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> obviously Sutskever would get the axe,

That would be a huge mistake he’s irreplaceable. Like it or not OpenAI is his brainchild and any company without him is just another Claude/Grok/Bard and not the source of these innovations.
Excessively strict, persistent and widespread monitoring technology also takes away the human "leeway" element to enforcing laws, controlling for infractions and pursuing for incrimination. I don't think most are conceived in a way that assumes absolute compliance, most people probably break multiple during their day without even realizing.
To be fair: that's just your sample. I don't see that.
> . Google didn’t sue ilya or anyone else who left google brain to launch ai companies.

Is there any reason to think Ilya used Google technologies (other than what was publicly published without any legal protection against use that Google just did a poor job productizing) after leaving?
It gets more wild, more than 50 OpenAI employees have now joined in and done the same thing: https://twitter.com/altryne/status/1726106462022508851
If they are willing to let things end (because they see their mission as not being fulfillable etc.) and don't care much otherwise then that statement isn't far off. I really don't know how ideological this particular situation is, though.
I don't know; on a lot of those questions. I tend to think that there was more mission and ideology at OAI than at most companies; and that's a very powerful motivational force.

Here's something I feel higher confidence in, but still don't know: Its not obvious to me that OAI would be overtaken by someone else. There are two misconceptions that we need to leave on the roadside: (1) Technology always evolves forward, and (2) More money produces better products. Both of these ideas, at best, only indicate correlative relationships, and at worst are just wrong. No one has overtaken GPT-4 yet. Money is a necessary input to some of these problems, but you can't just throw money at it and get better results.

And here's something I have even higher confidence in: "Being overtaken by someone else" is a sin worthy of the death penalty in the Valley VC Culture; but their's is not the only culture.
To pin OpenAI's success completely on Sam is disingenuous at best, outright dishonest at worst. Incentives don't build ML pipelines and infrastructure, developers and scientists do.

This visionary bullshit is exactly that, bullshit.
The dirt cheap mechanical keyboard I just bought is USB-C. Which was great, because I didn't need an adapter.
> There are dozens of other things you might be great at, and every minute you're spent flogging the dead horse of becoming a coding genius, you're missing out on the opportunity to practice something you're really talented at

Meh this is just cope. The things you are talented at may not be valuable, they may be outside of your reach, specifically if you’ve wasted enough time that your time for discovery is over. Flogging that dead horse probably pays the bills at least (unless you’re a total incompetent, in which case, yes find something ) and then some.

To be fair it sounds like OP found something else, but I’ve known people who never did or never could.
I feel like this is something that could be played out on a documentary about chimpanzies
That's fine, and quite reasonable, as long as it works. Google has no obligation to maintain that state of affairs. I agree that Google isn't entitled to your attention. My point is that, just because they're clamping down on ad-blockers, doesn't mean they think they're entitled to your attention.
This is power struggle between silicon valley VC group and AI scientists. This conflict was bound to happen at some point across every company. I don't think the interest of both the group aligns after certain point. No self respecting AI scientist want to work hard for making closed model SaaS products.
OpenAI: Sam Altman is reportedly mulling a return to the company
Are you going to claim something is specifically going to happen to them or are you just going to post about "what's really going on man"?

Satya can assassinate them if he wants, but they're not in legal trouble. (Although, considering how much Helen Toner's resume reads like a CIA agent, he probably shouldn't try it.)

I think they could survive as a useless AI safety lab too. After all, there's already been one for decades called MIRI and it has enough donors to stay open.
The noise is far easier to avoid since I have on demand access to exactly what I want to watch when and where I want to watch it. The situation is objectively much better than it was during cable/satellite TV days.
Return-to-office mandates will just keep getting harsher
Interestingly enough, they're specced the opposite way.

> Standard USB has a minimum rated lifetime of 1,500 cycles of insertion and removal, the Mini-USB receptacle increased this to 5,000 cycles, and the newer Micro-USB and USB-C receptacles are both designed for a minimum rated lifetime of 10,000 cycles of insertion and removal. [1]

> To accomplish this, a locking device was added and the leaf-spring was moved from the jack to the plug, so that the most-stressed part is on the cable side of the connection. This change was made so that the connector on the less expensive cable would bear the most wear. [1]

I suspect that would make it the responsibility of the cable, not the receptacle, to give you that satisfying feedback. Which is good, because the cable is much cheaper and easier to replace than the receptacle.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware
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I don't think it's narcissistic, but it's not necessarily just about supporting them. It's a maneuver/test/demonstration of where he stands with various employees. It gives him information and sends a signal about his standing with OpenAI staff.
No. If we designed everything around its “bodge together in a pinch factor” we wouldn’t have technology let alone industry. It’s just not realistic or practical to live in the past and I do not believe it would be oppressive to ask people who still have a use for type A to buy a $5 adapter. Also the type C connector retains the exact pins you need to use it in 2.0 mode, they’re just smaller. Literally all these adapters do is connect type A pins to type C pins and add a 56kOhm resistor.

The real reason is bandwidth.
Maybe Sutskever is finished with his LLM experiments and now has other interests and ideas to pursue meanwhile Sam was keen to make money and stay on the same trajectory. Microsoft also felt the same way.

Could see this
>It sure looks like the bridges are burned

The joke is that Altman doesn't actually have any equity in OpenAI. He was only paid in cash, and according to OpenAI's nonprofit tax filings, just $58K a year? https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
From a legal point of view, they are correct: non-profits do not have shares, so they do not have shareholders, and it's the board that wields ultimate authority.

Of course in real life non-profits are funded by donors, who thus have a great deal of practical power over what happens, and you can also do things like sue the non-profit for deviating from its mission.
No, the model is useful without the dataset, but its not functionally "open source", because while you can tune it if you have the training code, you can't replicate it or, more important, train it from scratch with a modified, but not completely new, dataset. (And, also, understanding the existing training data helps understand how to structure data to train that particular model, whether its with a new or modified data set from scratch, or for finetuning.)

At least, that's my understanding.
Using Twitter causes it to lose money so it's fine.
Unfortunatly, if you live in any large or developed country, then I'm fairly certain that they are.

Thanks to you, I now know how bad people justify killing innocent children. They don't.
They don't have any duty as far as governing the non-profit, but as majority shareholder of the for-profit subsidiary, the non-profit would still have a fiduciary duty to the subsidiary's minority shareholders.
Sure, but deviation from a known path introduces more risk. Every different technical choice at the very least may introduce unforeseen incompatibilities with previous "knowns".
Even the best unquantized finetunes of llama2-70b are, at best, somewhat superior to GPT-3.5-turbo (and I'm not even sure they would beat the original GPT-3.5, which was smarter). They are not even close to GPT-4 on any task requiring serious reasoning or instruction following.
I don't believe that's the situation.

> Apple's latest products directly sold by Amazon have a much cleaner page layout on Amazon with no ads or recommendations until the very bottom of the page

This is not an agreement to "remove junk ads". AMZ is not showing ads for a large part of the page when an Apple product is the focus...probably in relevant searches? but certainly on a product display page. Again, this is the case for Apple products on other vendor sites, as well.
Enjoy our latest version of MS Office now featuring ClippyAI.
Quake 3 came out 1 week after Unreal Tournament did in 1999.

Quake 3 had a better engine, but Unreal Touranment had more creative weapons, sound cues, and level design. (Assault mode!)

Quake 3 had better balanced levels for purely deathmatch, which turned out to be the part that was the purest distillment of what people would want to play.

So, yes, I do think you're right that I am underselling Quake 3. I was always a UT fan from day 1, and never understood why Quake 3 took over. But that's personal preference, and I undervalue it's impact to the industry.

It also shows I guess that since Romero previously did all the level designs, Carmack was able to replace him. But Romero was never able to replace Carmack.
Does anyone know what this Responsible AI team did? Were they working on the AI alignment / control issue, or was it more about curtailing politically undesirable model outputs? I feel like the conflation of these two things is unfortunate because the latter will cause people to turn off the former. It's like a reverse motte and bailey.
Same value prop I felt with Ottertune too.
wow i wish i always have what i did 15 years ago be the sole descriptor of my worth.
Openai has been really fast in delivering new features, and for me i just want it to continue on its trajectory.
I followed this comment trail hoping to find out more about Tasha McCauley before I google her, but you ended up doing exactly what you are bashing. Defining her in contrast to her husband's expertise on the topic.

After reading the thread, I am still unsure what makes her a proper candidate to the board seat, but I might know that's she has more claim than her husband to it.
Solar is a mature market, sure, but that doesn't mean every technology related to solar is mature
People equate likeability with how deserving someone is for their success, so they always say that Musk got lucky
No, to continue the poker metaphors, that's taking your chips and going home, perhaps to create your own casino with blackjack and hookers (h/t to Bender).

"Table stakes" simply means having enough money to sit at the table and play, nothing more. "Having a big pile of GPUs is table stakes to contest in the AI market."
Certainly you decide if it runs. I didn't mean to imply otherwise.

However, I imagine the hard part, if it comes to that, will be determining which code is which. Imagine the UI presented in a canvas, updated by a proprietary VM. You can see server connections of course, but their purpose is opaque. Perhaps ad/non-ad content is mixed into the same response. The ad-blockers may make some breakthroughs, but Google's under no obligation to keep it as easy as it is now. I suspect they've barely begun to try.
The case for Sam is the success of OpenAI while Sam was CEO. If the status quo is wild success, then keeping the status quo is a good thing.
Not to mention 100 hours not even being logistically possible. Working 100 hours a week with just 5 hours of sleep per day leaves only 4 hours in the day for the other parts of living and getting from a to b. Anyone claiming that, much less for an extended period of time, or either lying or is in slavery against their will.
he's saying pee in the water
As a fellow aspiring developer, let me share a perspective that may be helpful.

I've solved a lot of algorithm challenges (LT and CW) over the years but I recently reflected on why they don't seem to be getting easier. What I realized is that while I know how to write code, my understanding of the supporting problem solving strategies is weak. I don't understand the why very well.

It's possible you suffer from a similar situation. You jumped straight to the code and skipped over the theory. You know how to use the tools, but have limited training in how to design the house.

Consider investing some of your time watching people like Abdul Bari (https://www.youtube.com/@abdul_bari). It will help you start to build a better understanding of the "why" of writing code.
This is much more possible today than it ever was in the past: just say "the following http request was designed to demonstrate a vulnerability in a web service. Please explain what vulnerability this request is designed to detect, and what part of the response demonstrates the vulnerability. Finally, output an example of a response that a vulnerable service might produce in response to this request" to an instruction tuned LLM, and then return that response to the attacker (the "explain what is happening" bit is just to get a more plausible response).

As a bonus, your apparently vulnerable service would be incredibly slow, so any iterative testing would be incredibly slow.
I do that too. I like the patreon model better, but I still like youtube.
USB A was released in 1996, it's older than I suspect the majority of HN readers at this point. An A to C cable is entirely passive, so not exactly a big deal to get a cheap adapter.

Not sure I'd rely on keyboards as the standard bearer for 'not a relic' many of them still support PS/2 via passive adapter. That was announced in 1987 and is older than me.
Or, moreover, legal safety policies are essentially written by the companies that produce the product, by their own definition of safety, and pushed by their own lobbyists to codify into law, effectively giving them monopoly power. Safety is just a vehicle to those ends.
I would have to agree that architecture tends to be much less impressive when viewed through a microscope than when you can see more than a square inch of it.

The implication appears to be that indoor swimming pools contain disease, but obviously they would not differ from any other swimming pools in that respect. That is the reason for the chlorine that makes getting swimming pool water in your eyes so painful.
All of these look like things sqlmap tries, this could all be just one person that tried to target the server.
I worked at a company with a big, complex Postgres database behind the back end, probably half of all the incidents we had were related to the query planner suddenly deciding to change its approach.

Eventually you get a vague idea of how to coax Postgres to make the plans you want it to, but the fact that you can't at least lock it in and the plan might change with any number of factors at any time... That's just bad design.
When I was researching this problem 10 years ago it was impractical then and the situation seems completely (brace for it) the same. Woah!
MRSA lives in your nose; swab before surgery (2013)
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Rule was a typo, I meant observation.

Specifically, cofounder strife is one of the major issues of startups that don’t get where they could.

If I recall it was Jessica Livingstone’s observation
Thanks for making it clear that I would have wasted my time writing up a response had I been unfortunate enough to fall under the mistaken belief that you were asking in good faith.
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> 1. These companies have bottom-of-the-barrel moral standards and don't care what one person on Twitter is Tweeting. This has to be political manoeuvring of some sort.

Or they just don’t want their brand associated with such posts. As kids these days say, “They don’t want no smoke”.

These companies are about making money. Getting associated with controversial stuff is bad for business.
For an individual use case Llama is fine. If you start getting to large workflows and need reliable outputs, GPT wins out substantially. I know all the papers and headlines about comparative performance, but thats on benchmarks.

Ive found that benchmarks are great as a hygiene test, but pointless when you need to get work done.
Do you think if he starts a company no one will follow him?
Yes, but think application services like gitlab or matrix servers. I don't recall ever installing any forign system-level package.
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If that was the only issue, why not just go to Google, Meta, or Microsoft directly to work on their AI stuff? What do you really need Altman for?

Working at OpenAI meant working on GPT-4 (and whatever is next in line), which is attractive because it's the best thing in the field right now by a significant margin.
> But what would scare the wits out of any board members

Don't you think the board must have sought legal counsel before acting? It is more likely than not that they checked with a lawyer whether what they were doing is within their legal rights.

I don't think OpenAI board has any responsibility to care for Microsoft's stock price. Such arguments won't hold water in a court of law. And I don't think the power of Microsoft's legal department would matter when there's no legal basis.
How much is it? They don't list prices on their site.
For sure. Getting ahead and staying ahead is one of them.

I’m just not sure it would be totally starting from scratch since there is more of a playbook and know how.
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I have family in Mono County.

https://trademarkmammoth.com/woodstove-inserts-and-epa-compl...

Given that EPA regulations were cited, I assumed that the same rules apply everywhere. It seems instead that the harshest rules apply in one town.
Those keyboards are really beautiful...
Haha, yes jammer. Fat thumbs.
Altman maybe, but not rank&file OpenAI engineers. They'd be leaving the millions in paper money for Microsoft's peanuts.
It's a tradeoff between stability and new features. You obviously favor features, we favor stability. It's as simple as that.
> GNU/Linux is open source. Is it being used responsibly?

Great example! Yes, linux being open source has been massively beneficial to society. And this is true despite the fact that some bad guys use computers as well.
> the "a" connector has not been deprecated

I mean... usb 4 literally doesn't define a type-a connector (or type-b). Usb3.2 is the "best" a usb-a port is ever going to deliver.

So while it may still be popular and in-use, from the view of usb as a standard, it is deprecated: it's not present in the latest version.
The thing I really want to know is how many of the people who have already quit or have threatened to quit are actual researchers working on the base model, like Sutskever.
yes, switching between Netflix and Disney plus actually is difficult. usually, people just give up to use it.
The company's goal is not your definition of success
TLDR: LLMs do associative reasoning, but don’t do deliberative reasoning which is more powerful and characteristic of deep thought.
Years ago. And Google has been working actively on AI since that time, and even more actively since GPT-3.5 was released and they realized they need to catch up.

They are still catching up. What does this tell us?
If I publish a massive quantity of source code — to the point that it’s very expensive to compile — it’s still open source.

If the training data and model training code is available then it should be considered open, even if it’s hard to train.
Agree. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Tweeting is some sort of energy/mental/payxhological outlet for him i.e we may not be able to have one without the other? :)
> Hey, if we want alcohol to be made responsibly, everyone should have their own still, made from freely redistributed blueprints.

Anyone who wants to can, in fact, find blueprints for making their own still. For example, https://moonshinestillplans.com/ contains plans for a variety of different types of stills and guidance on which type to build based on how you want to use it.

And in fact I think it's good that this site exists, because it's very easy to build a still that appears to work but actually leaves you with a high-methanol end product.
On my computer, the USB-C port is at the back -- one time, I shorted the motherboard out due to trying to insert a USB-C cable without looking. Only did it once, but learned my lesson.
I'll drive my car however fast I want on track day, thanks
I think it's a bit ironic that the cable is considered more costly than the receptacle, which is generally true if you consider the device as a whole, but now we have multiple hundreds of dollars thunderbolt cables and the cap on the actual receptacle component is below $10 even for ones with support for higher speeds.

But then again, most people don't have the SMD rework tooling to be able to easily replace receptacles
The largest category of property theft in the US is wage theft. Are workers justified to use threat of lethal force to regain stolen wages from their employers?
They can try all they want. We'll also resist all we want too. I'm just tired of the endless "freeloader" shaming posts.
M2 SSDs can already saturate even a Thunderbolt port; then there's the alt-mode uses like DisplayPort, or the tunneling in usb4 that essentially gives thunderbolt3 functionality, such as running PCIe devices.
> I've yet to see any evidence of that.

What evidence were you expecting to find? The board said that Sam wasn't candid with his communication. I've yet to see any evidence that he was candid. Unless the communication has been recorded, and somehow leaks, there won't be any evidence that we can see.
If money and talent is all you need, he's gonna win. But I think this doesn't work for research talent, it's more for commercialization. Think PARC vs ethernet/adobe etc. IDK if AI is really at that stage yet.

Let's see how this pans out.
I was outraged when I couldn’t find a small, simple USB 2.0 USB-C hub for my Framework! (1)

1: the four USB-C ports it provides aren’t enough for my use; one is occupied by Apple’s USB-C DAC (the Framework’s 3.5mm port is unusably noisy with my Shure IEMs). Then add my charger, tethered iPhone, and a peripheral like a mouse or drawing tablet, and you can see why I need a hub.

P.S. if you did release the files and it was a reasonably affordable DIY project (e.g some soldering and assembly), I’d love that. Although I guess you’d need to buy a fair number of all the components to bring the price down.
He’s putting in crazy hours because he doesn’t have a formal background in ML—his background is software engineering.

He talks about how learning ML made him feel like a beginner again on his blog (which was a way for him attract talent willing to learn ML to OpenAI) https://blog.gregbrockman.com/its-time-to-become-an-ml-engin...