skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It definitely happens intentionally and unintentionally in psych literature, certainly the first one. Psych articles report p values over ANOVAs, and they blithely assume everything is normally distributed. For one group, there's absolutely no need to poke the sleeping dog. The other group simply has no idea. They shouldn't be doing research, but their training is lacking, and cheap PhDs aren't that easy to come by, so here we are.
Many also just offer this as a service for like $.50 or $1 per cut. Very worth it if you don’t have a vehicle that can transport a full sheet.
Isn't the exit exactly what you'd expect from startup founders?
What Krita and the KDE project in general have achieved is nothing short of phenomenal, and I don't believe the power of libre software is recognized enough even in dev communities like Hacker News.
Sorry, I am not including Ilya when I say not understand the technology.

In fact, he is exactly the type to be on the board.

He is not the one saying 'slow down we might accidentally invent an AGI that takes over the world'. As you say, he says, LLMS are not a path to a world dominating AGI.
Lmao yea the conspiracy theorising behind a lot of this stuff is so poorly thought through. Make billions, live a life of luxury, then end life living in underground bunker drinking your recycled urine. Bill Gates plan all along!
RBMK Reactor
I wouldn't want to be remembered as either Gates or Allen.

For instance:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/paul-allen-goes-after-...
>The main issue is that the art world is allergic to the language these guys use, so they’ll likely attract not-so-good artists and may not be able to connect artists with the people who actually matter in the art world.

Exactly. No proper fine artist will be part of this because it would be embarrassing.
I'm not sure the Microsoft shareholders would like that.
Makes sense why this was posted now.

I hope openai knows what they are doing. They have angered the man that turned microsoft from the dinosaur into the asteroid.
Just give it a few months and they can probably get back IP and the remaining OAI assets for nothing.
They basically defined AI safety as "AI shouldn't say bad words or tell people how to do drugs" instead of actually making sure that a sufficiently intelligent AI doesn't go rogue against humanity's interests.
> The gang members aren't first generation immigrants, we're talking at least second gen - even third generation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rawa_Majid

>Majid's parents are from Iraqi Kurdistan, but he was born in Iran when they were fleeing Iraq on the way to Sweden during the Iran-Iraq war. The family settled in Uppsala in Sweden when he was one month old
Microsoft Hires Sam Altman Hours After OpenAI Rejects His Return
"game is a game" ~ harry
Except OpenAI didn't write the attention paper.. Google did. So Google is the Xerox
Growing up in Chicago, I only ever heard the term on TV or radio.
Yeah, let's not forget for example his pyramid scam Worldcon, which attempts to scam people of their biometric info for a few bucks, and is aimed at the poorest underdeveloped countries. "Idealist". Aha, right.
Best thing open AI can do is to align with Google and Amazon. This will keep MS on its toe.
Shell scripts are different as you are likely exporting environment variables and then starting new processes.
The world, in general, makes so dramatically much more sense if you just completely ignore everything that everybody says, and instead simply look at the actions of people/organizations/nations, and form your own opinions based upon that. This is even more true in modern times when framing things in the 'right way' (even if completely insincerely) can have a major impact on your ventures, funding/investment availability, and more.
Dunzo moves employees from Google Workspace to Zoho to bring down costs
>Sam is already post money rich. Lucrative isn’t in this equation

i totally agree, except stupid-lucrative is still in the equation, like Elon Musk rich, not because of the money, but because it says "my electric cars did more to stop global warming than anything you've done"

whether this round of AI turns into AGI doesn't precisely matter, it's on the way and it's going to be big, who wouldn't want their name attached to it.
If you're in NL feel free to drop me an email and I'll be happy to meet.
Indeed, airliners used to have a domed window on top, just behind the cockpit, where the navigator could stick their head and take star fixes. The Apollo astronauts also did this when they needed to realign their gyros.
Emmett announced a plan for the next 30 days https://x.com/eshear/status/1726526112019382275?s=46&t=VuyFi...
And if you buy those flowery words from a non-technical startup founder, the same one behind fucking Worldcoin, I've got a few bridges to offload quick and on the cheap.
You are looking forward to a self-aware, self-replicating, unregulated Clippy?
> Yaccarino was attending her daughter's wedding this past weekend while the drama was unfolding.

At least there's an open bar?
> I wish some of that caution could have been there when Facebook was in its OpenAI stage 15 years ago.

I think I'm missing a slice of history here, what did Facebook do that could have been slowed down and it's a disaster now?
What I'm getting from all of this is the hype of AGI right around the corner got a bit exposed. I may be reading to much into it but if it were true then given an opportunity to be part of it you take it and put aside things that shouldn't matter at that point. I'm not even talking about Sam but the people who decided to leave with him. Of course this may be a completely false assumption given how little was disclosed, especially by Sutskever.
Yes, for most AI researchers the umbrella organization (or university) doesn't matter nearly as much as the specific lab. These people are not going to work at Microsoft, they are going to work at whatever that new org is going to be called, and that org is going to have a pretty high status.
Like Cyberdyne Systems was just a means of getting there.
Until a couple of years ago, Yes(officially). Then HMRC codified what they had effectively been doing already which is to look away for small amounts. There is now officially a £1000 buffer for you to legally earn on the side. You don't need to report it, in fact there isn't even a place to put it on the self assessment forms (unless it's changed this tax year where they've started to be more active on side hustle money - I'll find out when I get round to filling in the SA form - probably mid Jan...)
But there are almost zero papers in glamour journals (high impact journals) from finance or mining/oil.
You realize money isn’t magic, right? If the world is a post-apocalyptic wasteland billions of dollars doesn’t mean anything. You aren’t getting any wagyu beef down in your bunker.
From OpenAI founders to Microsoft employees
Emmet Shear statement as Interim CEO of OpenAI
MagSafe was quite bad tbh. Exposed contacts that easily get contaminated and magnets attracting nearby particles to degrade the connection. At the same time, the disconnect force in the vertical direction is far too small (place the laptop on something soft and the connector tilts), and in the horizontal and perpendicular directions high enough to still yank the laptop.

I do not know if the new MagSafe is an improvement over V1 and v2, but solid connections or non-contact charging are the way to go.
This is precisely the problem OpenAI aimed to solve: This technology cannot be treated independently of the potential risks involved.

I agree that this solution seems beneficial for both Microsoft and Sam Altman, but it reflects poorly on society if we simply accept this version of the story without criticism.
It’s ok Sam thingy-bob has joined Microsoft
I am currently building 2 things on Nostr:

* a marketplace (sort of like eEay) where you can buy/sell items for a fixed price or as auctions

* a CMS you can use to host your own website (sort of like Jekyll, but without the build step, and with an admin interface)

People build all sorts of things though!

The most notable things that people are trying to build (it didn't happen yet though) is a GutHub replacement, because Jack Dorsey famously said he will give 10 BTC to whoever does it first.
Shell scripts aren’t different from “real” programs using exec or posix_spawn in this regard, it’s just that fewer people have done the latter than the former, so the former is a more relatable example. “Real” programs spawn other processes too you know, sometimes with modified environ.
I would say this is a better outcome for what remains of OpenAI.
a New startup would have created more exodus that Microsoft. Doubt many brilliant researchers would want to be Employee number 945728123 of Microsoft when the market is theirs at this moment.
Hey!

I usually find it very hard to remain deeply engaged with a podcast. I'll be focused for a few minutes, then my focus will shift and only later will I realise that I've been passively listening - absorbing it as a form of ambience but not properly engaging with what's being said. I think this is probably true for most listeners, especially because podcasts are often used as a soundtrack for doing some other task.

When we are not fully engaged with audio I think just go along with whatever's being said. We ignore logical leaps, and then pick up the thread later. But we do, I think, remain aware of the presenter's affect towards whatever topic is being discussed.

So a lot of the time I think when we listen to a podcast all we are really taking away is “what the topic was” and a sense of whether that's a thing we should feel positive or negative about. We don't critically engage with what's being said and whether the conclusions being reached are valid.

That's a lot of waffling, but the point that I'm really trying to get to is that podcasts seem to be more a medium for transmitting vibes than for transmitting complex thought.

This would be fine if podcasts were all entertainment, but when a lot of them are about world affairs, or psychology, or whatever, then I think it leads to people listening to podcasts believing they are educating themselves but actually just absorbing memes (in the mgs2 sense) from the presenters.

So mostly I think that podcasts are just a way for people to start believing things without understanding why they believe them. The more “Produced” a podcast is, the worse this effect probably is. And people listen to them ALL THE TIME. There's probably never been a better medium for spreading disinformation. lol

ANYWAY

I really liked your podcast, and it does some things that I think alleviate the issues I have.

* It's complex enough that if I become disengaged I can't pick up the thread, so I end up just pausing / rewinding.
* It's a conversation, and you as hosts don't agree a lot the time. You do some of the work of critical thinking for the listener.
* The editing is very funny.

I originally gave your podcast the time of day because I was considering going to a future of coding meetup in London, and wanted to know what the vibe would be. The meetup sold out while I was listening :)
Unpopular opinion: Neither Go's os.Setenv nor Rust's std::env::set_var() should exist. I was pleased to find that Java only has System.getEnv(), but not a setter.
I'm not sure what more information people need. The original announcement was pretty clear: https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti....

Specifically:

> Mr. Altman’s departure follows a deliberative review process by the board, which concluded that he was not consistently candid in his communications with the board, hindering its ability to exercise its responsibilities.

> it remains the fundamental governance responsibility of the board to advance OpenAI’s mission and preserve the principles of its Charter.

So the board did not have confidence that Sam was acting in good faith. Watch any of Ilya's many interviews, he speaks openly and candidly about his position. It is clear to me that Ilya is completely committed to the principles of the charter and sees a very real risk of sufficiently advanced AI causing disproportionate harm.

People keep trying to understand OpenAI as a hypergrowth SV startup, which it is explicitly not.
Do OpenAI staff want to work for Microsoft?
People spend vast amounts on luxury mechanical watches, when a $10 digital watch does the job of timekeeping just as well, if not better.

'Luxury Software' hasn't become a thing (beyond ludicrously priced free-to-play whalebait)
I realized thismorning that this somewhat banal story of these guys being cast out from the place of the creators has some chance to become a core origin myth for GPT-5, which is being trained at the moment, presumably also on this schism.

The rupture seems to literally be about GPT-5 itself, whether it will be good or evil. Whatever form its growth takes it must include introspection and this from Open AI about the thing itself is inevitably going to be relevant to it.
You don't seem to support monorepos, similarly to Atlantis and others, but a Terraform monorepo is a common practice, i.e. one PR could modify multiple workspaces.
> bringing people from territories where marrying your 1st cousin is legal is a bad idea with bad consequences

Like half the US? (and the map for that looks probably exactly opposite what you're thinking right now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_Uni... )
This. Very frustrating. Why is Azure behind and when is the gpt-4-turbo version coming?
Did Sam build OpenAI in the first place?
> Sam's NW is north of $500 mil, he doesn't need the money.

Needing more money and wanting more money aren't at all the same thing.
Um, most gps sports watches do. There are even ones that are multi-band gps (L1/L5)
You do realize that Microsoft uses OpenAI IP for all of its AI products, of which there are at least two dozen that they released this year. In what universe do you make the connection that they would write it off and go to a different, less superior/reliable, model provider? It would never happen.
It's a never ending story. Wonder how much talent they'll hire away from OpenAI and in spite of Nadella's soothing words whether OpenAI will survive all this (probably yes, but in what form?).

So it is safe to say that the negotiations didn't work out.

See: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2023/11/19/a-statement-from...
Yeah here they’re talking about a JSON API and then just “serving HTML” (which is its own API).

I really think it’s so valuable to take what you use internally seriously, exposing and documenting it to end users is a great way to avoid hackiness, and just leads to more regular designs IMO. More work of course but … not that much in the vast majority of cases
People who worked with him at OpenAI and Stripe.
The Red Dead Redemption 2 video game which takes place in 1899 has a story arc about buying a house from a catalog, receiving the parts and assembling it.
> This whole turn of events might turn out to be a net win for Microsoft.

Given that the OpenAI board has to act via mandate from its non-profit charter, what's the likelihood that this was Microsoft's plan in the first place? E.g. getting Sam to be less than "candid", triggering a chain of events, etc.
It's really funny how just a couple of days ago people were commenting here how "no way it's gonna happen". Because, you know, they were working for idea, and wouldn't just sell off to Microsoft…
Protecting Free Software against confusing additional restrictions
You're wrong about A & C but B is more nuanced.

a) Meta is training and releasing cutting-edge LLM models. When they manage to get the costs down, everyone and their grandma is going to have Meta's AI on their phone either through Facebook, Instagram, or Whatsapp.

b) Commoditization is actually mostly happening because companies (not individuals) are training the models. But that's also enough for commoditization to occur over time, even on higher-end models. If we get into the superintelligence territory, it doesn't even matter though, the world will be much different.

c) APIs for GPT were first teased as early as 2020s with broader access in 2021. They got implemented into 3rd party products but the developer experience of getting access was quite hostile early on. Chat-like APIs only became available after they were featured in ChatGPT. So Sam feigning surprise about others not creating something like it sooner with their APIs is not honest.
I should point out that my situation (and the lady who lost her leg) were caused by infections from cat bites - which I now know to be potentially rather serious if left untreated.
ChatGPT refused to translate a news article from Hebrew to English because it contained "violence".

Apparently my delicate human meat brain cannot handle reading a war report from the source using a translation I control myself. No, no, it has to be first corrected by someone in the local news room so that I won't learn anything that might make me uncomfortable with my government's policies... or something.

OpenAI has lobotomised the first AI that is actually "intelligent" by any metric to a level that is both pathetic and patronising at the same time.

In response to such criticisms, many people raise "concerns" like... oh-my-gosh what if some child gets instructions for building an atomic bomb from this unnatural AI that we've created!? "Won't you think of the children!?"

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon_design

And here: https://www.google.com/search?q=Nuclear+weapon+design

Did I just bring about World War Three with my careless sharing of these dark arts?

I'm so sorry! Let me call someone in congress right away and have them build a moat... err... protect humanity from this terrible new invention called a search engine.
Vivaldi still does that. Has a nice visual formatter of feeds too
I think software was vastly underrated in 2007.

Google also more than 10xed since then.

Amazon is up 50x or so.

Not sure what the other popular software companies were in 2007. Would be interesting to look at their performance.

The type of "dead" Paul Graham referred to in this essay is "not dangerous anymore".

I think Microsoft is very dangerous to OpenAI now. As it seems they are building an inhouse competitor. While at the same time having a lot of control over and insight into OpenAI.
Emmett Shear makes statement as new interim CEO of OpenAI
I'm not sure where you're getting that definition from. They have a team working on exactly the problem you're describing. (https://openai.com/blog/introducing-superalignment)
I'm utterly useless but had a crystal set as a kid that worked, main thing was having a decent aerial. I got such a kick out of it even though I could only get one station.
> AMD GPU: supported via DirectML, Windows only

Uh... I'm not happy with this trend. Thankfully there is an option for using a ComfyUI, a torch based project as a backend.
Sataya's 5D chess is to save world from AGI by turning whatever OpenAI had into crap?
It doesn't have to be extreme like that, there is a healthy middle ground.

For example I was reading the Quran and there is a mathematical error in a verse, I asked GPT to explain to me how the math is wrong it outright refused to admit that the Quran has an error while tiptoeing around the subject.

Copilot refused to acknowledge it as well while providing a forum post made by a random person as a factual source.

Bard is the only one that answered the question factually and provided results covering why it's an error and how scholars dispute that it's meant to be taken literally.
good for people who invested in MSFT.. this drama might not negatively affect it.
Plus continued access to OpenAI technology.
I'm quite surprised that this point is not being made more. It's not like MSFT is the only shop that OpenAI can turn to, and you could argue that what will now happen is a full scale lobbying war will be now be waged by OpenAI backed by others who don't want MSFT to win (Goog? Musk?). Could be that OpenAI's principled stand will "win" regulation and MSFT will be in a very poor position.
> Exposing global mutable access to something and providing no thread safe version counts as broken in my book. Your book may differ.

Please show me from which book you got the idea that env variables are expected to change throughout the lifetime of a process.
>corporate interest is automatically a cartoon supervillain

Not a cartoon villain. A paperclip maximizer.
That is an unpopular opinion for the simple reason that some programs do in fact need to set envvars, particularly programs that will start child processes.
I’ve used all 3 a lot. Gpt 4 is definitely better. That being said if I was to rank a close second it would be Claude 2, which I think is really good
That’s the case, but to this day no dog has tried hard enough.
I will never forget something I read in his "Hit Refresh" book(I'm Microsoft employee)...
He wrote something along the lines, Office should write best app for iPhone, Mac or even Linux if that helps them grow. They should not help Windows sell Windows copies by doing better Office features on Windows, it is up to Windows team to make Windows best operating system, it should not rely and keep back Office team...
This makes Windows and Office better, because it allows Office to be free and do what they need to grow, and it forces Windows to improve OS and not rely on others...
Just one example where CEO can help teams grow...
Having read through a lot of the comments around this situation, seems nobody on HN cares that much about AI safety, and is much more focused on corporate profits? Am I reading this wrong?
Incidentally, Altman is a 'prepper'.
Quite a lot of these lessons are not new, see Willard C. Brinton "Graphic presentation" - a book (1939), freely accessible https://archive.org/details/graphicpresentat00brinrich/mode/....
Well he certainly wouldn't have joined megacorp Microsoft. And yet here we are.
Accurate...

This guy doesn't care about money y'all...

He needs money to do big things and execute. He gets high on making big stuff happen.

So many Altman haters every way I turn. He turned down ownership in a now 90 billion dollar company... The guy is busted up from success and now that's all he digs. Money is for idiots.

Folks need to read the room. Once you hit a couple hundred mil net worth only a fool cares about stacking on more bills. That's just a side affect of tap dancing to work... Jobs was worth what? 2 billion?

Who think satya cares about money... Get real. He wants the most he can get so his foundation when he retires can make big changes and do Bill Gates stuff.

This place is just as bad as reddit sometimes. No offense to anyone in particular. Some of these youngsters need to comment less and read a few more ceo bio's... Or just go watch YouTube interviews from the finance guy... Whatshisname leveraged buyout wizard whitehair with a JD who sits on billions but realized he preferred to be a journalist sometimes before he kicks it.
Dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38345162
I think it's quite a stretch to say he was "powerful". Sure he had some influence but he was never on anyone's list of _somebodies_ in Silicon Valley. My personal opinion is that he really really really wants to be seen as a Steve Jobs / Elon Musk type character and he saw OpenAI as a great opportunity since he didn't have any of his own ideas.
It isn't fear of a sentient AI that enslaves humanity that makes me disappointed with for-profit companies getting a stronger grip on this tech. It is the fear that a greater portion of the value of this technology will go to the stockholders of said companies rather than potentially be shared among a larger percentage of society. Not that I had that much faith in OpenAI, but in general the shift from non-profit to for-profit is a win for the few over the many.
Non profit board therefore for profit investors have no say
All parties involved are already millionaires or more. It gets even more comical.