skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I certainly didn't miss that, as I pointed out myself: I use naive datetimes in my codebases. Alot of them. And this change generates quite a bit of work for me.

But I'm okay with that.

The problem with de facto standards is: The fact that something became de facto standard, doesn't make it a better idea. The only thing it means is that it is now even harder to get rid of it.

> It's basically very late to be doing this.

Yes, it is. But not yet impossible. Languages and libraries that wait forever instead of ripping off the bandaid at some point, eventually become so crusted with such early problems, they become problems themselves.
Nope'n AI
Swimsuit or not, people can behave inappropriately. Let me put it this way, the couple were having some form of sex and thought they were being discreet. The acoustics betrayed them.
I lean this way too, but how ever it ends up I think this is plainly the better outcome for the potential of the space. OpenAI was on the trajectory to acting like any other company. Now it at least has the chance to act different from every other player. We are all benefactors of this chance at more diversity of motivations in this race.
How does it actually kill a person? When does it stop existing in boxes that require a continuous source of electricity and can’t survive water or fire?
Honest question:

Other than 1) Microsoft and 2) anyone building a product with the OpenAI api 3) OpenAI employees…

…is OpenAI crashing a burning a big deal?

This seems rather over hyped… everyone has an opinion, everyone cares because OpenAI has a high profile.

…but really, alternatives to chatGPT exist now, and most people will be, really… not affected by this in any meaningful degree.

Isn’t breaking the strangle hold on AI what everyone wanted with open source models last week?

Feels a lot like Twitter; people said it would crash and burn, but really, it’s just a bit rubbish now, and a bunch of other competitors have turned up.

…and competitive pressure is good right?

I predict: what happens will look a lot like what happened with Twitter.

Ultimately, most people will not be affected.

The people who care will leave.

New competitors will turn up.

Life goes on…
What is novel about driving engineering? It’s obvious he’s a highly involved CEO, and he actually understands and explains engineering decisions all the time. I hear all the time comments like “he doesn’t know anything about making rockets”. Tom Muller regularly has to comment on this noise. https://x.com/lrocket/status/1512919230689148929
Counter-opinion to mainstream here:
- backstabbing CEO and founder like that has very bad optics and karma
- given ceo was taking part in all hiring many employees will be more attached to him, oh btw he also knows pay and structure of all
- board knows they made themselves unhireable at any positions of managerial control/oversight. Rather than realize loss now they better kick the can forward
- headcount fallout will only be quantified 3-6 months after Sam sets new company, current assessment is premature
- for some some months company will follow momentum set by previous CEO
This is wild speculation, but I just noticed whenever I load the ChatGPT page, it will briefly say 'ChatGPT Alpha' before switching to ChatGPT 4.

Maybe they created the new model and there's something interesting about it?
Isn't keeping your finger on the pulse of the company an important part of the CEO's job though?
> This entire show will damage Altman and what remains of OpenAI equally

The only thing it damages about Altman is the credibility of him using his purported concern for AI safety as a PR lever for regulatory capture.
Yes that's my take. I think its good enough for most use cases but if you really wanted that random effect you might consider replacing the lines using something like an ipad and pencil or stylus.
It seems that MS spent 10 billion to become a minority shareholder in company controlled by a non-profit. They were warned, or maybe even Sam oversold the potential profitability of the investment.

Just as another perspective.
A short response to the reactions your comment received:

I'm not sure why so many took your comment to be negative. It looks like a plug for that church.

I was disappointed to learn the nature of the volunteer.gov sight. I don't know why I expected different from a .gov url. It is obviously useful to know who is behind an effort. So your post added useful information.

I have used justserve.org to find opportunities to serve in my community. Most of the activities I joined didn't seem to benefit the church in any way beyond a rising tide lifting all boats. I jumped in because they looked like worthwhile activities that would just take a couple hours of my time.

So I took your posting as a bit of good will for an organization committing resources to a website that lets people of any stripe find opportunities to help other people of any stripe.
Warner Bros. Discovery Closes GCN+
> I like science fiction too, but all of these potential scenarios seem so far removed from the low level realities of how these systems work.

Maybe they don't seem that to others? I mean, you're not really making an argument here. I also use GPT daily and I'm definitely worried. It seems to me that we're pretty close to a point where a system using GPT as a strategy generator can "close the loop" and generate its own training data on a short timeframe. At that point, all bets are off.
You mean discovered not created.
> they are completely unenforceable in California

California's non-compete laws don't cover "trade secrets", only your ability to use your expertise to pursue employment in your chosen field. In other words, if you're just a regular programmer, you can go work wherever you like or start a competing company. If you're a principal scientist or architect, you would be in danger of violating your contract. Anyone who went with Altman would presumably have deep inside knowledge of OpenAI's secret sauce and therefore be restricted.
Why a researcher would concern him or herself with management politics is beyond me? Particularly with a glorified sales man. Sounds like they aren't spending enough time actually working.
Did I say there was something wrong with either case? No. I said it was a signal. And it certainly can mean a lot by itself.

You can disagree. You can say only explicit non-emoji messages matter. That’s ok. We can agree to disagree.
> It's a problem that we haven't seen the existence of yet. It's like saying no one has solved the problem of alien invasions.

But if we're seeing the existence of an unaligned superintelligence, surely it's squarely too late to do something about it.
>anyone who quits to go with him surely do have airtight non-competes.

noncompetes are illegal in california
Some readers might be surprised to hear that in Austria, sports betting is legally not a form of gambling but a "game of skill".

I only know a handful of people who care for it, almost no-one at university did it and the only people I do know who did it were so obscenely good at it that they quit their jobs to pursue it full-time. (to alarming success - their algorithms earned more in a year than I would earn working full-time for 2 years)

The permissible and legal nature doesn't seem to hurt my country like it's hurting yours, make of this info what you will.
Elon Musk has been publicly unhappy with the direction Sam was taking, and seemed liked aligning with Ilya more. Would he have a hand in this?
Or he is not doing what the board wants, which is damaging.

If I am good at hacking computers, it does not mean that I should hack all of them and get to the jail.
How does generating queries work with other sources like CSV?
"I AM THE FORMER SPACE MINISTER OF ALPHA CENTAURI AND I NEED TO DEPOSIT 100M CENTAURI CREDITS IN A BANK ACCOUNT"..
Yes, after they find success. If this is an incubator, it would be helping artists to grow their career and for that they need pr, not studio management.
That’s a very reasonable argument.
Meta disbanded Responsible AI team: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=0xDEAFBEAD&next=3834...
An optional console view of the kernel boot log and driver configuration stages Etc. all the stuff that you have to find out after the fact by retrieving a log through one of the alternate boot methods like the recovery console. Assuming you can even get to one of those.

Why can't this just be something you can tab over to instead of that stupid blank startup screen with occasional disingenuous, ambiguous feel-good messages on it? Why do Windows crash dump and recovery screens have to be still largely stuck in the cryptic and unhelpfully threadbare state they were in 20 years ago when there is so much more memory available to store say, a scrollable stack trace or even a large text table of meaningful errors or exception states so you don't need to go Googling around for these or checking your notes at 4:08 am on a Monday?

The bane of anyone who's ever had to get a production system back up and running from a non-bootable state and you're sitting there staring at spinning circles and featureless colorblock screens sometimes for minutes on end, wondering just what the hell is going on.
> Apple Watch and Air pods are far and away leaders in their category,

By what metric? I prefer open hardware and modifiable software - these products are in no way leaders for me. Not to mention all the bluetooth issues my family and friends have had when trying to use them.
I don’t really understand what safety work is or entails here, given OpenAI will surely not be the only group to achieve AGI (assuming any group does.) What stops other companies from offering similar models with no (or just less) regard for safety/alignment, which may even be seen as a sort of competitive edge against other providers? Would the “safety work” being done or thought about somehow affect other eventual players in the market? Even regulation has the same challenges, but with nations instead of companies, and AFAIK that was more Sam’s domain than Ilya’s. It almost seems like acceleration for the sake of establishing a monopolistic presence in the market to prevent other players from viability, and then working in safety afterwards, would give a better chance of safety long-term… but that of course also seems very unrealistic. I think more broadly, if we’re concerned with the safety of humanity as a species we can’t think about the safety problem on the timescale of individual companies or people, or even governments. I do wonder how Ilya and team are thinking about this.
And as if researches in other nations like China will sit on their hands and do nothing. They are busy catching up but without any ethics boards.
ChatGPT-5?
> And yet no one is talking about "encryption safety

Okay, you are getting me off topic, but this is totally not the case. Hasn't governments been especially interesting in dealing with encryption lately? UK or EU (can't remember which) being most recently raising the pitchforks.

Anyway, the more important thing for me to point out is that AI is anticipated to possess exponential properties that technology like encryption does not have. Encryption is predictable while AI is not.

Edit: fixed typo
Nah, it's fine to be passionate about your work and relationships with your colleagues.

You just need to temper that before you start swearing oaths of fealty on twitter; because that's giving real Jim Jones vibes which isn't a good thing.
If you're looking for money you probably chose wrong going with a non-profit.
Nope, Poe was always building on OpenAI API and their GPTs. In fact Poe was one of the first companies to get access to GPT-4-32k context length a few months ago and they were the first to make it accessible to their users.
The blog is ironic a medium and a tumblr link, both of which completely obscure the content on load in landscape, with bullshit.

For the price of a single cold brew grande at Starbucks you can use lightsail or whatever the darling tiny VM service of HN is this week, and if you can't afford that, then put a patreon up or something.

Yes, a domain name can cost a bit, but you can get 5+ years at a discount some places, and it's cheaper than any driver's license I've had to renew, I believe.
I guess he would prefer is the existing incumbents got even larger, or if his competitor to ChatGPT (Poe) could capture significant fraction of the market.
>> There are alternative arrangements, but P.A.M. assures his reader that he has chosen “the most advantageous and fair” division, which will instantly resolve the Balkan question and all other tensions.

Haha.

This is why academics and idealists must be mocked without regard when they come up with idiotisms like this.

They did that in Africa: they created some arbitrary country lines without regards for the local tribes. The results? Constant political fighting and wars because you now forced two tribes which hated each other with a force of a thousand suns into the same new country.

So it wasn't "left" vs "right" but "Triba A" vs "Tribe B". No chance they'd get togather or that people would move from triba A to B because of some "political" opinion. It was more like blood revenge.

The belief that you could force two hating cultures into loving each other because you draw up some arbitrary lines on the map and say "now get well together, children" is [redacted] to say the least.
But if you really cared about that why would you be so opaque on everything. Usually people with strong conviction try to convince other people of that conviction. For a non profit that is supposedly acting in the interests of all mankind, they aren't actually telling us shit. Transparency is pretty much the first thing everybody does who actually cares about ethics and social responsibilities.
Let me ask you a question before answering.

Question: Do you plan to implement valuable enhancements over the coming years or do you believe this is feature complete?

> who prefer perpetual licenses, is this because of a perceived lower total cost? Or for some other reason?

For me, it's knowing that I'll have access to the software forever, but if I want to continue to get valuable enhancements, I keep paying. This is for me, the individual. When it's for a company, I truthfully care about that a lot less, next to nill, but care more about support, invoicing, SLAs, etc...

I have IntelliJ Ultimate at home and pay for it every year, but it gives me piece of mind knowing that if something happens, it's still "mine", but just doesn't get any new bells and whistles.

Every place I go to, guess what I develop with? IntelliJ. If they don't have it for me already, they will within the week.
While your post sounds like something that would be true, there are loads of examples of where companies have thrived under a clear vision from a specific person.

The example of Steve Jobs used in the above post is probably a prime example - Apple just wouldn’t be the company it is today without that period of his singular vision and drive.

Of course they struggled after losing him, but the current version of Apple that has lived with Jobs and lost him is probably better than the hypothetical version of Apple where he never returned.

Great teams are important, but great teams plus great leadership is better.
Public buses begin to break down, you start to see some clunkers brought back to service.

Shopping malls get less maintenance, supermarkets start turning off the air conditioning.

You start seeing some new products with clear packaging, almost as if they were packaged in a small room with no access to industrial packaging.

Generally that kind of stuff, not very surprising. The ketchup was surprising, wasn’t expecting to see an item from my childhood.

Turkey has some strong advantages over Bulgaria(there’s no change in the how economy works, it was just mismanaged), so it’s not that bad in the terms of impact on daily life but it’s still interesting to recognize patterns.

The most unfortunate one is the rise of organized crime. Bulgaria was a center of international crime rings throughout the 90’s. Turkey is currently in the same spot. There were many murders of mob bosses, just like in 90’s Bulgaria the organized crime leaders kill each other.

The impact of the organized crimes on daily life is that some sectors are taken over by gangs and some people who used to be nobodies become very rich and they show it. In response to that, the youngsters lose fate in education and they try to pursue similar path to become rich.

In the recent few months the new interior minister is conducting police raids on gangs, so maybe things can change.
You would be surprised what corporate optics can do to override real achievements. I have always been a champion of Cruise and I think what happened to them is downright suspicious.
Tip for builders: you can use the GPT APIs on Microsoft Azure. Managed reliably, nobody's quitting, no drama. Same APIs, just with better controls, global availability, and a very stable, reliable, and trustworthy provider.
(disclosure: I work at Azure, but this is just my own observation).
The future of locked down non private “personal” computing for sure… :(
There is one thing that sticks out:

Why didn't the board explain itself clearly?

There are times when saying anything publicly would be considered defamation and openining themselves to lawsuits, but it seems that they owe it to their own staff in plain words. They didn't explain the situation properly as per leaked internal announcements.
Does anyone have a non-paywall version of this? Or like excerpts from the article?
I know this is getting off-topic, but as a non-native speaker, I'm interested in hearing how a third data point would be needed to judge whether things differ "by an order of magnitude".
I was under the impression that "an order of magnitude" meant "one more digit", meaning very roughly a 10x difference. "a >= 10*b" can be determined without the need of a third data point. Is there some other meaning to the phrase I haven't come across?
It seems like you're misunderstanding selection bias.

It doesn't matter if it's large, unless the "very active on twitter" group is large enough to be the majority.

The point is that there may be (arguably very likely) a trait AI researchers active on Twitter have in common which differentiates them from the population therefore introducing bias.

It could be that the 30% (made up) of OpenAI researchers who are active on Twitter are startup/business/financially oriented and therefore align with Sam Altman. This doesn't say as much about the other 70% as you think.
Kara Swisher has some additional details: https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1726477828072382480
The GPT-4 pre-training research lead quit on Friday.
Luckier than you think! Having a door to shut isn't all that helpful when you have a crafty and desperate special needs kid.
This will be an interesting test to see how fast you can bootstrap GPT-4 level performance with unlimited funds and talent that already has deep knowledge of the internals. With the initial adoption of ChatGPT alongside Copilot, OpenAI's data moat of crawled data & RLHF is pretty vast. And that's not leaving the walled garden of OpenAI. You can simulate a lot of this using other off-the-shelf LLMs (see Alpaca) but nothing is a substitute for real world observed usage.

In a related note, has this meaningfully broken through to the mainstream yet? If a ChatGPT competitor comes out tomorrow that is just as good - but under a different brand - how many people will switch because it's Altman backed? I'll be curious to find out.
Sam Altman was fundraising in the Middle East for a new chip venture
> I think you need to check your math. There are 14 times more of these electric mopeds, etc than cars, but they only have 4x more impact than the EVs. So one EV displaces about 3.5x more carbon emissions than the mopeds.

This is not the case. The cited 4x in oil demand is just a part of the main problem (CO2 emissions). E-car carbon emissions over the lifecycle are still ~50% of fossil fuel cars, due to their large manufacturing co2 footprint and impact of the 10-100x higher electricity usage to power them. The battery sizes body masses are O(100x) bigger than e-bikes and energy usage per km O(10x) bigger.
Maybe not instantly. But there's a version where they don't agree with certain decisions and will now be more open to other opportunities.
Great summary of several key points from the article, yes! If you’d like to check out other avenues by which AI could lead to war, check out the papers linked to from this working group I’m a part of callers DISARM:SIMC4: https://simc4.org
Oh hey there he is, cool. I had a typo in my search, I think.

> That's not what a religious text is, that'd just be a blog post.

Yes, almost as if "Lesswrong is a community blog dedicated to refining the art of human rationality."

> It's the part where reading it causes you to join a cult group house polycule and donate all your money to stopping computers from becoming alive.

I don't think anybody either asked somebody to, or actually did, donate all their money. As to "joining a cult group house polycule", to my knowledge that's just SF. There's certainly nothing in the Sequences about how you have to join a cult group house polycule. To be honest, I consider all the people who joined cult group house polycules, whose existence I don't deny, to have a preexisting cult group house polycule situational condition. (Living in San Francisco, that is.)
He has a very interesting definition of "god" as a coherent multi-agent but at that level of generality any multicellular organism also qualifies as a god. Does he clarify during the interview what is the difference between abstract gods and concrete ones like multicellular organisms?
This would never get past regulators approval. Qualcomm has a massive share of the Android CPU market, putting the combined entity in a clear monopoly situation.

Companies the size of Apple are very limited in acquiring other large companies (see: Nvidia trying to buy ARM or Microsoft struggling to close on Activision)
The argument would be that by the time we see the problem it will be too late. We didn’t really anticipate the unreasonable effectiveness of transformers until people started scaling them, which happened very quickly.
> Why can't they, for instance, simply declare that school/offices open at 10am instead of 9am for six designated months every year instead of imposing this adjustment on the entire world.

Or, if you extrapolate this argument further, you could even wonder why the entire world can't run on a single timezone. Like, it can be UTC everywhere.

People in India can go to sleep at
Same here. I thought it's a React state management issue. But it could be GPT-5 Alpha.
Looks nice, but the pricing is steep, and the subscription model has drawbacks as other commenters have mentioned.

Perhaps consider a limited free version, say 1000 rows and 10 tables as a limit.

The positive side of this is that it will put it in the hands of many people, most of whom wouldn't have bought it anyway. This lets you get more feedback and find more bugs. A fraction of them will like it and tell their boss to buy the paid version. Do not provide support to free users, it will eat your time.
Where I live, waitstaff are paid the same minimum wage as every other worker, there's no tipped vs non-tipped dichotomy here. The way I see it, if all you did as waitstaff for me, was bring me glass of water, take my order using your tablet where you just tapped a few buttons, and then finally brought out the plate of food...I don't see how that deserves much consideration.

Sure, if I go to a nice restaurant, and the waiter chats me up, figures out what I like, suggests some dishes, does some non-standard stuff to make my experience at the restaurant memorable -- I will tip that. But if all you're doing as a waiter in my locale is tapping a few buttons on your POS handheld and then later bringing over a couple of plates, I don't see that as being worth much of a tip.