skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yes, the sort of challenges you're talking about are pretty much exactly why I don't consider it feasible that OpenAI has an internal system that is at that level yet. I would consider it to be at the reasonable limits of possibility that they could have an AI that could give a very convincing, detailed, & feasible "grant proposal" style plan for answering those questions, which wouldn't qualify for OPs comment.

With a more advanced AI system, one that could build better physics simulation environments, write software that's near maximally efficient, design better atomic modelling and tools than currently exist, and put all of that into thinking through a plan to achieve the technology (effectively experimenting inside its own head), I could maybe see it being possible for it to make it without needing the physical lab work. That level of cognitive achievement is what I think is infeasible that OpenAI could possibly have internally right now, for several reasons. Mainly that it's extremely far ahead of everything else to the point that I think they'd need recursive self-improvement to have gotten there, and I know for a fact there are many people at OpenAI who would rebel before letting a recursively self-improving AI get to that point. And two, if they lucked into something that capable accidentally by some freak accident, they wouldn't be able to keep it quiet for a few days, let alone a few weeks.

Basically, I don't think "a single technological advancement that product wants to implement and safety thinks is insane" is a good candidate for what caused the split, because there aren't that many such single technological advancements I can think of and all of them would require greater intelligence than I think is possible for OpenAI to have in an AI right now, even in their highest quality internal prototype.
Thanks for making my day.
The non-tech media and public have literally no idea who Sam Altman is and realistically whatever happens here isn’t going to change whether people like ChatGPT or not.
Perhaps using the world at large was not the best way to word what I was saying. I was implying the parent post was talking about a specific country that the OP lives in.
I appreciate the clarification, although I was linking this as clearly ConceptARC has a number of tasks where GPT-4 fails badly compared to humans. On "Extend To Boundary" category GPT-4 scores 0.2 and humans score 0.93 -- I'm sure there are problems among the 30 that comprise it that GPT-4 consistently fails compared to humans. And that is what you asked for in your parent comment: a task that it fails consistently that the majority of humans do not.

Claiming GPT-4 doesn't "fail anything" here is a little pedantic, if you are saying saying well hey it doesn't get a 0 score on anything. The conclusion of the paper is literally GPT-4 fails "to robustly form abstractions and reason about basic core concepts in contexts not previously seen in its training data".

And yes, I know the whole "generalization is always a data problem" / "humans come with millions of years of training data" take, but if you follow ARC, it's pretty obvious this type of abstraction forming is the clearest spot where models consistently fail and humans excel. Which to me implies less of a data issue and more of a architectural difference that has yet to be overcome.
Imagine if Elon Musk has to do something with this.
Probably via retrieval augmented generation (RAG) https://www.promptingguide.ai/techniques/rag
Maybe they will switch over to Google for compute. Openai without the business genius is just Google research.
It's probably the gpt cost of a metered product.
I built a PoC of a 5us trading system (guaranteed 5us response in every situation) for a brokerage house a long time ago, around the time of LMAX Disruptor. It was one man job and I had to start with nothing (they had no knowledge at all). Fun project and I learned a lot.

* full kernel bypass (I even implemented driver for the networking hardware)

* everything that could disrupt the application disabled (like SME interrupts, etc.) Memory mapped as huge buffers to prevent tlb lookup failures, etc.

* application consists of threads pinned to specified cores

* each thread on the path of market data to sending the order is never calling the operating system for anything. When not processing anything it is busy spinning.

* all memory preallocated carefully to have it pinned to the local core

* data flows from the networking hardware into one core and then passess through cores using disruptor, each core doing further processing and publishing signals to the next core

* the main insight was that rather than wait for market signals to then decide what to do, you can precalculate your responses up to and including the actual message to be sent to the exchange.
Note that it's also spilling over into German, frequently called "Deppenapostroph" by people with a similar, but less polite view as those behind the article. So Germans absolutely do assume that it is the same thing, to the point where many seem to feel that it would be more correct to write it like the English do.
This is a pretty good orchestration of events. Given the high profile nature of the organization here, it would be prudent for the board to have defended (legally speaking) their side. Sam might be complicit in something and they used that to boot him. Only time will tell now.
Yeah, I honestly don't get the hate about the magic mouse

"Oh but you have to charge it upside down", yes. Every something like 3 months I have to stop for some 15min (if I don't remember to charge it first) to be able to use it for the rest of the day and then charge it when I'm not using

It is really one complaint that's more internet meme than an actual grievance
He appears to say he doesn't.

https://x.com/sama/status/1725748751367852439

Though any fund containing MSFT must be correlated.
Thanks for sharing! Privacy in Storytell is permissioned at the content level when you upload content. There are three privacy levels in Storytell:

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This is hacker news. Sam was the founder of a startup in the very first round of YC. He then later became president of YC. I expect news of him to resonate more around here.

And OpenAI have been the most exciting tech company of the last 12 months.
I think Sam and Greg could build something similar to what ChatGPT is today, and maybe even get close to GPT-4, but going beyond that seems like a stretch. Ilya is really the one that’s needed, and clearly he does not see eye to eye with Sam. Another world-class AI researcher at the level of Ilya would have to step in, and I’m not even sure that person exists.
These are easy questions, and it's been a very common experience since forever:

Shared files stay until you uninstall all apps that use that

User config can be removed with an extra option
Logically, not all petrol stations are going to survive double digit percentage drops in business very long. That's basically what is happening shortly. And it won't stop at 20% either. As battery prices come down and production volumes go up, this is a trend that will accelerate and re-enforce itself.

Once the EV market share hits something like 50% (middle of next decade, ish), petrol business will be down much more than 50% from today. Many petrol stations will have disappeared. Most commercial fleets will be close to 100% electric at that point (or striving to be). Most long distance road travel will be electric. Because it's vastly cheaper than anything else at that point. Any heavy road users will switch sooner rather than later because of the cost benefits from going electric. As soon as they can basically.

EVs will be over represented in miles driven collectively. As in, people might still own ICE vehicles but they would not be driving them a lot as that would be costly. And hence not use as much fuel.
It really was not, or link to the "beating" result.
The biggest challenge currently to GPT and LLMs is how to monetize it or get utility from it. It is fascinating but not reliable enough to be tasked with running say, tech support phone-trees. (Not that it has stopped godawful automated phone systems from being made before LLMs.)
A vertical mouse was a game changer for my RSI. Stopped it in it's tracks.
Click the time it was posted (e.g. “2 hours ago”) and then “favorite”
I think it depends. For example, if I needed machines running 24/7 running some stuff, then I would eat through those cloud credits so fast. For example, managed k8s is actually pretty cheap in the cloud, but you can't turn off their logging solution, and even on the lowest setting, storage for those logs will cost you an arm and a leg. However, if you can use something like serverless or even just regular vms, you can be super cheap at the start. It all just depends on what you're doing.
Right, so it isn’t intuitively a hard task. It’s hard in the framework of ChatGPT’s design. That design is majorly powerful, but isn’t a great one for this basic task.
How do those headlines assume readers know who Sam Altman is? All of them tell you the company he was fired from and half tell you he was CEO. If anything, they assume the reader doesn't know who he is.

If I asked my mom who Sam Altman was, she'd have no idea. Most of my friends wouldn't either, even some who work in tech. Having one's name in headlines isn't the same as being a household name.
The chairman of the board quit with him, though. Doesn't seem like he had a problem.
I did have to have the 12v battery replaced on my 2018 Model 3, but I think they've now transitioned to Lithium-ion 12v batteries on the newer cars, so I'm not sure if that'll be an expected maintenance item much longer.
> Why not just say, “the board has made the difficult decision to part ways with Altman”?

That's hardly any different. Nobody makes a difficult decision without any reason, and it's not like they really explained the reason.
Agreed, both were critical for their success, the underlying LLM technology, and the vision and leadership to package the tech into ChatGPT.

However, my original comment on this thread was simply to point out that Ilya is not "unknown-to-anyone", but a world renowned AI researcher and a core part of OpenAI's team and their success. Your reply implied that Ilya "has very little to do with OpenAI’s success", which I thought undersells his importance.
Orange Skies Day
At least a decade away from being usable for something like this
ChatGPT censors information about Sam Altman and sister, blocks sharing
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Ron Conway strongly disapproves of Sam Altman's firing
TIL there is an unofficial HTTP status code 420, "Enhance your calm"... lol
> So yeah, someone definitely told the lawyers to go fuck themselves when they decided to go with this inflammatory language.

You're assuming they even consulted the lawyers...
So they are trying to burn him with the worst possible accusation for a Ceo to try to lessen the inevitable fundraising he’s going to win?
Thanks for the feedback, will look into scrolling issue. Comments are not implemented. It's in mind.
The claim that you cannot have x memories before a certain year is completely false. although unrelyable, children that have certain experiences can remember them.

I would go as far as to say we completely underestimate what children understand and remember because we're the ones that chose to forget.
What should they use? Self hosted Jitsi?
AI Will Not Replace You, But The Person Owning the AI Will.

Would be better title for this kind of articles and too bad for board members. That is why the AGI would not trust any humans.
So what. You dont have to be smart to run something well. See joe biden. It doesnt matter what can be said of you if you're doing the thing. Whats weird is throwing wrench into an engine thats doing really well. Hopefully there is some good deliberation for this.
It sounds a new "Coca-cola" and "Pepsi" story again...
Volvo are owned by the Chinese!?
Whataboutism [0]

Nuclear power plants are massivly underinsured. That was my point.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
For a board seat at a major company? That’s rather untypical. She wasn’t exactly a famous researcher in her field either when appointed.
Backups are not hard. I've set them up, and restored from them, numerous times in my career. Even PITR is not hard.

It takes about 10-15 mins to apply the configs and install the stuff, then maybe another 10-15 minutes to run a simple test and verify things.
It’s a performance critical optimization that has downsides. It’s a completely fair criticism.

It’s like someone claimed a hammer is a universal construction tool, and then someone else pointed out hammers aren’t great for screwing in screws. Your position is that a universal construction tool doesn’t need to work with screws because hammers were never designed to do so.
Well-written article discussing Andreesen’s bullish optimistic view of technology and progress, and contrasting thoughts.
I think this is a great idea! My kids use iPads and managing their screen time works well with what iOS has on board, but I cannot control social media, as this would nearly always intrude the privacy of the kid.
I'm mildly skeptical that GBSD that makes sense, but the sorts of silly popular-level arguments you're describing on both sides are cartoons of the serious, careful arguments that do exist on this topic if you seek it out.
I mean, presumably Teams?
Generalizing is how we reason, and having been on boards and worked with them closely, I can straight up tell you that's not how it works.

In general, everyone is professional unless there's something really bad. This was quite unprofessionally handled, and so we draw the obvious conclusion.
For a company as obsessed with design as Apple, it's a bad design. A mouse sitting upside-down, or on its side, on a desk is not exactly elegant. Even if it's just for a short period of time every 3 months, it's still an ugly solution. It's on par with the Apple Pencil that charged in the bottom of the iPad.

A MagSafe connection to the front of the mouse seems like it would be much better.

I have an old AA version of the Magic Mouse, I'd much rather use that over the current Magic Mouse, though I currently use a Logitech. If they ever move the charging port off the bottom, I might give the Apple mouse another look.
Huh? We absolutely have open source virus genome sequences and 3D printed gun plans.
I thought that [regulatory] attention is all you need.
How much total compensation could Altman have gotten from another company, if not for this slander? Yeah no one knows for sure, but how much could he argue? He's a princeling of Silicon Valley, and just led a company from $0 to $90 billion dollars. I'm guessing that's going to be a very, very big number.

Unless OpenAI can prove in a court of law that what they said was true, they're on the hook for that amount in compensation, perhaps plus punitive damages and legal costs.
Are these not official statements from gdb and sama? Where do they post the serious stuff?
Does ChatGPT look unreleased to you?
I bet not (we could bet with play money on manifold.markets I would bet to 10% probability). Because you need the talent, the chips, the IP development, the billions. He could get the money but the talent is going to be hard
unless he has a great narrative.
Cute mapaches. I’ll have to keep this handy for International Raccoon Day on April 12.

416 is my favorite so far.
Because there is nothing even approaching the claimed risk of "AI", and they're stifling the growth and potential that LLMs have at vastly improving our lives.
The onus is on OpenAI to prove that in a court of law, in front of a jury.
Having read up on some background not sure I want this guy in charge of any kind of superintelligence.
People never take the lessons you want from history. The "contextual knowledge" is just happening to think the same way you do. It won't work to prevent it any more than knowledge of the Civil War would prevent Neoconfederate "Lost Causers".
That's a problem in all of science, and Chinese research is quite good in measures like citations as well, not just quantity of papers.
I think Karpathy could qualify
Because the price is wrong.

Power companies already buy much of their electricity from independent power generators. However, for the economics to work, producer prices need to be lower than retail prices. These prices change throughout the day, based on demand.

Net metering results in people getting paid the retail price instead of the producer price.
It's not the "online" that's the issue exactly, I think Jerrrry didn't describe it exactly right, but it's still correct. I, too, personally, thought it was very clear that the "John, " was ... I dunno if it was patronizing or what, but marginally impolite or condescending or patronizing or something. Unless, unbeknownst to us, anigbrowl and johnwheeler are old personal associates (probably offline), in which case it would mean "remember that I know you", and the implication of that would depend on the history in the relationship.

I recognize that the above para sort of sounds like I think I have some authority to mediate between them, which is not true and not what I think. I'm just replying to this side conversation about how to be polite in public, just giving my take.

The broad pattern here is that there are norms around how and when you use someone's name when addressing them, and when you deviate from those norms, it signals that something is weird, and then the reader has to guess what is the second most likely meaning of the rest of the sentence, because the weird name use means that the most likely meaning is not appropriate.
According to Crunchbase, Loopt raised $39.1M.
Adam D’Angelo went through a lot of tumult at Facebook and is heavy on the commerce side of ChatGPT (e.g. trying to make Poe work now that Quora is mostly dead). He's the most experienced member of the OpenAI Board by far. It's curious that he evidently enabled Ilya to defend the charter versus something more diplomatic. He may have even been aware of deals Altman was making and volunteered the info, and then let the OpenAI founders fight it out themselves.
Hype might die down and some of the hundreds to thousands (yeah…) of doomed (because, even optimistically, most are plainly never gonna be worth the resources going into them) AI boondoggles at various startups and bigcos might get cancelled sooner than they’re otherwise gonna be.

Which might be bad for my personal short-term employment prospects, so here’s hoping that doesn’t happen. We can ride this BS to the next speculation bubble if we believe in ourselves. And don’t look down.
Who do you think you are dispelling memes and disenfranchising the chuds who need something to complain about. I mean really? Why do you have to bring actual use and reality into it?

Seriously though. This is absolutely correct. I get that some people don't like it, but I really don't get the obsession with the charging port.

I guess I should be glad that these people didn't complain the Apple Watch can't be worn while it's charging.
>Or the drama around Yishan Wong's sudden resignation as Reddit CEO, to be replaced by Ellen Pao

you're missing one noteworthy name who was CEO between those two people :)
It is neither dying nor fading into the background. Huge numbers of scientific endeavours (eg LIGO) depend on distributed computing. Much of the world of finance depends on massive risk models computed using distributed computing. The LLMs driving the AI hype cycle are for sure not trained and finetuned on single machines etc.

A very specific old model of distributed computing isn't as popular as it once was because the world of technology has changed beyond all recognition since the likes of SETI@Home etc.
Which Presidents Have Seen UFOs? Yep, It's More Than One
Great technology can fail in the market due to a poorly run business. There is no shortage of companies looking to compete with OpenAI.
As long as truly "open" AI wins, as in fully open-source AI, then I'm fine with such a "leadership transition."
> We provide evidence for the Reversal Curse by finetuning GPT-3 and Llama-1 on fictitious statements such as "Uriah Hawthorne is the composer of 'Abyssal Melodies'" and showing that they fail to correctly answer "Who composed 'Abyssal Melodies?'". The Reversal Curse is robust across model sizes and model families and is not alleviated by data augmentation.

This just proves that the LLMs available to them, with the training and augmentation methods they employed, aren't able to generalize. This doesn't prove that it is impossible for future LLMs or novel training and augmentation techniques will be unable to generalize.
Ask HN: Alternatives to fig.io as it has signups disabled?
Fig is awesome but with signups blocked[1] for 2+mo already it's also as good as dead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

* [1]: https://github.com/withfig/autocomplete/issues/2068
Cool, we're just getting started so let us know what we could build that would be helpful/valuable for you.

For example:

- We have a Chrome extension at https://go.Storytell.ai/chrome that I used to ingest all the HN comments; you can run that on any HN page to summarize all the comments in real time. (Here's an Adobe PMM talking about how he uses it: https://www.tiktok.com/@storytell.ai/video/72996137210752566... )

- We've also built OpenAI's Assistant API into Storytell to process both structured data like CSVs along-side unstructured data like PDFs: https://www.web.storytell.ai/support/engineering-demos-updat...
Firing Sam Altman reorders the AI race
“Internal fighting over the direction of the company’s nonprofit versus for-profit statuses, along with Altman’s influence in comparison to others like chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, who is part of a group at the firm that believes AI can pose a risk to humanity, contributed to the drama, journalist Kara Swisher tweeted.”
It's a good idea to be careful where to donate your money to. Most of us have limited resources, and while we should donate to worthy causes certainly, we have the responsibility of at least trying to put those resources to good use that reflect our own values.
Governments fall all the time in non-coup. They just lost majority.
It is a big part of start-up culture and getting seed liquidity. It doesn't make you a great long-term CEO, however.
Is there an original link to the story that's not Twitter, formerly known as X?
The author doesn't understand what distributed computing means and so has decided to devote an article entirely to volunteer computing projects.
You can’t win with an inferior product here. Not yet anyway. The utility is in the usefulness of the AI, and we’ve only just got to useful enough to start really being useful for daily workflows. This isn’t a ERP type thing where you outsell your rivals on sales prowess alone. This is more like the iPhone3 just got released.
Yes. Geely also own Lotus and started to produce heavy Lotus branded SUVs.

MG is also Chinese.
It will affect Microsoft's view, and developers view as to whether the company is stable. I use the GPT-4 api for a number of processes and this makes me assume it's less stable than I otherwise assumed.
> I wouldn't be surprised if these LLMs really become the backbone of the AGI. But this is science– You don't really know what'll work until you do it.

Yes-- this is pretty much what I believe. And there's considerable uncertainty in how close AGI is (and how cheap it will be once it arrives).

It could be tomorrow and cheap. I hope not, because I'm really uncertain if we can deal with it (even if the AI is relatively well aligned).