skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Many messengers companies started outside of SV,

• Telegram - Founded: Russia, Headquartered: Dubai, Users: 500M+

• WeChat - Founded: China, Headquartered: Shenzhen, Users: 1.2B+

• LINE - Founded: Japan, Headquartered: Tokyo, Users: 84M (Japan)

• Viber - Founded: Israel, Headquartered: Luxembourg, Users: 1B+

• KakaoTalk - Founded: South Korea, Headquartered: Jeju City, Users: 52M+

• Zalo - Founded: Vietnam, Headquartered: Ho Chi Minh City, Users: 100M+

• ICQ - Founded: Israel, Headquartered: Cyprus, used to have big market share

• Skype - Founded: Estonia, Headquartered: Luxembourg/USA, Users: 40M daily
I think something terrible happened at OpenAI and we just don't know what it is yet, we will eventually. But I believe something unethical happened, something that might be even illegal. For the board to remove the CEO, it means that the board doesn't trust him anymore.
Serious consequences wrt the state. Not other citizens. And those can use the legal system to sue you. For "speech" in terms of facts, the state will help a citizen get a retraction and/or damages if the facts were objectively wrong. For opinions, only if they were so crude that they attacked the human rather than the position.
At various points from 1950, the gullible mass claimed AGI.

Who's claiming it now? All I see is a paper slagging GPT4 for struggling in tests that no one ever claimed it could pass.

In any case, if it were possible to bet $1000 that 90%+ of those tests will be passed within 10 years, I'd be up for that.

(I guess I should read the paper more carefully first, though, to make sure he's not feeding it unsolved Hilbert problems or some other crap that smart humans wouldn't be able to deal with. My experience with these sweeping pronouncements is that they're all about moving the goalposts as far as necessary to prove that nothing interesting is happening.)
after i lost everything in the mtgox scandal, i used my last bitcoin to buy a lenovo thinkpad, which i used to learn computer programming and network engineering.
> Why not use some better and entirely open solution, like pass?

Bitwarden is entirely open source?! https://github.com/bitwarden/

You aren't even locked in to using them as the data store.
Cool project!

I guess when different people try to achieve extreme low latency or efficiency, the solutions start to converge into small number of ideas.
Microsoft owns it. I honestly can not imagine trying to build a business on an API owned by Microsoft of all companies.
In some countries (Europe at least) there will also be anti-pollution regulations preventing driving ICE vehicles into cities.

These already exist for large trucks, buses, vans and so on. They are just starting to be introduced for the oldest diesel cars.
> Tinfoil? Hat time

Similar hat: https://twitter.com/8teAPi/status/1725724907722752008 / https://archive.is/bvLVQ
I am a lawyer and have actually fought such issues (freedom of speech vs libel) in court.
Why should they feel guilt for giving workers a chance to get paid what they really are worth?
That's standard "You were too good for them anyways" post break-up speech
Who was that? How are they an asshole?
North Korea making billions from stolen cryptocurrency
OpenAI is governed by the board of the OpenAI Nonprofit, comprised of OpenAI Global, LLC employees Greg Brockman (Chairman & President), Ilya Sutskever (Chief Scientist), and Sam Altman (CEO), and non-employees Adam D’Angelo, Tasha McCauley, Helen Toner.

There were 6 on the board until noon today. Assuming Sam and Greg did not vote, that leaves 4. If 3 voted out, that would have been a split decision. I don't think a 50% decision would have it, I believe all 4 of the remaining members voted out.

That leaves us wondering what the hell happened, and how it came to this? It's not angry tech bros, it's folks who feel OpenAI is a great company poised to lead AI into a bright future with principles and a purpose higher than profit. And now Sam and Greg are gone.

And poof, this human who happens to be female is gone. This human needed to have a statement ready, we're all trying to DM them the same question, why?
"Greg Brockman works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI."

https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...
> since most of the reporting so far indicates that Ilya and the board fired Sam to prioritize safety and non-profit objectives

With evidence, or is this the kind of pure speculation that media indulges in when they have no information and have to appear knowledgeable?
It's possible that he may have defended him enough that the board did no longer entrust him to remain on it.
The interesting to boring scale depends on novelty. Given the ai oversaturation it works exactly as expected.

AI Art is currently in very early stage. In the real art space (3d modeling, sculpting, animation, vfx, animation, rigging, retargeting), it could make huge breakthroughs and multiply true artists' productivity in significant ways
I had an email from openai last night saying I now have to credit up front for api usage, rather than paying at the end of the month. Thought it was a bit odd for user paying like $3 a month for embeddings. Then looked at the news.

I think they have cash issues. Can’t get more uses due to lack of gpu, and current users are costing too much.
IDK I guess you'll have to ask Brockman yourself.
Where does Altman fall on the value of open source as opposed to base capitalism? Like, is he in any way comparable to Moxxie (put controversy aside for the moment)?
Searching Google is not a good source of truth either; especially their infoboxes which have been infamously and dangerously wrong. And if you follow a random search result link - well, who knows if the content on that site is trustworthy either!
This. There were no investors on the board -- as Jason @ all-in said "that's just crazy".
> the main insight was that rather than wait for market signals to then decide what to do, you can precalculate your responses up to and including the actual message to be sent to the exchange.

I saw a talk about this dialed up to eleven: the entire processing occurred in a "smart NIC" instead of the CPU. The response would start getting sent even as the inbound packet was still being received. The go/no-go decision was effectively just sending the final CRC bytes correctly or deliberately incorrectly, thus invalidating the outbound packet that was already 99% sent.

Before that talk I couldn't figure out why there was a market for NICs with embedded FPGAs, CPUs and memory.

Day traders basically subsidised these things, and now they do efficient packet switching for large cloud providers.

Reminds me of how crypto-mining subsidised a lot of GPU development, and now we have 4K ray tracing and AIs thanks to that.
I think he's just saying that Brockman leaving sort of rules out scandalous revelations about Altman being the cause. Think about it. For Brockman to voluntarily align himself on the side of the man before scandalous revelations about him hit the news cycle would seem absurd and unnecessarily destroy his reputation also. Before news of Brockman leaving, I was near certain it had to be upcoming scandalous revelations about Altman.
Well, shit, maybe Altman shouldn't have stoked that by signing letters how about AI was an extinction risk then.
Hope long did you spend reading GEB? I ask because I found it pretty dense and reading in detail I feel like I'd need a good few weeks to get through it while having nothing much else to do. I think I read about a third of it a couple of times. I was enjoying it, but it was taking up a lot of spare time I didn't have!
It is already happening: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38316378
Yes it did.

There was literally no one at the level of Google when it came out. I still remember Infoseek and Yahoo, both were garbage compared to Goog.

I know they aren't doing their best right now, but there is no need to rewrite history. Google was always superior to their search competitors, which is why it is so sad to see their current situation.
Which is exactly why you can expect a good position and lots of benefits.
US Housing Supply – What happens when all the boomers die? (2017)
Nonsense really
Eoops: An object-oriented programming system for Emacs-Lisp (1992)
I have an Irish name, such as O’Donnell, and even in 2023 it’s not unusual for a web site to say “Invalid last name” when entered. Like it’s 1996 and I’m doing a SQL injection attack.
I am reading Abbey Road NW8, a history of the studio and recorded music in general. Pretty good so far in a bill bryson kind of way.
Thread per request can never have better load balancing between cores than a well designed, custom solution.

You are essentially asking the operating system to do the scheduling for you. But the OS will never be able to do it perfectly as it has no knowledge of what your application is doing.

The main advantage of OS scheduling is that you get pretty good results without having to think about it at all. Pretty good, but never perfect.
> Technical know-how is the least of their problems. The tech is irrelevant to me. Facebook's user-hostile and abusive actions have made it so that now anything they make is automatically something I want nothing to do with.

You got it! I have an original Oculus Rift (CV1) and when they were bought by Facebook it was like a kick to the gut. Felt as if Philip Morris or Monsanto bought the company that made my beloved headset. I wish they could be spun off or something so I could use the product with a good conscience. For a while, I could justify using it because my money went to Oculus, not Facebook, but now that they require a Meta account just to use it, no way Jose.
For compiled templates I have used Askama: https://crates.io/crates/askama

My biggest gripe is that when a template doesn't compile the error messages are quite useless, but other than that it is great.
The nonprofits accelerating Sam Altman’s AI vision
They can ask for huge salary bumps which may provide better opportunities for thier families.
Ask HN: Threads in the EU
I always thought Meta Threads is not available in the EU. But I can open the page in my browser in Germany. Was there some change the last days?
OK, here's a stab at the traffic jam based on simply extrapolating current trends:

* Humans increasingly spend time on digital social experiences instead of real ones

* AIs become progressively better at socializing and pretty soon we have AI friends, boyfriends, girlfriends, partners etc. all over the place

* Our reproductive rate, already in decline, collapses to <0.5 within a few generations because many people would rather have an AI BF/GF than a human one, so they never have an opportunity to have kids

* A century from now the human population has shrunk by 85% and we've peacefully ceded enormous swathes of power and responsibility to AIs because there just aren't a lot of humans left

I think you could tell any number of fascinating slice-of-life stories with this backdrop, there was no war, no conflict, the AIs were generally helpful and friendly and patient through the whole thing, we simply decided as a species to commit the suicide which is already in progress and everyone has pretty much accepted that. It's the polar opposite of Skynet and the Terminator

It sounds like a dystopia to us - it may just sound like old history to the people and AIs of the year 2100. I'm in my 40s, I don't have kids and life is pretty good...
Would like to elaborate a bit?

Though my investment will be still tiny at the moment, but not other multi-modal model on the market right is as good.
CO2 is technically not a pollutant though. If I was living close to a power plant it would be the last thing I’d be concerned with.
BYD is so ferociously competitive that India blocked a $1B investment from them in India because it was clear without massive protective taxation, they would run all local manufacturers out of the market.
Well, yeah. It wouldn't have worked if it had been a proper shooter. Imagine playing Doom Eternal in VR. It's going to suck.

I almost broke my TV with Alex and that is a slow, slow game.
Unless Sam is already forming a new AI company.
Won’t this just incentivize people to not get tested for sleep apnea, thus reducing the overall quality of life and ability of people in Maryland?
The content is fine. That's probably because they copied the exact story from yahoo's article.

If you take a look the writing, quotes used and phrasing is nearly the exact same. They just reworded things.
what would you do if you wanna run all this on a web server instead? sorry if thats the wrong question. how does your system interact with say android or ios clients or a webapp with ui
But context windows got to 100K now, RAG systems are everywhere, and we can cheaply fine-tune LoRAs for a price similar with inferencing, maybe 3x more expensive per token. A memory hierarchy made of LoRA -> Context -> RAG could be "all you need".

My beef with RAG is that it doesn't match on information that is not explicit in the text, so "the fourth word of this phrase" won't embed like the word "of", or "Bruce Willis' mother's first name" won't match with "Marlene". To fix this issue we need to draw chain-of-thought inferences from the chunks we index in the RAG system.

So my conclusion is that maybe we got the model all right but the data is too messy, we need to improve the data by studying it with the model prior to indexing. That would also fix the memory issues.

Everyone is over focusing on models to the detriment of thinking about the data. But models are just data gradients stacked up, we forget that. All the smarts the model has come from the data. We need data improvement more than model improvement.

Just consider the "Textbook quality data" paper Phi-1.5 and Orca datasets, they show that diverse chain of thought synthetic data is 5x better than organic text.
Show HN: Open-source tool for creating courses like Duolingo
I'm launching UneeBee, an open-source tool for creating interactive courses like Duolingo:

GitHub repo: https://github.com/zoonk/uneebee
Demo: https://app.uneebee.com/

It's pretty early-stage, so there's a lot of things to improve. Everything on this project is going to be public, so you can check the roadmap on GitHub too: https://github.com/orgs/zoonk/projects/11

I'm creating this project because I love Duolingo and I wanted the same kind of experience to learn other things as well.

But I think this could be useful to other people too. I'll soon launch three products using UneeBee:

- Wikaro: Focused on enterprise. It allow companies to have their own white-label Duolingo. I think this is going to be great for onboarding and internal training.

- Educasso: Focused on schools. It will allow teachers to easily create interactive lessons, compliant to local school curriculum. I want to make it in a way that saves teacher's time, so they focus more on their students rather than lesson planning.

- Wisek: Marketplace for interactive courses where creators will be able to earn money creating those courses.

I'm not sure this is going to work out but, worst case scenario, I'll have products that I can use myself because I'm a terrible learner using traditional ways. Interactive learning is super useful to me, so I hope it will be to other people too.

If you have some spare time, please give me your brutal feedback. I really want to improve this product, so no need to be nice - just let me know your thoughts. :)

PS. I'm also launching it on Product Hunt: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/uneebee
Since ChatGPT is not indistinguishable from a human during a chat, is it fair to say it smashes the Turing test? Or do you mean something different?
> nor can you ask for "a scissors"

But you can ask for "the scissors".

Why does that sound OK but the other does not?

(Not debating, genuinely curious.)
Totally. I'll keep going too. I am just putting a nice GUI wrapper around the new Assistant stuff which looks damn cool. Project is half "might make some bucks" and half "see if this is good to use in the day job".
Twitter rumors from “insiders”
What credentials does Tasha McCauley have to be on the board of a company like OpenAI? I can think of 100s or perhaps 1000s of people more qualified to be there.
> Freedom of speech is by definition freedom from many kinds of consequences.

The only consequences the First Amendment explicitly protects you from are legislative ones. By definition, it only protects you from the government.
Attracting developers arguably benefits humanity, and one way to do that is by sharing profits.
This video dropped 2 weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iqn1HhFJ6c

Ilya clearly has a different approach to Sam
This is like a supervillain origin story, Greg and Sam are 100 % going to start something new now, even if it's just out of spite with how much both seem to have liked their work at OpenAI
A homeless man built a life underground Hampstead Heath (2020)
https://petals.dev/
> I don’t know if people realise that there really isn’t any more prestigious place to work at right now than OpenAI. You don’t leave there for a better opportunity.

My guess is they know something we don't
Or they assume sama being fired means the trajectory of OpenAI as a company has changed or is likely to change significantly?
the ad ridden shitware website filled with seo buzzwords with 100% opacity keywords also isn't a good source of truth. i'll take chatgpt over that.
Important detail: Only Sam was fired, Greg was removed from the board and then later quit.
Source: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
And a new hook:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf_wKkV5dwQ
GTK: Introducing Graphics Offload
Introduced by twitter IIRC. When used it generally means you've hit some sort of rate limit. 429 "Too Many Requests" is usually more appropriate.

The code had a previous (now deprecated and possibly no more official when it was in use) hence the gap in the list of official codes.
The more realistic argument is that AI will be used as a power amplifier by the already powerful.
If they were popular at OpenAI, I would say they have a good chance of succeeding too. They could offer excellent equity packages to all the best engineers and researchers and due to the non-profit nature of OpenAI (and hence no equity), these people might be very tempted to leave.
Nicely written and I can only hope that some young, tech savvy person reads it and realises how persistent "law enforcement" can be and how scary it is to be targeted by them.
Because capitalism is a bad thing for rich people when poor people also get to do it like they do.
If you're just using their completions/chat API, you're gonna be ok. As an ultimate fallback you can spin up H100s in the cloud and run VLLM atop a high param open model like Llama 70B. Such models will catch up and their param counts will increase.. eventually. But initially expect gpt-3.5-esque performance. VLLM will give you an OpenAI-like REST API atop a range of models. Keep making things :))
They're not comparing them to those people, they're pointing out that (tech) celebrity endorsements don't mean much.
Shall we jump on a dyte?
Gets reported to HR for unwanted advances
OpenAI pay is competitive enough (remember the articles last week about $10M offers?) and there's still plenty of room for their stock to go up. IPO or full acquisition by MS would both translate to a huge payday.
Some Microsoft bullshit. I've read an article where they said Greg to be a really hard worker at Open AI,so I can't possibly think of a reason other than this. Maybe they'll do something with Google? Who knows
My guess is that the immediate roadmap has already been locked in up to X months out. So, we'll likely never know what the "changes" will be. Short term changes are likely still Altman's work. Long term is the next decision maker.
A lot of hand waving there. Like I said:

If you can come up with evidence that any significant number of kids are being taught that white people are, and I'm quoting you here, "inherently evil", I'll eat my hat.

Still waiting.
it's hardly believed that Alman was fired by his stand on commercialisation
Jerrrry, thank you for your opinion.
Cool! I actually wasn't aware about NICs with FPGAs on them. You learn something new every day on HN.

My solution wasn't as fast and it could never do what you describe (start sending bytes before the packet was fully received). The market signal messages were actually batched together (usually one to 5), compressed with zlib and sent as a single multicast packet.
Sure, use a different search engine then.

To each their own.
i think its more about nepotism being the child of someone important.
Greg seems to be much loved by OpenAI employees, and generally inspiring person.
long story short, depends on your needs.
for me, after using tools like advanced data analysis and photo recognition it would be really really hard to live without especially the photo recognition since i live in a foreign country. it has become a part of my workflow in many different things and although there are other models like you've mentioned, the overall experience both on desktop and mobile isn't nearly as good as what openai provides.
It's a bit dated, but much more international than you realise, especially if you tend to read at the same time of day.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16633521
We are about to find out if the moats are indeed that strong.

xAI recently showed that training a decent-ish model is now a multi-month effort. Granted GPT-4 is still farther along than others but curious how many months/resources does that add up when you have the team that built it in the first place

But also, starting another LLM company might be too obvious a thing to do. Maybe Sam has another trick up his sleeve? Though I suspect he is sticking with AI one way or the other
Or was it that he's been seen trying to raise money for an AI chip startup to compete with Nvidia or was courting SoftBank for a multibillion-dollar investment in a new company to make AI-oriented hardware with Jony Ive?

A lot of his current external activities could worry the board - and if he wasn't candid about future plans I can see why they might sack him.
Seems to me that most of that is spent on twitter.
> This is because software engineers never actually use devices that have parental controls enabled

Well, I do. Back when I was ~13 years-old I tried to block one of my parent from visiting gambling sites with the parental control feature in Internet Explorer ~6 so they can't download virus, and I do have Software Engineer in my job title. Unless of course by "software engineers" you specifically mean the period of life after one been granted with that title, then in that case you won.

Of course, my parental control efforts never worked. As many security researchers has suggested in many different ways, it is hard to deploy security if the attacker can touch the hardware. One's parent can just pay someone to reinstall the OS, removing every trace of your security measures along with all the projects that you've saved on that computer. In addition to that, the parent could also administer a reasonable dose of beating enough to convince you to not deploy any similar measures on the newly installed pirated OS ever again, and given the fact that the OS is already preloaded with adware and viruses, there is no point of doing that anyways, so you give up with them.
I used it in the beginning, but now I am back to google... I don't think the results were better with ChatGPT.
Could be. Housing bubble happened even though most people lived in houses and still do. It's all in price vs utility. If the former gets way ahead of the latter, and people start trading
just on future price raises, you've got a bubble.
But you’re in control of your information retrieval, you didn’t have an unreliable agent synthesise bits in the middle.

Again - to each their own. But what people use google for GPT doesn’t replicate anyway (and what the Google business was built on) - which is commercial info retrieval.