skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Serious revenue streams like having Google for a patron yes? I feel like the context is important here because people are trying to defend OpenAI's structure as somehow well considered and definitely not naively idealistic. Which is great and possible in theory, but in reality seems to end up with situations exactly like Firefox where the product that is some how supposed to be better/liberating/more ethical/whatever virtue is in fashion/etc. is ultimately only sustainable because of a patron who doesn't share in exemplifying that same idealism.
You could get 2-40 watt "appliance bulbs" meant for use in ovens, etc... and use a RAID-1 adapter* to fit them into a single socket... that'll get you 80 watts of pure incandescent joy.

If you were a tetrachromat, you'd be particularly sensitive to color gamut.

* - AKA "Y" adapter
> I just do not trust some of the newer automakers

I have little trust many of the older car manufacturers as well; GM, Chrysler, Ford seem to be 30+ years behind on shipping reliable technologies like variable valve timing or independent rear suspension. Have you seen the Ford Bronco crash test? The Kia key debacle has only recently taken over the fact that Chrysler was 20 years behind Japanese makers adding chip on key/immobilizer tech. The american makers put off tech like coil on plug, and port injection 8+ years compared to Japanese and European.
In other words “good at being a ceo”
Another analogy would be cryptographic software - it was classed as a munition and people said similar things about the danger of it getting out to "The Bad Guys"
> Nuclear produces more electricity than wind and solar combined

It isn't about "nuclear and (wind+solar)" but about "nuclear and renewables":
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38301796

> energy storage at grid scale is expensive and there are much better uses for batteries - chiefly in electric vehicles

Those are composable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-to-grid
How is Sam an idealist when he refuses to release any model even though the company is called OpenAI
There's been a steady trickle of articles reminding us that China is cutting off western or American access to rare earth metals. And they are the major provider. It feels like some wild jank is coming soon.
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Even Microsoft themselves shouldn’t care about the traders that react to this type of headline so quickly.

This will end up being a blip that corrects once it’s actually digested.

Although, the way this story is unfolding, it’s going to be hilarious if it ends up that the OpenAI board members had taken recent short positions in MSFT.
>> in the grander scheme of things I don't think Altman is really that well known either.

Wall Street Journal front page, top item right this minute: "Sam Altman Is Out at OpenAI After Board Skirmish"

Times Of London front page, right this minute: "Sam Altman sacked by OpenAI after directors lose confidence in him"

The Australian front page, right now: "OpenAI pushes out co-founder Sam Altman as CEO"

MSNBC front page, right now: "OpenAI says Sam Altman exiting as CEO, was 'not consistently candid' with board"

That's his name right there, front page news around the world - they assume people know his name, that's why they put it there.
Sure, they can promise to give him some later. But he doesn't have them now; unvested anything would have expired.

That's the reason nobody does stock options anymore though, it's all RSUs now.
"Never attribute to AGI that which is adequately explained by a regular corporate bullshit."

Edit: I was agreeing with the parent commenter, not being sarcastic towards them.
How would a superhuman intelligence invent a new non-hypothetical actually-working device without actually conducting physical experiments, building prototypes, and so on? By conducting really rigorous meta-analysis of existing research papers? Every single example you listed involved work IRL.

> with enough time and copies of itself.

Alright, but that’s not what you the previous post was hypothesizing，which is that OpenAI was possibly able to do that without physical experimentation.
This is no way to run an $80B company!

This thread was detached. I was referring to https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725736242137182594
Also, here's another one: challenge chatgpt to send you a message consisting of a single character. I got it to do it, finally, but it took about 7 or 8 tries.
Evidence is something observable in the real world. Proof is something in your head.
The American suburbian hellscape is real. I live in one. As far as I can tell the only solution is to burn everything down and start over. I'm open to suggestions though.
Something to consider: the post announcing his firing is now the 7th most upvoted post on hacker news and climbing. Does Sam Altman really deserve that much attention for his role in OpenAI, and is the fact that it's getting this much attention part of the reason he was kicked?

Zuckerberg started Fb in his dorm and Steve Jobs left his mark on every inch of their flagship products. Altman was positioned to be the next "Jobs / Zuckerberg" but I can't say I know he really deserved it as much as people seem to think. Obviously open to completely changing my mind.
The remaining leadership seems to be heavy on doomer / pro censorship ideas so good luck with that
I would consider replacing Sam just on the basis of his baseless, misdirected and whiny alarmism. No theory, just my own perspective.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxury_belief
> if you publish a model with scary capabilities you can’t undo that action

But then its fine to sell the weights to Microsoft? Thats some twisted logic here.
Why is everyone talking about Sam like he's the scientist and engineer behind OpenAI?

I seen people compare him to Oppenheimer lol.

Did he actually build anything at OpenAI or did he just manage it?
Being appointed CEO of the company at the forefront of possibly the the most disruptive tech innovation since (you decide) without substantial related prior experience is bound to result in skeptics. Perhaps it's exactly what's needed.
MSFT runs it on their own infrastructure and gives it away for free in Bing. How come that it's financially feasible for them running it for free and not for OpenAI which has paid subscriptions?
In my head the opposite of fewer (“more”) and the opposite of less (“more”) feel like different words that happen to be homonyms.

I haven’t looked it up but this is unlikely to have been the etymological history — if there ever even were two different words at all, one likely crowded the other out. But anyway, that’s how my brain works.
His previous posts are a mix of all small and regular capitalization. Could be as simple as mobile vs laptop.
Given this sounds like an alignment/strategy issue... OpenAI might find themselves in a big old defamation lawsuit. The press release clearly reads: "he did something really bad but we can't tell you exactly what". People have sued for less...
I don't know but Sutskever comes of like a psycho on an ego trip who wants you to believe he is the good guy.
It's not a big deal, but that doesn't mean people do it.
Yes, but bank switching isn't a magic bullet. The code that runs the engine and all core and currently active functions must be in the active bank at all times. You have to either segment your address space so part of each bank always points to the same memory, or duplicate code across every bank that needs it. Either way, your banks are now effectively much smaller than the real address space so you need more banks and more physical memory.

Then you have to do a lot of work to actually manage those banks. Switching banks is kind of expensive, so you need to optimize your memory layout to minimize switching. Then you have to actually manage those banks at runtime.

Really, it's impractical to have more than a few banks. Expanding the N64 out to 64GB is just ridiculous. At that point, you'd be better off putting a modern CPU in the cartridge, emulate the game, and just use the N64 as a glorified display adapter.
“It’s a good idea to keep enough control so that investors can’t fire you (there are a lot of different ways to do this), but beyond that, it’s important to bring in other people and trust them to help you build the company.”
Amazing. Hyperlinks.
Google didn't 'suddenly' beat out the search competition either. You don't need to. Decline takes time and there are always seeds and early signals.
I, uh, tilt at other windmills in that morass (although my windmills caused me to learn about the financial stuff - turns out certain kinds of money can't be used on certain kinds of contracts, etc.). It's space in my brain I wish I could fill with useful info like song lyrics or something.
It would be weird for this sort of disagreement to reach a feverpitch that would see the CEO sacked without some much better model in the background though.

Like Dev Day was characterized as "too far". How ? How is that interfering with the mission to benefit all humanity? It's all very weird.
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> What IP address is that kid’s laptop again?

Technically per-device based filtering is done using MAC addresses, since local IPs can change sometimes. But even then it's trivial to change your MAC address even on an iPhone.
When you have a board who is out of their depth and no real owner, you are going to have problems.
unfortunately, that is also how reddit roleplay works too.
Absolutely not, job referrals are extremely valuable and probably the best way you can fasttrack or boost your interview chances. They aren't a guaranteed job offer, but they're far from worthless.
What I still don't get about all this is if this is just a case of Ilya deciding to play board room Game of Thrones because he has a different vision for OpenAI than Sam and Greg, why throw Sam under the bus with this line in the announcement:

"Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities."

This really reads like Sam did something wrong and had it coming. But Greg and Sam's statement make it sound like Ilya just wanted to go another direction and got the votes. Why make Sam out to be the bad guy if there was no wrongdoing?
I've seen lowercase wording used by people who don't want to put effort into something. Personally, I consider it a sign of dismissal towards the audience. If you see this coming from someone, it might be an indication they don't case. This is based purely on personal experience.
That list of reasons is a mess with tons that overlap. Sexual misconduct is there like three different ways, plus one that’s explicitly abuse of his sister.
If only wikidata was in prolog
pretty sure not sarcasm
Locations will become more difficult to find once society reaches 30% ev adoption, maybe even less. Much of the 100k mile maintenance programs is because people don't like making the choice.
The news is getting extra attention because it's bizarre, unexpected, and could possibly take down a multi-billion dollar company.
Using data analysis methods and technologies to obtain insights and guide company decisions is known as business analytics. Business analytics use a variety of methodologies, each with a distinct function.
Maybe. We’re also not open sourcing DNA from viruses, how to build nuclear weapons or 3D printing weapons.

I think there is an argument to be made that not every powerful LLM should be open source. But yes- maybe we’re worried about nothing. On the other hand, these tools can easily spread misinformation, increase animosity, etc,
Even in todays world.

I come from the medical field, and we make risk-analyses there to dictate how strict we need to tests things before we release it in the wild. None of this exists for AI (yet).

I do think that focus on alignment is many times more important than chatgpt stores for humanity though.
> If you recall Elon promised several years back that Tesla cars will have replaceable batteries. Go to a charging station, swap your battery and go. He didn't do it. Why?

California had a subsidy for cars that had swappable batteries. Tesla opened a single station that was open by invite-only in order to qualify for that subsidy. Once it ended, so did the project.
It's probably more the tone of the firing letter, with the accusation about some scandal that we've yet to hear about, from a company that from the outside seemed to be at the top of its game.

It's a lot more popcorn than we usually get from corporate announcements.
Maybe "rightfully so" meant "it is totally within Sam's right to claim that LLMs aren't sufficient for AGI"?
You’re right. It’s instead how you run a nonprofit built to further the the vision of a once-in-a-generation ML researcher, without having it stolen out from under you.
It just doesn’t matter what his reputation is if the money dries up. To play in the big leagues you need deep pockets, regardless of how talented your staff is.
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So you're not even using what is the public state of the art and much better than everything else to make sweeping statements on what LLMs are or are not capable of ? Lol
One difference between ChatGPT and people though is that when they don’t know something, the latter usually just tell you they don’t know while the former makes up BS.
Investor anxiety concerning what, exactly?
I'm loving the revival of text adventures, especially in the GenAI area (less so in social media, but, still). I used to play Zork a lot (lol in the 2000s though, on linux and it was the coolest thing).

I've made a series of sci-fi gen-ai text adventure games, https://cosmictrip.space/gameannouncement where GPT is the game and DALL-E can visualize for you, inspired by other similar projects. (the game is a bit buggy if you refresh, and signups limited to gmail as I had to combat some LLM-abuse spam (also why there is no free-form text box right now, as there SHOULD BE))
Why do people always try to argue "The tech can't do [X]" by taking examples from old versions of the tech, instead of the SOTA? It's obviously misleading, but are you being intentionally dishonest? What is the reasoning here in using the output of an older model to argue why an architecture can't do a specific thing?
> I sometimes find myself wishing I had a controller with the same layout as the deck that I could use when I have it docked to my TV.

You can pair basically most first-party controllers for the PS4, PS5, XSX/XSS, and Nintendo Switch (the exception being the original non-Bluetooth Xbox One controller) to the Deck, should you have one laying around.
As a sanity check - when Hinton left google we celebrated it as the faceless business corpo shouldn’t be leading the velocity of the dev, it should be AI pioneers who understand the risks.

If indeed a similar disagreement happened in OpenAI but this time Hinton (Ilya) came on top- it’s a reason to celebrate.
That’s art, bravo
I’d take 900k TC if it required an occasional cavity search
If you read the article, that’s literally what this is talking about. There’s a simple diagram and everything.
This is like saying that Jeff Bezos leapfrogged into being the CEO of one of the biggest and most successful startups in the world.

Maybe he had something to do with it? Maybe, just maybe, it didn't just randomly happened to him.
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Greg was a critically important IC and the primary author of the distributed training stack.
I'm not sure I've landed a job or client in the last 10 years that wasn't through a referral.
This is why I think there are more shoes to drop still. That language is exceptionally specific and harsh.
Isn't that considered deceit rather than lying?[1]

[1] ChatGPT "lying is defined as intentionally making a false statement. If you are omitting details but not actually stating anything false, this may not strictly meet the definition of a lie."
This article has some bugs. For example the open source business model was developed in 89/90 not 2005. The shift of MySQL from LGPL to GPL is exactly the kind of thing RMS would like — he was quite upset when I wrote the LGPL. Etc.

This seems like a proprietary worship of “value add” to free software. I read the German original and had the same impression.
Sounds to me like it wasn't just Ilya, but the whole research and engineering team that was tired of his shit. See: https://www.reddit.com/user/Anxious_Bandicoot126
It looks like they’re actually got full fledged AGI and are panicking.
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Amazon Kids+ seems to work well, almost entirely allow list driven.
How is profit-sharing chatgpt stores benefiting humanity?
More accurately, their lawyers did.
This might actually be the dumbest article I have ever read.
@sama tweets are all in lowercase, except for the acronyms. @gdb has a mix of them.
It’s not defamation if it’s true
I’m with you on this. OpenAI’s board publicly stated that Sam Altman had lied to them, and that they no longer have confidence in his ability to continue leading the company. I find it really hard to believe they just made that up. They could have just said that they lost confidence in Sam’s leadership. But they also said he had lied to them. And that’s a big deal.

This just happened. We don’t have all the facts.
It will be viewed this way by the public, and media, and yes me.

Unless they can bring solid evidence of Sam has some irredeemable misconduct to the table. Otherwise, this is exactly what a coup is, a grab of power, with the current power center, not knowing about it.

The board needs to explain themselves immediately, if they think this is idealogical disagreement, they should come clean, and tell us so. Not some nefarious language on Sam's candidance.

I am nobody, just a user of OpenAI's API. However, if this is how the current management structure functions in OpenAI, I will have serious concern over OpenAI's ability to execute next.

The exit of talents is now destined, OpenAI as a company is hurt irreparably.
Ilya and the board are entitled to their opinions and to act on them, but the whole process strikes me as extremely unprofessional, and something out of the Game of Thrones!
Amazon enters the chat.

Or Walmart. Hell, even Costco could play well here.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2311.09247.pdf
Paper from two weeks ago by Google DeepMind putting together a very good definition that I haven't seen anyone in the field disagree with yet: https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.02462
front-running scoops from journalists?
For more than a century The Atlantic was a monthly — that spacing gave it enough time to write reflective articles.

An insta-article like this adds nothing.
This statement makes it sound like they're confused about why Sam was fired, but Sam's original tweet does not convey any hint of that. Compare:

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1725631621511184771
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It seems incredibly risky to give Microsoft’s lawyers $10bn worth of reason to take a close look at a novel corporate structure and surrounding case law. Why not cut a deal for a spin out?
I wouldn't count on it, Ilya has stated that he's against open sourcing models that might be seen as "too powerful"
Can you learn elixir like that?
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I’m sure he’s not a dumb guy, just disposable relative to OpenAI’s engineering team. I doubt he’s a Jobs-like, indispensable visionary, either.
DoD Instruction 7000.14-R
(https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/Vol... is a good start)

Overseas Contingency Operations - https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2018-10/54219-oco_spen...

Nonappropriated funds (MWR, etc.) - https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/arc...

Foreign military sales / FMS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Military_Sales.
> referring to someone online by their name is considered patronizing

This has to be a joke, right?
Society gives some kind of trust based permission to OpenAI? What?
I follow both topics deeply and I'll throw my hat in the ring for speculation, and that is:

- there may really be something nonhuman behind the uap phenomenon, then wild implications of what it means to be human, what even is reality, etc, follows

- intelligence is simpler an algorithmic process than we thought, consciousness and qualia may be "just" an emergent phenomena
Perhaps it was a tradeoff they consciously made to benefit elsewhere in the design.
They also did the Steam Controller (while the hardware was a failure, the software developed for it lives on in the Deck) and the Steam Link (the hardware there was more successful, but porting the software to smart TVs and streaming boxes and EoL’ing the hardware was the right move going forward).
> If you told someone in 2020 that we would have DALL-E 3 and GPT4 today they would say you're talking about UFOs too.

Depends if they were paying attention. Emerging creative behaviors were noticed in GPT-3 in 2020. Image generation was also getting pretty good by 2020 (with Dall-e coming out in early 2021).

Very bullish 2020 post on GPT-3: https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/06/10/the-obligatory-gpt-3-p...
There's a lot of inventory right now in the industry, so there production cuts across the industry, thus lowering the demand for raw materials, decreasing their prices.
Well, there were some that didn't talk about it, but the ones that did all said the same thing.
Emulators are amazing and these progress reports (and Ryujinx's and Citra's and Dolphin's) are great reads. It just feels a bit icky to see them work on current gen consoles. Preservation is important, but focusing on current gen stuff just feels like they're actively catering to pirates rather than just incidentally helping them.
Well, that answers if we should continue to build for the GPT platform Sam introduced 11 days ago.

Sad. Thanks for posting.
> why aren't the privately owned rail companies doing it already

It prevents double stacking rail cars
Received a refurbed Mac and someone had swapped out their mouse for my rechargeable one... always a song and dance to re-connect every time the batteries die. (I pretty much use another mouse to get to the Bluetooth icon on the menu, I'm no Mac expert.)

I always shake my fist in the air and curse "Eric Seifert's Mouse" semi-silently in frustration!
Real-time fine tuning would be one approach that probably helps with some things (improving performance at a task based on feedback) but is probably not well suited for others (remembering analogous situations, setting goals; it's not really clear how one fine-tunes a context window into persistence in an LLM). There's also the concern that right now we seem to need many, many more examples in training data than humans get for the machine to get passably good at similar tasks.

I would also say that I believe that long-term goal oriented behavior isn't something that's well represented in the training data. We have stories about it, sometimes, but there's a need to map self-state to these stories to learn anything about what we should do next from them.

I feel like LLMs are much smarter than we are in thinking "per symbol", but we have facilities for iteration and metacognition and saving state that let us have an advantage. I think that we need to find clever, minimal ways to build these "looping" contexts.