skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Even smart, savvy, and self interested people can't always predict what individual humans are going to do. It's certainly an interesting wrinkle, but I don't think it's relevant to the limited scope of the analysis I've presented here.
So it looks like they did something good.
2024 for OpenAI is looking bleak.
Not quite accurate.

OpenAI is set up in a weird way where nobody has equity or shares in a traditional C-Corp sense, but they have Profit Participation Units, an alternative structure I presume they concocted when Sam joined as CEO or when they first fell in bed with Microsoft. Now, does Sam have PPUs? Who knows?
Tried the vertical mouse, but no help. My wrist seems to be permanently fucked. I use a trackpad 100% now, no problems.
There is no legal justification for ever saying those dates, much less their department and role. I have never heard of any HR department saying anything of the sort, even if this is an oft-quoted meme of HR. I suspect you have actually never worked in HR to provide such statements, you are merely speculating.
Have you used Google meet though? Even teams isn't that bad.
"I am currently on leave from MIT and spending it at OpenAI."

https://madry.mit.edu/
Non english speaker here. One use which I’ve encountered recently and seems off to me, is when people say something like: I’ve apples in my bag. Is this correct? I’ve grown up using ‘ve only for shortening the past perfect (or whatever verb form is that, excuse my grammar, school was a long time ago)
He can't. That capacity is sold. He is not going to get his company sued for a breach of contract for a personal favor.
I don't think they have to keep COBOL devs in cryostasis. Some sufficiently motivated individual could likely learn it today. There are even programmers alive right now that would see a large legacy system and not immediately suggest a rewrite on their first day. It's rare but it can happen!
Wait to see if Elon actually files it.

This is not the first time he's threatened to sue.
> Above everything, including profit, X works to protect the public's right to free speech

Such a blatant lie. Musk isn't interested in your rights or freedoms:

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/rcna81961

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/15/twitter-s...

Instead of launching a lawsuit, Twitter should focus on more practical matters like paying its rent:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64381582

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-lawsuit-he...

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/elon-mu...
Perhaps you could argue that he wants to stick with Sam and the others because if they start a company that competes with OpenAI, there’s a real chance they catch up and surpass OpenAI. If you really want to be a voice for safety, it’ll be most effective if you’re on the winning team.
My contrarian view is that the Magic Mouse _can_ be ergonomic as long as you use to be keyboard-centric and treat the Magic Mouse primarily as an extra-large scroll wheel. Then you'll find the scrolling experience with the Magic Mouse is even better than one with a traditional mouse or a trackpad because you can speed-scroll with any finger, at any angle, and with minimal frictions. I especially enjoy scrolling with the right tip of my ring finger.
When will we see any consumer products utilizing sodium ion batteries at this price point? A 10kwh battery for less than 1000 USD certainly would change a lot of calculations around home solar.
Sorry, it's their HN usernames.
@Cwalv is still right. Especially if you value sustainability higher than the manufacturer's share price. And you should always do that.
> Microsoft has no ownership stake in OpenAI Inc.

Microsoft has an influence over fking governments. It doesn't need to have an official board seat. It doesn't even need to ask what they want directly. It's enough for people in power to be aligned with their interests.

I'm not saying that's the case here, just pointing that having no ownership or board member in an entity doesn't rule out having power or influence.
No. More than that, comes off as patronizing to start a comment with the other person's first name when speaking, off-line, face-to-face, unless you're their spouse, parent, or in some other close relationship.
What are some pain points u faced as a blogger?
Google Meet is quite good, much better than Teams, IME.
"how this guy could achieve this much"

With all the wisdom that I have gathered in life, I can tell you that achievement- more often than not- is mostly the product of circumstances.

(That doesn't mean I believe in equal opportunities leading to equal outcomes.)
Are those the first cracks in the AI market bubble?
Hi dndr, Thanks for your comment. I will fix these issues soon.
His timeline.
> The companies that have had the biggest impact and created the most value have had excellent board members (and executives).

It's easy to say in hindsight that a board member was good, after the company has succeeded. Harder to tell in advance.
is this current era of stevejobs fired by apple?
I just asked it, and oddly enough answered both questions, listing items and adding "It's important to note that opinions on the success and impact of these actions may vary".

I wouldn't say "refuses to answer" for that.
He also announced that supporting "decolonization" is grounds for suspension today: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1725645884409401435
It's linking to itself. I think there were more minorities killed in India before this-- right now, I think it's very easy to post if anyone (including the government) is doing something wrong online. This accountability where everyone has a camera was not possible earlier.

India has a lot of people, and a 20th century police force attempting to deal with 21st century problems. There used to be sandbags and MG nests at all the airports and train stations because of potential terror attacks.

Now they are just cameras, which is an improvement. You have to keep in mind that people in India have only recently gotten access to the Internet and not all of them have internet literacy.

It is very challenging for the government to handle and very tempting for it to take authoritarian steps to control its citizens in lieu of education.

India does not restrict information from its citizens, but like most of the countries (including the United States and European countries), its agencies like CDOT and CDAC conduct surveillance like our government. Is this a good thing? No. But it's going to happen, and it's a good thing to keep the government in check when they exercise their surveillance power.

I suppose going to the media is a facet of that. The fact that someone can do this so openly without fear is proof that they really don't have much to fear from the Indian government.

As long as you didn't try to blow up an Air India plane in the 1980s, flee to another country and get cozy with the current prime minister's father, you don't need to worry about Ajit Doval sending technical support to your address.
It's not the first name alone, it's also the sentence structure. "Hey John, did you hear about..." sounds perfectly normal even when talking on-line to strangers. "John, you misunderstand..." is appropriate if you're their parent or spouse or otherwise in some kind of close relationship.
No. Look at examples where people hurl veiled threats at dang. They almost always use his real first name. It's a form of subtle intimidation. That kind of intimidation, whether the users real name is incorporated into their username in some way or they're using other open source intel goes back to the early days of the internet.
Well, he tweeted that once he “goes off” the board won’t be able to do anything about it, because he never owned any equity. That’s how I read it.
We need to know why he was let go. All else is speculation. I doubt people would follow Sam if he was let go for a good reason.
Apple without Woz did fine. Apple without Jobs not so much.
What a gem. I am out of popcorn. BRB:)
I hope this is the truth, it would give me a little more faith in humanity than I currently have
You never woke up after your parents went to bed to watch TV? With cable you could sometimes get a clear spot in the scrambled channels.

And I assume you were not a latchkey kid, alone for hours before an adult came home?

Never left unattended for hours when a 7 year old? (When sick, and both parents need to work; or on Saturday if one parent is running errands and the other handling lawn care; or any of many situations I can think of.)

And from a rich enough family that could afford a personal device for each kid? (And no one shared or "borrowed" devices?)

Where do you even get a computer these days with zero internet access? What software will the kid use?

Your router log only handles questionable domains. Logging doesn't handle most of the issues mentioned in the article, like not wanting your 6 year old to see the "headlines of the day about how the world is on fire", or not wanting your kids to download something from the Microsoft Store.
Ubuntu terminal apt will gladly show ads for Ubuntu Pro subscription, as an example.
As I said in the other thread, this is 100% a AI doomerist hijack.
Helen Toner is well-known as well, specifically to those of us who work in AI safety. She is known for being one of the most important people working to halt and reverse any sort of "AI arms race" between the US & China. The recent successes in this regard at the UK AI Safety Summit and the Biden/Xi talks are due in large part to her advocacy.
She is well-connected with Pentagon leaders, who trust her input. She also is one of the hardest-working people among the West's analysts in her efforts to understand and connect with the Chinese side, as she uprooted her life to literally live in Beijing at one point in order to meet with people in the budding Chinese AI Safety community.

Here's an example of her work: AI safeguards: Views inside and outside China (Book chapter) https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/97810032...

She's at roughly the same level of eminence as Dr. Eric Horvitz (Microsoft's Chief Scientific Officer), who has similar goals as her, and who is an advisor to Biden. Comparing the two, Horvitz is more well-connected but Toner is more prolific, and overall they have roughly equal impact.
Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?
yes regenerative braking is a holy grail. Unfortunately current (haha) car implementations have some corner cases that might be a safety hazard in a truck.

EVs nowadays cannot absorb so much electricity with a cold battery or a full battery. Even during ideal battery conditions, I think a fully loaded tractor trailer on a hill could easily overwhelm even a large battery.

I think the solution is some sort of hybrid system:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_braking

like maybe dumping energy into the battery, then overflow into banks of resistors, and then a fallback to friction brakes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_braking#Rheostatic_bra...
Actually the genome for viruses, and bacteria, does seem to be open. Here is an FTP server where you can download a bunch of different diseases.

https://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/genomes/genbank/
It's mostly a thing among the youngs I feel. Anybody old enough to remember the same 'OMG its going to change the world' cycles around AI every two or three decades knows better. The field is not actually advancing. It still wrestles with the same fundamental problems they were doing in the early 60s. The only change is external, where computer power gains and data set size increases allow brute forcing problems.
Chances are it wouldn’t even be a car car, more like a “truck” (SUV, crossover). Something high off the ground with reduced ground level visibility, insanely safe for the driver so they feel safe driving at higher speeds.

Vehicles which also tend to be highly popular with families. The tragic irony.
How can you protect free speech by standing with the company trying to use state violence to stifle free speech?
Lots of variables at play here, so obviously this isn’t a perfect comparison. But… BYD has a presence in Australia. Cheapest car here is AUD$39K. Meanwhile a Tesla Model 3 starts at AUD$69K.
Both factions in this appear publicly to see AGI as imminent, and mishandling its imminence to be an existential threat; the dispute appears to be about what to do about that imminence. If they didn't both see it as imminent, the dispute would probably be less intense.

This has something of a character of a doctrinal dispute among true believers in a millennial cult
My 2 cents: I had rsi, then I started bouldering. At first I got more pain. The original rsi, but also the 'forearm pump'. But then after maybe half a year the pain dissappeared. Not just the new pain, but the old pain as well.
I personally didn't have an overall problem compiling the project on macOS in the past. The only issue I ran into was not being able to get VGUI to work, so there were no HUD in-game. Last I did this was ~6 months ago, though, so it could be things have improved now.
I just want to point out that it was exactly a week ago that OpenAI was openly announcing $10M pay packages to pull AI researchers from other major companies, like Alphabet. These other companies are well established and if OpenAI were a normal corporation might look at various hostile takeover strategies.

How much more cost effective to just fool half the board of a nonprofit into taking unnecessarily aggressive action.
People just can't resist, even though most times you only have to wait a few days for more details to come out.

Also, people (including me) never want to believe in mundane reasons, despite most things happening for mundane reasons.
Because it really seems like the for profit side was building towards a Microsoft acquisition
The women clearly.
Doomerism when it comes to technology has always been such a weird mindset to me. "oh no, they're gonna take the horses/horse buggies/telegram/landlines away!"

"Goddamn, how dare they invent the bigger cannons!?" - Romans, 1453, in Constantinople probably. (One incident where I can use my exempt powers).
That's a decent hypothesis.
this is why you don't bring NGO types into your board, and you especially don't give them power to oust you.
It is probably - for him - a once in a lifetime sale.
crap, "populace".
I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market. I do not think that AI companies can deliver as much as they promise. With the driving core at OpenAI basically gone, I bet they will soon implode under the weight of their promises. Which means, investors will start pulling out their stakes. boom
Dotcom bubble...was/is the internet not useful?
HLedger, regex matches and field assignments
Even a non-profit needs to focus on profitability, otherwise it's not going to exist for very long. All 'non-profit' means is it's prohibited from distributing its profit to shareholders. Ownership of a non-profit doesn't pay you. The non-profit itself still wants and is trying to generate more then it spends.
Was the housing market a bubble if millions of people lived in it and spent 75% of their time in it?
It can be useful in certain contexts, most certainly as a code co-pilot, but that and yours/others' usage doesn't change the fundamental mismatch between the limits of this tech and what Sam and others have hyped it up to do.

We've already trained it on all the data there is, it's not going to get "smarter" and it'll always lack true subjective understanding, so the overhype has been real, indeed to bubble levels as per OP.
They mean the same thing in this context. Demigod isn’t a “bad” god.
What’s the issue with Meet? It always seems to work when I need it.
Unless they don't know the reason. (But of course, it's hard to imagine what reason could be so secret that it's better to let people start jumping ship than share it with employees.)
The main question is what to expect from OpenAI now? No changes very unlikely, that would mean it was just a power grab. So two options remain: more open, more closed. How about slow down and open up? Hope they wouldn't dumb down GPT4. If they allow to use their models to generate training sets (which is prohibited now, AFAIK), that would be nice.
A "thermonuclear" lawsuit is surely enough to get us to DEATH CON 3[1].

This is a manifestly embarrassing (and toothless) threat.

[1]: https://www.npr.org/2022/10/09/1127732183/kanye-west-instagr...
its not even that, they have literally one argument and its nanobots
uno reverse..

drmogoguery is probably a bigger threat here.
They don’t have to deserve that, it’s a product, they just need to afford that. Why do you deserve your phone?
Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. Specifically when it concerns consequences of libel and defamation. Freedom of speech is the freedom to express opinions and debate. And even that is no guarantee that what do you say it will be liked by others, or won’t get you in trouble with others.
To us, sure, not to them, obviously.
people still work for Elon musk
People get fired all the time: suddenly, too. If I got fired by my company tomorrow, they wouldn't treat me with kid gloves, they'd just end my livelihood like it was nothing. I'd probably find out when I couldn't log in. Why should "upper management" get a graceful farewell? We don't have royalty in the USA. One person is not inherently better than another.
I suspect rz2k means that when the plant was operating, they couldn’t even see the towers because of the smoke/smog.

Now that it is closed, and there is no smoke - they can see not just the towers, they now see a long way behind them as well.
It's perfectly fine to use the GPL or the Apache License, and it's also perfectly to use some other license. No one is turning anything upside down. People are choosing licenses for their own projects according to their own preferences.
remember every religion/political party has not only the political animals, but the true believers.
> I think this… really depends on the behavior.

> I think it’s absolutely appropriate to force people to conform to our understanding of the world.

And I think... it's... appropriate to... use extreme violence to resist anyone who attempts to force me to conform to anything. Ellipsis.
Enforcing screen time in any way other than physical device security is an exercise in frustration.

With apple screen time is sometimes not counted, and sometimes counted when the screen is off. On mac especially it is basically useless. And in a multi-device scenario you cannot have the times add up across platforms, so unless you’re micromanaging they can have their full screen time allotment per platform. If you do go in for micromanaging you find that the syncing is unreliable, so the kids keep nagging to enable something that’s already enabled.

There needs to be an interoperable standard for screen time and parental controls, with pluggable management apps that allow flexibility in the rule sets, and unified views across devices, accounts and platforms. This is on the tech companies to make it happen, because these platforms are so locked down that nobody else can do it.
> "proof of work"

Isn't it the case that if you ask an LLM how it arrived at a "conclusion", it can't detail its chain of reasoning because there isn't one ?

So proof of work might mean: proof of human work.

Beg pardon if I'm missing something important here.
There's no smoke coming out.

Best guess: you're confused by the word "smokestack". Smokestack is a synonym for chimney. The power station is closed. The chimneys are still there, but there's no smoke coming out of them.
No it wasn’t.
A friend who drives city buses says the BYD electric buses are reliable and perform well, and he prefers them to the European EV buses.

But these are sold with service contracts and so on, so it doesn't necessarily transfer to cars.
> So two options remain: more open, more closed.

All kinds of changes are possible that would not, in net, be more open or more closed, either because there primary change would not be about openness, or because it would be more open in some ways and less in others.

So, no, there are more than two options.
This is one of my main concerns. I hope I’m somewhat more protected as I’ve been paying for google one for quite some years (so at least has some financial link to me also, and supposedly better support to go with it).
If Steve Jobs couldn't claim Wozniak's work as his own, he wouldn't have landed "his" Atari contract. Who knows where things would have gone after that, but I have a hard time tracing Apple's history of success without, say, the Apple II.
Mainly because LLMs have so far basically passed every formal test of ‘AGI’ including totally smashing the Turing test.

Now we are just reliant on ‘I’ll know it when I see it’.

LLMs as AGI isn’t about looking at the mechanics and trying to see if we think that could cause AGI - it’s looking at the tremendous results and success.
But if you want that, you need actual control. A voting vs non voting shares split.
newsflash, most of society works exactly like this.
I addressed that concern in my third paragraph.
> The client and the OS don't really give them any metadata or message content.

The client includes a spam protection service which allows them to send message data to a server for scanning. Every other messaging app uses the Notification service to send the message and its relevant metadata to the OS. So as far as conspiracy goes, Google has all the means to get the data already today.
Smokestack is the names for a chimney. He's saying in the past general smoke in the area means he couldn't see the chimneys or beyond, but now the site is decommissioned (and I assume other heavy industries have gone), the air quality is better and he can see from the rhet.
In person, sure, that's totally normal. It's unusual on a forum for a few reasons:

1) The comments are meant to be read by all, not just the author. If you want to email the author directly and start the message with a greeting containing their name ("hi jrockway!"), or even just their name, that's pretty normal.

2) You don't actually know the person's first name. In this case, it's pretty obvious, since the user in question goes by what looks like <firstname><lastname>. But who knows if that's actually their name. Plenty of people name their accounts after fictional people. It would be weird to everyone if your HN comment to darthvader was "Darth, I don't think you understand how corporate law departments work." Darth is not reading the comment. (OK, actually I would find that hilarious to read.)

3) Starting a sentence with someone's name and a long pause (which the written comma heavily implies) sounds like a parent scolding a child. You rarely see this form outside of a lecture, and the original comment in question is a lecture. You add the person's name to the beginning of the comment to be extra patronizing. I know that's what was going on and the person who was being replied to knows that's what was going on. The person who used that language denies that they were trying to be patronizing, but frankly, I don't believe it. Maybe they didn't mean to consciously do it, but they typed the extra word at the beginning of the sentence for some reason. What was that reason? If to soften the lecture, why not soften it even more by simply not clicking reply? It just doesn't add up.

4) It's Simply Not Done. Open any random HN discussion, and 99.99% of the time, nobody is starting replies with someone's name and a comma. It's not just HN; the same convention applies on Reddit. When you use style that deviates from the norm, you're sending a message, and it's going to have a jarring effect on the reader. Doubly jarring if you're the person they're naming.

TL;DR: Don't start your replies with the name of the person you're replying to. If you're talking with someone in person, sure, throw their name in there. That's totally normal. In writing? Less normal.