skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Ironically they would’ve had a better outcome if they just asked GPT-4 and followed its advice.

I just tried, and GPT-4 gave me a professional and neutrally worded press release like you pointed out.

More realistically, this is why you have highly paid PR consultants. Right now, every tweet and statement should go through one.

That doesn't look like it's happening. What's next?

"I'm sorry you feel you need an apology from me"?
Safeguarding the Tor network: network health and supporting relay operators
I am only more surprised that we have not inserted a new #ifdef UNSAFE_THREAD added to stdhdr.h, so we can wrap setenv(), et. al.
I knew it was Joseph Gordon-Levitt's plot all along!
Ha! One of my all-time favourites, the fuck-you position. The Gambler, the uncle giving advice:

You get up two and a half million dollars, any asshole in the world knows what to do: you get a house with a 25 year roof, an indestructible Jap-economy shitbox, you put the rest into the system at three to five percent to pay your taxes and that's your base, get me? That's your fortress of fucking solitude. That puts you, for the rest of your life, at a level of fuck you.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2039393/characters/nm0000422
Does that include the person who stole self-driving IP from Waymo, set up a company with stolen IP, and tried to sell the company to Uber?
I think it's a term minted by Dave Winer. The principle idea that "wherever you get your podcasts" could apply to any art.

Here's a very literal example from him:
http://scripting.com/2023/10/26.html
Watch Satya also save the research arm by making Karpathy or Ilya the head of Microsoft Research
Employee equity (and all investments) are capped at 100x, which is still potentially a hefty payday. The whole point of the structure was to enable competitive employee comp.
Same here . No problem with anti Adblock. It was shown twice to me and I googled „YouTube alternatives“ then tried Vimeo and it was nice. Maybe they did register this ? :D
Is this learning from your mistakes though? "Deeply regret" is one of those statements that does not really mean much. There are what something like 6 board members? Three of which are employees, two of those that got removed from the board. He was the only voting board member who is also an employee and part of the original founding team if you will. These are assumptions on my part but I don't really suspect the other board members orchestrated this event. Its possible and I may be wrong but it is improbable. So lets work off the narrative that he orchestrated the event. He now "Deeply regret" its, not a "I made a mistake" and I am sorry. But he regrets the participation and how it plays out.
'the man who killed OpenAI' that will be hard to wash out.
So this was completely unnecessary cock-up -- still ongoing. Without Ilya' vote this would not even be a thing. This is really comical, Naked Gun type mess.

Ilya Sutskever is one of the best in the AI research, but everything he and others do related to AI alignment turns into shit without substance.

It makes me wonder if AI alignment is possible even in theory, and if it is, maybe it's a bad idea.
Wait, it's signed by Ilya Sutskever?!
I would consider those models "published." The models I had in mind are the first attempts at training GPT5, possibly the model trained without mention of consciousness and the rest of the safety work.

There is also all the questions for RLHF, and the pipelines to think around that.
Yeah the drama is a bit overdone, I guess the had to cut some corners due to the writers strike
The more cynical side of me views this as a an act orchestrated by the demons... Err, "people" over at Micro$oft in order to avoid all those pesky questions about safety and morality in AI by getting the ponzi-scheme-aka-Worldcoin guy to join ranks and rile the media up.
How long will the current chatgpt v4 stay available? Is it all about to end?
This whole debacle is a complete embarrassment and shredding the organisations credibility.
> For a country which produces a large number of really outstanding economists (including great macroeconomists!) Argentina is surprising disaster.

I'd assume that it's a disaster is why it produces a lot of outstanding economists.
It's different from other startups, because other startups can promise potentially infinite returns in exchange for investments, while Open AI had capped returns.
Nice work! Can you run it locally?

Also, it’d be nice if one could try the demo without creating an account. Otherwise I’m just judging by your screenshots.
Murati is/was not a board member.
The rise and fall of Seth Roberts and the Shangri-La diet
I don't think MS expects this to really happen. It's negotiation, designed to make OAI's board come to their senses and reinstate Altman.
That was a seriously dumb move on the part of OpenAI
It's a pretty interesting point to think about. Post-hoc explanations are clean, neat, and may or may not have been prepared by someone with a particular interpretation of events. While real-time, there's too much happening, too quickly, for any one person to really have a firm grasp on the entire situation.

On our present stage there is no director, no stage manager; the set is on fire. There are multiple actors - with more showing up by the minute - some of whom were working off a script that not everyone has seen, and that is now being rewritten on the fly, while others don't have any kind of script at all. They were sent for; they have appeared to take their place in the proceedings with no real understanding of what those are, like Rosencranz and Guildenstern.

This is kind of what the end thesis of War and Peace was like - there's no possible way that Napoleon could actually have known what was happening everywhere on the battlefield - by the time he learned something had happened, events on the scene had already advanced well past it; and the local commanders had no good understanding of the overall situation, they could only play their bit parts. And in time, these threads of ignorance wove a tale of a Great Victory, won by the Great Man Himself.
It just shows that precise definitions are not that important in medical science.

We all know what is a drug. And there are border cases where our ideas of drug and food overlap. It is only a small issue for regulators to decide what regulations to apply. But for doctors it is not a problem.

Saline infusion technically is not an active drug either. And yet it can be regulated as one because obviously quality standards are important for infusions.
miniflux does a pretty good job at fetching the original content, but it does not work well for sites that use a lot of JS
WSJ said "500 threaten to resign". "Threaten" lol!
WSJ says there are 770 employees total. This is all so bizarre.
The people should choose Bitcoin.
If the guy is more of a engineer/scientist stereotype than a people person, this shouldn't be that surprising. He probably made a decision that he thought was for the right reasons, without thinking at all about how other people would react. Look up "social defeat." It's real, and it's one of the worst things you can experience. Imagine having strangers online mocking your hairline and everyone upvoting that comment. Imagine going around town and having people frown at you.
What currency would the government pay benefits/public sector employees' wages in?
Interesting thanks. I can imagine that an email sending service wants to be in control of message-id's (would still be interesting to hear the actual rationale).

Perhaps SMTP could use an extension with a new (pipelined) command after DATA, so a client can retrieve the assigned message-id.

I wonder how common it is for message-id's to be overwritten. I must have run into this SES behaviour (along with other problems) when trying to use it as backup for outgoing mail for my mail server: My DKIM signatures include the message-id header, overwriting the header will invalidate them.
Pushing the Limits of HPC and AI Is Becoming a Sustainability Headache
I'd argue if you have "getters and setters" you're already doing it wrong, because you're employing OOP. Just use a raw data structure and write functions that accept it as a parameter. Other things being equal, the code will be less complex, cleaner, and easier to test.
In most companies, when 3% represents an in-fact huge number because you have a very successful product, you absolutely do test for that 3%.

It’s tiny companies that may ignore 3% as too expensive to worry about.
Pretty much this. In practice most people will choose the dollar, as long as it remains stable at least.
Can we have a quick moment of silence for Matt Levine? Between Friday afternoon and right now, he has probably had to rewrite today's Money Stuff column at least 5 or 6 times.
I highly doubt this was a coordinated plan from the start by Microsoft. I think what we're seeing here is a seasoned team of executives (Microsoft) eating a naive and inexperienced board alive after the latter fumbled.
A few weeks ago I posted on here about the maps lag, and it literally felt like it was fixed after the comment got some attention.

There's 100% targeted de-optimization for firefox users and the burden of finding it is on the users it seems.
Chris Nolan: 2001: A Space Odyssey "says everything there is to say about AI"
Battery swapping schemes have already been tried, theyy all flopped. I don't mind if people attempt it again, as long as they don't fall into the "it failed because it wasn't large-enough scale" trap.

And I'm sure battery-swaps are possible, they're just a really dumb idea. Engineering isn't about what can be done, they're about building the best solution to the problem - and that includes not overengineering it.

As the saying goes: any idiot can build a bridge that stands up, but only an engineer can build a bridge that barely stands up.
https://youtu.be/JjPVvuKV30U?si=HJVLjEOpVEThYs0-
> It will have a diameter of 120 metres, the same as the London Eye, and be 96 metres tall .... But it’s also just 76 metres away from people’s homes.

I can see that getting very annoying, very quickly - a lot or most of the residencies around there are high rise 5 floors so it will be very visible.

It looks like the only space for it is here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/x1548uF8uKq2ffND8
At the risk of stating the obvious:

- It’s fine to offer a paid service and an ad supported free tier.

- It’s not fine to always personalize ads; this should be opt in (with an option to withdraw consent at any time and without costs).
> just some people talking nonsense

no, I think some people are rebuilding Z80 and 6502 chips and the like, to get away from Intel spycrap and other reasons
I used to use a PowerShell snippet for adding SeBackupPrivilege and SeRestorePrivilege to an app or explorer window. That will let you read/write anywhere on disk.
And sue for the assets of OpenAI on account of the damage the board did to their stock... and end up with all of the IP.
> Basically, if you disagree with the idea of the non-profit and its Charter, think the whole thing is science-fiction bunk and the people who believe in it are idiots, I think you should argue that instead of framing all of this as "It's a coup" without even disclosing that you don't support the non-profit Charter in the first place.

I think you might have better luck grasping the situation if you put a little bit more effort into understanding it rather than jumping to put words in the mouths of others. Nobody said whether they support the non-profit charter or not in the first place, and as far as the phenomena of what's happening right now, the non-profit charter has nothing to do with it.

550 of 700 OpenAI employees have just told the board to resign. Altman is going to MSFT and taking his org with him. Regardless of what the board says, who do you think really has the power here -- the person who has and already had the full support of the org he built around him, or a frankly amateurish board that is completely unequipped for executing on a highly public, high stakes governance task presented in front of it?

Unfortunately, not only can you cannot charter public opinion, but those who try often see it backfiring by making clear their air of moral superiority rather than leaning on their earned mandate to govern the rank and file they are supposed to represent. The board, and it seems you, will simply be learning that lesson the hard way.
Microsoft Swallows OpenAI's Core Team – GPU Capacity, Incentives, IP
Illiac IV Supercomputer: DARPA, SIMD, Fairchild and Stanley Kubrick's '2001'
All the shade going the board (legit) - that said Altman and Brockman just lost so much of their independence its unbelievable - sad state of affairs that its being described as a win for them (or a good salvage). Also - everyone is pinning the board for all the problems ... everybody's hands are dirty here that it even got to this point. What a mess.
The Reason EV Repairs Are So Expensive
Somehow reminds me of Nokia...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7645482

frik on April 25, 2014:

> The Nokia fate will be remembered as hostile takeover. Everything worked out in the favor of Microsoft in the end. Though Windows Phone/Tablet have low market share, a lot lower than expected.

> * Stephen Elop the former Microsoft employee (head of the Business Division) and later Nokia CEO with his infamous "Burning Platform" memo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Elop#CEO_of_Nokia

> * Some former Nokia employees called it "Elop = hostile takeover of a company for a minimum price through CEO infiltration": https://gizmodo.com/how-nokia-employees-are-reacting-to-the-...

For the record: I don't actually believe that there is an evil Microsoft master plan. I just find it sad that Microsoft takes over cool stuff and inevitably turns it into Microsoft™ stuff or abandons it.
Azure OpenAI is always a bit behind, e.g. they don't have GPT-4 turbo yet
Brazil's oldest PV system turns 26
That seems rather harsh. We know he’s not stupid, and you’re clearly being emotional. I’d venture he probably made the dumbest possible move a smart person could make while also in a very emotional state. The lessons for all to learn on the table is making big decisions while in an emotional state do not often work out well.
I agree. I'm already sick of reading through political hit pieces, exaggeration, biased speculations and unfounded bold claims. This all just turned into a kind of TV sports, where you pick a side and fight.
i'm legitimately trying to understand your position. can you please explain to me how trade that contributes to climate change is positive sum?
Not quite Amazon and a canal but...

I was once asked by a tourist near where I lived if the bridge they had just driven across was the 2500m long Forth Road Bridge across what is, I believe, geographically a fjord - it was actually Dean Bridge which is 134m long across a gorge of a fairly small river.
Never have I felt this more appropriate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
The webpage is very nice, with 3-4 steps tutorial to engage people and an example with interactive explanations
> It's fascinating to hear realtime news directly from the people making it.

With all of their editorial biases, axes to grind, and investors to placate, instead.
>"What this chart shows is that, since 2000, the fossil fuel industry has in its very best year managed to secure $84.69 for every $1 spent on lobbying. This is not a bad return on investment, and clearly the money that the fossil fuel industry is spending on lobbying is well worth it. But when we look at renewables, the picture that emerges is on a different scale entirely. In 2012, during the ARRA stimulus, the industry received $690.95 in tax preferences for every dollar spent. In 2023, we are on track to see that rise to $740.38 thanks to IRA distributions. Although the fossil fuels industry still spends more on lobbying in absolute terms, the returns on green lobbying are significantly higher. "
Oh that's definitely common. I've seen it many times and it's ugly.

I don't think this is what Ilya is trying to do. His tweet is clearly about preserving the organization because he sees the structure itself as helpful, beyond his role in it.
Great plan. Ill choose to pay my taxes to Hayek in Monopoly money.
And these are the same people that believe that not only can they build superhuman AGI, but that they can keep it "aligned".

I think they are wrong about building superhuman AGI, but I think they are even more wrong that they can keep a superhuman AGI "aligned".
"The first casualty of War is Truth"
- Someone

We just saw connected mega corporation people on fighting for winning the AI master race. Reminds a bit from the nuclear arms race.
>but were also smart enough to bring in Eric Schmidt and others with deeper tech >industry business experience for "adult supervision"

>(Now, of course that original Google vision is just laughable as Sundar and Ruth >have completely eviscerated what was left of it, but whatever)

Those two things happening one after another is not coincidence.
OpenAI board member's Poe let users make chatbots using prompts in April 2023
unfortunately I don't have a high enough rank in league for that
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38331457
> non-compete clauses are unenforceable in California, so what exactly are they suing for?

Part of suing is to ensure compliance with agreements. There is a lot of IP that Microsoft may not have a license to that these employees have. There are also legitimate questions about conflicts of interests, particularly with a former executive, et cetera.

> pretty sure Satya consulted with an army of lawyers over the weekend regarding the potential issue

Sure. I'm not suggesting anyone did anything illegal. Just that it will be litigated over from every direction.
If we assume Ilya is speaking the truth and not the initiator of the coup, then the question is who initiated it?
It looks like the only space for it is here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/x1548uF8uKq2ffND8

A lot or most of the residencies around there are high rise 5-20 floors so it will be very visible.
Likely Ilya and Adam swayed Helen and Tasha. Booted Sam out. Greg voluntarily resigned.

Ilya (at the urging of Satya and his colleagues including Mira) wanted to reinstate Sam, but the deal fell through with the Board outvoting Sustkever 3 to 1. With Mira deflecting, Adam got his mate Emmett to steady the ship but things went nuclear.
"Well, my brother has done four seasons of Westworld and five seasons of Person of Interest, which are amazing, prescient explorations of artificial intelligence and the security state and data security. That, and look, I’m a huge fan of 2001: A Space Odyssey, which in its elemental, Kubrickian simplicity kind of says everything there is to say about artificial intelligence."
I don't need it to be a competitor; I don't even want it to be a competitor. I just need it to exist and get some quality, modest use like the rest of the fedeverse.
Most egregiously, IMO, was the Holdo Maneuver (jumping the rebel cruiser into the pursuing First Order ship). If that's a thing, why didn't they use that on the Death Star, the Executor, etc. Why weren't people building massive objects with no guns or shields, just a hyperdrive? It just wrecks the internal consistency for an admittedly awe-inspiring moment in theaters.
If I were your boyfriend/girlfriend/spouse/cousin/friend, on your next birthday I would buy you this: https://www.amazon.com/Skylab-Americas-Station-Hallmark-Pop-...

But since I'm not, if you can afford it (apologies I know nothing about you) I suggest you buy it. It seems like you enjoyed it, and it would "bring you joy" (a la Marie Kondo) to have this in your bookcase and go through it with any sons/daughters/nephews/nieces/etc.
As someone watching this all from Europe, realizing the work day has not even started for the US West Coast yet leaves me speechless.

This situation's drama is overwhelming and it seems like its making HN's servers meltdown.
When there's a programming language in the project name and it's not a library, it's not a good sign. It means that there was nothing interesting worth mentioning.
Rust's stdlib's API is completely safe here. On Windows[1], it uses the GetEnvironmentVariable/SetEnvironmentVariable API, which as you noted doesn't have this problem. On Unix[2], it maintains its own RwLock to provide synchronisation. Additionally, Rust's API only gives out copies of the data, it never gives you a pointer to the original.

The problem comes when you do FFI on *nix systems, because those foreign functions may start making unsynchronised calls to getenv/setenv.

[1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/std/sr...

[2] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/blob/master/library/std/sr...
Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done.

Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him back or want to join him at MS and Ilya is one of them, just madness.
That's not how history works. What you read are the tellings of the people and those aren't all facts but how they perceived the situation in a retrospective. Read the biographies of different people telling the same event and you will notice that they are quite never the same, leaving the unfavourable bits usually out.
I googled the definition of data driven development, and none of the results I looked at explain anything. I don't know if it is because of the concept itself or because internet is becoming more and more shit
That's a confused heuristic. It could just as easily mean they keep their heads down and do good work for the kind of people whose attention actually matters for their future employment prospects.
> Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI

Not sure why you didn’t research before saying that! It was $10B committed and not a cash handover of that amount. Also, majority of that’s Azure credits
According to some articles I found from Google, already retargeted ads (someone went to an ecommerce shop, showed interested in a product, but didn't buy it, gets shown this product on another website), already has 10x difference in CTR compared to normal display ads which I think also take into consideration your likely demographic and interests. So even larger difference between completely random ads.
I mean I don't doubt that it happens, but the swimsuit rule probably cuts down on it. And to be fair, that pool is possibly the sexiest place in Berlin.
> It now seems inevitable that the first* AGI will fall into the hands of Microsoft rather than OpenAI.

Avoiding this was literally the reason that OpenAI was founded.

For the record, I don't believe anyone at OpenAI or Microsoft is going to deliver AGI any time in the near future. I think this whole episode just proves that none of these people are remotely qualified to be the gatekeepers for anything.
Not really. The lesson to take away from this is $$$ will always win. OpenAI found a golden goose and their employees were looking to partake in a healthy amount of $$$ from this success and this move by the board blocks $$$.
Interestingly, Windows developers made much better choices back in the 1990-s.

GetEnvironmentStrings() API comes with the FreeEnvironmentStrings() counterpart. Whoever calls GetEnvironmentStrings() to get the entire environment is then responsible to call FreeEnvironmentStrings(), which allows thread-safe GetEnvironmentStrings() API.

GetEnvironmentVariable() API is even simpler, it doesn’t return a pointer, instead it fills a caller-provided buffer.
everytime i check out some htmx source, it feels like it would be a complete nightmare to maintain at scale.

e.g.

hx-delete="/chat/{{ chat.id }}" hx-target="#chat-{{ chat.id }}" hx-swap="outerHTML"