skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think the idea of separate groups within the company checking and balancing each other is not a great idea. This is essentially what Google set up with their "Ethical AI" group, but this just led to an adversarial relationship with that group seeing their primary role as putting up as many roadblocks and vetoes as possible over the teams actually building AI (see the whole Timnit Gebru debacle). This led to a lot of the top AI talent at Google jumping ship to other places where they could move faster.

I think a better approach is to have a system of guiding principles that should guide everyone, and then putting in place a structure where there needs to be periodic alignment that those principles aren't being violated (e.g. a vote requiring something like a supermajority across company leadership of all orgs in the company, but no single org has the "my job is to slow everyone else down" role).
Beating OpenAI in a money-pissing competition is not their priority. I don't use Google or harbor much love for them, but the existence of AI does not detract from the value of advertising. If anything, it funnels more people into it as they're looking to monetize that which is unprofitable. ChatGPT is not YouTube; it doesn't print money.

Feel however you will about it, but people have been rattling this pan for decades now. Google's bottom line will exist until someone finds a better way to extract marginal revenue than advertising.
Thank you - this is one of the few reasonable takes I've seen on this whole mess. There is literally nothing Altman could have done that would justify the board having handled the situation in this way, and it makes them look grossly incompetent. Even if Altman had been engaged in some kind of criminal act, this is not the way in which you proceed. And regardless of whatever corporate structures you have in place, it is the height of naivete to think you can ignore the concerns of people who have written you a $10B check.

I do think this is a shame, because the structure had the potential to allow altruistic people to maintain some kind of governor on the commercial growth engine, but now that will be gone.
The last time I recall the press using similar language was when the subject was intentionally damaging their own brand due to a contract grievance: "[glyph] (the artist formerly known as Prince)"
They should define it, sure. Here's what I'd expect this means:

- Not limiting access to a universally profitable technology by making it only accessible to highest bidder (e.g. hire our virtual assistants for 30k a year).

- Making models with a mind to all threats (existential, job replacement, scam uses)

- Potentially open-sourcing models that are deemed safe

So far I genuinely believe they are doing the first two and leaving billions on the table they could get by jacking their price 10x or more.
Does Disney even need blockchain for this?

It would sound so much better as a pure Disney service, where its just some API and Disney's own apps, licensed apps and such can hook into the collectibles thing with a fraction of the difficulty.
Indeed. EA makes sense as a blog post or a book but not really as an organization.
Example: "People should be judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin"

Saying that phrase, went from forbidden, to controversial, to "you're not allowed to disagree," to "you're not allowed to agree" so rapidly.

Someone who actually holds it as a principle has had enemies on all sides at various times. Many of those who find the phrase offensive are not offended because it clashes with their principles, but because it strikes at the status / tribe signal positions they've adopted.
Discovered, not emerged. There are not infinite amount of species, and the number is decreasing at thousands of times the background extinction rate. Is a net loss for the system, no matter if we managed to discover them before they got extinct.

Of course, climate change and human civilization is causing a selection process that may lead to new species. But the rate of change is too fast for even them to survive to what is coming.
> That is, the board should have realistically known that there will be a huge arms race for AI dominance. Some would say that's capitalism - I say that's just human nature. So the board of OpenAI was in a unique position to help guide AI advancement in as safe a manner as possible because they had the most advanced AI system. They may have thought Altman was pushing too hard on the commercial side, but there are a million better ways they could have fought for AI safety without causing the ruckus they did.

If the board were to have any influence they had to be able to do this. Whether this was the right time and the right issue to play their trump card I don't know - we still don't know what exactly happened - but I have a lot more respect for a group willing to take their shot than one that is so worried about losing their influence that they can never use it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism
I bought an as-is cassette deck and have about 20 tapes of vaporwave and other synth-heavy music

Just like tube amps add 'color' and 'warmth' to sound, so too do cassette mechanisms add 'wobble' and 'flutter' which really makes vaporwave come into its own
I think what people in this thread and others are trying to say is that to run a organization like OpenAI you need lots and lots funding. AI research is incredibly costly due to highly paid researchers and an ungodly amount of GPU resources. To put all current funding at risk by pissing off current investors and enterprise customers puts the whole mission of the organization at risk. That's where the perceived incompetence comes from no mater how good the intentions are.
> But the truth is that the US doesn't have an history of populist demagogues as rich as 3rd world countries. There is Trump and nothing as him before.

The US had a good economy for many decades, while 3rd world countries did not. This led to more desperation in those countries. In the last 1-2 decades, jobs have been shipped from the US to other countries due to globalization, leaving some people feeling left behind. The US now has the highest inequality since 100 years[1]. While not being part of that group, I understand the concerns of those who voted the way they did, as desperation is a strong motivator.

1. https://media.newyorker.com/photos/590951552179605b11ad2f98/...
(Too late to edit)

And, of course, clock accuracy is even more critical now in the age of GPS.
OpenAI is a non-profit, so that is mainly irrelevant.
> It's not a good idea to take in massive amounts of poor and uneducated refugees from distant cultures, give them free money and housing, and then just leave them be.

Literally the founding story of European Australia .. the bulk of poor uneducated landed here had criminal records to boot.

Still, they were given work to pass the time and after a few decades 'free' land (well, other peoples land).

These days modern Australia population is ~ 25% born elsewhere with a fair number of refugees and poor migrants but these are matched with education, job opportunities and initial placement in communities they can establish themselves in.

That support is pretty crucial to minimising friction.
I always figured it’s because HN is run by Y Combinator, a technology startup accelerator, so inevitably many of the folks here will be more pro entrepreneurship than non-profit.
Qatar openly describes their top tier status as having a benefit of "if you want any seat, taken or not, it's yours (unless another top tier person is sitting there)".
The Entrepreneurial State
I think you are completely wrong here. Bacteria are not going to beat a sufficiently scaled AI working at the speed of light. They are just too slow.
This. For the universe to go back into balance, he needs to leave OpenAI and go start a for-profit competitor.

That is the only way.
It really isn't any better when you live here.
It's not a hidden charge because as you said, you can still travel without paying it.

And it provides a method of price discrimination between people who care where they sit and those who don't.

A hidden charge would be if you had to pay for seat selection to sit anywhere at all and it wasn't included in the original price.
Don't even start me on Southwest, where a bunch of people will fill up window, aisle, down the plane, so good luck to you if you board later with two or more in your party.
I don't think history, looking back at this moment, is going to characterize this as god-like powers.

Monumental, like the invention of language or math, but not like a god.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

As a European, I see libertarianism as a right-wing ideology with a particular focus on property rights. Because that's what the vast majority of self-described libertarians I've met care about. I've never heard of Javier Milei before, but based on some quick reading, he seems to fit in this group well.

Then there is a centrist position called liberal, such as the Liberal Democrats in the UK. Their heritage is in social liberalism and ultimately in classical liberalism.

And when you go to the anti-authoritarian pro-freedom left, you tend to see ideological opposition to strong property rights. Those people usually see wealth as inherently authoritarian.
Yes, you are only one data point. Check the views on Ilya's interviews on youtube. E.g. his interview on Lex (which he did years before Sam Altman) has 400k views, which demonstrated that he is a very well known entity in tech/AI space.
That's what XSLT is for though, the display layer should be your browser
The barrage of gambling ads seems unprecedented, at least in my neck of the woods.
Elon at least backs Ilya.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1726376406785925566?s=61...
No. No more Beatles music has been possible since 1980 when John Lennon was murdered.

The Beatles existed in a time and a place. That time and place is gone now. Enjoy The Beatles for what it was and for what it will never be again.

Grimly scrabbling through the remains of The Beatles trying to animate what never was is not just perverse, it's ghoulish.
"You'd think that the progression in computer technology brings you faster apps that need less ressources."

And yet you would be wrong. Because after Microsoft we could no longer trust software develepers, another option is to _not change_ the software when upgrading the hardware, thereby enjoying the benefits of the new hardware. For example, I run software written in the "distant" past on today's hardware, e.g., using NetBSD as the OS. I do not use containers. I do not use graphics. It's "native bare metal". IMHO, it's far better than today's "apps". Faster and more resilient. I can fully separate code from data. IMO, I get more of the benefits of the new hardware due to relatively _less resource consumption_, even though the older software rarely can make use of every new hardware feature.

Early next year Google says it is not going to let people use HTML mode (no Javascript) in Gmail anymore. This is still easily accessed by changing "/u/0/u/" in the URL to "/u/0/h/".

Previously, Google tried to prevent people from using unpopular browsers to access Gmail. As a text-only browser user I needed a workaround. With help from a localhost forward proxy I am still able to use a text-only browser.

Whether this new change will absolutely stop people from avoiding Javascript remains to be seen.
The Inter font family version 4.0
Yes - this can be a big problem if it means that users get a cached response which isn’t compatible with their browser. It can also mean that you lose cache efficiency if you don’t get a ton of traffic - one site I worked on would’ve gotten much slower if they used WebP because it would have increased your odds of not getting a CDN-cached response, and the ~10-15% byte size savings just wasn’t worth that.
Unless one doesn't think at all, or is completely inconsistent, one will have ideology.
Why do you say "non-technical" ? That's clearly wrong. Just because someone is no longer hands on keys, doesn't make them non-technical. Are larry and sergey non-technical? The collison brothers? None of them are hands on keys anymore.

The answer to the question is - even people who don't like him realize he's a smart guy and this was a dumb move, and it was done in an amateurish way by a board out of their depth.
Assuming he sees OpenAI spinning out of control either way, it's probably better to have tried to change it and, if it fails, to at least not be part of the problem.
I would suggest that the polarization is advantageous to the people shaping public opinion. Sells more soda and antacids.

I dont agree its "ideological"; instead it is "tribal".

Ideology: "My body my choice" == vaccination and abortion should be individual decisions. "Free speech is good" == people can protest for and against racial separation or elimination, regardless of the race in question.

As the tribes we see society dividing into stand on both sides of those two examples, and many others, I can't say I see "ideology" as the dividing factor.
This is my biggest problem. I'd be more than happy to pay for a Netflix subscription, but I just don't have time to watch everything that comes out immediately.

There are several shows I've watched the first few episodes of, enjoyed, then got busy. By the time I'm thinking about picking them up again I hear they've been canceled with no actual ending. If they didn't have the viewership to keep going I wouldn't be mad (that's on me, I guess), but if they don't have an ending I'm never going to finish them.

I'm happy to pay a subscription fee for months I'm too busy to use it (which seems ideal from a streaming provider's cost/benefit perspective), but if most of your shows follow this path there's effectively "nothing to watch," so I cancel.
Probably because it was a follow-up post [1] without significant new information [2] on a major ongoing topic [3].

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
They could still do that. Changes to the show's initial set of screenplays could be negotiated if both parties agree that it makes sense. They could even agree to extend the contract beyond the initially-planned duration.

The only hard-and-fast rule would be that they can't drop it mid-run. Once greenlit, they are required to fund the show, and the showrunner is required to deliver it. Just like any other project in any other industry, in other words.
While sounding pithy, this is logically flawed. The opposite of theism is atheism, not agnosticism.
> Anti-abortion law requires there be a state that cages people for violating it.

Doesn’t any criminal law require this? How is abortion special?
I recently bought a dedicated device like that the other day for my kids.

https://us.yotoplay.com/
I don't think the backlash is about one person as much as it is the direction of the company. Doing something for the good of humanity is all well and good, which seems to be the boards position, but I think they really need to test themselves in the market if they want to make something good. And then there are the employees and the investors who would much rather see more money come out of this.
I used to read his blog maybe a decade ago. Some good ideas, and a good writer, but I didn't find much actionable advice or anything.

He was a nice change from the norm, back then.
He does not like leftists ideas (most, not absolutely all) and he is not politically correct all the time when speaking and I donot mean he is right about doing this. Just oart of his personality. Can be harmful for him, yes, but that's him.

If you listened carefully what he defends and under which principles and framework, you will quikcly understand he is a libertarian. That is not "far right". It is something entirely different.

Almost everything he said that looks bad when heard isolated is usually manipulated by lack of context to poject a different idea of what he is saying or defending.

Not sure if translatiins for full interviews of what he says exist. But just listen to the interview with Tucker Carlson, that one is translated and can give you an idea of what he defends that is quite accurate.
So the dude with a billion connections managed to use them to get cash for the startup that deals with the most insanely overhyped piece of technology to have ever been created.

No mention of the people actually responsible for any of this? Y'know, the scientists and engineers that actually had to do something to create the crazy technology he's taking credit for, the noteworthy dude is the generic MBA C-suite type that managed to not screw the pooch when given a team of the brightest minds out there?
"WLKOSR" seems to mean White [on the] Left, blacK Over Silver [on the] Right (3 bands).

The other named bird that was mentioned was "Yosel Wober (YOSLWOBR)": Yellow Over Silver Left, White Over Blue Right (4 bands).

(Or maybe "O" stands for "Orange", but that would mean YOSLWOBR has six bands; however all of the pictured birds had 3 or 4 bands. Also, in these two instances, "O" is always between two other colors, which is why I guessed it means "Over".)

The "silver" band is apparently a metal band with an ID number that's placed on all birds, and the others are colored plastic bands that generate a locally unique identifier that can be read from a distance. The first page of the following reference gives some insight into the band encoding used by a particular research group (similar, but all their birds have exactly four bands), and the second page has examples of unique tags assigned to a collection of birds:

https://www.uwyo.edu/biodiversity/_files/documents/misc/bird...
They were called WinModems at the time because they worked via a driver that required Windows to run. I think Linux eventually gained support for some of them, but at the time it was Windows or fuck you. Which I felt personally insulted by, as a modem of all things should work with any OS that could speak RS232 (which was all of them).

Because of that, and because of the added CPU burden, when my 28.8kbps modem went on the fritz I bought an external ZOOM 56kbps modem as a replacement. All the internal modems available at the time were Winmodems.
Clarification is not "justifying" anything. Calm down
You can see a lot more populists than Trump in US even if they were not elected yet.
And everything Google does is in its self interest or prioritizes its self interest. Altruism falls by the sidelines.
Citation for example of my thesis:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-20/sam-altma... | https://archive.is/sv8SH ("Bloomberg: The Doomed Mission Behind Sam Altman's Shock Ouster From OpenAI")

> At the same time, companies that depend on OpenAI’s software were hastily looking at competing technologies, such as Meta Plaforms Inc.’s large language model, known as Llama. “As a startup, we are worried now. Do we continue with them or not?” said Amr Awadallah, the CEO of Vectara, which creates chatbots for corporate data.

> He said that the choice to continue with OpenAI or seek out a competitor would depend on reassurances from the company and Microsoft. “We need Microsoft to speak up and say everything is stable, we’ll continue to focus on our customers and partners,” Awadallah said. “We need to hear something like that to restore our confidence.”
Kernel 6.7-rc2 release – torvalds/Linux
I would argue having significant part of a society whether right or wrong in anyone's view having their thoughts not disclosed and represented to the rest of the society should be worrying for everyone in that society.

The history of our nature has shown self-censorship usually erupts by the most radicals of that group which is an uglier problem to have I would think than allowing their right or wrong thoughts to be out in the light.

>The other factor is the rise of internet social media, which didn't exist back then.

This to me only highlights the extend to which we should be worried rather than exaggerating it.
I use termux to ssh and attach to tmux session on my desktop. Amazing that it scales well akin to responsive CSS

I had some long running task that required mostly waiting, checking the result, typing some commands and restarting - thanks to this setup I didn't have to stick around my PC
The loyalty was significant. The PR was meh
I think the change is very much reflected from the system being changed to. Javier Milei has not been shy to say that he intends to slash millions of government jobs, but with the important note, that people will move freely before then because of better offers from the private sector. Now you can't say that about the other revolutions we've seen, because that was just a change of hands on power, not a dissolution of it. Even so, I'm ecstatic that Argentina might show this is possible. Hopefully as a great inspiration to others! There will be many fighting against it, but I'm an optimist, and I'm certian people exposed to real freedom can and will adapt.
What's really incredible is Milei's big objection was extreme fiscal irresponsibility, so the incumbent decided to try to bride the country by handing out extra pension money and a temporary tax cut right before the election.
Seems like a pretty crazy claim, want to share your reasoning?
Nah, you can replace Sam with a deity of choice depending on the group, ex. Taylor Swift.

As organized religion recedes, people fill the vacuum with gods of their own making.
Reverse-engineering GPTs for fun and data
I’d love to know what the amortisation period looks like for an LLM.
In that sentence, "is" refers to the loss. The word does not refer to the species.
It's an interesting article. I am at odds with supporting full push to large electric vehicles in the wake of articles that have also been posted recently on HN: https://www.thedrive.com/news/tire-dust-makes-up-the-majorit...

I don't see any issues with the electric bicycles being relatively light compared to electrics mopeds and cars.

I would love to see a full and impartial comparison of all this EV vs Gas stuff, from the methods used for extracting the raw materials to the emissions and to the fact that the ocean is the main source of earths oxygen.

It's insane that countries are fighting petty wars over land claims when the earths environment is seemingly at a point of no return.
> Funny thing is that Argentina already experienced some of Milei's ideas before, under Menem, with disastrous results.

We don't know yet if he will have the same execution. What we know is that the current government is a populist one and has the record of reaching 50% of poverty.
Yeah both AMD and NVIDIA churn out some pretty shit graphs year on year. But! Intentionally!
I don't understand that graph. Why is it so spiky? for any particular year. It almost looks like the temperature varies by ~0.5 degrees week to week. Can someone explain it to me?
Bottom 90% doesn't count as human in top brain communities like this
Yeah, doing that stealthily ought to be illegal - and in some places it is. In NYC, mandatory or automatic service charges have to be conspicuously disclosed to consumers before food is ordered, by law. Conspicuously is interpreted accurately enough that merely hiding it on the back of the menu isn’t enough, let alone not disclosing it until the bill at the end of the meal.

And most other restaurant-imposed surcharges on top of listed food and beverage prices, which aren’t bona fide service charges, are categorically forbidden. A mandatory blanket extra percentage that isn’t a bona fide charge for some service, like handling a large party or splitting a bill, is likely illegal in NYC even when labeled as a service charge, although not as rare as it should be. (Taxes can still be added on separately.)

Sadly for the rest of the state and country, these requirements are just local rules and regulations, not state or federal. But some other places do have similar laws.