skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The problem with BEVs isn't actually any single vehicle, BEVs really are good enough for anyone, today. The real issue is going to be scaling up battery manufacturing to the point that we make enough for everyone to have a BEV, which really is not as much of a given as people seem to assume.

EV sales are still at only around 20% of the market, which is a lot! But given that the majority of lithium batteries are already going into EVs now total battery production needs to go up by something like a factor of 5 by 2030 just to meet EV sales. That's a huge amount of growth for any industry, let alone high tech manufacturing.

I would not be surprised to see the relative growth of EV sales stall soon as manufacturers have trouble sourcing enough batteries, and in response we may see some Hybrids or EREVs coming onto the market to meet the shortfall. After all, a battery that gets you 50km is good for 90% of trips for a significant number of people, but you couldn't buy it without a range extender because of that last 10%.
20 years ago? No for either.

Now? Yes for Kenneth Lay (assuming he was still alive and/or not hiding on a desert island under a new identity if I put on my tin foil hat)... Madoff, probably not.
Out of curiosity, in this specific case, what sort of direct proof would satisfy you
If that’s your attitude, then your coworkers probably don’t want you back in the office either.
Pending lawsuits aren't a thing that warrants taking action before the market closes.
Weirdly, they can find ways to do it, e.g. the sale of Open edX to 2U (an absolute private-sector shark) for $800 million.
Your problems seem to highlight especially America's problems, where "raving lunatics" seem to be found also in road rage, at groceries, churches, and schools (highway shootings, especially).

But in Japan, Switzerland, Barcelona, Italy, Ireland, Austria, Sweden, or the Netherlands I've not experienced this much; in many of these cultures since the public bus also serves schools and the elderly, they solve these problems.
A fair amount of the EU market is also on it, it's not a special Texas company thing.
Millennials aren't all worse off than Boomers, but the rich-poor gap is widening
Why I haven't run an Indiegogo campaign
I think you need to check your math. There are 14 times more of these electric mopeds, etc than cars, but they only have 4x more impact than the EVs. So one EV displaces about 3.5x more carbon emissions than the mopeds.

To make the 2030 halve our emissions deadline, and 2050 net zero deadline with just little city vehicles, we’ll need to abandon the suburbs, exurbs and rural buildings and infrastructure that we already have, and replace it without producing any additional emissions. Also, in the US, most cities that experienced significant growth after ~ 1950 need to have their new parts razed and rebuilt to accommodate public transit routes and add walkable amenities.

None of that can possibly happen at sufficient scale in the next 7 years, and it certainly would have massive environmental impact if it did.

Alternatively, we could switch all cars to EV’s, use existing construction and infrastructure, and get a > 75% reduction in transportation carbon, even without cleaning up the power grid.

In reality, we are already cleaning up the grid, and time of use subsidies are doing a good job of moving time-shiftable demand to high-production times, when the grid is cleaner.

EVs are currently one of the biggest, easy to time shift loads.

So, we can have a 90% solution to transportation carbon, or go for a 97.5% improvement (rounding the 3.5x improvement moving to mopeds would give up to 4x), but then emit way more carbon than total transportation emissions while we rebuild an unprecedented number of cities all at once.

I’m all for public transit, and think all new urban / suburban housing should be built along high capacity transit corridors, but doing that isn’t going to solve global warming in time.
Could always be planning to parlay it for an even bigger role in the future
Distance isn't the only issue. Nobody needs that kind of power in a truck to get around in.

But short haul and heavy duty like in a mine, this would be very handy.
Some people have mentioned "dog whistle" attacks, but the stuff they linked to doesn't actually appear to be of that nature.

Is it possible that people are just making assumptions and/or reading too much into his tweets?

To me this seems like a storm in a teacup...
He's not just a CEO, he's a co-founder, and thinking he has no stake in the company is just ridiculous.
I assume you mean ‘hair on fire,’ which suggests a move done in a panic. “Pants on fire” means the subject is lying.
Yes, the phrase really taking off!
What the Gig Economy Does to a Human
Please stop doing this. If I want to read ChatGPT's thoughts I'll consult it directly, your HN posts should reflect your own views. Otherwise it's just information pollution.
How is this relevant to the story?
It absolutely does come up with its own content. It's especially evident when it confabulates apis.
Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?
Wouldn't be surprised if that was true. Public GPT-4 can be made to "think" using stream-of-consciousness techniques, to the extent that it made me rethink using insults as a prompting technique. I imagine that un-RLHF'ed internal versions of the model wouldn't automatically veer off into "as an AI language model" collapse of chains of thought, and therefore potentially could function as a simulator of an intelligent agent.
embedded system engineers have always had low salaries... I don't think I've ever seen an embedded C or C++ job pay more than $130k. I made more than that writing JS almost ten years ago..
Lots more fun than I expected on my iPhone. Thank you
> I don't really understand people who pay others to do every little thing they need done around the house

I realized that it is cheaper for me to pay someone do some things than doing them myself. Instead, I can either work or do something fun or more interesting.
Allegedly. About these sensitive topics, that's very important to say!
Having equity is far from the only way he could profit from the endeavor. And we don't really know for certain that he doesn't have equity anyway.

It's even possible (just stating possibilities, not even saying I suspect this is true) that he did get equity through a cutout of some sort, and the board found out about it, and that's why they fired him.
It was probably good value for anyone that owned any surrounding property.

Ideally the increase in property value should be captured by the public who made the investment - self funding effectively. But that's just the old LVT argument.
Not surprised. This summer I had a conversation with a senior staffer at OpenAI who had smoke coming from his ears due to Sam's incompetence. Contrary to his public image, he doesn't have the skillset of a CEO. He was a failed founder who was hired to head YC because he's smart and likeable. He was in a similar role at AI - a brainy media mouthpiece. Real work being done by senior staff. OpenAI's massive scale-up requires a new leadership style.
95% of people commenting on this thread live within a short drive of the Amtrak North East corridor and absolutely should convert to an EV as fast as possible. For people who dont live in the NY megolopolis... the factors are different.
This seems more likely!
90% of what I've seen for months is dropshipping companies called Flurghh or Zamblot but Apple, Disney and Amazon were the few recognizable names.
Not sure what you mean by this, it is used by the military, and not in secret:

https://scale.com/donovan

Scroll down on the page, OpenAI is listed as a model provider, with logo and everything.

Or do you mean some kind of more 'direct' deal with military?
They waited for the Friday news dump to make the announcement, not clear exactly how much of a hurry it was.
The Hailo (https://hailo.ai) is the biggest competitor at the moment. It is a lot more powerful while not requiring much more power. It does, however, have some problems with Pyhon's GIL and documentation is not always perfect. Other than that it's like the Coral but much better.
I've never seen a test viewing, so I apparently had a somewhat naïve idea. Thanks for the heads up!
This isn't the only thing he's gotten right, just the latest.

Aside from this, You can't drop internal project names or company release dates months and weeks before time without being in the know somehow. Random isn't that good lol.
Not sure Eric Schmidt is exactly a great judge of character. If anything that is an anti-signal
Yep, and the "Twitter mob" is much more right wing now with Elon as CEO, so they're far more likely to conflate criticism of Israel with antisemitism.
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Do gag orders usually stop you from talking to your board about it, or people you work with?
They’re pretty good at English and other languages!
I have a black friend so I cannot be racist?
I use ChatGPT4 several times a day. It’s what Google used to be before the radical shift in the omnibox. I find it so helpful and I hope it continues to improve post Sam.
I could easily see him, or any other insider, setting themselves up administrating a recipient entity for contributions out of those “capped profits” the parent non-profit is supposed to distribute. (If, of course, the company ever becomes profitable at the scale where the cap kicks in.)

Seems like it would be a great way to eventually maintain control over your own little empire while also obfuscating its structure and dodging some of the scrutiny that SV executives have attracted during the past decade. Originally meant as a magnanimous PR gesture, but will probably end up being taught as a particularly messy example of corporate governance in business schools.
If the liability is the battery exploding, then how are hybrids any different? They still have the same type of battery, just smaller.
That's my point though is with the eBike, I can dress warm for the start of the ride, and then crank up the pedal assist when I start warming up too much.
That's already the norm in the UK. To be honest I'd forgotten many residential roads in the US were dual cartridge ways. That does make things more tricky.
Does this include the newest headset? That one looked pretty good feature wise.
From where I'm sitting (not in Silicon Valley; but Western EU), Altman never inspired long-term confidence in heading "Open"AI (the name is an insult to all those truly working on open models, but I digress). Many of us who are following the "AI story" have seen his recent communication / "testimony"[1] with the US Congress.

It was abundantly obvious how he was using weasel language like "I'm very 'nervous' and a 'little bit scared' about what we've created [at OpenAI]" and other such BS. We know he was after "moat" and "regulatory capture", which we know where it all leads to — a net [long-term] loss for the society.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35960125
MSFT is up 55% YTD at all-time highs. That 1% drop at the announcement is the initial reaction which will probably disappear come Monday.

You bury bad news on Friday afternoon.
bypassing Steam I presume?
Gamma-ray burst charged Earth's ionosphere from 2B light-years away
Remember how wild it was when Apple announced a $500 smartphone. They were literally laughed at and everyone thought it was utter insanity. Nobody could have ever predicted how rapidly society would adopt smartphones, and the massive changes our lives have seen because of it.

I expect the change to EVs will follow a similar path, and in ten years there will be "experts" looking back saying "It's unprecedented - we NEVER could have predicted this!".
Presumably, they could sell their business operations and the associated assets, and the non-profit entity would be left with the proceeds of the sale. I guess that could happen if the non-profit thought they could fulfill their purpose better with a big pile of cash to spend on something else rather than the original going concern.
Most systems don’t care much about their clocks being physically super accurate, but they very much care their clocks being tightly in sync with the rest of the world. That’s what the sync service accomplishes.
Battery recycling is also very good. Most all car batteries are recycled. Once you have enough lithium or whatever dug up, it'll just get cheaper to recycle for the most part.
I’m not sure you would have such a cavalier answer if you had suffered the same consequences as those people in Texas. The situation has to be accounted for.
Steam is the only "digital goods" platform that I meaningfully use and I'm still not entirely happy with that arrangement since, although their terms and conditions currently says they'll offer a DRM-free download if the service were to ever stop, they can change that fact at anytime and have quietly changed other things historically. I often buy older titles from sites like GOG if I just need the game files from some open-source reimplementation and don't need cloud saves or any other Steam features.

Valve was savvy enough to offer additional value and convenience with the platform (especially with all the Linux development they've contributed lately). The ability to easily play a large majority of my Windows games on Linux via Proton, sync those game files between systems automatically, and have built-in IM/VoIP/remote-access is almost worth the fact it might all disappear at a moments notice.
Fractured Knowledge (2013)
Good move.

I wish CEOs and owners were more vocal about their beliefs. It would help weeding the garbage out.
Quasi-closed is an understatement. You could almost sue them for false advertising.
Lesson from Sam Altman's Firing: Avoid VC Money
Maybe so, but Indian English practically its own dialect at this point.

Nothing wrong with that, but the responses I get from ChatGPT are not in that dialect. (Who knows, maybe by paying for ChatGPT Plus I qualify for an upgrade to the Irish data center.)
The problem was that reports from women were sometimes being downplayed or dismissed. The solution is to stop doing that.
Colleges face gambling addiction among students as sports betting spreads
They do not seem to have learned the hard lessons of Familiar License + New Patch from Commons Clause. There are good reasons to expect they'll experience similar confusion and hesitation.

I've been working with colleagues to publish reusable restricted licenses through PolyForm Project (https://polyformproject.org/) for a few years now. I'd like to publish a form for scheduled relicensing through them as well, and blogged about it here: https://writing.kemitchell.com/2023/10/24/Scheduled-Relicens.... That's still a work in progress, but pretty close to presentable.
OpenAI is a Foundation. IANAL, but I don't think it can be bought by a company.
Worldcoin https://worldcoin.org/ deserves a mention
> Time Travel Mishap

Obviously he's a real life terminator sent from the future to create the technology behind skynet and kill Linda Hamilton.
> That's exactly the scenario I gave where 2.5G WAN would be useful, but a 1G LAN to each machine...

You're moving goal posts now because your original comment, the one that sparked this discussion, neither mentioned 2.5G WAN nor that your 1G comment was specific to each machine rather than internet connectivity as a whole.

> but a 1G LAN to each machine is likely enough for most tasks, for most people - multiple users simultaneous use.

For today, yes. But you're demonstrating a massive failure of imagination by assuming those needs are going to be the same in a few years time. For example, the 4k figures you're quoting are fine and dandy if you don't take into account that TV manufacturers are going to want to sell newer screens. Which means more emphasis on content with high colour colour depths, refresh rates and resolutions. This isn't even a theoretical point, there are already 8k @ 120FPS videos on YouTube.

Heck, I've already hit the 1GbE limit for a few specific bits of hardware in my home set up. Mainly my home server and some "backbone" wiring between two core switches which join two separated buildings on my property. But if I'm hitting that limit today then it's not going to be many more years before other people start hitting it for far less esoteric reasons than mine.

You're also overlooking that fact that if you have router providing GbE to desktops and WiFi 6 to other devices, it's very unlikely to be powerful enough to switch all of those devices at gigabit speeds, let alone routing at 2.5G to the WAN. And that's with regular IPv4 packages, never mind the additional overhead that IPv6 adds. Underpowered consumer networking equipment is already impacting home users right now. So again, we are seeing limits being hit already.

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Lets also not forget all the other noise being introduced into homes. Smart speakers uploading voice recordings for speech-to-text analysis. Smart doorbells and over security devices uploading video. Smart lights, fridges, plugs, plant pots and whatever else phoning home. Set top TV boxes, and other multimedia devices phoning home, downloading software updates and streaming adverts. In fact have you ever run wireshark on your average home network recently? There is a lot of noise these days and that's only set to grow exponentially.
Or the people getting those prices are carmakers with negotiated bulk discounts, and they don't have any reason to sell their cells on eBay.

> damaged goods

A damaged battery is recycling material, not a resale item.
For sure https://github.com/OneBusAway/onebusaway-ios
The first word of your post being the most important part of it.
What public utilities in California are doing such a good job that you feel that kind of drastic action would be justified?
I am no longer sure there is much disagreement... just a different perspective on the world, I guess?

What you say is kinda true, but directly proportional to time since the last commit (currently for uBlock 9hours ago). If there has been a commit over the last few days, yes, I (not particularly reasonably, but still) expect there to be updates. But this expectation (and reasonableness) diminishes with this commit further away, if that becomes months and then years, I no longer expect that.

And in your hypothetical conversation, a lot hinges on your exact framing and phrasing of both the (non)entitled question and the phrasing of the answer. Yeah, your hypothetical developer is a dick. Don't be a dick, both sides.

Again, I feel there isn't enough disagreement here for argument. Enjoy your perspective, have a good day or night.
There's an official CLI though isn't there?
> The board’s letter pretty explicitly said he lied to them

I assume you mean the OpenAI board's announcement, which is now at the top of HN?

https://openai.com/blog/openai-announces-leadership-transiti...

Note that the tweet under discussion in this thread is about Altman and YC.
You have to solve housing. Nobody wants to commute 50 miles by electric scooter.
Look at the comment two levels above about Adam Neumann.
I guess I don't understand what this software does.
They are designed in Sweden but Polestar (along with Volvo) is now owned by Geeley, a Chinese company.
We still don't even know if AGI is at all possible.
Yeah Sam A has a chance to go even higher as you said, Just like Sam B.
The Ports of Los Angeles require decarbonization, and so this is not required to go great distance, but rather to spend a day moving containers around at the port.
Deer herds in city limits can in fact be an issue! DC’s is substantial enough that the Park Service has to hire sharpshooters to keep it under control. One deer even wandered into the lion enclosure at the National Zoo a few years ago, with predictable results.
Perhaps we need to build out a way for clients to be able to trust content. Not signed with Hanks' public key, or the key of a reputable news source? The client, my tv, or whatever, should make that obvious somehow. The industry certainly spends plenty of effort developing ways for content producers to trust clients.

But I'm probably just another tech bro suggesting a technological solution to a social problem.
You have to solve housing and/or transportation.

Nobody wants to commute 50 miles by electric scooter; if that's their only viable option other than a car, car it will be.
He would own roughly 10% of https://worldcoin.org/ which aims to be the non-corruptible source of digital identity in the age of AI.
My bet - security issue involving data loss, but the data loss was the GPT model itself.
Imagine being a scientist on the wrong side of the orca wars. Spend your time figuring out how save nature, instead.
Nature's Invisibility Cloak
Your arguments are technically valid, and explain why AMD is doing this, but the eventual outcome is that for the (many!) non-corporate users of would-be-ML-hwardware you get better service by avoiding AMD/ROCm and buying nVidia hardware instead, because there you do get appropriate software support also for old cards, gaming cards, and old gaming cards And afterwards the AMD community is wondering why researchers and toolmakers have limited support their ecosystem - this is why.
It has to be something time sensitive or they would never fire him in this way. Also Sutskever is on the board, who has as much understanding of how far away AGI is as anyone on Earth.
Yes but there is no universe where I want to expose myself to capped upside and unbounded loss.

Or stated more generally over a large population building in the insurance is favorable to you because you will never collect on those five figure residential bills, charging ruinous amounts of money for the average family are just loss.
I'm impressed with the number of narcissists giving grandiose statement without having a clue of what happened.
So you don't have an answer? Got it.
Not directly related to the issue, but a lot of comments here seem to be under an impression that OpenAI is a company.

It is not, is a Non-Profit foundation. It can't pay profits for shareholders, usually board members don't get billionaires.
As someone who first played a CD copy of Half-Life before picking up the Steam version, it's amazing to see that they brought back features which were neglected from the Steam release – most notably the viewroll when moving left & right and a semi-recreation of the old main menu.

Many of the QOL changes are greatly appreciated (especially grenade physics), the changes to technical limitations (and addition of func_vehicle) will be a godsend for modders, and I'm surprisingly over the moon that Valve have acknowledged the psyched out Barney from the alpha.
This is the most plausible speculation I've read here, really.
Any company offering an API is going to have some percentage of their customers every month who are shocked to learn that a bug or other failure to rate-limit their own scripts has led to a bill that's 100x larger than they were expecting.

These customers are angry, call Support and Accounting to demand refunds, and cancel their service. There's no upside to having unhappy customers.

Switching to pre-paid billing is probably just better for everyone.
Satya Nadella's Statement on OpenAI
Which is more a symptom of incompetence than some big conspiracy.
Agreed, discriminating what language contains is the issue.
How does wood compare to gas/coal/etc? I always hear that biofuels are not great compared to other renewables, is wood somehow different? Doesn't it make lots of particulate if you don't have a high end modern stove?
I've never used ClojureScript, but if I'm reading this correctly the big difference between it and Squint is the representation of data structures where ClojureScript uses something clever and Squint uses basic JavaScript structures.

How are you finding the implications of that decision? Thoughtful data structures choice seems to be one of Clojure's biggest advantages so I'm assuming there is a lot to dig through here.

Also, thanks for being a star. I nearly started this post with "Wow, what a neat beginner project, welcome to the Clojure community" but my grin threatened to hurt my face so I gave up on that idea.