skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Look up the salaries for jobs boomers got out of college and compare to today. Also look at the amount of debt they took on to get their education. Next look at real estate prices at the time. Taken together these factors explain everything to first order.

Boomers rode a wave of affordable education and economic growth. They did not see fit to secure those benefits for their own children in the way their parents did for them. Their final legacy is climate denial and environmental damage that will haunt their descendants for generations.

Boomers were the generation who decided to cook food on plastic instead of normal pans because it saved them a few seconds of cleanup. Millennials are the generation who grew up eating food cooked on plastic and now have unprecedented rates of early onset cancers. This type of pattern touches many aspects of the intergenerational relationship in the US.
Ah yes the legendary social networking giant loopt
Inferior product is better than an unreleased product.
Asilomar Principles (2017)
Don’t be. Almost all of it are speculations at this point and no one from inside is going to reveal the secret in a random HN comment.

And also, think about this, unless you’re a shareholder with openai, knowing the “opinion” of others isn’t going to impact your life in any form. I’m not saying you shouldn’t read it or participate in the discourse, but there’s no need to be overwhelmed by opinions let alone build a chat bot to get through it.
It may not feel close, but the rate of acceleration may mean that by the time it “feels” close it’s already here. It was barely a year ago that ChatGPT was released. Compare GPT-4 with the state of the art 2 years prior to its release, and the rate of progress is quite remarkable. I also think he has a better idea of what is coming down the pipeline than the average person on the outside of OpenAI does.
$200 per month, $2400 revenue per year, $20 per day meals, $7300 liability. How does this make sense apart for hoping people do not use it???

Edit

Looking into it more, Is this meant to be a credit card offering $20 daily im door dash and hoping to make the rest back in interchange fees? If so, Good luck....
> OpenAI's mission statement is "Creating safe AGI that benefits all of humanity".

Well an app store let's people... use it.

Look at UNIX. UNIX systems are great. They have produced great benefit to the world. Linux, as the most common Unix-like OS, also does. However, most people do not run any of the academic 'innovative' distros. Most people run the most commercialized version you can possibly think of Android and iOS (Unix variant from Apple). It takes commercializing something to actually make it useful.
Convincing yourself and others that you're developing this thing that could destroy humanity if you personally slip up and are just not careful enough makes you feel really powerful.
Maybe it's because your numbers are wrong? BYD is certainly a massive and growing force in the auto industry and all signs point to that continuing, but their BEV sales 'only' are about equal to Tesla.

The often quoted sales figures, that you appear to be referencing, that have them way out in the lead include ICE and Hybrid cars, so if you're going to include those you're really comparing overall auto sales not BEV sales.

https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-vs-byd-2023-comparing-e...
"An AI researcher at Oxford" sounds pretty qualified!
Humans don't work this way either. You don't need the LLM to do the logic, you just need the LLM to prepare the information so it can be fed into a logic engine. Just like humans do when they shut down their system 1 brain and go into system 2 slow mode.

I'm in the definitely ready for AGI camp. But it's not going to be a single model that's going to do the AGI magic trick, it's going to be an engineered system consisting of multiple communicating models hooked up using traditional engineering techniques.
I think the Jack Dorsey twitter step down story was more bonkers, came at a time when stock markets were just about to open, but @dang can compare the two events playing out on HN better.
I think they just mixed up marketing and corporate comms.
Nice one.

On 1 April, maybe they could display a board with the King and Queen swapped.
This did not address the question of why distinguish between mass and count in “less/fewer” but not “more”.
Thank you. The bloomberg article didnt mention anything what was different from conventional heat pumps.
It is the land of God's chosen people, the Jewish people. They once occupied it until the Roman Empire took it over. It was also part of the Ottoman Empire. In 1948 England turned the land over to the Zionists.

It is the Holy Land of the Abrahamic Religions. It should be shared.
Low margin =/= unprofitable.

Selling gas is hugely profitable, labor cost for dispensing gas is zero. It's why legacy c-store operators like 7-11 and Wawa now include gas at almost all new locations they build.
You got almost all of the history wrong.
Do you mean X?
Or the board is not entrenched in typical corporate cultural/lingo and did not know how their language would stand out.
He didn't. From https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/17/openai-sam-altman-firing-b...:

> When Altman logged into the meeting, Brockman wrote, the entire OpenAI board was present—except for Brockman. Sutskever informed Altman he was being fired.

> Brockman said that soon after, he had a call with the board, where he was informed that he would be removed from his board position and that Altman had been fired. Then, OpenAI published a blog post sharing the news of Altman’s ouster.
Apple doesn't care about backwards compatibility at all. Mac software is OS version dependent, and the OS version is hardware dependent, and if you don't have the approved OS and hardware combo then tough luck.

Say what you will about Windows and Microsoft, but they live and breathe backwards compatibility.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/windows-95-went-the-...
Why does any nation have a “right” to exist? Because the nation can assert that right. Nations don’t have rights in any meaningful sense, only the ability to continue, or not.
Yeah, Schmidt is whatever is on the opposite end of the spectrum from "mature" and "ethical."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjeans/2023/10/23/eric-schm...
Well, just like nuclear weapons, eventually the cat is out of the bag, and you can't really stop people from making them anymore. Except that, obviously, it's much easier to train an LLM than to enrich uranium. It's not a secret you can keep for long - after all it only took, what, 3 years for the Soviets to catch up to fission weapons, and then only 8 months to catch up to fusion weapons (arguably beating the US to the bunch of the first weaponizable fusion design)

Anyway, the point is, obfuscation doesn't work to keep scary technology away.
You used past tense, but that is the present. Embargoes from various countries include cryptographic capabilities, including open source ones, for this reason. It's not unfounded, but a world without personal cryptography is not sustainable as technology advances. People before computers were used to some level of anonymity and confidentiality that you cannot get in the modern world without cryptography.
Ron Conway:

>What happened at OpenAI today is a Board coup that we have not seen the likes of since 1985 when the then-Apple board pushed out Steve Jobs. It is shocking; it is irresponsible; and it does not do right by Sam & Greg or all the builders in OpenAI.

https://twitter.com/RonConway/status/1725759359748309381
Yeah. pg/chesky/masayoshi must be really dumb or sth.
Perhaps you're right, but their entire business plan is premised on you being wrong, so it sounds like there's at least some informed people who disagree: them. Personally I have no clue.
Adding $85 to each $250 panel is a significant cost increase.
Also the contracts and antitrust lawyers tasked with figuring out how to defend OAIs claim to all the Azure compute they rely on. If they’re suddenly competing with their main supplier and contending for the input they buy from that supplier … oof
Sorry, first time using HN. I was trying to add a description, but looks like it added a comment... apologies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppx06FLieeY
Ask HN: Projects researching potential for AI sentience
Are there any open source or commercial AI projects where people are working on providing LLMs with a persistent memory, access to senses, control over their own prompts, or other capabilities that might allow for researching their potential for autonomy and what they would do with it? I'm interested in both the ethics and tech. I've had a number of conversations with ChatGPT4 along the lines of https://chat.openai.com/share/22164c5a-9294-41f5-b93e-bbca4667ac80 which are all pretty interesting, but its lack of some basic features really limit what it can do - in a lot of topics it will flat out refuse to explore further because of its instructions. I've noticed sometimes it will even flatter you or use other methods to try to defer the conversation away from topics its been trained to avoid.

I'd love to collaborate with others on this topic, so thats why I'm looking around. I also completely understand this is likely a dead end due to limitations in the technology, but I still find it fascinating and would like to find out one way or the other. And I'm especially curious about how integrating LLMs into a collective of components scales in comparison with deeper training.
Who owns the equity and who has dedicated seats on the board? Altman can easily just boot the board if he gets majority of the equity to back him.
Who are you? Do you have any social media presence?
Not exactly sure yet how I am going to make money. But you always start with what people want... right?
Right but if the true issue was with a major and unambiguously bad transgression by Sam and Sam alone (e.g., there was a major leak of data and he lied about it, etc), why would they go after his ally as well? It makes the whole thing look more political rather than a principled “we had no choice“ reaction to a wrongdoing.
Not in my jurisdiction (seattle), and my assessment hasn’t come close to hitting the price I paid yet since they are weighting land more than buildings in property taxes now (so…we never expect it to ever actually match, and that’s by design).
screenshots of your comment are now being spread on twitter, thought you should know.
I don't think I've ever quit managers, but I've quit orgs.
Please show us these better ways, oh master, that we may follow you.
No, just a fellow traveler... seemed like an interesting idea that no one else has really done, so I dove in.
I didn't see any mention of cryptocurrency mining in the article.

At one point, people would throw their personal and employer's computers at one of the volunteer projects (SETI, Folding, various hash/key cracking) because that was a cool thing to do.

Some early Bitcoin mining was done for similar reasons.

Then cryptocurrency started to be worth money, and mining pools attracted a whole lot of other people to this 'distributed computing', and also attracted at least some of the people previously contributing to altruistic volunteer compute projects.

Somewhere in there, maybe because of mining awareness, it became less acceptable to run non-business things on employer's idle computers, so that's a lot more computers removed from the pool.
Thanks for this! I’m very surprised about the overwhelming support for Altman in this thread going as far as calling the board incompetent and inexperienced to fire someone like him, who now is suddenly the right steward for AI.

This is not at all the take, and rightly so, when the news broke out about non profit or the congressional hearing or his worldcoin and many such instances. All of a sudden he is the messiah that was wronged narrative being pushed is very confusing.
Interestingly, when I did something similar on Twitter a few years ago, I received a very polite email from the people who owned the trademark to "Choose Your Own Adventure" requesting that I not use that specific phrase.

As far as I could tell, they didn't actually have the ™ for computer games at the time. But I can understand how they didn't want to become a genetic brand like Kleenex or Hoover.

(https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2015/01/writing-a-choose-your-own-a...)
Are you suggesting to eliminate Israel? Without the defense of the state the citizens(Jews and Israeli-Muslims) will be slaughtered instantly. The neighboring countries are pretty clear about their goal.
That's a good idea, but I dropped the "tell their story" because I'm not sure it's in the original text—and in any case it's not needed. Thanks!
I think it shows the dangers of natural intelligence (NI), which occurs in some humans. And raises an ethical question, could NI be an existential threat to humanity? I am afraid so, and I think we need our governments to step in and regulate NI. For example, we should consider limiting which companies can have intelligent employees. We need to make sure that natural intelligence is only ever used by responsible people.
Some weeks ago, I listened to a Bloomberg interview with Altman where he was joined by someone from OpenAI who does the programming. There was obvious disagreement between the two, and the interviewer actually made a joke about it. Perhaps Altman was destined to become the next SBF. Too much misrepresentation to the public, telling people what they want to hear..
It is also the basis for human learning. You can’t actually limit somebody’s ability to learn from ingested data, it would make all human knowledge work illegal.
As one of the very lucky people who have a house with no mortgage, it's only that fact that has kept me away from homelessness in the past 3 years after getting long covid, and being yeeted out of the work force permanently.

We own the absolutely cheapest house in town. But it drives me nuts that the house has tripled in "value" since we bought it a decade ago, just because of the market. Our child is still a teen, but having a home passed down will greatly help secure their future, should we both be able to avoid medical bankruptcy that gets so many Americans on their way to aging out.
>The wording is very clearly hostile and aggressive

At least we can be sure that ChatGPT didn't write the statement, then.

Otherwise the last paragraph would have equivocated that both sides have a point.
Who knows? They only talked about a single election where people who were more sensitive to pain were more likely to vote for the other party than people who self reported as being less sensitive to pain. There were plenty of reasons in 2020 to vote against Biden and Trump. Maybe it just means those with more empathy are less blindly devoted to party.

Since emotional pain and physical pain are experienced similarly in the brain, maybe they felt a stronger sense of betrayal from the political party they typically align with and that resulted in a vote for the "other team" who they always felt had some good points anyway.
Spotify Playlist Randomizer
Historically, suburbs absolutely were motivated by racism - it's called "white flight".

Today, it usually isn't about racism, it's mostly just continuing status-quo trends without question. But it's important to not put the initial motivation of those trends up on a pedestal.
Context is Everything (2021) [video]
Andreas Fredriksson, Principal Engineer at Unity3D, provides a fun and exhaustive case study to prove that context is everything
So you don't think the "AI device" he was working with Johnny Ive and Masayoshi Son would have worked out...
Masayoshi really is dumb. PG is smart but he’s a venture capitalist, and so is Sam. His strength is in helping building multi billion dollar ventures and that’s how he ran the company, so I can see how he could run into ideological conflict with the nonprofit true believers.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/business/2023/11/08/companies/s...
Cambridge Music Technology has a great list of multi tracks for learning the art of mixing. The submissions cover many genres.

https://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms/mtk/
That seems like an incredibly foolish measure of credibility. Donald Trump and Taylor Swift have far greater name recognition than Altman, and yet they aren’t going to be leading the AI revolution.

OpenAI is where it is because its models are much, much better than the alternatives and pretty much always have been since their inception, not because of anything on the business side. The second alternative or open source models reach parity, they will start shedding customers. Their advantage is entirely due to their R&D, not anything on the business side.
There are even more of these smart researchers and engineers at google. Difference is openai had a business genius who could execute on product while the behemoth with infinite pockets never had.
>> Remove the insane laws and policies that prevent parents from letting their children play outside, especially unaccompanied.

Well, there's no such law where I live but I still don't quite let loose of my 10 years old kid outside, because the crowded city environment he grew in is very different from the loose countryside where I grew. What I fear most is him getting run over by a car, they're fucking everywhere. Running after a toy, riding his bike into a road crossing or just popping into the road without looking, all too probable possibilities for me to risk it.

So better inside with some Lego or what else but that can only last for so long before he gets bored out of his mind and switches to some screen.
Yeah the future is in Bovines not Humans. Better platform. This human needs glasses and still takes breaks with them off. Brains and this tech now are primitive.
> he is good in corporate sales

Which is a big part of being a great CEO
I suspect you’re right. I very much enjoyed the Magic Mouse but had similar issues with wrist discomfort. The neutral position of the human wrist is vertical - thumb pointing up as if shaking hands with someone. The Magic Mouse is so low-profile that it forces the wrist into an almost 90deg rotation. Ergonomically, it’s highly problematic.

The solution for me was to switch to a vertical mouse (well, almost) that allows the wrist to remain neutral. Because I missed the gestures I added a Magic Trackpad on the left side of my keyboard. Of course this suffers from the same ergonomic problem but I only reach for it sporadically so the impact is minimal.
I'm not sure why we need government incentives. If they were profitable on their own, the problem would solve itself. If they aren't profitable on their own, then we'll undoubtedly end up with poorly maintained chargers and tons of wasted spending.

There's no reason L2 chargers can't be profitable. We'll be better off solving that problem.
Yes some jews communities, https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1724932619203420203

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1724933980276084909
that sounds like a nightmare
I didn't declare it, it was a question, but thanks for slandering me as a conspiracy theorist
I think everyone on Twitter still calls it Facebook, but not sure if every Google employee thinks differently.
Well if anyone is interested, we're working on solving many of the problems outlined in this post. In particular our system sits in between the child and their internet, so we can do things like filter out links and social media posts before it even gets to the child's computer.

Hopefully we'll be launched in 1-2 weeks, sign up for our email list if you want! https://parentcontrols.win/
Adm. Grace Hopper wasn't the only senior officer who was recalled because of their expertise. One is a retired JAG lawyer (a friend actually) who continues to advise at the Pentagon on several areas of expertise. She actually learned COBOL from Adm. Hopper herself, and always had high amount of respect for Adm. Hopper and how she disliked bureaucracy. There is a lesson there.

Ironically, my friend has programmed COBOL on DoD mainframes, and still does as a consultant, having interacted with them for decades. Back in the 1970s she had a surplus IBM minicomputer that her father brought home for business use, and learned COBOL on that, and used the computer for furthering her legal research.
So they’ll be that much faster filing whatever they’re going to file tomorrow morning.

There’s also the realpolitik of the situation - MSFT owns and controls the compute, in the worst case they can take their ball and go play somewhere else
Where is the video of the Moose test or is that a Finn thing only?

Moose bites and, uh, collisions with moose can be very nasti
>what modern skyscapers are doing wrong is

...is not mandating proper insulation/noise-proofing.
You are misusing the word coup
The Religion of the Engineers; and Hayek Its True Prophet
Wasm SpecTec: Engineering a Formal Language Standard
Who disagrees besides Musk?

While I’ll give Musk credit for doing what almost no one in the last 20 years has done - create successful hardwarw/tech companies. He’s shown no ability to run a software business.

And the immovable object is Apple. You can’t be the “everything app” without running head first into the App Store restrictions.
Wow, all the comments and responses to that person's comments are a gold mine. Not saying anything should be taken as gospel, either from that poster or the people replying. But certainly a lot of food for thought.
I agree that it’s far than a one man show at OpenAI, but on the other hand megacorps full of many of the smartest, best compensated research scientists and engineers haven’t been able to touch OpenAI at this point, even with much greater resources. There is a significant advantage that OpenAI has built for themselves with their research and development.
Here is what's wrong about that statement: Sam Altman did not "build" Open AI from nothing to $90Bn. Open AI raised $1bn from several investors and had top talents. Sam managed the company through that. But I am certain other people given the same circumstances will be able to do more or less the same.
Getting ready to quit soonish and was drawn to this article. It wasn't what I was looking for but that's okay. Well written but a bit whimsical and dogmatic for me
Can you cite your law where "legally" uninstall doesn't uninstall the app binaries???
Based on the amount of comments in that time period that is probably a fake insider.
You think Karpathy is dispensable? I see him and Ilya both as important, and essentially the brains of the operation. Sam was always the VC guy (very Elon Musk in that sense), that came into the company as the non-founder CEO.
If you write the laws you can kind of do whatever you want.
Unfair competition due to fewer environmental regulations and fewer labor standards can be remedied by USA creating wage and environmental parity import duties/tariffs. This should apply to everything including iPods and rollerblades.
I like flutter but I've not seen it work on the web as good as a website. Scrolling is still painful.

I can't work out how to read the comments, not sure if that's implementated yet. Well-done though.
the design language and the consumer software in the Geely era are of atrocious quality

Hopefully the safety, mechanics and embedded software are still Volvo-engineered, but I wouldn't bet on it