skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I’m really curious how about how good it used to be? It feels to me like there’s a cultural resistance to be self critical of the whole, and that is slowing down wide-scale progress.

I moved to Sweden 2 months ago (from Seattle, where I grew up) but over the last decade I’ve lived in Seoul, Singapore, Bangkok, and Reykjavik.
The government here feels most similar to the US, worse in some ways. Paperwork is like a hobby and doing it slowly is almost glorified.

I love it in many ways, but it’s baffling that I still don’t have a government ID, and am months away from getting a bank account. (Which would block me from getting a paycheck if I wasn’t high enough to at my company to get an exception and wire to my U.S./EU accounts. But for most relocated employees, they just don’t get paid for the first few months). The HR here says this is something they can’t change because it’s legal requirements from the government? But they just shrug and say that’s the Swedish way it works because it’s been working. And now I’m too embarrassed to hire the people I need to until I have good workarounds for these processes (there are many more issues).

As a Swede with history of what used to be good, and what’s working in other places, what would it take to get Sweden to correct these aspects of the way things are run?
After reading the title and the first two sentences ("Vertical tabs in Visual Studio Code" and "I love vertical tabs. I use them wherever possible."), I first thought that the author loves using the vertical tab ASCII/Unicode character (U+000B, in C/POSIX: '\v') in his code, since I can easily imagine that Visual Studio Code has difficulties handling this character (I did not test it, though).
The reality seems to be that if you tip below the expected amount, you'll be treated poorly, judged, or berated for doing so.

What's more, from the discussions I've read, the expected amount has increased vastly over the last decade.
How are people having so many meetings per day, they need to complain about it? I have literally four meetings each week: company, group, boss, focus group.

It sucks.

I basically talk with myself to solve problems and see zero appreciation from fellow employees about how it impacts them, or what they’re struggling with or working on.

Not arguing for office life, but interaction is needed to some degree to feel value in the work.

Maybe it’s just my employer that isn’t doing enough?
Not taking the quote at face value and assuming it’s hyperbole is consistent with not thinking it’s actual slave labor. I’ll give ya that.
How does this compare with other countries where gambling is more normalised? Is this simply a symptom of opening something up after prohibiting it for so long?
In Sam’s shoes, as slippery an operator as I’d be, I’d ask a sympathetic employee to register me as a guest just to make that post, whether there were negotiations or not.
Does that mean that the move of the board was actually good for openness of AI ?
Apple has taken steps over the past several years to tie the cryptography in iMessage (and APNs generally) to Apple manufactured devices. It’s telling that every legitimate way of bridging onto iMessage to date has required an Apple device.

Tangentially related: My thinking is Apple’s reverse course on RCS will help them justify keeping iMessage itself closer to Apple platforms, particularly when governments/society demand that they justify their closed access.
Are you talking about backing up the entire utility? Because I have been talking about on site backup. An all electric house is much easier to back up on site because all you have to do is maintain power source(s). Some combination of solar panels, a powerwall, EV, and a backup fueled generator can run everything in your house. Generators are even portable and can be brought on site or connected to local grids.

I honestly can't see the benefit to gas service to a house. I have no idea why anyone would chose it for a new construction in 2023 when we have so many options for electrification. It's cheap now but it's still a fossil fuel and prices will go up over the life of the home. The same way 1950s constructions faced expensive conversion from oil to gas the current cohort of natural gas homes will be electrified, or demolished to make room for electrified homes.
This reads entirely as PR from the VC camp.
Only 3 people are reported to have resigned.

There’s no evidence that a mass resignation will happen.
Google+ was an accessory thing. It was like "ye, we should also have a social network" and it didn't work and then what happened to them? Literally nothing, source: its stock.

OpenAI is a different beast, they (or some LLM) could displace Google as the main provider of information to the world. You just don't know what you're talking about, lol.

1: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2023/01/23/how-chat...
AI for generating startup ideas is better than GPT
Hello everyone! My team and I are working on an idea for an AI-powered consulting model that will be able to select suitable startup ideas and even a team for you. However, we want to find out how people uses GPT to generate startup ideas, could you please write what you think, and if it's not difficult, then go through these Google forms (at least one ...)? 1) https://forms.gle/fYkFPWPbFuey7NyY7 2) https://forms.gle/2T65CX2oUdktT4tQ8
This Mountain Goats song about extinction, and being the last of your kind makes me tear up every time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc_TETgMSNA

Lyrics excerpt:

In Costa Rica, in a burrow underground //
Climb to the surface, blink my eyes and look around //
I'm all alone here as I try my tiny song //
Claim my place beneath the sky, but I won't be here for long //

I sang all night //
The moon shone on me through the trees //
No brothers left //
And there'll be no more after me //
The attitudes I'm seeing in this debate are mind blowing to me, explain to me why you think it's better that the future of AI and therefore the future of humanity is better off controlled by narrow-minded shareholder value maximizing entities like Microsoft or Silicon Valley VCs.

What's wrong with the idea that AI should be developed with the goal of being safe and for the benefit of all humanity?

As for the objection to safe being defined by a narrow group 'great men'. I'm sure Ilya would agree that it's not ideal that such an important milestone in human history being decided by such a small group of people. But what alternatives do we have right now? What if OpenAI decided to turn over their technology to the US government or the UN? Would that make you feel better?
Worst part is their own employees don't care about the non profits value
The opening hours are actually quite good. I haven't found any on the list that are closed on Sundays. All of them are actually open from at least 10 am to 5 pm. And during the week there are also some that are open until 10.30am.
Screw that, everyone is afraid of 1000 vs 1000 unit battles. This is what I want!

Total Annihilation and its ilk balance that by having the commander unit, which is game-over if lost. There are a lot of really underhanded tactics one can employ to sneak a win here. (My favorite is picking up the enemy commander with a transport and then scuttling the transport...) Plus the large army size means the player likely has exploitable gaps in their defenses as their attention is split so many more ways.
Everyone’s carrying a tiny jackpot in their pocket computers. Of course it cannot be effectively banned, because the sacred flow of money from the poorer towards the richer can’t be thwarted. Yay
I follow the rule that if you have code that was written, it should be tested.

> Something that was simply a getter or setter? New unit test.

Bring in a framework to generate those. You shouldn't be writing them, and if you are it's because they're sepecial.
The Bloomberg article about Altman seeking funding for a conflicting venture seems like a plant by the other side:

https://archive.is/3LaJF
The remaining org may likely desicate without Microsoft and other commercial investment and revenue sources, but I don't think you can assume a new entity would be off to a strong start without the IP which OpenAI itself ultimately owns (the brand, the software products and infrastructure, the customer accounts, the trained systems, etc).

Unraveling this weekend's drama is way more complicated than you suggest. Both factions actually have quite a bit of leverage.
What the Hell Happened to Effective Altruism
Every time I see news like this, the voice in me that is saying "timestamps should be represented as epoch-time integers" grows louder. The amount of pain I've seen "better" solutions bring feels like the benefits aren't worth it unless you need some very specific feature (e.g. you're not trying to express an absolute time but repeating calendar events).
The upside of this is that you save $50 on your flight if you're willing to sit alone in a middle seat, thus making air travel more accessible to more people. $50 means a lot to some people.

It's really all about how you perceive this. You see it as a hidden cost, others see it as a discount.
The dude is the CEO. Likely he is a significant factor of success.

Have you worked for an average / incompetent boss? It is bad.
Microsoft wanted to flip a non-profit explicitly founded for the good of humanity into a for-profit implicitly for the good of Microsoft. That’s already a lot of shenanigans.
I suppose I might be conflating some thoughts on identity with consciousness. Say, if a person goes through a teleporter, are they still themselves afterwards? If an AGI is copied, is the copy them? They can no longer be only an individual, but each an instance right? Or perhaps this is a biased anthropomorphic view from the kind of sentience that either has continuity or not
It's a different species, I think a yellow-browed warbler (see here for example https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/yellow-browed-war...). The Bachman's warbler looks pretty different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachman%27s_warbler#/media/Fil....

I can't find that photo on Getty so I'm not sure if it's mislabeled, or the editor just searched for "warbler", or got it from somewhere else and forgot to change the photo credit from an article template or something.

Edit: It seems to be from Shutterstock and is labeled correctly https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/yellowbrowed-warble.... My best guess is an overworked web producer was told to find a photo for this article, searched for "warbler" in some integrated stock photo search engine, picked this one and copy/pasted the wrong credit.
> Imagine calling an entire nation an ungainly bird

The bird was named after the country. And the country after the ethnic groups who spoke the Turkic languages, which derive from the native term Türk, which goes back at least 1400 years. Changing the spelling and pronunciation changes nothing.

Saying that we called the country after the bird is buying into populist rabble-rousing without doing even five minutes of fact checking.
>not sure what point youre trying to make, but youre failing

No wonder since you failed to correctly specify NY timezone in first place. Here's a trivia, it wasn't UTC-5 on that date.
Nothing new, this is how humans function, except we he multiple of these recursive loops running in parallel.
The rise of massive Hispanic immigration to the US is fairly recent [1]

About 25% of USA's immigration is as a result of unvetted immigrants from the south [2]. It is still a minority. The majority come here through family (pre-integrated) or for work (high bar for productivity).

Also, Mexico is not the same as war torn middle-east. Mexicans are already culturally aligned (Christianity), ethnically aligned (massive white admixture) and economically far closer to the developed world as compared to the recent warn-torn middle eastern nations. There have been large & well-established Spanish-Christian communities within the US for centuries, which makes it much harder for them to ghettoize.

My point about the integration force-field still stands.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/20/facts-on-u-s...

[2] https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2020/08/20/facts-on-u-s...
Yeah, I have noticed exactly the same thing in Germany.

There are some nationalities doing low-paying jobs in disproportionate amounts. Turkish for example, the largest immigrant group here. If I divide my current company by "high paid" and "low paid" jobs, Turkish (plus Germans with Turkish background) are over-represented in the "low paid" half (more than 60% I estimate). On the other hand, there are only a handful in the "high paid" part (no engineers, for example, only a handful engineering-adjacent). These exceptions are often people coming straight from Turkey, from wealthier backgrounds, rather than 2nd/3rd generation German-born. This has been the situation in pretty much every company I worked or observed.

With recent housing problems, they also don't have as many options of where to live, so they end up in the same neighborhoods, where they rarely have a chance to speak German, let alone to integrate with the culture. Integration courses are crowded and extremely difficult to get into. If you're working full-time it's borderline impossible to find something after 5-6 PM. Religiousness also plays a role in making integration via integration courses hard (EDIT: but Turkish are more secular, this applies more to Arabs), there are specific classes for women, which is often composed only of Muslim women (since there are so few women-only classes, Muslim women are given priority), so few chances to chat with non-Muslim women.

One interesting anecdote that I can't prove, but I see a lot of people moving to Turkey in large numbers. Some of them are 2nd or 3rd generation and have never been there. Life is not easy.
And in exchange for those rights, OpenAI has certain rights to compute credits. Microsoft doesn't get to break contract and keep what they got out of the deal while ceasing to supply what provided as part of the deal. That's called theft.
Pettiness seems to be Sam tweeting about this. As a person who is, at the moment, not an employee, using guest pass is correct.
Users are flagging your posts—rightly, because you've been breaking HN's guidelines egregiously.

This has nothing to do with the current topic because you've done it just as badly in other threads, such as here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38203707

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38202957

We ban accounts that post this abusively, regardless of how right you are or feel you are. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
I can't speak for anyone else however, I don't think that this is going to become self-aware or alive. I don't have the mental ability to really reason about what any of that means.

My interest was in using this in a similar Vein on how someone might use Dwarf Fortress or rimworld to simulate social interactions. But in this case it would be a single entity.

I would be lying if I said I didn't think that llms are touching some sort of intelligence. And that self-reflective loops might be some sort of piece in the puzzle.

Ultimately I think any like groundbreaking emergent stuff coming out of these is going to be biased by our own language in it if there was kind of any magic emergence to be had. Making it impossible to actually test whether it's the real thing or not.

This was probably just a long winded way to say I'm a weird and sad person
I have more trouble using Amazon's useless filters or finding products that even try to be more specific than just "USB-C".
Local governments would love it if all hotel taxes were embedded into the price.

Travel (hotels & car rentals) in the US are industries where the average tax rate is much, much, much higher than the standard sales tax rates for goods sold in the same location. There are all sorts of taxes at that are levied because most of the customers who pay them, don't live there and therefore can't vote against the politicians that imposed them.
Yeah, consumer UPSs tend to scale their inverter capacity along with their battery capacity, which means if you're shopping for huge capacity for long runtime, you end up paying extra for a huge inverter you don't need.

I've gone the other route, with a simple power supply that charges an ever-evolving fleet of whatever cheap 12-volt batteries aren't doing anything else, which then feeds DC-DC converters for the various loads. For stuff that's natively 12-volt like my wifi router and cable modem, I just run those directly off the battery rail.

This setup is quiet, efficient, and presently runs the modem, router, service pi, and my RIPE Atlas probe, for somewhere upwards of 20 hours, for something like $150. If I added a 12v-to-48v converter and a small PoE switch feeding a few cameras, it would probably cut the runtime in half, but I could just throw more battery at it for pennies on the watt-hour.
All of this is fine if you are talking about timestamps. But Python's datetime library can do more than that. Basically once you get into future dates that it all starts to fall apart.
> All we have to do for any of these is… implement them.

An idea isn't a solution. I don't know what you are even talking about. Until we are actually solving these problems in a substantial way we have nothing but hope, we don't know that anything will pan out.

> Can too.

There is no 100% automated lab. Tools being controlled by a computer doesn't mean they are loaded, prepared and most importantly maintained by humans. And Science requires different types of labs, I just watched a documentary about the making of the new Malaria vaccine, and how challenging it was to produce the ~cup of vaccine needed for clinical trials vs producing enough for validation was fascinating.

> Irrelevant

no it's not. We are so far from 100% automation of anything. Some human being has to install and maintain literally everything in every factory. Nobody is making self maintaining bots, much less ones that can do everything.

> So incredibly and wildly false

Comparing human seamstresses to even the latest crop of Robotic fabric handlers(that haven't seen mass market penetration best I can tell, so are still unproven in my book) is like comparing OSMO to a construction worker. It's not false. That video, which I watched with interest, is not convincing at all, having seen more traditional jeans making places.

> Most of the problems with manufacturing these days are specifically the human part of it.

Because the human part is by far the hardest.

> do actually follow that link I gave you before https://github.com/GT-RIPL/Awesome-LLM-Robotics

Ok and? nice Gish Gallop I guess?
The main question at this point should be whether Sam's model or Ilya's model is more likely to succeed in the primary goal of the teams, which is (and should be): how do we stay on the leading edge long enough to figure out safety. All the adults in the room want safety [1], it's just how to really get it.

There are very wealthy competitors out there, any of which could end up beating OpenAI if they get half an edge. If you don't beat them, you don't get to figure out safety.

If Sam starts another company, you know deep in your soul he'll have all the backing he could ever dream of. Everyone who can sign a check is dying to get in on this. All the smart talent in the world would love to be employee number 1 through 1000. He's figured that you need the money if you want to stay in the game and he's world-class at making that happen. If OpenAI has all the purity of conviction and never gets another dollar because it all flows to SamCo...do they still win and figure out safety?

(Plus get some profits, attract staff who want to make bank, get full control of the board anyway, etc)

[1] We're nowhere near GPT controlling nukes, elections or the bond market, or desiring to. We need at least a couple massive algo changes before things take off. So some speed at this point isn't thaaat dangerous.
In French, they only use the equivalent of the simple past tense in books, but in speech they usually only ever say the equivalent of "has done" in speech no matter the context. I don't speak French (not as a second language nor as my native language), but this is something I've read about secondhand in textbooks and online.

In Spanish, they do make a distinction in neutral speech, but it's not uncommon for someone to only ever use one or the other depending on the region they're from. The auxiliary verb form ("haber hecho" / "to have done") is more common in Spain than Latin America. Though, I don't know how much we should go into this; I feel like we've kind of derailed from the original topic.
A reasonable quality new ebike around these parts is about as expensive as a reasonable quality secondhand car.

And:

1.fuck riding a bike on the road here, half of Tasmanian adults are the type of functionally illiterate arseholes who'd intentionally drive too close to a cyclist for shits and giggles

2. The weather is crap nine months of the year

So the payback period is way too long.
This is the biggest general problem: you can't accurately compare the duration between two date times without having proper context of how the datetimes were stored or generated, especially for future dates. For example, you can't say today what the Unix timestamp will be for 1 January 2030, 10:00:00 AM in Bucharest, Romania. Romania may very possibly change timezone by then. So, if a user sets a meeting for that time, converting to the Unix timestamp according to the current timezone info is wrong. You'll end up alerting them on 1 January 2030 at 09:00:00 AM, or perhaps 08:59:58 AM if some leap seconds get added. Or it may even be entirely different if there is some calendar change for whatever reason by then.

Note that UTC has a similar problem - which is why you actually need a local time string for this type of events.
So you think Ilya will stay while getting none of what he wanted because he still wants to have a job at openai? Do you think he did it with no real grievances?
Propagate your gene line is exactly how we lose, because AI will propagate it's own and will outcompete us just like we outcompeted the Neanderthals.
... workers in general in countries without workers' rights...
It was there.
It’s hard to overstate the pace at which Sweden changed since the 00s.

Swedish culture still values multiculturalism. And, during my 20 years there, I was never able to convince anyone about the dangers of tolerating intolerance.

When you check demographics’ stats, you realise that these issues will be compounded in the future. It makes me sad.
Young Ben Stiller
This guy tabs
They should have been more involved in colonialism and slave trade when they had the chance. They would have learned and wouldn't have these issues now. /s
Yep. Tried as well. Tried a little clip of Tony Sopranos and it came out as a british guy.

xTTSv2 does it much better. But the quality on the trained voices are great though.
He might have meant that there were lower-hanging fruits with which he could have written his theses much earlier and he got distracted by a more complex challenge.
Because they were promised shares for a future IPO?
I don't think that's quite right. Until recently, every passenger on the flight had to subsidize your desire to sit next to your child. Now, they don't. It's a loss for you but a win for fairness in general.

Also, there's always Southwest, right?
I agree. They've had tension between profit motive and the more grandiose thinking. If they'd resolved that misalignment early on they wouldn't be in this mess.

Note I don't particularly agree with their approach, just saying that's what they chose when they founded things, which is their prerogative.
Worse. Which is exactly why superintelligence is scary - it'll make the humans around it go wild for power, and then it will be impossible (by definition) to predict.