skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Microsoft didn't buy them did they? I thought it was just an investment. Either way though you're right that they probably did their DD.

My first comment wasn't really about them not being profitable, it was more of a question about how close to bankruptcy they are. Again though, you're right that MSFT probably did their DD, so that's unlikely
I used to say the same thing before I got in the business of investigating [all victims'] claims.

Social media abuse claims are the female equivalent of SWATing. One well-published sob story sends a mob to kick down your door.

Don't be this naive. For your own sake, only consider believing such claims once a police report has been filed. Don't rush to judgment either way unless there's repercussions when the claimant is lying about it.
I'm not disagreeing with you, you're just wrong.

It's not reasonable to expect a project to receive updates, security fixes, and new releases for software projects the author put on the Internet explicitly with a license saying it's warrantied for no purpose, both explicit and implicit.
Her LinkedIn profile now 404's https://www.linkedin.com/in/tasha-mccauley-25475a54
The costs they create far outweigh whatever a programme to help them would cost.

We're literally giving up on social activities and safety and trust because we're not willing to meaningfully address the down and outs.
I didn't read the OP because I looked into Uruguay's previously-touted "98% renewable" last month and I doubt anything's changed.[1] I read a great study from 2022[2] and figured out the accounting trickery behind the claims.

Basically, the windmills are overbuilt past the demand, which is supplied by mostly hydroelectric and enough natgas. The wind energy is exported to neighboring Brazil and Argentina through interconnects.

[1] https://twitter.com/billbrown/status/1714311001569693749

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030142152...
It's probably simple reporting logic. Having a board member reporting to someone not on the board would be problematic.
You first point: that's not even close to being enslaved or forced to do whatever your government tells you to do under threat of imprisonment. Yes, it is very, very different.
Part of the issue is to select the right Wikipedia article. Wikidata offers a way to know for sure that you query the LLM with the right data. Also the wikipedia txtai dataset is for english only.
Pretty sure Ilya Sutskever is the most valuable out of the group
Serial was my guess, if it was in fact 9-pin. I don’t think I ever had a serial-port keyboard, but I did used to have a serial-port mouse.

Game port had more pins.
"The majority of the board is independent, and the independent directors do not hold equity in OpenAI."
Maybe one day I'll use Rust for backend dev. Everyone wants something different, but I'll use Django, and deal with Python's messiness until we get a Rust framework that has a high-level ORM, built in auth, admin, etc. And would prefer no Async.
According to Jimmy Apples(mysterious twitter account who tweets insider stuff about OpenAI) there’s been a vibe change at openai and there was a risk of losing some key ride or die openai employees. I am wondering what was this vibe change about?

Ilya Sutskever did an ominous and weird youtube for Guardian recently about the dangers of AI. Maybe it has something to do with it?
Hi HN, Yury and Michael are here to answer your questions.

2 years ago, we launched Narrative BI to make data analytics available for everyone. Since then we helped 2,500+ teams get insights from their marketing data.

Our backstory is here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33627953

We started as a freemium product and built a unique business data set. We used this dataset to launch NBI.AI - a Generative BI platform that can be connected to virtually any structured data source (unlike our previous version designed for specific data connectors).
I doubt it. HL:Alyx was quite recent, wasn't it?

They have a bunch of cancelled/unreleased games [0] because their standards are so high.

I don't think they want to be known as the company who made the best PC gaming platform in the world, but who also released some really crappy games on there.

Games are in their DNA, so I expect we'll see something absolutely amazing from them in the future.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreleased_Half-Life_games
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310168.
I had to change the brake disks on my 2014 i3 because they rusted too much as I didn’t use them enough. Remember to brake once in a while if you live in an area with salty roads.
Right I just was watching a video of him a few minutes ago at Cambridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjpNG0CJRMM

It was just posted but was filmed on November 1st.
"Shenanigans" would not be a remotely accurate way to characterize sexual assault on a minor. Not meant as a comment on the truth of these allegations, just on the accuracy of this way of characterizing them.

As far as whether this might be the cause, one possible scenario: the board hired a law firm to investigate, Sam made statements that were contradicted by credible evidence, and that was the fireable event. Brockman could have helped cover this up. Again, not saying that this is what happened but it's plausible.

BTW Rubin's $90M payout a) caused a shitstorm at Google b) was determined in part by David Drummond, later fired in part due to sexual misconduct. I would not use this as a representative example, especially since Google now has a policy against such payouts: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/andy-rubin-google-settlement-se...
Then where's the CFOs head?
Is everybody ready to warmly embrace anarchism yet (or as a start, secession) or are we going to take a few more trips around the sun?

/s
Every LLM-unrelated story always has a comment saying "I asked GPT this-that-or-the-other and it said x." Why? What do these tangents add to the conversations?
Apple pulls its ads from X after Musk's antisemitic posts
No.

> Many critics have called Worldcoin's business—of scanning eyeballs in exchange for crypto—dystopian and some have compared it to bribery.

https://time.com/6300522/worldcoin-sam-altman/

> market makers control 95% of the total circulating supply at launch, leading to an initial market imbalance.

https://beincrypto.com/worldcoin-wld-privacy-risk/

> Worldcoin’s use of biometric data, which is unusual in crypto, raises the stakes for regulators. Multiple agencies expressed safety concerns amid reports of the sale of Worldcoin digital identities, known as World IDs, on virtual black markets, the ability to create and profit off of fake IDs, as well as the theft of credentials for operators who sign up new users.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-08-23/worldc...
(I detached this from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38309689 in a desperate attempt to prune the thread a bit)
https://hn.algolia.com/ by default lists the most upvoted stories
I’ve been to a good amount of Italian cities and would agree it’s the same mess of cars all over the place, like anywhere else. I also went to Rome for the first time half a year ago and it wasn’t the mess of cars and Vespas I imagined it was going to be, so hey, perhaps Rome is the anomaly.
FSL has less ambiguity when compared to BUSL. Each use of BUSL is essentially its own unique license due to the variable Additional Use Grant. For example, a company could not pre-approve BUSL as an acceptable license for the company, because all BUSL licenses will have a different Acceptable Use Grant. On the contrary, FSL is a new license that can be pre-approved since it has no variables. It's an improvement upon BUSL. I personally like it, although I won't be moving from ELv2 to FSL due to another reason [0].

[0]: https://github.com/getsentry/loose-confederation/issues/4#is...
Discussing happening on swyx’s twitter space now. https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1eaKbgMnDzoGX
I wonder if it has something to do with recent downtime?
It's Time for the "Sell Painkillers, Not Vitamins" Metaphor to Die
Brought to you by CPUC/CAISO (was CAL-ISO) who brought you Enron rolling blackouts.

Note: There is no mention of Enron on CAISO's revisionist history Wikipedia page.
Ilya is also on the board and he knows the tech better than Sam
LLM-unrelated stories here always have at least one comment saying "I asked GPT this-that-or-the-other and it said x." Why? What do these tangents add to the conversations?
Pure speculation and just trying to connect dots... I wonder if they realized they are losing a lot of money on ChatGPT Plus subscriptions. Sam tweeted about pausing sign-ups just a few days ago: https://twitter.com/sama/status/1724626002595471740

Lots more signups recently + OpenAI losing $X for each user = Accelerating losses the board wasn't aware of ?
I'm having trouble understanding why you'd respond with that. Are you interpreting knowledge to mean knowledge-of-language or something?

>>>> But it does mean they're about "language" rather than knowledge.

>>> To some extent, those are kind of the same thing.

>> They are not the same thing.

> Of course they are the same thing.

Language and knowledge (both broadly construed) are obviously not the same thing. Language can encode non-knowledge like nonsense or lies, and there is knowledge (e.g. of the experience of qualia) that can't be expressed in language.

I think the point up-thread is true: something that knows only about how language is unreliable source of knowledge. Even if all its input is true knowledge, it can still blindly combine that input in linguistically plausible but false ways.
How a person is perceived based on race and gender is definitely relevant context for this.
Council Tax really should be more (speaking as someone who would be affected). Council funding has been massively cut back by central government resulting in a lot of problems at the local level.
You can buy a Polestar I think.
401k/IRA income comes from the market, just as property value does. So in a roundabout way, you are benefitting from the economy as a whole and the earnings of others. (Not to say that it's bad, but Baby Boomers are going to reap much more from this than previous generations).

> Many of these retirees are providing unpaid daycare to grandchildren, unpaid assisted living service to other elder family members, or volunteer positions in the community.

Agreed! But at a much lower rate on average than 40hrs/week!
>On top of that OpenAI is literally exploding in popularity and sales

I wouldn't be too sure about that, actually. DALLE took a pretty hard hit because of Stable Diffusion, and the GPT API is so cheap that they're probably running it at a loss. Also, most users are going to be using the free ChatGPT web-client, so that's also a major loss.
Why wouldn't price fluctuations influence consumer behavior?
Electricity is purchased in bulk in Nord Pool whose prices fluctuate
by the hour. Consumers, who account for 58% of production, certainly
regulate their consumption based on prices. Even industries do and
there have been several high-profile examples of paper mills reducing
their production due to high electricity costs. Wind availability and
temperature is what determines electricity prices, neither of which is
particularly hard to predict.

Regarding your second point, this is handled via imports and exports
and standby capacity. The Nordic power grid is getting denser which
reduces the chances of catastrophic failure. While the Swedish
right-wing press has predicted brownouts and "electricity
ransoning" ever since the right-wing party made more nuclear part of
their election platform back in 2020 (what a coincidence...),
those dire predictions has not come true.
This argument doesn't make sense. The money isn't gone, it is accumulating in an account and can be applied to the mortgage at any time plus the interest rate arbitrage. Making extra mortgage payments does not remove any risk.

It makes no sense to pay off debt with a significantly lower interest rate than the sovereign interest rates for the currency it is denominated in. It is the closest thing to "free money" as exists. I know several people that could pay off their house any time they feel like it but don't because their interest rates are lower than US treasury rates. It is the financially prudent thing to do. If they wake up on day and decide they don't want a mortgage, they still have that option.
You did, sorry! I did not read your article originally. That's great. So few people these days even know about anything outside of Linux/Unix or Windows...
This is exactly why I was happy to find an interest-only jumbo mortgage at 3.xx% back in the crazy loan times (2006). Keeping that money in the investment portfolio, thus returning X minus 3.xx%, was significant. So you’re quite right, and it works in real life. But! It’s essentially margin risk — don’t do it if your investments aren’t comfortably larger than your mortgage.
from the article:

> By comparison, France’s much-vaunted nuclear power construction spree accounted for roughly 60 gigawatts of capacity between 1975 and 1990, and China built about 400 gigawatts of solar PV capacity between 2007 and 2022, though today China is building about 100 gigawatts of solar a year.

This does not capture the sheer size+speed of the PV revolution. We're at 800GW production of PV panels EACH YEAR. This will increase to 1TW by the end of 2024. For comparison, the whole world fossil fuel electricity capacity is around 5TW. Accounting for a lower capacity factor, solar could provide almost all of the electricity in just 15 years. This is shorter than the life expectancy of solar panels, so prepare yourself for some major disruption.

Panels will be cheap as dirt, we'll install them as fences, roofs, sidings, you name it. Electricity during daytime will be free. We'll see some changes to the structure of electrical companies: they will charge a higher subscription to connect to the grid, and much less per KWh. Net metering is obviously going away.
I'm saying that the arrival of a large number of people, who are legally unable to work, and who have no support system from families, and whom the City is legally obliged to house is a problem.
I can understand waiting on an EV, but why wait on solar? An EPA subsidized "energy efficiency" loan will cover the cost of the installation, with a payment lower than your power bill. You save money immediately and break even in ~7 years.

I had solar panels installed a little over ten years ago, for environmental reasons, and I was surprised to learn that the economics were already good enough to make it work out as a benefit in purely financial terms. Equipment has only gotten better since then.
"not significantly candid"

and

"no longer has confidence"

points to something more serious than underestimating costs.
I was ranting one day a few years ago at work about all the laminated signs such as "clean your dishes" or "flush the toilet" around and why they were useless at actually altering behavior. I came in the next day and one of my co-workers had had the great idea to stick a laminated sign in my lab that said, "Do not place lamanated sign's in this lab". I have left it up to this day because of the misspelling and misuse of the apostrophe, it always makes me laugh.
NYC mass transit is poor? I've never lived there, but during my extended visits, it seemed like I could get anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.
I won't say I'm super surprised that a guy with (apparently) no equity didn't last long as CEO of a company.
None of this is new.
Transitions like this are almost never this candid. It forces Sam to respond with his version. It’s unfortunate that they fired the first salvo.
>Which I’m guessing you’ve never been?

i've been poor enough that i couldn't afford a car, so any "poor people need cars, not bikes and transit" argument feels a bit hollow to me.

and the immediate assumption that i'm talking from a place of privilege rather than experience is pretty rude, tbh.
pure speculation: ChatGPT training dataset contains massive amounts of copyrighted material, and he told the board it didn't. now there's a big looming liability.
Some workers had.

Don't forget there are millions people on visa, in wait-list for green card. They always have been screwed.
Where do I read about that if I intentionally avoided all the crypto scam and missed all details?
There is no way he'd be fired if they had AGI. If they had AGI, the board wouldn't fire him because they could no longer see anything other than massive dollar signs.
GPT-5 has reached sentience.
Altman is gay, FWIW.
It's sad that it took to long to reach this state, a few years in beta and now it's out, if it didn't were for this it would been my framework of choice for web development in rust, it is very nice and all, but the support and lack of ways for the community to contribute killed the project for me.

Now that Actix and Axum are there, I would not go back to Rocket. But still kudos to the maintainers and the new direction of the project being now in process to be owned by a non-profit. I'd hope that the community is still interested in it and grow, we need more options in the space and Rocket being different that the others is also a good thing.
I fear the same.
https://twitter.com/growing_daniel/status/172561788305578426...

Given the sudden shift in billing terms that is quite possible.
Title should be corrected to Linux, it's happening in multiple distros according to that thread.
It is a bit less of a milestone considering how inflated ICE prices became.

Once they normalise EV prices will be still really far off.
Volcker Rule
I've been wondering if there's a chance the inevitable explosion of hyper-realistic disinformation and manipulation content - of course brought on by genai significantly reducing the cost and barrier to entry to very high-volume realistic multimedia content production - could make the public digital information landscape so obviously polluted and cacophonous that even the most oblivious of media consumers will begin to have their trust of information from purely online sources (or at least social media) continuously erode, basically solving the problem of online disinformation efforts by destroying the confidence in the medium altogether.
> Because the fact that Copilot is free and ChatGPT is not should be a red flag...

I'd assume that running a model that only needs to deal with a single programming language (the Copilot plugin knows what kind of code base it is working on) is _a lot_ cheaper than running the "full" ChatGPT 4.
I encountered that once in Hong Kong, more specifically in Discovery Bay on Lantau Island... But that's because regular cars were banned for private ownership.

That was over 20 years ago, and it seems that with the growth of the place and the supply-limits imposed by the local government, the carts have become insanely expensive. [0]

[0] https://www.thenationalnews.com/business/golf-carts-a-must-h...
It's a requirement to build Spanner like systems.
I guess AWS is building something similar.
> start making it way way more easier to get by w/o a car.

How exactly could do this by 2030/2050?

So much of the existing infrastructure is built at a low density with the expectation of having a car to get around.

What do we have to do? Rebuild all our cities at Japan level densities so we can have reasonable tranit options? Ban living in those cities and force everyone to move to a few high density cities? Rebuild all our highways/roads with enough transit infrastructure and staff to let people travel their existing routes without a car?

"Make it way way more easier to get by w/o a car" sounds less feasible to me than scaling up EVs.
Ilya is religiously devoted to AI enough to overlook any sort of fraud or misrepresentation in the company.
I think it could simply be a matter of vision. Sam just recently sounded more cautious and calculated than ever, possibly scaling down the expectations from the current state of his company's AI [1]. That might not have played well with the board, based potentially on his previous messaging to them.

[1] https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1725300091450519927
No, the code you're looking at is using a bunch of macros to implement an embeded DSL on top of Rust.

For example this:

#[get("/echo")]
fn echo_stream(ws: WebSocket) -> Stream!['static] {
Stream! { ws =>
for await message in ws {
yield message?;
}
}
}

Is not valid Rust code. The `for await message in ws` is particularly egregious.
Altman was at APEC yesterday saying "humanity is on the edge of destroying itself" or similar.

A few things that could lead to the company throwing shade:
1. Real prospects of OpenAI progress have been undersold, and that Altman and cofounders sought to buy time by slow-rolling the board
2. Real profitability is under/overestimated
3. The board was not happy with the "doom and gloom" narrative to world leaders
4. World leaders asked for business opportunities and the board was not fully aware of bridges or certain exploration of opportunities.
5. None of the above and something mundane.
jesus christ, was not expecting this
It's easy to paint with a broad brush "'the homeless' = bad". That is as casually discriminatory as being antisemitic and is offensive. Perhaps some empathy and nuance would help rather than condemning a group of people for the actions of individuals.
As someone who seems to know a bit about it, do you take the job? :)
Other than costs or the allegations by the sister, "not significantly candid" could easily be short for, in my mind:

"not significantly candid in projections for profitability"

"not significantly candid in calculating operation cost increases"

"not significantly candid in how much subscribers are actually using ChatGPT"

etc.
Skunkworks was my thought too. GPT performance has really gone downhill lately. If he's been sideloading resources and concealing something that they could be monetizing, this is the reaction I'd expect.
The dude molested his own sister. I think that's enough proof he's got moral issues and shouldn't be leading a company of this importance.

https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232...
Yes, it is going to be Very Bad. There isn't even a pretence that this is anything other than a firing for-cause.
Just a fantasy my mind goes to:

The Pentagon calls up Sam Altman and offers a very lucrative contract for an AI to oversee a fleet of networked drones that can also function semi-autonomously. Sam Altman does not tell the board.

Reality might, of course, be very different.
Is inference really that expensive? Anyway if the price is too low they could easily charge by query
TWCW cites 40% labor-share-of-value-add (vs 70% typical) as the macro figure and gives the hukou system as one example of policy that achieves this outcome.
What makes you think they will drop ?
Thanks for all your hard work dang
that sounds about right, but i was in unsalted territory!
I'd never heard of that, but that definitely sounds shady. Thanks for mentioning it. To save people a search: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldcoin
thanks for sharing, fantastic letter
Possible. But then again if knew he was getting fired, why even do that.
GPTs is basically a ripoff of Poe by Quora.
Quora’s CEO is Adam D’ Angelo.
Adam D’ Angelo is one of OpenAI’s board members.

Make your own conclusions.
> The company was dying.
OpenAI is not.

We can still hold onto hope though.
The expected value of a leading AI company is probably in hundreds of billions, if not trillions in the foreseeable future. He could be burning billions per month and he'd still be doing great.
https://twitter.com/phuckfilosophy/status/163570439893983232...
No obvious answer, after skimming ~400 comments here. (And I didn't see the first theory that popped into my own head.)
Ilya Sutskever is the AI prodigy, not Sam. And he is one of the board members that presumably voted to fire Altman.
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