skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I had that, for years. That's not too say that I hated my job and was suffering. But it was stressful and I had collected to many unpaid extra responsibilities over years in a startup. But my number one goal was paying off my mortgage, becoming debt free and saving a nest egg, so I didn't really think about whether or not I really loved my job.

I got to my goal through a combination of good luck, hard work and other life choices (eg we have no kids, no car and are frugal for co² emission reduction). I also predicted the house prices crash of 2008 (not the whole thing, but definitely within my country) and waited for years while my friends bought vault overpriced properties way out of town. Then I watched the house prices tumble to decades low prices before grabbing an absolute bargain. That was one part of the luck. The other was the startup being acquired, but I got fucked on the stock, so it only just about covered my remaining debt. So I kept working and building a nest egg.

I did switch companies after a while and I spend another 2 years helping to build another startup. But one stressful day in the middle of a fundamental disagreement with my CTO, I just blurted out "I'm sorry, but think I quit!" I talked it through over the weekend with my wife, and confirmed it on the Monday.

After 20 years of unbroken employment I took 6 months off. I had all these plans for what I'd do (mostly tech side projects that I didn't have time for) but only achieved 10% of it because I was having so much fun doing DIY, gardening, running...

Up to that point in my life I was soooo tech focused. But after realizing that I could "insta-quit" at any time and do zero tech, I did worry that I had broken myself. But strangely enough I found myself working with another startup and absolutely loving it.

I realized that I need other people to need my expertise. Even though I love what I do, I find that I can't do it simply for myself. Work is a necessary "evil" that allows me to have my tech hobby. I just approach it differently now. I'm careful about who I work with and what they're building. Oh, and I also work 3.5 days a week now, so no more burnout.
"These are nice pools, but I wonder how power efficient these old buildings are..."

Because of the windows? Probably they have triple-paned windows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing
The shovels at the loading face are very often electric and have been in a number of mines since the 70s at least - they move from face to face once or twice a day on caterpiller tracks and drag fat cables behind that get protected with "drive over" plates for light vehicles.

It's possible that trucks being loaded and trucks queuing to be loaded could upload their excess into the mine grid and then roll down the hill fully loaded with a 100 tonne of ore and a near empty battery.
Counterpoint: sticks and stones
> My definition of capitalism is the accepted one.

This is an interesting way to lead off your statement that capitalism is the same thing as feudalism.
Ahhh cool, that all makes good sense. :)
I dislike AI ethnics very much, especially under the current context, it feels meaningless. The current GPT4 model only has over regulation problem, not lack of such.
This response does not really address the question in the comments it is attached to.
> is your argument that we should have no intellectual property rights for software at all?

Obviously not. That would require opinion, and sharing opinion is in bad faith. Discussion is merely for talking about how the world is. And as the way the world is, a monopoly needs some kind of moat to emerge. Intellectual property regulation exists to enable such moats.

> It seems odd to single out only this example.

Why? One example is all that is necessary to convey the idea.

But also, it is the only convicted monopolist in that respect that I could think off off the top of my head. Google was recently charged, but not yet convicted, so I could not include them. I am not about to suggest that other companies are monopolies based on my opinion. That, again, would be in bad faith. But, theoretically, the same could apply to other companies. It is not something that needs to be strictly limited to Microsoft.
You're right in the absolute, but the issue here is that YT has a monopoly. So if it gets too easy for them to make people abandon ad blocking like this, what stops them from rising their prices every year ?

I see this as a nice "balance" that reminds them (if enough people don't cave in) that their monopoly is not giving them a free rein to do anything they want.
You’re a genius.

Of course, no one wants a big connector in their cell phone, so we’ll have to make a mini C. And then a micro C. And then they’ll make USB D to try to simplify all of these competing standards.

That said the form factor of type C is a little too small to be wieldy to me.
They’ve moved past science even. There’s a really good YouTube video of Richard Dawkins talking about what became of the atheist movement of the 2000s. Basically, they abandoned science in favor of “social justice.”
Still we live with power sockets and lamp sockets that hark back to Edison times, more than a century ago, and live relatively happily. Backwards compatibility with millions (and hundreds of millions) of existing devices is a powerful force.

While I'm in favor of USB-C connector eventually replacing USB-A connector completely, I think it's best done gradually, with new devices still offering the occasional USB-A socket for quite some time. Remember how slowly PS/2 ports disappeared from PCs which also featured USB sockets next to them, or how PCI and PCIe coexisted for many years on PC motherboards.
This sounds like something I don't want to test the hard way.
The only things you could do to make them money are paying for it, clicking on ads, or working there. Looking at ads without clicking costs them.
Ask HN: Is there something like product hunt for open source?
The actual Product Hunt open source topic seems to be mostly/all not open source: https://www.producthunt.com/topics/open-source. It might be cool to find new open source projects (or existing ones with major releases) that are looking for new contributors or users.
Why group the two women together?

Not that I think either are competent
I know the repair place I worked at sees a lot of broken USB-C ports. Way more than they ever had A. They hate the new, smaller ports because they're usually built very flimsily unless it's Apple.
Yes. For start I worry that if I will use YouTube while logged then it will increase risk of my mail account being randomly banned by Google. I already got "your account is temporarily disabled" once after I used "import mail filters" feature.

Also, I do not want to risk accidentally sharing exact videos I watch, while logged in.

Also, I anyway need to download videos as browser player lags while VLC does not.
Been enjoying
https://grayjay.app/
I think you under estimated the cost of your solution, the cost must not excess the profit from the ad.

You need hard work on the encoder to do that (at least to segment video, because re-encoding dynamically is obviously not an option). Not profitable for Google.
of course you can pay, but where's the fun in that.. in a hacker's mind hacking youtube is time well spent.
Tell me you aren't in an LLM project without telling me.

Data and modeling is so much than just coding. I would wish it is like that, but it is not. The fact it renders this much similarity to alchemy is funny, but unfortunate.
A common model is to have a free tier subsidized by the premium users. The free users still provide value to the company, because they're all prospective premium users.
They did not realize firing Altman would pose an existential risk.

Then they found out it did
Charles Stress has an excellent one Accelerando

https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/acceler...

See also this website for plenty SF stories in the public domain
https://www.feedbooks.com/publicdomain/browse/top?cat=FBFIC0...

Unfortunately the language filter doesn't seem to work correctly anymore
Yes. The employment of which is also euphemistically known as a "kinetic military action".
Thanks Mike,

Yes, I am aware of this trial. The story of IVO’s owner, Richard Mansell is very inspiring. He is an engineer, not a scientist, he just wanted to do something with tools he knows. What is important is not that it might work or not, it is that these guys tried something in real life to clear the academic debate.

Frankly, I find the people who designed this trial to be amazing.
Faster and more error-prone (and you can customize an app as well, so that's a wash)
When they first started this, a month ago (or so?) I just right-clicked and used block element with uBlock Origin to block the popup and the div element that covered the page to dim it.

I've not seen it since. Only side effect is videos sometimes pause right as they start. I assume because it stops the video and shows the pop up. I can just resume immediately though.
I have been hovering the buy button for a while now, the only thing that's keeping me to buy yet is that I really like Extralight/Thin fonts. I hope they add such a version.
How does firing Altman benefit all humanity?
The only options here are

1. deal with ads,

2. pay to support the service without ads,

3. use adblocking and be a free rider off people doing #1, or

4. expect web services to be given to you as an act of charity

You and I are both doing #3, but let's not pretend it's some act of noble civil disobedience. It is good for us that others are subjected to ads, as it allows us to get useful services for free without having to be.
Famously something you could learn in a weekend. It allowed you to start being productive right away, even if you were writing terrible insecure code!
It is rather less than 1 usd even on Lcsc where everyone can buy it
My USB C connector failed on my Dell 5520 about 2 or 3 years in. None of the USB-A ports have failed yet, and that computer is pushing 6 years old now.

USB C is, in my experience, much more sensitive than USB-A to real-world usage.
For someone who doesn't know spa culture, why is it disgusting to have clothes on? Like a bikini or swimming shorts.
If they had a premium version for something like a third of the prince I would gladly pay for it. I don't care about Youtube music, offline mode or background playing. I just want to get rid of the ads - and their current model doesn't offer anything that does only that for less money.
> ...languages which do not have a reputation of being stable, easy to learn, easy to read and understand, compile quickly, etc.

Kotlin is definitely the odd man out in that list.
The article refers to Tech Twitter, and that’s where the sexism is.

People on Twitter are making degrading memes of her and posting weird, creepy, harassing comments like this:
“Why does Helen Toner have shelf tits” https://x.com/smolfeelshaver/status/1726073304136450511?s=46

Search for “Helen Toner” on Twitter and you will see she is being singled out for bullying by a bunch of weird creepy white dudes who I guess apparently work in tech.

> I think the AI safety community is a little early and notoriety therein probably isn’t sufficient to qualify somebody to direct an $80 bn company.

Normally you’d be right. In the specific case of OpenAI, however, their charter requires safety to be the number one priority of their directors, higher than making money or providing stable employment or anything else that a large company normally prioritizes. This is from OpenAI’s site:

“each director must perform their fiduciary duties in furtherance of its mission—safe AGI that is broadly beneficial” https://openai.com/our-structure
An AI that would be like an Illustrated Primer or the AIs from Fire Upon Deep is the dream from which we are currently far, doubly so for open source models. I wouldn't trust one with a sauerkraut recipe, let alone the instructions for a doomsday device. For the forseeable future, models cannot be relied upon without external resources to augment them. Yet even augmented with references, it's still proving to be a bigger challenge than expected to get reliable results.
Sadly, due to some scientists no longer including ethics in their research, by fudging data to keep their funding, siding with corporate interests, and showing their elitism by treating their word for gospel as if they're infallible.
D'oh, thank you. I thought I knew the word and didn't double check.
Services and infrastructure can and must grow as well.

It’s one thing if you disbelieve your government is prepared to solve these problems, but the difficulties of managing a growing population are neither novel nor intractable

> It’s a disaster in the making, in my opinion as a long time resident.

Unaffordable housing is already a disaster.
Just a matter of time before g embeds ads in videos. What’s next, ai again?
Or maybe they didn’t want to exist under Sam Altman?
Clearly their brains are monitored for speech intention and there's a small speaker in their collars that synthesises what they are trying to say.
Actual therapy is required for this, it's a very serious issue.
I hate to be a GNU-Linux pedant, but isn't it GNU that's American, while Linux (the kernel) is European?
Bad analogies are like bananas in a swordfight.

As a “petrolhead” this instantly triggered me: most cars won’t redline at 100mph, actually they won’t even break a sweat (at like 2.5krpm, when redline starts at 5-8krpm depending on engine type and model). Redlining is _accelerating_ too fast, not _driving_ (this means you cannot “redline” indefinitely long, only for short bursts, even if you are a racing or overly aggressive driver).
A tiny bit misleading really: it's only the "first" and "groundbreaking" to Troll airfield, not Antarctica as a whole.

An A340 which is longer, wider and heavier than the 787-9 has been flying down for at least two years now, but to a different airstrip.

The A340 can carry more passengers than the 787-9, and ironically the 787-9 in two-class configuration can only actually seat 290 people.
That's probably the most illuminating article on the whole situation I've seen, and it's just because it includes one key fact.

The board went from 10 people to 6 in the span of a year. That explains absolutely everything that happened at OpenAI.

Why couldn't we get that little tidbit from a media publication?
He said: "Once he spent an hour pair-programming with me on a difficult issue."
I quoted what is "pair programming" for you (and the 2 others): "One, the driver, writes code while the other, the observer or navigator reviews each line of code as it is typed in. The two programmers switch roles frequently."
I'm not sure what you are referring to with "AI safety community". Her background isn't exactly a strong "AI safety" either before joining the board if you read her CV. I don't see there sexism asking these questions.
To me it seems that the author didn’t really understand Hinton’s argument. Nothing he’s arguing goes against it.
OpenAI can just as easily turn the switch and cut off access to gpt models. OpenAI can get compute anywhere, while Microsoft can only get GPT4 at OpenAI.
Let's hope they'll return!
They want you dumb and entertained by circuses.
I’m not trivializing risks. I’m characterizing output. These systems aren’t theoretical anymore. They’re used by hundreds of millions of people daily in one form or another.

What are these teams accomplishing? Give me a concrete example of a harm prevented. “Pen is mightier than the sword” is an aphorism.
Fine. Even so, Greg is brilliant and if anyone can still do both, it’s him.
His recent tweet, 'I love the openai team so much,' followed by hundreds of retweets with a heart emoji from OpenAI staff, makes me believe that he will return back.
> Same as it with Google, which won because they invested massively into edge nodes, winning the ping race (fastest results), not the best results.

What in the world are you talking about? Internet search? I remember Inktomi. Basch's excuses otherwise, Google won because PageRank produced so much better results it wasn't even close.
Yeah that’s not true in Berlin. There are regular crashes where people race through the city and end up killing people.
People who advocate for this sort of thing shouldn't be allowed to drive and their car shouldn't let them.
But alignment is always going to rely on cooperation of users though? What benefit does the delay offer other than the direct one of a delay?
It’s been 20 years of well-intended governmental initiatives to reinvent the text editor and waste millions of taxpayer money.

What’s the end goal? What are we trying to achieve here?
You're not really answering the question here.

Parent's point is that GPT-4 is better because they invested more money (was that ~$60M?) in training infrastructure, not because their core logic is more advanced.

I'm not arguing for one or the other, just restating parent's point.
Is up again. Man, you scared me. :-(
One thing became apparent from this drama. The goal of any person should not be collective good but a cult. It should rather be about establishing a religious gathering of the people and directing them to a place where you can print infinite money. Oh while you are making the cult or religion or whatever make sure you feed the bunch. This way everything and everyone will support you as you are the guiding force of that religion.

As Godel said, you can't completely understand the system while you are part of the system. So this is my take from someone detached from the VC culture in general.

Money is King. Who brings money is the true king. From this perspective, there is no significant difference between drug cartels (for ex. weed) and entrepreneurs. They both care about the people around them and can bring money. The only difference is how the story was framed. Now that cannabis is legal in some parts, what difference does it make? You can be a weed farmer/entrepreneur.
Duties to not dilute them or specifically target them, but majority can absolutely make decisions about executives even if those decisions are perceived as harmful.
Possible but the board and chief scientist will need to go.
It's sad when this happens, but I've lived in various random places in England over the last 2 decades and one of the first things I do when moving to a new area is find one of these little swimming baths for my evening swim. I have to say, outside of city centers we don't seem to be doing too bad still. I think at least 3 of the 5 I've frequented were Victorian era or at least 100 or so years old.

E: just did a quick search and apparently of the 116 listed bath buildings, most of which were constructed before 1936, only 52 remain operational or are in the process of being operational. So perhaps you're right. Real shame, these places are often so valuable for the community, especially smaller/poorer ones.

(Shout out to Withington baths[1] which was my favourite place in the world back when I was a student)

[1] https://maps.app.goo.gl/Lze2wgCF9QtisdmPA
Even per distance driven the fatality rate is close to twice that of Germany.

My first thought when reading about that accident was "why was it even possible to go 100mph there?".

The infrastructure should prevent speeding as well as penalties and countries which implemented such measures have generally better outcomes.

In that case I would see that intersection turned into a roundabout.

Sometimes more drastic measures are required: in my neighbourhood speed bumps were introduced on a two lane road because people kept overtaking on the intersection there and of course hitting pedestrians this way.
Same here. I've experienced flaky connections with several USB-C ports, and sometimes the port itself gets dislodged. I've had devices RMA'd because of it.

Nowadays I'm very careful when plugging in USB-C, doing my best to not pull on the cable, etc. It's overall a worse UX than with USB-A, and being reversible doesn't make up for it.

Then you have the mess of protocols and standards that use the connector, where I need to use specific cables for specific devices, and I'm never sure which one is which. The term "universal" in USB has completely lost its meaning.
just thoughts, I'm probably wrong:

google got paid a big chunk of money + pseudo anti-monopoly economics + dod stuff

Esentially, THE ad and search company running the worlds top AI would raise too much suspicion once the nudging starts to crawl out of the skin of the early adopters. There's more relevant points on this one but I'm busy, sorry.

The DOD and friends really want to know the people and if google becomes too AI driven, the DoD won't know the people, but versions of them that revealed less because AI gave them more than they asked for on the first or second attempt they phraised their question.

Less content consumed via google means less (ads and other) exposure because AI assistance leads to some useful result quicker, hence the big chunk of money, because there's two sides of a coin.
> Merely being forced to resign would be merciful, I half expect Satya to find some way to have them thrown in prison.

Prison? For what??
I agree with you about AI ethicists (and in general someone whose job is only ethics is usually a grifter) but OpenAI’s safety team was a red team (at least a few months ago), testing its ability to escape boxes by giving it almost the power to. They were the guys who had the famous “watch the AI lie to the Upworker I hired so he’ll do the work” guys.

So the structure matters. Ethicists who produce papers on why ethics matters and the like are kind of like security, compliance, and legal people at your company who can only say no to your feature.

But Google’s Project Zero team is a capable team and produces output that actually help Google and everyone. In a particularly moribund organization, they really stand out.

I think the model is sound. If your safety, security, compliance, and legal teams believe that the only acceptable risk is from a mud ball buried in the ground then you don’t have any of those functions because that’s doable by an EA with an autoresponder. What this effective team does is minimize your risks on this front while allowing you to build your objective.
It's a lot better than that. OpenAI is just very good execution of publicly available ideas / research, with some novelty that is not crucial and can be replicated. Moreover, Altman himself contributed near zero to the AI part itself (even from the POV of the product). So far OpenAI products result more or less spontaneously of what LLMs where capable of. That to say that there are crucial CEOs sometimes, like Jobs was for Apple. CEOs able to shape the product line with their ability to just tell apart outstanding from meh things, but this is not the case.
> From this perspective, there is no significant difference between drug cartels (for ex. weed) and entrepreneurs

You should reconsider being on this site then if you think so little of entrepreneurs.
This news is before that happens: Nov 18, 2023 6:05 p.m.
Given the amount of code involved, perhaps just out of fear the resulting code generation might not be as good? Rather a quick job to write something like that, but the scaling tests take a bit more time.
Yes, it is. To me ads are totally useless. I have never bought anything. It's nothing else than unnecessary distraction. I'm not worried about not paying this monstrously huge company.
The container is easier. Veracrypt container DOS formatted is easier and more portable than GPG.
I'm not saying it is simple in any way, but I do think part of having a competitive edge in, AI at least at this moment, is having access to ML hardware (AKA: Nvidia silicon).

Adding more parameters tends to make the model better. With OpenAI having access to huge capital they can afford 'brute forcing' a better model. AFAIK right now OpenAI has the most compute power, which would partially explain why GPT4 yields better results than most of the competition.

Just having the hardware is not the whole story of course, there is absolutely a lot of innovation and expertise coming from oAI as well.