skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I have never wanted kids, but I made a very small contribution to Django core, and after it was merged in, I realized that this is the most likely way that I could be remembered as a footnote in history, even if Django is retired from popular use.

A lot of people seek some kind of immortality through reproduction, but this is good enough for me!
That's such a meh board for a company like OpenAI.
> or just letting attrition nibble down their numbers without having to announce layoffs.

When you say it like that it sounds mean, but it's a pretty civilized way to handle downsizing if you ask me.
He took over as CEO of a fairly directionless company in Feb. 2014 -- since then, MSFT has paid out nearly $145 billion in cash as dividends, they have over $100 billion cash in the bank, and the value of their stock has increased by nearly 1,000%. One of the most successful tenures as CEO maybe ever?
If OpenAI hadn't restructured they wouldn't have gotten any money from Microsoft and they would have either run out of money or the team would have left and started ClosedAI. There's no scenario where they developed GPT-3/4 while staying nonprofit.
Must have been copy/pasted from someone else's comment ;-)
> I don't think it's correct not because it sounds like a sci-fi novel, but because I think it's unlikely that it's even remotely plausible that a new version of their internal AI system would be good enough at this point in time to do something like that

Aren't these synonymous at this point? The conceit that you can point AGI at any arbitrary speculative sci-fi concept and it can just invent it is a sci-fi trope.
> Christian eschatologists (i.e. people who are simultaneously anti-Semitic and pro-Israel).

“Christian eschatologists” could apply to about 100 different touted beliefs with a 1000 nuance flavors of each. Let’s not paint all those folks with a pro-Israel yet anti-Semitic brush. There may be some of that, but it’s certainly not all and not even enough to consider it a defining characteristic of most.
>Also a bit sad PyCoral requires python 3.9! Yikes!

It's a bit on the old side, but hardly yikes territory. Ubuntu 20.04 ships with 3.8 [1] as the system python with support until April 2025, and AWS supports 3.7-3.11 for lambda runtimes [2]. 3.12 has only just been released

[1] https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/python3

[2] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/lambda/latest/dg/lambda-runtimes...
There are other forms of evidence than double-blind studies, as the article rightly points out.

See also: https://www.bmj.com/content/327/7429/1459
Same here. I commute 3 days per week, 15 km each way. It takes me 35-40 minutes, but I enjoy it and get great exercise. I spend the time thinking about my day, and am happier and more productive if I've gotten that exercise.

I do get the occasional flat, but I learned to change it myself, and can get a new 4$ tube on in about ten minutes.

I pack rain pants and a shell and just put them on if a bit of rain comes. I only give up when the roads are snowed in and haven't been cleared yet, which is only a few days per year.

Most complaints about weather and maintenance are easily dealt with with a few basic skills and simple preparation.

It might sound like year round commuting is extreme - but ive found it far easier and far more enjoyable than I expected.
You clearly have not read the post everyone is discussing, which doesn't mention the ADL at all. It agrees with a post railing on jews. Not the ADL. "Jews".

Here is the post in question, I urge you to read what everyone is actually discussing:

https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1724908287471272299#m

"You have said the actual truth" in response to a post railing on jews. What he said after that is irrelevant, because the only appropriate responses to posts railing on jews is flatly ignoring or condemning them. Agreeing is the literal opposite.
The Microsoft Terraserver (1998)
Clearly there are sources. They are anonymous sources. Important news is delivered by anonymous sources every day.

Now, sure, you can't just trust anyone who tells you they heard something anonymously. That's where the the whole idea of journalists with names working for organizations with records of credibility comes from. We trust (or should) trust Swisher because she gets this stuff right, every day. Is she "never" wrong? Of course not. But this is quality news nonetheless.
> Let this be a lesson, don’t have a wacky ownership structure and wacky board when you have the (perhaps) the most valuable product in the world.

If your goal is to make money. I'd like to believe that for some of the people pushing the field forward, there are other motivations.
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm quite clear on what I meant, thanks.

all i want is to be casual again. over-analyzing simple remarks to attack an individual is a sign of genuine malice

GMAFB. If Musk wants to be casual he can just have an anonymous shitposting account, and perhaps he does. You're asking that we just ignore his extremely vocal aspirations on free speech, on transforming Twitter into an 'everything app', on the commercial realities of social media data mining with all the implications for privacy, surveillance and so on, and on the fact that we're on a news website for hackers where we take pride in finding clever ways to store, sift, and exploit huge fields of data. It's asinine to expect that the guy with the not-inconsiderable personality cult also be treated as a regular goof with a bunch of low-IQ takes and immunized from criticism on that basis.

Being casual is what anonymous posting is for. You can go to 4chan or wherever, shitpost, get things wrong, make an ass of yourself sometimes, and have conversations of no great consequence. I have done so for many years, and still do. Anonymous fora work because good or bad, popular or unpopular, your comments aren't tied to an identity and it frees you from a lot of ego traps as well as social restraints.

Musk on the other hand is vocally against anonymity, often citing the need to fight spam (although I don't think he's sincere about this, given the way Twitter/X actually operates and the specific changes he's made around API access and how reports are handled). If he doesn't believe in anonymous shitposting, and thinks people on social media should own their posts, then it's not unreasonable for others (eg advertisers) to take teh same attitude toward him.
Billions of dollars is a "mere sale?"

Lol
Huge scoop.
How so? It's just another firing and being escorted out the door.
From which evidence, people will conclude that there's no reason to fear that an independent entity might take unpredictable actions for inscrutable reasons after all.
Reading about Ilya, it seems like he is fully bought into AI hysteria.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
That's right. School generally starts at age 5 or 6 and kids exist before that age.
Haha yeah no I don't believe this. They're nowhere near AGI, even if it's possible at all to be there with the current tech we have, which is unconvincing. I don't believe professionals who work in biggest AI labs are spooked by GPT. I need more evidence to believe something like that sorry. It sounds a lot more like Sam Altman lied to the board.
This is all devolving into layers of semantics, but, “…capable of knowingly lying,” is not the same as “knows when it’s lying,” and I think the latter is far more problematic.
it has become a meme, but really a non-issue in real life if you used the mouse yourself really. A minute or so of charging is enough to power it for a whole day of use. plug it again when you leave your desk for a bit and you'll have enough charge for days.
The reason for the thinness of the Apple Mouse is so that gestures can be used on the top like a trackpad. If it were domes like a typical Logitech mouse, you couldn’t do that. Whether those gestures turned out to be useful is another question but that was the reason.
I have in mind that the CPI was already using push polling, but couldn't find that in Bernays when I went back to look. I'd be grateful if anyone has a reference.
Yes, and wins with an inferior product. Hooray /s

If the company's 'Chief Scientist' is this unhappy about the direction the CEO is taking the company, maybe there's something to it.
I'm also inclined to believe something like this happened.
Let's not put the cart before the horse

Even if they say this was for safety reasons, let's not blindly believe them. I am on the pro safety side, but I'm gonna wait till the dust settles before I come to any conclusions on this matter.
Requesting charitable donations isn't violent.
sadly it seems to be unavailable on Mac
When two people have different ideologies and neither is willing to backdown or compromise, one person must "go".
I’m guessing that Ilya wouldn’t have joined without the wacky structure, and I’ll wager that there are some people at the company of similar values. Maybe they could not have pulled off ChatGPT without them. Maybe.

But I bet that they have a ton of very talented people who’s values are more … common.

Ilya may be a singular talent, however.
I just got a job based on a referral from a friend that works there.

1. Small company
2. He's senior and has a strong rep
I think the point is that they shouldn't be using the word "Open" in their name. They adopted it when their approach and philosophy was along the lines of open source. Since then, they've changed their approach and philosophy and continuing to keep it in their name is, in my view, intentionally deceptive.
Magical and aspirational thinking is a defective organizational practice.
It would probably increase wear, not decrease it. When a vehicle with more than one non-steering axle turns, some of the tires must slide. It's mostly not too noticeable unless the corner is fairly tight or the trailer has at least three axles. You don't really want any more wheels on the ground than you need to support the load. Or you need to allow those axles to pivot.

Heck, even with my modest two-axle travel trailer I leave tire marks on my driveway where I have to turn sharply to get it onto the road.
he seems like a more credible source than random people with no real ml experience
There were some folks contributing to distributed.net that had entire corporate server fleets contributing. It was a different time. I don't know if the leaderboard is still available or archived, same with mailing list and IRC where people were admitting to it. Similarly, people in an IT admin capacity might push out a background process (distributed.net had a binary that would run as a service with no user interface exposed) to fleets of corp desktops with their identifier in the config for leaderboard purposes.

https://www.distributed.net/Policy ("distributed.net does not condone the unauthorized use of its software on any computer system. You may not run any distributed.net software on a system unless you own the system or have received permission from the owner to run distributed.net software. Running the client on a machine without authorization will result in your removal from the project and will disqualify you from winning.") [My note: This exists because of the above mentioned naughty behavior]

I should go digging for those EFnet IRC logs.
A GPT app builder is pushing too fast for Ilya?
It's not "just another firing," the statement accused Altman of lying to the board. Either he did and it's a justified extraordinary firing, or he didn't and it's hugely unprofessional to insinuate he did.
Does she not receive notifications from Twitter? Thus proving there is no shadowbanning?
This article is interpreting events in a way that casts a revealing shadow. There is a subtle and difficult concept - it is a terrible idea to force people to behave in line with the best available evidence.

In this era, it is hard to point that out without mentioning COVID so, y'know. COVID. But it has been true for long before that and it'll be true after the COVID response is forgotten.

People should be allowed to behave in ways that are inconsistent with the best available scientific knowledge. Otherwise, ironically, misconceptions will persist more readily.
Probably someone super competent at technical leadership.
such a sad painful subject. and toxic to boot. in seeking a partner the women in the article are looking in all the wrong places. humbly submitting that seeking a husband may lead to different outcomes. though that requires a level of commitment and sacrifice that our society can't fathom anymore. for either gender. good luck and godspeed.
From what's come out so far, it reads more like he thinks they're pushing too hard too fast on commercialization, not AGI. They're chasing profit opportunities at market instead of fulfilling the board's non-profit mission to build safe AGI.
On a positive note, 30-year fixed rate mortgages are super common in US.

Not so much in other parts of the world.
Or you introduce an authoritative third party that mediates their interactions. This feels like it wouldn't be a problem if so many high-ranking employees didn't feel so radically different about the same technology.
The problem is that the artificial “Jews vs Whites” dichotomy is a thinly veiled version of Jews vs Aryans.

The comment was made in response to another comment challenging those who say “Hitler was right”, implying that the problem comment agrees with that proposition.

I’m Jewish. I’m also white. These are not disjoint sets and a lot of harm has been done by people who believe they are disjoint sets. One is an ethnic group. The other is skin color. There is no conspiracy by Jewish people against white people.
Someone had mentioned in the other thread - he had equity via some yc investment somehow.
interesting. i found stuff on WARP and VPN but i’m not using that - just 1.1.1.1 on my router (and you do mention DNS). thanks for the tip.
There are a lot of entrepreneurial idealists and c-suite wannabes on HN. Opinions tend to lean more to the right here.
> since when would Google adopting a technology give them full control over the future of that technology

It's the Microsoft 90's playbook https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguis...
He's the michael corelone
If that's in ppm you're nowhere close to any limits I'm aware of. OSHA limits start at 5000ppm, which is approximately where the ISS and most submarines are kept. It's possible that 3000ppm would be a safer upper limit, but you're still at less than half of that.

It’s interesting because I’ve seen this CO2 anxiety on HN and Twitter before but I’ve never found any solid rationale for people to worry about CO2 concentrations at those magnitudes. Part of me wonders where this idea came from. Hopefully it isn’t just a ploy to sell CO2 monitors.
Interestingly parts of this comment section are behaving in Reddit-y ways, posting board members' Linkedins and questioning their credentials, as if their jobs are to just rubber stamp the CEO's calls.
I thought it was created to prevent specifically Google from having a monopoly on AI. So mission accomplished?
The wording is very clearly hostile and aggressive, especially for a formal statement, and the wording, again, makes it very clear that they are burning all bridges with Sam Altman, and it is very clear that 1. it was done extremely suddenly, 2. with very little notice or discussion with any other stakeholder (e.g. Microsoft being completely blindsided, not even waiting 30 minutes for the stock market to close, doing this shortly before Thanksgiving break, etc).

You don't really see any of this in most professional settings.
LinkedIn says President, Chairman, & Co-Founder. Murati was the CTO. But from his interviews, he sounded more like the CTO.

And often like an individual contributor: "the feeling when you finally localize a bug to a small section of code, and know it's only a matter of time till you've squashed it"

https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725373059740082475

"Greg Brockman, co-founder and president of OpenAI, works 60 to 100 hours per week, and spends around 80% of the time coding. Former colleagues have described him as the hardest-working person at OpenAI."

https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309033/greg-brockman...
Having worked on a team responsible for maintaining COBOL code, if from the 80s and not the 60s, it may "last," but it's also a rats nest of dependencies that's a pain in the ass to test, and part of the problem of moving away from it is 40 years of undocumented business logic baked into it over the years.
I'm ignorant and don't disagree - can you say more about why Ilya is the core of Open AI?
There's two kinds of referrals...the official ones with a program that goes through HR, then the unofficial where someone you know knows a hiring leader with an open spot. The latter is infinitely better.
Oh man the lawyers have to be so happy I bet they can hardly count.
Did he buy into it after he took the money from Microsoft? Because it seems like there's no turning back after that point.
You could probably do something simpler now since the new ARMs have good hardware virtualization support.
Alternate possibility would be that openAI faces core technical challenges delivering dev day features/promises. If deals were signed, they could be forced to deliver even if the board et al weren’t aligned on investment.
It's not dead. We just call it cloud computing now. After all what is a Kubernetes auto scaling solution if not distributed? Lambda/serverless compute even more so.

Also, in the heyday of Seti@home, computers were usually left on and didn't use a whole lot less power when idle because power management was far less advanced than it is now. Intel power states and gating were only just in their infancy. CPUs ran at fixed clock rates. And energy was cheap. So people didn't care.

These days it costs real money because idle time is much cheaper than heavy loaded time, and it's better spent financially donated to the organisations needing the compute and spent on cloud computing where they can manage the workload directly.
I write applications to run on the quest and it's miserable. Simply getting your apk onto the device is the most unnecessarily difficult things I've ever seen. In order to unlock developer mode, you have to have a Facebook account with your phone number associate with a Facebook developer group for your company which requires additional verification to set up.

Then you are required to install the oculus app on your phone and link it into your Facebook account. If you're lucky, this will work the second or third time you try it. Even then, sideloaded apps are hidden away in a separate menu.

Oh, and you think you can just use your quest tethered while you work in Unity? Good fucking luck. It's remarkably unreliable and unstable. Usually I get a black screen until I restart my headset, my computer, SteamVR, unity or a combination thereof. It's been over a year and I still don't know what the right incantation is. If you want to try air-link, you don't get hand tracking. Intentionally. It's not a technical limitation.

Beyond that, it's mostly-standard Android, which is also painful to develop for, but in new and exciting ways.

Conversely, targeting Valve Index and an ultraleap tracker is as easy as it gets. If your application runs on the PC where you're developing it, you're already done. It's plug and play almost every time. There's no extra layers of bullshit to wade through, you just open unity and hit play and that's it.

Well, unless you count all the ways that PC development sucks.

Development concerns aside, the quest is a low power phone with some cheap optics. Resolution is bad, frame rate is bad, battery is bad, it literally does not fit my face. I can't see anything because you only have three IPD choices and they're all wrong. Hand tracking is consistently worse than ultraleap, and with the latest update it's totally unusable for me. And I mean that I literally cannot select UI items. It nags me every 30 seconds about turning on my controllers. I also have this weird issue where different colors render at different depths. Red text floats above the surface and green is sunk below. It's really hideous.

The Quest is worse than a PC HMD in every way except that it's cheap. That's it, that's all it has going for it. It's cheap and technically does run VR.
My prediction : Sam agrees to some business deal the rest of the board found unethical. Something of magnitude "chatgpt used by the NSA".

Other predictions I've read here sound unconvincing to me. Already developed AGI, spending too much on compute - this is not something CEO alone could hide and I would trust other board members to understand those matter better.
It was previously a Google form without any confirmation. As of late October, they moved it to this privacy center that they keep conveniently well hidden.

This page provides confirmation that your request is processed: https://privacy.openai.com/policies
Electricity should be delivered to everyone, just like mail. It's not just a product, it's an essential public good.
Now that is a theory that actually adds up with the facts (whether true or not)
The profit seeking middlemen already extracted the profit. What’s happening now is massive expenditures to get the old infrastructure with shitty/faked documentation less shitty.

Nationalizing them now would just ‘socialize the losses’ as the state would be on the hook for all the crap.
I don't know anything about Microsoft's relationships with OpenAI.

What I do know, having worked for many large organizations, is that reading the daily press (or listening to the news) is a terrible way to get accurate real-time facts about current corporate happenings.

Related: check out Gell-Man amnesia effect.
You are not a professional at everything and you don't know what you don't know so things that seem easy might not be and in fact could have significant dangers. A person that does the thing every week is going to be efficient and knowledgeable. It also creates jobs and supports the economy. A lot of strong independent types are frugal and arrogant and self centered to the point of being a miser.
It seems you are conflating OpenAI the non-profit, with OpenAI the LLC: https://openai.com/our-structure
For the Quiz:

how do we know this is FAKE NEWS?:

a) doesn't fit the narrative
b) unpopular with progressives/influencers/fads/fashion
c) expresses viewpoints supported by large "ignorant" majorities at expense of special cases
d) all of the above

(it's d)
First, I’ve small hands. I started with the Mighty Mouse[1]. The current Magic Mouse is comfortable for my usage. The Mighty Mouse (Wireless) was the perfect one.

I tried one of those Magic Mouse “enhancements” (2009-2010) -- a white silicon contraption -- that sits atop the mouse. It was handy, and I used it for a while. I eventually got used to the mouse in its form and stopped trying any modifications.

I have tried the Master Series from Logitech, and I like them but don’t use all the functions. I like the simplicity of the Magic Mouse.

Charging - I do it once in 45 days, or when it complains — leave it charged -- have tea, walk/run, or read. Charging was never a problem, and I believe everyone else making a lot of noise about the charging is just overblowing it. If you remember to leave it charged overnight, it needs no charging for the next month or so.

1. https://cdn.oinam.com/img/oinam/brajeshwar-apple-mighty-mous...
Look to join neighborhood associations that influence city policy. Reach out to your council person or the mayor, depending on how big your city is. Talk to neighbors.
I read that word as not being forthcoming moreso than actively lying. But I don't read many firing press releases.
you may want to check https://www.veryfi.com/
> who underestimates their capabilities

Did you happen to mean overestimates? Just trying to make sure I understand.
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