skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Strange to see this stated as if they were clear facts. Openai when founded had the goal of AGI in mind. That's why they chose this structure so that the corporation side would not have almost unbounded power when the technology matures and the total revenue becomes a sizable proportion of the GDP. Weird and idealistic? Maybe, but also possibly correct. If the only way to get there is through raw capitalism, society is in for a big shock. Bigger than it would be with its original model.
No. Purely because they won't have enough spare cash to do it. Germany is rapidly de-industrialising, so no money coming in means there is no money on hand for frivolous money-losing activities
FYI: I ran my text through GPT before I posted, which is why I could tell you which models read this correctly, and which incorrectly.

You may also wish to look at other responses to my post.
One such alternative is perhaps a conference and bazaar model, where folks are free agents wandering and exchanging ideas. Then only relevant people coalesce by definition, and pull in others by virtue of necessity.

Managers in this scheme may be anchors at port, stable islands among welcomed chaos, steering proposals toward business impact and funneling resources between moonshot ideals and something sane for accounting. Almost like investors, in a sense.

Would this ever happen in reality? Usually there is a hierarchy, a chain of command. Teams organize around products; projects become epics become stories, pulled from the backlog into sprints.

But what if your manager is the one who prods you to check out group so-and-so, looking at test automation, or the documentation Special Interest Group (SIG)?

Granted, a lot of trust is required and maybe this has rarely happened in corporations. And competition between similar projects may complicate things.
SPECTRE: Short Packet Communication Toolbox
Do you mean Godel, Escher, Bach?
Sam Altman appears at OpenAI offices as pressure grows to reinstate him
NASA Tests a Prototype Europa Lander
"Turns out very few people want to lead a shitty life doing menial jobs as a second class citizen. Isn't that weird?"

This describes the huge population of gastarbeiter in West Germany in the 1960s and 1970s, but I am not aware of any violent movements arising from them being unhappy with their lot. (The violence one does remember from those years was from a different demographic entirely.) It describes the modern UAE, where I am unaware of any gang phenomena. So, is this really all that is to blame for Sweden's problems?
The main figure in the article is using hyperbole to show how exploitative he thinks the working conditions are. However, despite being exploited, he is not locked up in a dormitory and forced to work because his "employer" stole his passport, or anything like it.

It's entirely possible that actual slaves are forced to do this work, but the conditions in the article aren't slavery.
A Brief History of Voguing
Well, I think the key think to understand here is that it's not about genetics, despite what idiots keep harping on. We're all apes and a random individual transplanted in another group after birth will quickly start accumulating cultural traits from that group.

That said, culture is strong and it's even stronger in the internet era, especially for large groups of individuals. It's extremely hard to bend or break it.

To that point, there is a great book, Armies of Sand, that talks about a concept called the culturally regular individual.

And the book makes a decent point that the culturally regular person from a specific culture is probably a distant match to Western ideals. And that distant culture has quite bad results in many areas we would consider important for modern society: education, research, industrial output.

I'll let you research more on this topic.
> A week ago I was saying that it's likely the leading AI company in 5 years time hasn't been founded yet.

I bet that in 5 years, we won't be talking about AI at all. Whatever can be squeezed from current technologies, will be squeezed much sooner.

Real AI will eventually be based on totally different principles. Maybe by utilizing the natural intelligence of living organisms (e.g. bacteria).
https://archive.is/AUySW
I generally try to use Docker for this stuff, but yeah, it's the main reason why I pass on these, even though I've been looking for something like this. It's just too hard to figure out the dependencies.
I'd say slightly more. Maybe it's just because I attended a state school, but I think my first semester calculus class was all single variable (20 years ago now, so my memory is rusty). You really to understand gradients and jacobians for ML, which I think was calc III for me. But you can skip curl and div part I guess.
I think part of the concept of identity is the continuity of experience. When sentience arises in AGI, will each chat instance be a clone? After the conclusion of each chat will that experience be folded back in or spliced in some way to contribute to a continuity? Can there be true existence with just a series of temporary frames drawing upon a single state that only updates every few months?
> The board went from 10 people to 6 in the span of a year. That explains absolutely everything that happened at OpenAI.

Could you elaborate? This explains exactly nothing to me.
Musk recruited Ilya from Google to start OpenAI. Musk was ousted by Altman. Now Altman is ousted by Ilya.
6am in my time zone is two different times in UTC. Right now it is 14:00 UTC. But when DST starts it will be 13:00. So what UTC value do you insert into your database for the opening time of the coffee shop? And how do you convert?

Yes, you can store additional information to decipher the meaning of a UTC time but why? Storing locale is good because sometimes you need to know where something is, such as when converting the local time to another zone. But you should avoid creating dependencies between these values because it makes using them individually harder.

The coffee shop opens at 6am. That is an unambiguous fact. The coffee shop is in Seattle, WA. That is another unambiguous fact.

If the time is in UTC then you need to know the date the time was set or store a dtc flag and then build some logic to convert. You can just feed local time+locale into any datetime library and get whatever you need.

UTC is great for a lot of things. Such as recording when something happened. But local time has a place as well.
You know what? Good on them! We should all just use UTC everywhere and adjust business hours accordingly. Get rid of timezones altogether.

If you want to know when the sun rises, sets, or is at its apex just look it up in a table. The former two vary unless you are very close to the equator anyway, and the latter is off by an hour for every country using "daylight saving time" for half the year. Never mind countries that span more than 1/24th of the globe but use a single timezone, and that isn't just China.

Also I don't really see how this is "for the convenience of the ruling elite". I'd be willing to bet money most people in Xinjiang wouldn't have this "problem" in their top ten. Probably not even top hundred. This seems like something you get used to once and then never think about again unless you travel or have a remote meeting.
The fax machine also played a role in bringing down the Iron Curtain
Why would the board agree to all that? If they are worried about the direction Altman is taking OpenAI, then surely the price for Altman’s return is a strengthening of the current structure and some guarantees from Altman to slow down, not a weakening and hollowing out of the structure.
I knew about this one, but was turned off by the review talking about the base CPU isn't enough, requiring a subscription.
If I were trying to come up with a word for paying people, the first thing I would do is exclude all the words that explicitly mean not paying people.
They would want a lot of control over the company
Have you looked at various leaders in places like France, the Netherlands, the UK, Germany?!?
You can even measure the temporal widths of what you call frames now by fMRI and other methods—about 300 millisecond slabs of real time but much blurrier in the CNS’s temporal integration/processing timebases.
I fully agree. Globally highly multicultural countries tend to be less stable on average, and it makes perfect sense if we consider basic human biology. We are tribal animals, it's hard to get around that.

Places like Sweden will have it even worse than the US, because migrants need to learn a fully new language to fully integrate, while most migrants to the US have at least some English skills to begin with.
What's GEB?
They were living in a bubble, so "known better" was not possible. Even today some of them are still inside.
> but that’s not something that will happen unilaterally and will be an especially hard sell at extreme latitudes.

Not unilaterally per se, but EU parliament did vote to end it in ... 2021 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20190321IP... . COVID kind of put those plans on the backburner.

People at extreme latitudes should not care much, since for them DST does close to nothing.

The parent's proposal is actually quite sound. It would be a lot more useful to have institutions switch their starting times for part of the year when it makes sense for them, rather than forcing a one-size-fits-all solution on everyone. Countries at different latitudes would be free to switch e.g. school start times at different dates depending on when sunlight shifts too far in one direction, while keeping their clocks synchronised with astronomical time. Heck, Spain basically does that already, since they're on the wrong timezone (geography dictates they should be on British time, but because of events in the '40s, they're on Central European time) - so they do everything one hour "later".
> "showing the proper price is too hard."

And yet somehow it's always possible to have the proper price ready when billing your card.

Here (Australia) if a manufacturer or dealership advertises a car at a price, they have to sell the car for that price and no more if someone shows up at your showroom. In practice this does make life complicated, I worked on Toyota's website a decade or so back, and there was a quite complex attempt to geo locate users so we could know which state they were in, because each state has different registration/insurance/on-road-costs, so depending where you were, we had to show a different final price. (It was usually only a few hundred dollars difference, and we also went out of our way to ensure we listed how much was state government fees and how much was the dealership pricing.)

(There was an "incident" before my time there, where the web agency fucked up and advertised RAV4s for way below the real price, and half a dozen people worked it out and showed up at dealerships with printouts of the web advertised price and got a RAV4 for a _lot_ below retail price. Toyota ended up making the web agency pay to difference, which was well into 6 figures. But they were getting billed close to 7 figures a month for the website, so...)
It seems somewhat clear that at the end of the day there are two camps, Ilya and Sam.

Sam is backed by investors who are looking for returns, and are not sure if Ilya will get them the same juicy 100X.

So, if Sam comes back, then I’m pretty sure Ilya will go on his own. Whether he will focus on GPT or AGI or ?, is anyone’s guess, as is how many from OpenAI will follow him as everyone loves money.

EDIT: Ilya should have no trouble finding benefactors of his own, whether they are one of the FAANGs or VCs is TBD.
And I value 2 billions more as well.

And 2 billions more.

And...
What cultures are you referring to?

There is no culture that is incompatible with the "european" culture (whatever the hell that is supposed to be - each euro country has a very different culture as you pointed out.)

Who comes to Europe that does not value European values?
What are European values in your opinion?

Without you being clear on those things, I immediately think this is a thinly veiled xenophobic or racist dogwhistle.

Fellow European here, so would love to hear more about what you think European culture is.
Rumor already has it that the "safety" board members are all resigning to bring Altman and the profit team back. When the dust settles, does profit ever lose to safety?
I wasn’t quite as blown away by the outputs shown as the author appears to have been.

Unless I’ve misunderstood the configuration of the system, there is a large amount of “hidden” base prompt that GPT-4 will see before it gets to this one, am I correct?

For me, its tendencies towards poetry, plants, finance, whatever are equally (if not more) likely to just be correlated with its base prompt plus the configured temperature as they are any sort of self-awareness etc.

It just feels like more of the same we are used to.
I think it is interesting because of it being a primary source rather than a second hand report, and it is timely. But I get that HN isn't supposed to be a live news channel.
I can see a future where the label "100% narrated by a human" (and similar in other industries) will be a thing
pretty sure that's the reason Anthropic exists, so Ilya would probably just go there. This isn't the first clash over AI safety Altman has caused
If the market opens at 9am New York time then that’s not the same as storing 1400 utc. An law could be passed to change the offset on a given day

You have to store time in the relevant geographic time zone. Something occurring at 1200UTC on dec 1st is not the same as something occurring at 1200Europe/London on dec 1st. The two times may coincide today, but if the U.K. government decides to implement daylight saving next week as a fuel rationing measure, then your 1200London event will have to be displayed at 1300UTC, but your 1200UTC event would be at 1200UTC.
I think you mean for CDN-cached content, right?

The accept header is passed along, so your server can respond however it wants for dynamic content/not cached by CDN.
I did say “compare”.
I don't have a source. I just think that the habitat loss from roads/parking lots is massive, pavement changes watersheds, tires cause massive pollution, rubber farms and plants are disgusting, iron ore mines are disgusting, rare earth mineral mines are disgusting, the money we'd spend on building/buying/maintaining cars and their infrastructure is an unimaginable blunder (literally trillions), waste cars are a disaster. Like if something came from space and forced this on us it would be a total catastrophe. Us choosing it doesn't change that fact.
Thanks! Macroexpanded:

The Myth of RAM (2014) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12383012 - Aug 2016 (277 comments)
I noticed on the prerequisites page

> basics in signal processing (Fourier transform, wavelets).

Are wavelets really basics in signal processing? We definitely didn't cover this my signals and systems class in EE in either grad school or undergrad.
Ilya has worked for Elon in the past without incident. I doubt it would be a problem.
Apologies! Irony not lost.
It's not xenophobia to point out that a nation's migration policy is failing, when it obviously is. It's a systemic issue, not some cultures or people being better or worse.
I agree with you that I think there is some fundamental truth with humans not being any different than animals, or really plants, etc for that matter. That life is a stubborn, collective, anti-entropic force fighting - for a bit at least - against the cold eventuality of the universe. And in that picture it’s difficult to place humans as logically superior to or separate from any other force of life.

On the other hand, I have a hard time squaring that with practical morality. If all life is equally valuable, we all commit the crime of murder just to eat and survive. That does not feel quite right. And if we say that life is maybe not so valuable, then does it mean the crime of murder itself is not wrong? I think that also doesn’t feel right.

So maybe it’s not that all life is equally valuable, but rather life is valuable. Equality is a human construction, after all - unchecked nature is much more vicious in dealing with inequality in the margins. Life consumes life, that is how it is. It is a cycle that doesn’t quite repeat, and there is no destruction of life in sustenance, only transformation.

And maybe that is what happens when one species - or a million - dies out. Perhaps that is nature’s brutal callousness in action, and as such is a perfectly natural thing to happen. I don’t think I quite like that either.

Every time I have a deep think on the way things are, I’m reminded of the Buddhists, who I think found at least some truth in it all: “life is suffering”. I’m not sure there’s much more to it than that.
> You can deport someone who just got there[..]

In most cases, you cannot. That is a large part of the issue.
It really makes you think, what if we are in a simulation and Roko is torturing us by making us read comments online
There has been a huge cultural shift in tech towards devaluing builders and (excessively) emphasising the roles of operations and sales.

In reality you need all of them, and they are all separate talents, but things are clearly unbalanced.
He left because they didn't allow him to be in charge.
> The US also heavily vets its immigrants (unlike Sweden) and places the most oppressive integration-force-field second only to France. The air you breathe (Media), the carrot (The American dream) and the stick (the English language) all perfectly align to facilitate integration of the 2nd generation born into the US.

Most of America's immigration comes from the southern border and is completely unvetted. Your thoughts on integration also don't align with reality.

Edit: participating in this thread has resulted in the moderators of this site applying a rate limit to my account, so I can no longer reply.
Fwiw, gets() was actually removed in C11 because of it's inherit security problems. :)

But aside from that, I think it's just a different style. Waiting 10 years from deprecation to remove a deprecated thing might be required with C just because of how prevalent C is and how much the developers in that have to think about basically every platform, but removing something on a major release isn't inherently bad, it's just a different tradeoff (being able to move a bit faster and fix some design issues vs. being very very good at backwards compat)

The deprecated function can obviously be reimplemented pretty easily, but so can gets(). With utcnow(), it had some unfortunate effects in that it didn't really do what people thought it did, and because of that, most of the uses were basically bugs to begin with.

(Having experience with .NET for example, you'd think that DateTimeOffset.UtcNow and datetime.utcnow() are semantically similar, but the problem is that utcnow() doesn't actually have a timezone attached to it. Adding one would also be a breaking change, and one that is more subtle.)
Lists can't be Show HNs. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.

I've taken "Show HN" out of the title now.
Patterns for Managing Source Code Branches (2020)
> wow, the pile-on is real tonight.

My intent isn't to "pile-on"; it's to provide insight into the issues people have with Matrix. I understand that it's your creation, but judging by this and the GitHub thread, it seems like you get quite defensive in these situations. Ultimately, these are valid criticisms of the platform; people aren't personally attacking you or the project. Personally I commend what you've created.

> I suggested that GrapheneOS stopped enumerating potential ways to attack Matrix rooms on Twitter if they actually wanted to discourage attacks.

Well, the issue was posted above. The Graphene guy posted it on Twitter, and by doing so you claimed he "slagged [you] off"[0].

> Meanwhile, that issue has not remotely been abandoned, and has continued to be worked on in private (given the risk it might have security impact) - although as it's a rare edge case without a known security impact, it's competing with a lot of the other work we do to support Matrix, hence slow progress; especially with highly constrained funding.

This is the part I don't understand. If you're working on it in private, you acknowledge it may be a security risk (plus your use of the word "attack"), but you've also de-prioritized it because it's not a security risk?

[0]: "what the hell is this? We have burnt a bunch of time investigating this and trying to help you on this today, and in return we get slagged off on twitter?!" https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/14481#issuecomm...
> But good luck with that in the real world, as you can see from the unfolding mess.

Any board member who defends a non-profits mission at the cost of being systemically assailed by "Reputation Management" consultants, the venture class and fellow travelers has my respect.

I expect to see more hit pieces by pet journalists, blog posts and vituperative opinion-column articles sent in on Sand Hill Road letterheads.
OpenAI Mystery: Connecting the Dots
It's how whole industrial sectors become enshittified.
This is why, when you claim to be running a non-profit to "benefit humankind," you shouldn't put all your resources into a for-profit subsidiary. Eventually, the for-profit arm, and its investors, will find its nonprofit parent a hindrance, and an insular board of directors won't stand a chance against corporate titans.
YouTube releases new rules for all AI video creators
Only if we define safe as "controlled by Ilya and/or some clique of 'great men'". But at least they are good at PR. After all, who could say something against safety?

And no, I also don't believe that Sam A. has my best interests at heart, but at least he doesn't hide behind "safety" to pretend otherwise.
Agree with that. Upvoted for the visibility. This issue has going on for years. No more excuses
How would you compare mistral-7b-instruct 16fp (or similar 7b/13b model like llama2 etc) to Yi-34b quantized?
Comments moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38337395.
Ilya if he wants to fight will probably just hire Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz. the teams on both sides will be lawyers, not vc’s or engineers.
When I built a live clock for some new CasparCG based graphics for a major TV program out of singapore some years back, a colleague reviewing it in London tried to trick it with a Nepal offset — apparently they’d run into an issue with the Viz system they used in 2015 when there were a lot of lives from Nepal.

Obviously it worked fine, as did Chatham Island.
Paul Graham: Nonprofits Are a Magnet for Sociopaths
IMHE at YC, I'd put my money on whichever talked a more monetizable game.
> Why would the board agree to all that?

Because if they don't agree, then all their best employees, and probably also their Azure cloud credits, will leave to join Sam and Greg at a new company picking up right where they left off.
Under the category of "Rube Goldberg Machines", I'd add this classic retro game for the kids:

The Even More Incredible Machine: https://playclassic.games/games/puzzle-solving-dos-games-onl...
Yeah, densest book I've ever attempted. Yes, the language could be considered terse, but what is the biggest hurdle for me is some math concepts that I need to develop an intuition for.
Looks like pretty much everyone has fallen victim to such fees. Next time you should consider disputing the charge because it's basically all we can do at the individual level.