skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Replaced by CEO of Twitch, one of the most censorship-happy places on the internet where one can build their career and cancel themselves with one word they can't edit out even if they didn't say it themselves.

Damn. I hope Sam guts the place and ClosedAI ends up as a "Lostech" fossil and M$ ends up holding the most expensive sack of poo ever conceived.
If you’re a CEO for part of a weekend does it count? Doesn’t sound particularly meaningful.
The notion that immigration is needed to fill underpaid manual labor is in itself rather shady. Immigrants do not want to work those jobs either, they are often forced because they have to and compared to the past, their hard work does not offer upward social mobility anymore.
Who sends heart emojis to their boss? Is this level of sycophancy normal nowadays?
No he didn't fire Sam over AI safety concerns. That's completely made up by people in the twittersphere. The only thing we know is that the board said the reason was that he lied to the board. The guardian[1] reported that he was working on a new startup[1] and that staff had been told it was due to a breakdown in communication and not to do with anything regarding safety, security, malfeasance or a bunch of other things.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/18/earthquak...
Can someone explain to me what they mean by "safe" AGI? I've looked in many places and everyone is extremely vague. Certainly no one is suggesting these systems can become "alive", so what exactly are we trying to remain safe from? Job loss?
I don't think a VC techbro is the best bet for humanity's future. A strong non-profit with clear goals and full transparency is 100% better.
Most employees are on the profit-sharing-esque compensation.

And guess what OpenAI will not be focusing on? Profit.

They are not gonna quit tomorrow. They will leave over time due to the low compensation.
To add, that's actually a Bett chart anyway, because you aren't showing the temperature over time, you want to show the change in temperature over time.

Completely different things.
Capital seems to be on Altman's side, they may make a good deal by jumping ship...
On my machine, a naive timestamp from utcnow() and a utc timezone aware datetime object from datetime.now(tz=ZoneInfo('utc')) produces the same timestamp.

datetime.now() does not return utc time (but does return a naive datetime object)
I've seen some likening Sam to Caesar, being betrayed and such. Certainly there are communities that match what the parent comment describes. HN has generally been more balanced than I would have though, though. The fan boys I've personally encountered have been more in the lands of YT and Reddit.
Ok then describe what the change has been? Article is about a change in job access. Saying college doesn’t provide job training is if anything a static truth, not a new change. If that’s been the case before this change then it’s not relevant to the change

Besides my point about stem is in comparison to humanities which you don’t address
> the advertising community

Anyone uttering this phrase is not to be taken seriously
I could be wrong, but I thought I saw something about Quora's use of LLMs improving their SEO (the LLM answer to most questions is embedded on the Quora page) and potentially driving more traffic.

If you look at Poe as a value add for existing Quora users, instead of a feature that is going to grow their userbase, it's still a net win for Quora even if GPT agents exist simultaneously.
> that's where the majority of industry happens to be.

The majority of certain kinds of industry. Finance, software, fashion, marketing, sure. I grew up surrounded by people working at chemical plants, rotating shifts at off-site drilling platforms, dock workers, etc. The other side of town, ranchers. Another side of town, sugar processing and sugar farms. Other than the dock workers and offside drillers (on their off-times) potentially being more urban-adjacent, neither of these two industries are really dense urban area kinds of industry.

Then, up the highway a bit, was Houston.

I don't see many car manufacturing plants deep in dense urban areas in the US. Loads of large manufacturing in the US happens well outside those dense urban areas. Living in most dense US cities is expensive. Real estate is way more expensive. Imagine trying to build commercial airliners in Manhattan or San Francisco.
have a look into hardware descriptive languages, VHDL or verilog and go from there
UPDATE: Mira removed as CEO as soon as showing sympathy and talks for Sam and Greg to come back. Proves the power grab argument further. There is no reason to cycles CEOs by the day, you will have no stability. At best you could say incompetent board, at worst…
Me first what?
Seems pretty reasonable she would accept it at first while she was still figuring out what's going on.

Like the board presumably called her and said, "hey Sam is out, you're the CEO for now, more details to come"

And then in the next 48 hours she had a chance to talk to Sam and others and realize that she was on his side.
Quite the contrary, that’s strong leadership having the courage to do so under those extreme circumstances.
Completely disagree: Yann LeCun, John Carmack, Rui Ueyama, Andrei Alexandrescu, Matt Goldbolt, Horace He, Tarun Chitra, George Hotz, etc.
It seems the problem with the monopoly of AI solved itself!
I'm not sure I would agree with TLOU, but I completely agree with Portal and Bioshock.

Portal is a puzzle game with a bit of a silly story to move the puzzles along. I didn't care about the protagonist, in the same way that I don't care about the art work in a chess game. It's lovely but I'm not emotionally invested in it in the same way I'm not emotionally invested in Fast and Furious.

Bioshock 1/2/Infinite was similar. The world had been lovingly crafted, the antagonists and enemies had backstories but the main character was not anyone I cared about. Having a backstory is completely different to having a relatable protagonist that I want to see succeed.

For every Logan there are 6(?) X-Men films that are just explosions.
That's nice... my comment was regarding the "clean and sustainable" part and what city he lives in, not about the traffic.
Android is kind of a special child, it uses custom kernel modules like Binder (IPC framework) and Ashmem (Android's garbage collector/memory manager).
By that do you mean that you believe AI is safe by default? Or that AI safety is not possible?
Surely the employees knew before joining that OpenAI is a non-profit aiming to develop safe AGI?
The amount of cash that Microsoft has paid to OpenAI is relatively small, much less than the $13B number that gets thrown around.

And I'm sure they're getting their money's worth. E.g. the last time I heard or thought of Bing (outside of the ChatGPT context) was years ago. Now I see it all the time. That's worth $$$$$ to them.
The board firing a CEO is hardly a hostile takeover.
> Did he really fire Sam over "AI safety" concerns? How is that remotely rational.

Not rational iff (and unlike Sustkever, Hinton, Bengio) you are not a "doomer" / "decel". Ilya's very vocal and on record that he suspects there may be "something else" going on with these models. He and DeepMind claim AlphaGo is already AGI (correction: ASI) in a very narrow domain (https://www.arxiv-vanity.com/papers/2311.02462/). Ilya particularly predicts it is a given that Neural Networks would achieve broad AGI (superintelligence) before alignment is figured out, unless researchers start putting more resources in it.

(like LeCun, I am not a doomer; but I am also not Hinton to know any better)
The license statement is ambiguous and could be interpreted to imply that commercial use is not covered/allowed.
I thought GPT-4 was not trained on labeled data, but simply on a large volume of text / code. Most of it is publicly accessible: wikipedia, archives of scientific articles, books, github, plus probably purchased data from text-heavy sites like Reddit.
This is surreal! Are we watching Silicon Valley season 7? Laurie Breem is this your doing? Are going through every CEO you can find in an attempt to get Sam Altman to realize he was the right person all along?
Don't the satellites themselves compensate for relativity?
Yeah it does seem Ilya was smart enough to realize the overwhelming majority of people get caught up in the emotion of these things, but rarely act on their promises when money is involved. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks who quits, but I doubt it'll be significant. Perhaps once Altman gets another company stood up and has billions in the bank to pay people it'll be a different story.
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> desperate
With no god, why not? It doesn't matter one way or the other.
And water is blue and so is the sky. Coincidence I think not! /s
It's an interesting book with some really interesting examples (good and bad). I also recommend looking at it.

But the central premise the text presents is "maximise the information to ink ratio", which sounds very reasonable but is fundamentally flawed. The problem is that quantity of ink (or, on a screen, number of black pixels) is not the same as visual complexity. By the time your brain is interpreting something visual, it has done edge detection, grouping, and other preprocessing.

He gives an example of shortening the axes on a scatter plot to show the range of data, rather than intersecting at the corner. This is win-win because it uses less ink but shows more information. But, when I look at the comparison, it's just obvious that the modified version is visually more complex. It would be especially worse on a complex page with text and a few plots next to each other – the fragments would all visually bleed together.

One mitigation to that sort of complexity is to put boxes around large district elements, like an entire plot. But boxes are Tufte's absolute nemesis, in that book and elsewhere. It's surprising that after so many years looking at visual displays he still has that attitude.
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Elon is known for this precisely because it's such an anomaly. And also, buying twitter doesn't stimulate the economy in the way economists will tell you is important because the vast, vast majority of that Twitter purchase was a) financed debt, not cash and b) will simply go to other capital holders, not the working class.

SpaceX is at least better for an example but it still isn't great as SpaceX itself is funded largely by the Government anyway, which Tesla is also a large beneficiary over. I'm not opposed to spending money on important new technology, unless there's an Elon Musk at the top getting rich off it. If we're already paying for Tesla and SpaceX to exist, who the fuck needs the Aparthied profiteer? He's shown himself so many times to be wildly incompetent and out of touch with all of the large businesses he's an investor in, not the least of which is the absolute clown show that Twitter's become, while he's set fire to 40 billion of it's 44 billion purchase price. And according to insiders, that seems to be because Twitter didn't have the chance to build the "Elon management team" that exists at all his other companies to prevent his boondoggling from causing more havoc than it has to.

I'm not even saying he's a bad guy (though he is) I'm saying we don't fucking need him, we need his money, which he only has because we've said he's allowed to keep it. So tax his ass and then he can go have a normal mid-life post-divorce crisis and like, buy a Ferrari and crash it into a tree or something instead of buying and sinking a social media site.

> Conversely, despite all the cool things yhe federal government has done in the past, we see massivr amounts of bloat and inefficient resource allocations.

You see the exact same thing in the private sector. This isn't a bug in Government, it's a bug in human organizations.
I started by reading “Digital Design and Computer Architecture”. There’s new RISC-V edition https://a.co/d/imzGBK5. The book starts from Boolean logic and transistor technology and goes all the way to assembly programming with everything in between. Most importantly gives great introduction to HDLs. Next I played with a bunch of hardware projects specifically targeting inexpensive Arty-A7 board to get comfortable with FPGA tooling.
Apparently, OpenAI President Greg Brockman doesn't use uppercase letters in his official communications with employees. So I'm not surprised.
Thank-you. Not a lot of times remind me of this heady stuff, but the comment did. So here goes.

---

A Nobel Prize was awarded to Ilya Prigogine in 1977 for his contributions in irreversible thermodynamics. At his award speech in Stockholm, Ilya showed a practical application of his thesis.

He derived that, in times of superstability, lost trust is directly reversible by removing the cause of that lost trust.

He went on to show that in disturbed times, lost trust becomes irreversible. That is, in unstable periods, management can remove the cause of trust lost--and nothing happens.

Since his thesis is based on mathematical physics, it occupies the same niche of certainty as the law of gravity. Ignore it at your peril.

-- Design for Prevention (2010)
Murati walked, so this new ceo is the interim replacement. That’s independent of rejecting sama.
Many of the "publicized" issues in SF are entirely made up; see the "Cruise blocks an ambulance" incident, which SFFD had to recant as soon as Cruise started showing video to journalists.

It's a shame they tried to hide it in this situation. They could have had a relatively smooth rise if they hadn't; a few years of awkward coexistence with robot cars is a small price to pay for the benefits of (almost totally) freeing humans from the task of driving.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a Cruise has still never avoidably struck a pedestrian. Even when there have been V2V crashes, the overwhelming majority were caused by poor driving from humans.
If you fire one board member (Altman) and remove another from the board (Brockman) it's not exactly friendly either
That's why I said they may well have standing to sue. It's going to get messy if it goes there for sure.
Using this, is it possible for live running application state on one device to be sent to another device, esp if running a different OS?
so are you in some kind of doom cult?
I'm not disputing her qualifications but going to war against the board is failing your duties. In a for profit it can work if you have your shareholders on your side but it's clear here that this maneuver can't work.
Their PPUs go to zero if there is no profit to be made and the 85B tender offer is likely also off. I suspect this makes it easier for many of them to quit
Death.

The default consequence of AGI's arrival is doom. Aligning a super intelligence with our desires is a problem that no one has solved yet.

"The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else."

----

Listen to Dwarkesh Podcast with Eliezer or Carl Shulman to know more about this.
Notably, public university press departments are scarcely any better in this regard than for-profit popular science publications. These are journalists who should have direct access to the researchers and they still get stuff laughably wrong.
Don't fully believe this, but the only rational explanation I can see is that Ilya knows they have AGI.

- Nuke employee morale: massive attrition, not getting upside (tender offer),
- Nuke the talent magnet: who's going to want to work there now?
- Nuke Microsoft relationship: all those GPUs gone,
- Nuke future fundraising: who's going to fund this shit show?

Just doesn't make sense.
There's a fascinating tour of WLW on YouTube, too...[1] back when radio was the cutting edge and all the young engineers would go balls to the wall with RF.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbHjcwIoTiY
He'll probably be relegated to some minor role like "Husband of Board Member #6"
I mean that "AI Safety" is (1) nebulous and (2) impossible.

Encryption can be used for good things and bad things. And yet no one is talking about "encryption safety."
Would be fun to see the training material, source code (engine & training data scraping systems), and models all leak. With Sam not returning that would be the double tap the now-zombie OpenAI'd need.
But why not use explicitly UTC datetimes?

You know they're UTC. Why do you want them to be naive?
*lower compensation
Hard to say what the impact on access to talent will be. I know people working in AI that wouldn't consider working at OpenAI out of perceived recklessness. At least one that I've been speaking with during this weekend said that this made them more open to the idea.
Andrej Karpathy: (radioactive emoji)

https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/1726478716166123851

Going nuclear?
I'm actually getting tired of this whole story, jeez.

they had an interim CEO: why exactly do they need a new interim CEO? it's been a couple of weekend days, zero business days. Not taking sides, none of this makes any sense, so much drama.

hypothesis: there's too much money on the table, and inasmuch as some people care more about the public welfare than money, too much of that too (meaning, a lot of money in something usually means it's something important, something of value, and therefore not all bad; so this is all just people trying to steer things the way they want them to go rather than the way other people want them to go)
Well the value of the company has almost certainly taken a large hit, especially now that Sam is definitely not returning

And no way Thrive, which was just about to buy up employee shares at $80-$90b, is going to go through with the tender offer now
I wonder how successful Sam's next AI venture will be without Ilya.
It's not just styling. The content is actually a `git format-patch` patch for the former a unified-format diff for the latter.
Large sample =/= (inherently) representative. What percentage of OpenAI researchers are on Twitter?

Follow-up: Why is only some fraction on Twitter?

This is almost certainly a confounder, as is often the case when discussing reactions on Twitter vs reactions in the population.
> It's always been my observation that the actual heavyweights of any hardcore engineering project are the ones that avoid snarky lightweight platforms like twitter like the plague.

What other places are there to engage with the developer community?
To shine some light on the true nature of the "AI safety tribe" aspects I highly recommend reading the other top HN post / article : https://archive.is/Vqjpr
> Sounds good to me.

Until you get the numbers back and realize it had effectively zero impact on the problem.

> Bring on the “but what if my friend is bleeding out in the backseat” arguments.

The police have no duty to save you. They are completely entitled to stand back and watch you get hurt or die and you will have no standing to hold them responsible. So, why then, do you have a reciprocal duty to destroy your property rights to benefit them?
I bet if Microsoft leaves anothe tech giant would be more than glad to provide some GPUs
Quora SEO'd their way to the top of most Google searches before the LLMs era.

Poe is not really meant as a value addition for Quora users. Poe was a general AI chat company, like ChatGPT.

Poe's unique selling point was their 'chat agents with customizable instructions/personality' and they were charging people money for this while pretty much building on OpenAI GPT API. They also had an agents store.

During DevDay when Sam announced GPTAgents and store, that was a fundamental threat to Poes existance.
As always, crazy Russians. Listening to radio with grass detector: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9UO9tn4MpI
Part of the interview process.
Adam was appointed to the OpenAI board in April 2018, long before ChatGPT and Poe. He's always been somewhat interested/involved in AI/ML so the appointment broadly makes sense to me.

Also keep in mind that a year earlier in Spring 2017 Sam Altman led Quora's Series D, after YC previously joined in on Quora's Series C in 2014. So the two of them clearly had some pre-existing relationship.

I don't think OpenAI and Quora (the product) are a serious conflict of interest. You claim "I'm sure Quora views took a hit after ChatGPT" but I really doubt that's true in any meaningful way. Quora's struggles are a separate issue and predate the GPT craze of the last year.

Nor were Poe and OpenAI competitors until recently; Poe was simply building on top of OpenAI models, the same as hundreds of other ventures in the space right now.

However...I do agree that the GPTs announcement two weeks ago now creates a very clear conflict of interest--OpenAI is now competing directly against Poe. And because of that, I agree that Adam probably should leave the board.

The timing also raises the question of whether booting Sam is in any way related to the GPTs launch and to Poe. Perhaps Sam wasn't candid about the fact that they were about to be competing with Adam's company. The whole thing is messy and not a good look and exactly why you try to avoid these conflicts of interest to begin with.
I think he has an insightful framework for thinking about what makes good data visualization

However I feel a lot of people miss the logic behind it all and just straight up copy the "Tuft style" which often is too stylized and iconoclastic. A good example are the plotting defaults in R's ggplot2
I think you've rediscovered Mar's law. "Everything is linear if plotted log-log with a fat magic marker."
448 logical processors.

Each logical processor is a hyperthread on 224 cores.

A logical processor is the number of the processor's cores multiplied by the number of threads per core.

2 threads per core.
Yeah I'm talking mainly about React + Typescript as a combo. With more gnarly Django templates sometimes it's hard to even know what we are looking at in a template, whereas inside a React component I'm going to be a "jump to definition" away, not just for components (or template tags in the case of Django, I know PyCharm offers good jump to def there, including for stuff like Angluar!), but for variables and the like as well.

I think django-components only has part of the story there, because even if that helps writing out your page, you're still looking at going to the other side of the frontend/backend wall to add, at the very least, an endpoint using that template. And if you're following this whole "hypertext API and data API as separate things", you'll need to also code handling of submitting any data, and routing involved.

I'm not against this stuff entirely, because I think there's a bit of a Go-like niceness to how it's "at worst" boilerplate (that you can abstract over on a per-project basis). But if you have a comfortable, well designed API all that work spread over you templates and controllers might actually all just be in one place.
This really depends on your tolerance for people.

If you are young, cities can be great for social life. I used to live right outside of DC after college and it was great when the important things in life were enjoying social gatherings and meeting girls.

Now that Im much older, I prefer seclusion because I don't really care that much for making new friends, and on the flipside I don't have to deal with idiots who inconvenience people around them because of careless, negligence, or stupidity.
Firing and homicide are different, but certainly he was betrayed, yes?
It's certainly telling when you're more known to be an actor's wife than anything to do with AI or the company you're on the board for.