skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The board aren't going to be able to hire someone who is both an effective and experienced CEO and willing to completely ignore their misconduct. If it turns out the actions of the board weren't reasonable, it's hard to see how it can survive in it's current form.

Emmet Shear presumably had very little to do with the prior events, but if he's going to salvage the company, he needs to control the narrative around the governance. That means either publicly justifying the boards actions or changing the board.
A pity then that you blindly believe everything negative you read about Israel without applying a modicum of thought or research to it. You’d be sick way less often if you stopped swallowing lies like this hook, line, and sinker.
That could easily be changed after it's built.
Undoubtedly they have a perpet on what they released so far: chatgpt4. Not so for new innovations or tech.
I can see our miscommunication here. I feel we need more resolution between the binary of urban and rural.

Where I grew up we'd have the neighbors cows wander into our yard and eat our plants when they got out. The Census defined it as urban.

So when I see Renton, WA and you ask if it's "urban", well yeah I'd agree it's urban by the census and limited binary choices. Is it "urban" like San Francisco or Manhattan or even Seattle? Not even close, it's far from that still. It's almost all single family detached homes.
Dr. 赵 is probably a good guy and everything, but he himself doesn't claim to be "top talent", since I think he's pretty junior.

His title on LinkedIn is just "Member of Technical Staff". https://www.linkedin.com/in/shengjia-zhao/
Ask HN: are ChatGPT 4 results worsening since this weekend for you?
Now this maybe pure bad luck & superstition.

But ChatGPT seems extremely lazy since yesterday. I haven't been able for it to write out entire pieces of code. Used it 4-5 instances.

Now this might be pure luck, but it does feel like it's cutting back on resources, might be related to current drama with Altman.
Ok but that can be said of any technology. Chemistry is bad because someone used it to poison their friend. Phones are bad because it can be used for bomb threats, cars are bad because they put out of work the whole horse industry and you can go on and on forever.
Every single technology can be abused but it doesn't mean that they mainly cause damage.
The term "unlimited" is clearly as misnomer. 4-6 Weeks seems to be the zone of acceptability.

1. If you are not taking enough PTO your manager should intervene and make you take some time off.

2. If you are taking too much time off your manager should intervene and refuse the time off.

3. The unwritten rule is that unless you booked it six months before, upcoming critical deliveries are not a good time to take time. Again however, this should have been mitigated by the fact it WAS booked six months ago by management.

That said. no-one is PTO clock watching unless its abused. It should be a self-regulating idea. You are getting work done, you and your efforts are successful then sure take the time.
Animals whose blood isn't red (2021)
Some components of some Intel CPUs are made by TSMC. So, I’m not convinced that there wouldn’t be “TSMC bottleneck”.
An easy way to find positive things in many human situations:

1. Try to observe people interacting on a daily basis.

2. Note the range and distribution of demonstrated behaviours.

3. Pick a reasonable cutoff (eg median or mode).

Now, whenever you see people behaving better than the cutoff —even if their behaviour is far from some hypothetical ideal— you are witnessing a positive thing.

[To answer your direct question: infrequently to rarely. Back in the last century it was believed that if one does not have anything nice to say it is better not to say anything at all. (and failing that, there were even backhanded circumlocutions like "bless their heart" which could be pressed into service)]
… not using instagram has social costs?

(I lived in a place where WhatsApp is ubiquitous, but honestly I don’t even know if I know someone who uses instagram and it’s certainly not used socially meaning with people I socialise face-to-face)
Haha “we’ll give residents window blinds” actually lolled.
I'm surprised that non-compete for Sam and Greg are never mentioned. True, Microsoft's huge position in OpenAI means that there wouldn't be any retaliation, but I am wondering if this is still a friction point or not.
Pt. 2 will be the software side of this (Domesday) project, not the vhs-decode. Software is considerably more complex and nuanced than capturing and why he decided to make a 2-part video for a deeper dive.

I'm hoping he does vhs-decode too, it's far more accessible and potentially can bring the attention to more people as this also serves many's personal purposes of having a digital master of their home tapes (and not necessarily or exclusively preserving [no longer available] commercial media.
Yes. Well, it seems like it to me.

Here's more about Justin.tv the new interim CEO. It isn't paywalled.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/20/who-is-emmett-shear-the-new-...
Right now, I'd guess engineering and growing custom life forms, like The Thought Emporium is doing. Not sure how long that will last for.
The number of situations where I have had to do miserable things in file formats (admittedly not APIs) to handle extending a format that was rushed together by a previous developer who did not make it extensible or support future versions makes me think that versioning is really important.

Little company-specific binary file formats are just the worst.
In spirit of time respect it would be cool to generate some art with AnimateDiff
I feel like I’m missing something about this chatGPT craze… to me the product is chatGPT, and it’s mostly fleshed out (would like to see the ability to upload an image, as part of a conversation), I don’t see the appeal for paying 100x more for every new iteration for a marginal reduction in misinformation.

To me the target user of chatGPT needs to have some level of expertise in the domain their asking a question, as based on how gpt works, chatGPT will eventually produce an output with misinformation, therefore someone familiar with the subject matter would have a higher chance at catching the nuance in a response and be able to continue their conversation.
> the SEC would arrest Sam

SEC does not have the power to arrest anyone. Their investigations are civil.
Starting to think this was all some media stunt where they let ChatGPT make boardroom decisions for a day or two.
The whole point seems to be the screens though. Without that, it’s just a grubby expensive ball sitting there.
The Sphere is going to be turned off 30% of the time within the next 3-5 years, guarantee it.

I have never in my life seen an outdoor LED display last (yes, even with AC), and the maintenance on this one is going to be monumental.
This makes it seem like all altruistic non-profit endeavors have never worked which is obviously not the case.
Really absolutely fascinating to see this unfold. I believe more and more the most realistic explanation is the next GPT will be mind-blowing.
What a total mess this has been all around.
This. This is why Windows has kept backwards compatibility by heroic efforts on the part of its devs: because they do actually have clients (US-DOD is the obvious one) who can refuse breaking updates entirely and have enough leverage to make that stick. They also know that users who do somehow leave the Windows desktop ecosystem aren't coming back.

C# managed a semi-breaking migration by having a library format that was compatible with old and new: "netstandard".
Use the bully pulpit and massive propaganda resources of the government to hammer his opposition. Use the levers of executive power to find ways to implement his agenda without the legislator, just as Biden does in the US with split congress. And finally caucus with the conservative parties who openly backed him.
The thing is, that I do not trust meta not to do shady stuff with my data, regardless if I pay or not. History has shown, that they could not care less about privacy. Also, how would I, as an EU citizen even control that there are keeping my data save?
An interesting side-effect, is that Sam and others could use their influence to push internal people at OpenAI to release their models and weights, so other companies can build upon them.
Why is this a disaster? They managed to acquihire the founders of a 90B company. Probably the most important company in the world until last Friday.

Seems like a huge win to me. They can write off their entire investment in OAI without blinking. MS farts out 10B of profit in about a month.
YouTube company should be split into two. One for client, one for infrastructure. And they should ban them from your exclusive deals with each other.
Elon Musk says the risk of advanced AI is so high that the public needs to know
EV are not the one solution!
Good thing I am not conservative, and anyone with a basic understanding of economics and demographics understands that the current model is not sustainable, this idea that "well people having been saying it would collapse for awhile now" means it will never happen is pretty dense, some how I bet you would reject the same position if I were to apply to say Climate Change?

>>all developed democracies manage something like it, and it goes just fine. And the debt continues to be a perfectly manageable amount relative to GDP, which is the only thing that actually matters.

Soo we do not have an economic crisis, high inflation, housing prices out of control, and various other economic problems? or do you believe all of that is disconnected from government spending?

Government needs to spend more to solve those problems? is that your solution/?
The analysis in the article is mostly very good, but I object to this observation

`The biggest loss of all, though, is a necessary one: the myth that anything but a for-profit corporation is the right way to organize a company.`

I don't see how anything that happened this weekend leads to this conclusion. Yes, it seems likely that the board's actions will result in an OpenAI with much smaller revenue and consumer traction. But the whole reason for setting up OpenAI as a non-profit was precisely ensuring that those were not the overriding goals of the company.

The only conclusion that seems warranted is that "the myth that anything but a for-profit corporation is the right way to organize a for-profit company.", but that is pretty obvious.
The cheerleaders are the LLM AI future true believers. I imagine they are the same people that were telling us about how NFTs will change the world last year.
1. Illustrators

2. Photographers (Check out Photo.AI). I know a local photographer who takes nice portraits for businesses. Now people can use this service for their headshots. (You may argue that it's good for people but at which point does it remain good if NOBODY can use their creative talents to make a living.)

3. Writing. Many websites are now using writers to write their articles. That means they hire less writers. Again, you can say that it makes society more efficient and I guess it does for consumers, but those people such as copy editors will have to find new jobs.

You may say that new jobs will be created but we have not seen such a versatile tool that can take away so many jobs at such a quick pace before. Moreover, will the world really be a nice place to live in if most of the creative jobs or at least jobs involved IN producing something nice will be left to machines?

What about Hollywood and their desire to replace writers and actors? You may say that Hollywood is dead anyway, but I'm sure it's about to get a lot worse...
What a wild weekend... there are too many strange details to have a simple narrative in my head at this point.
Wow, that is pretty disgusting behavior.
Called it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38310339
Hah, that is such a late 2000s style video! I love it. That's genuinely interesting but also kind of frightening at the same time.

I'm not sure this effect makes total sense to me, though. Normally, a radio signal is a single (center) frequency that is modulated by either amplitude or frequency shift. How can the sound coming from the arcing between the antenna and the grass be that clear at certain points in the video? If it were FM, I'd expect to hear mostly arcing and some faint audio signal a side effect of constant arcing, so maybe it's using AM? Maybe I'm just trying to find a reason to not believe what I saw.
It was the most sophisticated engineering not because of the long vacuum, but because of the tolerances, the semi-novelty of the superconducting coils at the time, the sensitivity of the equipment needed, and the extreme data collection capabilities needed to capture and store as much information as possible on picosecond timescales. None of these factors are necessarily applicable to a hyperloop.

Even so, once you've built one LHC, subsequent ones would be substantially cheaper because the primary difficulty is building the scientific and engineering knowledge needed while you're building it. Similar factors apply to programming: the first version of your program took awhile to build, but if you suddenly lost all of the code, rebuilding it would take a fraction of the time because you don't have to build your understanding of the domain the second time around.

Maybe all of these factors combined still wouldn't be enough to make hyperloop economical, but that conclusion is not obvious.
People accept the choice between untracked/unpersonalized ads and payment. The issue has always been the level of personalized tracking involved, which many people believe should be illegal (and many believe is already illegal in some juristictions).
If OpenAI is beholden to Microsoft for investment, and OpenAI's license is exclusive to Microsoft, OpenAI has nothing to offer those who remain except mission and ramen. If OpenAI slows their own research, that impairs future profit allocation potential to remaining talent. Enterprise customers will run to Azure GPT, and Microsoft will carry the research forward with their resources.

This morning at OpenAI offices will be talent asking current leadership, "What have you done for me lately?"

Edit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38348010 | https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1726598360277356775 (505 of 700 Employees OpenAI tell the board to resign)
You keep saying this. Why?
I'm familiar with the PISA study as being an objective measurement for what you're describing. If I remember correctly the US scored somewhere in the middle of the field, just above Croatia (technically a 3rd world country, as when it was part of Yugoslavia it was also part of the Non-aligned movement during the cold war or 3rd world. The phrase was later turned into a derogatory term by some pretty crafty spin doctors).

I remember the US getting constantly humiliated on the study and stopped taking it. I also remember it being a big thing here in the EU. Pretty much all national TV channels were covering their respective scores.

That was some time ago and I do believe you might be right and that things have improved dramatically. However how does one track this now-a-days? I tried the PISA website, but it seems to have been mostly discontinued, as the last published survey seems to be from 2018. So I'm basically looking for a source that compares education objectively by country with recent data.
-ChatGPT Plus
-Otter
-Zoom
-LinkedIn Business

Without all of them, it's hard to imagine my productive activity
What are you talking about? I can easily access multiple German newspapers and read their articles, without paying and also without having a personal profile that harvest personal information.
People are thinking this guy is rich. He’s a pawn like anyone else without a billion dollars. This means nothing for tech.
I, for one, never gave a flying shit about OpenAI’s “openness”, which always felt like a gimmick anyway. They gave me a tool that has cut my work down 20-40% across the board while making me able to push out more results. I care about that.

Also AGI will never happen IMO. I’m not credentialed. Have no real proof to back it up and won’t argue one way or the other with anyone, but deep down I just don’t believe it’s even physically possible for AGI. I’ll be shocked if it is, but until then I’m going to view any company with that set as its goal as a joke.

I don’t see a single thing wrong with Altman either, primarily because I never bought into the whole “open” story anyway.

And no, this isn’t sarcasm. I just think a lot of HN folks live with rosy-tinted glasses of “open” companies and “AGI that benefits humanity”. It’s all an illusion and if we ever somehow manage to generate AGI it WILL be the end of us as a species. There’s no doubt.
Show HN: Business ideas not tied to a location
Twitter bets big on CEO's son
It has been changed now but it was the wrong link (https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/login/) for 3 hours with 900 upvotes.
> If a certain move shapes the opponent's remaining possible moves into a smaller subset, hasn't AlphaGo "looked ahead"?

You're confusing the reason why a move is good with how you can find that move. Yeah, a move is good due to how it shapes the opponent remaining moves, and this is also the reasoning we make in order to find that move, but it doesn't mean you can only find that move by doing that reasoning. You could have found that move just by randomly picking one, it's not very probably but it's possible. AIs just try to maximize such probability of picking a good move, meanwhile we try to find a reason a move is good. IMO it doesn't make sense to try to fit the way AI do this into our mental model, since the middle goal is fundamentally different.
No, WEI has already been abandoned and removed again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Environment_Integrity
They’re still different careers, not “levels” or whatever.

A phd scientist may not be a good fit for an engineering job. Their degree doesn’t matter.

An phd-having engineer might not be a good fit for a research job either… because it’s a different job.
people in alignment with each other is agreement.

a language model in alignment is control.

the model does not need to be aligned with the desires of people. just person. it could be people, but getting alignment with people is…
but they can't offer the whole "we are doing this for the benefit of humanity" lark

will researchers that were lured into OpenAI under this pretense jump ship to explictly work on extending microsoft's tendrils into more of people's lives?

(essentially the opposite of "benefit humanity")

no doubt some will
I think believers wouldn't be offended, they want you to use the bible as an instruction manual.
Great opportunity to make Karpathy the CEO
That's not true, Capital would still accumulate returns higher than the cost of inventory plus wages, the return would just be the same 'everywhere', and you'd have a perfect market alpha for all stocks, whether it be 1, 2, 5, or 10%. Even perfectly rational markets do not establish socialism overnight. Now maybe you could argue under a Marxist lens that exploitation would be more 'visible', causing socialism to arrive out of social rebellion faster, but that's really besides the point.

What would cease to exist would simply be speculation and arbitrage. Since all prices are perfect, you simply wouldn't be able to make more (or even less, for that matter) money than the return on capital everyone gets by buying and selling shares quickly.
the AGI firing its boss as the first action would be :chefskiss:
I'm willing to pay, but what they're asking is too much, given that it's per account (FB and IG accounts are apparently not the same account). It seems very intentional, too. Even the way the in-app texts are constructed, it seems they really don't want me to pay.
If there aren't guidelines thats where the problem lies. Management should be all over this. One size fits all. "Unlimited" is a nonsense term but shouldn't be taken literally and abuse needs to be called out.
tried to play high stakes with sharks, got eaten alive by sharks.

played stupid games, won stupid prizes.

too bad since the guy's right, AI is so much more than fantastic business opportunity.
Are there special circumstances with the openAI board? For a normal company the board is supposed to represent the interests of investors. If investors ask for him back the board should comply. Who's interests are the OpenAI board representing?
What? Isn't him that he wants Sama out because 'Muh humanity advancement '?
Well, it's still as free as it used to be since the subscription model is opt-in
Agreed. I like your adjectives of lethargic and sluggish. I have read all the responses to you and a few others who made a similar observation. I remain unconvinced about what is so essential about Sam Altman to OpenAI. I just don't get it.
I'm worried....I really don't like the idea of some council artificially "slowing down" progress while we on the outside wait for them to bestow fire on us like Prometheus. If AGI can fulfill even a fraction of the economic promise it has, then they will inevitably just use behind the scenes. It was better when it was being developed out front
> You… can't change the env from outside the process…

Not with that attitude you can't.

(OK, without the joke: you can do this with an interactive debugger. But I think OP just meant "change it in the container and then restart the child process")
How weird! Perhaps a coup within a coup?
What the hell?

So far, I underestood the chaos as a matter of principle - yes it was messy but necessary to fix the company culture that Ilya's camp envisioned.

If you're going to make a move, at least stand by it. This tweet somehow makes the context of the situation 10x worse.
But in Vegas at least blasting adverts is sort of the motto of the city. There it fits in I'd argue.
They acquired two of the founders least responsible for the actual tech. They made a huge bet on OpenAI to produce the tech and that relationship is going down the drain. Watch the market today, the next week, the next month, the next six months and that will tell you what I say: this is a disaster for MS and they damn well know it.
but isn't it a short walk from stratford tube/train station, which has DLR, jubilee, mainline and lizzy line?
Anyone here that has worked with a non-profit can recognize the scenario of boards operating untethered by the sometimes more relatable profit motive.

I think what remains to be seen is who is on the right side of history. The real loser here is probably ethical AI. I know this won’t be a popular opinion around here, but it’s clear to me that with computing and AI, we may be in an echo of the Industrial Revolution where the profit motive of the 19th century led to deep human injustices like child labor and unsafe and inhumane working conditions.

Except of course that AI could have even more impact - both positive and negative, in the same way socmed has.
Saying you won’t watch an interview because you dislike the host, when the subject is about the interviewee, shows a strong tendency to police thought and ignore anything that contradicts your prior beliefs.
This is too bizarre. I can’t. Impossible even.
I will admit I haven’t seen an OAI contract, but have seen articles and multiple Levels.fyi posts for about $600k equity/year (worth $0 right now obviously)

So any idea how that translates into the profit sharing? They have no profit right now. Curious how employees get to that number
I think the only edge cases are for executives of companies, and even then it's pretty limited, but I imagine this could be one of the examples. IANAL though - it's just from what I've seen discussed elsewhere.

https://www.ottingerlaw.com/blog/executives-should-not-ignor...

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...