skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
"LLMs do not directly model the world; they train on and model what people write about the world"

This is true. But human brains don't directly model the world either, they form an internal model based on what comes in through their senses. Humans have the advantage of being more "multi-modal," but that doesn't mean that they get more information or better information.

Much of my "modeling of the world" comes from the fact that I've read a lot of text. But of course I haven't read even a tiny fraction of what GPT4 has.

That said, LLMs can already train on images, as GPT4-V does. And the image generators as well do this, it's just a matter of time before the two are fully integrated. Later we'll see a lot more training on video and sound, and it all being integrated into a single model.
neither has he. Sam built nothing.
155mph should be enough for anybody https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2006/12/by-thy-speed-limit...
Yeah, USB switch for keyboard/mouse is the reason I expect to be using USB-A (or the "illegal" adapter) for few decades more.
Usb4 does not define "type-a" connectors, thus type-a by definition is not "concurrent" with type-c in the usb spec. It is deprecated/legacy (ie still in use but not supported by newer versions of the spec)
Charge an electric backhoe at the top of the hill.
Sum types are a different issue (even if somewhat related) than what I am talking about.

Even if sum types were introduced, it would not help with nil values because - as you said - backward compatibility won't be broken.

If I had the luxury of spare time to contribute, I would probably spend it switching away to another richer language instead, because it would be cheaper, solve more of my problems and with a higher degree of certainty. And that's not even mentioning the attitude and toxicity of the community compared to most of other languages facing critics and ideas.
It is rated maximum 1 bit error per 10^12 bits, which makes the chance of enough errors within a single packet to break the CRC (or to cause more than 3 retries) astronomically small.
Ask HN: How do you keep going without burning out?
Hey folks! Daily social media is part of my routine to spread the word about what I'm working on. It's awesome to see everyone's wins—it lights a fire under me. But then I hit overdrive and burn out. Takes me weeks to feel normal again. Does this happen to you? How do you keep up your energy?
Unemployment is very low in eg the US at the moment. That suggests that workers have lots of alternatives, but employers don't. Are you arguing that employers don't voluntarily hire workers, but are somehow forced to?
Did they break them up again?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38328355
It won't work
How many employees have actually quit?

And how many of them work on the models?
Unemployment is near record lows in the US.
What negative outcomes do you foresee? Surely they will build the first tower, ensure it is adequately utilized, then build the next one etc?
DegenVault, the first NFT insurance protocol begins development
Cool, park it at the track.
That's a fair point. Competition between states to attract people (and business) is good.
Don't limit the top speed of my 3.5L turbo V-8.
Give me a choice of the 1.4L engine that won't make 90 on flat ground
Union busting management would be proud.
Kings of the hand-me-down StarOffice code.
Building a type checker on global inference is the kind of thing that sounds romantic in academia - "no type definitions and yet get type checking!" - but ends up being a nightmare to use in practice.

Nilability of return values should be part of functions public interface. It shouldn't come as a surprise under certain circumstances of using the code. The problem of global inference is that it targets both the producer and the consumer of the interface at the same time, without a mediating interface definition deciding who is correct. If a producer starts returning nil and a consumer five levels downstream the call-stack happens to be using it, both the producer and caller is called out, even if that was documented public api before, just never executed. Or vice versa.

For anyone who had the great pleasure of deciphering error messages from C++ templates, you know what I'm talking about.

I understand the compromises they had to take due to language constraints and I'm sure this will be plenty useful anyway. Just sad to see that a language, often called modern and safe, having these idiosyncrasies and need such workarounds.
Wow! Irrelevant and wrong!
While this may be technically true, the reality is that when you take $10 billion from a company there are strings attached. Consultation on a decision of this magnitude is one of those strings. You can choose to push ahead anyway after this is done but dropping the news on them 1 minute before you pull the trigger is unacceptable and MSFT will go for the throat here. You can't be seen to be a company that can be treated like this at MSFT level when you have invested this much money in any org.
What you need to share, you may adorn with locks, queues, etc. But ideally you share very little.

"Possibly accessed from anywhere" is a bad design in general, and unacceptable in realtime processing, where you need to know access patterns exactly.
Comparing technology to human lifetimes doesn't seem very relevant. Even not accounting for broad categories like "fire" or "language", we're still using individual technology from "long ago" like knives, forks, pen and paper, etc. It's fine to make improvements that keep backwards compatibility (more ergonomic scissor should be able to cut the same paper), but changing connector just because it's old is unwise.

The issue of type C is that it's trying to accommodate the entire spectrum of applications from very high bandwidth to very low cost. The range of possibilities has much increased since when Universal Serial Bus was devised, thus many recent solutions feel like they're bad at everything and good at nothing. Perhaps we should allow the specialization of type A as a cheap, reliable, slow, high power, connector, and save type C for only when high throughput is needed?
I feel like that’s going to be quite expensive as a honeypot. Running LLM against all the script kiddies out there.
These are FalungGong. I will not trust Falun Gong's news on China. They are known to create conspiracy stories.
They aren't saying demand is constant. They're saying that all peoole have different utility curves, and some people are at their most efficient point on the curve when they spend all their day ealkimg in nature, with their demand being periodic walking shoes and food.

Such a person may not need to produce because their savings exceeds their total expected lifetime demand. And even if they had 80% of their assets invested, thry still may want a 20% cash buffer in case their investments go belly-up. Most people call this an emergency fund.

The idea of expiring money is plain dumb. We don't need to artifically increase the velocity of money. We don't need to increase demand for assets because people have time-constrained purchase windows. All that would do is lead to a lot of poor decisions as people scramble to find the most efficient ways to convert the expiring money into convertable value stores. Of course this would just increase demand and make those value stores more expensive. Some will be able to arbitrage market inefficiencies. I bet a whole lot more would just lose.

How would you save up cash for a good investment opportunity if it just died? How would people save for house down payments or businesses? So dumb.

Before publishing thr above, I decided to try reading the article. This Gisell dude is an idiot. Here is an example, and where I stopped reading

> The faults of money go further, Gesell wrote. When small businesses take out loans from banks, they must pay the banks interest on those loans, which means they must raise prices or cut wages. Thus, interest is a private gain at a public cost.

There is no public cost! The private bank lent money to someone they expect to pay it back. They make money if they're paid back and lose money if they don't.

The business, which would not exist without the loan, opens and brings more supply to the market. Increasing supply lowers prices (public benefits). The business emoloyes people. Those people choose to be employed at a given rate, even if that rate is lower than it could be if the business, which would not exist without the loan, didn't have to pay interest on its loan. (job creation: public benefits). The alternative presented is raising costs of goods. Okay... Either they raise them too high and have no customers and then go out of business and all concerns are washed, or they have higher prices than otherwise. But otherwise means there's no business and nothing to buy anyway, so here again thr public clearly wins. The only maybe scenario for public loss is if thr bank makes a loan thay isn't repaid. But obviously this is expected to happen from time to time, so either the losses are absorbed by the other profitable loans or the bank eventually goes out of business. Big deal. That's part of choosing a bank for bank consumers.
I was in the Army for a few years. Back in those days, they trained us not to quit.
That’s why you don’t hire people you wouldn’t trust to make a ham sandwich onto the board of a 100B+ company.
That's an amazing headline.
That modal popup can be blocked as well. Ad blockers have element pickers for a reason. No need to wait for some official lists updates.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Just because you shouldn't doesn't mean you always shouldn't.
> ... but changing connector just because it's old is unwise

Well not because it's old, I'm a huge fan of my 1/8" headphone jack.

Type C is intentionally significantly more functional (not to mention the ergonomics of reversibility) but also fully backwards-compatible requiring only passive routing to get you a Type A adapter.

> The issue of type C is that it's trying to accommodate the entire spectrum of applications from very high bandwidth to very low cost.

That's up to the host. You can support just USB 2.0 with the same signals routed as a vanilla type A connector.

There's even super cheap USB-C receptacles that only have the relevant USB 2.0 pins routed out. Like this one [1].

There's really no reason I can think of not to use one.

[1] https://www.digikey.ca/en/products/detail/gct/USB4125-GF-A/1...
Nope.

Good try though.
It's also worth remembering that Sam Altman is also seeking to get out of this with his reputation and ego in one piece. Definitely in his interest to be able to portray the board as coming crawling back to him after kicking him out the door, even if that is, well, less than candid communication of what has happened.

And the evidence that we've seen so far doesn't refute the idea that the board isn't seriously considering taking him back on. The statements we've seen are entirely consistent with "there was a petition to bring him back sent to the board and nothing happened after that."
Yeah, Sam will not turn 40billion into 0 billion
i would disagree. i thjnk the safety concerns and conversations from the companies serving AI services are misguided simply because the companies know what they want to do with it (advertising based on user data and input) but they have no idea how to accurately predict all the unexpected or undesired responses from the AIs. they know there is likely some potential revenue there but they aren’t sure how to make the AI comply with regulations.

they already have processes for manipulating results and have a trained and likely tagged data set of “bad” things the AI shouldn’t return. if they don’t want the ai telling how to do illegal stuff they will just not include that in its dataset. if the ai “learns” this, that’s responsibility of the user likely in the clause. they will simply document how it was trained and true expected results, add clause on “if you don’t wanna see disturbing responses don’t ask disturbing questions for it to find he answer to”, and probably it will be enough unless the ai gets really combative and destructive.

i really don’t thjnk this about safety at all, it’s trying to seed the idea that the ai companies are at all concerned about violating existing privacy regulations that Meta et. al. already are bumping against.

obviously it’s supposition but i thjnk this is far likelier what they’re worried on and what all this “safety” talk is about. they just want plausible deniability to be seeded before the first lawsuits come.
The board is getting pressured like so..

The playbook, a source told Forbes would be straightforward: make OpenAI’s new management, under acting CEO Mira Murati and the remaining board, accept that their situation was untenable through a combination of mass revolt by senior researchers, withheld cloud computing credits from Microsoft, and a potential lawsuit from investors.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/18/openai-in...
I am probably close to an engineer like you describe them.

But managers you describe are, to repeat your words, so tiresomely dumb, that they think they could have a sustainable business without such engineers.

I have left seemingly successful tech companies and 6 months - 2 years later they were bancrupt. I won't claim just because of me leaving, but because of enough engineers getting fed up with management and their originally great product detoriating quickly.

The advantage for me as an engineer is that I valuable creative working environment over getting rich and powerful.
I agree that the act of voting itself is too squishy/personal, but the things that led up to it and their handling afterwards?

My curiosity stems from whether the board was involved in signing the contract for Microsoft's investment in the for-profit entity, and where the state might set the bar for fraud or similar crimes. How was the vote organized? Did any of them put anything in writing suggesting they did not intend to honor all of the terms of the agreement? Did the manner in which they conducted this business rise the level of being criminally negligent in their fiduciary duty?

I feel like there are a lot of exciting possibilities for criminality here that have little to do with the vote itself.

... and also +1 to your whole last paragraph.
> Not everyone on the internet is trying to win an argument.

You're right. Not everyone is. You definitely were, though, when you wrote this comment.
Last year, I puzzled over how to watch my local sports team of choice and got mired in questions about streaming services and local blackouts and licensing. Then I bought a ten dollar antenna for my TV.
never heard of a unions? staff can have power too. and often they do prevent wrongful firings.
Manley's fluid hammer theory from rapid shutdown is compelling. Also would explain the large vapor clouds; plumbing exploded.
Well Steve started a new company called Next Computer when he was fired from Apple.

May be Sam could start NextAI ?
Also, most of the human race has an instinctual aversion to plotters and machinations. The board's sudden and rather dubious (why the need to bad-mouth Altman?) actions probably didn't sit well with many.

Dante places Brutus in the lowest circle of hell, while Cato is placed outside of hell altogether, even if both fought for the same thing. Sometimes means matter more than ends.

If the whole process had been more regular, they could have removed Altman with little drama.
The optimal strategy can be determined from the current state. This is the principle behind minimax.

In a perfect information zero sum game, we can theoretically draw a complete game tree, each terminal node ending with a win, loss, or draw. With a full understanding of the game tree we can make moves to minimize our opponent’s best move.
at this point returning would make the situation worse. better a completely fresh start if openai is to have a future.
Why did the board fire Sam in such a weird way? It shows that they are the wrong people for the job. If they wanted to get rid of him they should have done a better job than alienating everyone at the company.
> If you want to get money moving in the economy again, we already know how to do that. Tax the shit out of the wealthy in such a way that they can't weasel out of it, and turn that money over to the people, be it through hiring them for public works projects, more and wider spread research grants, Universal Basic Income, or economic stimulus.

Yes, you will indeed increase the velocity of money if you steal it from people. But that is typically short lived and not sustained.

It tends to be better to allow those wealthy folks with capital to use it to create new businesses that then have the same effect, and the benefit is that this solution is pareto optimal since it's composed of voluntary transactions.
> now we have multiple hundreds of dollars thunderbolt cables

This is mostly an exaggeration.

Apple has a $160 3m 40Gbps cable but Cable Matters has the same for $70 (and Trebleet has a 2.5m one for $50).

The 25 feet 40gbps cable from Pure Fi is the only I can think of that fits the "multiple hundreds' description at $200 but then again it's an active optical cable (it's not compatible with plain USB).

> the cap on the actual receptacle component is below $10 even for ones with support for higher speeds.

Maybe the actual C connector they started with is below $10 but you are looking at rather expensive redriver chips inside and careful engineering to care for the signal integrity at 40gbps.
Trump Heights
Plus you get extra tonnage from not having to save enough fuel for landing.
As I had read that it was, I went searching for more authority and it looks like it was and it wasn't as best I can try to figure out from this article

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_genitive
I mean this game is a rip-off of
https://matthias-research.github.io/pages/tenMinutePhysics/i...
So if you like the game then give the Matthias Müller-Fischer some love.
Leaving aside the question of justification, one of the mysteries of life in the United States is that with so much gun violence there is so little of what you describe.
Seems relevant: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=parasociopat...
Can a superintelligence ever be merely a tool?
> However, I imagine the hard part, if it comes to that, will be determining which code is which.

One day someone much smarter than me will invent an AI ad blocker which will do stuff like that automatically. Just imagine it. An AI that automatically filters ads, brands and other forms of noise in real time. It'd even work on audio and video. Hell, it'd work on real life through augmented reality glasses or something. If I can imagine it, then it must be possible.

> Google's under no obligation to keep it as easy as it is now

Actually they kind of are due to accessibility laws. Everything you proposed means rolling back literally every single one of the hard won advances in web accessibility. Everything that enables assistive technology also enables bots, scripts, automated access. I bet they really hate those users because of that.

> I suspect they've barely begun to try.

Yawn. Trillion dollar copyright industry has been playing this exact same cat and mouse game with copyright infringement for literally decades now. You're telling me Google's gonna win this?

Everyone who has any respect for the word "hacker" and what it stands for better hope they give up. There's only one way for them to win and that's by owning our computers. Devices must be literally physically cryptographically unable to run software that hurts their bottom line for them to win.
I first played it as dungeon on a vax, I believe it was the fortran version.

One detail I vividly remember is reading a listing deep in some cavern that said something about MEMQ
I'm on the "Just buy Premium" train, but your's is a poor example; one thing is illegal, the other is not.
Non-zero time, but not a lot either. Main hangup would be acquiring data for training, as their engineers would remember the parameters for GPT-4 and Microsoft would provide the GPUs. But Microsoft with access to Bing and all its other services ought to be able to help here too.

Amateurs on hugging face are able to match OpenAI in impressively short time. The actual former-OpenAI engineers with unlimited budget ought to be able to do as good or better.
I think most people don't understand the concept of if you want to succeed, fail faster.

It's valid (and explained well and often) but counterintuitive.

(And with mundane tasks, it's less applicable, as with them, it's reasonable to expect that when competent people attempt them, they generally get done correctly.)
Achtung Poolizei!
It always starts out with a “noble cause”. Maybe tracking AMBER alert vehicles. Then a few years more and suddenly your car won’t start because you posted non-sanctioned views on meta-threads and now your Google or Apple car refuses to “do business with you”. Or perhaps few own cars relying on self driving taxis who won’t let you access the Uber-Tesla app.
You need alignment for it to do anything useful in the first place; base models are very hard to control. Alignment is just engineering.
There is a difference between "my lawyers advised me that it was probably ok" and "Microsoft's legal team spent 100,000 billable hours pouring over case law to demonstrate that it was not, in fact, ok."

> I don't think OpenAI board has any responsibility to care for Microsoft's stock price.

They control an entity that accepted $10B from Microsoft. Someone signed that term sheet.
Some companies will suffer like those making standard parts in analog and mixed-signal but overall I think US companies will do okay. Most are not manufacturers with fab operations already outsourced and they have wider choice of fabs than their potential Chinese competitors. The downside is that they will lose Chinese OEM customers who now fear to depend on them. This will be particularly pronounced in consumer electronics.
I did something similar about 15 years ago. They weren't as complex back then, and there was more effort to obfuscate them.

Mostly they came from Israeli Chinese and Russian IP addresses.
And my 38th! Thanks for reminding me that me and Bob share it!
It makes the most sense if you value your own wellbeing over whatever “mission” a company is supposedly chasing.
If this wasn’t a coup, what would have made it one?
This sort of prediction is by its nature speculative. The argument is not--or should not--be certain doom. But rather that the uncertainty on outcomes is so large that even extreme tails has nontrivial weight
Once you take in 10 billions then it’s pretty much the opposite, legality is the only things that matter.
ASCII-Gen, a CLI tool that converts images to ASCII art
Protip: I usually add a hidden input field to my forms. As it is hidden a normal user should not be able to fill it out, only a bot will. So if the hidden input isn't empty, I can disregard it as spam, it works wonders.