading while rounding the corner of the video does not.

Couldn’t the rounded corners of a video also be an overlay?

I’m sure I’m missing something here, but the article does not explain that point.
What is the truth about OpenAI achieving some sort of "true" AGI?
I've been wearing Unshoes sandals and Xero Hana shoes when it's winter or I'm going to work.

I've been really thinking about getting a pair of Keen Sparta 2 work shoes though because I keep randomly doing stuff where safety toes would probably be a good thing.

I also spend probably under $50 a year, total, on all clothes and shoes together, so I'm not exactly an expert.
I'm not diagnosed as you are, but I'm the same in that terms. Boring needs to be automated, challenging tasks need to be automated too.

So basically, my brain is lazy and try to find a way to keep it in that state.
Don't need to wait a decade, or even a half, for AI mental healthcare. It's already been tried.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/31/eating-di...
The whole team that trained GPT1-3 and came up with RLHF left to found Anthropic, perhaps proving that key people are maybe not so key and that other factors are more important. This is a further blow though on top of the previous one.
Aldi and Lidl are each other's biggest competitors. Aldi Süd and Nord don't really clash because there is only two markets where both are present: Germany, where they aren't competing though (split in North and South) and the US (Aldi vs. Trader Joe's). Every other country only has one of the two Aldis. Lidl on the other hand is present in most large markets alongside one of the Aldis.