skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The board is like a who's who of privilege and nepotism - https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/17/openai-sam-altman-firing-b...
You could request your city council to attach a magnet to the ends of their sweep trucks. This would remove all nails and sharp ferromagnetic debris from the bike paths at no additional cost. They do this in certain countries to avoid flats in public buses.
"full access to everything" feels like a shot across the bow sending a very clear signal to the new board that it should not attempt to limit access to rapid commercial (or other) exploitation of any research results emanating from OpenAI for whatever reason given, be it 'alignment', 'safety' or disproportionate exclusive leverage running afoul of OpenAI's original mission.
It’s interesting that board members essentially terminated their private sector careers: now nobody would want them on other boards, etc.
This tweet illustrates that power players see this as unprofessional and, what’s worse, “not by the rules”.
Transformer-based LLMs are almost a half-decade old at this point, and GPT-4 is the least-efficient model of it's kind ever produced (that I am aware of).

OpenAI's performance is not and has never been proportional to the size of their models. Their big advantage is scale, which lets them ship unrealistically large models by leveraging subsidized cloud costs. They win by playing a more destructive and wasteful game, and their competitors can beat them by shipping a cheaper competitive alternative.

What exactly are we holding out for, at this point? A miracle?
They have the GPT tech, now they can poach the talent from openai without guilt
Signal is so far from being a monopoly that runs "all the world's communications" that these comparisons are essentially meaningless.

There's plenty of diversity in the messaging space. Decide your values, choose your compromises, pick your platform. Simple.
The world does not divide between hyperscaler and not hyperscalers. Plenty of companies need linux specialised positions. Redhat, IBM and a small ISP are not hyperscalers.
That still pisses me off.
Meh, he could be co-ceo and head all AI operations and that will help Microsoft signal how serious they are about AI
Ask HN: Is paid ChatGPT Plus worth it?
Last time I checked there was a limit to access GPT-4 even after paying.

GPT-3.5, Bard, Bing is free -- any real advantage? specially considering limited acess for individual users? (even after paying)

Now there is even a waitlist to pay for it. I am hitting the capability wall of free version regularly.

If you are using it, are you not running into 50 per month limit? Is that enough for you? << seems like 50 per month is wrong it is 50 per 3-4 hours, but it seem to change sometime. I can probably hit 50 per 3-4 hours limit trivially when I'm focused. I have been throttled of hackernews/reddit/etc for posting too fast for example.

(UK based if that matters)

PS. I'm using copilot. But I see that it works fine as a autocomplete for Python. I tried using it for C++ but I had to delete chunk of it as I ran into segmentation faults (very easily). It is defenitely good at generating tests tho.
You are comparing a corporate scandals, but the alternative theory in this forum seems to be a power struggle and power struggles have completely different mechanics.

Think of it as the difference between a vote of no confidence and a coup. In the first case you let things simmer for a bit to allow you to wheel and deal and to arrange for the future. In the second case, even in the case of a parliamentary coup like the 9th of Thermidor, the most important thing is to act fast.
While I don’t know what is happening in OpenAI, from my experience(long enough to have an opinion), top people often leave when the employer is doing well or passing the last hurdle because, by that time the employer has gained adequate presence and brand identity that anyone leaving can immediately end up in top FAANG or equivalent Corps with much better benefits and of course pay/equity and other things.

Only time employees leaving is a bad sign had been when the company had been in zombie mode too long(few years) and haven’t delivered anything yet or still in alpha/beta stage with crappy deliveries no one is using or has no significant uptake.

Also, if there are financial difficulties, then a lot of people leave in droves and some actually come back after finances get better.
Microsoft has a huge stake in OpenAI, so they're very much a loser.
You're one of the ones who used to call bitcoin "buttcoin" didn't you? Very sure of yourself, very wrong.
TP-link always has poorly coded junk. Always. Everything I've seen from them.

Every managed switch, every camera, it's just junk, junk, junk.

I've seen tp-link switches which have their admin interfaces die after a week. To get in you have to reboot the switch.

I've had poe switches of theirs which randomly stop providing power.

They're junk.

And they sell managed switches, with firmwares 4+ years old, and never update them.

Unsafe. Unsecured. Buggy. Crashy. Junk.
Western historians tend to focus more on Western history. Other historians tend to focus on their part of the history more. Don't see any problem here.
But the point is that Woz was replacable, because he was replaced. Jobs on the other hand was replaced and the company nearly died, he came back and turned it around. Of course it only because a trillion dollar company after Tim Apple took over, which I guess just shows that nobody is irreplacable.
I'll bite: Kegypt
> this is why you don't bring NGO types into your board

OpenAI is an NGO…?
isn't this is an upside? a lot of fraudulent people are very nice and help everyone around.
Depends how much research is driven by Ilya…
Honestly, it feels like OpenAI is not taking the copyright trolls* very seriously for this to be the case. I don't think US has the luxury to set this dangerous AI precedent.

* You can disagree but no copyright lawsuit by mega corporations is doing it for the good of the law framework. They just want money.
Teams sucks compared to Meet, IMHO.
FAANG would probably be viewed as a step down from OpenAI at this point (or at least until today)
that’s just the all-in-one file, individual modules also have their own files
Not my first rodeo :-)

I too made a real time hardware level trading system back in the day, on the back of building a multi channel seismic aquisition system with a custom RealtimeOS talking to a bunch of DSP cards that each sampled a trailing flotation cable that each had multiple microphones with the entire grid going toward building up a profile of the seafloor and layers underneath along with bobbing boat|cable cancelation, etc.

Very similar architectures in many ways - with rolling DSP filters in place of trading response algorithms .. etc.

Lisp -> ASM or Lisp -> C either way code generation from a higher language was a good way to get the heavy lifting done.
That too, otherwise ASI could be another PTFE and asbestos moment but on crack
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-18/openai-al...

https://archive.is/tCG3q

Bloomberg: "OpenAI CEO’s Ouster Followed Debates Between Altman, Board"
Rushing out a press release with vague accusations and without consulting the relevant parties certainly feels more like a coup than a traditional vote of no confidence.
There's a summary at the end:

- Noisy fan

- UI does not work in Safari. "Or, it'll prompt you to download a file CONSTANTLY."

- The DNS resolver stopped responding properly to a client Mac, though not 100% certain that was the issue.

- (UDP) NAT association tracking not working

- There is an SSH interface, but it's "completely neutered". "You don't even have /proc in there"

- Some speculation about missing IPv6 firewalling.

I don't understand the point about NAT. The source port gets mangled? You mean for listening? It randomizes configured forward ports, or what do you mean?
I was thinking about the same issue the other day, but in the context of passenger EVs and tall mountain passes. On the pikes peak descent for example there are many signs imploring drivers to shift down and use engine braking to avoid brake overheating and failure. It would probably be a bad idea to put a charger at the summit.
What about the freedom of speech to publish flight logs?

I like how 90% of blue check lackeys hide who they are.
Yeah, I spent years being frightened of stuff like Jurassic Park, Critters, X-Files, and even a MacGyver episode(!) That last one is where MacGyver gets lead poisoning and starts hallucinating; I must've seen that when I was, 4, 5, maybe? I remembered it when I saw it years later at the age of 12 or so (at which point it wasn't scary at all).

But around that age I did see Jurassic Park, and I spent months scared in bed – every time I heard some rumbling noise (usually just a car) I worried it might be some T-Rex or whatnot shrug. X-Files was also all the rage at the time and I always imagined aliens and whatnot peeking through my window.

It all seems profoundly silly even to me who lived through this to the point of mental illness, but kids can be really silly and have a kind of over-active imaginations that can make things scary that you or I have trouble imagining.

And all of that was before the internet. Even back in the 90s some more parental controls wouldn't be a bad idea, tailored to the personality of the child.
GPT5 pre-training just ended I believe. Brock, Pachocki, Szymon Sidor, would have likely all been involved.

These are huge losses. Pachocki led pre-training for GPT-4, and probably GPT-5. Brockman is the major engineer responsible for the efficiency improvements that enabled ChatGPT and GPT-4 to be even remotely cost-effective. That is a piece that is often overlooked, but OpenAI's advantage over the competition in compute efficiency is probably even larger than the model itself.
Also same here. Actually currently staying up late Friday night hacking on OpenAI API projects (while waiting for SpaceX Starship launch, it's quite a day for high-tech news!) - and wondering if I should even bother. Of course I will keep hacking, but...still it makes you think. Which is a very unexpected feeling.

Hugely more interested in the open source models now, even if they are not as good at present. Because at least there is a near-100% guarantee that they will continue to have community support no matter what; the missing problem I suppose is GPUs to run them.
Is Mistral really a 2 Billion business after only 6 months?
https://www.ft.com/content/387eeeab-1f95-4e3b-9217-6f69aeeb5...
Elon Musk was talking about his view on OpenAI and especially the role of Ilya just 8 days ago on Lex Friedman Podcast.

Listening to it again now, it feels like he might have know what is going on:

https://youtu.be/JN3KPFbWCy8?si=WnCdW45ccDOb3jgb&t=5100

Edit:
Especially this part: "It was created as a non-profit open source and now it is a closed-source for maximum profit... Which I think is not good carma... ..."

https://youtu.be/JN3KPFbWCy8?si=WnCdW45ccDOb3jgb&t=5255
Maybe now he'll focus on worldcoin instead?
Also faster!
Active angel investors in the US and Europe who are investing
I am looking for reliable source of active investors in the US and Europe. Many VCs have lists but they are outdated. Any suggestions?
Interesting thoughts about the pot of gold vs the internal open source vision. Why did they have to parade Sam's ass up on the DevDay Stage to push the product and company forward though. Couldn't they have canned his ass last week.

I did really liked his speech at DevDay though. It felt kinda like future a I'd be more interested in getting to know. Also, on the pot of gold theory, doesn't he not even take any stock. Chasing GPU's more like. Anyhow, weird move on OpenAI's part.

Anyone got a decent DALLE3 replacement yet. XD
Every time a new generation plays with the LMAX disruptor, it's time to remind them that the modes with multiple producers/consumers can have really bad tail latency if your application's threading is not designed in the intended way.

Disruptor and most other data structures that come from trading are designed to run with thread-per-core systems. This means systems where there will be no preemption during a critical section. They can get away with a lot of shenanigans on the concurrency model due to this. If you are using these data structures and have a thread-per-request model, you're probably going to have a bad time.
No it is not, copycat culture will never amount to high tech. Only democracy allows freedom that is required to develop into high-tech economy. Chinese best bet is to compete with India producing plastic crap.
I am at lost. Not fear, just lost.

Don't know what to do. Is my investment into their API still worth it? It feels very unstable at this moment.
yea you missed the thing that happened lol
Chat gpt is not a good source of truth so can’t be used for information retrieval at scale. You might have a specific usage pattern that is very different to the majority of Google Search users so it works for you
AFAIK that's how OpenAI does it, the non-profit controls the for-profit.
AI makes everything go faster. /s
We at dyte.io are planning to launch something here! Hoping to solve all the challenges people face with Teams, Meet, Zoom, etc.
That is "normal"/low-end IC6 pay at a tech company, the ML researchers involved here are pulling well into the millions.
Why nepotism? The article you linked to has no mention of particular family ties that got them there? If anything it’s a remarkably meritocratic board, when compared with most other industries

The fact that it’s all well connected wealthy people is kind of the point, the board is there (among others) to bring advice and experience
Isn't RAG essentially the "something small you can bolt on" to an LLM that gives it "persistence outside the context window?" There's no reason you can't take the output of an LLM and stuff it into a vector database. And, if you ask it to create a plan to do a thing, it can do that. So, there you have it: goal-oriented persistence outside of the context window.

I don't claim that RAG + LLM = AGI, but I do think it takes you a long way toward goal-oriented, autonomous agents with at least a degree of intelligence.
Of course the have their biases, but they actually only ones who see the cases mostly not covered in statistics and they are the ones who can say whether helmet would save someone or not. The problem is that our culture is biased against fatalities. Even in this discussion there are mostly links to graphs about death rates. But these people in ER are the ones who see a lot of cases where death would be better outcome. Looking at my neighbours taking care of almost completely paralyzed son (accident not related to transport), I tend to agree.
"That guy" has a pretty good idea when it comes to NLP

https://arxiv.org/abs/1801.06146
All I notice is that my time going from calendar to Teams call is ~30 seconds due to slow site loading and extra clicks. Calendar to Meet call is two clicks and loads instantly with sane defaults for camera/microphone settings. It's significantly better than teams or zoom in those regards.
I dunno, the moat Sam tried to build might make it hard to make a competitor.
... How would you like your consequences delivered today for making such an absurd comment? Freedom of speech is by definition freedom from many kinds of consequences. Who are you people that keep repeating this nonsense like mindless drones?
I guess you could run roughly the same set of unit tests on both implementations even if you can't formally prove equivalence. The unit tests would likely need to be adapted a little for each implementation. Of course, you then need to prove that the two sets of unit tests are equivalent :)
Calibre – New in Calibre 7.0
AI today is in a weird position. What I can do today with AI was _inimaginable_ just 1 year ago. However, for a lot of people, the concept has worn out so fast, that they don't realize anymore what has happened... Some very intelligent people said some very silly things, such as that it was a bad search engine (it isn't a search engine) that it was a glorified word guesser (it doesn't exactly work as your telephone word suggestion). And so on and so forth. People always try to understand new technology through the lense of older technology. I do it, you certainly do it. This is how we grasp novelty. But AI is in a different dimension. I have been working in the domain for 30 years and I really didn't think we would reach this level in my life time. Talking to a computer to bring it to make some quite complicated task is INCREDIBLE... However, since communication is really ubiquitous for Humans, we tend to forget that it is an incredible achievement... In less than a year, we went for Scify ("Her") to reality, and in less than a year people have become blasé for something so fantastic... This is what consummerism did to people... They can't wonder more than a year...
The board questioned his “candid”-ness. This was not a difference of opinion on strategy.
If people can connect small scale renewable power grids (think solar powered grids of a few acres) present alongside highways to charging facilities the revolution would truly happen especially in sunny places (think Texas, Africa, South Asia etc.) !
nominees and appointments to federal agencies can often be for things that I want or don't want to happen that have nothing to do with the party or President that myself and my peers lean towards or are outright affiliated with

if there’s a vacancy or an acting director who is given a lot of autonomy and I know what kind of autonomy will be leveraged differently with particular appointments, I will absolutely vote for a President and senators to that affect

not everything is about civil rights or the environment, there are dozens of other things that actually can be influenced over the next several years

focus on what you can control, its pretty obvious what those things are, I’m more so surprised that so many people gravitated to the far edges of their ideology. but it allows the rest of us nobodies to shape our slice of the world more easily while everyone else is distracted on causes that will never reach consensus.
MS has no voting shares.
Gnome has but I assume they're very basic. Currently using Qustodio and Linux boots to Waydroid (Android).
It’s a lot more work to find the signal in a stack of 200 resumes. Gaming the system is a good signal itself. The system has to be overcome to get things done.
Oh noes, my poor billion worth gaming companies that milk their player base. Who will think about them?!
Atcoder Dynamic Programming Contest: Video Editorials to All 26 Problems
I recently uploaded the video editorials for all 26 problems for the Atcoder Educational Dynamic Programming Contest[1] on YouTube[2]

AtCoder is a competitive programming platform and online judge system that regularly hosts programming contests and provides you with a practice environment. It was created in Japan and it has gained popularity among the competitive programming community

About the Dynamic Programming Contest
It is an unofficial contest to practice DP (Dynamic Programming).
They selected 26 DPs, mostly basic ones, and prepared a problem to learn each of them.

Links:
[1] https://atcoder.jp/contests/dp/tasks
[2] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6h2Gn3JK5Lnew3sVMFp0...
In general, what are the advantage of a thread-per-request model? Better load balancing between cores?
I'm in this boat. Not for my startup but for side projects I was absolutely pinning my hopes on them unlocking access to tools and relaxing some of their restrictions in the near future.. a future which now seem unlikely.
My prediction: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38309611&p=7#38311488

So here's my theory which might sound crazy. Sam planned to open a new AI company and taking away openAI's top talents to his company. And breaking up openAI into non profit and his for profit company.

Sam's first tweet after all this has, just hours after this article:

> will have more to say about what’s next later.

So either he knew that he was about to be fired or at least was prepared.

Also based on the wording of the press release, Sam did something that the board absolutely hated. Because most of the time even if he did something illegal it doesn't make sense to risk defamation by accusing him publically.
Also based on his video of yesterday at the APEC summit, he repeated the similar lines few times:

> I am super excited. I can't imagine anything more exciting to work on.

So here if we assume he knew he was about to get fired, the conclusion is clear.
I don't know him either but in his interviews, Ilya's always been composed, considerate, and measured. Not sure what ticked you off.
> batch your updates locally to issue fewer of them at least

I don’t know why I never thought of this, brilliant!
This sounds plausible. The timing seems sudden and there was chatter in the last few days about OpenAI needing to raise more money.
> She believed in the virtue of poverty and also believed in me, so we didn’t worry about money.

1) Quit your job

2) Mooch off a friend/romantic
interest

3) ???

4) Profit!

I wonder how the author feels about UBI. Or who should get to be part of this "leisure class."
At the moment this thread is the third most highly voted ever on HN.

1. (6015) Stephen Hawking dying

2. (5771) Apple's letter related to the San Bernardino case

3. (4629) Sam Altman getting fired from OpenAI (this thread)

4. (4338) Apple's page about Steve Jobs dying

5. (4310) Bram Moolenaar dying

https://hn.algolia.com/
Vimium-FF – Control Firefox with Vim Keybindings
I’d recommend trying to build out your systems to work across LLMs where you can. Create an interface layer and for now maybe use OpenAI and Vertex as a couple of options. Vertex is handy as while not always as good you may find it works well for some tasks and it can be a lot cheaper for those.

If you build out this way then when the next greatest LLM comes out you can plug that into your interface and switch the tasks it’s best at over.
Nothing wrong with greener pastures/lower steppes
Even Zoom works well in Firefox. Still prefer the UX of Google Meet though.
I understand completely what the author wants distributed computing to mean. I'm also very familiar with the scene he's talking about. In my time I ran Seti@Home, Folding@Home<- (? I think that's what the thing was called), the great internet mersenne prime search etc. I've even done the crowd-sourced distributed computing thing in Eve Online.

However this kind of crowd-sourced computing is a tiny subset of distributed computing. Unless you think (for example) that the author has got it right, and me and Leslie Lamport have got the definition wrong[1].

[1] https://dl.acm.org/doi/abs/10.1145/3335772.3335934
New York may ban noncompete employment agreements and Wall Street is not happy
"Realizing" works pretty well.

Strunk & White would've shit a pair of bricks over that. I shudder to think how "Operationalizing" would've gone over.
This. I would like my serial killer to say some profound shit before he kills me.
> I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market.

I agree, it's greatly undervalued!
I don’t know if people realise that there really isn’t any more prestigious place to work at right now than OpenAI. You don’t leave there for a better opportunity.
Seeing btc is still quite useless apart from a few legitimate reasons, otherwise mostly being used for illegal purposes: yes, btc is a failure.
Who's the situation-engineer for some of us duller but curious folks?
That's would be hilarious