skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Wild guess, maybe OpenAI is deeply in debt and Sam Altman was hiding it (possibly committing fraud)? Because a benefit to prepaid billing is that they'll get more cash in the short term.

Also, at least part of the debt may be because people were getting compute without paying for it in the pay-per-use model. This could explain why paid memberships are being paused too (e.g. people mass-registering and then getting chargebacks).
Wowza, the COM guy? How long has this guy been working on 15 years-too-early technologies? Lol
Greg is the one who announced GPT-4. Sam enabled Greg and vice-versa.

The next AI winter may have just begun...
In a country where thousands of people break the law just so they can get food and a little healthcare in prison - no, it's really not.
So given that there are 6 board members, Ilya had to have voted to oust Sam?
Pornhub 'Deeply Regrets' Hosting Girls Do Porn Content
Are all the rumors on social media sites considered out of bound on HN? They seem fairly plausible given the known circumstantial evidence floating around.
I got lasik too and got dry eyes ever since. Most eye drops started causing irritation cuz I was using them dozens of times a day. The preservative free ones were better. I use Biotrue Hydration Drops now and they are great.

Thankfully the dry eyes got a bit better after 2 or 3 years, and I only need the drops 2 or 3 times a day now, vs dozens per day in year 1.

FWIW it's a very common side effect of lasik, unfortunately. If it's really bad you might have to consider disability or at last workplace changes. I had to get a big monitor, turn up the font size, use dark mode, and lower the brightness (while maintain contrast) to be able to work again. And still need to take frequent eye breaks.
A Paraguayan here. The above claim is not entirely true.

Paraguay has access to Itaipú hydropower, and it certainly powers most of the energy grid, but not all.

There's also the Yacyretá dam, which is jointly held with Argentina, downstream from the Itaipú site on the same Paraná river. It generates quite significant amounts of electricity and Paraguay also uses some of it to power its grid.

And there's also the Acaray dam, which is wholly owned by Paraguay, in operation since 1973.

There's also a dam on the Yguazú river (not the same river than the one with the falls) which is not machinized but otherwise ready to enter production once it's equipped with turbines.

Some isolated locations on the Chaco (northern area) also run on solar power and some also on timber/wood-based plants, but these are rapidly being obsoleted by power lines coming from Itaipú.

With that provision aside, it could be said that Paraguay has been getting its electrity from wholly renewable sources since at least 1983.
Greg Brockman quitted. https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
Prediction: board resignation.

Sam Altman returns.
another crypto scam? who cares.
"Gave" is the operative term here. It only matters what will Microsoft offer in the future.

OpenAI (the board that made this decision) is still ultimately a non-profit, so it's possible that interests might not be aligned.
All low caps is faster if you need to write as fast as possible. Think news wire people reporting news like "three shots were fired at president kennedy's motorcade in downdown dallas". The old teletype machines had only one case anyway.
package.el went async in 25.1, so apparently my memory of package-list-packages locking up due to connection issues was from the many years of Emacs 24.
nice, hope there are openings in high level positions and they switch to remote

I’m never going back to Noe Valley for less than $500,000/yr and a netjets membership
Presumably Sam recused himself so not necessarily
>The South succeeded

"Seceded", you mean
i just want to dump my thoughts on internet and indicate that im on the go. orthography adds extra layer of complexity and its already pretty tough for me to force myself to write aynwhere. adhd things.
but yeah, its boomer artifact.
The screw is tightening. Britains largest newspaper has just called out ai companies on their intellectual property and content theft.

The game is over boys. The only question is how to make these types of companies pay for the crimes committed.
Yes, but in the US at least (I don't know about anywhere else, sorry), it's way too easy. If I remember correctly, the test was made for cars back in the 60s and basically every single car gets a 4 or 5 out of 5. If you've got two 4/5 cars, then one of them will surely be safer than the other, but unless the car is able to get a 5/5, there's no difference in the score.
What's expected of AI: AI progress will leave us jobless.

What's actually happed with AI: it's CEO is jobless now.
Building something on top of GPT, I am now worried.
And/or, how active they are on manifold
Really wish 5Gbps Ethernet could replace 1Gbps Ethernet. I dont know why the industry went for 2.5Gbps instead ( Ok I do, cost savings ), and WiFI 7 could already make faster real world transfer than 2.5Gbps.

Instead of further pushing mesh, we could have educated the market about putting Ethernet links, or we could have wired the house as if they were good old telephone cables.
Well, yeah, he wouldn't be allowed to participate in deliberation about his own removal.
things are moving faster than the ability of any human to keep up.
Same guy who ran a crypto scam that somehow involved scanning the retinas of third-world citizens?
Hah, that’s cute. As if that ever kept anyone from making money.
in NYC, libraries are someplace folks without homes can hang out, use computers, be out of the weather

people work remotely from libraries (free wifi in a quiet environment and you don't have to buy coffee)

libraries offer services as well, especially for immigrant populations
A bit of a strange article.

I don't know if I've ever seen anyone make the claim that Millennials are "universally" worse off than Boomers.

Usually it's just that "On Average" Millennials are worse off than Boomers, which is honestly a more interesting metric to dig into.

It's not useful to know that some Millennials are more successful than some Boomers, but it's very useful to know if the Average Millennial is worse off than the Average Boomer.
Is this not just Bing searching the web under the built in web search integration?
If you do MBA 101 they literally teach you to disclose bad news on Friday, it was definitely planned.
I don’t see any verbiage that implies Microsoft had no idea. If Microsoft was the aggressor, of course they would play dumb and disclose as little as possible.
Yup this is definitely a "our stock has fallen 2% on the news, hurry up and say something to investors!" kind of letter.
Maybe, but there's a difference between not being in the deliberation, and not being notified until the entire planet was.
You can't use multiple accounts like this, so I've banned both of these. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
_That_ is his ideology.
"the next AI winter may have just begun" -- good!

time to stop playing with existential fire. humans suffice. every flaw you see in humans will be magnified X times by an intelligence X times stronger than humans. whether it is autonomous or human lead.
Hope they fire the person that forced verified phone numbers on new accounts.
I’m not sure what you mean? We’ve been using the BUSL for years successfully. This is just an improvement (for customers) on that license.

Are you suggesting our successful business is going to all of a sudden fail now because we made the BUSL easier to understand and more clear in our goals around it?
The forgotten part of memory (2019)
Is there some weird chic thing where you intentionally don’t use capital letters? What is up with that behaviour?

Is it some cute attempt at saying “an AI didn’t write this”?
I think that opium doesn't cure loneliness.
He's actually a Terminator sent from the future to build skynet and kill Linda Hamilton, and he hid that from the board so they fired him.
For sure.

Wasn't he essentially demoted before quitting though? I guess this means he wasn't even aware he was demoted.
https://archive.li/Whti2
Try using Mistral, Lama first then see if your statement is true.
This all seems so weird, and the list of Board members doesn't make this any easier to understand. Apart from the 3 insiders, there are 3 other board members. 2 of them seem complete no names and might not qualify for any important corporate board. In a for profit shareholders in theory control the board, in a non profit I am not even sure of who really has control over things.
What about Humane recently announced AI Pin. Sam has a good chunk of equity in that company.
Also 3. Methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2 and an unbelievable amount gets leaked (especially via fracking).
THOSE MOTHERFUCKERS.

She's a plant for real.
Oh man. https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1725615804631392637?...

Really wonder what this is all about.

Edit: My bad for not expanding. Noone knows the identity of this "Jimmy Apples" but this is the latest in a series of correct leaks he's made for Open AI for months now. Suffice to say he's in the know somehow.
Downvoted, hah!
By themselves, the F150 and the Ram sell over 1.5 millions units per year.

I can not believe that yearly, ~0.7% of the US adult population needs a truck.
I posted using the twin cities metro area as my reference. Maybe in the downtown core of the cities this is true but biking in winter is not an option for the majority of the population in the combined metro area.
Moped taxi drivers want to ditch EVs and get their motorcycles back
And satya seems to have been caught off guard as well. What is happening?
You willing to slum it in a shared seat that has supported other billionaires' behinds?

I wouldn't ... but you do you!
I'm not sure which, if any, of my remarks apply to MAL specifically.

I don't have the impression that the author of the MAL project used it as a way of learning Lisp.

To my best understanding, MAL provides a step by step recipe and test cases for implementing a language dialect, plus example implementations for which that has been done.

Someone going through the MAL exercise will mainly interact with the chosen implementation language. Writing a new MAL implementation could be used as an exercise to learn some unfamiliar language.

I'm not convinced that programmers implementing MAL are actually learning how to use MAL, since it doesn't look as if the exercise requires them to write MAL code to solve problems. To learn MAL, you would take the project as-is with its integrated implementations and use that to get other work done.

Suppose someone actually learns MAL by working with it. Are they learning Lisp?

I'm not sure how much of their acquired skill will transfer to working with a mainstream Lisp. MAL looks rather like a kind of Mock Lisp (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocklisp). It's implemented even in Bash and Awk using string processing.

The good thing about MAL is that at least the participants in the exercise are following a specification instead of just making something up as they go along and calling it Lisp. Making something that is compatible with a spec and other implementations is a good exercise for software engineering students, regardless of what it is. MAL would still be valuable that way if it was, say, MAVE: make a vi editor, or MAM: make a Mario game.

I have no idea how effective MAL is educationally in teaching the concepts themselves that underpin MAL, which revolves around this question: is it possible to mechanically follow the recipe and get a new implementation working, without understanding the concepts? Separately from the question of whether MAL concepts are Lisp concepts, is the MAL implementor who follows the structured workflow learning the MAL concepts, or are they just massaging code to get some tests to pass. (But, of course, even if they are, so what; nothing stands in their way of learning any concepts they want in any other manner.)
Mr President, the second tower has been hit
Lol yeah, at the expense of their ecosystem, personal health and safety, and livelihood once the next cheapest nation gets factories online. The third world only benefits as long as the capitalist masters deem them worthy, them they're abandoned with no other economic driver
Also not a network engineer. But I'd imagine first the Tier 1 ISPs (Level 3 etc) could enable jumbo frames and make sure they work smoothly amongst each other. After a few years of waiting, new consumer devices/OSs can start trying to send jumbo frames, while setting the Don't Fragment flag. If some router in the path doesn't support 9000, it will signal back ICMP Fragmentation Needed, and the device can transparently resend with 1500. Then add some local caching to avoid the roundtrip for subsequent connections to the same noncompliant network/endpoint.

And since it's a big change anyway, why stop at 9000? Why not 65000? Packets don't have to fill the entire MTU after all. If 65000 is supported, you can choose to send 1500, 9000, or 65000 based on your desired latency/throughput tradeoff.
>Sam’s Twitter one-emoji bio is uncharacteristically brief, and points at an ongoing conflict

A Star of David emoji is not the same thing as an Israeli flag emoji.
He was removed as Chairman of the Board but was allowed to remain in his other role as President reporting to the new acting CEO, but apparently wasn't interested.

OTOH, I don't think it would surprise anyone that he would quit, and that may well have been the intent.
The "coup by MSFT" conspiracy theory made no sense. Microsoft has an insanely good deal with OpenAI:

* Exclusive access to resell OpenAI's technology and keep nearly all of that revenue for themselves, both cloud and services
* Receive 75% of OpenAI's profits up to $1 trillion

All they had to do is not rock the boat and let the golden goose keep laying eggs. A massive disruption like this, so soon after DevDay would not fit that strategy.

My guess at this point is financial malfeasance, either failing to present a deal to the board or OpenAI has been in financial straits and he was covering it up.
You are completely off base. Everything you said is a smokescreen and a retroactive narrative built by the KKK and white supremacists between the 1920s and 1960s.

The case is very simple: the South fought to keep Black people as slaves. The leaders of the confederacy lead the movement to keep black humans as enslaved property. They lost. The South put up statues of them during reconstruction and Jim crow as part of a system of legalized white supremacy to subjugate Black Americans through systematic terrorism, rape, torture, and brutality. Monuments to these leaders are celebrations of the rape, torture, and enslavement of Black people.

It's really quite simple.
A planned departure is practically never effective immediately.

If your goal is not spook investors and the public and raise doubts your company, the narrative is:

"X has decided it is time to step away from the Company, the Board is appointing Y to the position as their successor. X will remain CEO for N period to ensure a smooth transition. X remains committed to the company's mission and will stay on in an advisory role/board seat after the transition. We want to thank X for their contributions to the Company and wish them well in the future."

Even if the goal is to be rid of the person you still have them stay on in a mostly made-up advisory role for a year or so, and then they can quietly quit that.
If we redefine the meaning of words then anything is true.
Richard Stallman, is that you? I didn’t think you posted on HN.
On lying: There's a great irony here. Altman apparently accepted[1] "Hawking Fellowship Award on behalf of OpenAI" at the University of Cambridge.

I kid you not, sitting in a fancy seat, Altman is talking about "Platonic ideals". See the penultimate question on whether AI should be prescriptive or descriptive about human rights (around 1h 35sec mark). I'll let you decide what to make of it.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpNG0CJRMM&t=3632s
Greg Brockman Leaves OpenAI
No. The greater majority of people end up out of pocket.

For those extremely fortunate people who do win the lottery, their gains are very short lived, except for an exceedingly small percentage of those lucky people who can turn their lives around.

At a rough guess, I'd say one in a hundred thousand lottery winners would keep their winnings more than a few years, before they revert to their previous socio-economic level in life.

I know of one relative who inherited 250 thousand dollars. Instead of putting that money into a house or something solid, he went through all of it as well as some thirty grand more on credit cards within 2 and a half years. And then rang me asking to borrow a few thousand for his rent.
> Is there some weird chic thing where you intentionally don’t use capital letters? What is up with that ridiculous behaviour?

I was wondering the same thing. Always, on purpose, avoiding starting sentences with capital letters. Both this guy and Sam Altman. What ... why ... ?
I’m not sure I’d say dominated (PV is still 40-60% of the installed cost of a utility scale plant), but your def on that labor, power electronics etc. have eaten much of the gains of cheaper/efficient PV
Compared to Tesla, it seems Volvo’s gone a different route. While they don’t mention the total range, the trial distance being ~70km one way (with 12 hr/day duty cycle) suggests they might be targeting low distance heavy transport.

Semi’s high range means it needs a bigger battery, combined with the non-stop use takes a large toll on them. Someone in the other post speculates the cost of replacing them could be $170k. Volvo’s model likely gets around that with smaller batteries - leading to lower cost of maintenance.
His last sentence is the main hint. Disagreement over dangers of AGI discoveries and how to handle I’d guess.
Why would he recuse himself? Sam seemed happy to work at OpenAI.

FWIW, radio silence from Ilya on twitter https://twitter.com/ilyasut
How do I profit from this news. Should I buy or sell MSFT?
Tesla owner in California since 2020. For the most part, you don't need an ICE car for long road trips anymore. Even in places like Big Sur, Mendocino, there are superchargers. Even in the worst situations, like near Carmel, rolling up to a supercharger on a busy weekend that's packed, with a line of a dozen cars, you're still in an out in an amount of time I normally see with rest stops. Biggest problem for me has always been just wrangling everyone back into the car!

I've almost never spent longer than 15 minutes charging on long car trips, unless we're also going to a restaurant. And even then, we usually don't have to, and could have made it a 15 minute stop if we wanted to. Most of the time, the car is done charging enough faster than we could stop for coffee, and I have to extend the charge using my app.

That said, there was one occasion in a trip through Big Sur, when the Ventana supercharger went offline, when I did a 45 minute charge session, and I drove 30 minutes out of the way to catch a supercharger on another occasion. So 2 occasions like that in nearly 3 years.

The situation is pretty good now. In another few years, it will be even better!
what a fucking ridiculous statement - sam altman is just a YC VC machine man, and I'm sure openai can find another CTO in the hottest ML market in history.
As I said yesterday, if he expressed this opinion in the abstract it wouldn't be that controversial. It's the fact that he gave an uncritical endorsement to an explicitly anti-semitic white nationalist conspiracy theory first that caused people to recoil. The more anodyne follow-up (a few tweets of Musk beefing about the ADL were deliberately making him look bad) is imho just a rhetorical gambit; it wouldn't have attracted a fraction of the attention if posted in isolation.

X's apparent rise in the status of its advertisement real estate

that's an interesting way to describe running more and cheaper ads to make up for the loss of revenue.
> not consistently candid in his communications

We expect him to lie whenever the board thinks it's necessary and we expect him to tell the truth whenever it fits the narrative.

We also expect him to play along, even when some feature is too freaking powerful or so fucking pathetic it would only make marketing people and influencers drop their panties and write 15.000 fucking newsletters about it because PR.

The company is about money and he simply didn't prioritize that. He tried to blow it up, exalted, exaggerated, trying to make people aware of the fact that OpenAI has no edge on the competition at all.

There are so many options and OpenAI got waaaaaaay too much attention.
What are the rumors? In this case I think nothing is out of bound, including Skynet in the building.
Yea, I'm not a fan. I'm not grammar nazi but it makes reading a bit unpleasant.
https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559?t=7pBJMgg...

Greg reigned. Things are happening fr
40km/h is ridiculous speed for bicycle paths, shared paths and sidewalks. Here ebikes are regulated to only assist you up to 25km/h.
> call every household in her state until I reach her mom

Sounds like you don't have her mom's phone number but you want to call 100.000s of phone numbers? Would you like to be the receiver of many robocalls? I can't fathom why you'd think that project would be ok.
Apple was very far from running laps around its competition when Jobs was fired
why? you should always assume that your dependencies might go down, or shut up shop, or become your competitor.
I say "listen to women" and "take women seriously"
Not quite a behemoth but there is already a 120 ton mining EV:

https://www.emining.ch/
Given Greg seems to not have known about the board meeting there's a good chance Mira didn't either. Is she next?
The board does and they are not supposed to have a financial stake in the non-profit. Usually they just vote their friends on. Welcome to the loony tunes that is nonprofit management.

Clearly Microsoft staked its whole product roadmap on 4 random people with no financial skin in the game.
personally i just find this easier to read. capitalization breaks flow and parsing for me.
Which could well be an indication they did not know this was going to happen...
That was a more in-depth response than I could have possibly hoped for. Thank you!
Skunkworks in the basement achieved AGI 6 months ago. Board left in the dark until they got an eight-figure electric bill. Now the entire company is in the dark.

I mean, if they don't come out and explain what happened, they can't be surprised when people "hallucinate" all kinds of random, preposterous explanations.
It's apples to oranges, of course.

Apple is one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world, and China is one of its most important markets. According to Apple's 2023 annual report, China accounted for 14.6% of its total revenue, or $42.5 billion, making it the third-largest region after the Americas and Europe. Apple also relies on China for its supply chain, as many of its products are manufactured or assembled by Chinese companies such as Foxconn and Lens Technology.

Obviously, Apple tolerates China's human rights abuses because of its financial interest and dependence on the Chinese market and suppliers.
They related to his personal and familial life and are about as bad as it gets, well apart from murder and torture or something, but fairly close.
I did both. ;)
It might be related to this: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/09/microsoft-restricts-employee...

Microsoft had inside information about their security, which is why they restricted access. Meanwhile, every other enterprise and gov organisation using ChatGPT is exposed.
So does that mean that a woman with uterus didelphys is no more likely than any other woman to release two eggs during ovulation?
Yeah I think this makes the most sense