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Sam didn't create the breakthroughs behind the current GPT.

He did not create the breakthroughs behind the next GPT.

None of the people that may follow have the same handle on the tech as Ilya. I mean they built up Ilya's image in our mind so much, that he's one of a kind genius (or maybe Musk did that) and now we are to believe that his genius doesn't matter and that Microsoft already knows how to create AGI and that OpenAI is no longer relevant?

Or did I get it wrong?
Ha ha. I noticed the SSO tax and it has stopped us SSOing all the things which would be nice from a security point of view.

I think vendors use SSO as a feeler for “company has more money to spend on us” so if you want to eliminate SSO tax you need to give them a new thing to grade enterprises on. However a simpler thing would be like Docker etc. who look at ARR.
They did try that first but Mira had already betrayed them within 24 hours lol.
They are, except instead of saying “AD” for some reason they get a blue checkmark
That's exactly what the recently released GPT Builder does for you!
Nevertheless, the board doesn't fall under any CEO's "watch" (even when they are 1/6th of the board). The reverse is true.
link to your prediction?
I think it's a misconception that Microsoft has less morals. Their Chief Scientific Officer, Dr. Eric Horvitz, was one of the key people behind America's 2022 nuclear weapons policy update which states that we will always maintain a human in the loop for nuclear weapons employment. (i.e., systems like WOPR are now forbidden under US policy.)

Here is the full excerpt of the part of the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review which was (more or less) authored behind the scenes by Microsoft's very kind and wise CSO:

We also recognize the risk of unintended nuclear escalation, which can result from accidental or unauthorized use of a nuclear weapon. The United States has extensive protections in place to mitigate this risk. As an example, U.S. intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) are not on “hair trigger” alert. These forces are on day-to-day alert, a posture that contributes to strategic stability. Forces on day-to-day alert are subject to multiple layers of control, and the United States maintains rigorous procedural and technical safeguards to prevent misinformed, accidental, or unauthorized launch. Survivable and redundant sensors provide high confidence that potential attacks will be detected and characterized, enabling policies and procedures that ensure a deliberative process allowing the President sufficient time to gather information and consider courses of action. In the most plausible scenarios that concern policy leaders today, there would be time for full deliberation. For these reasons, while the United States maintains the capability to launch nuclear forces under conditions of an ongoing nuclear attack, it does not rely on a launch-under-attack policy to ensure a credible response. Rather, U.S. nuclear forces are postured to withstand an initial attack. In all cases, the United States will maintain a human “in the loop” for all actions critical to informing and executing decisions by the President to initiate and terminate nuclear weapon employment.

See page 49 of this PDF document: https://media.defense.gov/2022/Oct/27/2003103845/-1/-1/1/202...

Microsoft is also working behind the scenes to help convince China to make a similar declaration, which President Xi is considering. This would reduce the vulnerability of China to being tricked into a nuclear war by fundamentalist terrorists. (See the scenario depicted in the 2019 film The Wolf's Call.)
It's not really how MSFT does things though?

Github operates independently of Microsoft. (To Microsoft's detriment... they offer Azure Devops which is their enterprisey copy of Github, with entirely different UX and probably different codebase.) They shove the copilot AI now everywhere but it still seems to operate fairly differently.

They didn't really fold LinkedIn in into anything (there are some weird LinkedIn integrations in Teams but that's it)

Google seems to me much worse in this aspect, all Google aquisitions usually become Googley.

Skype sort of became Teams thought, that's true.
I hope her book will be as good as the article. Something like the earlier works of Walter Isaacson, rather than his latest Musk bio.
I think this is a crazy set of values.

'.. before it's our time' is definitely in the eye of the beholder.
In ages past on smaller screens I would code on the left, then have some supporting docs open on either a tab or a right-hand screen.

But these days on my Dell 32" coding on the far left isn't that great, you actually have to turn your head.

I now split off a little left handed tab which I use to edit headers in code, for example includes, constants, enums, structs, variables and so on. Then just left of my natural forward eye position I have another tab for the rest of the screen and the code.
Yeah, that seems fair. Though I suppose a limited licence grant is slightly more complex of an arrangement.

If it's any consolation, compared to a month ago when everything was permissively-licensed, Element is no more or less able to make a proprietary fork, and everyone else is now less able.
Are we talking about the same Microsoft here??!?

Sheeeeh ...

I grew up with Microsoft in the 80s and 90s .. Microsoft has zero morals.

What you're referring to here is instinct for self preservation.
Translation: OAI is toast
"This guy doesn't care about money y'all...

He needs money to do big things and execute. He gets high on making big stuff happen."

So what you're saying is he cares about power.
I live in a completely different world.

When this all went down, I just felt really bad for all those involved, in any situation like this, I feel horrible for the person, imaging what it must of felt for Sam, as if his situation was really bad, yet of course he was always likely to land somewhere on his feet and always in a much better situation than me personally.

Then by the late hours of Sunday, he has already negotiated with OpenAI and then joined Microsoft. Crazy to me that such decisions are made at breakneck speed and everything unfolds so quickly, when I take much longer to make much simpler choices.
The article mentions rssCloud. From a cursory glance it sounds like that's a protocol extension that lets you register a callback URL to be notified about updates (i.e. push messaging).
Most Microsoft products have miserable UX because of this enabling mentality. Someone has to come out and say "enough is enough".

A broad index fund sans Microsoft will do just fine. That's the whole point of a broad index fund.
This happens to intelligent competitive people all the time. They don't want everyone to be worse off but what they really don't want - is to lose. Especially to the other guy who is going to do it anyway.
You're not agreeing with nytimes.com - they think that Musk's tweets are the issue here. You're suggesting it is who Twitter accepts ads from. And I'm suggesting that it is likely nytimes.com - or the companies reported on, or both - are engaged in political manoeuvring because we know their moral standards are remarkably low. if it means they can get eyeballs where they want them.

If companies were motivated more by not wanting to associate with caucasian dating sites (although to be honest why that would be a problem I don't see, what is next - banning gay dating sites? People have weird preferences and there are dating sites for all of them) then presumably the Times would be obliged to report on that.
I can't imagine a single person I've met in my life who would be as Zen as this bloke was as a kid. One wonders what engenders such quality in a person.
You think they wouldn't give up wagyu beef and the idea of the US dollar for a shot at rebuilding society with a massive head start over the 99.9% percent of the population that don't have a bolt hole?
I had a look at [1]. I believe it is interesting but for me, this document is hard to understand.

The thing is imo, you have a theory of mind on which you build. This building is done in a very structured way and works well for you. I believe the gist is, you have premises, eg. values of a code base, and build further on that, layer by layer.

The OP explains a pain point with sofware engineering, which also applies here: a theory cannot be fully expressed. The code and documentation flows out of the theory, they are artefacts, products of it. Still those are not encompassing the theory in itself, which in fact only exists in the originator's mind.

The job of many sw engineers is to get insights into such theories by inspecting the code and documentation, using it and approaching these from different angles. A bit like archeology.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/18/the-wealthiest-10percent-of-...
> getting that definition from

That was not about actual definition fro OpenAi but about definition implied by user Legend2440 here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38344867
" We look forward to getting to know Emmett Shear "

Hmm
Hacker News is so dumb it's actually hilarious.
Remember when they did this?

"Microsoft to acquire GitHub for $7.5 billion" - https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-g...

only to enable GitHub to do greater things, without disrupting user experience?

"Four years after being acquired by Microsoft, GitHub keeps doing its thing" - https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/26/four-years-after-being-acq...

or when they acquired LinkedIn before that?

"Microsoft buys LinkedIn" - https://news.microsoft.com/announcement/microsoft-buys-linke...

which turned out to be fine too?

How about Minecraft? Activision?

It's easy to cherry-pick examples from an era where Microsoft wasn't the most successful. The current leadership seems competent and the stock growth of the company reflects that.
What did she do ?
> Humans are really bad in assessing situations larger than their immediate family, and this is no exception.

As far as we can tell humans are the only species that even has the capacity to recognize such things as “resources” and produce forecasts of their limits. Literally every other species is kept in check by either consuming resources until they run out or predation. We are not unique in this regard.
Welp, surely this will work out for OpenAI and their board.
Now regardless, the new CEO Shear is also very much in the current development of AI is dangerous (not just hypothetically in the future as AGI becomes more plausible), comparable to a nuclear weapon, and wants to slow it down. This will definitely pit researchers into camps and have plenty looking at the door.

https://x.com/amir/status/1726503822925930759?s=46&t=
In a culture where people talk, yes. In a culture where one pushes ahead and brushes the others aside, no. Marriage 101.

(I don't know if that's what happened here. But many sources seem to point in that direction at the moment.)
> For example, Elon Musk was smart enough to do some things … then he crashed and burned with Twitter because it’s about people and politics. He could not have done a worse job, despite being “smart.”

That is, if you do not subscribe to one of the various theories that him sinking Twitter was intentional. The most popular ones I've come across are "Musk wants revenge for Twitter turning his daughter trans", "Saudi-Arabia wants to get rid of Twitter as a trusted-ish network/platform to prevent another Arab Spring" and "Musk wants to cozy up to a potential next Republican presidency".

Personally, I think all three have merits - because otherwise, why didn't the Saudis and other financiers go and pull an Altman on Musk? It's not Musk's personal money he's burning on Twitter, it's to a large degrees other people's money.
Toast tastes amazing
We don't talk about that Sam anymore. Way too embarrassing.
So what would be your course of action if you had an SSD failure?
Damn was looking forward to picking up some cheap MSFT
It's just insurance.

The rest of us just can't afford most of the insurance that we probably should have.

Insurance is for scenarios that are very unlikely to happen. Means nothing. If I was worth 300 mil I'd have insurance in case I accidently let an extra heavy toilet seat smash the boys downstairs.

Throw the money at radical weener rejuvination startups. Never know... Not like you have much to lose after that unlikely event.

I'd get insurance for all kinds of things.
i dont know.... nextcloud has been pretty much enterprise ready for a long time so even the $5/month per user charged by zoho can be utilized for a myriad of things by self hosting including a full time engineer or outsourcing to some support service for nextcloud for management.
I am looking forward to the CD revolution, USB stick revolution, mp3 revolution, etc.
Why bother? the percentage of users that have JS disabled is what nowadays? 0.000000000001% maybe? even smaller?
From a URL aesthetics perspective, yes. Otherwise it just adds yet another dimension of how to pass a parameter.
I based that opinion on two news that came out:

1. When they invested in Open AI it had a more mature board (in particular Reid Hoffman) and afterwards they lost a few members without replacing them. That was probably something Microsoft could have influenced without making themselves part of the problem.

2. They received a call one minute before the decision was made public. That shouldn't happen to a partner that owns 49% of the company you just fired a CEO from.

Sources:

1 - https://loeber.substack.com/p/a-timeline-of-the-openai-board

2 - https://www.axios.com/2023/11/17/microsoft-openai-sam-altman...
Just because that's the goal they have written on the tin doesn't mean that that is/was their actual goal.

Especially in the early days where the largest donor to OpenAI was Musk who was leading Tesla, a company way behind in AI capabilities, OpenAI looked like an obvious "Commoditize Your Complement" play.

For quite some time where they were mainly publishing research and they could hide behind "we are just getting started" that guise held up nicely, but when they struck gold with Chat(GPT), their was more and more misalignment between their actions and their publicly stated goal.
The top 1% own over half of all stocks and the top 10% own nearly 90% so it really isn't that "many". And you know what other companies are in those index funds you own, Microsoft's competitors and customers that would both be squeezed if Microsoft gains a monopoly on some hypothetical super valuable AI tech. If Microsoft suddenly doubled in value, you would barely notice it in your 401k.
>We should apparently read every function's specification carefully, not use software written by others, and not use threads. These are unrealistic assumptions in modern software.

The first of the three listed items you should certainly do. I hope this author is not writing medical software, or anything important.
What does a potential future scenario matter? The board have to follow the charter today.
Micro$oft acts as evil as possible as often as possible, be wary.
The AI hate is suuuch a meme in the art community, it's very frustrating/alienating. (Though understandably, neoliberal capitalism is also extremely frustrating, so I see why artists mad, I just wish they'd be mad at the root cause.)

((the root cause is that an economic system fundamentally based on scarcity == value doesn't make sense when applied to things that are essentially infinite, and kludgeing in artificial scarcity to make things work is not a good take))
Yes, I’m not saying shell scripts are affected, merely using them as an example to answer the question “Why do any of these [env vars] need to change at runtime?”
Since Twitter has been so controversial I don't think it's strange to discredit people using it. The people still using it are just addicted to attention.
Everything will have problems if you start from scratch and have to import millions of items.

But of course there's a standard for paging: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5005#section-3

Then both ATOM and RSS can leverage HTTP headers. If you include If-Modified-Since into your request the server can decide to only returns items that are newer.
Investors money =|= the companies money.
Widely useful is also widely dangerous
Esperance is a hell of a place. There's a kind of void there that gets inside.
That's in-line with my general criticism of Nostr. It's a very simple protocol that imposes too little structure on downstream software so you get a kind of impedance mismatch (so to speak) at the messaging layer. There's not a lot provided for ensuring reliable delivery so the strategy will evolve to just broadcast to as many relays as possible and accept the duplicated effort (which will have to be paid for by somebody). It also doesn't have a good story with regard to identity management and key compromise. It's neat and useful for some applications but people think it's some amazing new advancement when it's not. Its something very simple that we could have easily invented in the 90s, but we didn't because it's kinda a shaky architecture to build applications on top of. It's too simple.
Sam Altman and Greg Brockman have very similar backgrounds. They are both highly intelligent, both dropped out of college and lack any advanced education. They are classic Silicon Valley entrepreneurs: well-networked, great at fund raising, maybe even good managers. Potential contribution to advanced AI research: zero.

What, exactly, does Microsoft want to do with them? Best guess: Use their connections and reputation to poach talent from OpenAI.
The board (Ilya) wanted to be a research nonprofit, which is fair, but they accidentally grew a giant business out of it via Microsoft investment and Sam was doing a pretty solid job of continuing that.

This is fair that it's a distraction from the mission, but randomly firing him and now having all their staff leave and probably losing all the compute funding is a strange way of dealing with it.
They could get a infra deal with AWS, Google, NVidia or AMD even :-).

Or they write the AI that runs on your M3

That said the Microsoft offer came quickly than Amazon can deliver a 3090 to your house so…
I'm hoping (?) for the next plot twist:

OpenAI actually becomes open source.
OpenAI is ironically executing the exact opposite of its mission. Microsoft is holding all the cards now with their full access to OpenAI tech, the infrastructure and now the leadership.
Sutskever said something interesting in his Lex Fridman interview:

"In an ideal world, humanity would be the board members, and AGI would be the CEO. Humanity can always press the reset button and say, 'Re-randomize parameters!'"

This was 3 years ago. But that metaphor strikes me as too powerful for it not to have been at the back of Sutskever's mind when he pushed for Altman being ousted.
who pull in libraries in C like this?
Corporate shareholder interest has been proven to be short sighted again and again throughout history. Believing such entities can properly prepare for a singularity event is more delusional than asking a fruit fly to fly an aircraft.
You're certainly right they were pretty evil back then. I think they became ethical at about the same time Bill Gates did. Even though this involved him stepping back to start the Gates Foundation, he was still a board member at Microsoft for a number of years, and I think helped guide its transition.

As perhaps a better example, Microsoft (including Azure) has been carbon-neutral since 2012:

https://unfccc.int/climate-action/un-global-climate-action-a....

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/global-infrastructure/

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2012/05/08/making-carbon-ne...
> There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI

Hiring Altman makes sure that MSFT is still relevant to the whole Altman/OpenAI deal, not just a part of it. Hiring Altman thus decreases such possibility to write-off its investment.
Given it's Microsoft we're talking about, it's more likely they use it to find new and novel ways to shove Edge, OneDrive, Teams and Bing down your throat whenever you use any of their products.
Revisit that expectation. When I sequenced my DNA years ago, I discovered that I'm a slow caffeine metaboliser (longer half-life than most) AND I'm in the population likely to drink the most coffee - I drink 5 cups per day currently, my grandpa drank 24 at his peak.
> The board did not remove Sam over any specific disagreement on safety, their reasoning was completely different from that.

https://twitter.com/eshear/status/1726526112019382275
An example:

> In this chapter I am going to demonstrate that Arab education, in all its
various forms, teaches the values of the dominant Arab culture. Education
in the Arab world, both formal and informal, constantly seeks to mold the
actions and thinking of the individual along the lines of the culturally
regular patterns of behavior described in Chapter 17.

> <<<Arab families and
schools teach conformity, deference to authority, loyalty to the group, etc>>>.
It isn’t found in the formal curriculum. You won’t find a class in any Arab
school called “Conformism 101.” Instead, you will find it in the teaching method
itself: in how students are taught to think, to learn, and to behave.

Page 417.

Read the book. Stop projecting.

It's a complex matter and for some stuff people REALLY love to put their heads in the sand. Some problems need to be tackled head on, as Denmark is doing at the moment.
Congratulations, OpenAI, you've successfully played yourself.
Is it just me or it's the sixth times today that the same tweet is referenced as an hn news?
Here's the new CEO expressing the common EA belief that (theoretical world ending) AI is worse than the Nazis, because once you show them a thought experiment that might possibly true they're completely incapable of not believing in it.

https://x.com/eshear/status/1664375903223427072?s=46
> And we’re extremely excited to share the news that Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, together with colleagues, will be joining Microsoft to lead a new advanced AI research team.

This seems like the real bit of news here
I was hoping for the OpenAI organism cell to have a clean split and start the race to outcompete each other. But now it looks like the older cell(Microsoft) will eat the high energy cell(OpenAI) and make it its mitochondria.
That would actually be a good idea imo. Ilya should make OpenAI a PBC, then merge it with Anthropic and Amazon's compute power. Meanwhile Altman can become the next real life Nelson Bigetti or sth.
Are you seriously arguing for Microsoft morals...On the basis of a totally logical, from a self-preserving prespective, statement on Nuclear Weapons, from a Scientific Advisor with no involvement on the day to day run of their business?

What is next? A statement on Oracle kindness, based on Larry Ellison appreciation of Japanese gardens?
I made the simplest Rust server I could to learn the basic workflow of OAuth2, it gets the user gmail after you log in with Google. I also included some instructions of how to set up the Google account. Feel free to check it out!
https://github.com/alexgf0/oauth
Lol

Desperate... Right...

The guy met with the Arabs a few weeks back about billions in financing for a new venture. The guys desperate like I'm Donald duck.
It's a no lose situation for Microsoft.

Either there in house team wins out and Microsoft wins.

Or OpenAI wins out and Microsoft wins with there exclusive deal and 75% of OpenAI profits.

Better to have two horses in the race in something so important, makes it much harder than one of the other companies will be the one to come out top.
I think there are good reasons for Setenv and set_var to exist, but if they are implemented, they shouldn't be wrappers around POSIX' shitty API and implement their own environment variable system instead (one of which the initial variables are possibly initialised by a call to getenv to make them compatible).

There's no reason why these languages need to restrict themselves the same way C does.
Translation: I yet know or recognize the CEO.