skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Yeah, for the whole my career in tech, except the first year I had such feeling. Don't want to do it but couldn't leave this golden cage of enterprise bulshit development.
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Technically still a multipass encoding if you have to manually launch the encoder multiple times with different parameters.
Customer service/support. Low-level legal services. Copywriting. Commercial music composition. Commercial illustration production. Junior-level software development.
(1) You are right, and that is why we should be much more cautious with technology.

(2) AI is unique in the sense that it has a much wider range and acts much faster. Therefore, it is much more dangerous, similar to how both salt and sodium cyanide are dangerous but the latter is much worse. You need to think in terms of the magnitude of the effect, not just its qualitative nature.
> layoff announcements from U.S.-based employers reached more than 80,000 in May — a 20% jump from the prior month and nearly four times the level for the same month last year. Of those cuts, AI was responsible for 3,900, or roughly 5% of all jobs lost

> The job cuts come as businesses waste no time adopting advanced AI technology to automate a range of tasks — including creative work, such as writing, as well as administrative and clerical work.

Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ai-job-losses-artificial-intell...
Thinking this is clearly a big win for MSFT is like thinking it's easy to catch lightning in a bottle twice.

There's been a lot of uncertainty created.

It's interesting that others see so much "win" certainty.
And now they are syncing the fork lmao
So we have OpenAI, Microsoft, a whole bunch of capital, and a few "rock stars" moving. And it's these people holding the keys to the AI kingdom where they go to work to achieve AGI.

Finally they got rid of this pesky idea of "safety". We're back in "break things" mode.

Does nobody recognize the stakes here? AGI, which soon would accelerate into something far more capable, ends civilization. I'm not saying it would kill us, I'm saying it makes us cognitively obsolete and all meaning is lost.

AI Safety isn't a micro bias in the training set. It's existential at planetary scale. Yet we let a bunch of cowboys just go "let's see what happens" with zero meaningful regulation in sight. And we applaud them.

I know AGI isn't here yet. I know Microsoft would not allow for zero safety. I'm just saying that on the road to AGI, about two dozen people are deciding on our collective faith. With as ultimate chief the guy behind shit coin "world coin".
Actually, not often, but that happened. It was mostly criticism of the wrong doing or nothing doing..

Are you sure it's all caused by the negative talkings in front of you? I think you just can have a correlation drew out of here, but not the causation. As psychic disorders are either a result of shocks and bad experience, like mistreatment or abuse in early ages OR they're genetically preprogrammed to occure, like two negative people (with their different brain chemistry) making a child (with their genetics 50/50 + some randoms).

Either it's the first one or the second - preposition is laid.

There are quite a lot people with mental disorders like depression and fears and compulsive behavior. Is it all because of bad talking? I don't think so. It's all together. And the social circle and the people in there matter too at certain point matter a lot for the mental health ..

You have to see success and advance, to accept and love yourself, you have to complete things so you can have positive experiences. This will give you self esteem and awareness - and that will change your brain and self thinking. Try to do a lot of sports - if you see your muscles grow, you will see success :)

Get professional help to assist you and explain your condition. Don't rely on one doc's knowledge, because there are a lot of people doing that work - but some of them should play in movies (better actors than doctors)
This. I have never owned a Facebook account, a fact I am glad about.
I have not seen any of the employee contracts so this is purely an educated guess which might be entirely wrong. There is a chart from Fortune[1] that spells out how the profit caps work. I have not looked at any of the documents myself so I am interpreting only what I have consumed. My guess is that the employee equity/contracts spell out the cap structure so perhaps the equity value is based off those caps. Assuming the profit cap for employees is correct I would assume you could not value any "equity" based off the last raise value. At best you could perhaps value the max cap available for those shares.

[1] https://fortune.com/2023/01/11/structure-openai-investment-m...
Sama just triple hearts this tweet. No longer able to disentangle the mess
And even if it is right I am willing to take it.
I'm waiting for the OpenAI movie! :-)
Isn't it true that you can kinda redirect or "punch" sharks in the nose to get them to fuck off?
I completely agree. I've worked at three places with unlimited PTO and none of them do. I think the moment you set that expectation the illusion of being unlimited goes away.
Not a fork if you can't access whatever was prior before fork. This is a bifurcation. A new firecracker instance.
Seems more Mandela Effect than scientific misunderstanding.
Indeed, and these people should be able to do things that are useful, not just for themselves, but because interacting with humans to get these things is much better for society than EVERYONE interacting with a damn computer!
C is not supposed to be close to "the metal" unless that's a single-core unified-memory processor. It's supposed to be maximally portable while retaining reasonable performance, and it does that very well.
Drama continues.

I think he might regret publishing this a wee bit early :)
Yes, if you can’t make your business model work while following the law, you should shut down.
A bit culty but am I to interpret this as, “if I post that the people are important to this company, I am going to resign?”
by 'people' they mean the people whose writing and code and art they scraped without consent, right?
I can't believe I'm playing devil's advocate here because I'm generally a skeptical / pessimistic person, but what?

The world we are headed into, accelerated by huge leaps in technology like AI, will be a sorry, pathetic, unforgiving world, that amplifies suffering and nullifies humanity.

Is that what has happened so far in your life? Technology has messed it up for you ?
In the West you can stop pretty much any construction be releasing a rabbit family on the site and then sending a picture of them to the media. It will block construction for years until they decide where to relocate them.
> This is the sort of thing where if it were a subplot in a book I’d say the writing is bad.

Absolutely, closes the book this sort of stuff doesn't happen in real life.
It's actually surprisingly unknown that throughout the war there was a lot of cat and mouse games over electronic navigation aides for bombers (the so-called "Battle of the beams").

It wasn't until those beams and later air to ground radar (H2S, allegedly named as such because it "stunk" that no one else had done it already) that the truly destructive strategic bombing came about.
YouTube premium allows watching content without ads for a similar price. It's unlikely that they actually stop Google trackers for youtube premium users though so you pay and get no privacy benefit.

Assuming that a different content medium, Facebook actually implements a subscription that removes ads and trackers, that would be a win, wouldn't it?
Twitter/X enters the chat. I've deleted all social apps from my phone except Facebook, and the only reason I use that is to share photos with elderly relatives.

At least I don't get unsolicited racism and gore in my Facebook feed. Twitter on the other hand has been so utterly awful over the last two months that it finally pushed me to delete it everywhere. I don't go looking for that kind of stuff, yet somehow the Algorithm promotes it.
You can't be an innocent bystander on a board of 6 when you vote to oust 2 of them... The math doesn't work.

That's ignoring the fact that every outlet has unanimously pointed at Ilya being the driving force behind the coup.

Honestly, pretty pathetic. If this was truly about convictions, he could at least stand by them for longer than a weekend.
> I have to make THE MOVIE!

- Ross Scott
why are you calling setenv in threads?
> They acquired two of the founders least responsible for the actual tech

Microsoft also “has a perpetual license to all OpenAI IP (short of artificial general intelligence), including source code and model weights.”

If you’re a scientist, OpenAI is a fine place to be, though less differentiated than before. If you’re an engineer more interested in money and don’t want the risk of a start-up, Microsoft seems the obvious path forward.
Hi. Many countries, including Australia, have locked up the majority of guns....and it worked. Many countries have sane gun laws. Just because the U.S. cannot do it, doesn't mean it can't work.
> reliable operations and support is something I trust them more than most others

With a poor security track record [0], miserable support for office 365 products and lack of transparency on issues in general, I doubt this is something to look forward to with Microsoft.

[0] https://www.wyden.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/wyden_letter_to_c...
This is a shitshow. I don’t have anything above a Reddit level comment. I think Mike Judge is writing this episode.
This will be a shit Netflix movie in a few years. Not one you'd watch, but you might read the plot on wikipedia and then feel relieved you didn't waste 100 mins of your life actually watching it.
My point is that in the big picture ethics don't even matter, companies become something that transcend the individuals. Almost like algorithms that just happen to be implemented by humans (and exceedingly machines). There are no "they".
This is starting to look very staged. An elegant way to get out of the non-profit deadlock.

Looks to me like a commercial gpt-5 level model will be released at msft sooner than later.
> AI is just as disrupting as creating biological or chemical weapons, and perhaps even worse.

Perhaps? You had death by paperclip optimiser right there in my comment :P

> And it would horrible if AI could make us immortal. We should die...

Samuel Johnson tires of London, visits an undisclosed location somewhere near Zürich.
Wonder what if TikTok and Twitter were around the time Steve Jobs was fired...
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How does this apply to "regular" (non-MS patients) people?
You’ve nailed it. The excitement is going to be short lived imo
Not the original poster, but you have it more or less correct. An order of magnitude is 10X. Orders of magnitude just refers to “at least 100X.” Colloquially, orders of magnitude just means “significantly more/less.”
Yeah, just like reuters mentioned

"The OpenAI for-profit subsidiary was about to conduct a secondary at a $80 billion+ valuation. These 'Profit Participation Units' were going to be worth $10 million+ for key employees. Suffice it to say this is not going to happen now," chip industry newsletter SemiAnalysis said."

Insane self own by OpenAI
Money and power is still not a satisfying explanation. If everything had gone according to plan, how would be have ended up with more money and power?
Yes, the ideal is when most jobs are genuinely automated we can finally afford UBI.
ilyasut 'regret': https://archive.is/2caSD

sama 'hearts': https://archive.is/OSLRM

Think the reconciliation is ON
It means that those 'organisations' can never scale, and therefore make the titanic impacts on society they hoped to have.

No investors will touch these non-profits with a 10 foot pole now. An unaccountable board that can lead the majority of the company and investors to revolt is radioactive for investors.

It proves that the shares=votes, standard corporate structure is the only way to organize mega scale organizations.

OpenAI will keep its goals, but it'll simply accomplish nothing. It'll probably devolve into some niche lab with no resources or GPUs to do anything significant.
I'm exactly the same. I can't understand how one can confuse the two...
The regret of losing your CEO to a company with essentially unlimited funding and compute.
Yes, low volume pre market moves on the back of a nonstop news flow always predict how they end up
Because we don't like white collar people losing their jobs. Blue collar on the other hand deserve what's coming to them, as they didn't prepare themselves for what the future brings.

/s
I would never argue that you CAN'T do something creative with it. The problem is not even this single tool itself, but the greater amalgamation of all AI tools that arise from the general soceital phenomenon of using AI.
I too would be salty to see people who didn't fork over $120k to have professors dispense freely available information be successful.
State-side counterintelligence must stop meddling in AI startups in such blatant ways, it's simply too inefficient, and at times when we most need transparency in the industry...
It's depressing how few people are able to not look at the internet and turn off their phone.

There's no obligation to read things about yourself.

If you did what you thought was right, stand by it and take the heat.

Disconnect. Go to work. Do the work. Read a book or watch some TV after work. Go to bed. Wait a few weeks. $&#@ the world.

(Also, log out of Twitter and get your friend to change your password)
OAI will still modulate the pace of actual model development though
That's the wrong reason to mourn Bachman's Warbler. I suspect you're a nice person but your post completely misses the beauty and the tragedy of these species, instead focusing on a non-existent advantage to humans they might represent. That's the big mistake of the last decade: conservation and environmentalism are not about making the planet more beneficial for humans. There's plenty of genomes around for your transgenics, don't worry. Our duty and mission is to prevent habitat loss and the extinctions it causes.
The OSS CAD Suite [0] is a good open-source toolchain for this stuff. You can then write hardware designs in the SytemVerilog language (VSCode has some plugins, I believe, but I've just been using a basic text editor) and use the build toolchain to compile ("synthesize") and program e.g. an FPGA with your designs.

(FWIW, I've only just taken a class on Verilog this past Spring, but we used oss-cad-suite and I found it pretty straightforward to use. The bundled version of Verilator had some issues on my Mac though, so I had to compile my own copy of Verilator.)

[0] https://github.com/YosysHQ/oss-cad-suite-build/
The Earth is not a sphere though, it's an approximate ellipsoid :). Can't get pedantic without being pedantic about it ;)
I only notice that I get 40 messages / 3 hours instead of usual 50 massages / 3 hours
it also is removing the reliance that people have on each other.

On the other hand access to information has given me more independence, and this hasn't been a bad thing. I do rely less on others, like my parents, but I still love them and spend more time having fun with them rather than relying on them.

I do understand what you mean, it just doesn't like up as all negative to me.

I also think open source AI will destroy any feudalistic society. These companies like MS are going to have a problem when their own technology starts to destroy their value add.

Look ad Adobe and some of the open source video and graphis editing AI software, there goes one fiefdom.
Because it would be to expensive to change all the signs, logos - the whole corporate identity.

Also, it would be a strange move to call the company ClosedAI
> Single threaded operations are just fine.

Sort of. https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/g...:

“The returned string pointer might be invalidated or the string content might be overwritten by a subsequent call to getenv()”

There’s little you can do with a broken API, so Linux has that ‘feature’, too. https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/getenv.3.html:

“The string pointed to by the return value of getenv() may be statically allocated, and can be modified by a subsequent call to getenv(), putenv(3), setenv(3), or unsetenv(3).”

FreeBSD chooses to leak memory, instead. https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?getenv(3):

“Successive calls to setenv() that assign a larger-sized value than any previous value to the same name will result in a memory leak. The FreeBSD semantics for this function (namely, that the contents of value are copied and that old values remain accessible indefinitely) make this bug unavoidable”
Possibly because some library they are using calls getenv.
Serious psychological denial here. The board isn't some anonymous institution that somehow tricked and pulled him into this situation.

Come on Ilya, step up and own it, as well as the consequences. Don't be a weasel.
It's pretty simple, isn't it? He made a move. It went bad. Now he's trying to dodge the blast. He just doesn't understand that if he just shut the fuck up, after everything else that's gone on (seriously, 2 interim CEOs in 2 days?), nobody would be talking about him today.

The truth is, this is about the only thing about the whole clown show that makes any sense right now.
Using a conda environment should be able to get around that I believe
The real question is - aren't we (humans) just a (very sophisticated) autocomplete with lookahead?
Of course he deeply regrets it, but it's a little late for that now.

The good news as anyone who has used twitch over the years will tell him is that with Emmett Shear at the helm, he's not going to be frightened by the speed that OpenAI rolls out new features any more.
OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns
Okay that's interesting.
This all seems very high school
I'm starting to think that Christmas came early for Microsoft. What looked like a terrible situation surrounding their $10bn investment turned into a hire of key players in the area, and OpenAI might even need to go so far as to get acquired my Microsoft to survive.

(My assumption being that given the absolute chaos displayed over the past 72 hours, interest in building something with OpenAI ChatGPT could have plummeted, as opposed to, say, building something with Azure OpenAI, or Claude 2.)
Software engineering for sure. Lots of SV types have a very distorted view of what the average programmer not in a high prestige silicon valley company does. Especially contractors and outsourcing firms and the like? Yeah not great for them. Also analyst type roles and data science type roles, since the level of reasoning plus the ability to parse structured data and write code is pretty much there. Medical scribes are already being automated, voice to text plus context aware parsing. I also think areas of law like patent law (writing provisionals etc) are probably in a situation where the tech is already better than humans at writing claims that are not going to conflict with prior art and the like, though there'll be legal barriers there to adoption. But a lot of the legal staff involved might be replaced even if the lawyers and agents are not. Anyone who writes review papers/research summaries like market reports without actively doing non-internet research like interviewing people are going to struggle against AI written reviews that can just pull from more information than humanly possible to parse. Accounting, preparing financial statements, etc where "creativity" is not necessary a good thing also, though again regulations might stop that. And obviously in healthcare, doctors like radiologists and surgeons etc which we've been talking about as a possibility for a long time but looks more possible than ever now.

Also there's areas where it's quickly becoming a required skill set, so it's not that it's replacing people but that the people there are getting their skills obsoleted. All the molecular biologists I know that used to joke about how they picked biology since they suck with computers and hate excel are at a high risk of getting left behind right now, especially with how steep the improvement's been with protein design models like RFDiffusion. Though by latest rumors it looks like the vast vast majority of biologists involved in protein work have already started using tools like alphafold and esmfold so it does look like people are adapting.
people capable of violence don't need to be smart, because they're capable of violence.

the point is, you cant rely on a scenario where society breaks down, that survivors will act more rational then than they do now.
They aren't referring to the Stratford area in general as underdeveloped but rather to the specific plot of land, I suppose.
This tweet achieves absolutely nothing except give the impression of a weak leadership and that firing Sam Altman was done on a whim.
learn to code.
> This is, quite obviously, a phenomenal outcome for Microsoft.

I don't know whether that's true, nor do I know went on, but it seems interesting to consider...

If OpenAI were government, and the history involved awarding a contract, or administering regulations, we have the concept of a revolving door.
Based on credits in Gpt3 and 4 papers, I think the team that follows Sam and Greg are the main drivers of the tech. Ilya is an advisor more or less.
I think technology has messed up a lot of lives. Sure, we've got good healthcare and resources in the first-world, but smaller communities are eroding to the global force of technology.

Don't bully people into not expressing critical thought by emphasizing that they have their basic physical needs met. We should be critical of society, even if on the surface it seems pretty good.

We also have more advanced psychological needs such as the need to depend on others, and that is what is at stake here.
He is interim, most likely there to pick up the pieces with at least some kind of a carte blanche.
The last point is indeed true. It's quite mind-boggling to me.
Ask HN: Founders, are you afraid of staying with OpenAI after what happened?
If you're unaware:

1. Board fired the CEO and another board member overnight with zero explanation.

2. 24 hours later the board asked him to return (?) and negotiations started.

3. Negotiations fell through and now the outed CEO is at Microsoft.

---

How is your company reacting to this news? What once felt like a rock-solid rocketship now feels like a house of cards to me. I'm just curious how you guys are thinking about this.

Are you looking at alternatives? If so, which ones.
https://archive.is/RiAqC
For-profit vs. non-profit is an increasingly meaningless distinction in today's business/legal environment. It seems like more of a marketing ploy than anything else. For example, one can set up a 'socially responsible do-gooder' non-profit with the left hand, and a for-profit corporation with the right hand, and then funnel all the money that goes into the non-profit into the for-profit by making that the sole supplier to the non-profit, thus avoiding many taxes and generating robust profits. These schemes are legion - there are hundreds of examples if you go looking.

The real issue with LLMs is open-source vs. proprietary.
Tracking and selling my shit is not a valuable service in my eyes. And even if they did, I just can't trust them anyway.
Do we need a giant centralized video service? Wouldn't it be better to have smaller independent services which each can set their own moderation policies?