skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Imagine having advertising in your own home

That's why people continue to use Windows Home and if you want to get pro level of ads in your OS you would use Windows Pro /s
that dirty feeling comes from an unfortunate engineering, first-principles approach to sales. take the cost to make the product, mark it up a reasonable percentage, and that's the price to charge. any deviation from that is a scam. problem is, that's not how it works at all.
Thanks for replying. Yeah that seems like a decent model -- it starts as a passion project, then acquires users, then the dev stops having as much fun and starts feeling a sense of responsibility.

One solution is to announce that you're abandoning the project and suggest that its users make a plan to fork it / take over maintenance. Instead of adding a social norm that open source devs should get paid, we could drop the norm that open source devs should feel obligated to maintain projects for free. Maybe every README could have info about the primary maintainers and how enthusiastic they think they're going to be about the project going forward, so people can make informed technology choices. That way no one complains about a bait and switch.

Another idea is for the dev to respond to issues on Github by saying things like "I can fix this if you pay $X"
>Maybe what's needed is a "for-profit open source" license, where the code is free for anyone to read, but it's illegal to use for commercial purposes without paying. I'm guessing this approach is already being explored?

Nonfree and proprietary licenses have always been an option. The problem is developers want the convenience that FOSS culture provides without actually making the sacrifice of putting end-user rights before their own profit. Coding (specifically web dev) has turned into a money train and FOSS devs want on board.

FOSS licensing is an ethical stance. That ownership of software, (nonfree) copyright and intellectual property is fundamentally immoral, and authorship doesn't grant you privilege over the code you write. And that stance has a cost. If developers want to get paid, get a job writing code and a paycheck, or use a nonfree license. Otherwise, stop being hypocritical. You chose this path.
if they had to pay for open source then they couldn’t afford to pay for commercial software?
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8959

Although I don't think the actual proposed syntax is good.
I'm curious to see what kind of photos they took.

Having so many of these huge lights, blasting out 12KWs each, for 4-5.5 hrs just to get a few photos of a plane sounds a little bit too much, but hey who am I to judge :-)
The buyer is paying the agent in the addition to the sale price.

The buyer is also paying additional taxes for many years afterward on the higher assessed value (as it includes the commission!).
SheepIt Render Farm
And yet it's getting done! It's very impressive work.
The definition of bullshit used here is not the dictionary one. It more closely follows the definition from On Bullshit[0] (also cited in TFA), as content which is truth-irrelevant.

Under the above definition, AIs do always produce bullshit, because their content is always truth-irrelevant.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit
Smartphones are not desktop computers and they behave differently.

That a smartphone comes preloaded with some news app is not unexpected behavior.
That a desktop operating system is not "clean" from first install is absolutely not acceptable.
66.5% of US bankruptcies are caused directly by medical expenses.

https://www.retireguide.com/retirement-planning/risks/medica...
Let’s clarify the difference between hobbyist software and open-source software.
* Requires GPT Plus
In the UK we also have one of the worst systems for buying and selling property which on average takes 3 months or more for a single transaction and everyone can walk away at any point until exchange of contracts for whatever dumb reason.
As a buyer you will spend thousands on legal and survey fees before you even know if there is anything wrong with the property.

Legal fees are more like 2k+ these days (source: buying a house)
In Brazil it is 6%, some agents used to charge even 8% or 10% but the trend is towards 5% (since real estate became expensive here as well in the last 12 years).
Thanks, that's a totally valid point!
It's generally 6% split between two agents, so 3% per agent. Experienced agents often have something like a 60/40 split with their brokerage (such as ReMax). So, that's 0.9% -- let's round up to 1% to be generous.

My home state (Washington) is the 4th-most expensive state in the country. In the Seattle area, a senior software engineer makes about $275k on average. Meanwhile, the average house price in 2022 was $650k. Easy math here - an experienced agent will make $6.5k on a sale in WA. (Yes, it would be higher in Seattle - but real estate doesn't necessarily concentrate in the same way as engineering talent, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.) Thus, an agent would need to be the buying or selling agent in 42 sales per year to make as much as a senior engineer.

Selling agents probably sell ~30 houses a year in a really strong market, so even in peak COVID relocation times, less than a senior software engineer in a similar location.

On the other side of things, when my wife and I bought in the competitive market of 2021, we probably toured about 30 houses. We put offers in on eight of them. Our agent coordinated inspections and was present for all of them. I'd guess they put in, conservatively, 60 hours of work for our house. We paid $670k, so our agent got around $6.7k for those 60 hours of work - around $110/hr, or a lot less than I was making as a senior engineer at Dropbox at the same time (almost twice that).

tl;dr, no, they probably don't earn more per hour than a senior software engineer at a high-paying company, unless the real estate agent also happens to live in San Francisco.
I think about this every single time I read or hear the word ether. "It means an invisible transfer medium. What were they thinking!?"
> so it makes absolutely no sense to me that they can't manage to throw 200 data annotators at their model and make it best-in-class.

these foundation models are trained on trillions of tokens to achieve quality. 200 data annotators with unknown quality issues may be not enough..
Neural compression is an emerging field and already shows some striking compression abilities, especially if the compressor/decompressor includes a large model which amounts to something like a huge pre-existing dictionary on both sides.

Stable Diffusion XL is only about 8 gigabytes and can render a shocking array of different images from very short prompts with very high fidelity.

1gbps might be enough for more than we think.
> OpenAI got to iterate, but maybe Google instantly move 37'd conversational AI?

If you write such speculative theories, I want to do, too. :-)

What if Google already "37'd" OpenAI, but the result is too dangerous to be released to the public, i.e. it takes a huge amount of work to "defuse"/"cripple" their AI for it to be suitable for "public consumption".
> Therefore, markets are regulated to prevent monopolies.

Markets are regulated to enable monopolies. Bell would have never become a monopoly if there wasn't the regulation involved in laying copper and Microsoft would have never become a monopoly if there wasn't intellectual property regulation.
While I appreciate the desire to show off your creation, a "Show NH" that requires people to sign up for a $20/month service isn't all that great from my perspective.
What is the author's definition of "failing" here?
This happens every time Amazon announces something and is a great opportunity to buy on the cheap as Amazon fails a year later.

See online pharmacies, health care, real estate (!), loans.
This demonstration is respectful. It’s funny. It’s obvious parody.

But, the tech can be used to make disrespectful content.

Look forward to: David Attenborough narrates porn.

I don’t know what we can do. Ain’t no easy answers. But do we want courts and $Lawyers deciding what is respectful?
Nobody has ever called me pedantic ;)

I get what you mean and I can see why they are referred to as "shortcuts". I just think it's a deficiency in UI design that leads to such a term. I have used software like Inkscape a lot and using it efficiently is a bit like playing guitar: one hand on the mouse, the other on the keyboard, working together. Discoverability is good (although I think massively overhyped) but a good UI should lead you to discover the most efficient way to do something, not the least efficient.
> but what isn't clear to me is why maintainers don't ignore these people.

There very likely isn't just one reason that applies to all maintainers.

But there are some reasons one can hypothesize that probably apply to some or many maintainers.
It's not just about the stove. It's also about the state of the wood you're burning (humidity mostly). Very dry wood burns much more cleanly than less dry wood.
> Apps that are published by their developers themselves can verify to get a blue checkmark.

OK great. Why don't apps that are published by third parties get a giant red exclamation mark? If you read all the way through this thread, you'll see a very feasible supply chain attack on BitWarden. For FlatHub to have a credible security posture, they need to do something like very clearly identifying third party packaging as "experimental" or "dangerous". This has been a known issue for years, and yet they appear to be taking a "our volunteers are nice people, thanks community" collective shrug.

FWIW the website isn't everything, since a) you can install from the CLI without viewing the website[0], and b) there are third party tools like KDE's Discover which quietly integrate with FlatHub. My father would never understand the difference between FlatHub, Snap, and the Canonical deb repositories, even if I explained 50 times - and yet he's been a happy KDE user for 15 years. How is he supposed to know that he's no longer necessarily accepting properly audited software when he clicks the "update" button?

[0]:

> flatpak install bitwarden
Looking for matches…
Found ref ‘app/com.bitwarden.desktop/x86_64/stable’ in remote ‘flathub’ (system).
Use this ref? [Y/n]: y
Required runtime for com.bitwarden.desktop/x86_64/stable (runtime/org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/23.08) found in remote flathub
Do you want to install it? [Y/n]: y
The 2% is worth it.

It's an expensive, but essential step in Germany.

Because there isn't a default real estate purchase contract, so you need to trust that you'll receive the property. It's like paying a lawyer to mediate an expensive purchase, and they carry some legal risks with it.

They also do the bureaucracy with the government to add your name to the Grundbuch (it's a book from the government about who owns what % of a property), and also clean up the previous debts that it had (they are written there).
> very expensive 10g

For me it's just 2€ more expensive than the standard 1g plan. It's really unfortunate to see how bad internet prices are, especially in the US and other countries with ISP monopolies. The only reason my internet is so relatively cheap is because early on there was a lot of competition in my country.
I think, as often, the truth lies down the middle. SAG/AFTRA and the WGA were right in fighting to not give studios free rein to use AI to own their likeness or replace them in the process. Likewise, people who say using AI tech for lighthearted fun like this is “disrespectful” are just having a kneejerk reaction at this point. I struggle to see a how this is different from say, a song parody.
If you use a small clip of Brad Pitt in a 10 sec ad without his permission, he will probably sue you and win. So I don't think fair use is going to protect you.
With a browser doing everything it can (abstracting graphics acceleration, USB access, etc) the lines get more blurry every day.

Web app? But if it runs applications, and provides access to and manages resources, at what point is it also considered an OS?
One finger per second?
Your Bank of America example is over two years old and no longer valid:

https://www.bankofamerica.com/information/supported-browsers...
Assuming that they burned purely fat for energy, what else could it be? Are you saying that it's not just fat being burned, or that 'burning' the fat is not going from '1' to '0' in terms of weight?
Validating property rights is a fixed-time operation that seems to be one of the basic services a state should offer. I read the parent poster naturally asking why 2% instead of some lower, fixed amount.
The secret environmental cost hiding inside your smart home device
> So in the current iteration, I think LLMs are a shortcutting tool for experts

My take has been that LLMs aren't valuable for me because I'm an expert and writing code is no longer very difficult. And searching for the knowledge when I need it is faster on my own than having a conversation with a computer because true expertise also involves having mastered and streamlined that process.
You would think.

However, stating that LLMs predict text, not facts - and that LLMs don’t “think”, is enough to start a debate.

Yeah the issue is anthropormphization and the “cool” factor of demos, vs actual experience.
That's a state program
But what if you're unable to even get any sort of answer? It's impossible to verify it, as there is nothing. ChatGPT can help you at least arrive at that first step, in those situations.
Here in Portugal it's 5% + VAT 23% so over 6%.
It's like a cartel - they all point blank refuse to negotiate and most insist on exclusivity. Bit of a shock after selling a house for 1% commission in UK.
Imagine fine tuning a personal LORA on the end users data. No privacy headaches but all the personalization.
It's only a pity that things fossilized on 1500 byte packets.

Yeah, we can compensate for that with hardware, but it's ridiculous to do 100G or even 10G in 1500 byte chunks.
No I suspect 3 seconds is often enough. It's not learning how you pronounce each word, it's seeing some pronunciations you use and from that guessing how you would pronounce other things based on how those pronunciations are clustered in its training data. In other words if in that 3 seconds it hears you say y'all it has a pretty good shot at inferring how you say a lot of other things.
Would you mind elaborating on what felt problematic, please? I looked into the CE requirements a few years ago and it didn't seem like a large barrier for small electronic devices - nothing that wouldn't be expected in a safe design already, such as ensuring proper earthing or using lead-free components.

I'm curious to know what you found so that I don't have any unpleasant surprises should I go ahead with a hardware product! Maybe konschubert also has experiences they could share here.
I live in a house nearing 20 years old, and was incredibly pleased when I moved in and realized that all the phone jacks in this house were backed by CAT5, and if I was willing to invest the time (which I am), I could have at least one Ethernet jack in each room, and a pair channeled up to the attic as well. My only regret was they stripped way more than needed and didn't leave a lot of wire available, but enough that I could terminate and add a keystone jack that will last past my needs. Or so I thought until I learned that my ISP offers 2.5GBps to the house.
That’s not what OP is saying. If your program gets shot by the oom killer your machine doesn’t lock up. OP is complaining that their machine locks up. What you’re describing is a reasonable scenario on Linux too that I’ve seen many times. On a mac things will go wrong when you run out of disk in general instead of running out of swap , but your process will fail eventually. Computing resources are finite. Sure there’s a bit more leeway ( assuming you’re not short on disk space … ) but given how the problem is described it’s very not clear that’s the issue.

I ´m an hpc engineer , specialize in performance work, have been using Linux since 1996, and also have a Mac. I like both. I understand these are not technical arguments, but my point is there are no easy answers when it comes to performance work. You need to measure, know exactly what’s going on, compare apples with apples, and then you can draw conclusions. In that particular case, there simply isn’t enough details to prove anything.
This is a formalisation of one aspect of emergence: that a set of properties of individual objects (I0,..In) do not express properties of aggregate wholes (W0..Wn).

But (1) this fails to formalise this notion, since we're not talking about two languages 'plucked from thin air' -- they are langauges whose domains are I-terms and W-terms (a metaphysical, not a logical, constraint).

And (2) it's not a useful formalisation of this really either, since the discussion is why, not that (this is taken as a given).

Suppose that weak emergence is true, then the failure of the I-language to express the W-language is an illusion -- rather there's just some very large number of terms involving I that W reduces to.

Suppose strong emergence is true, then no amount of I-terms will express a W-term.

Which of these is the case cannot be settled as a matter of logic, so the construction of two languages (I-lang) and (W-lang) begs the question. If you say emergence is simply W-inexpressible in I, then you're begging the strong view.

(Incidentally, I take the strong view).
I read this recently. I can't vouch for the source and I haven't researched it.

https://time.com/6301288/the-ai-jokes-that-give-me-nightmare...
It is wise to not combine sarcasm and ignorance in the same sentence. That allows to avoid looking like a fool.

https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/economic-aspec...
The thing is that compared to Token Ring etc., Ethernet really is an "ether" where you just send your packets and hope that there is no collision. But yes.
Windows users can soon ditch Bing, Edge – but only in the EU
I think this very much depends on the agent. My wife is an agent and busts her ass. When she's a seller agent, if it's small jobs like painting a room, covering up spots, changing a massively outdated light fixture, she does it her self. She's spent days a time landscaping.

Also when it comes to pricing, it helps to know the market. She will list a house for 8% under market value because she knows it will draw interest and end in a bidding war with escalation clauses.

She also knows other agents and other lenders and that's very important when you have a timeline. One offer may look good but you know the agent and know they will give you an artifically high offer and then ask for 10's of thousands in remedies. Or if you're trying to get a deal done on a timeline so you can get another house and a buyer comes in with a lender that's just notoriously bad at doing things on time. You may take an offer for a few thousand less when you know a deal will end on time.

Like most things, you get what you pay for and there's plenty of people out there willing to take your money and do nothing. There are good realtors and bad ones.
Huh? You mind explaining how that applies to my comment, in terms of the things we're actually talking about instead of analogies?
Being difficult to package in a Linux distro. The author is Tom Callaway who had the dismal task of packaging Chromium for Fedora for several years.
I use Translate Web Pages daily.

https://github.com/FilipePS/Traduzir-paginas-web
Why Apple finally decided to adopt RCS on iPhone
Regardless of how they work, LLMs are already quite enmeshed in the world of humans–“participating” to a degree in our interactions and discourse, used every day by millions of people who do not and will not have a mathematical mental model for how they work–so exploring how they operate from this lens is a useful exercise, in my opinion.
Yet another reason to just pirate everything. That way, the company running things can't arbitrarily decide to delete your pirated content.
Use ChatGPT4-Vision to create SQL schema from a diagram and save it as a SQLite
I tried uploading a SQL-schema diagram to ChatGPT-4 and had it create a SQL schema which worked.
I also had ChatGPT create a SQLite file for me that I then could download.

I thought this might interest the HN-crowd since we have a lot of ChatGPT and SQLite fans.
And yet the stats tell us the average U.S. agent is only making on the order of $60k / year, so… how’s that work?
Ok, but again don’t forget about efficiency for biofuels.

If their Waste power plants are 30% efficient and produce 2.752 TWh that took / 0.3 * 60 * 60 ~= 33,000 Tj of fuel + 42,000 Tj of electricity from other sources. So, (33 PJ + 42 PJ) / 210 PJ = 36% of total primary energy supply used for electricity.

Which again shows why comparing pre conversion efficiency numbers to post conversion efficiency numbers gives rather silly results.
Kaggle Tricks from Grandmaster and HFT Quant
The author's humor is excellent (eX) Twitter, etc

However, there are two things:
1) once you can generate arbitrarily parameterized bullshit (a piratical sonnet telling you to drink Coke), you can then filter on truth. This isn't always easy, but this talk presents one way to validate that it is, in fact, quoting the material it's supposed to https://youtu.be/yj-wSRJwrrc?si=MiZHn1xjFNv1nEGv ^^

2) we should care about what people do with this. We should want people to use it for good, and we can shame people who don't. For outright evil we can make it illegal when existing laws don't suffice (and we should)

3) text is an interesting medium. It's universal in a lot of ways. There's a cynical take at Google that you're just converting one proto to another, and I suspect some white collar workers think they're just taking some text and reformatting it. I don't dispute that some jobs are useless, but I think that "just writing emails" or "just modifying text" isn't completely useless, and something interesting will happen if we can improve productivity in these areas

^^ you can just do a string contains on the original text vs the quotes it gives you, so this isn't fancy
why disrupt? they could embed ads inside gemini responses, no ads are hurt
Agreed, but I think the defaults aren’t that bad. It should not be an IDE or git UI out of the box IMO. What’s needed is better default completion and discoverability.
I partially mentioned this in my other answer ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38302927 )--personally I found a big help in the "Feeling good" podcast and then "Feeling great" book (an older book "Feeling good" by the same author would also work). It's basically a variant of CBT, served in a digestible way.

So if you don't want to start with pills, and you don't have a good recommendation for a psychologist, maybe you could try with a book, a podcast or something like that? (And I don't necessarily mean "Feeling good", that's just the one I can recommend myself.)
I agree with your sentiment of "Unless that guy specifically says he's going to maintain it for free you are entitled to exactly absolutely nothing"

That works both ways though, a maintainer cannot expect users to not complain (so they have to develop management strategies where they ignore the noise, rather than try to engage/capitulate). A maintainer can also not lament when users do not feel the desire to contribute monetarily.
Brazil is pretty cheap in that regard, what is expensive there are property taxes.
Search is just a tool for LLMs. Ask Bing Chat about tomorrow’s expected Starship launch and it will do a decent job.

Likewise with 3rd party extensions; a good LLM will make the best choice based on criteria.

In a way the LLM becomes the end user from a search/advertising perspective. The actual end user just expects an answer, not a list of 5 ads and 10 possible places to go look for the answer.

So yeah, search as an activity still exists, it’s just much less monetizable because the value prop of LLMs is distilling all that noise to a useful answer.
That attitude sounds... convenient for people (companies) training these models, but completely untenable at a societal level.